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Pseudonyms Now Allowed On Google+

An anonymous reader writes When Google+ launched, it received criticism across the internet for requiring that users register with their real names. Now, Google has finally relented and removed all restrictions on what usernames people are allowed to use. The company said, "We know you've been calling for this change for a while. We know that our names policy has been unclear, and this has led to some unnecessarily difficult experiences for some of our users. For this we apologize, and we hope that today's change is a step toward making Google+ the welcoming and inclusive place that we want it to be."

238 comments

  1. Back to the roots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until next time.

  2. Youtube Comments by exomondo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see the only major impact of this being that people can now leave pseudonymous comments on Youtube again.

    1. Re:Youtube Comments by sd4f · · Score: 5, Interesting

      After so long of not posting comments (i may have been able, but youtube just started annoying me too much to bother, with all these screens that desperately wanted to know who I am and create google+ accounts), I no longer care. They can keep their commenting system.

    2. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Same here. Sometimes I go to leave a comment on a youtube video but then it prompts me to set up a Google+ account.

      So I just don't comment instead.

    3. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think enforcement of this policy was anything special. Same with Facebook for that matter. What were they gonna do, check your driver's license?

    4. Re:Youtube Comments by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I see the only major impact of this being that people can now leave pseudonymous comments on Youtube again.

      I think you missed the big one: lots of people might actually start using Google+.

      Sure, lots of people already did. But lots of people did not. Some people just didn't like the blatant privacy violations.

    5. Re:Youtube Comments by exomondo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think you missed the big one: lots of people might actually start using Google+.

      I doubt it, it was unpopular before the real names policy and I don't see the reversion of that policy increasing it's popularity.

      Some people just didn't like the blatant privacy violations.

      Sorry I'm not really familiar with Google+ - outside of the necessity of it to make use of Google services and the incessant nagging from Google that I create one - but what privacy violations does this change rescind? I did a bit of a search and found this but AFAIK that is still in effect (or maybe it isnt?).

    6. Re:Youtube Comments by lord_mike · · Score: 4, Informative

      And Google Play comments, too...

    7. Re:Youtube Comments by Darinbob · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Google+ is not about a popularity contest. It's about being social without being on facebook, or keeping track of special interest groups (including celebreties). The only real problem with Google+ was that it wanted to tie you to other stupid services like youtube, without even letting you go slumming on a separate account. Google should have left it alone instead of trying to get a one-acount-fits-all login (trying too hard to be a facebook clone instead of being something better).

    8. Re:Youtube Comments by quarterbuck · · Score: 2

      Actually this probably means that people will use youtube again.
      It was a pain to set up an alias to comment or upload a video - even when you had an alias, it would keep prompting you to pick between them all the time. And if you chose to not log-in to a google account while using youtube, your search results changed and you could not create playlists (earlier you had a seperate youtube account on which you could create playlists). I like to watch british version of top gear, so I would often create playlists of those on youtube and then watch it on my internet connected TV. Now that I have to use a trace-able account, I no longer do - I don't want cable companies tracking my account and banning it permanently. Clearly, people who watch copyrighted content is not youtube's target audience, but I think there are many other scenarios where youtube-google tie-up is bad.

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    9. Re:Youtube Comments by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      I won't be using it - not directly - but I'll allow my profile to have a Google+ "page" now that it doesn't want to have my name associated with it.

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    10. Re:Youtube Comments by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sort off. what they do is send links asking if you know certain people and give the names. They also have a link for if they misidentified them.

      So some sorry sap will help them check your drivers license. It's probably someone who you worked with 10 years ago or who has seen you at a pub or something too. I get these all the time for random people in my area. I tend to shorten my name when signing up for crap and they ended up with my full name and I bet it was this exactly. I know the people they ask me if I know- they are geo-locating your ip or something to pass them around.

    11. Re:Youtube Comments by geekoid · · Score: 1, Informative

      Those people shouldn't be using any social media.

      I like G+ very few trolls and flamebaits. I've had some good conversations. It was nice being in a science thread and not here AGW denier bullshit, and actually discuss the science. Many other examples as well.

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    12. Re:Youtube Comments by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Not slumming is what made it great.

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    13. Re:Youtube Comments by Glarimore · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's no reason to be contributing to that pool of bile anyway. Youtube comments are notoriously atrocious.

    14. Re:Youtube Comments by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unlike Facebook, in that there is intelligence. The way I explain it (someone said it before me), Facebook is for keeping track of people I care about, Google+ is for keeping track of ideas/issues/things I care about. The intersection is very small.

      --
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    15. Re:Youtube Comments by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It was probably easier for them to tie all the data they collect to you with one account. That's what they seem to be after anyways, data.

    16. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Too little, too late in my case. I've managed to live without it for so long now, I won't be bothering.

    17. Re:Youtube Comments by butchersong · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I use my real name on G+ and never had a problem with that. I enjoy the conversations and try to think out my posts and be polite in my replies. Of course not everyone is but I've found the lack on anonymity contributed to a rather unique and convivial environment. Now, it completely pissed me off when they tried to force me to do the same on Youtube. I always tried to be polite on youtube as well but I don't want my real name linked to every obnoxious video I watch and comment on. Love it for G+, haven't used youtube comments since they tried to enforce the same policy.

    18. Re:Youtube Comments by fractoid · · Score: 2

      At least in my circle of friends, it was taking off pretty fast. We were all sick of Facebook's privacy bullshit and wanted something else to use that would supply the same service. We all dropped it pretty much straight away when they started pushing for real names.

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    19. Re:Youtube Comments by fractoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think that would have made that much difference to them, honestly. They already have pretty much all of your data.

      My issue with it was that while I've come to terms with Google knowing everything about me, it doesn't follow that I'm OK with everyone else knowing everything about me.

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      Rampant carbon sequestration destroyed the Dinosaurs' tropical paradise. I'm here to help repair the damage.
    20. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's no reason to be contributing to that pool of bile anyway. Youtube comments are notoriously atrocious.

      They got worse with the redesign, though.

      Old and busted: You could always look at page 1/2/3 of the comments or binary-search your way through the pages (pre-page-57 or post-page 57? pre-page 84 or post-page-84?) if a video that hadn't been relevant for ages became relevant. At 100 comments per page, all displayed in full, and popping tabs for each page with a bunch of middle-clicks, it was relatively easy to skim through the 99.99% of the shit to find the 0.01% you wanted
      New hotness: Some fucking UXtard goes for infinite scroll, and you have to click to expand subthreads, and then click to expand any comment longer than three lines in any subthread.

      Every time a UX designer fucks with something to make it more mobile-friendly, they make it less usable for both desktop and mobile users.

    21. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google+ is just more privacy-invading social media garbage. You can pretend all you want that it's completely different from Facebook, but it's more of the same trash.

    22. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly, people who watch copyrighted content is not youtube's target audience

      I'm not convinced of that.. Of course google would never admit it but afaict copyright infringment is a large part of what made and keeps youtube big. .

    23. Re:Youtube Comments by Blue+Stone · · Score: 0

      The whole G+ real-name crap kept me away but it did teach me something I wouldn't have otherwise known if I *had* started using the service:

      I can get along perfectly fine without Google +.

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    24. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He likes to pretend that he's a noble patrician while watching reruns of My Little Pony and the latest cat video.

    25. Re:Youtube Comments by znrt · · Score: 2

      Unlike Facebook, in that there is intelligence. The way I explain it (someone said it before me), Facebook is for keeping track of people I care about, Google+ is for keeping track of ideas/issues/things I care about. The intersection is very small.

      fb also throws random crap "you might care about" at you. the link is still the people (or "entities"), and the business model is still in these links. that's all what advertisers want: bunches of linked people.

      the very reason for the sick name policy thing was to convince advertisers that g+'s bunches were of real people, unlike fb where more than half of them are fake, meaning they could offer a "more valuable" bunch of linked people than fb. that was the only real difference between fb and g+, besides a slicker ui. that they now have backed down means it didn't work out, i guess, son now there'll be no substantial difference between fb and g+ at all. different tribes or market segments, maybe.

      it also means my g+ account is no longer banned, because naturally i told them straight away they could go fuck themselves the very moment they insisted in knowing better than me how i should be recognized on the net. lol, suckers.

