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NVIDIA Launches GTX 750 Ti With New Maxwell Architecture

Vigile writes "NVIDIA is launching the GeForce GTX 750 Ti today, which would normally just be a passing mention for a new $150 mainstream graphics card. But company is using this as the starting point for its Maxwell architecture, which is actually pretty interesting. With a new GPU design that reorganizes the compute structure into smaller blocks, Maxwell is able to provide 66% more CUDA cores with a die size that is just 25% bigger than the previous generation all while continuing to use the same 28nm process technology we have today. Power and area efficiency were the target design points for Maxwell as it will eventually be integrated into NVIDIA's Tegra line, too. As a result the GeForce GTX 750 Ti is able to outperform AMD's Radeon R7 260X by 5-10% while using 35 watts less power at the same time."

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  1. Only requires... by thevirtualcat · · Score: 2

    ... five expansion slots to fit the fans, this time!

    1. Re:Only requires... by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      Not if you pick a lower-power card from the upcoming Maxwell line-up.

    2. Re:Only requires... by thevirtualcat · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I saw that. I wasn't surprised. That seems to be the common configuration these days. (AMD is guilty of it, too.)

      Fortunately, the days of packing my computers with expansion cards are long gone, anyway.

      Won't stop me from make a cheap joke about it, though.

  2. Re:believe it when I see it by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    It's always easy for nvidia to say their graphics cards outperform AMD cards in computation, but difficult to make it happen. Nvidia is great at selling hype, nothing more.

    Thanks to the Litecoin and Bitcoin minners Nvidia are the only cards at the shelves at stores and who do not have a 150% to 200% damn markup from the MSRP price?!

    If Maxwell can also mine coins do not expect any reasonably priced GPU for years to come.

  3. Maxwell? by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    That sounds Smart...

    I'll get me coat.

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    1. Re:Maxwell? by Hillgiant · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good to the last drop.

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  4. Heat and noise.... by Kenja · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Am I the only one annoyed that average operating temperature and noise output are not standard graphic card benchmarks?

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    1. Re:Heat and noise.... by ustolemyname · · Score: 5, Informative

      The benchmarks on Phoronix did temperature, and commented on (though didn't measure) noise. Was actually a fairly comprehensive, well done benchmark, the only thing missing was frame latency measurements.

    2. Re:Heat and noise.... by gman003 · · Score: 5, Informative

      They are at Anandtech. They do noise/temps/power at idle, in a game, or under full synthetic load. They even do an overclock and then re-compare game/synth numbers.

    3. Re:Heat and noise.... by Rhywden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      By your standard, almost anything would be subjective. Let's go through your line of thinking:

      The tester chose an enclosure you probably don't have at home. As such, the card will not demonstrate the same values in your enclosure at home. As a result the tests are "subjective".

      Power consumption? Well, you've probably got a different PSU. Subjective.

      FPS? You've probably got a different CPU, different OS configuration, motherboard, harddisc... Subjective!

      In summary: If the tester uses the same enclosure for every card they test, I don't see how it's subjective. Sone or dB as a unit of loudness are measurable, as is temperature. Or do you want to tell us that, say, the distance to Betelgeuze is subjective just because you don't happen to have the proper equipment to measure it?

    4. Re:Heat and noise.... by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Forget enclosures. Power up the device with no enclosure, give me the numbers at 1 meter distance.

      Now we have a COMMON bar to use to judge.

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    5. Re:Heat and noise.... by triffid_98 · · Score: 2

      Yes

      Operating temperature and noise output would only be valid measurements for the reference card. Once it starts getting manufactured by PNY or Diamond or eVGA or whomever they'll be using their own coolers and their own variations of the NVIDIA board.

    6. Re:Heat and noise.... by lordofthechia · · Score: 5, Funny

      I opened the link scrolled through it, only to get all excited that my card (the R9 290) was trouncing everything else in one of the charts!

      Then I realized I was looking at the temperature charts....

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  5. Re:Believe it! by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I had understood that anyone with half a brain was on ASICs now.

    Then again anyone with half a brain wouldnt be joining the pyramid scheme so late in the game.

  6. Re:Believe it! by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had understood that anyone with half a brain was on ASICs now.

