Disappointed Woz Sells His "Worthless" Galaxy Gear Watch

Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:05 · Score: -1

He put a bunch of 74ls logic on a PCB, just like everyone else back then did. What else has he done?

Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:09 · Score: 5, Funny

More than you can say about yourself for sure. Your biggest achievement in life is probably this post on Slashdot.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Ralph+Wiggam · 2014-07-01 05:12 · Score: 5, Informative

He invented the universal remote control.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CL_9
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:13 · Score: 5, Informative

You mean besides building a disk controller in software that was faster and far more adaptable and reliable than the hardware versions at the time, and cost a tenth as much?
Yeah, I can't figure why that would be important in 1977.
Re:Legendary nerd? by bill_mcgonigle · 2014-07-01 05:17 · Score: 5, Insightful

Don't forget about the resolution he got out of a video controller. Or the way he mercilessly attacked the IC count. Woz is a populist geek hero to anybody who wants to maximize performance while minimizing cost.
The big iron folks always look down their noses at the little people with their little computers, but they don't start any revolutions.

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Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:17 · Score: -1

I, like many engineers, designed plenty of things, but like most people I wasn't lucky enough to design the one right thing at the right time.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:23 · Score: 0

So was Don Lancaster 5 years before. Where's the collective blowjob for him?
Re:Legendary nerd? by iggymanz · 2014-07-01 05:24 · Score: 5, Informative

No one else designed the circuits and firmware/software of a 6502 based computer system with output that worked on a home TV.
He holds four patents as sole inventor:
No. 4,136,359: Microcomputer for use with video display
No. 4,210,959: Controller for magnetic disc, recorder, or the like
No. 4,217,604: Apparatus for digitally controlling PAL color display
No. 4,278,972: Digitally-controlled color signal generation means for use with display
Please post link to your major contributions to the field of personal computing, we're looking forward to it. Unless as I suspect your biggest contribution is the dried and crusted mass on the underside of your system's desk
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:42 · Score: 0, Troll

No, one of the earliest programmable controllers and the most capable at the time but by no means the first, an since more technologies than IR were used at the time by no means truly universal
Re:Legendary nerd? by Ralph+Wiggam · 2014-07-01 05:49 · Score: 0

He says that at the time he could not find a way to control all of his home entertainment electronics with one device, and money was clearly not an issue for him.
Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:02 · Score: 0, Insightful

Attributing it to luck is what losers do.
Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:06 · Score: 0

I, like many engineers, designed plenty of things, but like most people I wasn't lucky enough to design the one right thing at the right time.
Sometimes it's worth saving your reputation to avoid being associated with some of today's inventions. The "Internet of Things" pretty much sums up the majority of that stupid pointless activity.
No, my toilet does not need a IPv6 connection. I promise you I can still take a shit without it.
Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:16 · Score: 0

yes but how would your FB followers know how big your shit was and what it looked like.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:17 · Score: 0

I thought I was the only one who wiped boogers under my desk.
Re:Legendary nerd? by mindwhip · 2014-07-01 06:36 · Score: -1, Flamebait

Woz is a populist geek hero to anybody who wants to average performance while increasing cost to pay for the 'cool factor'.
Fixed that for you

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Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:45 · Score: 0

LOL the "big iron" people didn't start any revolutions? Like besides computerizing everything from the 1950s onwards? What kind of brain damage have you suffered?
Banks. Insurance companies. Process control. Fly by wire. Missile control. Yeah, no revolutions there. The "big iron" people sure didn't start anything.
You're a fucking idiot and every post you make just adds more evidence.
Seriously, how did you arrive at your moronic conclusion and who are the anencephalic droolers who mod you up?
Re:Legendary nerd? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · 2014-07-01 06:48 · Score: 4, Funny

You'd be surprised how many people wipe boogers under your desk!

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Re:Legendary nerd? by Dins · 2014-07-01 06:56 · Score: 2

He holds four patents as sole inventor: No. 4,136,359: Microcomputer for use with video display
So with this patent alone, wouldn't he be able to patent troll the entire computer industry out of existence? I'm only half kidding.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:57 · Score: 0

Oh right, he was the only one back then. No one else designed their own video chips or disks controllers.
Were does the queue form for sucking his dick?
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:13 · Score: 0

No one else designed the circuits and firmware/software of a 6502 based computer system with output that worked on a home TV.
Like the BBC Micro?
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:14 · Score: 1

I think you got your Steves mixed up.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:19 · Score: 0

He holds four patents as sole inventor: [...]
Well, not to diminish his accomplishments, but he holds four expired patents as sole inventor.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:21 · Score: 0

Not really, he created the first programmable universal remote. But then again, Apple's founders always were ones for convincing others they were first at something, when really they just made an incremental leap (Alto -> Lisa).
Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:23 · Score: 0

Does it weigh and measure in keurics?
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:29 · Score: 0

>No. 4,136,359: Microcomputer for use with video display
An interesting patent since it was gifted in 1977, yet Don Lancaster published the TV Typewriter in 1975.
http://www.google.ca/patents/US4136359
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Typewriter
In fact, I hold a copy of the CMOS Cookbook (why?) published by him in 1977 with the plans for the TV typewriter (Chapter 8).
I'd go through the rest, but I have better things to do. I'm certain by the sequential patent numbers, however, they were all released in 1978 and beyond. Magnetic disc was around in 1878. (Yes, 18..78). Applying the TV Typewriter to a PAL TV is about as exciting as... well... it just isn't. As for a colour computer, too bored to bother right now.
He's a great and very intelligent guy who does well by improving someone else's idea. Patenting those ideas, though, is just being a scumbag.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:51 · Score: 0

Silence, Luddite! You must not question the Legend of the Only Man who Designed Logic in 1977!
Now get that fat cock back in your mouth, mister!
Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:54 · Score: 0

It's about hard work and sticktoitiveness.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 08:10 · Score: 0

Patents expire after 20 years. All patents from the 1980's are long dead.
Re: Legendary nerd? by FatdogHaiku · 2014-07-01 08:24 · Score: 4, Insightful

No, my toilet does not need a IPv6 connection. I promise you I can still take a shit without it.
Sorry, as part of the "pay per flush" sewer service billing not only will it be monitored it will also have an override to disable it in the event of a police raid...

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Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 08:40 · Score: 0

Attributing to skill is what lucky people do.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Ralph+Wiggam · 2014-07-01 08:43 · Score: 1

How would a non-programmable universal remote work?
Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 09:06 · Score: 0

Telegram.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 09:22 · Score: 0

I am near certain that the total count of booger depositers under my desk in 15 years is 0.
That is what pants are for.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 09:54 · Score: 0

You mean like Commodore? or Atari? or Texas Instruments? Or Tandy/Radio Shack? Or any of the other computer manufacturers of that era?
Re:Legendary nerd? by kegon · 2014-07-01 10:06 · Score: 1

A programmable remote you tell what frequencies to use; a non programmable you choose from a table of frequencies that different manufacturers are known to use.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Ralph+Wiggam · 2014-07-01 10:16 · Score: 0

So it's useless for any TVs manufactured after the remote was? That kind of sucks.
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 10:47 · Score: 0

Brands tend to stick with the same remote codes (I think there are only like 3 remote codes for every sony television in existence)
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 11:45 · Score: 0

Manufacturers rarely change much about the codes used by their IR remotes, unless there is some new feature on the device that requires new buttons/codes. Unlike what the grandparent says, non-programmable remotes often have the codes built-in and you just give them a number from a list known to work for the particular type of device. In spite of the lack of flexibility these devices really do tend to work for a fair period of time due to manufacturers not needing to change codes very often. The IrDA on an HP48 or recent phones are unusual in their IR being fully programmable.
Re:Legendary nerd? by drinkypoo · 2014-07-01 12:30 · Score: 1

Manufacturers rarely change much about the codes used by their IR remotes, unless there is some new feature on the device that requires new buttons/codes.
Unless they are Sony, and invent a new protocol to control Blu-Ray players even though they don't need any buttons you don't get on a typical modern DVD remote.

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Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 12:57 · Score: 0

He is, in fact, legendary. He's become worthy of becoming famous with his contributions to a company that is now huge. You may not be impressed with his accomplishments, but that doesn't change the fact that by definition he's legendary.
Re:Legendary nerd? by jpellino · 2014-07-01 13:08 · Score: 2

He wrote Apple Integer BASIC in 6502 machine code with no prior experience. Designed the Disk ][ (I still have working ones - these suckers were/are robust!) with trivial prior experience. Convinced Jobs to put all those pesky expansion slots in the Apple ][.

