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Windows 9 To Win Over Windows 7 Users, Disables Start Screen For Desktop
DroidJason1 writes One of Microsoft's main goals with Windows 9, the next major version of Windows, is to win over Windows 7 hold outs. The operating system will look and work differently based on hardware type. Microsoft is looking to showcase the desktop for desktop and laptop users, while two-in-one devices like the Surface Pro or Lenovo Yoga will support switching between the Metro interface and the classic desktop interface. The new desktop will allow Modern UI apps to run in windowed mode, and have Modern UI apps pinned to the Start Menu instead of a Start Screen. There will also be a mini-start menu. Microsoft is looking to undo the usability mistakes it made with Windows 8 for those who are not on a touch device. WIndows 9 is expected around spring of 2015.
Isn't that supposed to be windows 8.2?
Can they also put a switch in this to make Office usable? I can't stand that fucking ribbon interface that makes everything I used to do the most often 5 times more difficult.
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That it goes x64 only, much like they said a year and change ago.
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So this means my virtualized headless server won't have a touch screen interface? Glad someone used some common sense.
I finally got my Windows 7 system working reliably. I'm not budging until I have to.
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Shit better not happen!
It's too late. Classic shell is better than the start menu ever was or ever will be.
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So:
Windows 9 is to Windows 7, what Windows 7 is to Windows XP.
Why?
Because Windows 9 is to Windows 8 what Windows 7 is to Windows Vista (which is Windows ME to Windows XP).
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(Until Nemesis had to go and completely suck, even beyond the abysmal standard of the TNG movies)
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We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Windows 8.X / 8.1X needs a new name to get rid of the bad PR and make the changes stand out more.
I know, ridiculous, right?
Microsoft could have avoided all this mess by simply listening to people who were beta testing and using 8 and complaining about the horrible start screen. I'm sure they got PILES of feedback, but they were so stubborn they even went out of their way to keep people from bringing back the traditional start menu.
What happened to listening to your customers? To providing options? Historically MS has always been all about that, and *Apple* has been the "our way, or the highway" company. It was really strange to see things reversed for Windows 8.
Also, MS really should break free of their "we are the only OS that exists" philosophy. Other operating systems support a wide variety of filesystems and networking protocols out of the box. Windows still only supports its own and assumes nothing else exists. It's time to knock that shit off, Microsoft.
What about some of the huge downgrades in functionality that came with 8?
Audio controls being a big one.
Pardon?
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Instead of saying "One of Microsoft's main goals with Windows 9, the next major version of Windows, is to win over Windows 7 hold outs." wouldn't it be more factual to say the main goal is to "overcome the design failures that prevented widespread adoption of Windows 8."
As much as they love to pat themselves on the back for having such a "revolutionary" design, there is no better evidence that it Win 8 was a groupthink circlejerk than how no one who had the choice would use it.
I gotta call you on that, man. Windows 98 and Windows 2000 were awesome compared to Windows 95 and Me (Windows 99?). XP only narrowly avoided the odd numbered curse because it was named XP instead of 01 or 1. I guess they fired all the people that made Windows Me. Then they brought them all back to make Windows Vista and, after they'd learned their lesson with Vista, they had them make Windows 8.
everyone and their grandmothers has windows 7 and won't be switching till whenever support ends for it (and everyone wonders why they didn't stop years before).
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Why in the world would I want to give Microsoft more money just to stay on the Microsoft Upgrade Treadmill©?
I wonder what reason they'll use to justify pulling it back out of Windows 10?
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What about some of the huge downgrades in functionality that came with 8?
Audio controls being a big one.
Pardon?
You need to speak up, his audio controls are messed up.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
I was wondering when one of the "oh the new start menu is great, it's just misunderstood and needs to be relabeled" goblins crawls out of his cave to poop his bullshit on this thread.
Did the epic failure of 8 teach you nothing? We WANT the proper tree menu in start menu. Not your shitty catastrophe that can't even have a proper tree structure. An actual, usable start menu.
Go back to your cave. Eight is dead as is (hopefully) start screen. Even microsoft is apparently starting to get it.
"I herd you like Windows, so we decided to put MORE windows in your Windows!" But seriously now, what those articles tell me is that Windows 9 will behave like Windows 7 does on my current HW...soooo why the hell would *I* want to upgrade?
They release new versions of windows too often, and charge too much for the upgrades. Also, far too many things stop working once one upgrades.
I intend to hang on to 7 until the end of extended support, and possibly after that, because I have no incentive to upgrade. Their willingness to give me back the interface they shouldn't have taken away in the first place is not an incentive to upgrade, it is merely one less disincentive.
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...and purchased a Mac Pro. My WIN2K machine started showing its age. HP stopped making ink cartridges for my printer. Upgrading required a completely new system as none my peripherals will work on Vista and higher. We started using WIN7 at work from XP and I just hated it. Since I had to buy a completely new system, a Mac Pro was only a little more money. And the migration to learning a new OS was easier than I anticipated. I have no regrets, especially seeing the stupid mistakes MS has made in WIN8.
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If they gave me a $10,000 PC with windows on it, the first thing I'd do is wipe the partition and install KDE. Linux isn't a problem, it's a solution.
On a high resolution touch screen, the metro interface (not the apps, those suck so bad in their own right...) is way way better than attempting to navigate through a bunch of scrolling and pop-out menus. Using a mouse, the scrolling and pop-out menus still suck (they always have, look back at the complains about why can't Windows 98/XP do better) and I think the metro 'start menu' is slightly better. Using a keyboard, the traditional start menu is better.
I'm on a Surface Pro, I've used both interfaces in multiple ways. I prefer categories like the linux menus, but 3rd party for-profit companies have never worked together for that.
Too little.... WAAAAAAY too late....
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WHY are you powering down a desktop, never mind cutting its power off?? I mean, I can understand rebooting (which it does pretty damn fast - well under a minute to get back to the login screen on my system, and a good chunk of that is BIOS status displays - so I'm skeptical of your "four minutes" complaint) when needed, but powering down even without disconnecting power is an edge case scenario these days (use Suspend, or Hibernate if you need to) and cutting the power cord is an extremely rare need (also, you can hibernate if needed).
Even in the case that this is something you legitimately need to do, your complaint is stupid. Just wait until the power light on the case goes out (and the fans spin down, which is easy to *hear* even if you aren't looking at the case) before cutting the power!
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