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Scientists Discover a Virus That Changes the Brain To "Make Humans More Stupid"

concertina226 writes that researchers have found a virus that appears to reduce people’s thinking power and attention span. "Scientists at the Johns Hopkins Medical School and the University of Nebraska have discovered an algae virus that makes us more stupid by infecting our brains. The researchers were conducting a completely unrelated study into throat microbes when they realized that DNA in the throats of healthy people matched the DNA of a chlorovirus virus known as ATCV-1. ATCV-1 is a virus that infects the green algae found in freshwater lakes and ponds. It had previously been thought to be non-infectious to humans, but the scientists found that it actually affects cognitive functions in the brain by shortening attention span and causing a decrease in spatial awareness. For the first time ever, the researchers proved that microorganisms have the ability to trigger delicate physiological changes to the human body, without launching a full-blown attack on the human immune system."

275 comments

  1. Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fox News

    1. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      "MSNBC"

      There. Fixed that for you.

    2. Re:Virus Name by darrellg1 · · Score: 0

      U.S. Govt.

    3. Re:Virus Name by fred911 · · Score: 0, Troll

      The Palin Syndrome

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    4. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bushitis

    5. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot

    6. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be jealous that I got first post.

    7. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      I can understand the confusion, but the effect was to make the brain "more stupid", not "less smart".
      It's a different assumption on the base level of intelligence.

    8. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although the symptoms of this virus are very similar to Rabies, the very widespread nature of this illness makes Rabies seem tame in comparison.

    9. Re: Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sonya Gandhi

    10. Re:Virus Name by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think a comment rating of "Redundant" is even funnier in this case.

    11. Re:Virus Name by The+Ickle+Jones · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can we just agree that all the news stations are incredibly retarded?

    12. Re:Virus Name by PPH · · Score: 1

      Miley Cyrus.

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      Have gnu, will travel.
    13. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Palin Syndrome

      a.k.a "The Palindrome" :)

    14. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, we cannot. We cannot because it isn't true.

    15. Re:Virus Name by The+Ickle+Jones · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why isn't it true? From what I've seen, they all offer their own flavor of propaganda, fluff pieces, and a pro-mass-surveillance (though they occasionally put on someone who is slightly opposed to it) agenda.

    16. Re:Virus Name by alex67500 · · Score: 2

      In Europe, football has replaced religion for that particular matter...

    17. Re:Virus Name by asylumx · · Score: 2

      The "MSNBC" virus was found to be much less infectious because the majority of the population is not exposed to it.

    18. Re:Virus Name by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      You must be a particularly stupid libertarian to fail to realize that the Republicans are just as totalitarian as the Democrats.

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      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    19. Re:Virus Name by dywolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which one peddles lies about death panels, calls scientists liars, has a psychatrist who diagnoses the President on air, and says slavery and jim crow werent so bad?

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      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    20. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      JoeBiden Syndrome

    21. Re:Virus Name by dywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      See? That's what we call Projection which is a form of denial of reality.

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      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    22. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stupid libertarian

      Tautology spotted.

    23. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, so you're a coward who lets other people take risks, then try and steal the benefits.

      BTW, please look up the definition of "liberalism", it doesn't mean anything close to what fox news tells you it does.

    24. Re:Virus Name by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Quit projecting, mate. It's no one else's fault that you're too scared to leave your parents' basement.

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    25. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No. We cannot.

      "All X are the same" is a disinformation meme. A comfortable lie that lets you disengage your participation and rationalize your poor choices. If you believe this, you are being influenced by someone else. Think for yourself.

      This doesn't excuse the actions of whatever "liberal" counterpart you're imagining but Fox News is demonstrably, objectively worse than it's counterparts. If you don't' acknowledge this, you are part of the problem.

      "All X are the same" is the same train of thought that gives homeopathy consideration against legitimate medicine. Dowsing vs geologic exploration. Creationism vs evolution. Religion vs Science. Republicans vs Democrats. These things aren't the same and the fact that someone has conned you in to evaluating them as legitimate counterparts is the end game. Once you believe this, you've lost.

      We can evaluate the major news networks on their own without false equivalence. Evaluated on it's own, Fox News is quite obviously extreme-right win propaganda masquerading as a news show. Anyone with two braincells to rub together should know this without much investigation. Lets all grow up, OK?

    26. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why isn't it true? From what I've seen, they all offer their own flavor of propaganda, fluff pieces, and a pro-mass-surveillance (though they occasionally put on someone who is slightly opposed to it) agenda.

      At least you could provide a few examples. Here, let me start you off:
      1) Fox News
      2) MSNBC
      3) Slashdot

    27. Re:Virus Name by CauseBy · · Score: 0

      Came here to say this.

      Religion doesn't actually make people stupid but it does attract stupid people and it does cause smarter people to think less. There are nuggets of wisdom in religion but they are hidden inside piles of elephant crap, and the same wisdom is available elsewhere without the crap.

    28. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally I'd vote for calling it 'organized religion'.

    29. Re:Virus Name by The+Ickle+Jones · · Score: 1

      We were speaking of television news, were we not?

    30. Re:Virus Name by The+Ickle+Jones · · Score: 1

      "All X are the same" is a disinformation meme.

      No, it's a straw man on your part. I did not say they were the same.

    31. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, well, it's a bipartisan totalitarianism - so there!

    32. Re:Virus Name by PraiseBob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People who watch no news of any kind, are more informed about current events than viewers of Fox News. For sure you can expect certain kinds of distortion for left and right wing biases from every station, but Fox News takes viewers several steps beyond political slant, to full on fabrications that suit their storyline.

    33. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Religion? { [football] , [Democrats] , [republicans], [Americans] } delete as per slashdot user preference

    34. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you compare actual politics, you'll realize the liberals of today are the conservative of yesterday. I'm dead serious. Think about it.

    35. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least Joe Biden is entertaining. Palin is a complete and total idiot.

    36. Re:Virus Name by Crypto+Cavedweller · · Score: 0

      Limbaugh Syndrome

    37. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, yes you did. If I have to go back and quote you that makes you twice the dumbass in my book.

      You said all news stations were incredibly retarded. Did you not?

    38. Re:Virus Name by sudon't · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's well known that Fox is the worst source of TV news in the US, but the others aren't great either. Even with NPR, which always tops the survey you're thinking of, (in terms of listeners being better informed), you still have to be able to read between the lines a bit. There's also a bit of self-selection going on in that NPR listeners tend to already be better educated than consumers of television news. And there's a lot of news that even NPR doesn't cover - although by carrying the BBC, some of those gaps are filled in. But educated people are more likely to get their news from many sources.

      People who get all their news from television are not going to be well-informed, whatever the station. Fox is a different animal altogether.

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      -- sudon't

      Air-ride Equipped

    39. Re:Virus Name by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      You do realize of course that this country was founded on Liberalism right? Thomas Jefferson was about as much of a "Liberal" as you could POSSIBLY get. I mean he essentially channeled Locke word for word.

      Is it actually Liberalism you hate? and not Socialism, Statism, Left-wing pseudo-Marxism, etc?

