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Sony To Release the Interview Online Today; Apple Won't Play Ball

An anonymous reader writes "The BBC reports: "Sony Pictures is to distribute its film The Interview online, after a cyber-attack and a row over its release. The film will be offered on a dedicated website — seetheinterview.com — as well as via Google and Microsoft services." Notably absent among the services to provide The Interview is Apple. The New York Times reports: "According to people briefed on the matter, Sony had in recent days asked the White House for help in lining up a single technology partner — Apple, which operates iTunes — but the tech company was not interested, at least not on a speedy time table. An Apple spokesman declined to comment. "

227 comments

  1. Good news! by twitnutttt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

    1. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      long live the emperor!!

    2. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      It's $5.99 for a terrible movie... You go first.

    3. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah, I'll wait for it to show up on bittorrent. It's Sony after all.

    4. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their Communist Chinese hackers will use DDR3 exploit on all viewing sites to infect our computers.

    5. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yup only $1 more than the terrible latte you buy every morning

    6. Re:Good news! by sacdelta · · Score: 2

      Assuming of course that this isn't just Sony doing viral marketing.

      Why not take advantage of being hacked to promote up a movie that was going to bomb hard. Create "evidence" that the subject of mocking was behind it.

      Not saying that is what they are doing, but I won't be surprised to find out 6 months from now that they did.

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    7. Re:Good news! by marciot · · Score: 4, Funny

      Their Communist Chinese hackers will use DDR3 exploit on all viewing sites to infect our computers.

      An exploit on SDRAM? That’s why I insist on only using write-only memory on my computer.

    8. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      Id say as a matter of principles.

    9. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      If you think watching a movie is an act of patriotism you are confused.

      What's next, you will claim that an American flag decal on your pickup truck is "patriotic" ?

    10. Re:Good news! by PvtVoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      You really think it was the North Koreans who did the Sony hack?

      Sucker. Enjoy the crappy movie.

    11. Re:Good news! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      Id say as a matter of principles.

      I'd say it's the way of the future. Think of it - this is the first $100 MILLION movie that's going direct to pay-per-view. This is a North America only release, so if it succeeds in taking in $30 million from that market, they will consider it would have been a success if it had been released world-wide.

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    12. Re:Good news! by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Erm. No. Not even if you paid me to.

      Unless you actually find Seth Rogan funny and might get some enjoyment out of watching the film the only think watching this is going to do is help make Sony and their new distributors a pile of money for what is, by all accounts, a completely terrible film that is probably going to clean up at the Raspberry's next year. You know, *Sony*, those complete arseholes behind that rootkit thing a few years ago, and not to mention all that other douchebaggery that's been smeared all over the media for a couple of weeks now? You *want* to give money to those pricks?

      Just putting it on release is good enough to give the bird to Kim Jong-Un (assuming he cares in the first place since there is no way that anyone in NK outside the inner circle even knows the film exists), there's no need to help Sony survive any longer than absolutely necessary as well.

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    13. Re:Good news! by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      Most idiotic thing you could have said.

      What happened so far: Sony makes a (for all we know) second-rate movie which takes the piss out of a foreign head of state. Unknown hackers have a field day with Sony's security, as has happened on many occassions before. FBI makes claims that a foreign state is behind this and calls it "Cyberwar" while anyone knowing anything about security and especially Sony's security just says "WTF".

      Hackers threaten violence against theatres showing the second rate movies. The motivation most likely somethng called "lolz". Every one panics, especially. Sony.

      Now some places decide to show this second rate movie, which is in the end mostly about taking the piss out of a foreign head of state. And you are saying that watching a second rate movie is somehow patriotic?

    14. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      Nice try Sony, but we're not that stupid. Try the right-wing-nutjob sites. They all mistakenly believe that they're patriots, and will gladly pay to support their delusion.

    15. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony pictures is not Sony BMG. (Or, are you the type to blame the US Department of Agriculture for bombing Iraq? Defense, Agriculture, both part of the US Government right?). And even if they were the same, I love how /. is so fixated on one mistake one department made over a decade ago. The horse has been beaten, move the fuck on.

    16. Re:Good news! by Megane · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I already watched Team America: World Police, a much better movie.

      Also, AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

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    17. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's the big flag he stuck in the pickup bed 13 years ago, torn into tatters by wind and weather.

    18. Re:Good news! by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      Are you sure North Korea was actually the culprit? Bruce Schneier doesn't think so.

    19. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, watching a movie about assassinating a living, non-anonymous foreign heads-of-state is patriotic.

    20. Re:Good news! by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      Ah, yes - tell everyone what they should do. That's the American way!

      I'm not even going to watch it as an act of piratism.

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    21. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Using bittorent sounds a lot safer than thrusting Sony with your creditcard number.

    22. Re:Good news! by pla · · Score: 2

      And even if they were the same, I love how /. is so fixated on one mistake one department made over a decade ago.

      How about the repeat three years ago?

      And let's not forget about "OtherOS" four years ago.

      Or profiteering from Whitney Houston's extremely convenient death two years ago.


      No, Sony's PR problem doesn't come from "one mistake one department made over a decade ago", it comes from their entire corporate ethos, which their latest woes merely exemplify. They pretty much have made it a holiday tradition of shoving their foot up our asses on a yearly basis, and then expecting us to just smile and ask when the next gen of Playstation will come out so we can re-buy our entire game library that doesn't work on their empty promises of backward compatibility.

    23. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speak for yourself; the latte that I occasionally purchase is AWESOME, because I go to a place that roasts its coffee, and doesn't overroast, the way Star%ucks does.

    24. Re:Good news! by mSparks43 · · Score: 1

      yeah, you are right, they should only try the individual limbs of criminals responsible for doing the damage rather than the whole person.

      yess the department of agriculture is tared by the same brush as the rest of the states.

      In fact, what the US government does reflects on all of you, so yeah, most of the world blames US citizens for all the shit their government does.

      Everyone blames all of sony for all the crap they've pulled over the last decade (not just limited to the rootkit by any means)

      That's just how the world works, and imho anyone arguing different just wants to work in a different branch of such scourges on society and sleep at night.

    25. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Nah, I'll wait for it to show up on bittorrent. It's Sony after all.

      The Sony audio CDs that rooted customers machines could have provided Sony-outlet hosting at a cost of less than nothing. (people paid for the CDs).

      Was Sony ahead of its time?

      Instead of customers feeling like they're on a cloud, they could be the cloud.

      But it might be more likely to see Google serving from the worlds browser caches? Chrome-TV sounds like a good enough name for it.

    26. Re:Good news! by bearinboots · · Score: 1

      Not even at gunpoint.

    27. Re: Good news! by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

      No, it's the big flag he stuck in the pickup bed 13 years ago

      Confederate flag.

    28. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, is this official US gvt propaganda where the US does everything perfect and the other country is the bad guy (the hurt locker, zero dark thirty, etc) or just a movie from Sony?

    29. Re:Good news! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      and for extra security, I use write-only high level languages, such as C++ ....

