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Largest and Most Intense Tropical Cyclone On Record Hits the Philippines
mrspoonsi writes "A monstrous storm has arisen in the Western Pacific. The storm, called 'Supter-Typhoon Haiyan', has become the year's most intense. It bore down on the central Philippines this morning, packing winds up to 195 mph (314 km/h), with gusts up to 235 mph (378 km/h), threatening massive damage and sending over 100,000 people into evacuation centers. (Animation of landfall.) Flood waters went as high as 10 feet. The secretary general of the Philippine National Red Cross said, 'About 90% of the infrastructure and establishments were heavily damaged.'"
global warming doesn't care about poor people
It's estimated central pressure is 899 mb but it could be lower. The lower the pressure the stronger the storm. Since 1987, there have been only four storms in the western Pacific with a central pressure below 899 mb (Megi in 2010, 885 mb; Flo in 1990 890 mb; Ruth in 1991 895 mb; and Yuri in 1991 895 mb)
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Manbearpig in 5...4...3...
Drive more cars!
...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
My god, there is bad weather on the earth, *gasp* who would have thought!
In the Philippines they call it Yolanda. Why does it have two different names?
Some people die at 25 and aren't buried until 75. -Benjamin Franklin
Lets all wrap flags around our dicks and wave them.
Higher ocean temperatures cause stronger storms.
It's important to the oil companies that pay me to ignore science that I tell you -
This is not global warming.
It's a man, or a pig. Or a man-bear-pig.
This off-the-charts definitely not caused by the coal power plants which power your house, and power the Chinese factories that build your crap.
I imagine the suffering from this storm will be severe and can only hope that the help was mobilized before the storm struck. These storm victims are going to need everything to survive. Food, housing and medical care as well as tools and livestock to start over could save countless lives. Imagine a storm that severe striking Miami or New York.
The Saffir scale tops out Level 5, > 157 mph. But each level increases about 20-25 mph. It is essentially a 500 mile wide tornado.
never heard of one of those.. must be new.
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Everybody knows wind is cold.
Remember kids, this is weather, not climate, and just natural a oscillation of the normal pattern.
We sure couldn't afford to have this sort of shit every year.
They feared that it could be used to suppress protest or support unpopular rule.
Surely, this storm was caused by Global Warming!
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
This would never have happened had the greedy American capitalists not occupied these peaceful islands. Even now people are shorter, lighter are more likely to be blown away in the very storms that the US army all but guaranteed would happen. Only a rebuilding of America under Libertarian ideals will allow the US to limit its military operations to defence as enumerated in THE CONSTITUTION.
~~ The tree of liberty must be fertilized with the blood of tyrants. ~~ Thomas Madison
Clearly China's fault.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charo
I'm no meteorologist but those wind speeds would make this an F4 tornado. We get tornadoes here in the middle of North America, but they don't last for days. Good luck to everybody there.
You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. -- Super Chicken
I'm assuming that by "on record" you mean a roughly 100 or perhaps (let's be generous) a 500 year period during which Western sailors might have known the area and kept logs. The 500 years is roughly 1/10th of human history, which is 0.005 of a million years during which human-like species roamed the planet. OK, human-like species were around longer than that; but let's keep it simple. Move the decimal again and you get into an era with no humans, but plenty of dinosaurs and shit. That's be the shitaceous era, which encompasses several other epochs. So. Our recorded history covers 0.0005 times that. I suppose it wouldn't be fair to go back to when the Earth was a molten glob and the proto-Moon collided with it. Now that's one helluva typhoon.
That US bases there. Plenty of extra help.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
I'm sure that the relief agencies would be happy to take a donation. I think these are correct, but double check for yourself. I apologize for not including everybody, please don't let that stop you from making a donation.
American Red Cross
British Red Cross
Canadian Red Cross
Australian Red Cross
New Zealand Red Cross
Irish Red Cross
Deutsches Rotes Kreuz
Croix-Rouge Francaise
Röda Korset
Røde Kors
Røde Kors
Rode Kruis
Schweizerisches Rotes Kreuz
Croce Rossa Italiana
Cruz Roja Española
Polski Czerwony Krzyz
Salvation Army donations
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Ever watched TV?
Ever noticed that EVERY SINGLE NEWS segment ends with a "look at the weather".
Weather.
News.
You wouldn't believe it, would you.
But winds of 195MPH and up would decimate most of the eastern coast of the U.S. that's insane.
