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The World Is Not Falling Apart

An anonymous reader writes: As much as we like complaining, and as much as the big media stations like to focus on the most horrible news of the day, the world is actually becoming a better place. Stephen Pinker and Andrew Mack have an article in Slate going through many of the statistics for things like homicide rates, child abuse, wars, and even autocracy vs. democracy. They're all trending in the right direction. Maybe not fast, or even fast enough, but it's getting better.

They say, "Too much of our impression of the world comes from a misleading formula of journalistic narration. Reporters give lavish coverage to gun bursts, explosions, and viral videos, oblivious to how representative they are and apparently innocent of the fact that many were contrived as journalist bait. Then come sound bites from "experts" with vested interests in maximizing the impression of mayhem: generals, politicians, security officials, moral activists. The talking heads on cable news filibuster about the event, desperately hoping to avoid dead air. Newspaper columnists instruct their readers on what emotions to feel. There is a better way to understand the world. ... An evidence-based mindset on the state of the world would bring many benefits."

208 comments

  1. Have these guys even seen Slashdot Beta? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    World not falling apart my ass!

    1. Re:Have these guys even seen Slashdot Beta? by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      So funny, it's a pain I cannot contribute to skyrocket your already topped score.

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      Hop!
    2. Re:Have these guys even seen Slashdot Beta? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      You are not seeing the big picture, putting all those horrible phantasms of web design and UI into one place makes the rest of the world a better place. The city dump makes the city a cleaner and prettier place.

    3. Re:Have these guys even seen Slashdot Beta? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard Beta uses systemd!

  2. Yellow Journalism by halivar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sensationalism sells, and nothing is sensational like the end of the world. Ergo, all news is about the end of the world.

    1. Re:Yellow Journalism by dosius · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's called "if it bleeds it leads".

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      What you hear in the ear, preach from the rooftop Matthew 10.27b
    2. Re:Yellow Journalism by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Insightful
      That.

      And the powers that be can get away with more shit if they keep the populace worried about security...

      instead of freedoms.

      --
      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

    3. Re:Yellow Journalism by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      The end of the World is happening tonight*. News at 11.

      * if you happen to be living in the year 6945023.

    4. Re:Yellow Journalism by Ravaldy · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is an excellent TED Talk about this very topic.

      http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_...

    5. Re:Yellow Journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sensationalism wouldn't sell if people cared about news. What people really care about is entertainment and feeling better about life by comparison. Bad news is just more entertaining than good news while also making us feel better about not being the people in the news.

    6. Re:Yellow Journalism by 1369IC · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's more like drama and conflict. A lot of these stories are neither sensational nor sensationalized. But they're little vignettes of drama and conflict that, taken together, make people think the world is a mass of horrors. Sensationalism does happen, but it's usually a reporter (or often headline writer) who wants to sharpen the focus or drive a point home. That pulls things out of context or balance and when people who know about the story see the article/video, they say it's sensationalized. Really, it's just been made more dramatic. I know: a distinction without a difference. But this is what I do.

    7. Re:Yellow Journalism by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Sensationalism sells

      But on the flipside, everyone also loves videos of kitties, but for some reason the mainstream news is never interested.

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      systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
    8. Re:Yellow Journalism by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      The world will be too hot for mammals by 400000, so "end of the world" for higher order creatures coming much sooner.

    9. Re:Yellow Journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... except that the authors of this piece are just as guilty of whitewashing as the media are of blackwashing.

      Take a look at their timescales. It jumps around, from the 1930s in one figure, to the 60s in another figure, to the 90s in another. There's also no discussion of where their numbers come from, or what the validity of what those numbers are, or what they mean. Maybe Mexico is a less violent place now than in the 30s, but is that true of everywhere? And what about the nature of the violence and why it occurs?

      It also says very little about opportunity costs, and harms of another sort. The implicit attitude is "well, people are dying in hospitals instead of being killed." But what if you're dying a long, painful death in a hospital over the course of months because of a preventable illness that you couldn't afford treatment for? What if all your money is going into paying a hospital bill that's 100 times what it could be?

      I don't have any illusions about what life was like in the past, but what pisses people off isn't necessarily the sorts of things they are talking about. It's opportunity costs. Just because fewer people are being murdered than in the 1980s doesn't mean it's ok for a corrupt monopolized health care system to squeeze money out of people that they aren't ethically entitled to. For many people in the middle east dealing with ISIS and corrupt governments, it very much is the end of the world.

      Sorry, but @#*$ them. They're missing the point and it's insulting. As bad as the media is, no one--not anyone that should be taken seriously--is making some overall judgment about the state of the world overall.

    10. Re:Yellow Journalism by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Sensationalism sells, and nothing is sensational like the end of the world. Ergo, all news is about the end of the world.

      Yet, somehow, I feel fine.

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      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    11. Re:Yellow Journalism by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      something about the way the videos are presented. If I catch a random person posting a video, recent from memory of a cat trying to catch fish through the ice of a frozen pond, people would think that is funny. If it was on the 5 o'clock news, they'd think, "People are getting shot and there is rioting and this is what they put on?"

      I don't know why but it seems if it's coming from professionals it should be bad news.

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      Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
    12. Re:Yellow Journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drama & conflict are fine, it's when they run the same story 10 different ways over 10 different days the same way trying to "drive" change is when I start to take offense to the media. These people are about as qualified as dirt to dictate laws or social norms for folks as their loyalty is to their ratings not the people. Every time anything extreme or controversial happens, you'll often find the media fueling the fire.

      However, this is a side effect of free speech media, & I'd rather keep the free speech as nobody makes anybody go to cnn and read their trash reporting, there's actually good news websites out there that are worth reading. What I've always wondered is why everybody goes to cnn and not those sites, vicariousness perhaps?

      Speaking of cnn, there's an article up there on which minority is most likely to be killed by police, answer: the one that physically attacks them.

    13. Re:Yellow Journalism by davydagger · · Score: 1
      the structural problems have always existed, the only real diffrence is that they get reported far more often these days than 30 years ago, because everyone has better access to information, and people can actually call the news media out of they get too far from the truth. Their ability to cover-up isn't gone, but its been reduced.

      Imagine if Snowden happened in the pre-internet era, or in the early era of the internet where only nerds where online. the Government(or corporate proxies, i.e. the media) would simply make an example out of nerds and computer users, just to scare everyone off from going on the internet and finding the truth.(hey wait a second)

      Today's problems tall into two catagories. One, end result of decades of mismanagement and bad ideas, and two, things that always existed, that where easier to coverup or got underported in an era where it was easier to do so.

    14. Re:Yellow Journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kittens give Morbo gas.

    15. Re:Yellow Journalism by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      It's not just news outlets, it's sensational people as well, and there are a LOT of them, especially on slashdot. For example, how many people routinely claim that the poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer?

      Well lets do a little then and now comparison:

      Rich 100 years ago meant you owned an actual car, which was likely a piece of shit that poor people of today would even scoff at. Rich 50 years ago meant you owned more than one television, televisions which look like crap and had tiny screens compared to ones that poor people have access to in abundance today. Rich 30 years ago meant you had a car phone, which had crap coverage and no data, and perhaps a portable computer and perhaps a laser disc player. Middle class in the same era meant maybe owning a commodore vic-20.

      If you were poor 100 years ago you could barely afford to eat enough calories to meet your minimum daily needs. Today poor people are often overweight, and I've seen homeless people carry a laptop to starbucks, and the money they get from begging usually goes towards booze or cigarettes (any actual food or clothing they need are usually given to them for free by food banks, and if they so choose, they can get free or close to free section 8 housing.)

      In spite of all of this, its only politically correct to say that we're poorer now than we have ever been, mainly because a lot of people are incredibly dumb and can't tell the difference between money and wealth (money, by definition, does not make somebody rich or wealthy.)

      Now, does some government spreadsheet say that we have more poor today than before? Yeah, probably, but mainly because the goalpost is constantly getting pushed up. Just to put things into perspective: If minimum wage ACTUALLY kept up with inflation from the day it was first introduced, then it would be only $4.15 an hour today.

      Source:

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...

      Anyways my point is, it's not just news outlets that are at fault here. Most people, for whatever reason, hold the general belief that everything is always worse in the present day than it was in the past. Penn and Teller did an episode on this once:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    16. Re:Yellow Journalism by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Case in point:

      http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

      And he actually got modded up too. We don't need the media to feed us this shit, it's just average idiots that do it. This person probably isn't even aware that until about 150 years ago, the Bill of Rights only applied to the federal government; the state governments could do whatever they wanted, including censorship, banning religions, etc. In fact, in the early days of the US, some states didn't allow ANYBODY to vote for the federal government. In New York for example, the state government decided by itself what representatives to send, what electors to send, etc.

    17. Re:Yellow Journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recommend watching everything from Hans Rosling. Even if the subject does not interest you. Simply because he is so good at giving presentations.

  3. Shhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're threatening the entire military industrial complex.

    1. Re:Shhhhhh by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think they just turned that into a mall. With a *starbucks*.

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    2. Re:Shhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hatezx teh StarBux!!!! HERP!!!!!
       
      Just keep crying there, spanky. We know you're just a miserable moron.

  4. meta by fche · · Score: 5, Funny

    "An evidence-based mindset on the state of the world would bring many benefits."

    Perhaps evidence can be gathered to support that hypothesis.

    1. Re:meta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In related study conducted by meta-meta-journalists it was discovered that, contrary to popular belief among meta-journalists, journalism is actually becoming less of a mire of misinformation, bigotry, and propaganda, and is therefore less likely to to cause the world to fall apart than is commonly expected.

    2. Re:meta by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      The first place they should apply evidence to write news stories and make policy decisions is the one aspect of the world that has a very high likely hood of causing enormous problems in the next 100 years or so. Every other time the government has stepped in to improve the environment it has been successful and that's why we don't have to worry about acid rain and whats in our drinking water (mostly, outside WV). In addition to crime rates, things are mostly good in the environment...except for the thing that has a high potential of causing extreme societal upheaval in a generation or two.

      Oh and if all the data (ALL the data) is wrong about AGW then its like the cartoon says, "We'll have made the world a better place for nothing!".

  5. better place for whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The jobless? The disenfranchised? The dispossessed? The poor, the hungry, the downtrodden?

    Or is it just getting better for the corporate, the military, and everyone else who loves to lick Obama's boot?