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    30. Re:Good news! by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      Why? To make Sony rich? There is no patriotism behind watching this serie B film. It will be released, that's all that matter. Free speech is not about the obligation to watch bad movies and make a gang of morons rich. I fear I don't want to encourage an enteprise with so bad security practices and reward the shareholders for not making the call when it was time to.

      Watching the movie just by patriotism is stupid.

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    31. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of corporatism.

    32. Re:Good news! by dmaul99 · · Score: 1

      I''m so ronery, ronery!

      The actor they got to play Kim Jong Un looks a helluvalot more serious and intimidating than the real guy.

    33. Re:Good news! by Jeslijar · · Score: 1

      or I could watch a good movie.

      The whole thing has ended up as a huge publicity stunt for Sony. The people who 'denied' it were the theater chains, sony just dropped it because they did. The theater chains are leeches and should have been put into the spotlight, instead sony will get a christmas bonus for a relatively mediocre comedy.

    34. Re: Good news! by lgw · · Score: 1

      I've seen the flag-on-the-truck thing many times - never seen a confederate flag. While there are many in the South that still hate the damnyankees for the War of Northern Aggression, it's mostly pirate flags now. For a while I was confused - why were there so many Raiders fans across the South? But it's just the current generation's Rebel flag, without confusing the Northerners that it was about racism.

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    35. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, everyone should watch this movie because it was just released via a distribution business model that's YEARS ahead of it's time.

      Streaming on the internet a day before originally planned in theaters, for less than half the price of a movie ticket. And there's no obnoxious ads or previews or anything! It just plays - no crazy software to install or hoops to jump through.

      I choose to vote with my wallet and this is something I wholeheartedly vote for, even though the movie is sucking (I'm watching it right now) and I would rather have a downloadable DRM free file, (I'd bittorrent it in addition to streaming it... if the movie didn't suck so bad) I believe that the industry needs to see that the people want simultaneous widespread release and more modern / simple distribution models.

    36. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto.

    37. Re: Good news! by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      I've seen the flag-on-the-truck thing many times - never seen a confederate flag. While there are many in the South that still hate the damnyankees for the War of Northern Aggression, it's mostly pirate flags now. For a while I was confused - why were there so many Raiders fans across the South? But it's just the current generation's Rebel flag, without confusing the Northerners that it was about racism.

      Are you sure it's a pirate flag, not a "death symbol" on BLACK not-quite-subtle message?

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    38. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck patriotism. Watch it for the right reasons.

    39. Re:Good news! by trawg · · Score: 1

      Yeh! Except isn't Sony a Japanese company? Who am I being patriotic for by seeing it?

    40. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait? It's already out.
      https://kickass.so/usearch/the...

    41. Re:Good news! by popo · · Score: 0

      Long live clever marketing campaigns.

      The world's top security professionals are highly doubtful that NK had anything to do with the Sony hack. Where does that leave the claims that NK threatened Sony? How verifiable are these claims?

      What is the possibility that this is all part of a clever marketing campaign to get all of us to see the film.

      One can't help but notice that Sony has been the recipient of some amazing free publicity. Sony said it was far too dangerous to release the film... And then announced that they'd be releasing the film anyway. How many more of us are going to see the film after this debacle? How many more of us are even aware of the film?

      If it wasn't an intentional marketing campaign, should it have been? Will we see more impossible to prove allegations involving rogue states in the future?

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    42. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the US does have a history of assassination and destabilizing foreign countries. So sort of, yes.

    43. Re:Good news! by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 2

      I checked the site out - I was really excited to watch the movie until I realized they weren't going to pay me to watch that crap.

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    44. Re:Good news! by GoddersUK · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Long live clever marketing campaigns.

      I don't doubt that this has been excellent publicity, but I don't think, when you consider the facts, this can be a calculated marketing campaign (the initial pulling and then reinstating of the film may have been, but the hacking and the threats? No).

      Where does that leave the claims that NK threatened Sony?

      Nobody has made such claims, at least nobody that knows what they were talking about. Anonymous internet users threatened cinema chains. If Sony were behind these threats they could be prosecuted for making a true threat or blackmail. Thus I think it was unlikely to have been Sony.

      What is the possibility that this is all part of a clever marketing campaign to get all of us to see the film.

      If only unreleased films had been released that might be a valid suggestion. However by releasing private employee data Sony would have exposed themselves to significant reputational damage and legal liability (regardless if they were caught or not). If caught both of those would be astronomical. So no. Sony may have capitalised on it (although their response gives the impression of unprepared chaos, rather than planned marketing campaign).

      Sony said it was far too dangerous to release the film...

      No they didn't. They said they were pulling it because cinemas weren't showing it:

      “In light of the decision by the majority of our exhibitors not to show The Interview, we have decided not to move forward with the planned December 25 theatrical release” source

      If it wasn't an intentional marketing campaign, should it have been?

      Bar release of private employee data etc. and threats to life and limb then yes, it could have been very effective. But I (and most people) don't like been lied to so if they got caught it would probably backfire spectacularly. (side note: this is the first high profile data security incident I can think of that has elicited sympathy for the victim company rather than anger that their security wasn't up to scratch. Is this because people are recognising that these are increasingly inevitable and the real bad guys are the criminals, and we're reaching a turning point in the way customers and the media view such breaches, or is it because everyone's favourite comedy villain, NK, was involved?)

      tl;dr: The hack was real, although may not have been NK. Same for the threats. It's been good publicity for the film but Sony's response has been too incoherent to have been planned.

    45. Re: Good news! by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, Sony is usually the one doing the thrusting.

      Sam

    46. Re:Good news! by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Are you sure North Korea was actually the culprit?"

      Sure. They used all their computers to do it.
      Both of them.

    47. Re:Good news! by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Yeah, watching a movie about assassinating a living, non-anonymous foreign heads-of-state is patriotic."

      If you have a list of movies where _dead_ heads-of-state are assassinated, please share it.

    48. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Write only memory looks like good stuff!

    49. Re:Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If anyone thinks being patriotic is a good thing is confused.

    50. Re: Good news! by Isaac-1 · · Score: 1

      Try usenet at about 10 pm last night

    51. Re: Good news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, we shouldn't. I think Sony drummed this whole thing up just to promote a mediocre movie. I hope ey lose their asses.

    52. Re: Good news! by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

      Schneier never said North Korea didn't do it, he said (at best) that he didn't know but that the public evidence available was circumstantial.

      I'd be willing to entertain the possibility it wasn't North Korea if someone actually would propose an alternate theory and the evidence to back it up, instead of conspiracies based on cui bono rationalizations and the lazy supposition that our government always lies.

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    53. Re:Good news! by twitnutttt · · Score: 1

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      It's complete B.S. that my comment has been moderated to flamebait, which indicates it is not sincere. You may disagree with me, but I stand by my feeling of wanting to watch this movie out of solidarity with Sony and support of freedom of speech and expression.

      I guess freedom of speech has been curtailed here as well. :/

    54. Re:Good news! by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1

      Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

      Maybe if you were Japanese...

