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Gunman Opens Fire At LAX
McGruber tips news that today at 9:30AM PST, a man removed an assault rifle from a bag at Los Angeles International Airport and opened fire. The shooter moved into the screening area, and then further into the terminal. One TSA agent was killed; roughly six more people were injured. The gunman was a ticketed passenger. (Early reports suggested he worked for the TSA — this does not seem to be the case.) Police engaged him in gunfire, and he's now in custody. His motive is unknown at this time.
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Doing gods work.
I just dumped all over your hops & drems! Why'd you even place them in my silverware drawer, anyway? That's where normal people dump! Thanks to your stupidity, your hops & drems are now... One With Dump!
Some TSA officer obviously handled his jibblets a little too roughly.
Just what we need, now we'll have a security checkpoint before our security checkpoint to prevent you from bringing a gun into the security checkpoint.
Turtles all the way down...
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
And, since the gunman used a rifle, all rifles will be banned or limited to 3-round magazines, and the homosexual liberals and their whining will once again set the direction of this state.
-- Ethanol-fueled
Totally.
I feel for the six people who were injured.
Ignorance is a choice
is one pissed-off TSA worker. No more f'in' around with those folks!
Whatever his deeper motive is, it's all too likely to be whitewashed.
A gunman armed with a high-powered rifle
What qualifies as high power now a days?
A leader of the union representing TSA officers deplored the incident.
i agree it is deplorable... and so is the TSA.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
How is this news for nerds?
Article summary sucks. It wasn't an assault rifle, it was just a rifle. Likely a self-loading rifle, from pictures looks to be a varmint-type AR-15.
My congratulations on the Police who did the difficult task of taking this man alive.
Just one to many gropes to this persons nether regions.
How many years have people been complaining that the only the thing the long lines at the screening areas do is make for a target rich environment? Attacking waiting points for security lines is a time honored practice in some parts of the world, the only surprising thing is that it took this long for it to occur here.
Security theater isn't just an inconvenience, it's a security risk in and of itself. I used to travel for a living and I have easily seen times in major airports where there were thousands of people queued up to go through the security checkpoints. It's a target rich environment where you can't miss for trying in some airports.
It's time to end security theater and demand real security.
a man removed an assault rifle from a bag at Los Angeles International Airport and opened fire.
Assault rifles are illegal in California; therefore this could never have happened!
That I'm right, and you don't like it, doesn't mean I'm a troll.
So he is shooting at people and has already killed one TSA officer. Why even try to take him alive? If there is ever a justification for shoot first and ask questions later, this is it. Now we'll have to pay for his room and board and legal fees for years to come.
That guy exercised the *shit* out of his second amendment rights. It's too bad Thomas Jefferson isn't around to high five him.
Whenever I think, "News for nerds" I'm not really thinking about shooting people.
DHS wants more funding, so they told this man "You do this or we kill everyone you know in the slowest, most painful way that no one will ever hear about"
"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
How long before Alex Jones starts claiming this was a false flag operation?
... he didn't use a phaser, go the fuck away.
I know that Istanbul (IST) has almost curbside chechpoints.
Having to pull my netbook just inside the door when leaving was not expected. After that, my status gets me into the "special handling" lines so very little extra hassles happen.
Still, security bottlenecks are a terrible waste - security theatre.
Well, if you need to identify something deplorable, may as well ask the experts.
In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
Murricans shooting eachother again
>News for Nerds
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An assault rifle, by definition is a machine gun. The gun used at LAX wasn't (as best we can tell from the available information). So the first sentence in the summary is inaccurate.
There's speculation, based on a photo on Twitter that the rifle is a Ruger Mini-14, in which case it may not have qualified as an "assault weapon" as defined by Federal Law. Under Feinstein's last [failed] assault weapon ban, the Ruger Mini-14 with a collapsible stock was banned, but the other Mini-14's were ok. It would depend on whether or not the stock folds/collapses.
Under California law, the pistol grip, and ability to accept a detachable magazine are sufficient to classify it as an "assault weapon."
Looks like high capacity magazines were used, although they may have had inserts to render them legal (i.e. limit them to 10 rounds). If they are large capacity and he owned them before 2000, they're legal. Otherwise they would only be legal if they were limited to 10 rounds (or fewer).
We can say with high confidence that a semi-automatic rifle was used. Under the previous Federal assault weapon ban, and the more recent failed Federal effort, this rifle may or may not have been considered an "assault weapon." Under California law this rifle is an assault weapon. The magazines may or may not have been legal.
There are many reasons why this fellow started to shoot people. Given how terrible service is on airlines these days in "cattle class", long lines, TSA agents who want to "touch my junk" (the pedophile who touched mine when I was a kid was enough), late flights, no-fly lists, and more horrors, it's no wonder that this guy goes nuts. He's probably a frequent flier on United.
It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
How did he have a gun in the airport?
