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Porn-Surfing Execs Infecting Corporate Networks With Malware

wiredmikey writes "According to a recent survey of malware analysts at U.S. enterprises, 40% of the time a device used by a member the senior leadership team became infected with malware was due to executives visiting a pornographic website. The study, from ThreatTrack Security, also found that nearly six in 10 of the malware analysts have investigated or addressed a data breach that was never disclosed by their company. When asked to identify the most difficult aspects of defending their companies' networks from advanced malware, 67% said the complexity of malware is a chief factor; 67% said the volume of malware attacks; and 58% cited the ineffectiveness of anti-malware solutions."

151 comments

  1. Very disappointing article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It doesn't even include any of the URLs to go to!

    1. Re:Very disappointing article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Execs always demand administrative rights to their machine... No surprise!

    2. Re:Very disappointing article. by durrr · · Score: 1, Funny

      " 67% said the complexity of malware is a chief factor; 67% said the volume of malware attacks; and 58% cited the ineffectiveness of anti-malware solutions."

      And the remaining 40% said these numbers don't add upp.

    3. Re:Very disappointing article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Check all those that apply" with 20 options could render those numbers.

      [ ] I like boobs
      [ ] I have a pet goat
      [ ] I live with my mother
      [ ] I live in the basement

    4. Re:Very disappointing article. by Ozymandias_KoK · · Score: 1

      It's fairly obvious that those are the percentages of people who said those items were problems. It does not say that they, individually, were the worst problem.

  2. malware and porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    last time i saw an article about that on /. it was stating how most porn sites have very little malware and most malware comes from stupid wholesome crape like smileys and bars and other retarded crap the mouth breathers think they need to install

    1. Re:malware and porn by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 5, Funny

      executives must be in to weirder stuff than most mouth breathers

    2. Re:malware and porn by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You don't think executives don't NEED those super important "power bars", do you?

      And of course execs have admin privs on their PC. They don't know what to do with it, they don't know why they got it, but don't you dare even suggesting taking it from him!

      Even as the CISO you get shouted down at the management meeting when you suggest something outrageous like that. What cheek! Those dumb techdroids having higher privileges on his PC than the CEO!

      Yeah, we had a good laugh.

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    3. Re:malware and porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most CEOs don't even have all the keys to the factories and plants, and when they need access for whatever reason, they go in with someone who knows what they are doing- just in case they screw something up - press the wrong button etc.

      But when it comes to IT - they just love logging in with an account with full domain admin privileges (you could create a different account for them to use if they ever need it - which could be rarely, but no, it has to be their main account).

    4. Re:malware and porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How weird when I hit the link to the article, the site tried to download malware. Wonder how they ever thought this would get by the /. crowd.

    5. Re:malware and porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      most porn sites have very little malware

      I'd buy your average pay to access porn site would have as much malware as any other business site. But what about those "free" porn sites that do everything in their power to monetize your need to fap cheaply? Up to and including the classic "please install this program to get hours of xxx stuff?" Then again, an exec who makes a high 5 figure or six figure salary wouldn't resort to such sites. Still, I remain pessimistic. One should never underestimate humanity's stupidity, and desire not to have porn show up on their credit card bills after all.

    6. Re:malware and porn by jc42 · · Score: 1

      And of course execs have admin privs on their PC. They don't know what to do with it, they don't know why they got it, but don't you dare even suggesting taking it from him!

      Reminds me of the old observation that you can easily determine someone's software expertise from the log data showing how often they run with elevated (root, admin, whatever) privileges: The two quantities are inversely related.

      I recall once impressing some people at a company that I was contracting for, when at a meeting I was asked if I needed root privileges on the machines I was using for testing. I shrugged, and said I didn't think so. When they looked puzzled, I just said that in the few cases I'd needed root privileges, I'd got them for the few minutes that I needed by using the "jcroot" account that I'd created. The IT guys got nervous looks on their faces, implying that they didn't know that was possible; the other developers were just grinning. Some time later, several IT guys showed up and wanted to know how I did it. I showed them how to use one of the exploits that hadn't been fixed on their machines. A few weeks later, they did an "upgrade" that blocked that exploit (but they didn't disable my root account). They didn't ask how many others I knew of. Maybe some of their other developers told them about a few more eventually.

      I also spent a bit of time explaining that I've learned it isn't a good idea to work with more privilege than I need. The builtin security stuff is pretty good at preventing you from making dumb "typo" type mistakes that take time to fix. Yeah, this is a bit simplistic, but it's something that they could understand, and might have persuaded a few of them that they didn't need to run routinely as at admin level. Maybe, but probably not.

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  3. Safe Surfing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The obvious solution is for corporation to provide safe porn on their internal networks. What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Re:Safe Surfing by TWX · · Score: 4, Funny

      The obvious solution is for corporation to provide safe porn on their internal networks. What could possibly go wrong?

      I shudder to think of how this'll impact the BYOD policy...

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    2. Re:Safe Surfing by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      I am more afraid of the sexual harassment problems looming over our heads with the BYOD crap.

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    3. Re: Safe Surfing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You jest but the threat is real. We have a slew of android users who had their phone done over.

      It used to be that we would tell users "don't click that link. " where now web sites like yieldmanager throw apk files at them.. which download automatically .. they install... and we have to clean their phone and explain that their phone is a small pc. Sigh. The 90's all over again.
      Those who do not learn from the past.

    4. Re:Safe Surfing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BYOP?

    5. Re: Safe Surfing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android doesn't automatically download APK files, at least not without changing the browser preferences. No Android has a far stupider system than that. It pops up a dialog that says the website provides an app and encourages the user to download it.

      No what your talking about is Click Next Syndrome. We need to start cracking down on people with this syndrome. No more slaps on the wrist or verbal warnings. They need real incentive to stop being fucking morons.

    6. Re:Safe Surfing by darkwing_bmf · · Score: 1

      When I went to college the network admin (who also happened to be an instructor for one of my classes) told us the university could save a lot on network costs if it would just set up internal porn server mirrors. Unfortunately the board of regents didn't like that idea.

  4. Occam's Razor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The razor hard at work.

    1. Re: Occam's Razor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So execs surf porn. And that makes them different ... how?