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  2. Actually.. by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Notably absent among the services to provide The Interview is Apple.

    Actually, most notably not in the list is Netflix. The number one streaming service on the planet doesn't have it. That's the big story here.

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    1. Re:Actually.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really seeing as they're going for a pay-per-view style release which things like Amazon and iTunes support but Netflix does not.

    2. Re:Actually.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony is charging $5.99 to "rent" the movie. That doesn't really fit with Netflix business model.

    3. Re:Actually.. by KnightMB · · Score: 2

      Notably absent among the services to provide The Interview is Apple.

      Actually, most notably not in the list is Netflix. The number one streaming service on the planet doesn't have it. That's the big story here.

      I agree, none of the streaming services will have it (Netflix, Hulu, etc) So I expect that the piratebay + clones will have this after the first person to purchase it.

    4. Re:Actually.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      yeah but "apple" is better clickbait than netflix.

    5. Re:Actually.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Netflix offers new releases in the US? Because here in Canada it doesn't.

    6. Re:Actually.. by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Netflix doesn't do new stream releases. M-go used to streaming rentals for a few bucks but now everything is "BUY FOR $9.99".

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    7. Re:Actually.. by Stargoat · · Score: 0

      Or it matches the Apple business model and not that of Netflix. Apple sucks. Ask their Chinese workers.

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    8. Re:Actually.. by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      Still in talks. Non story, unless you want all news to be final, and that anything not reported will never happen.

      https://variety.com/2014/digit...

    9. Re:Actually.. by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      6 bucks to see a shitty movie?

      Leave it to Sony to make money from having crappy IT security...

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    10. Re: Actually.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unblock-us.com, my friend. Well worth the $50/yr.

    11. Re:Actually.. by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      Why would you agree with someone who mistook Netflix for a pay-per-view outlet, when Netflix does not support charging people for new movies?

    12. Re:Actually.. by powerlinekid · · Score: 1

      As opposed to paying $13 in the theater? Those bastards!

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    13. Re:Actually.. by medv4380 · · Score: 1

      Would you rather spend 10 for each family member?

    14. Re:Actually.. by romanval · · Score: 1

      Netflix does not stream first-run movies... they're 3rd tier.. after Theatrical, Pay-Per-View/Pay-Per-Stream, and DVD/Blu-Ray--

    15. Re:Actually.. by Megane · · Score: 1

      But... but... but... MUH APPLE MUH-NOPOLY!

      Never mind that Sony had already pulled it and is now changing their mind at the last minute. Nope, can't let the facts get in the way of a good clickbait story.

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    16. Re:Actually.. by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Leave it to Sony to make money from having crappy IT security...

      Sony is a long, long, long way from breaking even on this thing.

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    17. Re:Actually.. by BLToday · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I've spent more on worse movies. Took two nieces and a nephew to see "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" (in 3D) after about 30 minutes they wanted to leave because it was so terrible. Even little kids know some time it's just not worth your time to sit through horrible movies.

      I expect "The Interview" to be on the level of "This is the End". Bad and completely forgettable instead of so bad it's scarring. I've seen some really bad movies this year (in no particular order): Lucy, Transformers 4, Transcendence, 300: RoaE (even Eva Green's breasts couldn't help this movie), and Divergent.

    18. Re:Actually.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never mind that Sony had already pulled it and is now changing their mind at the last minute. Nope, can't let the facts get in the way

      Oh, the irony.

    19. Re:Actually.. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      You might want to use a different example for your first one:

      Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs has 7.0/10 on IMDB (after 5 years), got an 87% on Rotten Tomatoes, 66 on MetaCritic (with an average user score of 7.6),

      It was a good movie.

      "This is the End" was also pretty good with a 6.9/83%/67/7.1 (respectively).

    20. Re:Actually.. by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      Of the movies you listed, I've only watched Lucy and Transcendence. While I agree that Lucy is a really bad movie, I think that Transcendence was quite good. Except of the scenes following the "installing satelite drivers" scene, everything was possible to happen in the future. It doesn't give characters the "good" tag or the "bad" tag, breaking with the usual "humans good - skynet bad" principle. There are multiple characters changing sides during the movie. It shows how technology can advance humans, but also shows that it needs to be seen critically, as you don't know whether you really own the device (which can be your artificial limb), or there is a backdoor. Think of those people the AI "healed", they got power but gave up ultimate control over their bodies.
      The central questions of the movie are: Can I trust this machine? Can human will be uploaded into a machine, and can it then still feel love?
      I think the question "Can I trust this machine?" will be one of the central questions of the 21st century.

    21. Re:Actually.. by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      True and it is not a reason to give them money as like it is a good cause. It isn't, There is many charities out there who deserved much more our money than a gang of monkeys who believe they achieved something for America doing a bad movie and having crappy IT security practices.

      Obama is wrong when he says North Korea should pay Sony for the damages. North Korea should pay America because they did a crime on american soil, but the money should not be spend on Sony. They do not deserve it.

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    22. Re:Actually.. by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1, Troll

      Or it matches the Apple business model and not that of Netflix. Apple sucks.

      So Apple doesn't show the movie because "it matches the Apple business model", and that's why Apple sucks. What happen to you, did Tim Cook steal your girlfriend?

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    23. Re:Actually.. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      IMDB ratings are a complete and utter waste of time. The majority of initial ratings and reviews in the first few hours and days will be single posting ratings scoring it at 9 or 10. The same thing will occur on DVD release. So the IMDB score is just a measure of how much the dick heads at the studios are willing to spend with PR=B$ firms on deceitful reviews. Amazons sucks because it purposefully fails to fix it by allowing review and rating filters to block utterly pointless reviews and ratings. As for the others, meh, still similar problems.

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    24. Re:Actually.. by Trogre · · Score: 1

      How do you know it's shitty? Have you seen it?

      Do movies cost less than $6 in your area?

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    25. Re:Actually.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not really a story at all.

    26. Re:Actually.. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      IMDB ratings are a complete and utter waste of time

      Which is why it is relevant that the movie came out in 2009. After time they settle. Unless you're going to argue that "Shawshank Redemption" is just living on studio PR?

      Perhaps if everyone else thought the movie was good your nieces and nephew just have bad taste. It was also a great book and highly rated by teachers.

    27. Re:Actually.. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No, I prefer spending nothing on a movie that's not worth my time, let alone my money.

      Certainly not just 'cause it allegedly pisses off some little megalomaniac gnome I care even less about.

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    28. Re:Actually.. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Who the heck said it was NKor? Sony? The US? Ok, that's nice. Anyone who isn't, let's say, a wee bit biased?

      Not that I want to defend li'l Kim, but I just don't believe they have anything close to resembling anyone who could do shit like that.

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    29. Re:Actually.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Notably absent among the services to provide The Interview is Apple.

      Actually, most notably not in the list is Netflix. The number one streaming service on the planet doesn't have it. That's the big story here.

      Apple isn't showing the movie because they want to keep their friends in China happy. No more, no less. This is a cowardice move by Apple as they choose to stand by their dictatorship friends who make their product cheaply through child exploitation and slave labor. So much for taking a stand for good old freedom of speech. Big Brother Apple has decided to stand by their profits first. If the 1984 commercial was today, the sledgehammer would clearly be thrown directly at an Apple logo.