    You too can be successful! Just lick that boot! Lick it good.

    1. Re:better place for whom? by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You say that like the groups are separate.

      Obama's aligned with the typically-liberal Democrat party. Liberals tend to believe that one of the government's jobs is to make things better for the jobless, the disenfranchised, the dispossessed, the poor, the hungry, and the downtrodden, so he's pushed programs that aim to help such folks.

      Of course, that's countered by the Republican conservatives, who tend to believe that everyone can make their own fate, so those programs are forced to be either opt-in or neutered. If you want to rebel against the government's control, you have that freedom to forge your own way in life.

      The end result is a system where assistance is tied to one's embrace of government. Sure, one can stay independent, but that's likely how he got to be jobless, disenfranchised, dispossessed, poor, hungry, and/or downtrodden in the first place.

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      You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
    2. Re:better place for whom? by 0123456 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Liberals tend to believe that one of the government's jobs is to make things better for the jobless, the disenfranchised, the dispossessed, the poor, the hungry, and the downtrodden, so he's pushed programs that aim to help such folks.

      You're funny. If Liberal policies really stopped those folks being disenfranchised, dispossessed, poor, hungry and downtrodden... they'd stop voting Liberal. That's why the real-world policies are designed to entrap those foilks into dependency on the Glorious Liberal State, so they'll keep voting for the politicians who are supposedly 'helping' them.

    3. Re:better place for whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liberals tend to believe that one of the government's jobs is to make things better for the jobless, the disenfranchised, the dispossessed, the poor, the hungry, and the downtrodden, so he's pushed programs that aim to help such folks.

      You're funny. If Liberal policies really stopped those folks being disenfranchised, dispossessed, poor, hungry and downtrodden... they'd stop voting Liberal. That's why the real-world policies are designed to entrap those foilks into dependency on the Glorious Liberal State, so they'll keep voting for the politicians who are supposedly 'helping' them.

      And anyone who wants to downmod you needs to remember this one thing:

      Once Obama's amnesty is implemented, companies can hire "undocumented" workers without having to either pay for health care for them or face Obamacare fines. Because "undocumented" workers aren't covered by Obamacare.

    4. Re:better place for whom? by CaptainLard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      real-world policies are designed to entrap those foilks into dependency on the Glorious Liberal State,

      Right on brother, the proven ulterior motives of heathcare, unemployment benefits, etc of this administration that hates america are the worst of all time. Things have never been this bad....wait what was this story about again? Something about sensationalism in the media making things look awful when they're really the best in history?

      One thing I'm sure you (should) agree with is that today's conspiracy theory's are some of the best ever.

    5. Re:better place for whom? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2

      The jobless? The disenfranchised? The dispossessed? The poor, the hungry, the downtrodden?

      Or is it just getting better for the corporate, the military, and everyone else who loves to lick Obama's boot?

      You too can be successful! Just lick that boot! Lick it good.

      This type of comment says a lot about the people who agree with it. When the headline says "The World", they only talk about the United States.

    6. Re:better place for whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a fucking moron. Obama has been the most fiscally conservative president in a hundred years. He has done nothing for the poor, other than shove rhetoric down their throats.

    7. Re:better place for whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Single parenthood is at an all time high and study after study has shown that this negatively effects IQ and empathy which is the first link in the causal chain to what society would label degeneracy. The approach welfare programs has taken has indisputably caused the massive increase in single parent households and the rates are increasing. We should be worried that we have destabilized a core foundation of human development. I'm for keeping welfare programs but retooling them to get rid of perverse incentives that are causing the increase of single parenting.

  6. And USA has become an official OLIGARCHY. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Before you start bashing Russian oligarchs...

    1. Re:And USA has become an official OLIGARCHY. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many countries has the US invaded and annexed in recent history?

    2. Re:And USA has become an official OLIGARCHY. by rossdee · · Score: 1

      Define recent

      Many countries that the US invaded, were first invaded by somebody else. For example France was invaded by Germany before the US got into the war.

    3. Re:And USA has become an official OLIGARCHY. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hawaii

  7. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not always. If the media makes it seem like things are getting worse overall. That would tell people the direction they are going in is wrong and will backtrack to the older ways when they were better.

    You have sites like Fox News turning relatively moderate conservatives into extream conservatives. Due to the flood of negativity poison. Where before many issues were not a big deal or some supported it, now have became a polarizing issue.

    Most of our judgment is based off of emotions, yes even the pro-science, well educated crowd. So misrepresented facts can cause a call to action where one isn't needed

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  8. What about Earth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's not a single word on the environment. What good is spreading democracy if we enter an ice age in twenty years?

    1. Re:What about Earth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your neighbors can vote on who gets to eat you after you starve to death.

  9. this is news? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

    So, why does someone think we needed to be reminded of this?

    It's not like even the news is particularly bad recently - no major wars, famines, etc. Even the Ebola outbreak only managed to do in 7000 people this year - once upon a time, we could expect a famine in Africa that did worse every few years.

    Are we really reaching the point where we consider a few police shootings to be a sign of the end times?

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    "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
  10. Skeptical about Democracies by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    The USA is still referred to as a democracy more often than not, but even the ways in which the system is democratic on paper have primarily been subverted. Why should I suspect the situation is any different anywhere else?

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    1. Re:Skeptical about Democracies by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands!

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    2. Re:Skeptical about Democracies by Livius · · Score: 1

      Because in other places 'democracy' is not just a slogan, usually because it was not something took for granted.

    3. Re:Skeptical about Democracies by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Because in other places 'democracy' is not just a slogan,

      [citation needed]

      usually because it was not something took for granted.

      Every day you're not doing something to improve your lot, you're taking it for granted. Most of us are guilty. But this is all irrelevant, because this is based on the opinions of the people writing the report, and not of the citizenry of the various countries.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  11. Perhaps causation? by tentative · · Score: 1

    The question now is what part, if any, sensationalist media plays in this happy trend.

  12. "The World" is irrelevant to most people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It may well be true that "The World" is becoming a better place, but that macro level of better may as well be theoretical to most people. On a micro level, a family whose primary breadwinner has lost a job, cascading into losing the family's home, etc. may not see benefits from the macro-level better world in their lifetimes.

    1. Re:"The World" is irrelevant to most people by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Because I let you choose to spread your idiocy that's why.

      More people right now are living in peace with their neighbors than between the Yeats 1500-1900

      If Iraq was fought like other wars in history the USA' army would be 50 million soldiers. Not 1.2 million.

      There are 320 million people in the USA with an army of 1.2 million. That's 1/2 of 1%. There are more homosexuals people in the USA 3-5 million than soliders.

      Even China with 1.2 billion people only has an army of 3 million.

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    2. Re:"The World" is irrelevant to most people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are more homosexuals people in the USA 3-5 million than soliders.

      WTF has that got to do with anything?

    3. Re: "The World" is irrelevant to most people by wheeda · · Score: 1

      Soldiers happen, but they are rare.

      They choose to be that way.

      It doesn't really have anything to do with anything, it is just an interesting comparison to understand scope. It is like, "the U.S. spend so much money on X per year that if you stacked dollar bills on each other, the stack would reach the moon." What do dollar bills and the moon have to do with each other? Nothing. It is just an amusing comparison for people who have a hard time grasping numbers and their true meaning.

      I would say that needing to swear because someone uses the percentage of gays in the US in a comparison probably indicates a problem. Are you unhappy with how many gays there are, or how many soldiers there are.

      For the record, I think we have just the right amount of each. Otherwise the market forces would cause more to be created.

      Hmm. Now I'll have to go consider what market forces could cause the creation of addition gays...

  13. The good outweights the bad by scourfish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The big thing that is worse, I think, is economic inequality, and I do think that is something that needs to be worked on. However, the world has less racism, less homophobia, better medicine, cheap and fast global communications, inexpensive computing devices that can perform amazing computations, and put the shoe phone from "Get Smart" to shame,. Not to mention that violent crime and rape are at their lowest level since the 70's. The world is an awesome place now.

    1. Re:The good outweights the bad by invid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Economic inequality is just getting back to its historical levels. Starting with the Great Depression, the US government realized it had to do some serious wealth redistribution to avoid societal collapse. Then came World War II, another big wealth redistribution. After the war there was the GI bill and the Cold War, where the United States, in order to look good compared to Communism, tried to build the Great Society. After the Cold War there was no reason for those in power to reduce economic inequality, so now it's going back to the norm for history.

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    2. Re:The good outweights the bad by 0123456 · · Score: 0

      Economic inequality is just getting back to its historical levels.

      If I remember correctly, the historical norm is that 20% of people have about 80% of the wealth. It's worse than that today because the government steal so much money from the middle class (or just print it) to give to the rich.

      But, hey, elect more Liberals, they'll sort it out. Ha-ha.

    3. Re:The good outweights the bad by pls2917 · · Score: 1

      This question (as yet unanswered) raises pretty much the same concern about economic inequality:
      http://skeptics.stackexchange....

      "Is racial income inequality currently in US worse than it was in Apartheid South Africa?"

      Jon Stewart started this, of course, but he's better at raising interesting questions than he is at applying hard journalism to them.

    4. Re:The good outweights the bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, everything is relative. Some (most?) governments figured out that instead of being better than others they can make others appear worse. And, make it unpatriotic for everyone to claim otherwise.

    5. Re:The good outweights the bad by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      I'll propose modifying your "The world is an awesome place now" with "many places in the world are great, but many places are not". It really depends on where you live. We probably won't see it in our lifetimes, but if any luck, our grandchildren or maybe our great grandchildren may see a larger world that's starting to enjoy a lot more what we in the first world currently enjoy. It seems like we're making progress, so I'm hopeful.

      In terms of providing economic improvement, I think it's important not to focus on redistribution, as that's a short-term means to an end, and taken to extremes, can cause as many problems as it attempts to solve. Rather, we need to make sure equality of opportunity is provided for people to climb the economic ladder on their own. Disparity in income is not necessarily a problem so long as we provide a way for people to improve their own lot in life by working smart and playing the rules of the game fairly.