    2. Re: Occam's Razor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Government Regulations/Sexual Harresment!

    3. Re: Occam's Razor by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They don't get fired for it.

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    4. Re: Occam's Razor by Monoman · · Score: 1

      Besides not getting and having access to more sensitive data (if they get own3d). So they are exactly the same as all of the other employees except that their totally different. ;-)

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  5. It's good to be the king. by themushroom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    -- Mel Brooks, "History of the World pt 1"

    1. Re:It's good to be the king. by DavidClarkeHR · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's good to be the king. -- Mel Brooks, "History of the World pt 1"

      Agreed. I'm one of the fortunate ones - my boss actually follows the rules, but I've worked in places where the boss is exempt from basic network security. One was a small business where the boss 'pays the bills', so he got to 'make the rules'.

      When his customer database was deleted he fired his IT guy in a fit of anger. He lost a lot of money in a wrongful dismissal settlement, and lost all of his business. It might have been the IT guy who did it - but the lawyers obviously felt that 'I don't need a slow virus scanner' was more likely the cause. Or at least, reasonable doubt.

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    2. Re:It's good to be the king. by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      How fucked up was the IT infrastructure that one douche bag running windows without a virus scanner managed to nuke a database and all the offsite backups?

      Must have been one hell of a virus.

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    3. Re:It's good to be the king. by mysidia · · Score: 1

      'I don't need a slow virus scanner' was more likely the cause.

      Wait... that's a true statement. Nobody needs a slow virus scanner. Go get an application whitelisting solution such as Bitlocker, Lumension, or Bit9.

      The slowest/most user-annoying of signature-based av such as Mcafee or Symantec have piss-poor detection rates anyways ---- I find possibly 90% of scans of malware yield false negatives (failure to detect). Often, virus signatures will never recognize the malware variant you happened to have gotten, OR.... by the time they're updated; the malware is still there, but no longer detectable.

      Agreed. I'm one of the fortunate ones - my boss actually follows the rules, but I've worked in places where the boss is exempt from basic network security. One was a small business where the boss 'pays the bills', so he got to 'make the rules'.

      This is when you need to have a discussion with that 'boss'.

      Come pre-armed with material to show him/her how he/she is the primary target of hackers, and how extra paranoid security for his/her workstations, is necessary for the organization's success in the long run, and help ensure the computers run smoothly.

      Including plans for super hard drive encryption, backups, and software restriction policies, to ensure that only software that's been investigated, will be able to run.

    4. Re:It's good to be the king. by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Why do we need backups, we have it all here, right? So why do you want to have it there, too? Do you want to steal our customers?"

      I was actually asked that once.

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    5. Re:It's good to be the king. by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      While I don't doubt you, to be honest I've never ran across any business that didn't value data protection. Then again, I do work for a MSP (Managed Service Provider) that works with 50+ SMBs on a yearly bases. About a quarter of those are monthly regulars. In any case, all of them prefer having a local D2D copy of the server with incremental backups ran nightly and an off-site replica of core user share data via MozyPro. Regardless of the product and methodology, every single client of ours values backups. If it's not smash-n-grab thieves, it's hurricane season, bursting pipes, or general hardware failure that can literally fold a company. Honestly and sincerely, any competent business owner will understand the value of backups if you explain how it will protect his business. They could give two shits about the technology behind it; rather what will it do to protect his/her company! Frame the discussion around that and you will be prompted with a "shut the hell up and take my money" look of horror!!!

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    6. Re:It's good to be the king. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a small business, so they probably had no offsite backups, and the douchebag boss almost certainly had admin rights to the entire network (because it's "his") as well as no virus scanner.

      It's more likely to have been some script kiddie logged in through whatever the favourite remote access exploit was at the time than a virus, but the principle that lack of a virus (or general malware) scanner was the cause sounds good to me.

    7. Re:It's good to be the king. by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      I have had alot of success convincing VP's who insist on local admin rights to use a local admin account. I create it on their machine and walk them through how to use it. UAC makes it pretty simple.
      *Tip, to authenticate to a local account on a domain computer,use '.\' as in '.\jsmith'

    8. Re:It's good to be the king. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I should maybe mention that the statement above is about 25 years old and, as many here can imagine, the business in question does not exist anymore. It wasn't a data loss problem that fell them, though. They were incompetent in other areas too. :)

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  6. Solution by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and 58% cited the ineffectiveness of anti-malware solutions."

    So the majority of experts agree the existing solutions are ineffective. And yet the solution remains the same: Buy more of it.

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    1. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When god gives you lemons you FIND A NEW GOD

      Or just isolate risky users and computers in an "executive" DMZ

      Give 'em a fax/printer and remote access to sharepoint (or whatever the fuck) but otherwise isolate them in a super happy ball pit you can re-image at the drop of a hat

    2. Re:Solution by muphin · · Score: 1

      Have you EVER tried to get time on execs machine? good luck, let alone removing their access to their network drives... yeah you will be out of a job.. they would say, your our IT you fix it.

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    3. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      I'd rather be out of the job than stuck between "I need access to EVERYTHING for no goddamn reason" and "ME COMPOOTER IS BOKE-BOKE AGAIN FIX IT A+ PRIORITY ONE"

    4. Re:Solution by TWX · · Score: 1

      Why would you ever have to touch their computer? Put up a sacrificial server with a virtual host running Samba, and modify their login script and group to have them interface to this virtual host. Have something on the virtual host analyze and sanitize their crap, and physically isolate their network services so that they're not on the same network as everyone else. Give them their porn and keep them off of the corporate network.

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    5. Re:Solution by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd rather be out of the job than stuck between "I need access to EVERYTHING for no goddamn reason" and "ME COMPOOTER IS BOKE-BOKE AGAIN FIX IT A+ PRIORITY ONE"

      Ah. The naitivity of youth. So refreshing. And yet they wonder why nobody hires them.

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    6. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      30+ years infrastructure teaches you not to give power to dumb people; be they execs or network engineers...

    7. Re:Solution by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      This is your bank. You gonna pay me or what!

      You have until the end of the month to come up with the money or I will repo your car.

      Maybe you shouldn't of told that guy who paid your bills to fuck himself when he demanded it high priority? Not my problem as I get your car and will auction it either way at the end of the month if I do not have my money etc.

    8. Re:Solution by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      Why would you ever have to touch their computer? Put up a sacrificial server with a virtual host running Samba, and modify their login script and group to have them interface to this virtual host. Have something on the virtual host analyze and sanitize their crap, and physically isolate their network services so that they're not on the same network as everyone else. Give them their porn and keep them off of the corporate network.

      Right because executives never need to share files with the rest of the teams in the company. It is not like they have important things to do all day or anything

    9. Re:Solution by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      What a truly ignorant statement. 96% of infections are covered according to the experts. Just because 4% get in doesn't mean it is 100% ineffective and useless. I see many malware programs all the time from people who say they are clean.