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Re:Legendary nerd? by Chewbacon · 2014-07-01 13:24 · Score: 1

Must... resist... feeding... the troll...
GOD DAMMIT
You do know who Steve Wozniak is, right? Regardless of whatever fanboy you are.

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Re:Legendary nerd? by sillybilly · 2014-07-01 13:52 · Score: 1

Until they reform the patent system, like they keep reforming the copyright system. Original copyright in the US was 14 years, renewable to 28. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C... The copyright laws were so much nicer before 1790, you know why? Because they were nonexistent!
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 15:26 · Score: 0

Doesn't have to be a troll. It could be an age thing. If you are too young, you are ignorant of history and don't know who he is. If you are too old (say, in the biz back in the 70's) you can put his work in perspective and have an idea how impressive it may or may not have been (and perhaps know from whom he stole his ideas), and if you fall somewhere in the middle, who came of age during the love-fest for all things Apple, HE IS A GOD!!!!
Re:Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 16:46 · Score: 0

I Know that he has the Steves mixed up.
Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 17:17 · Score: 0

Couldn't you take a bucket of water and dump it in to achieve the same effect as a flush?
Re: Legendary nerd? by AmiMoJo · 2014-07-02 00:10 · Score: 1

No, my toilet does not need a IPv6 connection. I promise you I can still take a shit without it.
I'd buy a network connected toilet. In fact Bluetooth ones already exist and have some useful features, like only turning on the heated seat when you are at home so they don't waste energy. I don't have a problem with well designed, secure hardware like that.
Some people seem to think that securing such things is impossible. I'm not willing to give up on a Star-Trek like future just because, like Microsoft back in the 90s, current manufacturers don't have a clue and are rushing in with no thought for security. I'm willing to wait.

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Re:Legendary nerd? by Shirley+Marquez · 2014-07-02 05:15 · Score: 1

Don Lancaster never wanted to go corporate. He likes his independent life. He wrote a book about how to do it yourself: The Incredible Secret Money Machine. The second edition of the book is available as a PDF download on his web site: http://www.tinaja.com/ebooks/i...
Re:Legendary nerd? by Samizdata · 2014-07-02 09:02 · Score: 1

I got to beta one of those. It was pretty amazing in its day.

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Re:Legendary nerd? by Samizdata · 2014-07-02 09:04 · Score: 1

Well, I am working on an Arduino-driven underdesk sanitation system....

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Re: Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-02 13:22 · Score: 0

I'll bite. Heating a toilet seat at all is always a waste of energy. I mean really? Heated toilet seat? WTF. Wuss!
Unless maybe you live in Siberia and its a toilet outside the house.
Re:Legendary nerd? by iggymanz · 2014-07-02 17:26 · Score: 1

that was first released in december 1981. thanks for playing
Re:Legendary nerd? by Meski · 2014-07-02 19:13 · Score: 1

Oi! Some of us predate LS

Did the editor know...this is Google/Android tech? by xxxJonBoyxxx · 2014-07-01 05:06 · Score: -1

>> Apple co-founder..."Galaxy Gear...worthless"

Hmmm...I read that as "Apple insider says Google device bad." And...you were expecting?

Agreed. by Lumpy · 2014-07-01 05:08 · Score: 3, Informative

I did the same, except I returned to ti Best Buy and got a Pebble instead.

Works a LOT better for what a smart watch is good for, critical Information display.

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Re:Agreed. by Begemot · 2014-07-01 05:52 · Score: 1, Interesting

critical information?
How many of us really get critical information?
No text or email crap I'm getting is critical. My wife and the kids can call my mobile.
Re:Agreed. by Lumpy · 2014-07-01 08:30 · Score: 2

SQL server is down and the boss is in the elevator coming to fire you is a pretty critical bit of information.
I get all kinds of stats from work and home, the Pebble has a full open API that allows me to do whatever I want. the Samsung crap is closed up tight with not even any promises of opening it up yet.

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Re:Agreed. by Kernel+Kurtz · 2014-07-01 09:23 · Score: 1

I have a Pebble was thinking of getting a Gear just for the better screen and generally better quality materials.
It's handy in the car for reading texts. It would be illegal to do that on my phone here, but I can sit right beside a cop car and scroll through them on my watch with no issues. Obviously have to stop to send them though.
Also great having the GPS rangefinder on my wrist when golfing as opposed to constantly checking a phone.
It's rudimentary first gen tech, but I can see it getting better and more useful over time. I doubt the niche will just disappear as a fad.
Re:Agreed. by sydneyfong · 2014-07-01 11:52 · Score: 1

Most critical production systems have alerts to pagers and phones. Nobody exclusively relies on email for this kind of stuff.

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Re:Agreed. by zippthorne · 2014-07-01 14:11 · Score: 1

If the boss is coming to fire you, then the server is no longer critical information. The boss coming to fire you isn't really critical information either, since having it doesn't give you any options anyway - the decision has already been made.

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Re:Agreed. by superwiz · 2014-07-01 23:41 · Score: 1

SQL server is down and the boss is in the elevator coming to fire you is a pretty critical bit of information.
So as to fix it himself? Fear is how you negotiate down your life.

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Re:Agreed. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-02 03:29 · Score: 0

yeah this kills me, esp given the vapid ars article about how "smart" watches are going to be so uber and glass is just a gimmick...
really, are those watches actually capable of displaying entire messages or just give you a summary? I suspect it's just a brief "summary" sender + 1st few words of message, so really, you can get your "critical" message in a couple words? Must not really be critical then or so fucking trivial that it's NOT REALLY "critical".
I still think that things like glass(augmented reality) ARE already MUCH more useful than ANY "smart"watch EVER will be. And if they live of to their promise, e.g. as I wrote elsewhere doing things like overlaying technical diagrams on something that I'm working on, removing the necessity to refer to a manual or schematic, that alone would make them INFINITELY more valuable than a shitty little "smart" watch that beeps at me about messages and phonecalls(yay it replicates my phone functionality in a useless fashion). I can even see something like glass with automatic text language translations and other things. There's just no end to the usefulness of something that provides truly useful info in realtime(or near) like even just the two prior mentions... and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Re:Agreed. by Begemot · 2014-07-02 04:18 · Score: 1

If the SQL servers is down, the last thing the boss wants is to fire me. Trust my 20 years of experience on both sides of the table.

watches? by iggymanz · 2014-07-01 05:09 · Score: -1, Troll

people still wear those silly bracelets with clocks on them? why?

Re:watches? by retchdog · 2014-07-01 05:16 · Score: 1, Informative

they're convenient and unobtrusive, especially at the movies or at dinner with other people. they also look nice; yes, this matters.

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Re: watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:17 · Score: -1

Because wearing an expensive one helps you get the ladies. Not that you'd know that from living in Mommy's basement.
Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:18 · Score: 2

Convenience. It takes me a second or so to read my watch whereas it takes probably 15 seconds total to take my phone out of my pocket, wake the screen up, tell the time and then put the phone back in my pocket. What's more, a typical wrist watch will keep time for the better part of a decade with a single charge.
Good luck finding a phone that keeps a charge that long.
Re:watches? by MightyYar · 2014-07-01 05:22 · Score: 0

To tell the time?

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Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:23 · Score: 0

people still wear those silly bracelets with clocks on them? why?
Useful statistics (such as knowing what time it is) never go out of style. Neither does convenience, and I NEVER have to worry about my watch battery dying, as opposed to smartphones that require constant juicing.
And ironically enough, that "silly bracelet" design you mock so much IS your next-gen smartphone format, so keep on mocking. Perhaps you will be one of the last idiots still digging their watch out of their pocket.
Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:24 · Score: 0

Because in certain jobs an accurate watch is worth a hell of a lot more than a cellphone, such as the marine industry. I have my smartphone and a watch. I look at the watch probably every 5 min on average in my job. Wouldn't want to be pulling my phone out of my pocket to do the same.
Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:25 · Score: 0

So YOU"RE the Area Man.
Re:watches? by iggymanz · 2014-07-01 05:29 · Score: 0

my cell phone does that, don't need a second clock strapped to my wrist, how l 19th and 20th century.
First wristwatch was in 1868, the last one needed was over 20 years ago.
even more clocks are everywhere now, on system desktop, on the land line phone, on my printer.....
Re:watches? by iggymanz · 2014-07-01 05:37 · Score: 1

yes, I'll agree some jobs require gear to do efficiently. I once had a job where it was beneficial to have gerber multi-tool in a holster, however if most people did that they would just be wearing jewelry.
Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:39 · Score: 0

So watches are obsolete, but land lines and desktop printers aren't? okay dude.
Re:watches? by MightyYar · 2014-07-01 05:50 · Score: 1, Insightful

In an office environment, sure, a wristwatch is superfluous. Doing anything even remotely active, you don't necessarily have your cell phone in a handy spot: jogging, biking, swimming, sailing, fishing, etc. You also can snag a quick look at your watch without getting caught - much harder to do with a smartphone, and much less socially awkward. Smart phones sometimes die - I don't always get a full day out of my battery, but a watch will run essentially forever. Smart phones aren't very durable, even with protective cases - so if you are doing something where the smart phone might get wet or subject to impact, it isn't really an option. Smart phones also aren't very pretty. You can deck them out with fancy cases, but at the end of the day a shiny piece of functional jewelry is still nicer aesthetically. People would probably wear something on their wrist even without the time-telling feature - that is sort of a bonus.

