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6,000 Year Old Temple Unearthed In Ukraine
An anonymous reader writes A massive archaeological dig of an ancient Ukrainian village first begun in 2009 has yielded a discovery that I sort of hope ends up inspiring a video game: a massive, scary-sounding temple. From the article: "Inside the temple, archaeologists found the remains of eight clay platforms, which may have been used as altars, the finds suggested. A platform on the upper floor contains "numerous burnt bones of lamb, associated with sacrifice," write Burdo and Videiko, of the Institute of Archaeology of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine. The floors and walls of all five rooms on the upper floor were "decorated by red paint, which created [a] ceremonial atmosphere."
Maybe this is what Putin has been after.
Maybe this is what Putin has been after.
Based solely on the description provided, this would make for a great setting in D&D.
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Because of the bones? That's doesn't sound any scarier than the BBQ rib joint down the street.
Have gnu, will travel.
I mean the linking was christian science monitor -> live science. Why link the christian science monitor which was 1/3 of the info and not directly linking this :
http://www.livescience.com/483...
No seriously I want the editor tell me WHY ?
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Western media lost no time to put the blame on burying it squarely on Russia, with RT wasting no time declaring how the temple was originally built by Russian forces and how they will gladly provide archaeological aid to examine it. A convoy is already en route, of course it consists mostly of military material to ensure that any kind of necessary heavy duty equipment will be available. The west immediately complained and sent a contingent of a few thousand observers and advisers, just in case anything needs to be observed or anyone needs any kind of advice. After a few days of heated threats and accusations the only agreement is that nobody gets closer than 2 miles to the ruins until some sort of agreement can be achieved.
Ruins? Oh, right, a stray artillery strike hit the temple. In a rare case of unity both sides immediately agreed on who is to blame: THE OTHER SIDE!
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...immeditately declared that the temple was obvious built by Russians and demanded Ukraine return it.
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ive rooms on the upper floor were "decorated by red paint,
Run!!!!!!
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You seem completely confused about military behavior by national demographics. You're thinking of either Muslims or Southeast Asian communists. Russians, on the other hand, have a distinct reverence for history. For example, when the Bolsheveks took St Petersburg they rather famously protected the Winter Palace and the Hermitage from any kind of vandalism.
...were they able to disarm the poison darts, large bowling ball and swinging scythes?
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Since we're reversing things, I think it's safer to say "In Soviet Ukraine, ancient temple inhumes you."
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Archeologists have a prejudice that every ancient building is a religious temple. They shy away from secular uses. When was the last time you heard about an ancient discovery that was toy, or a a bracelet that did not give the wearer a connection to the Gods?
So, I'll throw. From what I read so far, it could be a bar.
Or a brothel. Hmm, that's back to worshiping...
No, he's thinking of the US military's insistence on bulldozing an airfield well into the protected archeological zone of Babylon, destroying (IIRC) an unexcavated mound and a minor temple in the process. (Then to add insult to injury, they abandoned the project because it wasn't needed, something they were told well before starting work.).
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Could anyone explain the last sentence to me? What has this discovery to do with Putin? Seriously ...
And you must not be thinking of the Russians famously defecating in the hallways of the Czechoslovak National Museum after ransacking it and destroying what they could not steal in 1967.
Tell me about reverence by the Russians for anything other than vodka.
OOPS, 1968. Fat fingers strike again.
Wow! They found a temple at the dawn of Earth's Creation!
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There are pictures on the Live Science site. There's a link to it somewhere above in one of the posts.
The building was made of wood and mud, so there's not a lot of "inside the temple" to be seen. Lots of small items in the photos, though.
Without a shirt on.
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Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
It's not like the natives wouldn't do it themselves. Their neighbors in Syria have been at it ever since the civil war started.
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I assume that Russian archaeologists have found proof that ancient Ukraine actually worshiped the Sun-god Poo-ten, who was granted an eternal right to return when He saw fit.
To reach the hall, you could navigate the roof and descend from the awnings
Coincidentally, the earliest known stone villages appeared in Turkey ~12,000 years ago, they had no streets and the houses had no doors, they were all squashed together as one big flat building, people entered individual homes by navigating the roof and descending through a hole into their "cubicle". They also had a habit of burying dead relatives in the living room. Similar architecture and burial practices were common across the N. Hemisphere for the next 10,000yrs.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
So they bilt this not only in one day but the very day after the earth was craterd? I don't think.
Haven't read TFA but I do know Roman battalions advanced by marching for a few days, stopping at a strategic point, and proceed to turn a nearby forest into a 3 storey fort in a single day. The forts were all of the same design and required ~5,000 trees to build, each man was an expert at a specific task. Reinforcements moved from fort to fort and signal towers were set up in between so that there was a visual link along the entire path. Today, we call this strategy a "supply line".
The Romans did a similar thing building up their Navy with spectacular speed when circumstances required, it was a classic "assembly line production" that existed 2000yrs before Henry Ford "invented" it. They also stole the boat design from the Carthaginians who had kindly numbered all the individual planks for them (no IP lawyers back then).
For a modern army or even a well organised militia, erecting a fake ruin in a day is definitely doable, so it boils down to motivation, which both sides have in spades.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
Personally I think they are both "good men" in the sense that their heart is in the right place, but it's certainly not unheard of for good men to go to war.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
The difference between a sacrificial altar and a butcher shop / BBQ joint is the words people say when they're there, and the article says that culture didn't have writing. If the person in charge asks the customers what favors they want from the gods, it's a temple; if they ask whether you want regular or extra crispy, it's a BBQ joint, and in some cultures they're going to thank the gods for the life of the animal even if it's a BBQ joint. In a temple, it's more likely that some parts of the animal will get burned instead of eaten, and in a BBQ joint, it's more likely that there'll be spices on the meat, and maybe priests get paid a bigger share than a butcher and cook, but none of those are universal across known cultures.
Also, the article says it was a two-story building; just because it's underground millennia later doesn't mean it was underground at the time.
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The difference, of course, is that Czechoslovakia was never a part of Russia in any way, shape or form
Except for the thousands of square miles of Czech territory annexed by the Soviet Union in 1945.
just cuz you can build something in a day doesn't mean you could build it in a day, then bury it for a thousand years!
For example, when the Bolsheveks took St Petersburg they rather famously protected the Winter Palace and the Hermitage from any kind of vandalism.
Well that's lovely. I'm glad they protected buildings while murdering so many, ya know, people.
You seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the commies demolished a large number of churches of great achitectonic and historical importance during their terror reign. And that's not the thing of the past it seems - just recently Russians (i.e. the Russian Orthodox Church) have irreversibly destroyed ancient mural paintings of the German St.Katharina Church in Arnau (KÃnigsberg area, today occupied by Russia). Kirche Arnau - News. The Russians only seem to value history that suits them, otherwise they are behaving like vandals.
They wanted to flatten Stonehenge during WW2.
As others of that culture were. Um, guys, is it unreasonable of me to not assume that they burnt them due to plague, but rather that they were burnt down by invaders, and there was no one left to live there?
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It is not a temple at all, just a shoarma restaurant for Vikings.
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Don't be so sure about that.
In the sacrificial rites of the ancient Greeks only some parts of the slaughtered animals were consecrated to the gods (the fat and a few other small parts) while the rest were properly roasted and consumed, with spices and all I suppose and wine.
And this was not only true for the Greek, the Aztec did the same ... just that they preferred humans instead of oxen or lambs. I'm curious on how human shoarma may taste.
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