    40. Re:Virus Name by ldconfig · · Score: 1

      ALL of them are about keeping the 99% mad at each other (left right crap) so we don't gang up on the real bad guys RICH PEOPLE!

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      The spelling and grammar police can kiss my ass
    41. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say that as if the other stations haven't engaged in fabrication, including high-level political fabrication... They should be held to a higher standard.

    42. Re:Virus Name by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Really? I guess that explains why MSNBC is ranked just slightly higher than tabloid journalism.

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    43. Re:Virus Name by The+Ickle+Jones · · Score: 1

      "Can we just agree that all the news stations are incredibly retarded?"
      "Can we just agree that all the news stations are incredibly retarded?"
      "Can we just agree that all the news stations are incredibly retarded?"

      There, I quoted it three times. I did not say exactly how "incredibly retarded" each of them were, just that they're all "incredibly retarded." That does not mean they are all the exact same in all ways, and any such interpretation is unreasonable.

    44. Re:Virus Name by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Fox is objectively worse then MSNBC, or any other news show.
      There is a reason it can't be called News in Canada. Why Rupert change what the show is depending on the court case. Sometime sit's news, and sometime sit's entertainment.

      Which isn't to say MSNBC can't be better.
      AS far a political reporting goes, NPR is the best.
      Yeah, yeah, someone is going to scream liberal, but I have been paying attention to the questions they ask any politician, and the difficulty of the question is the same for any politician.

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    45. Re: Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both fixed that for you too.

    46. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just knew this post was going to be here. Great minds think a like.. and none of them are on Fox

    47. Re:Virus Name by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      I was thinking, Facebook

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      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
    48. Re: Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Boys! Boys! Stop fighting.. You're both faggots.

    49. Re:Virus Name by AaronLS · · Score: 2

      They've done this study twice a few years apart. Ask people non-objective questions that have factual answers, then find out which stations they watch. Perhaps a false correlation, but it is a pretty strong indicator. Maybe stupid people are drawn to Fox, and it's not Fox that's misinforming them?

      http://news-beta.slashdot.org/...

    50. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obvious troll is obvious.

    51. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Death panels are true, read the docs yourself.

    52. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh, so this explains the other article on exam cheating in India.

    53. Re:Virus Name by pitchpipe · · Score: 1

      Go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog.
      To Ida Amin: I'm a idiot.
      Dog, as a devil deified, lived as a god.
      Solo gigolos

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      Look where all this talking got us, baby.
    54. Re: Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, I have a multipurpose list of people I think have this infection.

    55. Re:Virus Name by zeroryoko1974 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, that Fox News anchor Dan Rather who fabricated that story about Bush was a terrible guy. Oh wait, he was on CBS

    56. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why limit it to television? Is only television news biased, or is that the one that best fits your argument?

    57. Re:Virus Name by The+Ickle+Jones · · Score: 1

      No, because it started out with Fox News and MSNBC being mentioned. I thought that would be obvious.

      Is only television news biased, or is that the one that best fits your argument?

      No on the former, and no on the latter. Do you want to expand it simply because it best fits your argument? I thought not.

    58. Re:Virus Name by speaker4thedead · · Score: 1

      Mad Sarah Beyond the Palindrome!

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    59. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you want to expand it simply because it best fits your argument?

      60% of Americans get news from online sources. Online news outranks newspapers, as well as radio news and magazines. Somehow you want to pretend it doesn't exist, and/or it's not just as biased?

      How ignorant of you.

    60. Re:Virus Name by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      Yes, they are true. We've had them for a very long time. The problem was that the Republicans liked the death panels that were for-profit and benefited from killing you, the ones run by the government weren't paid to kill the poor and undesirables, to they were labeled "bad".

      Or have you never heard of the HMOs that denied treatment, resulting in the death of a person? Good thing we limited the liability of the private death panels to the value of the treatment denied.

    61. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want a non stupid news show then by all means watch Last Week Tonight. It's former Daily Show staff member John Oliver on HBO asking "Hey, what if a news show did investigative journalism?" And its wonderful.

    62. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Objectively" - Your personal opinion on something is not "objective".

      It's funny you go after the sole conservative news agency, yet MSNBC, CNN, NPR, The Daily Show, and so on are just as sensationalist. They just do it to suit your agenda. Blinders much?

    63. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    64. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I remember when Fox made up a story about a truck exploding when hit, complete to pyrotechnics to make it happen.

      Oh, wait, that wasn't Fox.

      I remember a story about some mysterious comments about Bush that someone found completely intact in a dumpster, that turned out to be done on a modern word processor, but were nevertheless, "Fake, but accurate."

      Oh, wait, that wasn't Fox.

      I remember when a Fox anchor called for a former politician to be raped and assaulted.

      Oh, wait, that wasn't Fox.

      I don't know what you "well know," but I do know when I was deployed: Fox was reasonably factual if you ignored the opinion shows, the BBC was accurate but had a British perspective (obviously), Al Jazeera was surprisingly balanced and informative, CNN was enemy propaganda, and PMSDNC was full retardery.

    65. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't fabricate the story, he was duped in to believing and broadcasting it. Surprised FOX hasn't hired him yet.

    66. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PMSDNC is full retard. If you believe otherwise, you are, too.

    67. Re:Virus Name by cthutu · · Score: 0

      I was thinking Republicans

    68. Re:Virus Name by tuxgeek · · Score: 1

      Can we just agree that all the news stations are incredibly retarded?

      No, there are varying degrees of retardation.

      Degrees of Retardation:
      (1)"That is ONE stupid son-of-a-bitch"
      ...
      (10)Moron in the corner drooling on himself and blaming Obama for everything wrong in this world since the beginning of time

      Fox News and those that watch it, are below the bottom degree of Stupid
      Somewhere around 11 or 12

      Hope that helps ..

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      "Suppose you were an idiot...and suppose you were a member of Congress...but I repeat myself." Mark Twain
    69. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did Slashdot become news? I thought this was just a link to TFA. Why not add Drudge to the list of "News sites"?

    70. Re:Virus Name by LienRag · · Score: 1

      Yeah, yeah, someone is going to scream liberal, but I have been paying attention to the questions they ask any politician, and the difficulty of the question is the same for any politician.

      Another proof that they are filthy liberals...
      Any respectable journalist know that it's unpatriotic to embarrass a fellow conservative!

    71. Re:Virus Name by dywolf · · Score: 1

      The law specifically prohibits the creation of "death panels" as part of its implementation.
      Insurance companies and HMOs however have had death panels for years.

      Again: the right takes something that is true about themselves and falsely accuses the other side of supporting it, while hoping no one notices their hypocrisy.

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    72. Re:Virus Name by dywolf · · Score: 1

      Southern Democrats who are the same conservatives that now make up the Tea Party. But lets be honest, those laws were a bipartisan affair; the differentiating line seperating those who supported and those who opposed was geographical, not party. Learn some history nub.

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    73. Re:Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Not the GP]

      You do realize of course that this country was founded on Liberalism right? Thomas Jefferson was about as much of a "Liberal" as you could POSSIBLY get. I mean he essentially channeled Locke word for word.