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Re:watches? by jon3k · 2014-07-01 06:17 · Score: 1

Because they are pieces of art. The combination of form, function and movement is inherently beautiful.
Re:watches? by jeffmflanagan · 2014-07-01 06:27 · Score: 1

For mine, I wear it because it tracks my heartbeat, perspiration, body temp, and activity. Do you have an alternative to a watch that can do all these things?
Re:watches? by jeffmflanagan · 2014-07-01 06:28 · Score: 1

It turns out that you're way behind the times iggymanz, so it's hilariously ironic that you're talking about watches being part of the past.
Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:36 · Score: 0

I bet you don't own a TV either.
Re:watches? by iggymanz · 2014-07-01 06:37 · Score: 1

they are, no practical need for them in most cases. male jewelry with a timepiece, that's what you're wearing
Re:watches? by iggymanz · 2014-07-01 06:44 · Score: 1

that's right, VOIP phones we call land line, quite common in offices these days.
printing a requirement of the industry I'm in, bet that's because of the watch wearers
Re:watches? by iggymanz · 2014-07-01 06:50 · Score: 1

sure, great for some sports and some jobs too. part of the gear. can't see the sense for most people though
funny, the boats I've been on for fishing on Lake Michigan had clocks. and gps, etc.
Re: watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:50 · Score: 0

Maybe if you moved out of Mommy's basement and got married, you wouldn't need to "get the ladies".
Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:53 · Score: 0

my cell phone does that, don't need a second clock strapped to my wrist, how l 19th and 20th century.
First wristwatch was in 1868, the last one needed was over 20 years ago.
even more clocks are everywhere now, on system desktop, on the land line phone, on my printer.....
Do you bitch at people who wear belts, too? Surely elastic waistbands are good enough for _anybody_ and that shit has been around for, like ever! Not to mention the tendency of _some_ of us to occasionally venture away from a system desktop, a phone handset, or _gasp_ even a printer and still want to know what time it is.
Re:watches? by iggymanz · 2014-07-01 07:00 · Score: 1

so you wear a collection of biometric transducers that also includes a time display. cool.
Re:watches? by wonkey_monkey · 2014-07-01 07:15 · Score: 1

it takes probably 15 seconds total to take my phone out of my pocket, wake the screen up, tell the time and then put the phone back in my pocket.
You have vastly underestimated how long 15 seconds is. Go on, try it.

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Re: watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:17 · Score: 0

Because wearing an expensive one helps you get the ladies. Not that you'd know that from living in Mommy's basement.
Trying to classify the materialistic attention whores who lament over expensive watches as "ladies" is a slap in the face to any woman who earned the title of lady.
Not that you'd know anything about that, being an expensive watch owner...
Re:watches? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2014-07-01 07:43 · Score: 1

> belts...[use instead] elastic waistbands
I hear Sandisk diskless flash chips company started out as the Sansabelt slacks company.

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Re:watches? by Tarlus · 2014-07-01 08:10 · Score: 1

Yeah, all those things are great for people who don't go outside.

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Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 08:33 · Score: 0

The statement that's quite popular amongst losers— "I don't need/want it, and therefore no one should."
Re:watches? by geekmux · 2014-07-01 08:34 · Score: 1

my cell phone does that, don't need a second clock strapped to my wrist, how l 19th and 20th century.
First wristwatch was in 1868, the last one needed was over 20 years ago.
even more clocks are everywhere now, on system desktop, on the land line phone, on my printer.....
Your smartphone has a screen too. Time to chuck out that old-fashioned monitor, along with your HDTV, calculator, paper, pencil, and deck of cards. That's why smartphones were invented. Obviously.
What the hell are you still doing with an ISP at home? Your smartphone has internet access too. Cancel that home shit already grandpa and get with the times. No reason you need a second internet provider...
Re:watches? by geekmux · 2014-07-01 08:55 · Score: 1

For mine, I wear it because it tracks my heartbeat, perspiration, body temp, and activity. Do you have an alternative to a watch that can do all these things?
An alternative to track your perspiration? Yes, I do. It's called my nose.
And don't worry about alarms. My mouth works too.
Only downside is I don't have much of a silent mode. I tend to fart a lot. Part of my self-calibration program.
Re:watches? by spire3661 · 2014-07-01 09:20 · Score: 1

You mean people still have need for a wrist mounted Chronometer with a battery life measured in years(or no battery at all)? Yes, yes they do. Its a serious tool, not just a silly bracelet.

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Re:watches? by butchersong · 2014-07-01 09:23 · Score: 1

I have to agree. Trying to make a wearable device pretend to be something it isn't and conform to a 19th and 20th century form factor seems silly. I know it sounds a little nerdy but a small unobtrusive 16:9 flexible display on the bottom of your forearm would be a better solution than a watch. Maybe a small near invisible projector HUD display for people who wear glasses. There's lots of cool wearable stuff you could do and do stylishly... I just don't get these pretend watches that are never going to look right on half the population with smaller wrists.
Re:watches? by kaatochacha · 2014-07-01 09:54 · Score: 1

I just did. Took me 13 seconds to do it, though I really didn't need to wake the phone to get the time.
Re:watches? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 10:09 · Score: 0

I cancelled my home shit 5 years ago. Unlimited data is great!
Re:watches? by wonkey_monkey · 2014-07-01 10:23 · Score: 1

Yikes. How much crap do you have in your pockets? I can do it in 4 without really trying.

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Re:watches? by MightyYar · 2014-07-01 15:10 · Score: 1

Yeah, it's much easier to put down your rod and make your way over to the cockpit to check the time.

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Re:watches? by MightyYar · 2014-07-01 15:18 · Score: 1

"Practical need" is a pretty low bar for dismissing something awesome. I'd have a hard time justifying most of my possessions based on "practical need".

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Re:watches? by iggymanz · 2014-07-02 17:21 · Score: 1

only done by those who have not entered the proper state of mind for fishing, where the sun alone is the timepiece.
Re:watches? by MightyYar · 2014-07-02 23:39 · Score: 1

Yes, I envy those people - but the reality is that I have a family with young kids and cannot just go and forget it all like that. I have to make due with "be back by dinner".

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:11 · Score: 2

The Woz is too pure to give in to petty brand based allegiances, even if he helped start one of those brands.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:11 · Score: 5, Insightful

Hi did you get the newsletter that Woz left Apple like 20 years ago and has nothing to do with the company anymore? And that he's a huge tech/gadget geek and doesn't care if the device is not Apple? And has even publicly spoken out against Apple?

Well now you do.

All smart watches suck by Murdoch5 · 2014-07-01 05:11 · Score: 1, Interesting

If you aren't happy with the current features of a smart watches then sit down and make your own, that's what I did, so instead of complaining I just solved my own issue.

Re:All smart watches suck by Arkh89 · 2014-07-01 05:20 · Score: 1

Or wait for the one from Microsoft...
// insert laughs here
Re:All smart watches suck by Jesus_666 · 2014-07-01 05:35 · Score: 3, Funny

It'd probably have a 5" display, quadrophonic sound and an octacore CPU and run an unmodified Windows RT. Due to weight concerns most of the battery had to be sacrificed, limiting its life to an etimated fifteen minutes - but no other smartwatch has both Office and HDMI and you can always use the USB port to hook it up to an external power source if you want to use it on the go. You see, Microsoft gets mobile devices.

Or they decide they actually want to make money and release a generic Android-based smartwatch. Their Nokia arm doesn't seem too hung up about reinforcing the Windows hegemony if it gets in the way of business.

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Re:All smart watches suck by Murdoch5 · 2014-07-01 05:46 · Score: 1

So true, if Microsoft actually makes a watch it will be train wreck. They have no concept on slim, power saving designs.
Re:All smart watches suck by suprcvic · 2014-07-01 06:06 · Score: 1

Because, you know, everybody is an engineer.
Re:All smart watches suck by Nyder · 2014-07-01 06:08 · Score: 1

If you aren't happy with the current features of a smart watches then sit down and make your own, that's what I did, so instead of complaining I just solved my own issue.
I just strap my cellphone onto my wrist.