    26. Re:Youtube Comments by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Honestly, the real name thing didn't bug me so much as the "vanity" url name they give me is "MyFullName" instead of "nickname" ... when I search for my nickname, I'm a significant portion of the results... I should have been able to get this.. with their old profile system, I had it.. now I still don't.

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      Michael J. Ryan - tracker1.info
    27. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You always could. It's not like they verified the names people used.

      What really needs to happen is for Google to remove the utterly stupid requirement of having a Google- account just to post on YouTube. I have had my YouTube account since '05 and I don't take kindly to them trying to force me into using their other services. In fact, it's probably illegal, what with the monopoly they have and all.

    28. Re:Youtube Comments by currently_awake · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The news here is Google has found they don't need you to give your real name anymore, that they have found other ways to get that without actually asking.

    29. Re:Youtube Comments by Black+LED · · Score: 1

      Ever since the Google+ marriage to YouTube if I click on a comment to see what it was in response to, it opens up a new tab and still doesn't show me the parent post. I'm using the latest version of Chromium and have YouTube whitelisted in my JavaScript blocker, so I don't know what the problem is.

    30. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's the other way around. Google tied YouTube to a worthless service like Google+. "Social" networking sites are purely a popularity contest for people who want to exaggerate or outright lie about their lives because they aren't actually capable of doing anything. YouTube fosters creativity and many people on it create good content.

    31. Re:Youtube Comments by itsme1234 · · Score: 1

      And Google Play RATINGS. If you used your real name on email and you had a not-so-common name you had good chances to have a review or rating on angry brids to come up in the first restuls when somebody googled you. WTF?

      In fact what does it mean "Pseudonyms Now Allowed", precisely? You could change your name anyway for like 3 times and yes, it was supposed to be your own name but of course there was no way to police this for normal accounts. Of course, the drawback was that if you wanted to comment on Play (or youtube) as John Doe you would still show (for people you communicate directly with) as John Doe in Hangouts, Mail, Drive (John Doe shared a document), etc.

      Mail you chould change but I think the others not. Anything changed here? Because if not the change is "meh...".

    32. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Besides, what google did was beyond stupid anyway. They would have already achieved that single account objective for majority of people had they played different cards. But no, let's make it the last thing people want to trust by deleting random accounts for spurious reasons and asking for documents.

    33. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't been able to do anything to change my fake name, of course I am using a bunch of add-ons with firefox for privacy (not exclusively for that reason). And they keep hounding me to give a damn cellphone number. But I haven't been hounded to create a Gaagle+ account, it will ask or suggest (when you attempt to log in) you could create an account and be up to date on "notified as to changes to videos and comments fed to your Gaagle+ account", or just keep using your old log-in.

      So I havent bothered with it, I would just go on for educational things, and make comments as to things I spotted or didn't see, I could careless about the garbage bin of idiocy that makes up 90% of youtube so I don't want to create an account with a company that seems to be in bed with the NSA and now is trying to do everything as PR to sucker people to join in.

    34. Re:Youtube Comments by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      I like G+ very few trolls and flamebaits. I've had some good conversations. It was nice being in a science thread and not here AGW denier bullshit, and actually discuss the science. Many other examples as well.

      That's a function of who is on your friends list, or who the community moderator is and how well they do their job, etc... etc... not of the host platform.

    35. Re:Youtube Comments by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      I think you missed the big one: lots of people might actually start using Google+.

      I doubt that lack of anonymous accounts hurt G+ all that much, despite the enormous amount of noise generated by a relatively small number of people over the issue. Google's insanely stupid "invitation only" method of signing up coupled with their very feature incomplete system at launch likely did far more harm than anything else. Google just doesn't seem to get social media, and their lackadaisical "benign neglect" management style and... unique approach to UI doesn't help either.

    36. Re:Youtube Comments by mpe · · Score: 2

      Google+ is not about a popularity contest. It's about being social without being on facebook, or keeping track of special interest groups (including celebreties).

      The irony being that plenty of "celebrities" are only known by their "pseudonym(s)" in the first place.

    37. Re:Youtube Comments by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      YouTube prompts if you want to use the site with your nickname or real name. You can also change this later in the channel switcher. I believe there has only been a short period of time when YouTube forced you to use your real name.

    38. Re: Youtube Comments by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      It's not a hipster thing. The term has been in use for quite a long time. It stands for "user experience".

    39. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the commenters on Youtube who posted under the names "Jebus H Christ" and "Farty McPeepants" with the new Google+ commenting system are now really pissed that they spent all their time and money getting a legal name change so they could use Google+ with such fake sounding names.

    40. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like slashdot is much better, you liberal statist. ;-)

    41. Re:Youtube Comments by satuon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I made a JavaScript script that auto-clicks the "Show more comments" button every second, and I would leave it for a while. It can easily uncover 2000-3000 comments. It makes Chrome use up all the RAM though, I can't believe how much RAM you need to display a few thousand lines of text.

    42. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe there has only been a short period of time when YouTube forced you to use your real name.

      It also only took a short time for them to delete the accounts of those of us who refused.

    43. Re: Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those of us who used to work with servers, UX is a HP product.

    44. Re:Youtube Comments by gnite · · Score: 1

      Actually yeah, at least in Poland facebook flagged a bunch of names as possibly fake and sent out requests for photos of a passport, id card, driver's license or something to prove your name.

    45. Re:Youtube Comments by horza · · Score: 3

      Same with me and Google Play for Android apps. I can't even give apps a * rating. Forget that.

      Phillip.

    46. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes Google+ is a great platform to make sure you can have your little AGW circlejerk continue uninterrupted from any inconvenient opposing views. Maybe you can join a Google+ circle to help you get over the persecution complex you have. When you go to the grocery store, do you look at the crowd of people and think that X number of them could be deniers who dare disagree with you?

    47. Re:Youtube Comments by horza · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The real-name G+ kept me away as I knew it was doomed. Many of my female friends use an alias, or a mis-spelled name, to avoid stalkers or getting hassled. Few of my guy friends would want to be on a service with no women on. Even I have 2 FB accounts, one for work friends and another for family. The fatal flaw, the one that killed various biometric companies as well as G+, is that in real life we are different people at different times. The person you are at work is not necessarily the person that is on a picnic with his family taking snaps of his loved ones or of wildlife.

      Phillip.

    48. Re: Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A really irritating, slow product that will likely never achieve posix.1-2008 compliance before the architecture it is bound to (itanium) dooms it to irrelevance.

    49. Re:Youtube Comments by coastwalker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The information on the web is steadily disappearing behind shit UI designs. So many information sites of one kind or another have gone all flash, all icons, all pictures, all randomly spread over the page like vomit and repeated at random intervals in random blocks of "stuff you must see".

      Fortunately slidy tiles will be out of fashion eventually and we can all laugh at the people who think they are cool as we should be doing now.

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    50. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's been possible the whole time for people who didn't merge their accounts. Coincidentally, that resulted in my Youtube pseudonym having its own G+ page.

    51. Re: Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and anyone who thinks "user experience" is a valid thing can die slowly and painfully in a fire.

    52. Re:Youtube Comments by AbRASiON · · Score: 2

      This man for president, seriously.
      Fuck those designers, fuck ALL of them. The internet in /general/ is getting worse for design, ever since tablets got popular, it's fucking gross and I'm sick of it.

    53. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Google banned my G+ account over RN I blocked their trackers at my firewall and on all of my devices, switched to cyanogen/PA without Google services, and moved my mail accounts. I still have a Google account that I occasionally use but they haven't made a cent off of me.

      For a lot of techies the romance was over. Google search and maps and stock android are the best in the business, but there's no reason to be dependent on them.