      In much the same way that the word "gay" is almost never used with the same meaning it had at the time of our founding, so goes "liberal". The liberalism of Thomas Jefferson and the liberalism of Ezra Klein have precious little in common.

      - T

  2. Old News by gaboalonso · · Score: 1

    Read this last week on other outlets. Anyway, this would explain the behavior of some of my peers and acquaintances. Makes sense.

    1. Re:Old News by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      It also explains why this news appeared on Slashdot one week late.

    2. Re:Old News by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

      Where did you read this last week? Just curious cause I'm always looking for other news sources.

    3. Re:Old News by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Or you aren't thinking it through because it's infecting you.

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    4. Re:Old News by gaboalonso · · Score: 1

      Where did you read this last week? Just curious cause I'm always looking for other news sources.

      Let me google that for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=virus+par... Second hit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci...

  3. Brain Slugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    EOM

  4. All well and good, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How do we fix it?!

    1. Re:All well and good, but... by thieh · · Score: 1

      Natural selection?

    2. Re: All well and good, but... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1, Troll

      Eat more real food and less carrageenan?

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    3. Re: All well and good, but... by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Where exactly does the water for the Capital building (Congress) come from? Has anyone checked into this?

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    4. Re: All well and good, but... by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      Where exactly does the water for the Capital building (Congress) come from? Has anyone checked into this?

      It's well known that they use Deer Park bottled water (almost a million dollars a year worth). Have you ever tried that crap? How can it not be infected.

    5. Re: All well and good, but... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Your comment is both funny and scary insightful at the same time.

    6. Re: All well and good, but... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Carrageenan by definition is real food, edible substance obtained from an animal. That is NOT the problem with the american diet.

    7. Re: All well and good, but... by oldmac31310 · · Score: 2

      It is not from an animal.

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    8. Re: All well and good, but... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      from a plant. oooo, that changes everything doesn't it. No, it doesn't, still a food by definition

    9. Re: All well and good, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know but I do know where all the water that comes out the other end goes - on you and I .

    10. Re: All well and good, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Carrageen is indeed a food. However, it is Mastocarpus stellatus, an alga and thus neither plant nor animal. So GP was right, and you are wrong to assert it is from a plant (actually wrong twice, counting your earlier assertion that it's from an animal). Quoting from Oceanlink:

      Algae are part of the Kingdom Protista, which means that they are neither plants nor animals.

      You can get the same information from Wikipedia, or from seaweed.ie, among many others.

    11. Re: All well and good, but... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Nonsense, it's in domain Archaeplastida which are plants

    12. Re: All well and good, but... by bmo · · Score: 1

      Eat more real food and less carrageenan?

      It is real food, and as a Rhode Islander, I'm officially offended.

      http://quahog.org/factsfolklor...

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      BMO

    13. Re: All well and good, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Iggy,

      Next time try the internet before guessing both animal and plant, both wrong -- seaweeds are domain Eukaryota.

      However, the *SUBJECT* is about avoiding toxins from fresh-water algae (which are already known to harbor all sorts of toxins); whereas carrageenan is extracted from salt-water seaweeds.

  5. Hack it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Change the payload to make it make us smarter, or cure diseases of the brain. Similar to what they've done with HIV.

    1. Re:Hack it! by AqD · · Score: 1

      No need of that. You become smarter when others are made dumber!

    2. Re:Hack it! by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

      No, he doesn't, and neither do you.

    3. Re:Hack it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some potential there but it is probably harder to improve it than it is to start breaking things.

  6. Virus Name by stinkydog · · Score: 3, Funny

    That is an insult to Pond Scum everywhere.

    SD

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  7. First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For the first time ever, the researchers proved that microorganisms have the ability to trigger delicate physiological changes to the human body, without launching a full-blown attack on the human immune system.

    The first? What about Toxoplasma gondii ?

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    1. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Toxo isn't a problem and it doesn't affect people at all. It's actually a cure. A cure for *not* loving cats.

    2. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That doesn't make you stupid though. It makes you take risks. Which could be the same thing.
      It's something that comes with cat ownership and the thrill of living in a house with a tornado of fur and razorblades.

    3. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Informative

      Cat ownership is actually just a minor factor - the feces of an infected cat are infectious only after a certain period of time, and cleaning the litter once a day removes the cysts before they get any chance to infect anyone. Furthermore, there's only a limited period during which a cat can excrete infectious feces, only a few weeks of its entire life. So the combined probability of your cat getting infected, excreting infectious feces, those feces staying in the litter, and you getting infected is really, really small.

      Anyway, I was referring to mental processes being altered by microorganisms that don't get significant immune response, which is what this discovery seems to be about. If you read it again, it wasn't specifically about people being "made stupid".

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    4. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Oh, crap. Not "this discovery", but "this claim" (the sentence I quoted).

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    5. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And enjoying the stench of stale cat piss. Don't forget that.

    6. Re:First time? by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That doesn't explain the high prevalence of toxo antibodies in some human populations. CDC estimates about 20% of the USA population has been affected by toxo at some time in their life. Toxo is a very prevalent parasite, suggesting that its modes of transmission are a lot more effective than parent post implies.

      There is anecdotal evidence that women who choose to live with multiple cats are often polyamorous or blatantly promiscuous, take risks with social norms that lead to frequent loss of jobs, and are exceptionally tolerant of the stench of cat piss. Rats that have been infected with toxo have been shown to become more daring than the average rat, and to be attracted to the odor of cat piss.

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    7. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Except that I was specifically talking about the impact of cat ownership on your chance of getting infected. Between the fact that you can catch it from a pathway going through your neighbor's cat (and the outside environment) and the fact that Toxoplasma also inhabits pigs, sheep, and other mammals, those 20% seem perfectly understandable.

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    8. Re:First time? by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you live with a woman who has lots of cats and some of the indicators of toxo, then-- because she is likely to be a risk taker-- you are at risk of becoming infected. This is true whether you are husband, lover, child, or room mate. This is because she is a risk taker, and will take risks with how she handles food, kitchen implements, etc that will increase your risk.

      The risk of getting toxo cannot be controlled by you exercising good hygeinic practices. It also depends on everyone around you who handles cats to also exercise good hygeine. But those with toxo are the ones who will stretch the "5 second rule" to "less than a minute". And then comfortably serve you the canape that was just rescued from the floor next to the cat's litter box.

      Not all cat owners are dangerous to your health. But those who have multiple cats and don't mind living in a house with a permanent faint odor of cat piss maybe should be regarded as dangerous.

      BTW, I don't know for sure whether this is a gender-specific thing and I may be doing a bad in implying that this is a women's issue kind of thing. Anecdotally it seems that way, and the research seems to suggest that men are not as susceptible to toxo induced behavioral problems as are women. But I don't know that for sure.

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      Will
    9. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      If you live with a woman who has lots of cats and some of the indicators of toxo, then-- because she is likely to be a risk taker-- you are at risk of becoming infected. This is true whether you are husband, lover, child, or room mate. This is because she is a risk taker, and will take risks with how she handles food, kitchen implements, etc that will increase your risk. ... But those who have multiple cats and don't mind living in a house with a permanent faint odor of cat piss maybe should be regarded as dangerous.