      It is not 10 years ago where an infection slows it down. Today it is quiet and quick on purpose as your bank account numbers and credit card info gets sent to Russia quietly.

    10. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Until you point out to the CFO how much those who are violating corporate policy are costing the company. Shit gets straightened out right quick then.

    11. Re:Solution by mysidia · · Score: 1

      So the majority of experts agree the existing solutions are ineffective. And yet the solution remains the same: Buy more of it.

      Was the research study funded by security companies, that may be involved some way in the antimalware business?

    12. Re:Solution by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Does Antivirus software get everything? Hell no. Is it useless because of it? No, far from it.

      The world is not black and white and neither is security. I mean, by the same logic you could say that anti-drug laws didn't work, so let's abolish them. Police didn't arrest every murderer out there, away with it. And since doctors fail at saving every patient, shut down those hospitals.

      Would that be stupid? Of course it would be. No, anti malware programs do not catch everything. But even the worst of them (interestingly named after its currently quite mobile founder) finds about 95% of the threats. Yes, that means that one out of 20 attacks could bet past it. But the other 19 do not!

      Not to mention that the best security system is powerless against user stupidity. I think I pull that link every time we're discussing this, but it just was true, is true and probably will be true forever until I find a way to kill clickmonkeys via internet: Given a choice between dancing pigs and security, users will pick dancing pigs every time. There is exactly NO way how you can secure a system against a clickmonkey that has admin privs. And those idiotic execs do! Not that they need them or know how to wield them, but they want that "in control" feeling. Needed or not.

      The very LAST thing I want is any kind of privileges beyond the bare minimum to do my job. Simple reason: Credible deniability. What I could not do, I most certainly did not do. Your database is missing? Could not have been me, I can only enter data but I can't delete or edit anything. Go look elsewhere for your culprit.

      But back on topic. Statistic is a multi-layer system. Relying on only one part of security is simply dumb. There is no such thing as 100% security. It's a myth. Like 100% uptime. You can lower the chance for a security breach, with technology (firewalls, antivirus), with policies (least privileges, secure processes) and a few other things. And yes, hence the solution to security is more security. Well, within reason and at sensible points, of course, but the solution can't be "can't stop it, so why bother trying?"

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    13. Re:Solution by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      Where is that server going to come from? Thin air? Where is the time going to come from to implement that? Your free time. How about when it doesn't work so well and there is a sales meeting in 3 minutes?

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    14. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course buy more of it - hey, 58% + 58% = 116%, doesn't it?????

    15. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet the solution remains the same: Buy more of it.

      Says who? The guy with the beard never tells you stuff like that.

    16. Re:Solution by triffid_98 · · Score: 2

      No, anti malware programs do not catch everything. But even the worst of them (interestingly named after its currently quite mobile founder) finds about 95% of the threats. Yes, that means that one out of 20 attacks could bet past it. But the other 19 do not!

      If my own corporate experience with antivirus/antimalware tools is any indication they actually find 120% of the threats.

      How do they do that you say? By flagging legitimate files as malware and trojans. It's a very real problem for small software development houses. Even if you can get your application whitelisted by the offending scanners (not easy), chances are the next revision of your build will get flagged the same way.

      That doesn't mean that they won't let malware through, it just means that they use fairly conservative heuristics in addition to file signatures. It's definitely possible to fool them.

    17. Re:Solution by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      When kept updated, antivirus software should do a pretty good job keeping all the older, known attacks out of the door. That leaves only a (relative small) number of new attacks that can affect you.

      Combine that with some proper lockdown of the computer (not running as admin/root should help a lot, for example) and you can keep many of those newer attacks at bay as well.

    18. Re:Solution by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      the next rev will fix your problem...

    19. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The theory goes like this: Anti-malware solutions are maybe only 42% effective, so two of them would be 84% effective, and three of them would be 126% effective, so buy three and you are good to go.

    20. Re:Solution by ruir · · Score: 1

      It doesn't work. As you say, it keeps last year flu out of the door, but you will get next year flu, unless by luck some had caught them earlier on, and you are paying a fee. I can't get how protection virus model still run basically with string matching which is quite easy to defeat. The inherent flaws that they explore are due to Microsoft still maintaining an operation system model defective by design and not killling compatibility for good with the past, and locking it down more. The AV companies also don't have an incentive to sell an efficient product out of the door, because a too good product that prevents unknown infections would kill their business model. And to be fair, lets spell out things well, and start putting in all this AV adverts disguised as news the Windows word instead of PCs. To finish, let me say it is not a normal situation on this day and age, to still be running a software layer to match the binaries for known-strings, despite the heuristics and flashy new algorithms involved.

    21. Re:Solution by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      they would say, your our IT you fix it.

      Twenty years ago I'd have not had a clue what you were trying to say, but slashdot helps me. I hope English is a second language for you. If so, know that "your" is a possessive; "your house is our house" so you can see why "your our" is confusing to someone literate in English. You're looking for "you're", a contraction for "you are".

      If English is your first language, get your GED.

      </education>

    22. Re:Solution by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      You bring back memories of slashdot's badanalogyguy.

      I mean, by the same logic you could say that anti-drug laws didn't work, so let's abolish them.

      That would only be a good analogy if antivirus actually caused more infections than they stopped. The societal ills blamed on drugs are actually caused by the laws against them.

      That said, the rest of your argument is logical.

    23. Re:Solution by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, considering that some false positives can actually cause more havoc than some infections...

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    24. Re:Solution by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Of course buy more of it - hey, 58% + 58% = 116%, doesn't it?????

      Yeah, I think you've got it. And it makes perfect sense to the "team leaders" who expect their employees to "give 110%".

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  7. So, in other words, they violate basic IT policy by generic_screenname · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The top threats listed in TFA are all common-sense things to avoid with work machines. (Visiting porn sites, letting family members use equipment, installing malicious mobile apps, and falling for phishing emails.) There is a reason us IT folks tell people not to do these things at work.

  8. Flash Update Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It gets 'em every time.

    1. Re:Flash Update Scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, when even Google tells people that their software needs to be updated, without being asked, then of course people will eventually believe that a web site is an acceptable channel for that kind of information. You can tell people that they should never heed the warnings of a web site as often as you like: Your authority does not come close to Google's clout. It is like banks embedding links in their emails: When the good guys make themselves look like the fraudsters, then the fraudsters start looking legitimate.

