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The Quietest Place On Earth Will Cause You To Hallucinate In 45 Minutes
Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Industry Tap reports that there is a place so quiet you can hear your heart beat, your lungs breathe and your stomach digest. It's the anechoic chamber at Orfield Labs in Minnesota where 3ft of sound-proofing fiberglass wedges and insulated steel and concrete absorbs 99.99% of sound, making it the quietest place in the world. 'When it's quiet, ears will adapt,' says the company's founder and president, Steven Orfield. 'The quieter the room, the more things you hear. You'll hear your heart beating, sometimes you can hear your lungs, hear your stomach gurgling loudly. In the anechoic chamber, you become the sound.' The chamber is used by a multitude of manufacturers, to test how loud their products are and the space normally rents for $300 to $400 an hour. 'It's used for formal product testing, for research into the sound of different things — heart valves, the sound of the display of a cellphone, the sound of a switch on a car dashboard.' But the strangest thing about the chamber is that sensory deprivation makes the room extremely disorienting, and people can rarely stay in the dark space for long. As the minutes tick by in absolute quiet, the human mind begins to lose its grip, causing test subjects to experience visual and aural hallucinations. 'We challenge people to sit in the chamber in the dark — one reporter stayed in there for 45 minutes,' says Orfield who says even he can't stand the quiet for more than about 30 minutes. Nasa uses a similar chamber to test its astronauts putting them in a water-filled tank inside the room to see 'how long it takes before hallucinations take place and whether they could work through it.'"
Cool, a real geodesic psychoisolation chamber
Yes. And people who are deaf are all out of their minds? Wow. What crap!
Some people [pointedly looking at neighbors] need external sounds to mask the quiet in their heads. The quieter the head, the louder the noi^Wmusic.
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Hmmm give me some booze and a bucket. I bet I can beat that
I've spent over an hour in a sensory deprivation tank and it wasn't nearly as trippy as this makes is sound.... Maybe longer would do it.
I've been in an anechoic chamber - it is quite strange, when you talk it feels like your voice is being sucked out of you.
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Not having reached the point that I can ignore all external stimuli, that sounds like a place I could work on inner stillness, at least. Too bad it's so far from where I live; I'd like to try a few individual hours.
I wear earplugs in the dark every night and I usually wake up perfectly sane.
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The only thing I'm gonna hear are my ears ringing... thanks Lemmy, Ivy, Keith and that D.J. from that horrible wedding.
and hyped lame at that. The effect of sensory deprivation chambers is well known. This is not a sensory deprivation chamber. The act of feeling gravity press on various parts of the body will break the detachment of mind from the constant orientating signals from the body. In other words I don't believe this crap. Deaf people somehow don't constantly hallucinate even in total darkness. Sensory deprivation chambers were refined so that the currents in the fluid that supported the body were diffuse as the presence of just the little bit of feedback such a wee current pressing against the body will break the detachment of mind from body and keep hallucination from happening. There were other little things that had to be addressed in order for the deprivation to work. Just a quiet and dark room is not enough and what is required was well documented. This is a lame add wrapped in a hyped unlikely assertion.
With this condition you will always be exposed to some other forms of sound - would this prevent the hallucinations?
After all, your senses are not fully deprived of input.
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According to the linked article, NASA doesn't use "a similar chamber", they use *THAT* chamber...
I have got to try this shit before it's made illegal.
Enjoy the silence
It'd be fun to try, but I'm not going to travel all the way to the US for that.
And certainly not paying $400 for the pleasure.
Finally I can hear the voices more clearly.
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According to 24h TV series that is already done. Militaries/feds are quite creative when it comes to torture people/win.
Given all the vacuum chambers on earth I also doubt it is the quietest place on earth. The quietest with air perhaps but not necessarily quietest overall.
Is there a way to simulate this without spending $400? Serious question.
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Are you sure that deaf people don't hear ANYTHING? Or, maybe they simply can't hear the same way you or I do?
I know for a fact that deaf people can sense vibrations, and sound is nothing more than vibration. Your ear is specially designed to make sense of a particular type of vibrations.
What about bone induction?
I googled "hearing without ears" and got a boatload of hits. Some look pretty interesting, some look less interesting. Try it yourself.
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I wouldn't want to be there.
Dig a hole about forty or fifty feet deep. Make a monolithic pour of waterproofed concrete. Install the insulation and the anechoic surfaces. You'll want at least a couple soundproof hatches in the access tunnel, maybe three or four, to eliminate noise from the wind or whatever.
With your own chamber in your back yard, you can deprive yourself anytime. When you tire of that, you can use it to hide your armory, or your gold, or dead bodies. Whatever needs to be hidden, you've got the place to hide it. Plan for the future though - a guy never knows just how many people he might meet who desperately need to be bludgeoned to death!
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It isn't being advertised as a "sensory deprivation chamber". It's being advertised as a sound testing chamber. You are deprived of one sense, and one sense alone, in this chamber.