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    6. Re:The good outweights the bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this:

              "All these people who want to steal what people have worked hard to gain"
      is what's wrong with the country. Everybody is just in it for themselves. That made sense like 100,000 years ago, but we've failed to evolve past this ape-like need to "own" as many things as possible. We're still deeply upset when someone gets two bananas and we only get one. Happiness is still defined by how many bananas you have, your status in the tribe, not by how well our society is functioning. What you own has no benefit to society. So you work hard to afford a Mercedes, what good does that do? I mean, besides improving your banana count and/or status. All those things you worked hard for have come at a terrible price. Instead of worrying about how many bananas you have, we should be worrying about the harmony of our societies with each other and with nature. That sounds corny, I know, but unless we get past this obsession with "owning" things, we're just going to keep fighting and warring and destroying everything in our futile attempt to collect as many bananas as possible. We're going to destroy this planet, and if we ever make it to outer space, we're going to destroy that too.

    7. Re:The good outweights the bad by azcoyote · · Score: 1

      The problem with generalizations, however, is whose world? It is easy to say "things are getting better" when we live in comfortable first-world situations where even the poor among us may count as rich in other countries. So long as violence and rape don't happen on our doorstep, we decide that things are better. But it all means very little to the person who happens to be on the underside of this better world. In short, the ways in which we tend to judge the world to be better tend to be predetermined according to limited scales that almost guarantee the result. Hence we might say that there are fewer wars today, but that does not mean that violence is going away; war has shifted into terrorism, and murder has escalated into the phenomenon of serial killers and school shootings. I don't doubt that in the last few years even these things may have decreased, but things often trend on larger cycles than a few years, and it may be that some of the low points we are experiencing are mere incidental shifts within the overall curve, rather than real and lasting improvements.

      The danger, of course, is that we so quickly jump to giving ourselves a pat on the back, and we stop ourselves from seeing the evils and suffering that are out there. Or, we find ways to explain them away in order to exonerate ourselves for our inaction. One might have trouble swallowing the claim that the world is categorically a better place if one is on the front lines in Ukraine, or if one had a brother murdered by the police in Mexico, but we who are safe and comfortable can always pretend that it's those people's fault and theirs alone for not making their country as wonderful as ours. We refuse to see that the prosperity of the proud is intricately linked with the suffering of the downtrodden.

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    8. Re:The good outweights the bad by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      However, the world has ... cheap and fast global communications, ...

      That's IMHO the important bit. People inherently need the world around them to be Just. A little understood implication of that is that the better and quicker we are able to communicate with the rest of the world, the more injustice gets exposed. Injustice is like a fungus: too much sunlight and it burns away.

    9. Re:The good outweights the bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure there's a lot more racism today than 10 years ago.

    10. Re:The good outweights the bad by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      The above post was posted courtesy of an iPhone 6S.

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    11. Re:The good outweights the bad by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      That would go to those whining today about 200+ years of past slavery 2 or more generations removed yet completely ignore the fact that it still exists in some countries.

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    12. Re:The good outweights the bad by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      The problem is those that are incapable of playing that game cry about it.

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    13. Re:The good outweights the bad by 0xG · · Score: 1

      So, to summarize:
      The world is an awesome place because:
      1) it's safer for humans
      2) we have lots of shiny stuff

      That is so anthropocentric it's unbelievable.

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    14. Re:The good outweights the bad by khallow · · Score: 1

      The big thing that is worse, I think, is economic inequality

      Except that this is not true either. There was a huge increase in income from about the 10% to 75% (that is, the two thirds of humanity who earned more than the bottom 10% and less than the top 25% over the past twenty years (actually 1988-2008). This has resulted in a considerable decline in global economic inequality despite the wealthiest managing to grow their portion of wealth over that time.

      A few days back, we had a couple of stories about how automation was taking away jobs. It was instructive how detached from reality the observations were. One person claimed global median income was stagnant (instead it increased over 60% during the above period as the above link shows). Or that automation this time wasn't resulting in the usual (centuries long trend BTW) increases in employment. But if they had chosen to look, they would have seen at the global scale the usual increase in human employment. It was just in areas that weren't part of the developed world.

      My point here is that we have a huge perception problem (this example is in the developed world, but there's nothing special about the developed world when it comes to provincial outlooks). If those previous stories had been about ferners takin' our jerbs away, it'd been laughed off as a clueless hick thing. But mersheens takin' our jerbs away? That's totally different even though the latter debate is driven by the same ignorance as the former.

    15. Re:The good outweights the bad by zlives · · Score: 1

      just be prepared for other historical norms as well then.

    16. Re:The good outweights the bad by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      The big thing that is worse, I think, is economic inequality

      In the US, yes. *World* economic inequality is falling.

    17. Re:The good outweights the bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes like the Cons will? Until you realize that both sides are just as bad, you will look the fool.

    18. Re:The good outweights the bad by Bartles · · Score: 1

      That's ridiculous. There is more money being taxed and spent now to reduce income inequality than ever before. And the inequality is consistently getting worse. The stupid solutions don't work for anyone except the people cashing in on the administration of these programs. They make society and the country weaker in the long run.

    19. Re:The good outweights the bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess. You don't know your neighbors, and spend most of your free time playing video games and jerking off to porn.

      What a wonderful world we live in!

      There are niggers riotting all over this country, and you believe there is "less racism".

      Tell that to the Mexicans who ethnically cleansed Los Angeles.

      It's remarkable how propaganda can delude such fools.

    20. Re:The good outweights the bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And for those who contribute, but don't get rewarded?

      I contributed many hundreds of hours to my employer during 2012/2013, and my employer was well compensated for my work.

      I was not. I was paid about two thirds of the legal minimum wage and told that if I didn't like it, I could quit, but if I complained to the authorities, I'd be unemployed and every employer in town would hear about what a bad employee I was.

      If I want adequately paid for my work, I'll never work again. That's the threat.

      That sounds fair. No, wait, the other one: that sounds unfair.

    21. Re:The good outweights the bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      income tax rate during Eisenhower: over 80% current tax rate on capital gains: 15% You sir are a liar. Fuck you.

    22. Re:The good outweights the bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent should be modded up. High levels of inequality lead to poverty. Poverty leads to a stressed out ignorant population that has to be more concerned with putting food on the table than political debates. Democracy cannot work in such a situation. Such a situation will lead to autocracy.

    23. Re:The good outweights the bad by Bartles · · Score: 1

      And you are an idiot who doesn't understand the difference between tax rates and revenue.

  14. Yes, them, w/big screen TVs and 22s, 3 yr unemploy by raymorris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > The jobless? The disenfranchised? The dispossessed and everyone else who loves to lick Obama's boot?

    Yes, them. Or are you COMPLETELY ignorant of history?

    At what other time in history could people take two or three years off work and collect unemployment benefits? Have a look at a picture or film of a low-income or rural area from a hundred years ago. Note the large number of children sick from hunger-related disease. Then drive through a modern low-income housing project. Note all the 22 inch rims.

    It's never incorrect to say "perhaps we could make things better". To say "things were better when people starved to death as opposed to today, when they might need to buy the generic-brand cheese with their EBT card" is outrageous. It just makes you look utterly ignorant.

    Or were you referring to today versus ten years ago? If your idea of history is the last ten years, then you're correct. In 2004, 5% of people were unemployed. Today, it's 7.5%.

  15. Look around and decide yourself, not on a forum. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is bad. I was at the local store waiting for it to open to buy some cigarattes. There were a few other guys standing next to me. This guy probably in his 60's, but looking much older walked by me and said something like 'homo faggot'. It was obvious not an insult for me, he was mentally insane. Well, next thing I knew one of the guys was saying 'don't cry, here take it'.

    It was a cheap hand rolled cigarette the guy was smoking. The crazy guy ran off, and the guys friend told him to hand the cigarette over to him.

    Its tragic, seeing someone that old cry over something like a cigarette. I tried to get the owner to open up a little faster because I wanted to catch up with him. By the time I got out of there he was gone. I bought one of those single shots of whiskey and some high quality cigarettes. I couldn't prescribe him meds obviously, I just wanted to make his day better.

    Well after a lot of running around looking for him, I saw someone sleeping in the grass across the street. I thought it must be him (this was 8am in the morning). So I run over across the street and its a woman. When I asked her if she had seen him I kind of startled her out of her sleep. She said she hadn't, and started talking to me about the pain in her legs. I was still looking for this guy, she did ask me what cigarettes were in my hand. I asked her if she wanted one and she took it, I offered her a light and she said she was going to save it for later. She seemed a nice person, I regret not taking a few minutes to talk. Just the fact she would start talking about her pain to a stranger it seemed obvious she needed someone to talk to.

    Never did find the guy.

    tl;dr: trying to help one homeless person, end up running into another trying to catch up with him

  16. Lies & Damn Lies by Orne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A wise politician one said, "Never let a crisis go to waste". If the public isn't agitated, they won't give up their liberties and control to the government.

    Crime rates are down, yet cops are more militarized than ever. Police shootings are rare. Gun violence is down. College campus sexual assault rates are actually 0.61%. The earth is not warming in 20 years. There is no missing heat in the oceans. Hurricanes and tornado count are at a historical low. Unemployment counting those not looking for work is at a 40 year high. Inflation in food (not counted) is huge, yet commodities (gold / oil) are deflating. College debt is crippling high, but so is general credit card debt.

    If you dig into the numbers behind the "official" numbers, everything is topsy turvy. That's why the public sees doom and gloom - everything they experience is counter to what we are being told, including articles saying "Don't panic".

    1. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      That's why the public sees doom and gloom - everything they experience is counter to what we are being told, including articles saying "Don't panic".

      If only those articles used a large, friendly font for their titles...

    2. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Politicians are as much to blame as the media.

      Few of their opponents are as bad as they paint them
      and fewer of their so-called solutions to the problems are as good.

      Too many pols create problems, then try to convince folks that
      only they could correct them....

    3. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The earth is not warming in 20 years.

      The Earth has been warming for more than 20 years. Hell, it's december 24th and it's fucking raining outside right now. The temperature three days ago was -15C, today the lowest is going to be 1C but in four days it's going back down to -16C. Don't tell me those are natural fluctuations because I'm over 40 and the weather hasn't been like that in my previous 30 years.

    4. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm over 40 and that doesn't seem unusual. It's called a warm front.

    5. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We used to always be in the -15C to -30C range for this period and nothing ever melted in december.

    6. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      I'm over 40 too and you know they do have averages but if you dig I'd wager you find a day the was over 10C in your area at some point.

      Hell go back 10,000 years and I'll bet it was -60C in your area.

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    7. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Crime rates are down, yet cops are more militarized than ever.