  9. "in bed" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I read these stories on slashdot about some random drive by viruses/malware these users are picking up it always reminds me of the joke where you add "in bed" to the end of a sentence because all these stores are for windows and not linux and probabaly not apple either.

    So if the submitter won't doi it, or the slashdot editors won't do it, the next time you read about malware infecting a bunch of users computers don't forget to add "in windows" to the end.

    1. Re:"in bed" by internetcommie · · Score: 1

      Of course, the pr0n-surfing executives who cause the malware infestation are exactly the same executives who decided the company will not switch to Linux. Probably because they're afraid there's fewer boobies to look at there? ;-)

    2. Re:"in bed" by jc42 · · Score: 1

      So if the submitter won't doi it, or the slashdot editors won't do it, the next time you read about malware infecting a bunch of users computers don't forget to add "in windows" to the end.

      It similar to the advice I ran across years ago: If any news story talks about problems with "computers", you should always add "running MS Windows". If it were any other kind of computer, they would have told you its brand name. Since then, I've been looking for exceptions, where a computer problem bad enough to make the news was on machines using non-MS software. So far the only cases I've run across have always mentioned the brand or the OS name. I keep expecting exceptions, and maybe some day I'll spot one.

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  10. The real problem by shentino · · Score: 1

    Is executives trying to claim sovereign immunity to IT regulations.

    I doubt those of lower rank would be given anything but a pink slip if they were caught doing the same thing.

    1. Re:The real problem by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Pretty much this.

      One of the core reasons this problem exists in the first place is that execs insist that the rules don't apply to them. Oh sure, we have insanely tight corporate rules concerning computer usage... but of course not for C-Levels, certainly not. And their secretaries (who are collectively ignorant enough to be a security crisis all by themselves) have to be exempt, too. And while we're at it, we not only need to bypass the firewall entirely but we also need administrative privileges on our machines.

      Trying to explain to them that it is a security nightmare what they're asking for doesn't help at all. This isn't about rational, logical reasons. It's purely about entitlement. Rules only apply to the plebs beneath me, but never to me. And when (not if, when) the crap backfires eventually, we'll certainly find some scapegoat to sacrifice.

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    2. Re:The real problem by mysidia · · Score: 2

      Is executives trying to claim sovereign immunity to IT regulations.

      Perhaps.... but this is one of the reasons IT security cannot be built from the bottom up.

      IT security inherently requires management buy-in, and management has to be made to understand about leadership by example. They must be sold on it. If they themselves can't adhere to it, then they sure aren't sold on it! How could they expect their hired help to be sold on it, if they don't even agree with it?

      If the manager or their family don't follow the same rules, then they are teaching other people not to follow the rules either.

      Just like the family grocery store, that lets the owner's wife do her shopping, and take the goods out the back door without having to pay retail price.

      The cost to the store is much higher than the price of the goods; it includes the opportunity cost, lost chances to make up for the cost, lost profit.

      Customers will see it. Employees will see it. It will lead to more losses.

      It will instill in the manager, their family, and those around them, an attitude that will destroy the business.

  11. Note that Slashdot can be just as dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember, the spooks don't care what site they spoof to infect your system when they're doing industrial espionage.

  12. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by idontgno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And there's a reason why the executive suite doesn't listen:

    "You're not the boss of me!"

    (Supported by "If anything does happen, it's your fault anyway.")

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  13. Not necessarily the executives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know many executives who let their family use their company computer for home use.

  14. Porn! by wrackspurt · · Score: 1

    As old as graffiti as new as twitter. Ubiquitous, indomitable, insatiable.

  15. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by boristdog · · Score: 2

    I was the execs personal IT support (not my job, but hey) in the last company I worked for.
    One day the CEO brought his "wife's" laptop for me to fix because it was really slow.

    I had never seen so much and so varied porn on one persons computer before. I learned so much back then...

  16. OS Design failure by ka9dgx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So, none of this mentions the lack of a proper security design in the Operating System. When someone says run a program, it let it use this much ram, this much cpu, and this folder.... that should be it.

    But no existing commodity OS lets you do that, does it? Until capability based security becomes the norm, this will never be fixed, and information security jobs will flourish.

    1. Re:OS Design failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're using *nix, you can put processes in chroot jail, which is exactly what you're describing.

      In Windows, browsers can run in sandboxed mode with effectively does the same thing. If they're compromised, theoretically the attack is limited in its abilities. It's unfortunate how many people cry "LOLZ UAC ON WINDOZE IS DUMB U SHUD TURN IT OFF," because having UAC enabled does a shitton more than just prompt for admin privileges. Disabling UAC also disables sandboxing for the browser (which is a decision I don't fully understand or agree with).

    2. Re:OS Design failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed...no commodity OS protects absolutely from infection or data leakage either. That Capability-based security will have to be extensible, too, with flexible response by the system owner when policy is violated.

    3. Re:OS Design failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, none of this mentions the lack of a proper security design in the Operating System.

      Yep, that's a big problem. Modern OSes (particularly Windows, OS X, iOS, and Android) are all DESIGNED to leak personal information to corporate harvesters. With OSes that are DESIGNED to be insecure, malware isn't going away any time soon.

    4. Re:OS Design failure by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      I hope you realize most malware these days uses exploits... You know, bugs which were not planned for and thus can mean the circumvention of the entire security system. Your solution is no less vulnerable to a simple bug which, until it gets squashed, could let a malicious application through the net. Despite sandboxing, multiple security layers, countless detection algorithms and heuristics, malware still manages to go through, so I doubt the solution is as easy as what you're claiming.

    5. Re:OS Design failure by Kielistic · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it doesn't exist because making a usable system "secure" in every variable definition of the word is impossible.

    6. Re:OS Design failure by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      How well is that going to work for your file browser? If it is sandboxed/chrooted to its own folder structure, there isn't much to browse, is there? Ok, so open it up a bit, you say? Share it with the folders of app x, y, and z? But app x shares folders with app a, b, and c! And app y shares folders with d, e, and f...

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    7. Re:OS Design failure by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No OS can protect you against user stupidity. When the user says "execute program", the OS can yell ten times how unsafe it is and how much this is a virus, when the user overrides it all it accomplishes is to annoy the user.

      He needs administrative privileges to do that you say? And he doesn't need them to do his job you say? I agree. The C-Level in question does not. Since you can't fire him but he can fire you, guess who gets his way.