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It would be interesting to see the reaction of a competent yogi in there. They study exactly that: excluding sensory input and generating alternate mind states.
sad really, that this article doesn't even mention the inventor of the sensory isolation tank, the mad genius Dr. John C. Lilly
it was only the 70's, people, it wasn't that long ago!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly
I had a go in the UK Plantronics anechoic chamber last year on a factory visit. They have a webcam, and an egg timer on the wall. It's not odd for people to weird out if they spend any time in the chamber. The (digital) egg timer was there so you could set it for 30 minutes and it would hopefully snap you out of any spin you got yourself into.
I was in there for no more than five minutes, and it was extremely disorientating. You really can hear the blood in your ears. It's very much like the sound you get from sea shells. I can easily imagine losing my shit in short order in there.
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Tinnitus is no fun in low noise environments as your ears seem to be awash in it. It seems really loud and overbearing, since it is all you hear. That kind of thing happens when you get your hearing tested and you have it (as I do). When they start doing threshold of hearing tests and the sounds they make are really quiet, the tinnitus seems massive and overpowering. Then you take off the headphones and leave the booth and it vanishes.
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Lifes so simple when you think outside the box....
...ever gone into the anechoic chamber, on weeeed?
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In an anechoic chamber, no one can hear you fart.
Sounds like a nice place for some arylcyclohexamines and nitrous.
It's not "Nasa", it's *NASA*... Seriously, editors? When do you ever see it written Nasa? It took me a moment to realize they meant NASA.
This really reminds me of the documentary Vice ran on sensory deprivation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYglCDgpu0). Some of the effects the people who use them claim to feel (even when not on other drugs) are quite interesting and I assume are a result of a similar mental response as described in TFA. Just a warning, the narrator is a bit of an acquired taste and a lot of people, judging from the comments on some of his documentaries, can't stand him (though I personally love his delivery). I wonder if this type of phenomenon will ever really kick off as a serious recreational escape.
Back in the 90's I spent some extended time in a sensor deprivation chamber.
Nothing as fancy as this place. Not even remotely close. Just a salt water tank and a really really dark and quite environment.
I can tell you I was Hallucinating in far less than 45 minutes when I was in a sensory deprivation tank. Auditory hallucination was the first. Then physical sensory. Then finally visual. I can't comment on temperature. I had no memory of anything to do with temperature. Pain was there, but I am a bit confused if it was a memory of a memory or if I actually felt in while in the tank.
I was in their for about a week. It was suppose to be longer. But I got pulled out when people got worried. Apparently I was not exhibiting an EEG with in expected norms. What ever that means. I used to know more about the results. But that was 20 years ago.
The hallucinations got so intense that I believed them. This only took a relatively short time. No way of telling how short really. Nothing really weird, or dangerous. I substituted what I believed to be a real world environment. Yes responses from others were to easy and terse. Which was odd. The most unusual thing was travel. Traveling distances took little time at all. Rather I don't remember details of travel. Things that you would normally remember. There is always something about a journey you remember. In the tank I didn't have those memories. I always felt rather dis-connected after travel in my hallucinations.
I was completely freaked out when they started to revive me. They started with light and then some sound in the tank. Apparently I resisted it. I forced my eyes shut and made funny faces when the light and sound started. It really was hard to accept my environment. It felt like it all went down in a few minutes. But apparently the process was over an hour.
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A while ago 5 years now.. (how time flies) I ended up travelling across Eurasia on a motorbike. Passing through desolate areas like Kazakhstan and Siberia away from the railways would be a spooky experience. You'd put your tent up and it was so quiet you could hear your heart beat and your tinnitus. You would always think though that somebody was sneaking up on you and would stab you to death and rob you.
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I thought this would be discussing my bedroom. Not much happens when there's a baby sleeping in the room across the hall.
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According to Tom Clancy, the Soviets used this for torture/interrogation.
Sounds like (no pun intended) it would be a great place to practice insight meditation
It isn;t the blocking of sound that makes a place quiet.
Anechoic chambers produce negative sound and are quieter than any sound- *proofed* room.
It is really interesting that in absence of auditory and visual sensory input, the brain quickly fills the void with false experiences. It could just go into quiet mode instead. I like the idea that all of what our brain does is building a representation of our environment and trying to anticipate inputs based on this "simulation".
Where do I sign up?
Can I get a discount for several hours?
I'd wan't a nice king size bed in the room and I'll guarantee that I won't be going crazy.
I'll be doing some of the most rejuvinating hours of sleep in my life...
Quiet, cool and dark. What more can one wish for?
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. . .I could line the walls and floor of my apartment with this stuff? The girl in the apartment underneath me has 5.1 surround sound hooked up to her TV and makes a lot of noise. Some nights it sounds like there is a thunderstorm underneath my feet.
Plus the hallucinations would be a side benefit.
Seriously though people, don't put surround sound in an apartment. Surround sound is for houses, not apartments. If you put it in an apartment you're just pissing off your neighbours.
I wonder if a person with hyperacusis might find a small amount of peace on one of these chambers. I'm already used to hearing my own bodily functions and frequently hear my heart pumping blood through my ears. Eventually you learn to cope with regular patters of noise, but random environmental sounds can drive you insane. You can't use ear plugs to get away from the problem for the same reasons mentioned in the article. Your ears adapt, and once the plugs come out the whole world seems like it is shouting at you.
for awhile, but I'd need to know any rules and such. I mean, this place isn't a full sensory deprivation chamber, it's just a silent room. So you can still see and such, I presume, or am I wrong? And can you talk? I would actually find it really fascinating, and not scary at all to hear my heartbeat and the blood rushing through my ears...