      I am not certain, but it's possible that the latter is causing the former.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    8. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by khallow · · Score: 1

      Don't tell me those are natural fluctuations because I'm over 40 and the weather hasn't been like that in my previous 30 years.

      Those are natural fluctuations. And the weather never has been like it is today and never will be like that ever again.

    9. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by khallow · · Score: 1

      I would wager that militarization of the police results in more crime. Because a) priorities become screwed up, and b) basic police services become more expensive.

    10. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Seems like a reasonable hypothesis.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    11. Re:Lies & Damn Lies by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Go back a little before that and the average temperature was 12c higher than now for hundreds of millions of years at a time.

      http://geology.utah.gov/survey...

      http://geology.utah.gov/survey...

      Basically, we are still in the middle of an ice age that peaked 20k years ago and started about 65 million years ago.

      In farenheit terms- we average 58 degrees globally today (and rising) and we averaged 72 degrees globally from 65 million years ago to 185 million years ago.

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  17. Good boundary conditions by mp.zwiers · · Score: 2

    The world is huge coupled dynamical system. It is good to see its state is moving in a good direction. However, as with many dynamical system, it is also a highly unstable. The current conditions are quite favorable, no real scarcity of our resources, no serious climate change, no world wars, no major deadly disease outbreaks etc. However, that doesn't mean that we can now lay back and assume that past performance is a good predictor of our future. If you disagree, think about it and tell me, what will happen to our beloved coupled dynamical system when we run out of oil (just to mention one thing which we know WILL happen not that long from now)...

    1. Re:Good boundary conditions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We may have energy shortages later but now everyone is bracing for the end of baby-boomer generation - wave of increased social security and healthcare expenses followed by oversupply of real-estate and diminished demand for services and industrial output.

    2. Re:Good boundary conditions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what will happen to our beloved coupled dynamical system when we run out of oil (just to mention one thing which we know WILL happen not that long from now)...

      Don't worry. As long as there's oxygen in the air, there'll be something to burn. We'll be dead by CO2 intoxication long before.

  18. Basic Income by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basic Income, not mentioned yet? Come on, seriously. The world isn't better until I get my butter!

  19. Interesting. I'd think the opposite by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a very interesting perspective.

    I'd say that the fundamental, defining difference between conservative thinking vs progressive is that while progressives say "let's change things for the better" conservatives say "don't throw the baby out with the bath water". Conservatives think America is basically pretty good, progressives think it needs it be "fundamentally transformed", as Obama put it. Progressives say "we need to do something" (and proposal X is something, so we need to do it). Conservatives think we shouldn't lose sight of the principles that once made this the greatest country on earth.

    If you belief, based on the news you see, that the place is falling apart, then indeed "we need to do something" (liberalism) is a reasonable response. If you believe life is pretty good, and slowly getting better, then you should stick with what's been working (conservatism). So I'd come to the opposite conclusion as you.

    If having more women in nursing and more men in programming is a terrible, horrible thing, then we have to do something about it. If black people can never succeed, if it's unimaginable that any black person could ever be a judge, a mayor, or a senator, then we need to do something about that. On the other hand, if black people can be judges, mayors, senators, and even president of the United States, then all the liberal progressivism is unnecessary, and indeed their complaints of being "kept down by the man" are just whining, excuses. If the society isn't basically racist, then Al Sharpton is out of a job. Progressivism REQUIRES big problems. If you don't believe there are big problems everywhere you look, you have no interest in liberals' big "solutions".

    Personally, I think some things could be improved. Liberals do a pretty good job at identifying the problems. However, they all-too-often fall into the trap of "we have to do something, and proposal X is something, so we have to do proposal X". Conservatives are hesitant to change things, so they don't screw things up. Perhaps the ideal would be for liberals to set the agenda of which problems we want to solve this year, then for conservatives beancounters to get out their calculators and figure out which proposed solutions have worked well elsewhere or in the past, and which ones are economically feasible. So the liberals force the conservatives to do SOMETHING, and the conservatives ensure that the SOMETHING has a reasonable chance of working, and without making us bankrupt.

    1. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by DutchUncle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... progressives say "let's change things for the better" conservatives say "don't throw the baby out with the bath water".

      You make some interesting and reasonable points. On the other hand, it often seems to *me* that the positions are more like progressives saying "we've got to do something about this problem" and conservatives saying "it was good enough for grandpa, it's fine, don't change anything". (I'll bet we could agree that both situations occur, and haggle over the percentage.) The polarization mentioned by many leads to an "If you're not with us, you're against us" attitude, which pushes those who might otherwise be moderate and thoughtful (on either side!) to the extremes.

    2. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's something I'd like to throw out there: perhaps Obama was elected more because he is black than despite being so. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that people wanted to make a statement about a black man* becoming president without him actually being the best person for the job.

      *I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton got in next time for much the same reason.

    3. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      conservatives saying "it was good enough for grandpa, it's fine, don't change anything".

      I think you'll find most conservatives actually saying "it wasn't so terrible for grandpa, so let's see how this new untested idea actually makes it better". There will always be people opposed to any sort of change, of course, but don't confuse evidence-based (as opposed to "it looks good on paper, let's do it") and outcome-based (as opposed to "what matters is the lawmaker's intentions were good") with anti-progress. Any seasoned engineer will tell you that the way you'll make the best progress is to test before you ship, because it's so much less effort to fix mistakes that way.

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    4. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anon-Admin · · Score: 2

      progressives say "let's change things for the better" conservatives say "don't throw the baby out with the bath water".

      Libertarians say "If it is Rosemary's Baby, through out the baby and the bath water and start over."

    5. Re: Interesting. I'd think the opposite by wheeda · · Score: 1

      But it is so much more fun putting new stuff together and seeing what happens. Besides, it makes your boss think you are doing something and are valuable. This assumes your boss isn't smart enough to understand the value of quality, and that each phase gate you go through makes mistakes cost 10x more to fix.

      Sadly the American people are like an ignorant boss, the vast majority only understand "doing something to help me now" instead of understanding the wider ramifications of a particular idea.

      As a semi-off topic example, both parties appear to fail to understand the wide ranging ramifications of failing to protect property rights of shareholders in FNMA and FMCC.

    6. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2

      Change for the sake of change is rarely if ever a good thing.

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    7. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So these so-called "conservatives" never change anything, right?
      And "liberals", they want to change everything all the time?
      WHO are these people in the real world?

      Your entire premise about "conservatives" and "liberals" is just plain wrong.

      People in power change the rules all the time. What are the real intentions behind these changes? Ask this sincerely, and you're on a great question of discovery.

      Captcha: murders

    8. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a very interesting perspective.

      I'd say that the fundamental, defining difference between conservative thinking vs progressive is that while progressives say "let's change things for the better" conservatives say "don't throw the baby out with the bath water". Conservatives think America is basically pretty good, progressives think it needs it be "fundamentally transformed", as Obama put it. Progressives say "we need to do something" (and proposal X is something, so we need to do it). Conservatives think we shouldn't lose sight of the principles that once made this the greatest country on earth.

      (Posting AC because I'm away from my primary system during the holidays).

      That's a convenient way to frame it, in that it conveniently leaves out a major aspect of conservatism, relative the point of the story.

      Conservatives also think the world is falling apart, just in different ways. They are more likely to have a golden Norman-Rockwell-esque image of the greatest country on earth. When they compare reality to this, reality falls short, and they often attribute this disparity to either intentional changes by " 'dem Librals" or to newly ascendant or prominent groups (take your pick: black people, scientists, "the gays", atheists, immigrants legal and not...), and demonize them in the process.

      So let's be honest: when you talk about Convervatives not wanting to change things too hastily, what you're leaving out is that Conservatives don't want change period, and are hostile not only to the political change, but to the people who don't fit into their image of what made America "the greatest country on earth".

      This vitriol is what progressives find so offensive.

      This is glib and one sided, but no more so than the parent post.

    9. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a bit flawed.

      >If you belief, based on the news you see, that the place is falling apart, then indeed "we need to do something" (liberalism) is a reasonable response. If you believe life is pretty good, and slowly getting better, then you should stick with what's been working (conservatism). So I'd come to the opposite conclusion as you.

      Sometimes, but not always. The opposite could be true: Progressives thinking society is good getting better, and saying that their changes and activism are what's making society better; where Conservatives say "things were good before we started making changes, so stop!"

    10. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by khallow · · Score: 1

      Yes, let's get pouty about those cruel, ebil libertarians who are holding us back.

    11. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, it often seems to *me* that the positions are more like progressives saying "we've got to do something about this problem" and conservatives saying "it was good enough for grandpa, it's fine, don't change anything".

      And I end up with a completely different impression. It seems to me like progressives say "we've got to do something about this problem," and conservatives saying "It wasn't a problem for grandpa, so we should go back to the rules we had in grandpa's day." Because, apparently, since everything is getting worse all the time, people were better off before child labor laws, voting rights, and financial regulation.

    12. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Conservatives are hesitant to change things, so they don't screw things up."

      I think that "conservatives" have a huge gap between what they say they want and what they actually achieve.

      Were corporations historically people? Did conservatives change that. Yup.

      Was america historically a torture state? Did conservatives change that? Yup.

      Was america founded on religious principles, being one nation under god? Or did conservatives change that? Yup.

      Was hemp and marijuana historically demonized? Did conservatives change that because they feared the blacks and mexicans? Yup.

      I can obviously find hundreds of more examples of conservatives changing things for the worse. Saying that conservatives want things to stay the same does not equate with the rise of corporatism in the us in the last 40 years. Nor does it equate with the greed is good and inequality is great mentality which predominates conservative thought.

      You might just have to realize that "conservatives" are far from the historical definition of conservatives "resistance to change" and other attributes. Oh how I wish it were so. America wouldn't have killed hundreds of thousands in iraq, corporations wouldn't be people, wealth inequality would go back to 1950s levels, and do nothing bankers would be vilified as the enemies of real working people.

      In short, there is absolutely nothing conservative about today's so called american conservatives. It's a fiction, a more friendly name on the pro corporate anti public interest party. I would name it the fascist party, matching it up to a proper historical definition. If anyone was allowed to use that term anymore.

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    13. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're painting with a *very broad brush here ... and making yourself look far more partisan than you likely intend.
      Why this got modded insightful is beyond me as it pretty clearly appears to be flamebait.
      Conservatives "don't want to screw anything up" and "ensure something has a reasonable chance of working" while progressivism and liberals "REQUIRE(s) big problems and provide "whining excuses" ... real impartiality there.