    54. Re:Youtube Comments by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Ironic you say those things.

      At start, Facebook required real names, was limited to university students at specific schools, you couldn't even invite people outside of there, and had useful features.

      On the other hand, getting a G+ invite was never difficult, they gave they'd give people like 20 a day.

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    55. Re:Youtube Comments by Alioth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole problem is UX designers exist. I don't want a user experience. If a user interface is giving me an experience, it's getting in the way of what I want to do. User interfaces should melt into the background and explicitly NOT give me an experience. I should barely notice the user interface.

      We need to get rid of UX designers and replace them with competent UI designers instead.

    56. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The person you are at work is not necessarily the person that is on a picnic with his family taking snaps of his loved ones or of wildlife.

      They tried to incorporate that into G+ through the use of circles, but with the real name policy in place it showed they were only willing to go halfway with it.

    57. Re: Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a hipster thing.

      "UI" was describing the task just fine until those pretentious asshats invaded. The term "UX" has been in use for exactly as long as the hipster bullshit has been on the scene. Chalk it up to "the X makes it edgy".

      Hipsters seem to like marketing more than being useful. Every stupid story about how the job market is "terrible" or "dying" or whatever just makes it clear to me how many hipsters there are and how many of them are going to soon starve to death for the benefit of all mankind.

    58. Re:Youtube Comments by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Had G+ launched into the same vacuum that Facebook did... you'd have a point. But they didn't.

      And sure, they eventually gave people large numbers of invites, but by then the damage had already been done.

    59. Re:Youtube Comments by dcollins117 · · Score: 1

      Youtube comments are notoriously atrocious.

      My experience is that Google took my fake name from YouTube and created a Google+ account with it. I can't really see how they can get butthurt about the use of a fake name on Google+ when I didn't sign up for, don't use, nor even want to use the service.

      That being said, YouTube comments work best when they are not taken seriously. There whole "redesign" of the comment section failed spectacularly because they didn't understand what motivates people to comment in the first place. It's supposed to be fun, not a pain in the ass.

    60. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still got mine, guess you were up to no good with yours.

    61. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used a pseudonym right from the beginning which Google never dinged. Every asshole in the world doesn't have a right to know my real name unless I want said asshole to know it...

      IOW it's about fucking time Google...

    62. Re:Youtube Comments by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      In fact, all of my posts that I have ever made on any Google service has been pseudonymous. I had an exchange of messages with Google over my names. They really, really, REALLY wanted to know my real name, and for me to use it on Google. I hemmed, and hawed, made some excuses, told a couple lies, and they weren't buying. My final message on the subject flat out stated that I've lived a long life, and in that time, I have made a lot of friends, and some enemies. Stated that I had NO INTENTION of putting my real identity online for those enemies to find. SOME OF THEM might just show up at my door, loaded for bear.

      They stopped bothering me, and they never deleted my account - so, I guess that one or more decision makers decided I had given a pretty good excuse.

      Never mind that the excuse is 80% or more bullshit. Of course I've made some enemies. But I don't really think that any of them would come shoot me. Or - - - - would they?

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    63. Re:Youtube Comments by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On this subject, you and I are in complete agreement. If I want an "experience", I'll put some music on, or a video, or a game. Almost nothing else on my computer should be an "experience" at all. Just serve up the information, and let me get to it, thank you very much. Didn't the world almost unanimously reject Clippy? Someone should have learned from Microsoft's mistake.

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    64. Re:Youtube Comments by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      On the flip side though, there are people who are victims of domestic abuse, are relocated witnesses, wish to make comment from within an oppressive regime, have been high profile victims of crime, or are just 'ordinary' famous. They also want to use the internet, and have good reasons not to want to 'go public'.

    65. Re:Youtube Comments by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      Circles are a good notion, and one I like. I don't mind using my real name, but even so - am still a _bit_ edgy about getting 'googled up' by a prospective employer as a result.
      However, I also know people who - for example - have had messy breakups with exes, and don't want said ex tracking them down again.

    66. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless Google decides to make YouTube accounts have the ability to post again, I don't see that happening. The complaint is that we even have to have a Google- account just to use YouTube. It had zero to do with the "real" name policy, which was always just a BS excuse for why Google royally fucked over YouTube users, because you could ALWAYS use a fake name in Google-.

    67. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The check is in the mail.

      -Larry

    68. Re:Youtube Comments by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      8:24am and already the boy aint right.

    69. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May I throw in another "me too"? C'mon UX "designers", lay off with the "user experience" stuff. Just give me the content, straight up.

    70. Re:Youtube Comments by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      The "youtube herp derp" chrome addon (a joke addon that literally replaces all the youtube comments with a stream of "herp" and "derp", allowing you to right click the comment to revert to normal) has...

      Really improved the youtube experience. I often would catch a glimpse of comments, and they were normally awful. Conspiratorial, racist, ludicrously political, wildly insulting, whatever. TERRIBLE.

      There are a couple videos with acceptable comments, but you mostly know those going in, and unherping them is trivial.

      Anyway, google+ doesn't stop that, and you've always been able to youtube account comment, and whatever. This is actually nice because I've never understood why google felt the need to copy suckerberg and his fucking palace of shit. Now I can actually use Google+- I'd never tolerate my real name returning everything I ever write about anything and to anyone to an employer. The idea that this is ok or reasonable is a laughable mid-2000s idea. We knew it sucked in the 80s, the 90s, and now. Good riddance to bad fucking rubbish.

    71. Re:Youtube Comments by fendragon · · Score: 1

      I think you missed the big one: lots of people might actually start using Google+.

      ...Some people just didn't like the blatant privacy violations.

      I might start using Google+, because the new system WILL allow me to use my real name at last.
      I didn't care for jumping though all the certification hoops required to prove that my usual (single) name is, in fact, real.

    72. Re:Youtube Comments by sudon't · · Score: 1

      I don't really understand why this is an issue. Neither Google nor Facebook ask for IDs. I don't use my real name on either service, or anywhere else on the internet. In fact, their insistence on "real names" kinda gives you some cover. If a potential employer ever asked me for my Facebook password, I can plausibly say that I have no Facebook account, which they can verify by searching under my real name.

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    73. Re:Youtube Comments by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      One wonders why google cared about cleaning up youtube comments in the first place. It may have had the level of discourse one would find in a crackhouse, but unlike a crackhouse, people aren't going to stumble out onto nearby sites like gmail and stab someone in the face for a quarter.

    74. Re:Youtube Comments by OutOnARock · · Score: 1


      You will never have to use your real name again

      I won't cum in your mouth.

      -Larry

      Finished that for ya.....

    75. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what the problem is.

      Anon above you knows what the problem is:

      Some fucking UXtard

    76. Re:Youtube Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still have a Google account that I occasionally use but they haven't made a cent off of me.

      When you use a Google account they make money off you.

    77. Re:Youtube Comments by Raenex · · Score: 2

      If a potential employer ever asked me for my Facebook password, I can plausibly say that I have no Facebook account, which they can verify by searching under my real name.

      If a potential employer asks for your Facebook password, the proper response is, "Fuck off."

    78. Re:Youtube Comments by ComputersKai · · Score: 1

      For the meantime though, we'll have to put up with "slidy-tiles" and "curvy-lines" on quite a few things today.

    79. Re:Youtube Comments by mtthwbrnd · · Score: 0

      Buy viagra today. I made $5000 a day selling viagra.

  3. In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Now that our pseudonym to single user identity resolution algorithm is reasonably accurate, go right ahead and make up a fake name."

    1. Re:In other words by Isomorphic · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yes. We are making this PR-friendly change because we don't need you to be logged-in in order to track you.

    2. Re:In other words by osu-neko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I already figured Google knows who I am and what all my aliases are anyhow. It's not Google I'm trying to keep from putting the pieces together, it's J. Random HR twerp who doesn't need to know my hobbies and kinks to determine if I'm qualified for the job.