      You both 1) have completely missed my point AND 2) keep ignoring the biological reality for some reason: EVERY cat can be infectious no more than two of three weeks ONCE in her entire life (spanning, say, twenty years). Even having multiple cats and being in contact with them isn't relevant. Even the scenario you mentioned is irrelevant. If a woman with a lot of cats and symptoms of having undergone toxoplasmosis is a matter of the past. The cats are no longer infectious by then. The ENVIRONMENTAL persistence of the parasite in OUTSIDE soil and potential water supply is the issue here.

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    10. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Blah, "two OR three weeks", of course...

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    11. Re:First time? by Udom · · Score: 2

      Humans infected with Toxoplasma gondii are more prone to risk taking, apparently having more car accidents, for example. Infected mice lose all fear of predators and will happily walk right up to a cat. It was thought that humans could only be infected by contact with cat feces, but thousands were exposed in Victoria BC through a contaminated water supply. Untested so far is the legal culpability of someone who carries the parasite if they are accused of a crime.

    12. Re:First time? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      I've never seen a cat lady I'd want to sleep with.

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    13. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The inclination to love cats *is* a disease. In general, having such emotional attachments to an animal is kinda crazy. There are some cases where the animal performs useful labor, in which case allowing the animal to attach to you as an alpha makes sense. But the reciprocal attachment makes no sense at all. People who think they need this for psychological reasons need to address the root cause: their psychological brokenness.

      Heal your mind. Then you will save yourself a bundle in pet care costs (and, of course, be able to make much more profitable use of your time).

    14. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never seen a preposition I'd want to end a sentence with.

    15. Re:First time? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      It's a problem, in that it encourages risky behaviors. This, however, isn't the same as either making you smarter or stupider...though it will often result in your acting stupider. There is, however, no evidence that if you stop and think about it, you won't make decisions that are just as intelligent as you would otherwise make. My guess it that it softens the effectiveness of the voice of caution. Another way of saying that is it makes you braver.

      It's quite fortunate that it's not as potent on humans as it is on mice, but then brave humans are only rarely eaten by cats, so it has little reason to adapt itself specifically to humans.

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    16. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off. How about this: People who hate animals are more likely to be serial killers. So everyone who hates cats should be put in jail on principle.

    17. Re:First time? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      There is anecdotal evidence..... are often

      Anecdotal evidence can tell you some things, but it can't tell you the frequency of an occurrence. That is, it can't tell you something happens often. You actually do need data to discover that.

      As just one example of why, consider the person who couldn't understand how her preferred candidate lost, saying, "I don't see how he lost! Everyone I know voted for him!"

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    18. Re:First time? by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 1

      No, I do not think I have missed your point.

      AND it is NOT that I am ignoring any biological realities. I AM recognizing that the length of time an infected cat can be contagious is unimportant to risk evaluation. Unless of course you have some foolproof method of determining when, exactly, the three week period of being contagious starts and ends.

      Toxo is a serious parasitic disease that has left its mark on one in every five persons you come across on the street. That is clear proof that its mode of transmission is very effective, no matter whether any individual cat might be only contagious for a short time. It causes very serious complications of pregnancy, but it also appears to cause long term abberations in adult behavior that affect psychosocial norms and risk-taking behavior.

      The CDC thinks it is a serious threat that requires more study, and perhaps they will get around to it when ebola and killer flu is under control. They do have a lot on their plate right now.

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    19. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Yes, you DID miss my point, because I was commenting that being an owner of a cat is only marginally more dangerous than not being an owner of a cat (and refuting the opposite claim of the person I was responding to), while your argument is that toxoplasmosis is a serious problem with regards to its effects on public health. That's a completely orthogonal statement, one with which I have no problem, thus making me wonder why you went on a tangent to write all this.

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    20. Re:First time? by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 1

      So you are now saying that you agree that the well established toxo transmission route from rodents to cats to humans is a significant public health issue? Then why did you bring up the concerns about the less than one percent possibility of transmission from pigs, sheep, other animals, or (very unlikely!) picking it up by walking a path that some cat had taken recently?

      Is there some hidden need that is driving your arguments?

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    21. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1
      "One percent possibility?" Was that number obtained by way of rectal extraction? I have absolutely no idea how come you are so obsessed with this cats-as-extremely-dangerous-animals notion. Let's see what your beloved CDC has to say about transmission:

      A Toxoplasma infection occurs by:

      • - Eating undercooked, contaminated meat (especially pork, lamb, and venison).

        - Accidental ingestion of undercooked, contaminated meat after handling it and not washing hands thoroughly (Toxoplasma cannot be absorbed through intact skin).

        - Eating food that was contaminated by knives, utensils, cutting boards and other foods that have had contact with raw, contaminated meat.

        - Drinking water contaminated with Toxoplasma gondii.

        - Accidentally swallowing the parasite through contact with cat feces that contain Toxoplasma. This might happen by

        1) cleaning a cat's litter box when the cat has shed Toxoplasma in its feces

        2) touching or ingesting anything that has come into contact with cat feces that contain Toxoplasma

        3) accidentally ingesting contaminated soil (e.g., not washing hands after gardening or eating unwashed fruits or vegetables from a garden)

        - Mother-to-child (congenital) transmission.

        - Receiving an infected organ transplant or infected blood via transfusion, though this is rare.

      Notice that not only is there just a single item that poses increased danger to cat owners, but unlike all the other items, it's explicitly time-constrained. Anything else in the list can happen at any time, to anyone.

      Or, as Cornell people say:

      In the United States, people are much more likely to become infected through eating raw meat and unwashed fruits and vegetables than from handling cat feces.

      (Emphasis mine.)

      Is there some hidden need that is driving your arguments?

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    22. Re:First time? by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 1

      Take another look at what you have quoted from the CDC and factor in what you should know about USDA meat inspection and common kitchen practices in the USA. While the rate of transmission of toxo through improperly prepared meats is undoubtedly very high in some parts of the world, the incidence of that happening in the USA is extremely low. Very few households slaughter and butcher their own animals. Using kitchen utensils on raw meat and then using the same unwashed utensils on cooked meat is considered gross and is only likely to be practiced by persons who ignore risks. Such as (anecdotally) some persons whose behavior has been altered by toxo parasites. The same kitchen techniques that have been taught for decades to prevent trichinosis from pork, venison, and the like will also prevent toxoplasmosis, and since the incidence of trichinosis in the USA is less than 4 per million per year, that route cannot account for anything close to the toxo incidence rate, where 20% of USA residents have had toxo.

      The greatest risk of toxo transmission in the USA is from rodent to cat to human. The risk is less if the cat is an indoor cat, not a mouser, and the litter box is handled with proper hygeine. The risk is probably highest among persons who feed stray cats, keep several cats in the house, allow the house cats to hunt outside, and do not use good hygeine with the cat litter. If the household has that odor of stale cat piss, then that is pretty suggestive of a toxic toxo environment.

      As to the brochure that Cornell University has had published in its name: I see in the last paragraph that funding for the Cornell Feline Health Center is by donations from the American Association of Feline Practitioners and various unnamed cat fanciers.