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    8. Re:OS Design failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Virtual machines allow you to do all of that and more. This comment written inside a VM with a fixed disk image with 1 processor and 2GB of RAM allocated to it.

    9. Re:OS Design failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, none of this mentions the lack of a proper security design in the Operating System. When someone says run a program, it let it use this much ram, this much cpu, and this folder.... that should be it.

      But no existing commodity OS lets you do that, does it?

      iOS and Android support this.

      Mac OS allows a program to do this (Google for "mac seatbelt"), but the program must opt-in. Some day they might allow you to run only programs that opt in, but not today.

      This is very hard to do on Windows. The Chrome sandbox does it, but only by hooking semi-documented NT API calls (such as NTCreate(), NTOpen(), etc.

      Solaris and AIX have had this forever. Linux has not caught up. The best you can do is a chroot jail to limit file system access, and there are known ways to break out of one.

  17. Do different rules apply to senior managers? by grahamsaa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've never understood why people do stuff like this. Years ago I recovered data from a CFO's laptop, only to find the thing filled with porn. Senior managers generally make enough money to have personal devices to look at porn on -- why do they risk the embarrassment of being discovered misusing company resources? I guess now that I think of it, the CFO in question wasn't fired (or even really disciplined) for this, as far as I can tell, so maybe senior managers just think that they're important enough that rules and common sense don't matter. If the laptop had belonged to a lower-level employee, he or she probably would have been disciplined.

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    1. Re:Do different rules apply to senior managers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because they can.

    2. Re:Do different rules apply to senior managers? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      My guess would be a misplaced feeling of entitlement combined with turf war mentality. Combined with a pretty comfy security that they won't get fired over something as trivial as surfing porn.

      Senior managers are a bit like little kids. They have no real worries in life and they have nothing really important to do, so they start a bling war. Who got the better car, who gets the better parking space at work, who has the secretary with the bigger hooters and so on. Of course this entails the feeling of needing certain privileges. If the rules do apply to others but not to you, you're "better" than them. He does not need administrative privileges on his PC, he also wouldn't know what to do with it anyway, but not having it is out of the question because the other manager one door down from him got his IT-goon to give it to him, so he needs them too! Plus, it is totally out of the question that some lowly IT-admin has the right to do anything that he has not.

      If you're looking for the reason why industry espionage is so successful, this is your answer. Because he has it all. He has the time to surf around, he has the privileges to infect his computer and he has access to the juicy information about the company.

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    3. Re:Do different rules apply to senior managers? by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      Oh you silly Slashdotters. The CFO certainly has a reasonable golden parachute. He probably has gold digging wife at home that would be really pissed off if he were caught watching porn. Thus, just watch it at work. Worst case, he gets fired and paid off. He'll move on to another company. Rinse and repeat.

    4. Re:Do different rules apply to senior managers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -- why do they risk the embarrassment of being discovered misusing company resources?

      Because a large percentile of them are sociopaths who believe they are immune to discovery or punishment(they'll just lei convincingly that it's your problem to his boss), since they are "above you".

    5. Re:Do different rules apply to senior managers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're making a big assumption that they would be "embarrassed" by it. My CTO literally called a company-wide meeting* once to show everyone some nude/sex pics that were emailed to him.

      * "Hey everyone, come look at this shit someone just sent me!". We're a one-room company (although we have moved to a bigger room than when this happened). Since we're such a small company, we have no HR department - the CTO has been (jokingly) recommended for the position.

    6. Re:Do different rules apply to senior managers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never understood why people do stuff like this.

      Imagine you are a man and you have a wife.

      You're welcome.

    7. Re:Do different rules apply to senior managers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe because the senior manager didn't want to carry two laptops on travel, one for working on the spreadsheets that keep the company running; the other for his/her porn viewing pleasure.

      And let us not speak of "virtual desktops" or "VPNs" to virtualize the two laptops. On travel, internet access is dicey. Sure, your hotel *might* have WiFi (and all the other porn surfing patrons are sucking up the bandwidth); there's not much bandwidth on an airplane; and 3G/LTE/4G is a joke, bandwidth wise, in a lot of areas (because everyone has tethering or a wireless data USB widget, when the hotel's 1Mbps pipe gets clogged, everyone jumps on the cellular data)

      Now, dual boot could be a possibility, as would a seamless VM scheme. But I don't see that happening.

  18. Leadership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    member the senior leadership team

    Bwahaha! "Leadership". That's a good one.

  19. NP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And executives visiting suspicious porn websites is, obviously, not a problem whatsoever

  20. Lets turn this around... by wjcofkc · · Score: 2

    If employees were bypassing security, and getting their machines and the network infected en-mass via porn. One of two or both would happen:
    A. A very stern email would go out to all employees regarding the issue.
    B. A whole lot of employees would get canned.

    Since it's executives, there will be no scolding or even talk of it. Not to mention their security for no good reason is low, so they access anything they want on the internet. It will just keeping going on. After all, this is hardly news. It's well known (at least in support) that executives have been infecting their machines and the network by the sackful for ages. When I did internal corporate IT support, I personally saw it. Over and over and over. The standard course of action? Remote into their machine, silently remark at the sheer number of porn related icons on their desktop, start removing things (toolbars too), climb around in the registry fixing all the damage the porn did, patch anything I had to, and then disconnect - walking away from the whole matter without a word. Also, these events were never properly documented to protect the executive, and therefor my job. The funny thing is, a lot of the higher ups would watch me while I was remoted into their machine, seeing everything they had been up to - they truly didn't give a shit due to their level of authority. I sometimes wondered if they got off on it. No shame at all.

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  21. Not 40% of Execs by neonv · · Score: 1

    This is not 40% if executives infecting phones. In fact, based on the article, we don't know how many execs get malware on their phone. However, out of that total unknown percentage of execs with malware, 40% of them get their malware from porn sites. The summary is using a method of lying with statistics, letting the reader infer something that isn't true by showing a similar true statistic.

    This statistic wasn't even the point of the article, but rather that breaches are not being reported by companies.

  22. http://yourbrainonporn.com/ by blahbooboo · · Score: 2

    http://yourbrainonporn.com/

    All that needs to be said...

  23. Good God by sjames · · Score: 1

    I really want to say "UNBELIEVABLE", but it's all too believable.

    Apparently it's just too much to ask that some jackass making over a million a year show a tiny little bit of emotional maturity and/or professionalism and NOT view porn at work. More is expected of teenagers at their first minimum wage job than that.

    1. Re:Good God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scum floats to the top.

  24. Why porn sites and malware? by swb · · Score: 1

    Why do porn sites have more malware than other sites?