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Re:All smart watches suck by ThatsDrDangerToYou · 2014-07-01 06:15 · Score: 1

If you aren't happy with the current features of a smart watches then sit down and make your own, that's what I did, so instead of complaining I just solved my own issue.
That's what I did too, years ago! ... but it really weighs heavily on my neck.
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Re:All smart watches suck by Murdoch5 · 2014-07-01 06:17 · Score: 1

You don't have to be an engineer to build a basic circuit, or write simple software.
Re:All smart watches suck by jon3k · 2014-07-01 06:18 · Score: 1

I'd love to see this...
Re:All smart watches suck by Murdoch5 · 2014-07-01 06:26 · Score: 1

I'd be happy to send you the layout, I'm open sourcing it when I'm done.
Re:All smart watches suck by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:30 · Score: 1

The smart watch they're talking about releasing looks really good and is supposed to work with platforms other than Windows. Don't limit yourself to information from sites with hate and ignorance problems like this one, and you might learn something.
Re:All smart watches suck by suprcvic · 2014-07-01 06:41 · Score: 1

No, but I own a small shop with a couple of rental computers and I'm seeing more and more (young) people who don't even know access the web on anything other than their smart phone let alone write software and build a circuit.
Re:All smart watches suck by Murdoch5 · 2014-07-01 06:46 · Score: 1

Fair enough but I don't think comparing electronically illiterate kids to engineers in fair. This actually backs on to the lack of quality of the school system but I'm going to not even touch that one.
Re:All smart watches suck by aliquis · 2014-07-01 07:14 · Score: 1

.. available in the best of colors: mustard.
Re:All smart watches suck by aliquis · 2014-07-01 07:16 · Score: 1

Heck screw that, I wish I said neon pink.
It was originally a "brown" reference regarding Apples view of the .. Zune, took a while to call back the name.
But a brown watch didn't seemed nasty enough. Now neon colors - They are still nasty!
Re:All smart watches suck by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 08:02 · Score: 0

You just made me realize that there is at least one advantage to being an amputee.
Can you imagine the computing horsepower you could squeeze into a prosthetic arm?
Re:All smart watches suck by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 12:57 · Score: 0

+5 fucking priceless.
Re:All smart watches suck by antdude · 2014-07-01 13:10 · Score: 1

Well, I am not an engineer. I do SQA test though! I'd like a smartwatch that doesn't require a phone and is like a PDA watch. I still wear an old school Casio Data Bank (DB) 150 watch that does schedule (very important), times, phone books (address books would be nice too), alarms, calculator, etc.

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Re:All smart watches suck by Bing+Tsher+E · 2014-07-01 13:14 · Score: 1

"More and more" was what he typed, not 'electronically illiterate kids.' In other words, a trend, not just a comment about a few kids.
I don't think we can simply blame 'the school system' for a whole culture that fosters what is happening.
Re:All smart watches suck by antdude · 2014-07-01 13:14 · Score: 1

Or in your big pockets, (bag/purse)s, etc.

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Re:All smart watches suck by Bing+Tsher+E · 2014-07-01 13:15 · Score: 1

sit down and make your own, that's what I did
I did, too, but I gave up because the wirewrap pins on the backplane were digging into my wrist and it hurt like hell.
Re:All smart watches suck by antdude · 2014-07-01 13:29 · Score: 1

10 HOME
20 PRINT "Hello World"
30 GOTO 20
Like that? :P

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Re:All smart watches suck by Murdoch5 · 2014-07-01 14:05 · Score: 1

I've designed my watch with the capability of expansion, so if you really wanted to write a module to do that you could.
Re:All smart watches suck by Murdoch5 · 2014-07-01 14:08 · Score: 1

LMAO +10 funny! That is such a wicked idea that it's worth doing for the shear stupidity and hilarity or it.
Re:All smart watches suck by Murdoch5 · 2014-07-01 14:09 · Score: 1

Haha well if you have to get an engineering degree to figure that out then switch jobs :P

I would even go as far to saw a basic / simple firmware.
Re:All smart watches suck by antdude · 2014-07-01 14:13 · Score: 1

Nah, I am just not a developer/engineering. I do like to break things though!

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Re:All smart watches suck by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 15:43 · Score: 0

LOL. Maybe it'll be good, maybe it won't, but some of us have 30 years of hearing Microsoft's pre-release hype for their next "me too" product to come out, only to see it die and wither on the vine. Innovation has never been what they are good at. They are good at buying an innovative company to quickly catch up in a market (then mismanage and crush the soul out of it later, but that is a different story for another day).
Re:All smart watches suck by Jesus_666 · 2014-07-01 21:19 · Score: 1

Microsoft's hardware isn't all bad - just think of their human interface devices, which are highly esteemed. Their reputation with mobile devices is much spottier, though, with the Zune probably being one of the better ones. Their smartwatch might be good (especially since they bought Nokia's mobile devices division who know how mobile devices work) but on the other hand Microsoft does have a history of shooting themselves in the foot with anything that fits in your hand but isn't a peripheral. That makes it easy to crack a few jokes about the device.

If Microsoft indeed does as you say (I don't know, I'm not in the market for a smartwatch) then I think the brainpower behind the watch comes more from Nokia than from Microsoft proper. Not that that's a bad thing. If Microsoft defers to its ex-Nokia engineers when it comes to mobile devices that's probably better for Microsoft Mobile, Microsoft prime and the quality of their mobile products. I, for one, would welcome more competent mobile competition from Microsoft. Competition is good.

And, for the record, I don't hate Microsoft's mobile products. I find them amusing because historically they have been the mobile market's comic relief character but I don't hate them.

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hero worship by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:13 · Score: 0

"...but just imagine being the one who bought Woz's used Gear---do you think they know?" ... Who cares? Hero worship of a CTO of a tech company known for it's patent trolling and walled gardens... what is the world coming to? It's not like "The Woz" is comparable to say Ghandi or Mother Theresa or FDR or someone of important. He just made flashy smartphones.

Re:hero worship by SecurityGuy · 2014-07-01 06:20 · Score: 1

Woz gets way more hero worship than I understand, but he left Apple WAY before they made flashy smartphones. Like 20 years before in the Apple II/Macintosh days.
Re:hero worship by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:48 · Score: 0

Woz has zero to with any of that: patent trolling and walled gardens.
Re:hero worship by cyberchondriac · 2014-07-01 08:10 · Score: 2

I have to agree. This makes slashdot sound like a bunch of One Direction groupies. Woz is a good dude and all, but seriously, no need to gush like a teenage girl.

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Re:hero worship by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 09:04 · Score: 0

Sigh. I remember when the point of trolling was to make the other guy look stupid, not yourself.
Re:hero worship by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 09:26 · Score: -1

Ahh, sorry, my mistake. I'm not an Apple groupie so I'm not up on their history. Instead of making flashy smartphones, he made overpriced personal computers that couldn't run the programs or games I wanted to play. I did have a Macintosh SE when I was younger ( he was around for that), and all I remember was thinking that $3,000 for a computer seemed a bit high, even with the discount my mother got as a teacher as part of a discount program offered to teachers.
Re:hero worship by butchersong · 2014-07-01 09:37 · Score: 1

Dude I'm sorry but... Woz would kick Ghandi, Mother Theresa and FDR's ass.
Re:hero worship by Man+On+Pink+Corner · 2014-07-01 14:01 · Score: 1

Probably so. Mahatma Gandhi advocated fighting the Nazis with a one-two knockout punch of surrender and mass suicide. Mother Theresa was a galactic douche with PR talents that you might expect from the love child of Oprah Winfrey and Gandalf. And FDR, well, about the best you can say about FDR is that he made World War II look like a lucky break for the US economy.
Woz? Um, well, I heard he was caught doing 115 MPH in a Prius. That's about the only bad thing anyone has ever said about him. Personally, I would have given him a trophy rather than a ticket, but that's probably why I'm not a cop.

OMG WOZ TOUCHED IT. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:17 · Score: 1

"So maybe the watch sucked, but just imagine being the one who bought Woz's used Gear---do you think they know?"

I am guessing we just need to be on the lookout for someone with a 24/7 erection and a sweaty useless smart watch.

Re:OMG WOZ TOUCHED IT. by NixieBunny · 2014-07-01 06:14 · Score: 2

I'm the guy who supplies Woz with his Nixie tube watches. I've had to repair a few of them after too many Segway polo matches. They get just as crusty as anyone else's watch.

I briefly thought about selling the broken parts on eBay, but it seemed a bit too squicky. Although you know the auction would end up on Reddit.