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    23. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Take another look at what you have quoted from the CDC and factor in what you should know about USDA meat inspection and common kitchen practices in the USA. While the rate of transmission of toxo through improperly prepared meats is undoubtedly very high in some parts of the world, the incidence of that happening in the USA is extremely low.

      Again, you're engaging in wishful thinking and pulling stuff out of your ass:

      Pathogen: Toxoplasma gondii

      Proportion foodborne: 50% based on published studies

      That's what the CDC says, not me. So the CDC claims it's 50% for food alone, whereas you previously claimed that household cats are 99% - since you claimed that the food and everything else is the remaining "one percent" - and now you're saying that everything except for cats is "extremely low". That's one serious discrepancy right there.

      Using kitchen utensils on raw meat and then using the same unwashed utensils on cooked meat is considered gross and is only likely to be practiced by persons who ignore risks. Such as (anecdotally) some persons whose behavior has been altered by toxo parasites.

      So you're saying that people who already got infected by toxoplasmosis...are at a greater risk of getting infected by toxoplasmosis? Brilliant logic! But not very useful.

      If the household has that odor of stale cat piss, then that is pretty suggestive of a toxic toxo environment.

      I don't know what is it with you and your fascination with stale cat piss, but cat odor is usually indicative of cats, just like cat odor is indicative of dogs.

      As to the brochure that Cornell University has had published in its name: I see in the last paragraph that funding for the Cornell Feline Health Center is by donations from the American Association of Feline Practitioners and various unnamed cat fanciers.

      And they apparently used the CDC numbers, just like everyone else...well, almost. ;-p

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    24. Re:First time? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      just like cat odor is indicative of dogs.

      Oops, obviously should have read "dog odor".

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    25. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That explains my subconscious, but overwhelming desire to buy my hot neighbor a cat! (yawn).

    26. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, dangerous and potentially infected by ATCV-1!

    27. Re:First time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right, the CDC is right, but the guy you insist on arguing with is more right. The CDC is not saying what the most common vector for this illness is, since it does not want to get involved in senseless political arguments with the huge fraternity of cat people.

      Most people who get toxoplasmosis get it by ingesting food that has been tainted with it. Yes, you are right.

      But what taints the food is almost always cat feces. So it is very appropriate to call the illness a cat-borne disease.

  8. Real article is here by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.pnas.org/content/ea...

    It explains that they measured the cognitive differences between infected and non-infected people, and how, which wasn't addressed in the clickbait summary.

    1. Re:Real article is here by RDW · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Rather an odd study. Viral DNA apparently present in nearly half the subjects. They went straight to a mouse model before attempting to confirm the (small) effect in a larger, independent human cohort. No evidence that the virus actually infects mammalian cells, which would be an extremely unusual host range (the only precedent of anything similar they could find to cite is in an obscure Ukrainian journal). I'd say 'more research is needed', but maybe that's just the virus talking.

    2. Re:Real article is here by neoritter · · Score: 2

      *whispers* pay no mind to the man behind the mucous curtain...there's no virus making you stupid...yessssssss....

    3. Re:Real article is here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This wasn't the main point of the original study, apparently, and it's much cheaper and easier to test for effects in mice. But given the significance of the findings of both the initial study and the experiments with mice, I don't doubt that the study will be revised and repeated with a larger sample size (human).

    4. Re:Real article is here by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      So it could also mean that stupid people are more likely to drink pond/lake water than non-stupid people. Or that people living in rural areas are more likely to drink pond/lake water than city folks. Etc.

    5. Re:Real article is here by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      "The presence of ATCV-1 DNA was not associated with demographic variables but was associated with a modest but statistically significant decrease in the performance on cognitive assessments of visual processing and visual motor speed."

      I'm assuming location would be a demographic variable they'd consider when looking at something that's found in pond and lake water.

    6. Re:Real article is here by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      There has to be some physical mechanism by which Cthulhu overcomes the resistance of his prey..

  9. Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Those lakes and ponds are in the southern US of A?

    1. Re: Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Until you need your car fixed, or there is a war, you dipshit.

    2. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't expect /. to be nice, but "interesting"? no, if you're too stupid to think outside of generalizations like this, then this is a "known fact". otherwise, if you're being a bit snide, then it might be funny. though, i'd have to wonder about your sense of humor. personally, i'd go with -1 troll.

      captcha on the spot: labeling

  10. Do they mention longevity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm not able to function mentally at 100% any time I'm infected with a cold virus. We all know this: it's miserable having a cold. The good news is, when your immune system fights it off you're back to normal (more or less) after a week. Are they saying the effects of this ATCV-1 virus are permanent?

    1. Re:Do they mention longevity? by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      I'm not able to function mentally at 100% any time I'm infected with a cold virus. We all know this: it's miserable having a cold. The good news is, when your immune system fights it off you're back to normal (more or less) after a week. Are they saying the effects of this ATCV-1 virus are permanent?

      Considering they weren't even trying, and managed to find a sample where 44% of the participants had the virus... Its hard to imagine that the effects could be short term unless the research was done literally on a boat on the lake.

  11. Unclean! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You are all infected!

  12. Virus Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    E.religioni

  13. Should have called it FoxNews, CNN or BBC by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 0

    Who needs a virus when you have new channels run by idiots, staffed by idiots and feeding their opinions to masses of idiots?

    1. Re:Should have called it FoxNews, CNN or BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The BBC is way, way above the scum depth of Fox News. CNN...well, I'll give you that one.

    2. Re:Should have called it FoxNews, CNN or BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      CNN is actually the most trusted news source in the nation on the whole (both sides), though when it comes to party lines Fox is favored heavily on the right, and the left trusts a mix. (basically the study found that liberals trust a variety of sources as long as they can be backed up and verified, ie facts mattered more than source; meanwhile conservatives trusted Fox and no one else, period)

      CNN is also repeatedly found to be very unbiased source in the nation, second only to BBC and Al Jeezera (spelling) both of which dont get much play in the states.

      Now...part of the CNN's appeal and success undoubtedly has to do with actually saying very little, but asking a lot of questions, such as "where is the airplane" and "will you die of ebola".... :P

    3. Re:Should have called it FoxNews, CNN or BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the discovery channel and TLC. Since the 90s they have slid from being PBS on steroids to channels targetted at epsilon semi-morons. (Brave new world reference)

  14. Virus Name by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

    Damn you... beat me to it :)

  15. So... by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Funny

    It looks like stupidity may be contagious after all.

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    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Our CinC proves that every day!

  16. it all makes sense now... by Karmashock · · Score: 3, Funny

    this explains why I need to stay in my hazmat bubble.

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    1. Re:it all makes sense now... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Duh... why would you want to be on fire? /Virus

  17. you can catch it over the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think you can catch it from facebook.

    1. Re:you can catch it over the internet by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      I think you can catch it from Twit ter.

  18. At last: an explanation! by bbsguru · · Score: 1
    So, a virus found in "freshwater lakes and ponds" causes decreased cognition in humans. This could explain a vast swath of "Reality Television". Swamp People, anyone?