    It stands to reason that porn on the internet shouldn't have any more to do with malware than sports on the internet. Both are popular with about the same demographic and both are providing an entertainment product.

    By now, considering the money associated with porn and the relative competiton, porn sites should be like any other site selling entertainment, wanting to maintain a "safe" shopping experience for their customers lest they take their entertainment dollar to a competitor who will provide that experience.

    Is it all tied to the shame of sex? You can rip someone off looking for erotica because it's dirty and they won't tell, but if you rip them off selling them something else they'll bitch to their friends but not be embarassed about watching sports, for example?

    This kind of makes sense, but at the same time, it runs against the profit motive of a porn site operator who has more incentive to sell you a recurring subscription and keep you as a customer than earn 10 cents providing a malware download and chase you away.

    1. Re:Why porn sites and malware? by anyanka · · Score: 1

      It's because execs don't want to pay for porn, so they end up on the bad side of the webs, where free porn is used to lure people to malware sites.

    2. Re:Why porn sites and malware? by Zapotek · · Score: 1

      Seems easier to setup a porn website to serve malware than a sports one. Not much need for coherence of content in porn, just random pictures/videos of naked people; plus, it really catches the eye.

    3. Re:Why porn sites and malware? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      My guess is that with porn sites and infections it is much like in RL with STDs. There are not really that many infected porn sites, but people tend to move around and switch frequently, hence eventually catching something.

      Stay faithful to your porn page and you will be fine. Ramen.

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    4. Re:Why porn sites and malware? by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      Why do porn sites have more malware than other sites?

      Simple, really. Tell a sports fan, "Save as. Wait. Type 'mount' and press enter. No, in the other window. Mount. Yes. Does your /home say noexec next to it? Yes, in parenthesis. I don't care about nodev, I asked about noexec. Oh, good. JUST A MINUTE, this won't take long if you just do what I say. Save as, malware.sh in your home directory. Your home directory. Now, type 'chmod +x malware.sh' Yes. Yes. No, chmod. C as in Catcher. H as in Halfback. M as in Mitt. O as in Outfield? What?! Too much work? Look, I'm sorry, but if you want your sports, then you -- hello? HELLO?"

      Now tell a porn surfer, "Save as. Wait. type 'mount' and press enter. Does your /home say noexec next to it? Ok. Save as, malware.sh in your home directory. Now, type 'chmod +x malware.sh' C as in Cunt. H as in Hot. M as in MILF. O as in Orgasm. D as in Dirty. Yes. Plus X. Now type 'sudo ./malware.sh'. Yes. Your password. No, your own password. Yes. Yes. AHA!!! GOT YOU! YOUR COMPUTER IS MINE!!!"

      See the difference?

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    5. Re:Why porn sites and malware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    6. Re:Why porn sites and malware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't really. Most of the malware is served by seedy advertisements and redirects, and porn sites aren't too picky about their ad providers (people will put up with a remarkable number of popup windows if that's what it take to see some naked people). Combine that with the fact that there's a huge amount of linking between affiliate sites, so users see many more sites in a session than they would with normal browsing, and the likelihood of finding something dodgy is high. In contrast, with sports you'd normally expect to spend time browsing one site that you like, not switch between dozens of sites in the space of a few minutes.

      The actual amount of malware is probably similar to that on other non-techy "free content" sites: lyrics, mp3 downloads, and the infamous mouse cursors and screensavers.

    7. Re:Why porn sites and malware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up funny. Looks like the year of linux on the desktop has arrived.

  25. Let's create a list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's create a list of malware free porn sites and call it executive porn-hub ~^x^~

    1. Re:Let's create a list by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      OMG, we'll make billions with the targeted ads.

      You get the domain registered, I hire the coders. Maybe we should find a few execs to harvest the pages.

      Oh. And there go our billions...

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  26. what exactly is a "visit" to a porn site by sribe · · Score: 1

    I was once googling for "evacuated cylinder solar collector", and cmd-clicking all the links to open a batch of tabs to vendors of such. A few dozen tabs in, I looked over at my secondary monitor, and it was filled with a porn site. So you see, I "visited a pornographic site" that day.

    1. Re:what exactly is a "visit" to a porn site by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Well, if you're googling for such perverted stuff, it's your own damn fault!

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    2. Re:what exactly is a "visit" to a porn site by TheNastyInThePasty · · Score: 1

      I was once googling for "evacuated cylinder solar collector",.

      Holy cow, that's some nasty porn!

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    3. Re:what exactly is a "visit" to a porn site by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      The problem is the latency - you needed to cmd click all those pages because clicking and hitting the back button to click the next link doesn't work. First, your browser wants to refresh the original page every time because...why again?

      Then, each page has a ton of 3rd party includes that break the page layout if they don't load in the right order (and have their own... 4th party, I guess.. includes, which are computed on the fly, so you have to run some of the js before you can even find out you're missing stuff, and it's always the slowest ad servers, too) to slow things down nice and good.

      So you did what anyone with half a brain would do upon discovering tab functionality. Abuse it as a pre-fetch and pre-render system to maximize the resource you care most about - your own time.

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  27. Throw the bums out by TheloniousToady · · Score: 1

    Any executive who gets a virus from a porn site instead of a hooker is grossly incompetent and should be fired.

  28. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by mysidia · · Score: 1

    There is a reason us IT folks tell people not to do these things at work.

    PERHAPS; it would be more credible if IT folks would actually explain a plausible reason, every time they tell people not to do something.

    People will assume you're telling them not to surf porn, because it's against the rules, or because you in IT feel that is immoral, and maybe you warn them about "malware" as a scare tactic to try and keep them doing what you want them to do, instead of what they want to do.

  29. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by mysidia · · Score: 1

    (Supported by "If anything does happen, it's your fault anyway.")

    No... this is when you bring them a paper; "Please sign here that you agree that you will have exclusive responsibility for the security of this workstation which will be excluded from the security rules --- you understand the risk, and the concerns of the IT department, attempting to maintain due care with regards' to the security of the organization's assets and proprietary and sensitive information."

    Copy in triplicate; keep a copy for your personal files.

  30. Oh yes. by clickclickdrone · · Score: 2

    I work in a major Bank and the support staff tell me the senior execs are all kept in a separate isolated LAN, not because of the security of the documents they work on but because they access so much porn and torrents etc that their bit of network is riddled with crap that needs daily cleaning up. And some of the porn is very much in the jail time category.