  3. link in summary is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    urls are hard, innit...

    1. Re:link in summary is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the same, slashdot.org/seetheinterview.com, nice work editors/sub.

  4. Too much about a petulant dictator's censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enough about Innocence of Muslims.

    Anybody know anything about that Sony hack?

    1. Re:Too much about a petulant dictator's censorship by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      Gross. Why are you bringing up something created by a deranged right-wing Christianist, who's much worse than the people he hates?

  5. So, then... by o_ferguson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    should be on the torrent sites in time for Christmas?

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    1. Re:So, then... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      should be on the torrent sites in time for Christmas?

      You can be sure that Sony will be uploading crap to pollute the torrent sites. After all, in their shoes, wouldn't you?

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    2. Re:So, then... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      How will you tell the difference from the movie then?

    3. Re:So, then... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You can be sure that Sony will be uploading crap to pollute the torrent sites. After all, in their shoes, wouldn't you?

      How will you tell the difference from the movie then?

      The torrent won't have ads for Glosettes and O'Henry Bars before the main show :-)

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    4. Re:So, then... by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      should be on the torrent sites in time for Christmas?

      Torrent? Probably we'll be too busy downloading the new GOP dumps (unless the "we'll allow you to release it" pastebin was genuine).

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      When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
    5. Re:So, then... by o_ferguson · · Score: 1
      --
      - In Soviet Korea, only old people loose all their bases to Natalie Portman's petrified hot grits overlords.
    6. Re:So, then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is already on [thing you're not supposed to talk about because of the First Rule].

  6. PSN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Uh, how about you release it on the Playstation Network, Sony?

    1. Re:PSN? by wassomeyob · · Score: 1

      Because they can't deliberately divert eyeballs from their for-pay content.

    2. Re:PSN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NOOOOOOO

      I afraid hacker would take down Sony PSN if they release movie on there.

      I can't live without PSN. I would not know what to do with myself.

      (posted as AC since this is a stupid comment)

    3. Re:PSN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Playstation Network is currently down, likely due to a DDOS attack launched by the same group that hit them the last time. SO, if you got a Playstation this Christmas and expect to connect it to PSN... HAH! However, if you got an iOS device and expect to connect and download games and movies... be my guest!

      I'm sure it was because, with the likelihood of attacks being fairly high with this one, Apple erred on the side of people being able to use their stuff on Christmas Day (and not having security work over the holidays on a self inflicted injury).

  7. Patriotic Duty/ or best marketing ever by drfred79 · · Score: 1, Funny

    I bought the full version in HD. Because 'Merica! WOLVERINES!

  8. Amazon? by jo7hs2 · · Score: 2

    I see the focus was on Apple, but has Amazon weighed in?

  9. iFaggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the Interview was an overpriced anal dildo Apple would have pushed hard for an early release...

    1. Re:iFaggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the Interview was an overpriced anal dildo Apple would have pushed hard for an early release...

      Though I use Apple stuff, I have to agree with you that Apple's leadership is
      leading the company into the abyss. Sexual orientation has little do with this,
      but a lack of core competency has everything to do with it.

  10. Let's play "I Would Rather..." by ihtoit · · Score: 2, Funny

    I Would Rather:

    Circumcise myself with a chainsaw.
    Masturbate with a garlic hammer.
    Gouge out my eyeballs with an ice cream scoop then rinse out the sockets with battery acid.
    Watch the Den & Angie episode on a continuous loop.
    Braid my own pubic hair. Then garotte myself with it.

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    1. Re:Let's play "I Would Rather..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so i decided to google the term garotte just so i had a clue, figured it was something to do with strangulation, but i digress, from there i am on wikipedia then into other capital punishment entries on wikipedia, then clicked on a link to snuff as it was being offered to a condemned man. long story short i end up on youtube and watch related videos until i saw an untelevised stand-up routine by bill hicks.....all in all the whole experience was far more enriching than this movie will be.

    2. Re:Let's play "I Would Rather..." by rewarp · · Score: 1

      Read through the entire Torture Report, substituting the words "enhanced interrogation" with "pumping hummus up the anus", all in one sitting.

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  11. Not available outside US! by twitnutttt · · Score: 1

    "While we do hope to see the release of The Interview across the globe, for the time being this is limited to the USA only. You can only purchase the movie with a US card, and can only stream it from a US IP address."

    Grrr. How will the North Koreans see it and get angrier?

    1. Re:Not available outside US! by ehiris · · Score: 1

      No problem, the pirated version will only be available with Korean subtitles.

    2. Re:Not available outside US! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, it will be available outside the US. The internet treats territory protection as what it is: A bug. It will route around it.

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  12. Sooo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sony gets hacked because of their movie, then decides to release the movie through the very platform that caused them angst...the internet. Ballsy move, Sony!

    1. Re:Sooo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's kind of like saying. So, you got mugged while outdoors in the city but you still decided to walk to work in the same outdoors that caused you angst...the city. Ballsy move.

    2. Re:Sooo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really..more like, you got mugged walking down this one particular street because this guy that hangs out on that street doesn't like the shirt you were wearing, and then decided less than a week later you're going to walk down the exact same street wearing the same t-shirt. Indeed a ballsy move

  13. China factor by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    Duh!!! Does Apple really want shakeup an already tenuous "blessing" by the Chinese government? Never mind the fact the Chinese App store is mucked up and certain featured not available. That's a BILLION consumer potential market they don't want to miss out on.

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  14. Not on PSN? by ehiris · · Score: 1

    Great thinking Sony. Complain about apple and you can't even get it onto your own network.

  15. piss-poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sony shareholders: isn't it time for new leadership? 10+ years past-time? WAKE THE F UP.

    1. Re:piss-poor by koan · · Score: 1

      Look at who took over 10 years ago, shit always goes down hill when that ilk takes over.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  16. Let everyone remember cowordice by iamacat · · Score: 0

    Of Apple and major movie theaters. Don't watch this movie if it does not appeal to you, but know where to spend your money in future.

    1. Re:Let everyone remember cowordice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How is this cowardice by Apple? Apple won't let me upload and release new apps in this same time period, either. Know why? It's not because of North Korea, it's because it's the fucking holidays.

    2. Re:Let everyone remember cowordice by Sloppy · · Score: 0

      Apple are assholes, not cowards. They probably didn't approve the movie because something is the wrong color, or because it competes with their own movie, or because it has product-placement ads but Sony hasn't yet agreed to give Apple 30% of the ad revenue.

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  17. Sony could have announced this last week by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
    They could have announced that they are working on a download immediately.

    Instead they cowardly said "we surrender", then changed their mind when they realized how everyone thought they were weak, cowards giving in to terrorists rather than responsible businessmen avoiding lawsuits.

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    1. Re:Sony could have announced this last week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could have said or done anything at all, but you would still be talking trash about them. Biased opinions are biased opinions.