    Actually, with the coming American holiday season, this is just in time. We finally have a reason to be Thankful the western drought...

    1. Re:At last: an explanation! by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      I don't know about that, but it doesn't bode well for Minnesota, "The land of 10,000 Lakes". Perhaps that's why they undercounted the lakes.

    2. Re:At last: an explanation! by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Minnesota only has 16 lakes?

    3. Re:At last: an explanation! by almitydave · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? He said it has 65,536 lakes.

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    4. Re:At last: an explanation! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that reality show characters aren't the people who decide to produce the show, nor air it, nor are they the ones who keep the show on the air by tuning in each week by the million.

      So basically, you just said that Hollywood TV execs and reality show viewers have a lower intellect than the characters on shows like "Swamp People" and "Honey Boohoo."

      Can't say I disagree with that one.

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    5. Re:At last: an explanation! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Please explain

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    6. Re:At last: an explanation! by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      2 ^ 16, but I still don't understand where the 16 came from.

    7. Re:At last: an explanation! by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, it's a bit more then that.
      MIllion is, techncally correct in that it's more then 1 million. But it very few show that break 2 million viewer. And many of those viewers are the saem ones that watch other reality shows.

      Reality shows are cheap. This is why you have a lot of them, you need very few viewers to make a profit.

      More people watched the lowest rated episode of the Beverly hillbillys then watched the highest rated reality TV.

      "s have a lower intellect"
      Why would it be lower, as opposed to the same?

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    8. Re:At last: an explanation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2^16 = 65536. This is commonly known by programmers since it is the maximum value that can be stored in an unsigned two byte integer.

      Granted....data structures that small are a vestige of the past. Off my lawn, you!

    9. Re:At last: an explanation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crap. 16 bits can hold a total of 65536 values. The range for uint is 0 - 65535.

      I am humiliated that I posted before realizing I had made that mistake.

    10. Re:At last: an explanation! by dodobh · · Score: 1

      http://science.slashdot.org/co... says 10000 lakes. 10000 in binary is 16 in decimal.

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    11. Re:At last: an explanation! by almitydave · · Score: 1

      The binary number 10000 equals 16 in decimal (ArcadeMan's joke)
      The hexadecimal number 10000 equals 65,536 in decimal (my joke)

      You know, a number base joke. For crying out loud, people, the sum of your UIDs is barely half mine.

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  19. "make us more stupid" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The virus infected the people researching it.

  20. Yesterday by Rashdot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yesterday I went swimming in a pond but now I can't fin.. Oh look, a tweet.

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    1. Re:Yesterday by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 0

      but now I can't fin..

      ..d your underpants?

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    2. Re:Yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My attention is already short, I can't finished any article in the free Metro paper.

    3. Re:Yesterday by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      U cna't not splel good eihter.

  21. This explains everything by smooth+wombat · · Score: 0

    All those rednecks who go swimming in ponds and lakes get infected and become the dullards we see them as.

    Of course this doesn't explain people such as the Kardashians, but at least it's a start.

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  22. Chemtrails anyone? by pahles · · Score: 1

    Maybe those conspiracy theorists were on to something after all?

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    1. Re:Chemtrails anyone? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Joseph Heller — "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you."

      Your theory would also explain why most Slashdot readers aren't complete idiots, we spend most of our time indoors.

    2. Re:Chemtrails anyone? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      only if 'on to something' means 'ignorant of even the most basic science', then yes.

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    3. Re:Chemtrails anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only if 'on to something' means 'ignorant of even the most basic science', then yes.

      Hmm, how about "Illiterate, lazy, obnoxious, arrogant fuck-wad" then? Does that describe you more accurately? 93% of Slashdot responders agree!

  23. Breaking: Facebook bids $17 Billion for new virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News at 11.

  24. Tinfoil hazmat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its the illuminati or THEY, you know.

  25. Awww, poor widdle butthurt Obamabots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Emperor Notmyfaulticus is going to go down in history as an inexperienced incompetent who got in over his head and:

    1. Fucked up relations with Russia
    2. Cut-and-ran from Iraq only to have to send troops back in a few days after getting bitch-slapped in mid-term elections (missed that, didn't you?)
    3. Ran against "warrantless wiretaps" only to greatly expand their use
    4. Conducted "extrajudicial killings" of US citizens
    5. Led from behind on marriage equality. Is his position still "evolving"?
    6. Presided over the longest long-term decline in US labor force participation in history (yeah, I'm sure that's all on BOOOSH, you tards)
    7. Dragged is party down to an utter bitch-slapping in elections, so much so that his Mini-Me in Democrat stronghold Maryland lost the race for Governor.
    8. Has set a precedent that laws mean nothing by ignoring Obamacare statutory deadlines - enjoy your policy rate increases that you were supposed to see BEFORE last weeks elections...
    9. Runs to the same "I'm mad as hell" script every time HIS government fucks up. Is that still fooling you?

    1. Re:Awww, poor widdle butthurt Obamabots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1: Because they were great to start with? They havent really changed: Putin is a thug out for himself. Our relations reflected that before during and will continue to do so after Obama. Also, who really jacked them up, the President who didnt want confrontation, or the Congress who did?

      2: The guy who jacked up Iraq is Maliki, the guy Bush placed there. And the SOFA was signed by Bush. A new SOFA would have required placing all military personel subject to Iraqi law, something no one in the military wanted. Because Iraq wouldnt budge on that, we left. Rightly so. And then Maliki's chickens came home to roost because of his sectarian policies. So you ee Al Queda in Iraq become ISIS and Iraqi troops running from them.

      3: You actually found something worth bashing the Prez with. A legitimate source of criticism. Well done.

      4: Another legitimate source of criticism. Well done. While I will say, I dont have much problem with the bad guy being dead (he was by all counts a terrorist and really bad person). The problem is the legal justification created to justify it created some far reaching potential problems for the nation.

      5: And a third one. You are doing far better than most AC's who usually jsut rant about Benghazi. He should have shown backbone, I agree.

      6: No, you dont get to dismiss the effects of the worst recession this country ever saw. Blaming him for hte job loss is like blaming FDr for the jobs lost in the depression. The only reason it wasnt in fact the Great Depression 2.0 has to do with the safety that now exists (and didnt in the 20s) and the extraordinary measures taken to stop it, ie, bailouts. Those measure themselves have ramnifications. We will feel them for years. So that long term decline is not his, but the recession's. And you also dont get to ignore that unemployment is back to pre-recession levels, Wall Street profits are at all time record highs, and the economy has by all typical measures recovered (problems with the middle and lower classes not actually seeing that recovery is a seperate issue; i did say the "typical" indicators)

      7: Dont think you can blame him for democrats in competitive races (competitive because of gerrymandering redistrctiing, voter suppression, and the largely ignored red takeover of local elections) distancing themselves from him. Will also give him the credit for the next round of congressional elections in which a lot of safely blue seats go to dems?

      8: The executive has always had a great deal of latitude with teh actual execution and implentation of laws. it must because simply declaring soemthing in Congress doesnt always make it true or possible. Its nothing new.

      9: How is it his government when the party controlling congress's default action is blanket opposition to everything he does regardless of topic or any prior positions?