      If conservatives are the party of sane proven choices how come most of the opposition from blanket body camera coverage on cops comes from 'conservatives' when it's proven that it's both both cost and goal effective?
      (the study referenced today on /. is just the latest in a long line)

    14. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Gavrielkay · · Score: 1

      Conservatives are hesitant to change things, so they don't screw things up.

      That might be true of conservative individuals. I think most Americans if you just sit them down for a nice chat are reasonable people. We tend to understand that there is room for improvement and solutions might not be simple or comfortable for everyone.

      Politics is a whole 'nother thing though. Politics in America is about nothing more than hot-button issues and campaign posters now. No one wants an actual solution to any problem in Congress. Why? Because if something gets solved, it can't be used as a wedge issue for the next election. Or worse, the "other side' might get the credit for solving something. No one in our government wants solutions and they aren't working towards any.

      Until the 80% of Americans who are reasonable people wanting real solutions get up and get involved, things will continue to deteriorate. With voter turnout of 40% or less, we're letting the extremists make the decisions and we're getting exactly the government we deserve.

    15. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen any president being the best person for the job.
      Obama won, because he ran flawless campaigns. Greatly reduced the amount of dirt that can be dug up. Any dirt that was, was treated well and marginalized.

      2008 - People were tired of Bush, so any democrat had a chance. McCain, was too old, so people needed to judge the VP candidate as well, and Palian was just the worst pick you could make. For a candidate who needed to push a moderate campaign.

      2012 - Romney failed to make himself genuine. Being very conservative for the primary, then trying to seem moderate for the main election just didn't work.

      Sure being black helped the democrat party solidify a base who often had low voter turnout to vote, as well a lot of people wanted to see things differently. But all in all it was about how good of a marketing campaign it was.

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    16. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by blahplusplus · · Score: 2

      Problem is both the above posters are ignorant. Modern publics are so illusioned they don't know which end is up.

      Reasoning and the human brain doesn't work the way we thought it did:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Manufacturing consent

      http://www.amazon.com/Manufact...

      Most have no clue what's really going on in the world... the elites are afraid of political awakening.

      This (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Brezinski at a press conference

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      The real news:

      http://therealnews.com/t2/
      http://www.amazon.com/Democrac...
      http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-G...
      http://www.amazon.com/National...

      Look at the following graphs:

      IMGUR link - http://imgur.com/a/FShfb

      http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

      And then...

      WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Free markets?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Free trade?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      http://www.amazon.com/Empire-I...

      "We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

      In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

      Important history:

      http://williamblum.org/

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    17. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Bartles · · Score: 1

      Shut up. It's easier to just blame Fox News.

    18. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

      OMG, really? That is how you took that statement?

      #1) I have run for state office as a Libertarian
      #2) I am a proud supporter of the party.
      #3) That was a reference to the 2000 Libertarian presidential TV spots.

    19. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally, I think some things could be improved. Liberals do a pretty good job at identifying the problems. However, they all-too-often fall into the trap of "we have to do something, and proposal X is something, so we have to do proposal X". Conservatives are hesitant to change things, so they don't screw things up. Perhaps the ideal would be for liberals to set the agenda of which problems we want to solve this year, then for conservatives beancounters to get out their calculators and figure out which proposed solutions have worked well elsewhere or in the past, and which ones are economically feasible. So the liberals force the conservatives to do SOMETHING, and the conservatives ensure that the SOMETHING has a reasonable chance of working, and without making us bankrupt.

      Seeing as they are all bought & paid for by the same big business money, I don't really think it matters much anymore.

      So if you like having toxic water, or no water, or GMO foods, or non-GMO foods, or want gas guzzling cars or electric cars, or a vast number of other choices... well, tough shit, you don't have a choice - you'll get what they want you to have, like it or not.

    20. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you you're not being a very effective supporter when making a stupid, obscure reference about an ad that happened 14 years ago.

    21. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Livius · · Score: 1

      I disagree. The fundamental difference between 'conservative' and 'progressive' thinking is that conservatives assume everyone will misuse new opportunities, and progressives assume no-one will.

      Both are very wrong.

    22. Re:Interesting. I'd think the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      progressives say "let's change things for the better" conservatives say "don't throw the baby out with the bath water".

      Libertarians say "If it is Rosemary's Baby, through out the baby and the bath water and start over."

      You had the word 'throw' correctly spelled right in front of you yet you chose to ignore it. Not helping your credibility.

      --
      .nosig

  20. It may become worse in Sweden by aliquis · · Score: 1

    Because even if the people from the middle-east and Africa develop for the better and people in Sweden do so to we still bring people from the middle-east and Africa to Sweden and they may lag behind in humanity. .. If nothing else they cost money due to the well-fare system.

  21. Societal issues don't define stability. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Resources define stability. This is a pretty basic fact about any society, take away a resource, watch it shit its metaphorical pants.

    There is going to be a huge resource crunch in the next half century as more nations become developed.
    And unless huge breakthroughs are made in energy storage, solar and wind power is not going to be an acceptable way to make them happy since power grids are horrifically complex. (green energy is already a pain to deal with in developed countries with regards to pushing it back in to the power grid)
    Fusion, likewise, seriously needs to go somewhere in that time. If it doesn't, I honestly fear for those times.
    The issues of "oh no, we'll totally run out of fuel, again!" with regards to oil are nonsense, but the REAL issue is PRODUCTION RATES, and those wouldn't be high enough to power so many of those developed nations at once.
    Food is getting harder to manage as well, and because nobody seems to be making a huge push for industrial scale aquaponics, insect farming, vertical farming and other highly efficient food production methods, we are going to be stuck with large expanses of land being used for food, horrible living conditions in cities, more cramped cities, almost certainly more conflict due to that as well.

    ALL problems are directly routed in resources, not "i'm so upset that he is being a big meany!" (feelings).
    Feelings has never been a pusher for a better society. In fact, it is its detriment.

    1. Re:Societal issues don't define stability. by khallow · · Score: 1

      There is going to be a huge resource crunch in the next half century as more nations become developed. And unless huge breakthroughs are made in energy storage, solar and wind power is not going to be an acceptable way to make them happy since power grids are horrifically complex. (green energy is already a pain to deal with in developed countries with regards to pushing it back in to the power grid)

      Another problem solved by Slashdot. Next.

  22. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    you also have sites like slate, salon, msnbc turning everyday americans into total idiotic drones

  23. That's a lot of assumptions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like saying democracy is better than any other forms of governing. You pretty much have to be an idiot to think that letting the majority of people decide what's best for EVERYBODY is a good idea. Democracy sounds like such a great idea for the simple reason, the majority of you are idiots.

  24. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The negative is where we can make the most improvements and where we need to pay attention so it don't get worse.

    Your grammar fucking sucks.

    There, was that a good example of a negative showing where we can make the most improvements?

    Far more interesting that things that are going well.

    Yeah, but that being a grammar nazi that can be fun. Fuck that positive shit.

  25. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yea the conservatives are becoming extremists. That's why I see chants of "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now", and then a guy drives to NYC and kills 2 cops.

    I think you are so delusional its laughable. Its the left that has fomented hatred to the point where murders are actually happening. Its now significantly more dangerous to be a good cop in NYC this week than a month ago solely because of extremists liberals, like... President Obama, Eric Holder, the Mayor of NYC. I don't see John Bohner or Mitch McConnel telling people all cops are racists bastards.

  26. Pinker cannot reduce everything to numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you trumpet the reduced number of children being victims of violence - you miss the number of parents who had to curtail their children's independence to make that number happen.

    When you boast of the relatively low numbers of terrorist victims - you miss the restrictions on freedom which were required to achieve those low numbers.

  27. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by geekmux · · Score: 0

    You have sites like Fox News turning relatively moderate conservatives into extream conservatives. Due to the flood of negativity poison. Where before many issues were not a big deal or some supported it, now have became a polarizing issue.

    Polarizing issue?

    That's a very good description of the world we live in today, for those "issues" were electrified long ago by lawyers.

    Yes, it would help if every damn thing we form an opinion on today wasn't able to be turned into a lawsuit of some kind.

    Which it can be.

    And is.

    This of course sets this little thing called precedent, which brings me right back around to that electrically charged society hell-bent on getting the opportunity to "strike it rich" some day through litigation.

    No wonder people play. Lawyers created odds far better than the lottery, that's for damn sure.

  28. As Bad as Ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article got one thing wrong. It's not that the world is "getting worse," it's just as bad as it's ever been.

    Wars occur ever single day and it's been like that since the beginning of nature. People were starving and oppressed centuries ago, and they still are today. What, if anything, has changed?

    The nature of humans is the same today as it was 10,000 years ago. Because of that, we are still in the same boat. The environment has changed, the problems have changed, but the state of things is the same. When someone in The West claims things are getting better, it's because the person is deceived by the wave of western success. If you look at the world as a whole, it's still a violent, scary place.

    1. Re:As Bad as Ever by khallow · · Score: 1

      The nature of humans is the same today as it was 10,000 years ago. Because of that, we are still in the same boat. The environment has changed, the problems have changed, but the state of things is the same. When someone in The West claims things are getting better, it's because the person is deceived by the wave of western success. If you look at the world as a whole, it's still a violent, scary place.

      Well, it is a less violent and scary place. That has changed.

  29. So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by Rambo+Tribble · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... are social? Global warming, over-population, every ecosystem on the planet in decline, ravaged fish stocks, depleted soils, widespread environmental contamination, a loss of green spaces, habitat and species, and on, and on don't reflect on the world's condition? Let the rainbows and unicorns run wild!

    1. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by jpellino · · Score: 2

      Many of those are in fact due to the behavior of individuals - deciding who gets money and who gets water, food, fuel, space and time. Humans interact on an individual level first, and lots of that gets lost when you believe an entire corporation is functionally (not just for the original narrow purpose of legal liability) is a person. We do not have a food problem on this planet. We have a distribution problem. That means a network isn't working, and that network is at its core made of individuals.

      --
      "Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
    2. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by Rambo+Tribble · · Score: 1

      " We do not have a food problem on this planet."

      With every ecosystem used to grow that food degraded or collapsing, and with the means of growing and distributing food producing pollutants and expending irreplaceable resources, we do in fact, have a food problem.

    3. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by khallow · · Score: 1

      Yes, Note that all of those problems are solvable, should we decide they are worth solving.