I think I'd have fun in there.
I've been in some old mines in the Mojave Desert that are every bit as quiet as one of those chambers. When you're with a group of fellow explorers the footsteps, chatter, everything is normal and familiar, but just stray away from the group a hundred feet or so and... total silence. It is very creepy and one of the main reasons (other than the obvious, such as if you got hurt you'd have no way of summoning help) that I'd never do such exploring alone.
How long until the DEA makes these things illegal?
Just say NO to absolute silence.....
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I had a small computer room lined with Armstrong's 'Soundsoak' panels and before the equipment was installed, the effect was stunning. I found the silence to be literally painful to my ears.
"Dig a hole about forty or fifty feet deep. Make a monolithic pour of waterproofed concrete."
You're nuts. Do you realize how much it costs to dig a hole 40 or 50 feet deep? Big enough for a person?
And there is no such thing as "waterproof concrete", especially at a depth of "forty or fifty feet deep".
So, is anyone in there touching themselves? You know, down _there_?
John Cage's experience in an anechoic chamber was instrumental to much of his thinking about music and silence. Or at least it made for a good anecdote that he used quite often:
"There is always something to see, something to hear. In fact, try as we may to make a silence, we cannot. For certain engineering purposes, it is desirable to have as silent a situation as possible. Such a room is called an anechoic chamber, its six walls made of special material, a room without echoes. I entered one at Harvard University several years ago and heard two sounds, one high and one low. When I described them to the engineer in charge, he informed me that the high one was my nervous system in operation, the low one my blood in circulation. Until I die there will be sounds. And they will continue following my death. One need not fear about the future of music."
Thru a buddy I got a mini tour of JBL's research lab and they had an anechoic chamber to test speaker designs. I got to spend a few minutes in the anechoic chamber and it was strange but cool sensation. First the floor was a suspended wire mesh so almost like floating, then when door was closed I starting to hear my own body and nothing else, excellent. I'd love to have an anechoic chamber or a float tank to zone out in.
My wife bought me noise canceling in-ear headphones; they work surprisingly well. I have found this to be a little disorienting when you do something like open a bag of chips and there is no external noise, but it seems like the bag-crinkle noise is conducted through your body and you sort of hear it inside your head - strange. Crunching is too weird, I have to turn them off. Great on airplanes and trains though!
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There is actually no temperature in a vacuum. That is assuming that one is speaking scientifically in that a vacuum is an absolute lack of matter in a certain volume of space. It would not even be described as absolute zero, because without any matter what temperature could you measure? On the other hand, if you're talking about a vacuum as in the thing that sucks crap out of your carpet, then yes it has matter and therefore would have a measurable temperature.
As a Buddhist i can tell you that among practicing meditators it would be easy to stay in there for hours. Especially for senior monks, practicing calm abiding meditation, only focusing on their breathing.
I'm already deaf..
Just about any natural Cave will provide a better quiet place than anyplace above ground, period.
With my tinnitus, not even that chamber is going to be "quiet."
And to think that when I was living in Minnesota back in the late 70s they'd charge $35 to float in a sensory deprivation tank for the better part of an afternoon. I mean they had an actual sensory dep salon in the Uptown area of Minneapolis just a few blocks from where I lived.
Seastead this.
Experienced this ( or something rather similar ) in a deep rock fissure in the Mauritanian Sahara. I had hiked through the desert for days, and finally found this place very, very far away from any human being. For five nights, I slept in there - that is: I tried. The silence drove me mad: I had to go outside to find sleep amid wind-generated, soft noise.
There is also the citation from Job, in the Bible, who has retired to a very lonely place to mourn: "The beatings of my heart subdue me with terror."
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
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Try standing in the middle of this. The intense lack of sound almost seems like pressure on the ears. Pretty cool to experience it though.
How long until the DEA decides to raid this place?
I'm really tired. I read "Quietest Place on Earth" and I immediately thought Disneyland. No wait, that's "happiest". Anyway, does Disneyland cause hallucinations? That's a whole different matter.
I personally would love to sit in there for a couple hours. I don't see it as a problem at all. I have always enjoyed :P
complete solitude and silence. I also have extensive experience with hallucinogenics.
People such as the monk Tenzin Wangyal from Tibet who follow the Bon Tradition and practice the Dzogchen Meditation will be capable of breaking the existing record of 45 minutes in this chamber and could stay in there more than a day. This practice is far older than budhism.
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the quites place on Earth it's my refrigerator...JUST PLAIN NOTHING !
Articles about this room pop up all of the time, it's not news unless it's new. There's nothing new here except they leave out that people have spent hours in there.
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The quietest place on Earth, (for a human) is inside the head of a completely deaf person. Take my word for it.
...what'll it do if I already hallucinate every day? I'm hallucinating that I'm locked in my closet with Alyssa Milano right now!
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