    2. Re:Sony could have announced this last week by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      I imagine that Sony execs changed their minds not only because of the widespread perception of cowardice, but because they received assurances from certain government agencies.

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  18. If it was to own by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    for say $4 with out DRM I'd buy it and many others. Gimme old releases for $2 and I wont even bother with torrents to download whats in my 800+ dvd's I'll just pay for it agai and if I lose it, so be it, its so cheap I'll just re buy it. If I'm out of town and need to watch a movie but already have it at home, for $2 I'd pay for it again.

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    1. Re:If it was to own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea- I was wondering if digital restrictions were required. I see "rent" for 48 hours so it must be. The price is less of an issue for me, but I do think $5 is probably the absolute max for a new release and and $2-3 is reasonable for older releases. And with that there should be no digital restrictions. At these prices why would one bother with torrents and fishy web sites?

      I don't buy many movies- but it's its purely because there are digital restrictions attached on near all sources for commercially purchasing commercially produced content. I did pay $5.99 the other day for a movie I found on gog.com/movies which has digital restrictions-free content.

      My only objection with GOG is that the games they sell aren't being released under free software licenses. That I find objectionable, but given the competition I'd recommend them over everybody else.

    2. Re:If it was to own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first early reviews are saying it's kind of a mess.

  19. Best Marketing Hack - EVER! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A second rate movie that would have been lucky to break even on its own will now be a major money maker for Sony.

    Will we never learn (but kudos to the Sony marketing department for thinking of it first!)

    1. Re:Best Marketing Hack - EVER! by koan · · Score: 1

      Not only that but pseudo president Obama can use it to further the "safety" of the Internet translation: remove more speech rights, increase corporate control, and increase surveillance.

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  20. So it was a publicity stunt by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Right out of the playbook of "how do you market a shitty movie that has been panned by critics left and right so people would STILL want to see it, no matter how big a stinker it may be".

    It's almost like they hired Uwe Boll as consultant.

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    1. Re:So it was a publicity stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would still be much more shitty if they did not release it now.

    2. Re:So it was a publicity stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      At the cost of some of their major titles leaked through the hack? You didn't think that through.

    3. Re:So it was a publicity stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was a publicity stunt it was a shitty one, because the movie is going to be shown in far fewer theatres and will bring in significantly less money than it otherwise would have.

    4. Re:So it was a publicity stunt by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      I think I saw a banner for the movie on the cliffs in front of Streisand's home.

    5. Re:So it was a publicity stunt by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No, the hack certainly wasn't part of their plan. But after it happened, they sure wondered how they could turn it towards their favor.

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  21. Old quote comes into play by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Bad planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my partâ

    Why should Apple make people work Christmas (most core Apple employees have the week off) because Sony finally came around to the ethical course of action? Sounds like a great thing to have decided WEEKS AGO.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Old quote comes into play by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

      Why should Apple make people work Christmas...

      Because if they don't, they will be viewed as cowards? Anyway, you exaggerate the level of effort required by Apple to do the right thing.

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      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
    2. Re:Old quote comes into play by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because if they don't, they will be viewed as cowards?

      How so when it will simply come out next week. Sony already owns Coward, the other companies will put up the movie as soon as they can.

      Anyway, you exaggerate the level of effort required by Apple to do the right thing.

      In my world the "right thing" is not to have an Apple Employee have to take even TWO HOURS the day before Christmas to serve Sony's fickle whims.

      Here's some real Tough Love - sometimes people on vacation should get to stay on vacation. THAT is the Right Thing.

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    3. Re:Old quote comes into play by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Because if they don't, they will be viewed as cowards?

      How so when it will simply come out next week.

      Let's see if it does.

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    4. Re:Old quote comes into play by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

      ...you exaggerate the level of effort required by Apple to do the right thing.

      In my world the "right thing" is not to have an Apple Employee have to take even TWO HOURS the day before Christmas...

      Because as everybody knows, all Apple employees are special little snowflakes whose precious little lives will be completely ruined by taking even two hours on a holiday to do the right thing.

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    5. Re:Old quote comes into play by reikae · · Score: 1

      Even if they would be viewed as cowards, who is going to remember that when the next iPhone or whatever comes out? And I bet even fewer people will skip buying it because of this.

    6. Re:Old quote comes into play by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      ...you exaggerate the level of effort required by Apple to do the right thing.

      In my world the "right thing" is not to have an Apple Employee have to take even TWO HOURS the day before Christmas...

      Because as everybody knows, all Apple employees are special little snowflakes whose precious little lives will be completely ruined by taking even two hours on a holiday to do the right thing.

      Because if Apple had called even one in, you would have made it sound worse than Pegatron.

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    7. Re:Old quote comes into play by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Because as everybody knows, all Apple employees are special little snowflakes whose precious little lives

      They are human beings who deserve a break from a rough work schedule, and again what is even the point of serving Sony's 11th hour demands when a release next week has essentially the same effect? Are you truly so daft as to imagine the physical act of release means anything next to the symbolic act of simply saying the release will go ahead?

      I somehow get the sense you are that daft, and perhaps far dafter than can be discerned at first glance... I'll let you have the last response as you are quite simply batshit insane and not worthy of further correspondence.

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    8. Re:Old quote comes into play by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      No one should be forced to do any company work on their holiday without some serious restitution.

      Same goes for any after hours situation.

    9. Re:Old quote comes into play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you Apple toadies sure do cry with pain when threatened with work.

  22. Some history by koan · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    To remind you how scummy Sony is.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    The Sony BMG CD copy protection rootkit scandal of 2005–2007 concerns deceptive, illegal, and potentially harmful copy protection measures implemented by Sony BMG on about 22 million CDs. When inserted into a computer, the CDs installed one of two pieces of software which provided a form of digital rights management (DRM) by modifying the operating system to interfere with CD copying. Both programs could not be easily uninstalled, and they created vulnerabilities that were exploited by unrelated malware. Sony claims this was unintentional. One of the programs installed even if the user refused its EULA, and it "phoned home" with reports on the user's private listening habits; the other was not mentioned in the EULA at all, contained code from several pieces of open-source software in an apparent infringement of copyright, and configured the operating system to hide the software's existence, leading to both programs being classified as rootkits.

    Sony BMG initially denied that the rootkits were harmful. It then released, for one of the programs, an "uninstaller" that only un-hid the program, installed additional software which could not be easily removed, collected an email address from the user, and introduced further security vulnerabilities.=====

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    1. Re:Some history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's worth noting that nobody involved in the hack was involved in the rootkit fiasco. (BMG != Pictures...) I'm all for Sony hate, but if you're going to rake Sony Pictures over the coals over what Sony BMG did then there is a LONG list of movies you should be boycotting.

  23. Just say no to Apple only by aggles · · Score: 1

    So glad Apple isn't playing ball here. It sucks to get all excited about new apps or media only to find I can't have it because I haven't paid my Apple tax. Boo on the government on trying to make Apple the single technology partner.

    1. Re:Just say no to Apple only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So glad Apple isn't playing ball here. It sucks to get all excited about new apps or media only to find I can't have it because I haven't paid my Apple tax.