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Re:OMG WOZ TOUCHED IT. by kaatochacha · 2014-07-01 11:45 · Score: 1

Those watches are excellent! Great job!

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by gnasher719 · 2014-07-01 05:17 · Score: 2

Apple co-founder..."Galaxy Gear...worthless"

Well, "Apple co-founder buys Galaxy Gear watch" was news that made the Samsungphiles happy, so surely when the same Apple co-founder says the watch is worthless, that's just as newsworthy.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by MozeeToby · 2014-07-01 05:18 · Score: 2

I won't delve into the details, I'll just say that calling Woz an "Apple insider" is both misguided and unfair. He hasn't been part of the company in almost 3 decades and has many valid criticisms of the company and Jobs in particular.

This should interesting. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:19 · Score: 0

Most nerds love Woz but now he's chewing out an Android device.
Popcorn ready!

Lines to purchase new Apple products. by wisnoskij · 2014-07-01 05:20 · Score: 1

Seriously? He cannot get Apple to send him preview builds of their hardware?

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Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by FlyHelicopters · 2014-07-01 05:35 · Score: 2, Insightful

Apple does I'm sure... he is still a full time paid employee of Apple, receiving about $120K a year.
He doesn't actually do anything there, he just gets paid... well, because... :)
Woz likes to stand in line with everyone else and buy them because it makes him feel normal. He doesn't have Job's ego, and for that, I applaud him.
Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by wisnoskij · 2014-07-01 05:43 · Score: 0

Standing in line for an Ipad 8.5, while you have a box of unopened ones back at your mansion is not normal. It is just a way of looking for applause from the plebs.

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Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:15 · Score: -1

Apple does I'm sure... he is still a full time paid employee of Apple, receiving about $120K a year.
He doesn't actually do anything there, he just gets paid... well, because... :)
Woz likes to stand in line with everyone else and buy them because it makes him feel normal. He doesn't have Job's ego, and for that, I applaud him.
Doesn't have Job's ego? Er, sitting around collecting $120K/year to do basically nothing? Well, I suppose one could argue narcissistic over egotistical...
Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by baKanale · 2014-07-01 06:36 · Score: 2

So you're telling me that if somebody gave you a $120,000 yearly salary in return for doing absolutely nothing (or, to look at it another way, whatever you damn well please) you would turn them down? Because only a narcissist would take the money? "Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not a narcissist. I only accept gifts of rainbows, sunshine, and feelgood vibes."
Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by Cabriel · 2014-07-01 06:37 · Score: 1

Besides, what better way to make sure you know what the consumers are experiencing by making sure your gear (no pun) is acquired from the same place?
If Apple (or any company) gave him special supplies, maybe they might deliberately make his item somehow superior (whether through special hardware or software options or optimizations that aren't available for the general public)?
Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by jeffmflanagan · 2014-07-01 06:37 · Score: 2

> It is just a way of looking for applause from the plebs.

That's extremely cynical. Maybe you should talk to your therapist about your negativity, you might get more out of life if you were a less bitter person.

It's more likely that he just likes to spend time in line with tech enthusiasts.
Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:19 · Score: -1

Someone as rich as him does not sell used tech for a few hundred dollars on ebay. This is a shill piece to keep his Apple stock high. Apple are in freefall, with nothing interesting on the Horizon, investors are dumping stock, they need these shillers to help their cause. Woz being the most famous of all.
Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 08:43 · Score: -1

It's more likely that he just likes to spend time in line with tech enthusiasts.
No sane person likes to spend time in lines. He should really talk to a therapist about that.
Re:Lines to purchase new Apple products. by Plumpaquatsch · 2014-07-01 11:45 · Score: 1

Apple does I'm sure...

Yeah, Apple will give a blabber-mouth like Woz unreleased hardware. Sure.

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:21 · Score: 0

He still carries an iPhone. I'm sure it's not a happy coincidence.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:22 · Score: 0

Because he's had a history of being critical of Apple as well and does truly come across as non-biased. I read that old Jobs would get on his case about bad publicity for Apples new nick knack. If he always said everything Apple made was great, I'd agree with you, but he's regularly one of their harshest critics.

Woz is 1000% right... by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:23 · Score: 0

Smartwatches are an answer to a problem that simply doesn't exist. Hence they all fail.
This will be true for all brands including Apple.

Re:Woz is 1000% right... by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:53 · Score: 0

Why did wrist watches overtake pocket watches?

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Noah+Haders · 2014-07-01 05:24 · Score: 3, Interesting

Wiz is an infamous gadget hound. Go to youtube to see clips of him babbling over androids, google glass, whatever.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:26 · Score: -1

Have you heard that Steve Jobs died of ass cancer, and that the Apple fanbois have latched onto Woz as their new savior, evidenced by this very article, and posts like yours?

Well, now you have.

Galaxy Gear. Not worthless. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:27 · Score: 1

I had Null ROM up & running on my Galaxy Gear in less than half a day and I've been quite amused playing with it. Null probably wasn't available yet when he bought his.

While I don't find the argument for a smartwatch to be compelling, I do enjoy the convenience of reading text messages with the flick of my wrist, and, paired with my Moto X, I use voice commands to wake the phone up while it sits in my pocket, tell it who to dial, and then I can speak to someone Dick Tracy-like. The best Bluetooth hands-free (like the best camera) is the one you have with you and in place to use quickly & easily.

Consumers are fickle by Iniamyen · 2014-07-01 05:36 · Score: 3, Insightful

Wasn't it only a year or two ago about how we were congratulating ourselves on not having to wear watches, because hey, everyone's got a smart phone and you can just check the time on that.

I don't wear a watch day-to-day. When I do wear one, it's with a suit as a fashion accessory. And I seriously doubt smart watches will ever look classy. Flashy, yes. Classy, no.

It's pretty amazing how short the average consumer's attention span is. I guess I can't blame companies for gettin' while the gettin's good.

Re:Consumers are fickle by jeffmflanagan · 2014-07-01 06:40 · Score: 2

>Wasn't it only a year or two ago about how we were congratulating ourselves on not having to wear watches, >because hey, everyone's got a smart phone and you can just check the time on that.

That was obviously short-sighted and just plain dumb. And I say that as someone who made that very claim. I just didn't anticipate all the health tracking and messaging functionality that would become available in watches.

>I don't wear a watch day-to-day. When I do wear one, it's with a suit as a fashion accessory. And I seriously doubt smart watches will ever look classy. Flashy, yes. Classy, no.

Smarter people don't really care about a watch looking "classy" since that's just a euphemism for an embarrassing show of wealth. We want functionality that will enhance our lives.
Re:Consumers are fickle by gunner_von_diamond · 2014-07-01 07:23 · Score: 0

Smarter people don't really care about a watch looking "classy" since that's just a euphemism for an embarrassing show of wealth. We want functionality that will enhance our lives.
What does dressing nice have to do with intelligence? You're saying if you take pride in the way you dress you aren't a "smart person"? Sounds like you just have a self-image problem... A functional watch that doesn't fill the "fashion accessory" role will never be as popular as a "classy" watch.
Re:Consumers are fickle by jpkunst · 2014-07-05 22:36 · Score: 1

Smarter people don't really care about a watch looking "classy" since that's just a euphemism for an embarrassing show of wealth
"Classy" only equals "expensive" for people who don't have class.

It really is worthless. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:39 · Score: 1

This is a guy with a nixie tube watch.

http://static.iphonelife.com/sites/iphonelife.com/files/resize/u31369/WozWatch-695x463.jpg

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by SuricouRaven · 2014-07-01 05:40 · Score: 1, Informative

Jobs died of pancreatic cancer, not anal cancer. Mock him correctly, please. For example, you could remind everyone that he might still be around had he accepted some real treatment from actual doctors as soon as the cancer was diagnosed, rather than delayed for nine months trying some 'alternative medicine' nonsense - he went through several diets, accupuncture, herbal cures and some sort of enema-based detox regime before finally admitting that the cancer wasn't getting better and going for surgery - by which time it was too late.

He should use... by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 05:42 · Score: 0

...any form of iCrap lately...useless

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by electrosoccertux · 2014-07-01 06:08 · Score: 1

he was eternally tormented by the decision to remove user expandability in the Apple2

so, he started the brand and it was pure, and fought it when it became what he hated

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Ralph+Wiggam · 2014-07-01 06:13 · Score: 5, Informative

Wozniak is still an Apple employee with a salary of $120k/year and he still has a bunch of stock. I doubt he has much if any involvement in Apple operations, but saying "he has nothing to do with the company" is not true.