    4. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think ANY of those problems mentioned are actually solvable, although we can certainly slow down the rate at which the planets ecosystems are being screwed up should we decide that is worth doing. Based on past and current environmental policies worldwide, even slowing things down looks like kind of a longshot.

    5. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by khallow · · Score: 1

      I don't think ANY of those problems mentioned are actually solvable

      Let's consider a counterexample:

      ravaged fish stocks

      Solution: fish less so that the fish stocks recover to a sustainable level.

    6. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The oceans have been overfished for centuries. To bring it down to a truly sustainable level, fish take would have to be reduced by something enormous like maybe 90%. That's setting aside problems related to pollution, climate change, ocean acidification, invasive species and diseases, and so on. The odds of this happening are somewhere around negative infinity.

    7. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by khallow · · Score: 1

      To bring it down to a truly sustainable level, fish take would have to be reduced by something enormous like maybe 90%.

      There you go. Even you can think of a solution, if you really try.

      Let's move on to the other problems you mentioned:

      Global warming: adaptation, change albedo of urban areas, greenhouse gases reduction, geoengineering.

      over-population: Make less people. One way is to keep getting wealthier. Wealthy people have less children.

      every ecosystem on the planet in decline: increase habitat and reduce habitat fragmentation, create genome archives for endangered species, determine ways to increase the rate of natural speciation.

      ravaged fish stocks: already solved this one earlier.

      depleted soils: This is a long solved problem. For example, grow legumes in a field every so often and leaving the field fallow for a year out of four or five.

      widespread environmental contamination: pollute less and focus on cleaning up contamination that is actually environmentally significant.

      a loss of green spaces: make more green spaces

      habitat and species: already addressed with the "ecosystems in decline" problem.

      In addition, overpopulation really is a bigger class of problem with almost all of the other problems highly dependent on it.

    8. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by Rambo+Tribble · · Score: 1

      Yes, those are viable solutions, if you take about 4 or 5 billion people out of the equation.

    9. Re:So, the sum of humanity's problems ... by khallow · · Score: 1

      Yes, those are viable solutions, if you take about 4 or 5 billion people out of the equation.

      Or even if you don't. Someone just has to choose to implement them. That's why they're primarily social problems.

  30. Re:Yes, them, w/big screen TVs and 22s, 3 yr unemp by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

    Agree with everything you said except your unemployment statistic (assuming we're talking USA here). November 2004 it was 5.5%. November 2014 it was 5.8%

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries...

  31. Measurements! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As populations age, many of these bad behaviors tend to slow down. How about normalizing these statistics to the age distribution before declaring victory...

  32. The arc is long by T.E.D. · · Score: 2

    Its pretty easy to find places where this is clearly not true (eg: Syria). But those are localized places and times. That's like finding a place where entropy seems to be decreasing; you can do that, but that only means elsewhere it increased more. Human society seems to follow Theodore Parker's principle: The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice.

    This seems like a good place and time for my favorite Christmas song, written by Longfellow after he'd lost his entire family (wife included) during the Civil War:

    I heard the bells on Christmas day Their old familiar carols play, And wild and sweet the words repeat Of peace on earth, good will to men.

    I thought how, as the day had come, The belfries of all Christendom Had rolled along th'unbroken song Of peace on earth, good will to men.

    And in despair I bowed my head: "There is no peace on earth," I said, "For hate is strong and mocks the song Of peace on earth, good will to men."

    Then pealed the bells more loud and deep: "God is not dead, nor doth he sleep; The wrong shall fail, the right prevail, With peace on earth, good will to men."

    Till, ringing, singing, on its way, The world revolved from night to day, A voice, a chime, a chant sublime, Of peace on earth, good will to men!

    1. Re:The arc is long by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      written by Longfellow after he'd lost his entire family (wife included) during the Civil War:

      Someone seems to have embellished the tale a bit. Longfellow did not lose his entire faimly in the Civil War. The poem was written after his eldest son Charles was wounded, not killed, in battle; he wouldn't die until 1893, eleven years after his father. His wife was burned to death in a household accident in 1861. He wrote a different poem about that death, "The Cross of Snow", eighteen years later.

  33. Yep. well, 5.4% by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I had accidentally looked at 2013 rather than 2014. The average for 2013 was 7.5%. BLS says November 2004 was 5.4%, not 5.5% - close enough. If we're trying to compare this year to ten years ago, looking at just November only is a bit misleading, though.

    For 2014:
    Jan 6.6
    Feb 6.7
    Mar 6.7
    Apr 6.3
    May 6.3
    Jun 6.1
    Jul 6.2
    Aug 6.1
    Sep 5.9
    Oct 5.8
    Nov 5.8

    1. Re:Yep. well, 5.4% by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Blast! Misquoted my own quote!

      Agree with this post as well...but possibly for a different reason. 2014's downward trend in unemployment is much steeper than 2004's was. For obvious reasons of course, but a good thing(TM) none the less. Thus quoting one month's statistic is misleading because it hides even better news.

  34. Why do you think with evidence against you? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    The big thing that is worse, I think, is economic inequality,

    If everything is getter better in terms of quality of life, and economic inequality is growing, then how can you EI as bad?

    At the very least it's not bad enough to matter.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Why do you think with evidence against you? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      The largest place I see ei playing out is in things in limited quantity.

      Most the population is being priced out of things which used to be generally free or affordable.

      In texas, the beaches were always free but now some stretches are being locked up. On the east coast, large stretches of beach are "private".

      Amusement parks are grossly over crowded but if you have money (5x the standard price), you don't have a line.

      Collectables that used to be affordable if you saved up are now going for more than your entire life income because when a person has a billion dollars they can afford to drop a million dollars on a comic book.

      Likewise, there are private ski resorts, special "extra money" ski privileges in areas that used to be affordable to all and equally open to all.

      Likewise for the front rows at concerts, opening nights for shows.

      When the wealthiest made 52x what the rest did, their spending was constrained. They could have anything but they couldn't have everything. Now at 350x to 452x, they can pretty much have everything special and unique.

      The balance of wealth between the richest and poorest in society determines how we share rare things in our society. Currently, we've reached a point where the richest get everything and even the "non-rich" get a lot less than they did in the past.

      --
      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  35. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

    The guy who drove to NYC and killed two cops was a nut-case who should have been locked up for earlier incidents. Similarly, I think the cop responsible for the death in NYC was guilty of at least accidental homicide (I think he meant to arrest the victim, not any worse, though I do not understand from the video why the incident was escalated to a physical confrontation). Neither reflects the average person - which is the point of the original article.

  36. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea the conservatives are becoming extremists. That's why I see chants of "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now"

    Because you get all your news from Fox and Fox planted stooges to do the chanting so they could "prove" extreme anti-cop feelings.

  37. Spiraling into a Super Massive Black Hole by Sentrion · · Score: 1

    As I type our galaxy is spiraling into a super massive black hole. It is way past the year two thousand, and we are way behind schedule building intergalactic arks to escape this calamity. We don't even have moon bases, foot prints on Mars, or even personal robotic assistants. Hell, we are still burning fossil fuels and wiping with paper. How is this not the world falling apart?

    1. Re:Spiraling into a Super Massive Black Hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I type our galaxy is spiraling into a super massive black hole. It is way past the year two thousand, and we are way behind schedule building intergalactic arks to escape this calamity. We don't even have moon bases, foot prints on Mars, or even personal robotic assistants. Hell, we are still burning fossil fuels and wiping with paper. How is this not the world falling apart?

      See that is what you get when you vote republican.. just remember this every time you vote.. every time!

    2. Re:Spiraling into a Super Massive Black Hole by Livius · · Score: 1

      And where are our flying cars?

  38. Um... by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    Slashdots just as guilty of this as anywhere else...

    A month or two ago I was getting modded troll left and right for suggesting that Ebola wasn't about to ravage North America and kill millions of people.

  39. Nothing new by Kinthelt · · Score: 1

    The media are not getting any more sensational than they used to be. Just rip open your local turn-of-the-century (e.g. 114 years ago) newspaper archives. They used to report on *everything*.

    --

    "Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)

  40. True, but misleading by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

    The music was probably just getting good on the Titanic as the band warmed up for the evening. There are still nuclear weapons and touchy world leaders in charge of them. Ebola may yet achieve full destructive power, particularly if a terrorist or two decide to self-infect and take a trip to New York City, Moscow or Saudi. Despite the recent developments in oil, "peak oil" or rather gradual hydrocarbon depletion and rising costs is going to bite us very hard in the next 50 years, like it or not. The world economy is a farcical house of cards, ready to crumble at any time.

    So yeah, lower crime rates. Lower infant mortality. Yay.

    But it can all disappear in a heartbeat.

    --
    Please do not read this sig. Thank you.
  41. moral activists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem is, one person's moral is another person's sin. It's all very subjective. One person says it is getting better and another says it's getting worse. It's a matter of opinion.

    Who is the criminal, Robin Hood or the Sheriff of Nottingham?

  42. Aaron Sorkin, The Newsroom ... by Curlsman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aaron Sorkin, The Newsroom, and the greatest country in the world

    For all the later melodramatic histrionics that did not work, Aaron Srokin hit this subject in the opening of The Newsroom, where just ignoring the evidence for ratings doesn't do anybody any kind of justice.

    Transcript and comments from Sorkin:
      http://www.gq.com/entertainmen...

    "Fine. [to the liberal panelist] Sharon, the NEA is a loser. Yeah, it accounts for a penny out of our paychecks, but he [gesturing to the conservative panelist] gets to hit you with it anytime he wants. It doesn't cost money, it costs votes. It costs airtime and column inches. You know why people don't like liberals? Because they lose. If liberals are so fuckin' smart, how come they lose so GODDAM ALWAYS!
    And [to the conservative panelist] with a straight face, you're going to tell students that America's so star spangled awesome that we're the only ones in the world who have freedom? Canada has freedom, Japan has freedom, the UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Australia, Belgium has freedom. Two hundred seven sovereign states in the world, like 180 of them have freedom.

    And you, sorority girl, yeah, just in case you accidentally wander into a voting booth one day, there are some things you should know, and one of them is that there is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country in the world. We're seventh in literacy, twenty seventh in math, twenty second in science, forty ninth in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, third in median household income, number four in labor force, and number four in exports. We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending, where we spend more than the next twenty six countries combined, twenty five of whom are allies. None of this is the fault of a 20 year old college student, but you, nonetheless, are without a doubt, a member of the WORST period GENERATION period EVER period, so when you ask what makes us the greatest country in the world, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about?! Yosemite?!!!