    Then again anyone with half a brain wouldnt be joining the pyramid scheme so late in the game.

    Butterfly which makes the ASICS has been busted taking as long as 8 months for the orders.

    Basically you plow down $2,000 for the units and they keep them for 7 months and mine the coins with your device. Then sell it to you when the cost of the coins go up 3000% so you lose your investment and Butterfly keeps the interest made ... similiar to banks with holding cash for 48 hours etc.

    But at least banks give the money back after 72 hours after they short stocks and keep the interest on your cash first. These guys are sharks.

    Litecoins are cheaper and so are Dogecoins so it is not too late for these as with the value falling it is a great time to invest again before it goes back up.

  7. Re:66%? big deal. by amorsen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you had read the article, you would have known that they went from 118 mm2 to 148mm2, i.e. a 25% increase in area.

    If Slashdot entered the 21st century, it would be able to render superscript.

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  8. Re:believe it when I see it by TyFoN · · Score: 3, Informative

    What else would you use an amd card for?
    I you want to game and/or use linux with any performance and stability you need a nvidia card.

    Intel integrated gpu works fine for linux though if you don't need the performance,

  9. Re:Wow by sexconker · · Score: 2

    5-10% better than a cheaper rival card that came out 5 months ago.
    Go nvidia, go!

    I'm no nVidiot, but 5-10% improvement at a substantial power savings in the same price bracket is indeed an impressive feat.
    This being a brand new architecture means that later cards can also reap these benefits.

    AMD and their OEMs are still slowly trotting out 290X cards with decent cooling at inflated prices. The sooner nVidia gets their next architecture out there the sooner we'll see new products / price drops on the AMD side. The sooner that happens, the sooner we see new products / price drops on the nVidia side.

    This competition thing has its benefits, you see. Meanwhile, in CPU land we've been stuck for years of Intel charging $BUTT for marginally better (and sometimes worse) shit that, as usual, requires a new mobo+chipset to fully utilize.

  10. Re:66%? big deal. by Ash+Vince · · Score: 4, Funny

    If Slashdot entered the 21st century, it would be able to render superscript.

    Maybe the beta supports it :)

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  11. Re:Believe it! by JDG1980 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I had understood that anyone with half a brain was on ASICs now.

    That's true for Bitcoin, which uses SHA-256 as its hashing protocol. But for Litecoin, Dogecoin, and a bunch of other knock-off "altcoins", the proof-of-work is Scrypt, and that is difficult to support on ASICs because of the memory requirements.

    There are some Scrypt ASICs currently being tested, but hash rates are quite modest and they focus more on saving power than on outgunning the top AMD video cards.

  12. FUCK BETA by synapse7 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hype or not, games on my gtx 760 look amazing. Looks like they are testing the waters for the next flagship.

  13. Re:Wow by fsck-beta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Meanwhile, in CPU land we've been stuck for years of Intel charging $BUTT for marginally better

    If you think Haswell, Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge were 'marginally better' you aren't paying attention.

  14. Re:Believe it! by bloodhawk · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am sure as the Zimbabwe dollar fell people were also saying it was a great time to invest before it went back up again. At some stage if enough confidence is lost there is no recovery.

  15. Re:66%? big deal. by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe the beta supports [superscript] :)

    I just checked; it does not. (I tried both ways: using unicode character entities and using the <sup> tag.)

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  16. Re:Wow by viperidaenz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You say the big advance is in power, then mention the 290X, which has a single precision GLOPS/W figure of 19.4, between the new GTX750's 19.0 and the GTX750TI's 21.8

    The 290X has a double precision GFLOPS/W of 2.6, the GTX750TI gets 0.68. Compared to the 65W TDP Radeon 250's double precision performance of 0.74, its a loser.

    This is just hype and selective benchmarks for a new architecture that was supposed to be 20nm. They couldn't get it built on 20nm so they've had to stick with 28.
    If it was 20nm, it probably would be better all round.

  17. Re:believe it when I see it by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, for one, you can use it.

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  18. Re:Nvidia's L2 Cache Jump by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    It's also only measuring single precision performance. The AMD GPU's are more power efficient at double precision.

  19. Re:believe it when I see it by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    Don't worry. They 260X they're comparing it to is still 2x faster at bitcoin mining. Still faster per-watt as well.