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    1. Re:Oh yes. by z0idberg · · Score: 2

      The support staff are either full of shit (which is the most likely scenario) or breaking the law themselves by not reporting this "jail time category" porn.

      And if they are more concerned with keeping their job than reporting it they are in the same low-life category as the execs accessing the stuff.

    2. Re:Oh yes. by DarkSoul42 · · Score: 2

      I also used to work in a bank, and there was this opt-in network (you actually had to ask for it, and it of course put you on a "watch" list for performance and such) on a regular home-grade connection, called "red cable". It got you access to a nearly unrestricted NAT connection (separation for each floor, wireless network segments, and meeting rooms), and incidentally allowed IT folks to download packages and other cumbersome images that the regular proxy would not download/filter.
      Meeting rooms also were wired in this fashion, in their own isolated VLANs so as to not infect guests with crap our execs would download. ;)

      On top of that we then could implement an HTTPS reverse proxy system (OpenBSD + nginx) to publish data used in meetings with outside people (vendors and such), with Kerberos password + client certificates for authentication, and very strict monitoring on said box to ensure no one accessed it out of planned timeframes.

      Cons :
      - The really cumbersome thing was, getting a restricted file (some legit packages like WireShark would get recognized as malware) on the main network, which also had its own restrictions of course, except for the IT admin floor.
      - A little more maintenance trouble, and execs throwing a fit when this supposedly "non business critical" connection went down, and it turns out someone was using it for "very important downloads". I dropped enough hints here, three guesses as to what these were.

      Pros :
      - This allowed BYOD relatively seamlessly for the execs, so they didn't feel the need to ask for admin privileges on their main network workstations.
      - And yes, some execs and IT goons would do insane torrenting and porn surfing on that network, and make a mess of it, but at least it was walled and easier to purge through fire when time called for it.

      They want to be kings ? Let them be kings of a pile of dirt, play with mud like kids, and con them in believing dirt is the new gold.

  31. Tyrants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yep, above the law, above company policy...these modern lords "tax" by paying woefully less to the peons than their labor is worth (usually less than half the profit created by said peons is returned to them) . A majority provide only the "leadership" of following the latest trends from books or from successful start-ups...except the execution is typically poor because they try to do it cheaper. Anyone who has worked for a corporation probably recognized the enthusiastic rantings every time some new initiative comes down the line...full of bluster, slogans, posters...and little substance.
    The primary qualification for most executive positions is to be found on their facebook/rolodex/speed dial list: who they know.

    And for this, they seem to ever more see themselves as superior.

    And so they jack off to internet porn behind a desk that costs more than they're willing to pay their employees in a year.

  32. Mangagement style by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    These porn-surfing execs are just taking a more "hands-on" approach to management and want to make sure they have a firm grasp on their critical infrastructure.

    It gives new meaning to The Peter Principle.

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  33. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    What you need in this case is a CISO with a hell of a backbone who cares more about doing his job than about keeping it.

    In other words: Good luck.

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  34. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

    Management and bosses aren't peons and want carte blanche when it comes to IT. At my work we had a problem with people using facebook and porn. Its a small shop with about 20 PC's and there were only two culprits: the office "manager" who spent her entire day on FB and a skeevy shop worker who used his PC for porn. The office manager tried to hide her addiction but she was caught time and time again with FB open. She once had the nerve to tell an overworked and overloaded secretary that she was too busy to help her when in reality she was on FB. At least the skeevy shop guy didn't give a shit. You could walk by his machine and see him sitting there watching the sickest shit imaginable. The worst was when he showed me this clip of a quad amputee getting gangbanged by 10 or so guys. He had no shame.

    So those two clowns earned the entire shop a Barracuda internet filtering device (a total PoS) at the bosses demand. I opted myself out of it and gave the general manager a very relaxed filter which I think only blocked porn. The boss wanted to "play with it" so I had to give him the password (how can I say no when he paid for it)? So he granted himself full access and of course I was in his office a week later cleaning malware off his PC (because you know, he is the boss and locked down security policies don't apply to him). My money is on porn.

    And the barracuda was no picnic. It crapped out every week needing a re-image. And there were times when the filter blocked legit sites because they were listed as a blocked category when they weren't (eg a commercial vendor site marked as entertainment). Then there were times it simply needed a reboot when the internet speeds came to a crawl. They fired or should I say forced out the office manager and the skeevy shop guy got paranoid when he thought the boss was watching him watch porn. So after only six months I canned the barracuda as all it did was create more problems than it solved and the problems went away.

  35. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds great on theory, but in practice the users think you re jet making risks up to scare them into complying. The reality is that most users who are in positions that earn the company money do not know or care how their computers work.

  36. I'm guilty as charged; but not infected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was smart enough to ensure my technical advisor was competent and would refuse to support Mac OS X or MS Windows.

    hmm and for that matter any and all non-free software.

  37. get a linux box by cyfer2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For the pron, get a linux box please!

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    1. Re:get a linux box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You would be surprised how well that works. Company I worked for in the past had management that wanted access to everything yet they never once provided me with a good reason why they needed that much access in my weekly discussions with them, so bad that they turned it into a joke at meetings.

      Well I got fed up with fixing all the damage they were causing and brought a traffic log with me, specifically website addresses that had been accessed from their machines and amount of data coming in from those sites compared to what was displayed. I noticed a discrepancy on most of the sites, more data logged than was actually made viewable on the page. I used this to convince a roomful of managers that it was the special porn that's hidden and could only be viewed from a Linux machine that doesn't respect the hidden flag. Of course they caught on that it was BS until I presented a demo, a Windows file share marked with the character that makes it hidden from other Windows machines but leaves it fully visible to samba client. I told them there was porn on those sites marked with the same thing and since my laptop was running Linux and didn't obey that flag they wanted the same version of Linux.

      On a side note, they never caught on to the fact that their account with admin privs on the Linux machine was mispelled as amdin. Nor did they notice that "su" and "sudo" never did anything for them.

    2. Re:get a linux box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So do you think that linux was designed for looking at porn?

  38. It's been this way for longer than a decade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    middle management execs are nasty.

  39. True. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have a family member who is a VP at a top 100 company. I've spoken to him and he mentions that they don't worry about IT coming
    after execs that high up and porn. I was shocked and tried to warn him that it just gives the company a good out if something should
    happen, yet he continues to surf porn. As I work in IT and as one of my former jobs was to monitor the midnight biology lessons that
    would take place and report on them, I found this both disturbing and pissed me off. Here I am busting my ass to keep the company
    safe yet these blue chip twats were sodomizing the company and my work.