Guns are banned there, the sign CLEARLY says so.
I mean, that's why pretty much nobody else was armed, right?
-Styopa
Apparently; Tory Belleci from MYTHBUSTERS was there, and called in to CNN not that long after the incident was being covered by the network. Not sure if other Mythbusters were there also as I couldn't hear the entire conversation (TV is on low at work).
So, could be an interesting next season???
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
Hey, the GOP has offered EXACTLY the same regarding Obamacare -- they want to get rid of it, but have offered no replacement, no alternative. Apparently, the only thing they want is for us to go back to the way things were, where you were denied coverage unless you were exceedingly healthy.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
... the NEW Intel on this? If they are tapping everything they sure aren't finding the signal in the noise.
Silence is a state of mime.
etc.
. . . so here's a security checkpoint for your security checkpoint.
Don't see that at Sharl Degoll or Heath Row do you, you Euro pinkio faggot's!!!!
Keep the whitehouse white, vote Trump & Palin 2020.
Apparently, Mythbusters' presenters Grant Imahara and Tory Belleci were inside LAX when this happened. From the Mythbusters FB page: "Grant and Tory were present in Terminal 3 at Los Angeles International Airport at the time of today's shooting incident. Both were en route to Delaware for the filming of 'Punkin Chunkin'. Grant and Tory are safe and being rerouted." /Stolzy
This is one case where Gun control laws would actually be highly beneficial, as nobody is allowed to bring a weapon into an airport, so the self defense argument falls apart.
Since we've had gun control laws here in AU, such events have become not-so-common
If you are trying to kill a lot of people, use bombs, not guns.
We have a CCW friendly Sheriff here in Mendoland, and he's on record as encouraging citizens to obtain their CCW permit.
Steps to Obtaining a CCW Permit
He's a smart guy encouraging citizens to obtain them, this County is rampant with criminals from all over the world who come here to grow Cannabis for money and they have guns and are basically crazy greedy people who will kill if encountered in the woods.
And because of those greedy bastards, we also get the violent idiots that read a High Times or see a news article or movie about Mendocino County Marijuana, so they come here to rob people at gun point via violent night time home invasions, and occasionally they murder people.
Then we have the Meth problem, same reason they come here to cook their crap, remote locations, cheap rents, privacy, and little law enforcement.
I personally don't have a gun anymore, because I live in town and we have a great Police Chief who makes sure his officers do their jobs properly and he's very responsive to citizen input.
CCW permits work in our County just fine, I call this responsible gun control.
This is one of those stories where non-Americans sit back and watch, gobsmacked, as American /.ers rant on about gun-ownership, utterly unaware of what barking lunatics they all sound like.
You guys have a massive cultural blind-spot when it comes to this stuff. It's incredible.
It's a cat and mouse game and unfortunately the TSA isn't going to win
Oh ye of little faith - the TSA can and will use their ineptness as justification that we need *more TSA*.
Expect it. The only valid purpose of the TSA is to grow until life is unbearable. And then grow further.
This madness will only stop once we see the TSA (and the corrupt politicians and soulless equipment suppliers who create/feed it) as the terrorists who are bent on destroying our freedoms.
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... just like Sandy Hooknose, the Aurora Theatre 'shootings', 9/11, the 'holocaust', etc.etc.
More Jew lies, designed to keep you as their slaves.
Why does this offend you so much? Most people consider AR-15s Assault rifles right or wrong. I suppose we should be glad he didn't have the full auto military version but I really don't get your outrage.
Blaming the news for reporting that he used an Assault rifle when most people likely agree the AR-15 falls within that common definition makes no sense. It's frankly unbelievable that you are more bothered out the term "Assault rifle" being mentioned vs the actual shooting. I'm sure the family of the murdered will be comforted by the fact it wasn't an "Assault" rifle and "only" an AR-15 that killed him.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
It doesn't seem like it's that unusual to be shot and live. You hear about people surviving multiple gunshot wounds all the time on the news.
People aren't quite as easy to kill as movies make it out to be (or for that matter quite as durable as they make action heroes look).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Glad they outlawed "assault rifles" in LA. Else this could have been a lot worse.
Attempting to compare the US to any other country when it comes to firearms is a totally ineffective discussion. Let's compare the US to Australia or the UK or Sweden or Germany or Honduras. In all of these examples you're trying to broach an entire country as a controlled experiment with 1 policy as if all other factors are the same...they are not.
Australia is an island. Australia does not happen to border Mexico. Australia at the time of the ban did not happen to have close to a 1:1 population to firearm ratio. No other country has the exact same demographic concerns that are present in the US.
- In the US, virtually any ban on any number or type of firearms will immediately create a huge black market due to saturation.
- When mass shootings happen, as inconvenient as the facts may be, they do always happen in locations with little hope of fighting back. It's just a fact.