You are correct that he calls them like he sees them, regardless of brand. I generally love Samsung and have owned a bunch of their phones, but the Gear has no interest for me for exactly the reasons Woz states.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:16 · Score: 0

i'd expect that you'd not be so easily confused by Google and Samsung.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by christurkel · 2014-07-01 06:22 · Score: 0

Did you get the newsletter that Woz is still an Apple employee with an annual stipend of $120,000 andhe still owns shares in the company?

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by jeffmflanagan · 2014-07-01 06:25 · Score: 4, Insightful

This demonstrates the fact that people who are very smart in one area can mistake themselves for experts in an unrelated area where they're totally incompetent. Jobs over-estimation of his own abilities wound up killing him when he confidently went for fantasy-based fake medicine due to his total lack of expertise regarding medicine.

Woz is not that smart by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:29 · Score: 0

It probably would have been easier and gotten him a better deal if he just returned it. For a genius the guy lacks some common sense.

I don't get the point by sjbe · 2014-07-01 06:32 · Score: 1

Works a LOT better for what a smart watch is good for, critical Information display.

See that's the problem I have with watches generally. 99% of the time they provide me no information that I critically need that I cannot get from my surroundings or my smartphone. I don't need a clock to be available to me at the flip of a wrist except very rarely. My day is not scheduled that tightly and there almost always are at least 2 clocks within eye shot anywhere I usually go. Occasionally they are useful for things like flight navigation or diving where knowing the time immediately is really critical but that's rare for most of us. The most common use is for competitive running where time obviously matters. Furthermore I find wearing one uncomfortable. I don't like them bouncing around on my wrist and if I make it tight enough to avoid that it digs into my skin pretty good which is also uncomfortable.

The only thing I can think of a "smart watch" being useful for in my life would be basically what I could use a fitbit for right now. I really just don't see the point of them.

Re:I don't get the point by Jason+Levine · 2014-07-01 07:26 · Score: 1

I used to wear a watch all the time. I felt naked if I wasn't wearing one and would compulsively look at my wrist to see what time it was. Then I realized just what you said and I decided to try going without one. I haven't worn one in months except for one day where I knew I wouldn't have access to my smartphone and I was going to need to see what time it was. During that time, it felt just wrong to have this "thing" on my wrist. I don't miss my watch at all and if I needed to see something that a "smart watch" would show, I'll just look at my smart phone.

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Re:I don't get the point by BasilBrush · 2014-07-01 08:06 · Score: 0

99% of the time they provide me no information that I critically need that I cannot get from my surroundings or my smartphone. I don't need a clock to be available to me at the flip of a wrist except very rarely. My day is not scheduled that tightly and there almost always are at least 2 clocks within eye shot anywhere I usually go.
This is doubtless what the typical Victorian gentleman said about wrist watches when he had a perfectly good pocket watch on a chain. And yet wrist watches caught on, as an item worn by most men for a century or so.
For the last decade or two, they've gone out of favour. But they may well come back. But it won't be with any of the current smartwatches.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:41 · Score: 0

Did you get the newsletter that Woz is still an Apple employee with an annual stipend of $120,000 andhe still owns shares in the company?

Having an employee # and a paycheck would be valid points.

Being a shareholder doesn't mean shit, other than he's just like me and a few other million people who are also invested in a public company.

Wristwatches are generally anachronistic by sjbe · 2014-07-01 06:43 · Score: 1

Doing anything even remotely active, you don't necessarily have your cell phone in a handy spot: jogging, biking, swimming, sailing, fishing, etc.

Why would I actually need a wristwatch for any of those activities? Competitive running or navigation on a sailboat out of sight of land maybe but fishing? I don't know where you fish but I don't really want to know the time when I go fishing. The whole point is to not worry about it. My philosophy on fishing is that if you need to bait the hook you are missing the point.

The ONLY thing I can think of that a watch makes sense for is if you need to carry some sensors in a compact way ala fitbit or if you are doing some very niche activities where knowing the time immediately is critical. Otherwise they are simply redundant.

You also can snag a quick look at your watch without getting caught - much harder to do with a smartphone, and much less socially awkward.

As opposed to looking at one of the several clocks that is almost always in view? Hell I have 3 on the dashboard of my truck put there by the manufacturer. As I type this I have 2 on my monitor, one on my smartphone, one on the wall and there is another just around the corner. I cannot fathom why I would bother lugging around yet another redundant device.

Smart phones also aren't very pretty.

Neither are most watches that are actually affordable. Personally I don't really like to brag about the size of my bank account via jewelry but that's just me.

People would probably wear something on their wrist even without the time-telling feature - that is sort of a bonus.

Women maybe. Not most men in this country.

Re:Wristwatches are generally anachronistic by spire3661 · 2014-07-01 09:27 · Score: 1

"Neither are most watches that are actually affordable. Personally I don't really like to brag about the size of my bank account via jewelry but that's just me."

I paid $55 for my Guess brand watch with heavy stainless band FOURTEEN years ago. It has lasted longer than ANY other piece of tech i own with 2 battery changes. A good Chronometer is still a valuable and necessary tool in the Information Age. Get over your 'its like buggy whips' mentality.

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Re:Wristwatches are generally anachronistic by sjbe · 2014-07-01 11:04 · Score: 1

I paid $55 for my Guess brand watch with heavy stainless band FOURTEEN years ago. It has lasted longer than ANY other piece of tech i own with 2 battery changes.
If we are going to brag about our tech I own a pocket watch that is older than anyone reading this that still works and keeps good time. I own several wrist watches that are older than 95% of the people reading this too and most of them don't need any batteries. Watches of the mechanical and electromechanical kind are amazing bits of tech. I don't carry any of them with me on a regular basis however because doing so is a pointless exercise 99.9999% of the time. The only time I carry a watch is when I'm hiking far enough away from civilization that my phone no longer makes sense or if I'm doing some very specific fitness activities where size and weight matter greatly.

A good Chronometer is still a valuable and necessary tool in the Information Age.

That doesn't mean it has to come in wristwatch form. I guarantee my smartphone is a lot more useful and keeps more accurate time besides. If you wear a wristwatch it either means you are showing off your money or you have a fetish about knowing what time it is.

Get over your 'its like buggy whips' mentality.
I will when you convince me that wearing a wristwatch daily is anything but an anachronism. They're cool in the same way that a steam powered bicycle is cool. Awesome but not practical in today's world.
Re:Wristwatches are generally anachronistic by spire3661 · 2014-07-01 12:16 · Score: 1

You and I have VERY different ideas about practical. A wrist chronometer is a tool, that fact that you prefer another tool to do the job doesn't change that. If you choose to look down your nose at that so be it. Do you think i wear my dedicated SanDisk Clip MP3 player for showing off too? Or maybe its to save battery life on my pocket communicator/reference library. Not everyone is you, labeling a perfectly useful and practical tool an anachronism shows the limits of your imagination. Cellphones are not 'better' chronometers, they are different. My watch has a proven track record, i value THAT in a time tracking tool far more than an extensive list of other things it does.

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Re:Wristwatches are generally anachronistic by MightyYar · 2014-07-01 15:16 · Score: 1

Women maybe. Not most men in this country.
Every day, I see scads of men with earrings, necklaces, cuff links, ties, money clips, fancy shoes, fancy suits, etc. You can try to argue that men don't care about bling, but that is ridiculous. Watches as jewelry is no different than buying a nice shirt instead of something from Target, or even choosing the $20 Target shirt instead of the $15 one on the next rack. For those "mans man" people you seem to have in mind, go check out their pickup truck or gun.

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Showing off by sjbe · 2014-07-01 06:50 · Score: 1

And I seriously doubt smart watches will ever look classy.

See I think watches either look anachronistic or make you look like a showoff in most cases. There are a few niche use cases for wearing one but I really don't see the point most of the time. If the watch is expensive enough to be bling (read Rolex) then it isn't really for function - it's jewelry. Whatever function it serves is incidental to its real function of showing off. If the watch is cheap enough to be practical for uses other than showing then there no longer is a point to wearing it most of the time.

Re: Did the editor know...this is Google/Android t by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 06:53 · Score: 0

Although i like a good rant as much as the next nerd, facts are appreciated even more. Jobs lived way past the usual cut+poison expectations and you could easily attribute that to his lifestyle improvements. Conventional treatments for Jobs' cancer are no better than placebo and come with a lot of pain.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by icebike · 2014-07-01 06:54 · Score: 1, Troll

>> Apple co-founder..."Galaxy Gear...worthless"

Hmmm...I read that as "Apple insider says Google device bad." And...you were expecting?

Wos has used and praised lots of different Android gear.

Still there is something fishy about the whole story.

Multi-billionaire takes the time to sell something on ebay? Really? REALLY?
Even having one of his "people" do that would never pay for itself.
Why would he not just flip it into the trash, or give it to some kid, or donate it
to some museum with a signed letter of gifting, which would quickly raise its worth by a factor of 10 or 100.