      Enjoy your Microsoft taxes.

  24. What about other Sony movies? by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

    I could imagine that Apple has a list of Sony movies that they would like to sell / rent out on the iTunes store but don't have a license, and "The Interview" isn't near the top of the list.

  25. Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by hort_wort · · Score: 3, Informative

    Kim Jung-un has:

    * Inherited a position and country that was already hated.
    * Behaved as expected of his culture.
    * Never been known for harming anyone outside of his own country.
    * Suffered insults in nearly every report about him for as long as he has lived.
    * Had the majority of information about him relayed through South Korea, a hostile country.

    My understanding of the North Korean culture is that the whole system works by deifying their leader. Propaganda is extremely important. With the world seemingly against their administration, it makes sense that things that trickled into their country would be highly censored. It would be stupid of them not to censor it since it could lead to unrest, civil war, doom, destruction, death, fire, lack of bacon.... and other bad things.

    South Korea has already mentioned plans to take this film, put it on dvd, and float balloons across the border to incite rebellion in the population. By trying to prevent the movie from being distributed at all, North Korea is essentially trying to avoid anarchy caused by external propaganda.

    Why are we so eager to overthrow their regime? Is democracy so sacred that we must ~force~ it on every country around the world? What business is it of the US (and Hollywood) to decide what is the best system? What they have there is what developed in that region. It is a system that won out over the infighting to unite their country. It might not fit our definition of "fair" for the population, but that's only our definition. It's our own view that we're extending upon them, a culture that has had to isolate itself just to keep together.

    I for one will NOT be watching this film. I find the comedic insults of a leader and the trivialization of his death is in extremely poor taste, especially since he has done no wrong to me nor anyone I know. "Live and let live" is supposed to be a phrase that the citizens of the US are pushed to believe and follow, especially recently with anti-bullying and gay marriage. This film and the common national support for it spits in the face of that mantra.

    1. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Yunzil · · Score: 1

      A good effort. 8.5/10

    2. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Megane · · Score: 1

      South Korea has already mentioned plans to take this film, put it on dvd, and float balloons across the border to incite rebellion in the population.

      That's nice. Do they also plan to float DVD players across the border too, so it's not just a shiny drinks coaster?

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    3. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      North Korea is a country who:

      - brutalizes the majority of it's citizens for the economic and political benefit of a few.
      - threatens other countries with nuclear weapons.
      - threatens other countries with Internet hacking.
      - uses propaganda and bizarre statements for political gain.
      - deifies it leaders and makes a joke of the political process.

      Oh. Wait.

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    4. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Kim Jung-un has:

      * Inherited a position and country that was already hated.
      * Behaved as expected of his culture.
      * Never been known for harming anyone outside of his own country.
      * Suffered insults in nearly every report about him for as long as he has lived.
      * blah blah blah blather blather...

      * Done nothing to rectify the situation because he enjoys it just as it is.

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    5. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, I like stupid movies, so I'll probably watch it eventually. But I'll wait till it's on TV. I'm not going to give SONY one penny, if possible.

      As to censorship, would we complain if a movie showing the assassination of the US president was released? (I'd love to hear the Republicans
      complain that it hurt the image of the Presidency while a Democrat was in office.)

    6. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So as long as he doesn't harm you or anyone you know, he can carry on Dictating? Words fail me.

    7. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by quantaman · · Score: 1

      South Korea has already mentioned plans to take this film, put it on dvd, and float balloons across the border to incite rebellion in the population. By trying to prevent the movie from being distributed at all, North Korea is essentially trying to avoid anarchy caused by external propaganda.

      If a bad movie can incite rebellion in your country then your country is in a terrible, terrible place.

      Why are we so eager to overthrow their regime?

      Why do you think making a movie was an attempt to overthrow their regime?

      Is democracy so sacred that we must ~force~ it on every country around the world? What business is it of the US (and Hollywood) to decide what is the best system? What they have there is what developed in that region. It is a system that won out over the infighting to unite their country. It might not fit our definition of "fair" for the population, but that's only our definition. It's our own view that we're extending upon them, a culture that has had to isolate itself just to keep together.

      If there ever was an argument for pushing democracy on a foreign country North Korea would be it. North Koreans aren't citizens, they're prisoners, they'd actually be better off living in Orwell's 1984.

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    8. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      I would wager even odds that you are posting from the United States of America. I would not like to bet that you posted from the Happy Friendly Super Awesome Democratic Nation of North Korea.

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    9. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't split infinitives. It makes you look like a retard.

      "Patriotic NOT to watch it instead?"

      That's how it should read.

    10. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The movie is about the assassination of Kim Jung Un. I seriously doubt Americans would stay quiet if, say, ISIS made a movie about the assassination of Barack Obama, or for the British, the assassination of the queen Elizabeth II.

      There might be some comedy in it but its still brutally offensive to make a movie about killing a current head of state.

      This would be the equivalent of yelling "fire" in the theater. Some freedoms need to be used responsibly.

      Also this movie has been out on p2p for weeks. I think the very same group that threatened Sony released it? That casts serious doubts about NK being behind this.

    11. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are we so eager to overthrow their regime? Is democracy so sacred that we must ~force~ it on every country around the world?

      Because their leader is an insane madman who has a nuke program and the missiles to deliver them outside his country, kills his own relatives out of boredom, and keeps trying to (re?)start a war with his neighbor to the south. NK can stay a dictatorship for the next 10k years for all I care; having what's-his-name in charge of anything bigger than a hot dog stand is a bad idea.

    12. Re:Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by strikethree · · Score: 1

      Why are we so eager to overthrow their regime? Is democracy so sacred that we must ~force~ it on every country around the world?

      It is not Democracy that must be spread. It is Freedom. Democracy is merely the method that seems best suited. If a dictatorship could ensure Freedom, then dictatorships would be spread.

      What business is it of the US (and Hollywood) to decide what is the best system?

      See above. If you can come up with a better system for promoting Freedom, then I am sure we can get to spreading it to places that have few Freedoms.

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    13. Re: Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More of a retard at any rate.

    14. Re: Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      * Never been known for harming anyone outside of his own country.

      Google the Cheonan. Your argument is 80% based on igonorance and 20% based on rank stupidity.

    15. Re: Patriotic to NOT watch it instead? by hort_wort · · Score: 1

      * Never been known for harming anyone outside of his own country.

      Google the Cheonan. Your argument is 80% based on igonorance and 20% based on rank stupidity.

      If you're referring to the Battle of Cheonan, Kim Jung-un was -33 years old at that time.

  26. Why is the White House involved? by ShaunC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sony had in recent days asked the White House for help in lining up a single technology partner - Apple, which operates iTunes

    I'm not even sure how to react to this. Why is it that Sony, a private company, feels that the White House, the executive branch of the United States federal government, should help them seek out a technology partner? This bothers me on multiple levels. One, that Sony would feel it appropriate to ask the White House for help conducting their private corporate business. Two, that Sony expects the White House to have that level of influence over Apple, another private company.