    We sure used to be. We stood up for what was right! We fought for moral reasons, we passed and struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors, we put our money where our mouths were, and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and cultivated the world's greatest artists and the world's greatest economy. We reached for the stars, and we acted like men. We aspired to intelligence; we didn't belittle it; it didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election, and we didn't scare so easy. And we were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed. By great men, men who were revered. The first step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one, America is not the greatest country in the world anymore."

    1. Re:Aaron Sorkin, The Newsroom ... by phantomfive · · Score: 0

      And we were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed. By great men, men who were revered.

      Well that's sexist, ignore him.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    2. Re:Aaron Sorkin, The Newsroom ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We sure used to be. We stood up for what was right! We fought for moral reasons, we passed and struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors, we put our money where our mouths were, and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and cultivated the world's greatest artists and the world's greatest economy. We reached for the stars, and we acted like men. We aspired to intelligence; we didn't belittle it; it didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election, and we didn't scare so easy. And we were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed. By great men, men who were revered. The first step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one, America is not the greatest country in the world anymore."

      What's ironic about this is the period he was talking about was surely more racist than today. People cared about their neighbors... as long as they weren't black. They cured diseases... by testing syphilis on blacks (and there was already a cure). FDR and others conspired to introduce Jewish quotas in some colleges and universities (similar to some Asian quotas today). And if that paragraph covers a later period (the '60s) then people did identify themselves by who they voted for and people did oppose the space program (notably some blacks who were focused on jobs and Civil Rights and thought the whole thing was a waste of money; see the song "Whitey on the Moon"). The world is a complex place.

      If there's a problem in American politics, it's this idea of "I am on the side of righteousness while my opponents are ignorant idiots filled with cupidity" which this paragraph represents. It prevents compromises and negotiations. Why would you negotiate with someone evil or unprincipled? You wouldn't. So you better not change your demands or try to understand their position. No, no. That could lead to compromising *your* principles.

    3. Re:Aaron Sorkin, The Newsroom ... by Curlsman · · Score: 1

      Of all the criticism that Sorkin got from the media about The Newsroom, no one seemed to explain why most of the primetime or premier talking heads are white and male.
      And it was better, at least in the SF Bay area:
      For 40 years, a black man, Dennis Richmond was a noticeable reporter, and for his last 30 or so years on air, an anchor.
      Similarly, a black woman, Belva Davis, for over 50 years worked in various news organizations, including 30 years as an anchor.

    4. Re:Aaron Sorkin, The Newsroom ... by strikethree · · Score: 1

      The last paragraph speaks thunderously loud.

      --
      "Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
  43. Ok... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    Don't think Stephen is under any illusions about those are tradeoffs - but then given the numbers, it's up to each individual to decide if they're worth it. There are also people who imagine the world could be Burning Man with better cell service, and that also has unforeseen consequences.

    --
    "Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
    1. Re:Ok... by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      No the tradeoffs aren't worth it. Even if not for us for our children.

      --
      I am Bennett Haselton! I am Bennett Haselton!
  44. Completely Missing the Point by 0xG · · Score: 1
    OK so violence at many levels is down. Someone has already mentioned economic inequality, and that's certainly a trend in the wrong direction. And power is increasingly in the hands of a few who are increasingly entrenched. Climate change, pollution, loss of habitat and loss of species are at crisis levels. Recovery will take hundreds of thousands of years! The oceans are becoming a sterile garbage dump. The very concept of privacy is being pushed aside.

    Not to mention that violent crime and rape are at their lowest level since the 70's. The world is an awesome place now

    That's a very narrow assessment.

    --
    A pox on web designers who feel that window.innerWidth == screen.availWidth
  45. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Mariner28 · · Score: 1

    Yea the conservatives are becoming extremists. That's why I see chants of "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now", and then a guy drives to NYC and kills 2 cops.

    I think you are so delusional its laughable. Its the left that has fomented hatred to the point where murders are actually happening. Its now significantly more dangerous to be a good cop in NYC this week than a month ago solely because of extremists liberals, like... President Obama, Eric Holder, the Mayor of NYC. I don't see John Bohner or Mitch McConnel telling people all cops are racists bastards.

    Yeah, stand behind the cowardice of anonymity.

    That little chant you're referring to was purposely edited to inflame idiots just like you. Google "fox affiliate Baltimore edit protest video".

    Are you really implying that President Obama, Eric Holder, and Bill DiBlasio said that all cops are racists? Put your money where your mouth is and post links to references.

    Oh - and did I say "you're an idiot"? Yeah, I did.

    --
    "A little misunderstanding? Galileo and the Pope had a little misunderstanding."
  46. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 1

    Overall, I understand the point of the article and I agree with it... but there's still something faintly disturbing that it is even necessary to report that there is less genocide than there used to be.

  47. A better world for women and SJWs, not for men. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A better world for women and SJWs, not for men.

    Men are piled high in prisons to make this "better world". Men are fleeced (by women and their govt courts) to make this "better world".

    There needs to be a revolt against this "better world" and the people who created the "better world" need to be executed.

    A good world is a world where men can have girls as brides
    (child marriage of girls to men is allowed in the Old Testament: Deuteronomy 22 28-29 in hebrew))

  48. Inquisition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.

  49. It all started with CNN by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2

    Or at least the 24-hour news cycle did when they covered the girl in the well story endlessly. To make matters worse, social media is enabling bogus memes to spread like kudzu. There's an important phrase that people should be taught and that is "Totality of the circumstances." What this means is that these bogus memes are almost always one-sided counting on the gullibility of the viewer to accept it as fact without knowing that there are circumstances and facts that happened which are conveniently skipped lest they burst the bubble of the narrative.

  50. not in my world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how does anybody in the 99% claim things have even stayed at status quo, my wages have dropped every year from 1998.................
    The cost of living have gone up much more than anyone will admit.
    most every person I have to deal with has become a total asshole, who is looking to cheat me or steal from me.
      I am a middle aged white male - and there is a huge shift in perception as to what i am, females think i am a rapist waiting on an opening to assult, the cops think I am there best source of income
    Oh hell who cares ---------- i'm just another pissed off asshole

  51. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep, 2 cops dead, and I'm the idiot because I DARED point it out. Sorry you found a faked video, but I wasn't talking about that one. I guess Fox News once again was the ONLY place that played this one story since you are completely ignorant on the subject.

    Take your hatred and name calling somewhere else. Its the name calling that is causing the problems, and you just piled it higher and deeper. You should be ashamed of yourself, but instead you are probably proud.

  52. Not misleading by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

    I doubt that the information we are getting is misleading so much as we were less aware of how much awful was happening in the world. The world may be getting better, but what that actually means is that if we knew as much about world X years ago, it would be horrifying in comparison.

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  53. It is falling apart. by genner · · Score: 1

    All this proves is that it's been falling apart for a long time. It still is just a little slower.

  54. both by Cardoor · · Score: 1

    as eckhart tolle once said when asked about whether the world is getting better/awakening or spiraling down into darkness... the answer is 'both'. so on the one hand, while the descent is very real and significant, it seems that a growing number (massive number i think in fact) are (being shocked sometimes into) waking up to the truer nature of things, and real-eyes-ing that there is far more going on than what see-an-end (cnn) talks about. love is coming.

    but for it to find us, we need to take responsibility for the condition of our hearts.

  55. Ecclesiastes 7:10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This topic was mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastes.

    7:10 Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this.

  56. The unusual is always more newsworthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to live in the north-west English town of Rochdale. This is town with a high crime rate, where I remember reports of houses being fire-bombed were not exactly rare.

    But because crime was so common, it wasn't as newsworthy as it might be elsewhere, so even a house being fire-bombed rarely rated more than a few column centimetres on page seven of the local paper unless someone was seriously injured or killed.

    Now I'm lucky enough to live in the East Anglian town of Ipswich, which imperfect as it might be has one of the lowest crime rates for any English town of its size. Which means that crimes, being less common, are more newsworthy to the local paper. And you can be sure that if a house here were to be fire-bombed, it would make a big splash on the front page of the paper.

    The result is that despite Ipswich residents being FAR less likely to be the victims of crime, the different reporting of crime means that most of them believe themselves to be much more likely to be victims than they are.

  57. What's REALLY Important.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as Slashdot is not falling apart, I'm not too worried about the world.

  58. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

    Yea the conservatives are becoming extremists. That's why I see chants of "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now", and then a guy drives to NYC and kills 2 cops.

    You had conversations with these people about political philosophy? That must have been pretty interesting. Was that before or after the police officers were murdered?

    Also, it seems to me that the level of anti-authoritarianism that would lead to murdering police officers is not what the Republicans typically associate with liberals.

  59. Tis the season by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

    to state the obvious. Come on, can we please have some hard facts and details and not this editorial bullshit?

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    http://www.acetonestudio.com
  60. "An evidence-based mindset ..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What?! "Evidence-based"?!! He speaketh heresy! Heresy, I say!

    Where would we be without artificially beat-up, emotive, politically motivated, controlling and (often) downright incorrect "news" to tell us what hot button needs to be pushed today?

  61. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've kind of wondered though, is it ok to drive the negativity and employ fear tactics as the media is currently doing to raise personal accountability & integrity for society. Fear tactics sound particularly nasty here, but what if that's the only way to reach all the half-wits to educate them on what's acceptable in society. What if by making people feel bad by watching the news at night it inspires them to be better people the next day.

    I derive this from the other extreme and that's what if all news was positive, I think there's potential there to encourage complacency & apathy all of which will ultimately stall social / economic progress. Thereby, maybe the free speech system works itself into what people want seeing as the news are based on ratings like anything else & that's negative news.

    This of course is different from sourceless reporting, political manipulating of the news, & false articles, which are all "mistakes" / hiccups in the news system and appropriately carry rating consequences if exposed.

  62. Rose colored glasses by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, some things are improving. But others are not. And to say that the things these people picked define "the world" is nothing more than hubris.

    There are many things that are not improving. Some of them bode extremely poorly for the future. Climate may be one of those (or not... we will see.) Loss of privacy is another. Militarization of police is another. Constitutional erosion is another. A continuously increasing burden of badly crafted and anti-liberty legislation is another. The US justice system is a horror show from one end to the other. We're presently building a mostly unemployable permanent lower class by the continuing and increased implementation of never forgive, never forget social patterns and supporting technology. The vast majority of wealth has become concentrated in the hands of a very few people and corporations, and those same people and corporations have assumed de-facto control of our political system everywhere it does something that matters to them.