  26. That explains a lot ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

    ... it must be something in the water.

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  27. what poor sod? by Triklyn · · Score: 1

    did they infect this time?

    always knew water was out to get me, now i've got proof.

  28. Hinamizawa syndrome by Cigaes · · Score: 1

    Is this a sign that the Hinamizawa syndrome can actually exist?

  29. Re:i love parasites by tibit · · Score: 1

    "toxo is a problem 50% of humans have it, and 75% of cat owners" Um, no.

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  30. Coming soon to a theater near you by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

    November 10, 2034. Twenty years after "Dumb and Dumber To", geriatric comedians Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels reprise their iconic roles from 2014 in "Dumb and Dumber 4". This third installment of the "Dumb and Dumber" franchise brings an interesting sci-fi twist to an otherwise tired premise. The boys stumble (or should we say "toddle"?) into a certain Professor Peabody's lab, and their brains accidentally get infected with an algae virus that Peabody and his pal Sherman have been cooking up, making our heroes - can you believe it? - even dumber. Not even Peabody himself can save the boys from the madcap misadventures that ensue! To heighten the movie experience, select theaters will offer an algae sprinkle free with each purchase of popcorn. Fun for the whole family!

    1. Re:Coming soon to a theater near you by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      You misspelled "Dum n dumer foor".

    2. Re:Coming soon to a theater near you by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      Next thing, you're gonna tell me that Microsoft misspelled Windows 10...

    3. Re:Coming soon to a theater near you by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      No, they're just copying Apple as usual.

      And as usual, a decade late.

    4. Re:Coming soon to a theater near you by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Too bad for most of their features, MS had it first.

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  31. Take THAT dualists and theologists! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Once again we prove everything has a physical cause. And remember, judge not!

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:Take THAT dualists and theologists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think most people see the mind as something like human software these days. And it is separate from the hardware, logically, even if it's stored in there.

    2. Re:Take THAT dualists and theologists! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      The brain programs itself, using its sensory inputs to 'guide' it. The software emerged from the hardware and it will die with it. The only thing left is the printout. I doubt very much it can produce a conscious being.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  32. That explains... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...why environmentalists and tree-huggers act the way they do....

  33. Brain boost virus,.. by Selur · · Score: 1

    is there also a virus that boosts brain power?
    If not, they should go find one. :D

    1. Re:Brain boost virus,.. by PPH · · Score: 1

      they should go find one.

      Too much work. The football game is on TV.

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      Have gnu, will travel.
    2. Re:Brain boost virus,.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A virus that boosts brain power seems pretty likely. After all, smarter people are more likely to be good hosts, right? They tend to live longer and travel more, i.e. they're a better delivery mechanism.

      Maybe dementia is just the good viruses losing a turf war to the bad ones.

  34. In related news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...said virus was found to thrive in the american political system, notably congress.

  35. Nothing to see here, move along by plopez · · Score: 2

    Seriously, this being slashdot everyone is going to use an article like this to insult anyone who disagrees with them and make stupid jokes about politicians, CEOs, various religious groups etc. Don't waste your time here.

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    putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
    1. Re:Nothing to see here, move along by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Seriously, this being slashdot [...] Don't waste your time here.

      You must be new here.

      by plopez (54068)

      I stand corrected.

    2. Re:Nothing to see here, move along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you're here why?

  36. Maybe it's the Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Spatial reasoning is the one area where Caucasians completely trump Asians. They have nothing to lose with it's spread but we do.

  37. tl;dr by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 1

    .. I'm distracted

  38. Re:Democrats and Women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm assuming women and white democrats are 100% infected with this.

    A typical assumption by the infected.

  39. Hypnotoad by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    FTFY

  40. Seems reasonably solid, lacks blinding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The full text is available here (PDF).

    The study is more solid than I expected. I expected to post that this study ignored the factor that intelligence correlates with immune system functioning, as almost all studies ignore these things (e.g, there's a bunch of studies going "low amount of social connections lead to increase in death rates, primarily from increases in infections", where human attraction is strongly correlated with a strong immune system.) However, this use a mouse model to show that cause/effect - and the viruses are clearly a possible cause, due to using mouse models to verify. They used force feeding to get this into the mice, and they used a control group which was also force fed. The only potential procedural problem I see here is lack of blinding - blinding at least isn't mentioned. Since this is a quite significant and unexpected result, I would have liked to have full blinding on the test, rather than having the possibility of unintended researcher influence. Unintended influence has been seen in e.g. homeopathy studies, where homeopathy works on horses if the person administering knows that this is supposed to work, but not under double blinding.

  41. Quarantine by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    Has anyone thought of submitting 8chan/gg for testing?

    I'm pretty sure we have a hotspot developing over there.

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    You are welcome on my lawn.
  42. Re:The virus is transmitted by cannabis use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love weed, have you ever smoked?

  43. Yeah, a virus called.... by MitchDev · · Score: 1

    The Internet, Reality TV, and Sports/Hollywood worship....

  44. The real story by penguinoid · · Score: 2

    "found that it actually affects cognitive functions in the brain by shortening attention span" ... in Americans. So the real story is that they discovered negative attention sp

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    Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
  45. virus that infects the green algae by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First symptom is the person joins the Green Party.

  46. Is there a virus that makes us smarter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there virus is making us more stupid, is there a virus or a way to engineer a virus that will make us smarter?

  47. doesnt this just show... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    doesnt this just show that people who swim in algae infested lakes are just a little dumber than the rest of us?

  48. People don't live in a swamp because they're dumb by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    They're dumb because they live in a swamp?

  49. MORE stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it only I believe it is an insult?

  50. Really? by Gocho · · Score: 1

    Funny how thihttp://science.slashdot.org/story/14/11/10/1240204/scientists-discover-a-virus-that-changes-the-brain-to-make-humans-more-stupid#s virus is rampant in the Bible Belt

  51. Re:i love parasites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FUCK CATS

    Yes, toxoplasmosis makes rodents sexually aroused by the smell of cat urine, but I think you're taking it a little too far to blame your fetish on a toxoplasmosis infection.

  52. Timecube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid and evil.

  53. Sciencephobia by Baldrson · · Score: 2

    And in other news, the virus purportedly renders people unable to think rationally about epidemiology. Scientists are baffled as to why a virus would do such a thing, although they professed a mysterious urge to share bodily fluids with those around them and denounce as "sciencephobic" those who shunned their advances.

  54. So now what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If 40-50% of the population has this thing, we would obviously benefit from fixing it, if possible. Virologists, I know it's early, but if the details of the findings of this study are confirmed, what do you think? Can the virus (and its cognitive effects) be eliminated in infected individuals? If so, how? Or is the modified gene expression in the brain likely to be a permanent effect once infection has occurred?

  55. It works great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's been tested all year on congress!

  56. Obamabola by gelfling · · Score: 1

    naturally

  57. origin traced back to political postcards by swschrad · · Score: 1

    and the Supreme Court chambers.

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
  58. The Atlantis Gene? by Radtastic · · Score: 1

    A.G. Riddle wrote a pretty good story based on a similar premise - gene-affecting viruses that modify our intellectual capabilities.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Atla...