    I understand that money buys influence, and that Hollywood and Silicon Valley both historically have Democrats in their pockets (full disclosure, I voted for Obama twice, I'm not attacking Democrats). That said, I don't understand how Sony is so brazen as to assume that they can just call up the White House, ask for help, and suddenly Apple is going to capitulate to their demands. Their line of thinking goes in this direction for a reason. Either Sony has successfully coerced companies into similar relations in the past, with the White House as a mediator, or vice versa.

    Sony is a corporation. Apple is a corporation. In my own experience, executives have each others' contact information and can get in touch with one another directly. I guarantee you that Sony executives have the private numbers to Apple executives, and it's up to them to work out a deal. There is absolutely no reason for Sony to involve the government in their appeals to establish a business relationship. It's corporate prostitution at the highest and most obvious level. Government "transparency," indeed.

    The entire premise is disgusting to me. I for one will not be paying to see this movie on any medium.

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    1. Re:Why is the White House involved? by Jeremi · · Score: 2

      . That said, I don't understand how Sony is so brazen as to assume that they can just call up the White House, ask for help, and suddenly Apple is going to capitulate to their demands. Their line of thinking goes in this direction for a reason.

      Indeed. In this case, the reason is that Obama has said publicly several times that he wished Sony had come to him for help before canceling the release of the movie. This is just Sony taking Obama up on his offer.

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    2. Re:Why is the White House involved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a public interview, Obama said that he'd wished Sony executives had contacted him before deciding to pull the movie. I imagine after that interview was televised, they did just that.

    3. Re:Why is the White House involved? by hey! · · Score: 2

      Presidents, governors and mayors all do this kind of thing -- call up private businesses and ask them to do stuff. The mayor may call a local business and ask it to reconsider withdrawing its sponsorship of the local youth baseball league. The governor might call up union leaders and senior management in a strike, particularly if it affects things lots of people need like transit or health care.

      This is the exercise of *soft* power, of influence rather than of compulsion. Obama can't call Apple and compel them to change their stance. But he can call Tim Cook and *persuade* him, possibly with more success than Michael Lynton, particuarly given that the two may be having some kind of dispute. Ego *does* play a role in CEO decision making.

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    4. Re:Why is the White House involved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One, that Sony would feel it appropriate to ask the White House for help conducting their private corporate business.

      Because Obama has publically b*tc*slapped Sony for not doing so in the first place.

      Two, that Sony expects the White House to have that level of influence over Apple, another private company.

      Because the white house frequently has b*ttf**k orgies with the companies who paid their way in. I thought everyone knew this.

    5. Re:Why is the White House involved? by DirePickle · · Score: 1

      Because hosting the film entails risks, and talking to the government is a reasonable idea when the entity making threats might be another nation. If you heard the speech last week, Obama specifically said that he wished Sony had contacted his administration before canceling the movie's opening.

    6. Re:Why is the White House involved? by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      I'm not even sure how to react to this... I understand that money buys influence... Either Sony has successfully coerced companies into similar relations in the past, with the White House as a mediator, or vice versa.

      Democracy = each *vote* has equal power
      Capitalism = each *dollar* has equal power

      We're just seeing the first half of "capitalist democracy" in action. It's how capitalism has always worked and will always work.

    7. Re:Why is the White House involved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worse than that, Sony is a Japanese corporation. The subsidiary is in the US, but I'll bet they avoid paying US taxes as many big corps do. I'll also bet they subsidize the campaigns of most major politicians in the US. It's the American way of corruption. The fact that Apple didn't play ball has me think they might be better than I thought...or maybe they just weren't offered the amount of money they are used to being given.

    8. Re:Why is the White House involved? by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      Sony Pictures Entertainment is an American company whose alleged attacker is a sovereign nation.

      If a sovereign nation conducted a physical attack on a person resident in the United States, the Federal government would be expected to at least be interested in the response.

      In this case the sovereign nation allegedly conducted an economic attack on a corporation resident in the United States, so the Federal government should be expected to at least be interested in the response. The Federal government is seeking to limit the damage from the attack, i.e. preventing the market from seizing up because suppliers are afraid to offer their wares. By dealing with certain major players to keep them engaged in the market the rest will see that the market is okay and they can engage it too.

    9. Re:Why is the White House involved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignoring Obamas concern that the White House wasn't consulted when the film was pulled. You are a stupid motherfucker.

  27. It's not on PlayStation Network either!... by romanval · · Score: 2

    Sony isn't even streaming it on their own service for PS3/PS4!!! What are they thinking?

    1. Re:It's not on PlayStation Network either!... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony can't even keep PSN up due to a DDOS attack. Same with Microsoft's Xbox network. Hmmm, wonder why they're getting attacked? Wonder when those newly gifted PS4's will actually be usable? Hope the games that were bought don't require a patch immediately :)

  28. Isn't iTunes Connect on Autopilot for Christmas by glennrrr · · Score: 2

    Don't they let the whole staff off for the holidays? You certainly can't submit any app updates.

  29. Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anyone that has EVERY put anything out with Apple -- Apps, Books, Music, Movies -- knows that Apple sends an email several weeks in advanced telling that they are going into a freeze for a week or two EVERY YEAR. They let their people go on vacation and spend time with the family and all that shit.

    This was sent out in November: http://www.macstories.net/news...

    Guess what? It takes about a week from the time Apple gets a movie until they post it. They do a QA check on it, and make certain the ratings are correct and ask that the folks on the other side to verify the same. The quickest this happens is about a week. And now Sony wants Apple to order their employees back in from their vacation, all the while not putting this up on either of their two services.

    I know /. hates Apple these days (I was around when /. loved them) but damn...

    1. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, the case with "The Interview" is quite clearly exceptional, and if Apple had balls, they would have made an exception for it.

    2. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Considering Sony doesn't find it a priority to get it on their services, why should Apple?

      Why should Apple bring people back from vacation to deal with a problem another company brought upon themselves? If Sony wants Apple to post it, give them two weeks. It isn't an exceptional case. There is no national emergency. But go on you for the anonymous hyperbole.

    3. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you even talking about? Sony is running the website that it is being distributed on.

      Clues: get one.

    4. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple doesn't want to be hacked by a 13th world country. The fappenning was enough bad press. Apple's approach to security starts and ends with 'Mac's don't get viruses! LOL!' and the reality distortion field makes them a shit load of money.

    5. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 2

      Why isn't it on Crackle? Or on the Playstation networks.

      Arguing with an idiot so brave they have to be anonymous is beneath me. Not going to do it anymore.

    6. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What difference does it make if it's on Crackle or Playstation networks?

      1) Sony is the company that decided to ~release~ the film. To argue that they lack courage (or whatever vague point you're struggling to make) is asinine.
      2) They have themselves also provided a channel to directly ~distribute~ the film.

      It must hurt your 5-digit ego to have your "points" proven ridiculous by an AC, huh.

    7. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 1

      Kernel Films is not Sony. Sorry. Done.

    8. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL.