    Depending on where you sit in regard to these issues, and others, your world may be sucking harder on an ever-increasing curve.

    The world is what it is. Happy-assed optimism isn't called for outside of your own situation, and only then if that's how you see it.

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    I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
    1. Re:Rose colored glasses by dryeo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How are things compared to aprox. hundred years ago? WWI was in full swing with America about to join, the Constitution was being ignored in many ways, eg people being thrown in jail for distributing pamphlets and the Supreme Court OKing it by comparing free speech to yelling fire in a theatre, wealth was concentrating much like today, the corruption of the government was even more open then now with industrialists openly talking about the Senators they owned. The justice system was probably much worst if you were guilty of being the wrong colour or very poor or pushing for worker rights with jury nullification regularly used to let murderers off. The Prohibition mind set was getting louder and louder which soon led to the militarization of the police and the expanding of federal power.
      Things always seem worse in the present and it is always hard to see how things were in the past.

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
    2. Re:Rose colored glasses by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 1

      Anyone giving credence to this click bait "debate" being ass's with only two cheeks: Better or worse.

      Some things go up, some things go down....until they don't.

      Some things oscillate with various periods including chaotic ones. (e.g. "morality")

      Some things go from horrific (e.g. Slavery) to slightly less than average (e.g. low wage slavery/poverty) and vice versa.

      Some things have NEVER been acceptable in almost the entirely of recorded human history. (e.g. wealthy elite calling the shots in their favour)

      Some things, and this will really blow your mind, the very DEFINITION of what is good and bad changes over time, culture and geographic location?! (e.g. Acceptable Quality of Life)

      And of course, everyone's definitions of all the above differ from person to person.

      To stand on mount Olympus and start making proclamations like these authors have is just ridiculous - almost as ridiculous as discussing it as if it was worthwhile.

      HERE ARE THE RULES FOLKS: Things are what they are and can always be better worse than that.

      I personally am a great believer and advocate of continuous improvement. I do not accept that in important areas the status quo should never be challenged and analysed for improvement.

      And you should NOT always turn the other cheek, just the bad one.

    3. Re:Rose colored glasses by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Exactly my point. How things "are" is entirely dependent upon what your own challenges and successes are, and whether they are increasing or decreasing.

      Nothing I said in any way denies the advance of technology or the shift of cultural values. My point is, what that means is relative to the individual. Your world view is not mine, and vice-versa. It's just ridiculous for me to say the world is better, or worse, for you. Only you can say that.

      One person will rave about the positive aspects of kids having cellphones. Another will mourn the childhood exploration and freedom that the face-in-device, helicopter-parented youth culture has lost. One will rave about television, next person points out that the "gift" of Fox News and the rest is no favor to accuracy, education or sanity. A hundred years ago, the pledge of allegiance hadn't been suborned by the religious in violation of the 1st amendment. A hundred years ago, female and male roles were very different. Some of those changes may seem positive, some quite negative. A hundred years ago, you could buy a home on the wages of pretty much any job. Today, it is difficult to do without very, very expensive loans from third parties. 100 years ago, one could make many personal choices that are forbidden today. Marijuana, cocaine, etc. Just over a hundred years ago, the state began interfering with the choice to enter into a polygamous relationship, and we're still stuck with that coercion. You mentioned jury nullification, and you did so as if less of it was a good idea -- but to me, it's about the only power remaining that can save citizens from an overzealous and out of control justice system.

      Many things have changed, and everyone can have an opinion on every change. It's all very much relative and personal. There's no way to say "things are much better overall" because you can't obtain or synthesize an "overall" viewpoint.

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      I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
    4. Re:Rose colored glasses by mattcasters · · Score: 1

      Continuous improvement is what you and many others strive for. It's also what the statistics show. However, this continuous slow improvement over a large period of time (sure: combined with incorrect media coverage) leads to our world view being largely incorrect. I still thought the whole of Africa was one long hopeless story of poverty, starvation, violence and disease. When I saw the actual figures it completely took me by surprise. The world is in many aspects a lot better than we think it is.
      Now obviously good news doesn't sell so I guess we'll have to learn to live with the corresponding increase of BS in the news.

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      News about the Kettle Open Source project: on my blog
    5. Re:Rose colored glasses by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 1

      What utter crap.

      Continuous improvement of ones own bank account is NOT what I or the article was referring to.

    6. Re:Rose colored glasses by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      If you compare to a hundred years ago, yeah, it's better on most counts.

      If you compare to, say, 50 years ago, then e.g. wealth concentration was better then, and the average middle and worker class income when accounted for purchasing power parity was better, too.

  63. I Want To Believe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then come sound bites from "experts" with vested interests in maximizing the impression of mayhem: generals, politicians, security officials, moral activists..

    Maybe I could believe the world is getting better with this above group on their way to Mars, but until then I feel better knowing the world is falling apart. I can at least blame the above group.

  64. Nice for a Dicionary by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

    "Conservatives are hesitant to change things, so they don't screw things up."

    Your description would paint Bush as a liberal. What with his pet project to fix Iraq, bailouts for failed corporate ventures, trying to sovle all the problems in the world through big government military, spying and toruture programs, expansion of American powers in the bedroom, and bolstering the profiteers of a nearly wiped out American milddle class.

    Liberals like Bush should mind their business, focus on domestic affairs like the failures of healthcare. Conservatives like Obama, with strong focus on small government, reduction in military, long term thinking for healthcare, prudent fiscal policy and expansion of jobs and the economy once again kickstart a broken economy, and lead the U.S. to record job creation and growth.

    You just need to look at the DJIA to see who's got the right numbers.

  65. stoned during history class by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I guess we know who was stoned out of their mind during history class. Other than me, I mean. :) Corporations you say? The colonists dumped the cargo of the East India Company. The East India Company, founded in 1600, officially ruled countries. No corporation today comes anywhere near the power of the corporations of the founding era. You might also want to look up the words "corporation" and "corporal" in the dictionary.

    You might also look up "tar and feather ", a common practice at the time the republic was founded. See also "drawn amd quartered".

    Here's the opening line from George Washington's announcement of the Constitution, the one that protects the rights "endowed by your creator ":
      "Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor ..."

    The concept that the founders were liberal hippies is laughable. American liberalism, the secular movement we have today, came to America in the 1960s.

    Once you have clue about American history, you can go to the hardware store and buy some hemp rope. Hemp is a fiber that os legally sold in the US. Marijuana is a drug. They are similar genetically, but not as genetically similar as Clinton and Romney are.

    1. Re:stoned during history class by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for someone telling someone else to check their history I donno where to start, but most obviously-
      The real conservatives fought on the British side in the Revolution, Democracy was a radical new idea of the forward thinking liberals of the day.

  66. " Dicionary". Conservatives disliked Bush by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > your description would paint Bush as a liberal. What with his pet project to fix Iraq, bailouts for failed corporate ventures

    And indeed Bush Jr's approval rating among republicans was nearly as bad as Obama's among Democrats. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity regularly took him to task. They much preferred the elder Bush, who made a clear decision to NOT invade Iraq. I myself criticized junior on national radio, based on the argument that he was not following conservative principles.

    1. Re:" Dicionary". Conservatives disliked Bush by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      Bush Sr. wasn't successful at not invading Iraq.

      Do you mean that he made a decision not to remove Iraq's head of state?

  67. Feminists should die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Slate going through many of the statistics for things like homicide rates, child abuse, wars, and even autocracy vs. democracy. "

    The Old Testament allows men to marry female children. (Deut 22 28-29)
    You FUCKs ban it. And declare the world a better place as you stack the prisons high.

    I hope the world becomes a worse place.
    Feminists should be killed. .,.

    1. Re:Feminists should die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While the more rabid fringe of the feminist movement (hardly the majority) are not my favorites "ladies", I'd say killing them sounds a tad harsh.

      Deuteronomy 22:28-29King James Version (KJV)

      28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

      29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

      It says "virgin" not "child". In traditional cultures, and even until recently in Western cultures, virginity is a commodity of sorts, it is actually worth money. Dowries and bride prices were real. But a raped woman was rather valueless. Any widow alone had a problem, too. So if you broke a virgin without the requisite formalities (ie rape), then you had robbed her family and restitution was required. It all made sense in olden times.

      Which translation says "child" here? I'm of no doubt that child marriages were aok in the Old Testament but I don't have the reference right now.

  68. per capita. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Absolute numbers paint a different picture....

  69. Re:Of course there is a focus on the negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it was a faked video, they did a damned good job, getting Fox to broadcast it so they could record it on video camera.

  70. Improvement by Livius · · Score: 1

    Well, the world is getting better in the sense that Pinker and Mack thought the world was falling apart and are now better informed like everyone else was all along.

  71. Weight events by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    It is difficult to weight events of different nature. Indeed reduced homicide rate in NYC is nice for New-Yorkers, but on the other hand, neo-nazism apparition in Kiev government is a bad news for that area. How do we decide what even trumps the other?

  72. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "civilized" world is going where everything that scares anyone is forbidden and all you can do is work, jog and eat lettuce. I have no interest in that world. I need my hobbies and meat.

  73. HA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had read this BS from some acquittance Microsoft worker who posted these weekly media summit they made for their blogs with scientist and IT people, they compare Middle Ages with modern times and say we are like the Jetsons living in the nirvana.Their point is to say that in middle ages a pest could kill thousands of people and wiped out towns. Now the same pest just wipe out 0.0563 of the population. But that is really be safe and better? I left a post there asking the nerd who wrote that to move to Tijuana or Cd. Juarez in the border to see how safe is the world nowadays.

  74. The myth of the American Dream by NewYork · · Score: 1
  75. The Source says it all by MooseMiester · · Score: 1

    Slate Magazine? Really? Credible... on ANYTHING?

    More likely they are trying to assure the readership that the Democratic Party getting the worst electoral shellacking since the 1920's is not the end of the world...

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    Murphy was an optimist
  76. where radical new idea = 2,300 years old by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > Democracy was a radical new idea

    If you consider something 2,300 years old a "new idea".
    Tell me, though what does democracy have to do with the founding of the republic? You know the US is a republic, not a democrqcy, right? Maybe you don't, given you thought democracy was a new idea.