- In the US, if you look at broad statistics about gun violence you actually find that over 50% of the homicides come from less than 12% of the population. I'm not going to spell it out for you, but you can feel free to look it up. Without that particular stat the US becomes one of the leaders in the world as far as least gun violence and does so with the highest per-capita gun ownership in the world.
- If you opt to think through things logically, any semi-automatic handgun with a standard 17 round mag (or higher) can easily inflict the level of damage that you see at most of these incidents and it's easier to carry more rounds.
We as a country tend to favor talking points and political stances over problem solving in virtually every case. If you actually look at the problem that you are trying to solve, in detail, the actual problem is response time. The only way to significantly reduce response time throughout the populace is to have more responders potentially available.
I have zero problem with a location opting to ban concealed weapons as long as they are responsible for securing the location and not simply putting up a sign. Government buildings have guards and metal detectors at the entrances. Everywhere else basically just has a sign, which is the problem.
Wait a moment that was a AR-15 and no 100+ deaths .. Hold the press they said it would kill 100 of people . that evil gun.
Another shooting in the USA ... yeah yeah whatever. I really don't care anymore. You guys shoot yourselves up and scream about the 2nd amendment to your hearts content, sure as the sun rises tommorrow there will be another shooting soon and you won't do shit to change it
One thing for sure kiddies - it ain't news for nerds or stuff that matters, if it was, something constructive would be done. After all this time we have to conclude you idiots like it this way.
Gov now has the reasons they need to impose even tighter security and restrictions on movement and personal freedom. How convenient!
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The problem in the USA is a social issue, not guns. There are many more asshats in the USA now than previous decades and something needs to be done about that. Other than the occasional random shooting, most of it is gang related and confined the liberal meccas of DC, Chicago, LA, NYC, Detroit, etc. The poor and uneducated are mostly to blame, so lets fix that. Personally, a law forbidding the idolization of gangstas (be it rap music, advertising or anything else) would go much farther to fix things.
There was a period of time where kids in the rifle club took their guns on the school bus so they could go shooting after school. No big deal. Now making a gun out of your fingers and saying "pew pew" as kids play at recess gets you expelled. 'Seems this heavy handed approach isn't working. Big Brother approaches never do.
Americans go on and on about the second amandment and how guns are necessary for protection against the state.
Sure. I might even buy that. Hell, I wouldn't actively opposive if they suddenly tried to make guns legal where I currently live (Europe).
What baffles me is the fundamental attitude to gun rights in general. That is: From my personal observations (and entirely anecdotal) it seems that the people most likely to use guns to defend their rights are also the people least willing to defend any infringements on the constitution EXCEPT the second amandment, making their argument circular.
I mean, are these people protesting the NSA? No...
Are they protesting against the TSA? Nope.
Are they protesting the bizarre American obscenity laws? Nopelinope.
The NRA is a pretty strong defender of the second amandment. Where do they stand on NSA, TSA and obscenity legislation? Where do they stand on abortion and freedom of religion?
Ban assault rifles and hand guns .... Simple ....
"Oh but why penilise law abiding citizens....?"
Even simpler change the law and they are no longer law abiding.
Clearly there must be a mistake in this story. Airports are "gun free" zones, therefore something like this CAN'T happen there right? It must all be a misunderstanding or it didn't really happen, cause clearly guns were banned in this area and criminals should respect the laws... ...or maybe, in reality, the argument that gun grabbers use (aka, ban them) clearly does not work, and criminals, by definition, ignore/break the laws, and by creating "gun free" zones, or banning guns, only effects actual law abiding citizens and not the criminals that are perpetrating these crimes.
Notice that none of these gun killing spree's happen at a target shooting range, where everyone there has a gun. Nor do they happen at other events where the crowd can be reasonably assumed to be armed, or where the shooter might face someone else who is armed. Every mass shooting in the last several years, and probably further back than that, has happened in so call "gun free" zones.
Columbine (school gun free zone)
Virginia Tech (school gun free zone)
Cathey Giffords (outsize federal building, gun free zone)
Colorado (gun-free Theater)
Ft. Hood (army base that is gun-free zone)
Navy shipyard (navy base that is gun-free zone)
Newtown, CT shooting (school gun free zone)
LAX Airport (airport gun free zone).
Clearly, you are more likely to get shot by a lunatic while in a "gun free" zone than you are at your local shooting range or other non gun-free zone.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
They have like 5 or 6 levels of security checkpoints. Each is guarded by several guys armed with M16 (or M4?). Outside of the airport there is an army of more than several dozens, fully armed. Also the location is isolated from urban area, surrounded by plains of several miles wide and there are only a few roads leading to the airport itself - all of the roads have checkpoints in the middle, each are protected by iron bars, and stationed by at least 3-4 guys armed with M16 and bomb detector of some sort.
It's perfect. If I have money I'd build my house to be like that.