      Kernel provided to Sony the software to stream it. Your comment is as daft as saying that every game that uses the Unreal engine is manufactured by Epic Games.

    9. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by antdude · · Score: 1

      Why was there an Apple ntp security released on Monday then? Who did that?

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    10. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 2

      Interesting. I'm not sure where you confused iTunes Store Freeze with the OS X team. That had said that this was coming out a week ago.

      But that is interesting that you confused their media division with their operating system division.

    11. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by antdude · · Score: 1

      Oh, I didn't read the links. I thought it was for all of Apple.

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    12. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can wake up thousands of Chinese workers to double iPhone output overnight, why not 1 person on Christmas eve to toss a movie on the site? Apologist much?

    13. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the media side goes away for XMAS. You can schedule things to go up -- in advance -- things like price changes and all that, but if it isn't in the scheduler, its locked.

      On the OS side, this was supposedly a rush release...they made it mandatory, but let us know early it was going to drop. I believe enterprise users had the ability to run a script that would stop it...but I don't know why you would.

    14. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by antdude · · Score: 1

      Rush, eh? I hope it was tested enough to avoid being buggy. ;)

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    15. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 1

      You and me both. Apple has sucked on the network side lately...it is sad, they adhere to the official specs, which as we all know isn't how things are implemented in the real world. If something doesn't work, it doesn't matter if it is right or not...this is one thing I think the community gets right, they do clean room specs, but then they make it work.

      I know there was a community fix for this a while back, not sure if Apple implemented this or not.

    16. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by antdude · · Score: 1

      It's not just network. Just not good as they used to be.

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    17. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 2

      As someone that has always loved Apple products, you are right. As much as everyone hated Jobs, he made sure shit was right.

    18. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by antdude · · Score: 2

      Yep. Even early day with Woz were cool too since I had an //c. I wasn't a fan of early MacOS (before X) though.

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    19. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by clifyt · · Score: 1

      I loved the old Mac. It was the most user friendly system out there -- and as a musician I needed just this. I also cut my teeth on unix (specifically SysV), so when OS X came out, it was the best of both worlds.

      Give me a unix based system that I can do my research and gives me low latency with an interface that I don't have to think about, and I'll be happy. I can't stand Microsoft at all...it doesn't do userfriendly well, and the nerd side of it sucks (even if you put the GNU tools on it...I don't even know if these exist anymore, but it was the only way I could get by dealing with NT back in the day).

    20. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by antdude · · Score: 1

      That is why I loved Mac OS X. BSD/Unix power and I know Linux. Classic Mac OS couldn't do that. Same for Apple //c's before I went to IBM side.

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    21. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that why they changed the doubleclick home button? Waited 4 years to enable A2DP/Bluetooth remote when it was an industry standard for phones (Even my A380 Sony Ericcson Flip phone has support...

    22. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exceptional in the sense that the movie is exceptionally boring, maybe. It wasn't even worth torrenting imo.

    23. Re:Apple iTunes Store Freeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow you are a special kind of stupid aren't you.

  30. where are the google and MS services by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    Dont really want to give sony my credit card number, since they get hacked once a quarter

    1. Re:where are the google and MS services by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Joke in hand. If you were serious though, the payment is clearly not handled through Sony. The transaction is done by Stripe

  31. In US only by X10 · · Score: 1

    duh

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  32. If at first you don't succeed... by magusxxx · · Score: 1

    Dear Sony: Could you please do the sequel in Gambia.

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  33. aaaand..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    aaand... it's out. google play.
    $5 rent and $14 buy. as of 10:00 am CST

  34. Gutless factor by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

    More like: Apple sets a new standard for limp wristed gutlessness. That's how it comes across. Tim, your move.

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    1. Re:Gutless factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take your limp-dicked anti-gay shit and ride off into the sunset. Seriously.

    2. Re:Gutless factor by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Is that you, Tim?

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  35. Not available outside the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Since they aren't offering to sell it to those of us who live outside the US anyway, I guess they won't be offended if I pirate it.

    Ta, Sony.

  36. When the smoke and ash clears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope I get a chance to kick you morons' asses in hell. You fucknuts, risking anything even war to show a movie that should never have been made. As for now, I will have to settle for suing you derelicts into oblivion. Also, this just in; Your mothers wear expensive combat boots. YOU IDIOTS

  37. will pirate by tom229 · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't be giving these cowards my money even if I was able to (I'm Canadian). This entire story has been shameful. When did the USA stop being the land of the brave? Everyone knows your weakness now. Scare you a little bit and you'll do whatever anyone wants, the least of which being handing over all your freedoms to the government.

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  38. Editor, plz by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    Sony Pictures is to distribute its film The Interview online, after a cyber-attack and a row over its release.

    They made an adaptation for online viewing called "The Interview online"?
    Oh, I see. "Online" is not part of the film's title, but we italicized it as well for some reason.

  39. So, apparently... by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

    One of the sites allowing people to 'rent' the movie had a few problems with the implementation, allowing people to share the URL with anyone, as well as just save the movie file from their browser.

    I was expecting people to be able to just record the screen and then post it to teh torrents, but that turned out unnecessary as a prefect quality 1080p file has been available since yesterday.

    It was as bad as I expected.

  40. It was a marketing gimmick, people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus Christ, don't you people recognize a staged marketing gimmick when you see one?

    You all probably also believed that Skeletor really did take over Honda's twitter account a couple of weeks ago.

    Idiots.

  41. What about the PlayStation Network? by r_jensen11 · · Score: 2

    Come on Sony, do you have the courage to distribute via your own entertainment network, or are you going to leave your PS customers out in the cold?

  42. Can't watch it! by lynnbatdorf · · Score: 2

    Fricken hackers hacked Sony I guess. So we can't watch on our TV! B.S!!!!

  43. I've been slandered by twitnutttt · · Score: 2

    Everyone should watch this movie just as an act of patriotism.

    It's utter B.S. that my comment has been marked as flamebait, which means it was not sincere. You may not agree with me, but I am completely sincere in my feeling of wanting to support this movie just on the basis of it being a target of repression of freedom of speech.

  44. Apple is the real coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good job Apple. Keep your Chinese buddies happy and don't stream the movie. We know they're buddies with North Korea and would prefer the movie isn't shown also. Since they make you billions of dollars by allowing you to use their children and their slave labor, stand by them instead of free speech. Good job Apple. Once again showing that you are now the Big Brother that you once claimed to stand against. Apple is evil. Toss the sledgehammer directly through the Apple logo.

  45. As Predicted by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Let's see if it does.

    Oh Say Can You See. And just after Apple Christmas break ended too, huh! Who would have thought it. Oh wait, I did.

    I guess it's YOU who are the "special little snowflake" emphasis on Special... do you ever get tired of being totally unable to predict easily predicted events? Isn't it kind o hard to live life where every single thing that happens is a total surprise and against your instincts?

    As always, ignoring responses from idiots. You can guess what I will do with your response.

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  46. Question by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    What has the Whitehouse got to do with lining up a hosting partner for Sony in this?

    We should change our mantra to one of separation of corporate, church, and state.

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