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    3. Re:In other words by X0563511 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure. I don't care about Google knowing my name. I care about schmucks on Youtube knowing my name.

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    4. Re:In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course Google would probably be all too happy to tell J. Random HR Twerp about your hobbies and kinks for the right price.

    5. Re:In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

    6. Re:In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Were you pointing to your dick when you wrote that?

    7. Re:In other words by spikenerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I already figured Google knows who I am and what all my aliases are anyhow.

      You are absolutely right, but abandoning pseudonymity based on this reasoning reflects a common misunderstanding about how data mining works. Please don't give up so easily. You see, organizations that scrape and aggregate data from the web can only probabilistically connect all your aliases. That is, they only know with 97.3% certainty that YouTubeTrollKing7 is the same person as osu-neko, and they only know with 98.5% certainty that osu-neko is Brian Nekomori who attends Oregon State University (I made that up, by the way). That may not be the kind of privacy you would prefer, but it buys a lot of freedom, especially if everyone does it. You see, the Internet is kind of big, and man-hunts involve skewed data. (That is, most people are not the person they are looking for.) Since false-positives create big headaches for data miners, they tend to set their thresholds very high. For example, if they set their thresholds at 99.5%, those pseudonyms will not be recognized as connected to you.

      So, what does this buy you? Well, it's not enough that you can go around committing crimes and expect the FBI to never find you. But, on the other hand, they're going to have a hard time achieving a conviction if they cannot find any other supporting evidence. Furthermore, people just don't seem to understand the power of exponential decay that occurs with probabilities. The more pseudonyms you use, the more the probabilistic connections among them decay into the low 90's, making it extremely cumbersome to link them all together. Imagine having to filter through the 0.01% of Internet posts that happen to falsely connect with your pseudonymns with high probability! No one wants to do that, so guess what, you have some privacy.

      So, don't give up on pseudonymity. Yes, data mining is real, but no, it is not omniscient. Pseudonymity doesn't defeat it, but it makes them pay a dear price for finding you. Make them pay to know who you are. If everyone does it, the whole industry stops being so lucrative. The very reason data mining pays off so well right now is because of people who take the attitude that "it doesn't matter because they know anyway". So, stop it!

    8. Re:In other words by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Then why are you posting publicly?

      The problem is that you want to post publicly but you don't want anyone to know its you posting publicly.

      If you don't want people knowing about your kink, post it privately or not at all because for everything else, you're not one of the 0.001% of the population who is actually capable of keeping two separate identities that can't easily be linked.

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  4. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now Google+ is sure to become the popular destination it's always been destined to be! I'm going to go on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and Reddit and Tumblr and a site with Disqus and tell everyone it's time for Google+! Then I'll pull down my pants and tell all my friends on SnapChat!

    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to update your work history on LinkedIn with douchebaggery!

    2. Re:Finally! by digitalPhant0m · · Score: 1

      Google--

    3. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry. You are not pseudonymous until you can sign up for a new account via Tor without a telephone.
      Enjoy your google marketing drivel. SUCKERS.

    4. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sorry. You are not pseudonymous until you can sign up for a new account via Tor without a telephone.

      You can't?

    5. Re:Finally! by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      New accounts seem to require a phone number. Is there a way around that?

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  5. about time by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    The number of stalkers, kidnappers, and identity thefts just got slashed by them allowing fake names. It's about damn time. Jesus, Abraham Lincoln, and Hitler posted a comment on my Google+ page that they're very happy with the change as well.

  6. The frick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I spent more time than I care to admit going through the list of "People You May Know" and removing variations of "Thor Odinson", "Loki Laufeyson", "Kili Oakenshield", etc. What exactly will this decision change?

    1. Re:The frick? by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      You were pretty much always allowed to have an alias.

      I played one of the early games on the G+ platform, got quite involved in the community. It was fairly common for players to have multiple characters, which required multiple accounts, and there was no shortage of fake "real" names. For every John Michaels in that game, there was a Michael Johnson alongside them.

    2. Re:The frick? by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      In the early days of google+ there were reports of people losing their entire google account (not just google+) for signing up to google+ under something other than their real name. I can see why people would be reluctant to take that risk (however slight) with their main google account (throwaway accounts are another matter).

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    3. Re:The frick? by seebs · · Score: 1

      Someone I know had that happen to her even though she had never intentionally signed up for any part of google+. Something caused her account to get tied to it, then they nuked her stuff.

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    4. Re:The frick? by harryjohnston · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      I've been asked to sign up to Google+ for one reason or another a few times (and refused) and been signed up without being asked another few times. No promises, but the next time that happens I might not bother to delete the account.

      As it happens I do use my real name, but I don't see why I should have to prove it to anyone. (And people, mostly Americans, do sometimes assume that I made it up; if I recall correctly, the phrase used on the most recent occasion was "sexually explicit joke username".)

    5. Re:The frick? by satuon · · Score: 1

      Will they now restore the nuked accounts? Was her account restored later? Maybe they've restored it now.

    6. Re:The frick? by jafffacake · · Score: 1

      Will they now restore the nuked accounts? Was her account restored later? Maybe they've restored it now.

      Have you ever tried to contact Google? If you needed to discuss a problem with your account being shut down you would not find it easy. http://mashable.com/2011/07/18... He got his account back fairly quickly, but he would still have been much better off going nowhere near G+ !

    7. Re:The frick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, your real name is "Hairy Johnson"? LOL!

  7. Yeah by oldhack · · Score: 1

    That'll fix'em.

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  8. Bullshit + News = Pointless by danknight48 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    - The news Story = " removed all restrictions on what usernames people are allowed to use"
    - So i clicked "Edit your name:"
    - I enter "4D", in the name field

    Result = "Please fill in the name fields."

    Garbage news for a garbage product. Did any of the devs even think to "test it"?

    1. Re:Bullshit + News = Pointless by Thantik · · Score: 1

      Also uneditable is the "G+ URL" that they were allowing people to sign up for. What the hell good is editing my name, when the URL I was allowed to have ends up having my real name and completely unchangeable....

    2. Re:Bullshit + News = Pointless by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      The name can't be blank, so that's a restriction they didn't tell you about. It's not clear if they require both a first and last name from your post, so I can't call you a dumbass on that one. But you do have enough characters for a first and last name, which may make them required.

      From what you are describing, you are setting your "name" which, from the history of computers, has been first and last name. It sounds like they changed the policy either for names, which have a first and second part, or for usernames which you are not actually changing.

      Regardless, your story sounds like it has holes in it, and your petulance should be directed at Google. For a novelty, the slashdot summary is not incorrect, so there's that.

  9. Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've already been using my username instead of my real name since long ago....

  10. ..unnecessarily difficult experiences for some.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes,
    Unnecessarily difficult, because google either already knows who you are (via some other registered service(s) i.e. Adwords etc) or will link in a relationship to your choosen "Pseudonym" to your real name, web history and other online events later on anyway.

    So yeah google, what a stupid idea.

  11. I WON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I knew if I told google to fuck off, they would listen to me!

    Doesn't mean I want to be on G+ any more now than I did a year ago when I was "banned".

  12. that's why I use a fake name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so.. i'm Mishotaki on the internet... if I can't be only Mishotaki, my last name will be "-" and if it doesn't accept a symbol, it will be "dash"... so i still don't have my real name in google+

  13. They did that now? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    I haven't even noticed that pseudonyms were ever banned. Are you telling me the guy I talked with the other day wasn't the *actual* Adolf Hitler!?

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    1. Re:They did that now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Might have been. Did his IP resolve to Brazil?

    2. Re:They did that now? by penix1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No... No... No... No! Those are his clones. The REAL Adolph Hitler lives in Argentina...

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    3. Re:They did that now? by seebs · · Score: 2

      What they really banned wasn't "names which aren't yours" but "names which don't look like they are real names". There was no effort at all to enforce the accuracy of names unless they thought you were impersonating someone. But if you had a not-very-Western name, well, that was a possible problem. And once you got into the "we don't think that looks like a name" thing, they wanted real documentation of some sort.