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    You stereotypers are all the same...
    1. Re:The Atlantis Gene? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Actually, this might explain why we can't identify gene/s that govern the fast disparity in intelligence among the rest of thee human race. Perhaps every healthy baby (no genetic abnormalities such as downs, etc) is born with the capacity to be highly intelligent to begin with. However, it's when you get hit with this virus does it cause cognitive impairment. As such, it won't show up in a normal DNA test; not unless you can actually get sample of neurons directly and sequence them for alterations.

      Scary stuff. Shit, I may have this virus too if the 44% of those tested because positive. That's 44% of the entire slashdot crowd. No joke!

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      Life is not for the lazy.
    2. Re:The Atlantis Gene? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      PS. Auto-correct sucks balls; hence the bad spelling.

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      Life is not for the lazy.
  59. I will wait ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... For Someone to independently reproduce the results because Anyone can make up a paper and claim, "We show ___." If the Researchers are right, independently reproducing the results both of the cognitive tests and the DNA detection, should be pretty easy.

  60. Fix it?? What do you mean? by DanielOom · · Score: 1

    This stuff has great potential. Big corporations are rushing to corner the market. Scientists are trying to make it more effective....

  61. Where is the link to the article? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot needs to require links to the original article instead of the clickbait as a submission standard.

    . . . pressing ^W for now.

  62. And that is why... by publiclurker · · Score: 0

    we do not let self-entitled four year olds in adult bodies name anything.

  63. Zombie apocolypse by dingleberrie · · Score: 1

    Could this be how it starts?
    They don't want brains to eat, just to augment their depreciated functionality... like asking for water.

  64. a.k.a. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    also known as bolsa-famÃlia. Widly spread over brazil.

  65. Aluminum Sprayed in Atmosphere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't have to look any farther than the sky overhead when the tanker aircraft are out spraying chemicals and metals into the atmosphere for stupid. Aluminum and barium are sprayed daily around the planet to protect computer chip technology in aircraft from harmful solar radiation, and it can make you stupid as well. Aluminum affects the ability for the synopses firing off in the brain, and stifles those connections needed for simple thought processes. This also is not benign in the environment as some officials claim. Look at the diminishing bee polations around the world. Its making them stupid too. Its terror for life on earth as we know it raining down on us and most of us are completely unaware. I'm not even going to get into the fluoride [by-product of aluminum manufacturing processes] in our water that's making us and our children stupid too and killing us.

    1. Re:Aluminum Sprayed in Atmosphere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the romans ate lead (balsomic dressing) and look what happened to them

  66. Kardashians by Virtucon · · Score: 1

    And all their viewers/fans have it. Wait that'll include Kanye West too! Egads they're everywhere!

    --
    Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
  67. Creationists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must be what creationists and other religious fundamentalists are infected with.

  68. That explains... by BrennanPratt · · Score: 1

    ...all the tricked out all wheel pickup trucks with tricked out suspension and a Confederate flag in the back window tooling around the lake.

  69. Re:i love parasites by geekoid · · Score: 1

    That is incorrect. Get some actual information.
    http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/t...

    And cats might be the path way to a cure from AIDS(HIV)
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.co...

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  70. Article by graphius · · Score: 1

    TL;DR

  71. Came here for cool neuroscience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...found only political arguments

  72. More stupid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't it be "stupider"?

  73. LOL by MakersDirector · · Score: 0

    So they WISH! LOL!

  74. No, it's not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You give your politicians *way* too much credit if you attribute their actions to stupidity.

    Their problem is disloyalty. They are not loyal to the majority of people, but rather, to an elite minority of rich people (usually including themselves).

    Following the money makes their actions line up quite nicely with their incentives....far better than if you just chalk it all up to incompetence.

  75. Who Knew These Two Artciles Were Related? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They found the Hipster Virus.

    How's That for Hate?

  76. IQ 83 - MOVIE coming soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is the first thing that came to mind.

    A scientist tries to undo some sort of plague or something that is slowly dulling his intellect...along with the rest of the human race.

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  78. This could explain a lot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I'd really like to see is some kind of chart showing the relative prevalence of this virus across the US. Say, a US map showing areas of high / low concentration in red / blue.

  79. This virus saves an American automotive giant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This virus is the sole reason General Motors remains in business..... Ie only a stupid person would buy one if their vehicles. As there aren't that many naturally acuring stupid people the virus must be having an affect on otherwise normal people. ;-)

  80. Stupid by brunnegd · · Score: 1

    Check the Washinton, DC water system, especially the pipes around the Capital.

  81. 'Stupid Virus' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flip - an outbreak of ATCV-1

  82. 'Stupid Virus' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks, I was starting to become concerned with what will replace the current 24/7 outbreak or crisis in the news. Now I know.

  83. So, chicken and egg scenario? by doccus · · Score: 1

    Was my old bandmate stupid as a log from to try to live off of Blue-green algae, or did the algae make him so stupid he believed the "patent medicine" claims given it? Frankly, I don't need anything that can cure "sluggish heart" , impotence, and "reluctant liver", plus cancer, baldness, emphysema, rash, zits, high blood pressure , low blood pressure, no blood pressure, etc etc. Good old Dr Foster's "Genuine Turkish tincture" can do that real good, already. Great for the "vapors", too ;-)

  84. Location, location, location! by CHIT2ME · · Score: 0

    I also hear this virus hangs out in water fountains immediately outside political science classrooms!

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    My karma is bad. Don't get too close!!!
  85. Virus Throughout US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scientists have discovered virus originated in US before spreading to Africa. It was first discovered around the time of President Reagan's election and has since become endemic in US spreading first across the South and Mid-west then north and eastwards. Virus currently threatening Canada but possibility of new Government following elections in 2015 provide hope for keeping virus at bay.

  86. Petition Created on petitions.whitehouse.gov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know if this will make a difference, but I created a petition asking for further research:

    Short URL: http://wh.gov/ixUiN
    Long URL: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/investigate-algae-virus-atcv-1-seems-makes-people-dumber-and-clumsier-found-50-population-so-far/B1ykRbm6

                      "Doctors report that they have discovered a cure for apathy.
                            However nobody has shown the slightest interest in it." -- unknown

  87. Parasites do it too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google: bbc cat parasite
    and you'll find articles like
    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26240297
    "We know, for example, that people who have antibodies to toxoplasma are more than twice as likely to be involved in a traffic accident. It could be that the parasite is making us, like rodents, behave in a more reckless fashion."

  88. They found... by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    ...football and baseball???

  89. Sen. James Inhofe was infected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the thing that infected Sen. James Inhofe (R-Kochlahoma) in summer of 2011.
    http://wonkette.com/448805/mother-nature-attacks-jim-inhofe-for-climate-change-denial
    And he's been swimming in that same pond for decades.
    That explains a lot.

  90. ...or a smartass that won't gives infos2u;) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like they working up another scheme so they making people to accept easier their "good medicines" and vaccines in MEGA pharma for money in the world and make human being a huge experimental laboratory. OMG! Where is Mengele to feel so happy about it? :P

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