I am sure this means that the US government will be sending money and equipment their way at the expense of the US taxpayer.
A magnitude 7.1 earthquake struck the PI a few weeks ago which cause widespread damage to buildings and infrastructure. Bridges collapsed and many roads are still impassible. The earthquake and hundreds of strong aftershocks serve to intensify the effects of this storm.
Saying "but that would be extremely silly" is the extremely silly part.
Well, maybe saying this: "the SUV you almost certainly drive." tops it in crass stupidity, but it's a close run thing.
Here you go: CO2 isn't only a product of SUVs.
And that temperature? 33C of it is from the greenhouse gasses that blanket the earth, the single largest contributor that has no control to remove on a century to millenia timescale is CO2, the other (H2O) raining out within weeks and therefore not self-sustaining on even monthly scales.
So what do YOU think happens to temperatures when the CO2 is increased 40%?
H2O increases.
And that's the top two of the GHGs that caused that 33C warming.
So lets go along to this PDO. Thought question (I realise you're not equipped to actually think, but what the hell): if the earth were 50C colder, then how much would the same magnitude shift in the temperature of these waters that we currently get with PDO affect the climate?
Here's a hint: fuck all.
Because an oscillation doesn't cause hurricanes.
What DOES cause hurricanes?
Sea surface temperature is a big one.
And 33C of that temperature is due to GHGs that we've just upped one by 40%, increasing the effect of the other top contributor.
So what is that CO2 from your SUV doing that's so special it doesn't work like any other CO2 molecule?
What is with Soulskill's postings? Does he or she bother to check that the headline is consistent with the facts?
The linked article tells us that Typhoon Tip was the largest most intense storm. This storm is the largest and intense since Tip. Big difference.
this is just to test the the new nuke reactors in vietnam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Vietnam
How about using metric system (ISO standard)?
Most Intense Tropical Cyclone
Philippines
Will there be a backlog for hiring new cleaning ladies and dangerously illiterate nurses?
Typhoon Ida (1958) had sustained winds of 200mph. That means that the energy in its winds was about 5% greater than the energy in the 195mph winds of Typhoon Haiyan (squaring speed to get approximate wind energy).
...hopefully they'll leave the cholera at home this time.
Ahhh, let the karma roll in...
And the results were pretty bad. I think that Halsey steered right into it.
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Oh, of course, I forgot - this isn't Slashdot any more, it's the 'Man made global warming daily propaganda report'.
Are we supposed to infer that this has something to do with 'man made global warming', just because it's about weather and is on Slashdot? Whoops - I meant to say 'climate change', of course...
honestly, Obama's like the worst socialist ever .
I'm no meteorologist but those wind speeds would make this an F4 tornado. We get tornadoes here in the middle of North America, but they don't last for days. Good luck to everybody there.
Very strong tropical cyclones like this one do contain very high sustained winds equivalent to what you would find in a significant (F3 or higher) tornado, which is why the NWS occasionally issues blanket tornado warnings for areas lying in the path of the most intense and dangerous part of a hurricane's eyewall, which is usually the NE quadrant. The practice is controversial, though, and has been inconsistently applied. Keep in mind that wind speed isn't everything when it comes to how much damage is done by a storm, in a tornado there are sudden shifts in pressure and wind direction that you wouldn't necessarily find in a cyclone's eyewall, while the winds from a cyclone generally last a lot longer and of course with a cyclone you also have storm surge and flooding to worry about. Both types of storm are incredibly dangerous, but a structure that might survive the one could still be totally wiped out by the other, and vice versa, even if the wind speeds involved were pretty much the same.
"... called 'Supter-Typhoon Haiyan'" yes, apparently, but _meant_ to be called 'Super-Typhoon Haiyan.' One typo should not be allowed to propagate so far across the internet. Next thing people will be misspelling 'colour' everywhere, or something equally ludicrous.
I always thought it was more like a blast furnace. Riding through the Sacramento Valley in summer, leathers zipped and gauntlets on, I used to marvel at the fools in shorts and shirtsleeves, and wonder how they survived at all. By around 160kph every leak or gap in my protection felt as if it was on fire.
They feared that it could be used to suppress protest or support unpopular rule.
I made a bit of a joke the other day, but I hope that the DOD is pushing a large number of ppl into there to help. Like Haiti, Philippines has a long and complicated history with the USA, and we need to help.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.