      I never did find a way to make that happen, but eventually I talked to someone who knew someone who could put me in touch with a guy who could fix my account.

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    4. Re:They did that now? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      And once you got into the "we don't think that looks like a name" thing, they wanted real documentation of some sort.

      Well, they never asked *me* for anything, and I certainly did (and do) qualify for that category.

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    5. Re:They did that now? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      But if you had a not-very-Western name, well, that was a possible problem.

      Which is ironic because in their drive to be cool and international they insisted on showing me place names on Google Maps in alphabets that I couldn't read. They finally seem to have fixed that now at least.

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    6. Re:They did that now? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      But if you had a not-very-Western name, well, that was a possible problem.

      Yeah, I know of someone who had problems. His name: Fu Que.

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    7. Re:They did that now? by Chalnoth · · Score: 2

      Early-on, they banned quite a few users who had used names which Google's algorithms thought weren't really names. This was especially annoying for people who had decidedly non-English names. It's easy enough to find a number of articles from soon after the launch of Google+ that revolve around this issue.

  14. say it with flowers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kings crawl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHOyahv4hSE rock on /.

  15. Too little too late by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    nice gesture, but its too late now.

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  16. The Internet is meant to be anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Strong anonymity enforced through core network protocols and cryptography is the only way to restore the glory of the internet we grew up with.
    The more time passes the more obvious it gets.

    And no, Google + don't offer that any more than other services. It is thus evil.

    1. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by William+Baric · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Restore the glory of the Internet? You mean to go back to a time when most people posted on Usenet with their real name and email address as their signature? The time when even political discussions were civilized?

      From my point of view, anonymity was the worst thing that happened to the Internet.

    2. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by jeIIomizer · · Score: 2

      How horrible it is when people can say controversial things without people and employers holding it against them for all time. Privacy and anonymity are awful!

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    3. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by William+Baric · · Score: 0

      With "say controversial things" you mean trolling?

      Don't you think life would be better for you if you could assume who you are and what you think instead of having to hide and having to be a hypocrite? Yes, you will lose some superficial friends, a tyrannic employer might even fire you, but not having to live a lie, not feeling shame or fear for what we think, does feel good. Anyway, don't you think you should find friends or an employer who can appreciate you for who you are and what you have to offer instead of trying to please intolerant people who don't really give a shit about you and are only searching for yes-men?

      You can also look at it the other way. Do you like it when people lie to you in order to obtain some kind of friendship from you?

      There are reasons which could justify anonymity. But my guess is you never posted anything which could justify it.

    4. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by seebs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How do you know whether those were their "real name"? I knew a guy who once got interviewed for a newspaper, and they reported his name exactly as written; Tsu Dho Nimh.

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    5. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by jeIIomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With "say controversial things" you mean trolling?

      Is that seriously the only thing you can think of? Take controversial topics like child porn, pedophilia, etc. Get on the 'wrong' side of an argument and you may find yourself the target of an angry mob - perhaps literally.

      Don't you think life would be better for you if you could assume who you are and what you think instead of having to hide and having to be a hypocrite?

      Don't you think life would be better if the world was perfect? Well, it isn't. You risk not being hired, being fired, losing many opportunities, and being harassed by the government. You also chase away people who don't want any of the things I just listed to happen to them. Maybe you expect people to just ignore all that, but the fact is, people don't. Some people change and convince themselves that they're being themselves, even when they're not. I don't want to hang out with fake people.

      Besides, I like my privacy. I like knowing that it's difficult to tie many things to me.

      Do you like it when people lie to you in order to obtain some kind of friendship from you?

      No, that's why I like anonymity.

      But my guess is you never posted anything which could justify it.

      You base this on nothing. And since when is this just about me? I'm more afraid of others ceasing to produce insightful and thought provoking content, all in the name of stopping "trolling," something that only thin-skinned people have trouble dealing with anyway.

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    6. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by znrt · · Score: 1

      From my point of view, anonymity was the worst thing that happened to the Internet.

      no. it was massification, sadly. it's a bitter irony and it doesn't look like universal access (duh) will make us globally smarter anytime soon as it should have done, and we thought it would do.

      i've been on the "net" since even before internet, and never ever used my real name, anywhere, nor did most of the people i met. some did. i also never saw a reason to put my personal email address on usenet for everyone to collect. what for? i just shared it with people i wanted to exchange email with.

    7. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I've been thinking about this a lot, and I disagree.
      I think what needs to happen is forums need to charge for people to post. A penny a post.
      I think that will remove a lot of trolls right there.

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    8. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      Damn, I wish I'd thought of that.

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    9. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take controversial topics like child porn, pedophilia, etc. Get on the 'wrong' side of an argument and you may find yourself the target of an angry mob - perhaps literally.

      You can't even do a google search about child pornography laws without google accusing you of being a pedo (turn off adblock and see google tell you "warning - child abuse imagery is illegal" doh!). Forget all those flamewars, your permanent google record gets the pedo-flag set to true for innocuous shit like that. Nobody sane wants their real identity associated with that in this climate of fear, when even a kid who takes a picture of their own junk can be convicted of creating child pornography.

    10. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by GoCrazy · · Score: 1

      I have a unique name IRL, but I never thought using it was a problem because while I did have discussions online, I made a point to not say anything controversial or trollish. If only my own intentions were what mattered, right? A woman on Buzzfeed didn't think so. She disagreed with me, but disagreeing wasn't enough. She looked up where I worked and sent messages to my company saying that I was saying disgusting things on the internet. I got called into the HR to notify me about this. I didn't get in trouble, of course, because I never said anything "disgusting".

      But it did get me thinking about who would be so petty as to pull real life and real reputations into an online discussion where my arguement should be my words and not whether I'd stake my job on it.

      I don't know about you, but I don't go around my office discussing politics, sex, religion, or any polarizing topics. My opinions on those are something I try to keep separate from my professional relationships. My personality isn't defined by my opinions on topical subjects; I don't find myself to be hypocritical for not announcing my views to everyone I know. The aforementioned type of person, is someone who doesn't understand this. Someone who can't comprehend that not sharing does not mean lying. Someone who believes this so deeply that they take it upon themselves to "expose the truth" as a selfless act to save others.

      This actually sounds a lot like you. I make a point to stay away from people like you.

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    11. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The biggest jerks in life don't hide who they are and they will go after people who disagree with them with a passion not seen outside of churches. I don't have the time or energy to deal with such people. Posting anonymously lets me say my peace and move on without being stalked for the rest of my life by some blissfully ignorant idiot.

      Take this post for example. I've said my peace and will now move on. You can rant about it all you want and I don't have to listen to your mad ravings. Everyone is happy :)

    12. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people aren't "hiding" as much as "choosing to keep their work and personal lives separate." If my employer wants to hear my thoughts on European socialism in the 1960s when we're out at the bar some time I can make the choice to engage or not to. If I run aw website about European socialism under pseudonym it's not of my bosses business and it's unprofessional for him to ask or me to bring it up at the workplace.

    13. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by Chalnoth · · Score: 1

      It's easy to say that when you're not at risk for harassment. Internet can and does spill over into real life, and many people in marginalized groups or politically-oppressive areas do not feel safe posting under their real names.

      Implementing a real name policy, therefore, has the effect of silencing many voices of women, minorities, and people in politically-oppressive regimes.

      I don't believe for a moment that it has a significant impact on trollish behavior.

    14. Re:The Internet is meant to be anonymous by Raenex · · Score: 1

      Restore the glory of the Internet? You mean to go back to a time when most people posted on Usenet with their real name and email address as their signature? The time when even political discussions were civilized?

      What time was this? Because flamewars are as old as Usenet. I agree there's more garbage with anonymity, but let's not pretend it was some kind of utopia.

  17. What difference does it make? by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

    When all is said and done, what difference does it make? All you had to do before was make up a name that looked real, such as Rufus T. Firefly.