He says its worthless, and then proves it isn't, and pockets the money? Really?
The whole story seems unbelievable.

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Salesmanship by necro81 · 2014-07-01 07:02 · Score: 2

By far, the Samsung Galaxy Gear, which The Woz says he sold on eBay after half a day's use. "It was so worthless and did so little that was convenient,"

Well jeeze, Woz, with salesmanship like that, I'm surprised you managed to sell it at all!

Re:Salesmanship by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 15:00 · Score: 0

By far, the Samsung Galaxy Gear, which The Woz says he sold on eBay after half a day's use. "It was so worthless and did so little that was convenient,"
Kind of like iTunes.
Re:Salesmanship by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-02 04:26 · Score: 0

My Galaxy fit is worth what I paid for it.
About 5 bucks, due to a bundle. But it does the same thing as many fit gadgets from other companies, plus email. Had I paid the full 200 for it, I might have issues. Especially since holding it up to my ear does nothing, as this model has no need for speakers...Woz bought the really expensive Dick Tracy model with speakers, camera, etc, which DOES suck from what I can tell.
Bundle it, folks.

Least Woz tried it by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:16 · Score: 0

Well it says something about a product when a tech enthusiast cannot find any use for it. What is missing so far with these watches is a use beyond a extension of the smart phone features. I will be interested to see what Apple does, but have my doubts that anything will really be a iPod or iPhone success from Apple in a watch. I have no doubt that Apple will create more interest, but weather enough find it useful and affordable is something yet to be determined.
I have not worn a watch for years, so for me, it would be a stretch to think I would find any watch useful enough to wear it. My smart phone is very useful and I would not buy a watch that basically does what my smart phone does. I am sure some will be like Woz and want to try that Dick Tracy watch to see if its everything they want. But like Woz, it most likely won't be and the form factor limits how much it can really do.

That alone by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:38 · Score: 0

Having gear worn/used/discarded by the Woz? Priceless! I was the guy who sold his mother a bottle of "Bug Off" anti-static spray as a Christmas Gift for the geek who has everything (back in 1982 or 1983 as I recall). :lol: Honest, this is true!

Nixie Watch by sciencewhiz · 2014-07-01 07:47 · Score: 1

I guess he went back to his Nixie Tube Watch.

Re:Nixie Watch by NixieBunny · 2014-07-01 13:07 · Score: 2

He wears his Nixie tube watch every day on the left wrist. His right wrist has held a variety of smartwatches, including an iPod Nano. (I make the Nixie watch, so I'd know.)

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Re:Nixie Watch by Bing+Tsher+E · 2014-07-01 13:20 · Score: 1

And I like the old test equipment you're probably chopping apart to get those nixie tubes for this year's novelty fad. Hope you're not wrecking a lot of good gear.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by BasilBrush · 2014-07-01 07:51 · Score: 0

Woz has been positive about Android in the past. Whilst he likes Apple products he does appreciate openness.

I can't say that this news is a surprise, but that's because Galaxy Gear is bad, not because Woz is biased against Android.

Legendary nerd? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 07:54 · Score: 0

He built a remote control only a PLC programmer could love...

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by BasilBrush · 2014-07-01 07:56 · Score: 0

Whilst I have no patience for people using alternative medicine over real medicine, it's over-stating to say that it killed him. He would most likely have still died had he gone for real medical treatment straight away.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by BasilBrush · 2014-07-01 07:59 · Score: 0

He might be rich, but he also has a lot of time on his hands. He doesn't NEED to wait in line personally to buy the latest Apple products, but he does.

Personally I think the brain damage when he crashed his plane might explain some of his behaviour.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 08:14 · Score: 0

Whilst I have no patience for people using alternative medicine over real medicine, it's over-stating to say that it killed him. He would most likely have still died had he gone for real medical treatment straight away.

Since you point out this fact, I question your ability to look down upon Jobs decision in this case, or anyone else choosing alternative medicine over "real" medicines, especially in scenarios where we want to label the "cure" as bombarding the human body with radioactive poison in a questionable effort to fight fire with fire.

Oh wait that's right. I almost forgot. Much like the legalized opium den we label the US industrial painkiller complex, radiation therapy is highly profitable. That explains the stupidity and ignorance in calling a poison a cure. Reminds me of the days when doctors were pimping their favorite cigarette brands.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 08:43 · Score: 0

Yep. Self confirmed POS verified.

My wife has one and loves it, for one reason. by smellsofbikes · 2014-07-01 08:46 · Score: 3, Interesting

There aren't any current cellphones that fit in the pockets of the sort of clothes she wears. Size zero/one fashion clothing often doesn't even have pockets, much less ones that'll fit the half-tablet-sized cellphones these days. She had an HP Veer, the size of a credit card, that she loved, until it died. So now she has the same smartwatch and has what she calls a GIANT cellphone in her purse or stuck in her desk at work, and takes calls using her watch.

Size zero clothing is probably not on Woz's radar, but there are people who want tiny connectivity.

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Re:My wife has one and loves it, for one reason. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 19:07 · Score: 0

Yep, my wife absolutely LOVES her gear. Her Note 3 sits in her h/bag while she serves customers, but she can answer her "watch" if the phone rings. She loves the Note 3 for the screen size for when she needs to look at stuff.
Re:My wife has one and loves it, for one reason. by AmiMoJo · 2014-07-02 00:05 · Score: 2

There aren't any current cellphones that fit in the pockets of the sort of clothes she wears.
I can think of only three possibilities:
1. Baywatch lifeguard
2. Bikini model
3. Playboy bunny
Well, I can think of more, but it's your wife dude so I'll shut up now :-)

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Re:My wife has one and loves it, for one reason. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-02 04:29 · Score: 0

My wife is not even remotely a size 1, and she has issues with pockets in women's clothing. It's the tradeoff...we get the pockets, they get greater variety than men.
Re:My wife has one and loves it, for one reason. by smellsofbikes · 2014-07-03 03:58 · Score: 1

She's a sometimes model whose non-modeling job also involves looking very professional. I'm not even allowed to look at the laundry for fear of destroying something by washing it wrong. She bought a ... shirt? blouse? I dunno, something you wear on the upper half of your body, the other day, and I was all "that's very pretty!" and she's all "it should be. It cost 800 euros." So, yeah, I don't go anywhere near her clothes. And clothes like that don't have pockets. It ruins the lines/aesthetic. Definitely not something Woz considers, nor would he have any reason to, but there are a whole bunch of people who do.
Even her painting-the-house pants have these microminiature pockets that you can fit, like, a credit card and a car key into. Whenever we go out I carry her wallet, because even that doesn't fit. Totally different clothing regime from my ten-pocket dungarees, where I could carry most of a toolkit for doing bicycle maintenance and still be able to sit down comfortably.

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by TheCarp · 2014-07-01 08:59 · Score: 1

I don't see what is so fishy about that. He was also a school teacher, you would assume the salary he makes at that was paltry compared to the money he has from Apple, why would he even show up for work if he doesn't need the money?

Pretty sure he puts on his pants in the morning like the rest of us, don't see whats so out of character about acting like a normal human being; especially when he has a reputation of being a down to earth guy rather than some playboy moneylover. If you had told me Steve Jobs had done this, I would be shocked. This doesn't really surprize me from the woz.

Its not exactly unusual either for a person to be frugal out of habbit rather than need, especially if it is a lifelong habbit. Using myself as an example, I will stand there comparing products over price and weight at the grocery store to save a few cents I can easily afford, but I seldom remember to turn off lights and save electricity.

Is it entirely rational? No, its just habbit.

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Did the editor know...this is Google/Android tech? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 09:04 · Score: 0

The Samsung Galaxy Gear was Samsung's go-it-alone smartwatch from 2013; not the Android Wear one released with Google last week. Just saying...

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Gear

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by cant_get_a_good_nick · 2014-07-01 09:24 · Score: 1

I agree totally with criticizing him for the alternative treatments. But you do have to remember that Pancreatic Cancer is tough, and Jobs had a particularly bad version of it. Yeah, he futzed away valuable time, once he decided on normal treatment he spent a metric-sh*t-ton of money on his treatment. I do wonder if he'd only started earlier what would have happened.

Look at Patrick Swayze for another example. Swayze was not a poor man, yet he succumbed to Pancreatic Cancer pretty quickly. Its a tough tough disease. Anything that fiercely attacks your ability to get energy and nutrients from food will get you fast.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Plumpaquatsch · 2014-07-01 09:47 · Score: 2

Hi did you get the newsletter that Woz left Apple like 20 years ago and has nothing to do with the company anymore? And that he's a huge tech/gadget geek and doesn't care if the device is not Apple? And has even publicly spoken out against Apple?