  40. Big Picture by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    Lets not forget the big picture here. While they may be violating IT policy, possibly opening the network up to many infiltration risks, and potentially costing many hours of lost productivity across many departments; this is all true.

    The fact is, before internet porn, they were spending their time between meetings giving HR headaches with torrid office affairs and sexual harrasment lawsuits.

    Believe it or not, this is cheaper.

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    "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
  41. Is this because of downloaded executables? by Animats · · Score: 1

    Is this because porn sites are serving actual exploits that use Flash or browser bugs, or because people downloaded and ran .exe files?

    1. Re:Is this because of downloaded executables? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this because of downloaded executables?

      No, it's because of downloading executives.

  42. This study seems factually inaccurate by Identita · · Score: 1

    Reading from the article: Visiting a pornographic website (40%) Clicking on a malicious link in a phishing email (56%) Allowing a family member to use a company-owned device (45%) Installing a malicious mobile app (33%) Are these numbers cited from each individual that was polled or from the entire group of 200 people? Furthermore, they don't seem to add up. Finally, I remember when some 20 years ago when I installed my first proxy cache with site blocking capabilities and it blocked almost all porn sites. Are you telling me that major corporations with over 500 people or for that matter even 50, don't have a site blocking package installed today? I call shite on a report paid for by a malware company whose primary goal is to sell the same crap that apparently doesn't work today.

  43. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What, that the "wife" was a dirty little whore that failed to keep her personal photos secret?

  44. Two words. Irene Demova. by Chas · · Score: 1

    She's a killer man!

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    THANK GOD!!!
  45. Mostly bad ads or malware sites that use lure porn by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 1

    The "well known" paid for and free porn sites try hard to keep their servers free from malware. It's the ad servers they use to generate income that usually get infected. The other way to get malware from going to porn sites, is going to malware sites that use the promise of free porn to get you to click on stuff.

    The best way to prevent this from happening if you can't do anything about the browsing habits of your users, is to block all ad servers, regardless of what site they serve ads on on your firewalls and web proxies. We all have seen regular stories of some big "normal" web site spreading malware because the company they use for serving ads has slipped up or got hacked. As long as ad services aren't careful enough, they deserve to be blocked. That may mean that websites that have a business model that provides content paid for by ads, will not have any income. They can solve that by selling ads served on their own servers again, until the ad serving businesses get the message and start paying serious attention to malware.

    That still leaves you with people going to malware sites. There are filter lists and appliances for that, but they are never 100%, just like virus scanners are. It takes people getting infected and the industry reacting to those before some form of block can be established. If you can't educate your users, this will always remain a problem, until someone comes up with some smart technology to prevent it.

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    I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
  46. Total garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As has long been show, the prevalence of malware is far, far higher on religious sites than on porn sites. You've got the WRONG GUYS!!!!

  47. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

    The more I get older, the more I realise that the majority of adults are essentially still children.

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    May the Maths Be with you!
  48. Bossless Office by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

    So I guess we can add one more thing to the list of benefits for bossless offices: A more secure network.

  49. don't make me laugh by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    When it comes to corporate IT, they're idiots at removing viruses. I'm head IT manager but also run a mostly residential computer repair shop. I know how to remove a virus! Anyone who doesn't remove viruses for a living does not. Its as easy as can be to delete any virus manually then clean up with other tools if you know what you're doing. Unfortunately, they do not.

    1. Re:don't make me laugh by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      When it comes to corporate IT, they're idiots at removing viruses. I'm head IT manager but also run a mostly residential computer repair shop. I know how to remove a virus! Anyone who doesn't remove viruses for a living does not. Its as easy as can be to delete any virus manually then clean up with other tools if you know what you're doing. Unfortunately, they do not.

      Corporate IT doesn't need to know now to remove viruses beyond clicking 'delete' in the installed AV software. If it goes beyond that then there is a security issues and the best practice is just to replace the computer which usually takes less time, work, and worry than trying to remove viruses manually.

    2. Re:don't make me laugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corporate IT is more than capable of removing viruses, is is the idiot IT managers that do stupid shit like disable Safe Mode, block registry access and do not allow 3rd party tools to be used for clearing the viruses. The current bank I work at restricts support to only being allowed to instruct a user on how to manually kick off a update for McAfee and run a scan. Retarded dumb fucking PHBs.

    3. Re:don't make me laugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The proper response is to reimage...

  50. Sticky situation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did he get caught when someone noticed an increase in loads on the equipment?

  51. Re:So, in other words, they violate basic IT polic by CrazyDuke · · Score: 1

    Yeah, all the old behaviors still exist from childhood. Maturity just takes off enough of the rough edges to not be continually abrasive. Well, in those that have matured anyway. About a third of population didn't made it past puberty personality wise. And, about 9% never made it past the terrible twos. That latter group frequently clusters at the extremes of society, for example, in positions where they make and/or break the rules.

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    Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
  52. Agreed 110%... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You cite a BIG part of why I built this (it blocks malicious sites/servers serving malware/malscript, botnet C&C Servers, + ads w/ malicious script) & updates DAILY by 12 reputable sites in the security community with very current data:

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    Summary:

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    B. ) Hosts add reliability vs. downed or redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 w/ less added "moving parts" complexity + room 4 breakdown,

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    * "A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein

    (Addons are more complex + slowup browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently - you'll see))

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    ** "Less is more" = GOOD engineering!

    (Vs. slowing down SLOWER usermode browsers layering on MORE in addons which slow them down more: I work w/ what you have in kernelmode, via hosts - A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

    ...apk

  53. It baffles me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that companies don't use 3rd party browsers w/ AdBlock an NoScript installed. At the very least all ad servers should be blocked by proxy, but no company i've worked even does that.

  54. You have no idea... by logicassasin · · Score: 1

    I caught a VP of one of my former employers surfing tumblr for pics of women that flash their tits in public and ONLY that. He was very consistent when looking for these pics. I got wind of it when I was given access to our Solera Deep See box right after being brought in. I monitored his activity for a week then checked his past activity and, sure enough, big tits flashed in public. Used a tool to capture his IE history: Big tits flashed in public.

    I've seen execs that liked to search for wierd stuff, and they're all usually very specific on what they surf for.

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    Fifty watts per channel, baby cakes.
  55. CEOs Average 354:1 Pay vs Average Employee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are we paying these jackasses so damn much when the average worker is a far better investment?