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    1. Re:What difference does it make? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Because I already have a pseudonym I would prefer to continue using?

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  18. I have an important response to that by CauseBy · · Score: 1

    Yo!

    1. Re:I have an important response to that by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      Hodor!

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  19. Re:Anonymous Coward for the WIN!! by Snufu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, "Anonymous Coward for the WIN!" should be the headline of this story.

  20. This is bad by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    having to use real names has made it far less trollish then other places.

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    1. Re:This is bad by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      having to use real names has made it far less trollish then other places.

      You're confusing inactivity with civility.

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    2. Re:This is bad by stoploss · · Score: 1

      having to use real names has made it far less trollish then other places.

      Enjoy yourself over there with the other people like you. Personally, I don't perceive why you would be trolled when you can just make an insular group of associates and block everyone else.

      FWIW, I don't think that having your identity known by others has influenced you to dial back your trolling on this site. Then again, given that it's you, I'm not surprised that you prefer a highly structured social construct with many regulations.

    3. Re:This is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      having to use real names has made it far less trollish then other places.

      You're confusing inactivity with civility.

      You're confusing knowledge with ignorance.

    4. Re:This is bad by geekoid · · Score: 0

      Example for the simple minded:
      I subscribe to NASA's G+. When NASA posts stuff on other social media. trolls come out. ON G+, it happens a lot less often.

      I communicate with a lot of people who aren't like me, except they prefer logical discussions. Unlike you, with you long history of fallacies logic and inaccurate claims.

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    5. Re:This is bad by geekoid · · Score: 2

      If the people who are inactive would otherwise troll, then good. Which may or may not be the case.
      My feed is plenty active. I think the fact that it doesn't toss crap in your face all the time, and doesn't have a bunch of of moving or annoying icons make people think it's not busy.
      Much like a single lane that's backed up appear to have a lot of drivers, but a four lane highway with twice as many cars doesn't seem to ahve a lot of drivers.

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    6. Re:This is bad by stoploss · · Score: 1

      "Fallacies (sic) logic and inaccurate claims"? Geekoid, I suggest you consider your own self-referential sig regarding the Dunning-Kruger effect, as once again it applies to your own posted content.

      I hope that was sufficiently clear to get through your addled mind.

      I can perceive why you might seek out others who are discussing matters logically, as observing those people may allow you to someday learn how to engage in logical discussion yourself.

    7. Re:This is bad by jargonburn · · Score: 1

      having to use real names has made it far less.

      FTFY. Full stop. Emphasis mine.

    8. Re:This is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it hasn't.

    9. Re:This is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you actually just showed is that G+ is massively unpopular, because trolls will troll anywhere there's an audience.

    10. Re:This is bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      having to use real names has made it far less trollish then other places.

      You're confusing inactivity with civility.

      And also 'than' with 'then'.

  21. Custom URL by corychristison · · Score: 1

    Google+ allows a custom URL.

    When I registered my business for Google Places (now part of Google My Business) it had an "easy" way to get on Google+, so I set it up as part of my profile.

    Then a few weeks later, they sent me an email saying I was preapproved for a custom G+ URL. It was not editable, and included the city of my business in it. So it ended up being around 40-45 characters long.

    I tried to change it, but it seems it is not possible. The one I want appears to be available. Its 11 characters long, and the same as my business' twitter handle, and FB URL.

    Why can't we change the custom URL!?

    1. Re:Custom URL by EvilIdler · · Score: 1

      YouTube allowed a custom nickname too, if you were persistent. But as much as I tried, it never let me actually pick the the first 5 attempts. I now have 6 alternate identities which are *exactly the same 11-letter name*. But the 6th one stuck, and YouTube still logs in with it. G+ I only use to stay in touch with a minimal subset of developers, so my real name isn't a problem. I was confused by circles disappearing and being replaced with communities, though. It's not just their policies which need some tweaks, but also their interfaces.

  22. Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Snufu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whistleblowing, witness protection, for example. For most other cases anonymity degenerates into a cesspool of behavior that is not accepted in normal society. See every unmoderated anonymous internet forum ever.

    Using real identities can vastly improve internet behavior. For example, a forum I frequent recently switched from anonymous posting to Facebook accounts. Overnoght the forum changed from endless spam and trolling to respectful discourse between actual people.

    1. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... says "Snufu"

    2. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by penix1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Using real identities can vastly improve internet behavior. For example, a forum I frequent recently switched from anonymous posting to Facebook accounts. Overnoght the forum changed from endless spam and trolling to respectful discourse between actual people.

      The same happened with my hometown paper but the reverse is true. They went from a moderated (meaning the spam and abusive posts were never posted since posts had to be pre-approved) with lots of insightful comments to almost no comments what-so-ever and the few that were commenting were doing so from fake FB accounts. So the noise ratio went way up on the comments they were getting. In short, they replaced their working moderation system with the FB system thinking the same way you do and got exactly the opposite effect.

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    3. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by jeIIomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Whistleblowing, witness protection, for example. For most other cases anonymity degenerates into a cesspool of behavior that is not accepted in normal society.

      People suppress their true nature in "normal society." "normal society" bores me to tears.

      Overnoght the forum changed from endless spam and trolling to respectful discourse between actual people.

      More like useless, non-controversial discourse. By tying everything to real names, you make it less likely that anyone will do anything controversial, even when it needs to be done. Who knows if a future employer will decide to not hire you because you said something they don't like, even if you thought it was completely innocuous?

      I'd rather deal with trolls and spam than have "respectful discourse" between fake people.

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    4. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Using real identities can vastly improve internet behavior.

      But it's not the only way, and it comes at a cost.

      behavior that is not accepted in normal society.

      Is keeping a list of every single thing I said behavior that is accepted in normal society? no, many would consider that stalking. But every forum has that option... click on my name and see everything I ever said. Maybe I don't want you inferring or assuming I have such and such opinion, and thus discounting what I'm saying just because something I said a long time ago that you disagree with. Or holding it against me economically (job), etc.

    5. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Using real identities will also mean that some people will decide to never comment, because they value their privacy. For every troll you discourage by using their "real name" (probably not their real name anyway, and they always make a new account or connect from a different IP), you'll lose many other people who would have given useful comments, but won't do so if they were going to be identifiable. You will never know what you're missing. Really, a comment should be evaluated regardless of who the person is, and the little bit of accountability added by having names is a poor shortcut for a proper moderation system.

      It accomplishes "look, we're doing something", and sure the trolls may diminish, but how many other people leave? I suppose you could assume that if people aren't willing to identify themselves, they must not have anything useful to say, but in my experience people who post anonymously sometimes are able to say things first-hand about issues that they otherwise wouldn't disclose at all. Sometimes that's pretty important stuff, like talking about their job or a competitor's better product. It doesn't have to be as dramatic as legal whistleblowing or witness protection.

    6. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by cjc25 · · Score: 1

      +1

    7. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by EvilIdler · · Score: 1

      I can't say YouTube changed at all while they only allowed real names (but not really; I somehow managed to avoid it, having a short nickname already). There may have been a lower total volume of posts, but the remaining comments were like the cesspool we all know and love.

    8. Re: Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not true, I have seen plenty of rednecks and other people openly lynching people, being racist, and generally heinous.

      Even on the internet, just type "am I beautiful" on YouTube to watch ugly women asking the public if they're beautiful, and check the comments of real names telling her how ugly she is.

    9. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by seebs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're failing to distinguish between anonymity and pseudonymity.

      You could argue that "seebs" isn't my "real name", although it's the only name I reliably answer to. But I've got ~30 years of history using this name, and nowhere near as much visible history under the name on my government ID, so this is the one I care about.

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    10. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by v1z · · Score: 1

      I whish I had modpoints, so I could mod you +1 ironic, mr Snufu.

    11. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i love this post because it speaks out against posting under pseudonyms with a pseudonym.

      its brilliant lets mod it insightful even. All the credibility in the world

    12. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the very worst forum poster I have ever seen, posts under his real name.