Well now you do.

Not to mention that every time he says something remotely bad about Apple or an Apple product, you can be sure to find a Slashdot story about it.

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 09:48 · Score: 0

Really?
The whole story seems unbelievable.

He seems like a down-to-earth guy. I got his number and called him up and spoke with him on the telephone once regarding issues related to the Apple ][+ around 1983 or so.

Re: Did the editor know...this is Google/Android t by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 09:59 · Score: 0

You mean the same galaxy gear that runs on Samsung's Tizen OS? THAT Google device?

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Kalriath · 2014-07-01 10:10 · Score: 1

Do you actually know how chemotherapy works? It doesn't "bombard the human body with radiation". The accelerator is calibrated and targeted to fire a very specific amount of radiation directly at an area only slightly larger than the tumour. Because cells are at their weakest during division, and cancer cells divide at an exponentially higher rate than regular cells, they are far more vulnerable than the healthy non-tumour area around them. Which means the healthy cells are largely unaffected by the radiation, while the cancer cells are killed because they are weaker.

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 10:42 · Score: 0

Do you actually know how chemotherapy works? It doesn't "bombard the human body with radiation". The accelerator is calibrated and targeted to fire a very specific amount of radiation directly at an area only slightly larger than the tumour. Because cells are at their weakest during division, and cancer cells divide at an exponentially higher rate than regular cells, they are far more vulnerable than the healthy non-tumour area around them. Which means the healthy cells are largely unaffected by the radiation, while the cancer cells are killed because they are weaker.

Do you actually know how chemotherapy works? Do you know that it is different from radiation therapy?

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 11:22 · Score: 0

The prognosis of pancreatic cancer is very poor. 85-90% of cases are not diagnosed until after they begin to metastatize. In those cases, life expectancy is typically 3-6 months. Assuming it's caught before spreading and treated aggressively, the 5-year mortatlity rate is about 80%. If I remember correctly, in Steve Jobs' case, it wasn't discovered until it had affected his liver so the year or so that he stuck around was actually a pretty damn good fight.

e-watches are just a way by jpellino · 2014-07-01 12:42 · Score: 1

of keeping you in that company's ecosystem every time you look at your watch.

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by JeffAtl · 2014-07-01 13:29 · Score: 1

Assuming it's caught before spreading and treated aggressively, the 5-year mortatlity rate is about 80%. If I remember correctly, in Steve Jobs' case, it wasn't discovered until it had affected his liver so the year or so that he stuck around was actually a pretty damn good fight.

You have all of that exactly backwards. Steve Jobs lived 8 years after his diagnosis. Jobs had a rare type of pancreatic cancer that grows very slowly and is much easier to treat.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by JeffAtl · 2014-07-01 13:31 · Score: 1

But you do have to remember that Pancreatic Cancer is tough, and Jobs had a particularly bad version of it.

No, that is completely backwards. Jobs had a rare type that was much easier to treat. It was nothing like the type that Swayze had. Jobs lived 8 years after his diagnosis.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 13:36 · Score: 0

Well /. is for tech discussion..

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Kalriath · 2014-07-01 14:06 · Score: 1

How amusing. I selected the wrong term. Why yes, however, the GP wasn't even talking about chemotherapy anyway so it's kind of a moot point.

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 14:17 · Score: 0

If by nothing you mean he's still on the Apple payroll and is heavily invested in the company, then sure, why not.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by hubie · 2014-07-01 15:32 · Score: 1

Yes, but somehow I think that his shareholdings are probably a little bit larger than most of the million of other shareholders. He probably has a little bit more sway in the shareholder voting than you and your million friends do as well.

Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by torsmo · 2014-07-01 17:33 · Score: 0

. . . its just habbit

Is a Hobbit's domesticated pet rabbit called a habbit?

The true story was stated first by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-01 17:45 · Score: 0

I believe Woz's initial statement more, that he "threw it out." I don't believe he sold it on eBay.
Woz being a good UC Berkeley graduate, most likely the Gear went in the compost pile./s

Re: Did the editor know...this is Google/Android t by romons · 2014-07-02 16:37 · Score: 1

Actually, the type of tumor Jobs had is typically survivable, at least according to a harvard medical school researcher. I was also going to state that he lived longer than most people with pancreatic cancer, but found out that he didn't have adenocarcinoma, which is the bad kind. He probably could have lived.

He tried to outsmart his cancer. Once he gave in, he did go to great lengths to survive, since he had a whipple procedure, a liver transplant, had his cancer sequenced, and got targeted chemotherapy.

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by romons · 2014-07-02 16:38 · Score: 1

Whilst I have no patience for people using alternative medicine over real medicine, it's over-stating to say that it killed him. He would most likely have still died had he gone for real medical treatment straight away.

Not according to this guy

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Re:Hey bigmouth by Kalriath · 2014-07-06 10:28 · Score: 1

Oh for fuck sake APK, fuck off.

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Re:Hey bigmouth by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-06 13:35 · Score: 0

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Hahahaha backup your bullshit by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-06 11:29 · Score: 0

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Re:Hahahaha backup your bullshit by Kalriath · 2014-07-06 11:48 · Score: 1

Backup WHAT bullshit?
Just fuck off.

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Re:Hahahaha backup your bullshit by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-06 12:29 · Score: 0

Obviously the link in the post you replied to stupid (where you can't prove apk wrong) + this one too http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... where he has you totally on the run from the 1st one and that new one.
Re:Hahahaha backup your bullshit by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-06 13:13 · Score: 0

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Re:Hahahaha backup your bullshit by Kalriath · 2014-07-06 13:49 · Score: 1

APK, no-one gives a shit about your hosts files. FUCK OFF.

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Re:Did the editor know...this is Google/Android te by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-06 12:50 · Score: 0

Man, you're lame Kalriath: You're caught in the act cheating the moderation system http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

Have you considered decaf? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-06 15:15 · Score: 0

APK, no-one gives a shit about your hosts files. FUCK OFF.

Wow. You surely do projecting it. Look at that foaming at the mouth rage out of you freak. Be careful. All that spittle flying out topping off your drool from your meds will damage your keyboard!

R O T F L M A O by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-06 15:17 · Score: 0

Hahahahahahahaha, that was classic

No. THIS was very amusing (at your expense) by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-06 16:26 · Score: 0

ROTFLMAO ("have you considered decaf?") http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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HOSTS MOD UP "how to secure smartphones": 2012 -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...
HOSTS MOD UP vs. botnet: 2012 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
HOSTS MOD UP vs. FaceBook b.s.: 2012 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
HOSTS MOD UP vs. SOPA act: 2012 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
HOSTS vs. TRACKING ONLINE BY ADVERTISERS & BETTER THAN GHOSTERY: 2012 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
HOSTS MOD UP:2011 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
HOSTS MOD UP ZEUSTRACKER:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
HOSTS MOD UP & OPERA HAUTE SECURE:2011 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
HOSTS MOD UP CAN DO SAME AS THE "CloudFlare" Server-Side service:2011 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
HOSTS MOD UP vs AT&T BANDWIDTH CAP:2011 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
BANNER ADS & BANDWIDTH:2011 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
HOSTS & PROTECT IP ACT:2011 http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
HOSTS and BGP +5 RATED (BEING HONEST):2010 http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
HOSTS FILE MOD UP FOR ANDROID MALWARE:2010 -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...
APK 20++ POINTS ON HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 (w/ facebook known bad sites blocked) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

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APK

P.S.=> See subject-line above: Tell us - How'd they taste? apk

"Eat your words" Kalriath (3 of 3)... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-09 09:16 · Score: 0

You're "opinion"'s outnumbered by a 57++:1 ratio in my favor in my upmodded posts on hosts (3 of 3):

HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://apple.slashdot.org/comm...
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
0.0.0.0 IN HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
Massive bennies of HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/c... (still says INSIGHTFUL)
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
APPLYING HOSTS TO DIFF. PLATFORM W/ TCP-IP STACK BASED ON BSD: 2008 -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...
2014 - Stopping slashdot beta redirect: -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
2014 - Stopping slashdot beta redirect #2: -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm...
2014 - Stopping slashdot beta redirect #3: -> http://politics.slashdot.org/c...
2014 - (Kalriath was caught downmodding this one after 3 days @ +1, he posted 3 days later, caught logging out & downmodding it - or sockpuppeting it) Microsoft Takes Down No-IP.com Domains & I blocked them via APK Hosts File Engine already -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

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APK

P.S.=> See subject-line above: Tell us - How'd they taste? apk

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