    13. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      Have you taken a look at Facebook posts lately?

      You seem to be confusing real identification with having actual moderation in an online forum.

    14. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The worst schmucks I've encountered on the net have usually been there with their real name. They don't have a risk of ruining their reputation.

    15. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can have some discourse here:
      http://hbjw7wjeoltskhol.onion/

    16. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off you cunt LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    17. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by mpe · · Score: 1

      For every troll you discourage by using their "real name" (probably not their real name anyway, and they always make a new account or connect from a different IP), you'll lose many other people who would have given useful comments, but won't do so if they were going to be identifiable.

      Or who don't want their comments in one forum linked to a completly different and unrelated forum.

    18. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by pantaril · · Score: 1

      Whistleblowing, witness protection, for example. For most other cases anonymity degenerates into a cesspool of behavior that is not accepted in normal society. See every unmoderated anonymous internet forum ever.

      We are talking about pseudoanonymity here, not anonymity. And we are talking about moderated discussion. I disagree that it is only usefull in special circumstances. Using real name is big security risk for anyone. Internet is vast and you never know what deranged individual will take interest in your person. If you provide your real name, you are opening yourself to several identity theft related attacks which can be very nasty. This is very old topic which was perfectly explored for example in this article Anonymity and privacy on the network from 1992.

    19. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... says "Anonymous Coward"

    20. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

      People behaving in a civil manner towards those they don't like is the hallmark of civilization. Barbarity is never far away.

      Let me guess: your politics are on the far left, correct? Because something bores you to tears, that means everyone has to change to suit you.

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    21. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Overnoght the forum changed from endless spam and trolling to respectful discourse between actual people

      More like a total bore fest of total dullards.

    22. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your real name is snufu?

    23. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by jeIIomizer · · Score: 2

      People behaving in a civil manner towards those they don't like is the hallmark of civilization.

      You assume (incorrectly) that there can't be "civil discourse" between people if they're anonymous. Other people have pointed out examples where real names improved nothing, and actually made things worse. If you want to speak to fake people who talk about nothing, by all means, require real names. Trolls are so scary, right?

      Barbarity is never far away.

      I assure you, civilization isn't going to collapse merely because people have anonymity and privacy, no matter how thin-skinned you may be, and no matter how many people say controversial-yet-insightful things who otherwise wouldn't have without said anonymity.

      Let me guess: your politics are on the far left, correct?

      What a terrible guess. I don't like your left-vs-right labels; they're utterly meaningless, because they let people make all sorts of assumptions about what you believe. People on the "left" don't have to be pro-choice, and people on the "right" don't have to be pro-life, etc. And yet all sorts of assumptions are made when you say you're part of the left or right. But it's all meaningless, the individual policies that a person supports and whether or not those policies are good is what matters, not whether or not they're considered to be "left" or "right."

      Because something bores you to tears, that means everyone has to change to suit you.

      What? You're the one trying to remove anonymity, which is already trivial to have to some extent when using the Internet. I'm not trying to control anyone. I just want people to have the _option_ to be anonymous, like they do right now.

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    24. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Kielistic · · Score: 1

      In my experience it is the "far left" that considers "controversial" discussion as trolling that needs to be banned. If anything I would say jellomizer is pushing back against the far left trying to force everything to suit them. There is no wanting anything to change to suit. The current set of affairs seems to suit jellomizer fine and they are expressing they don't want others to change that.

    25. Re:Anonymity makes sense for special cases. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is true, now I can googleplus myself, at last!. Anthony David Photography Greece

  23. This is excellent news... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    Miles O'Toole, Mike Hawke, Man-hung Long, Hubicha Kokov and Hugh G. Rection join me in applauding this long-overdue initiative.

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  24. Well, it still says my name violates policy by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 2

    When I attempt to go to Plus, it still says my account is flagged for name violation...apparently, it's not fixed for those already so-flagged.

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  25. Reviews next by butchersong · · Score: 1

    Maybe next they can begin allowing you to post reviews anonymously again from your main account. I use google+ quite a bit and post using my full name but I don't want a restaurant I frequent or my tire change place to see my full name in my reviews. I haven't posted a review since the removal of public facing anonymity.

    1. Re:Reviews next by ThisOrThat · · Score: 1

      Exactly, that is what I'm waiting for as well. I no longer post as reviews via google since the change. I agree that, for some reviews, you really don't need/want your full name attached.

  26. I hate google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have a google account and a youtube account(which got "upgraded" to google+ at some point). I didn't see any reason to link those together.
    Then a some point I clicked on the wrong button when logging on to youtube and I got another google+ account.
    When I realized what had happened, I removed the association to the google+ account again.

    Some time later I tried to associate the youtube account to my original google account but that isn't possible anymore and because of my attempts, I ended up with another 2 google+ accounts.
    I tried to follow different guides and videos on how to associate youtube with my original google account but that isn't possible anymore. By reading different guides, it seems like that might have been possible at some point.

    I can understand why they are trying to get rid of all the idiotic anonymous comments, but it has not helped. :)

  27. FU Google! by mtthwbrnd · · Score: 0

    That is all there is to say. F-U-C-K Y-O-U!

  28. Yay! by lord_mike · · Score: 1

    I can now finally get a Google+ account and do ratings on Android apps...

    Too bad it's a few years too late... Had google offered this when they launched Google+ they might have actually become a decent competitor to facebook. Now it's too late.

  29. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is so progressive, it only took them a few years to make Google+ a more positive place for everyone. I am waiting for the new version, Google++

  30. google what? by alphazulu0 · · Score: 1

    "Google+ is still around??" - everyone on slashdot

    az0

    1. Re:google what? by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      "Yes" - everyone on Slashdot who plays Ingress.

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  31. Google+ by Syntastic · · Score: 1

    Google+ is still requiring me to use a first last name so I don't know if this is something coming down the pipeline or what.

  32. Yup, they are trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess google based comments sections will turn into "little 4chan's", we all know the trolls needed more outlets to be anonymous assholes.

    1. Re:Yup, they are trolls by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      ...says the Anonymous Coward.

      (No, the irony is not lost on me, either.)

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    2. Re: Yup, they are trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea ironic because Slashdot is not a forum for actual discussion, it is a nest if trolls, which is why they permit the anonimity, and why I feel no need to place my information up for the random tech asshole to attack me. If I wanted to post something important I wouldn't post it here. There are places for anonimity like slashdot and 4chan, not every platform should do so. So no irony just nuance, learn the difference.

    3. Re: Yup, they are trolls by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      That wasn't actually what I was referring to.

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  33. Fine, if they tell you which are psuedonyms by Animats · · Score: 1

    You want, of course, to block all email from pseudonyms.

    1. Re:Fine, if they tell you which are psuedonyms by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      Suit yourself.

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  34. Just Call it ASSBOOK by Bob_Who · · Score: 1

    Where Google can wear their ass hats and kiss mine goodbye.

  35. What great news! by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everyone is chatting about it on Twitter and Facebook!

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  36. It's a trap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My first thought was that they came up with a method that obviated the need for you to supply the real name for their identity service. In fact, I presume they will be relying on their own backend real identity inferences as canonical rather than any user-supplied name data.

    They probably determined that they have a high probability of knowing your real name/identity regardless of what you enter.

  37. You have to put a '.' as a last name for mononyms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't display the period in the UX for you or others; just in the form dialog. Read the FAQ.

  38. Now everyone can use theri real name by radarskiy · · Score: 1

    The real name policy had rules that excluded people's real names. Now that the rules for what constitutes a real name don't matter everyone can be sure that their real names won't be excluded.

  39. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how do we really know this ....

  40. Yay! by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    There was much rejoicing among the Google+ users! All 6 of them!

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  41. Artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You haven't thought this through. There is no inherent reason why the topics that you frequent on G+ and on Youtube should be different, yet you don't mind your real name being associated with one but you do mind with the other. It's an artificial distinction and an artificial position, and it results in you having to avoid topics when on G+ despite them being of interest to you as proved by your viewing on Youtube.

    1. Re:Artificial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suppose Butchersong is a Brony. Do you really think he wants his youtube discussions on who's the hottest looking looking pony show up under his google plus profile where they could be seen by his friends, family or coworkers?

      Butchersong could be gay, an atheist, or otherwise have certain political or religious beliefs that are not considered mainstream in the community he lives in RL and could cause him personal harm should they be publicly linked to his real name.

      In the end it doesn't matter why Butchersong wants to protect his privacy, because its his right to do so. It sounds like you are making the "If you have nothing to hide" argument.

    2. Re:Artificial by butchersong · · Score: 1

      Pretty much that. I can understand the ACs position but I guess I consider youtube to be a less formal environment. I like the idea of certain settings linking to my true identity and others allowing me a little anonymity. Pushing me into the spotlight for all my interactions in google owned properties just got to feel too intrusive and uncomfortable to me... especially as those properties expand and continue to make up more and more of my online life.

  42. Welcoming and inclusive by BillX · · Score: 1

    "For this we apologize, and we hope that today's change is a step toward making Google+ the welcoming and inclusive place..."

    Neither here nor there, but this is the kind of language companies usually use just after being spanked for discriminatory-like* practices.

    * "Can't have my name attached to a post about controversial topic X in the current political climate whilst keeping my day job -> excluded from the service -> more controversial ideological groups more excluded -> discrimination!" ...I wonder if someone's trying to scratch up a case to this effect...

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  43. Re:You have to put a '.' as a last name for monony by Thantik · · Score: 1

    Just a heads up; it does indeed display the period. So mono-names are still second class citizens...

  44. Re:Anonymous Coward for the WIN!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know you're just saying that because you want to keep her for yourself.

  45. The Decendants of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Noel Coward all thank you.

  46. legal ramifications of identity verification by lkcl · · Score: 1

    i think one of two things happened, here. first is that it might have finally sunk in to google that even just *claiming* to have properly verified user identities leaves them open to lawsuits should they fail to have properly carried out the verification checks that other users *believe* they have carried out. every other service people *know* that you don't trust the username: for a service to claim that they have truly verified the identity of the individual behind the username is reprehensibly irresponsible.

    second is that they simply weren't getting enough people, so have quotes opened up the doors quotes.

  47. Too Little, Too Late by billstewart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google+ was trying to be a social network, and one of Google's execs (I think Eric?) also described it as an "identity service", which is something advertisers may want but slightly fewer than zero readers and writers actually wanted. No Facebook kill here, even if it does stick around longer than Orkut (which mainly took off because John Perry Barlow gave a bunch of invites to friends in Brazil, and Brazilians thought it was a great service for gossip.)

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    1. Re:Too Little, Too Late by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I'd be surprised if the vast majority of people on facebook, who google was attempting to court, cared what Eric called it. I'm guessing Zuckerberg has called his users more insulting terms, and no one really cared. Even if he did, so what? Facebook and google are the same products.

      I mean, google + didn't become the next facebook simply because it didn't become the next facebook to enough people. Lets not complicate it, people simply didn't switch. It wasn't some bullshit about real names, or youtube integration, or features facebook didn't have. Facebook just kept critical mass.

    2. Re:Too Little, Too Late by Raenex · · Score: 1

      I mean, google + didn't become the next facebook simply because it didn't become the next facebook to enough people. Lets not complicate it, people simply didn't switch. It wasn't some bullshit about real names, or youtube integration, or features facebook didn't have. Facebook just kept critical mass.

      Google obviously had an uphill battle trying to steal Facebook's thunder. It was stupid, then, to adopt a Real Name policy and enforce it like dicks instead of trying to differentiate themselves from Facebook.

      This ties into YouTube, too. Instead of trying to hamfist their existing userbase into real names and Google+, they could have softselled an automatic, no hassle Google+ account linked to your YouTube account, as is. Instead they antagonized their YouTube base, too. Corporate fuckhead thinking.

      Would it have mattered in the end? Who knows, but it was a stupid policy that only put up barriers, instead of trying to go after users who weren't interested in Facebook because of their focus on real names.

    3. Re: Too Little, Too Late by LinuxLuver · · Score: 1

      I use Google+ and very much prefer it to Facebook. It's easier to use and easier to find things of interest. Pseudonyms were hard to do anyway.... You just made them look like. Pseudo real name.

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  48. Ran out of real names? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess the reason they have done this is that every real name on the planet has been registered with Google+...

  49. Re:Anonymous Coward for the WIN!! by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

    Me FTW!

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  50. This is not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have for some time (probably a year or more) had a G+ account under a very obvious pseudonym.

  51. Might Finally Use Google+ Again by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    Almost everywhere online, I use a pseudonym. (Slashdot is an exception because I set up this account so long ago.) I don't want my Twitter/blog/etc accounts associated with my real name so I refused to use Google+. (I set up a Google+ Page with my pseudonym, but that's a pain because you can only follow people who first follow you.) I know some people had switched to pseudonyms, but I didn't want to risk losing my entire Google account over it. Now that they are allowing pseudonyms, I might start using Google+ again.

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  52. Too little, too late. by thevirtualcat · · Score: 2

    My problem with the real name policy wasn't using my real name on Google+. When I had a Facebook account, I used my real name there.

    My problem with the real name policy was that if you used Google+, it would retroactively change all your OTHER Google services to use your real name. Half of the people I use my GMail account to communicate with don't actually know my real name. Now, of course, I could get a Google+ account and continue using the same name I've been using on my GMail account for years.

    Except that I don't actually use GMail anymore.

    At the time, Google+ was sucking up other Google services and forcibly integrating them. I didn't see why GMail would be an exception to that in the long run and I wanted nothing to do with it.

    So it's great that they've removed the real name policy and are no longer agressively integrating their other services into it, but...

    Too little, too late. I've already left.

  53. When is this active? by davevt5 · · Score: 1

    I held off on selecting a custom user name as I knew this day would come. That said, is this active for all accounts? The post didn't say it was being rolled out over the coming days/weeks. When you go to Profit - About - Get URL you cannot select any name. Am I missing something here?

    FAQ still has old details: https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2676340?hl=en&topic=2400106

  54. Currently Account is "Not MyName" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I initially created my gmail account under this name and have not change it. Google Plus being a natural extension of this just accepted my name as "Not MyName" and so I never needed to create a pseudonym .

  55. Re:I did it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    4th

  56. ESR has the sads. by bmo · · Score: 1

    Eric S. Raymond is crying in his beer about his "hotgirl69" problem.

    Fuck'em.

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  57. Does not help unless they unlink the services. by sacbhale · · Score: 1

    This does not really make any difference if you use any other google services like gmail.
    I want my real name to show up as my gmail "from" address. But I want to use a pseudonym on the G+ profile. This pseudonym is one given to me by my friends but It does not make sense to have it on gmail or anywhere other than G+.
    In a way its a win for facebook. Since they are a different service and I don't use that account for any other services I can use whatever name over there.

    I guess I can always create a separate account for G+ vs Gmail. But that's too much hassle.

  58. Bullshit + News = Pointless by gcobb · · Score: 1

    And it still wants a date of birth and a gender (to create an account). If I am using an alias I am not going to provide either of those (the persona that I just created doesn't have a DOB or a gender).

    So, it is still useless and I won't be signing up.

  59. What great news! by rjmonna · · Score: 1

    "What names are allowed on Facebook? [...] The name you use should be your real name as it would be listed on your credit card, driver's license or student ID" https://www.facebook.com/help/...

  60. Welcome to Reality by vanyel · · Score: 1

    People were using them anyhow, regardless of the policy. Welcome to the real world...

  61. FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I call bullshit doesn't work, profile still suspended with pseudonym name. Only reason I care is for youtube as mentioned below.

  62. If you signed on to GMail from the beginning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've always been able to have a pseudonymous G+ page.