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Swatting 19-Year-Old Arrested in Las Vegas
Ars Technica reports that a Las Vegas teenager is in custody for multiple instances of swatting:
Brandon Wilson, who goes by the online handle "Famed God," was arrested Thursday in Nevada and faces an extradition hearing to determine whether he should be sent to face hacking and other charges. Illinois prosecutors said there was evidence on his computers about the July 10 swatting incident, in which he allegedly reported a murder to Naperville's emergency 911 line. The SWAT team responded, but the call was a hoax. The Chicago-Sun Times said that, in addition to the Naperville incident, the suspect's computers held evidence "of similar incidents across the country."
Instead of, you know, alleging "the perp" did went and done specific bad, just throw vague law around so you don't have to prove anything. Easy does it.
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Err. That's good, right ? Police arresting bad people ?
Not sure why this is news.
He gets caught and will stand trial. Isn't this how the system is supposed to work? What's the problem here?
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So they might put on trial and jail a real "computer" criminal, someone who put lives in danger. That's a nice change.
Filing a false police report is criminal in and of itself, even if it doesn't result in an expensive, resource-wasting, and potentially injurious or deadly response from the police.
Do it once, maybe you get away with it. Keep doing it, and you can [i]expect[/i] to get caught.
How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
People die in SWAT raids when the police think their going after an active shooter.
Horse fuck this idiot up the ass with a old splinter-laden telephone pole covered with flaming napalm.
It is such a harrowing experience and they need to realise that it is "not for the lols."
Up to 5 years? That's it?
The linked article uses the words "prank" and "prankster" multiple times. This is not ordering someone else a pizza; this is ordering someone else a large group of hair-trigger people carrying deadly weapons and expecting violence. People like this should be restrained or executed, not so much for what they have done, as for being the sort of people who would do it.
It's funny he looks exactly how I would have pictured him in my mind.
Make an example of him.
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This is why he's being charged with "computer tampering, intimidation, and identity theft."
He should be charged with attempted murder. You're essentially sending a bunch of heavily armed people into someone's house where the slightest mistake on the part of the victim could result in their death. You're strapping a ticking bomb to their chest and telling them the only way they'll live is by cutting the blue wire.
A single wrong move, a single twitch, a sneeze, a fart, a knife they're cutting their sandwich with could get them killed because of his actions. He needs to locked away for a very very very long time in max security to prove a point that this is not a joke and someone is eventually going to get killed because of it.
"1001 ways stupid young men completely fuck up their lives."
I'm hoping it becomes mandatory reading in schools one day.
>. Perhaps I underestimate the power of the average handgun. As for the face, are there no effective bulletproof visors?
Remember the tip of the bullet is around 2mm or so. Imagine you have a stout nail. You place the nail against a piece of glass and hit it with a hammer, hard. You want glass thick enough to take that without breaking. There's not all that much POWER involved, but it's concentrated in a small area.
Bullet-resistant Lexan is something like two inches thick, so not only is it heavy but it a curved piece would refract quite a bit. Think "coke bottle glasses" times ten. So you've got a flat piece of material hanging off your face blocking your peripheral vision and it weighs as maybe half as much as a gallon of milk. That's not I what I want to wear in a fight.
The thing about guns and power levels is that to do their job they have to RELIABLY go through a leather jacket, the clothes underneath, three inches of fat and muscle, then somehow do enough damage to stop someone within seconds. That means that they MIGHT go through all kinds of things and still do enough damage that you die eventually.
Some departments deploy SWAT for non-high risk situations because they see it as a convenient training exercise. The close quarter skills employed by SWAT are perishable, they need constant rehearsing. The low-risk deployments provide a certain amount of randomization to further enhance their skills, unknown buildings, unknown layouts, etc..
That said, yes there are too many SWAT teams. Not every friggin department needs one. A major city, a county, etc. but not every friggin town and federal/state agency.
is the question of why its so easy to get a large group of hair-triggered people carrying deadly weapons to violently storm someones house over nothing more than a single anonymous phone call.
Really? Thats all it takes??? some teenager with a cellphone & your address?
I think we need to do something about that.
to determine whether he should be sent to face hacking
seems a bit harsh
Ars Technica reports that a Las Vegas teenager is in custody for multiple instances of swatting.
... but to me a nineteen year old is not a "teenager."
"not so much for what they have done, as for being the sort of people who would do it."
The type of sub-human vermin who swat are pathologically narcissistic and sadistic. We'd be a lot better off as a society if we released all the non-violent pot smokers and threw scum like this in jail for 15+ years. There'd be one fewer Bernie Madoff, Ted Bundy or ex-Chairman of an unnamed securities firm to go around...at least for a while.
No ... flogging is what the expressionist bytch needs. Very entitled, eh ... he got rights! Express those rights by slicing the skin off his back and throwing the bloody remains into a gutter.
... have they acted any better ??
Then consider the public behavior of Demorat and RepubliFat national politicians
Judging by the looks of him, I'll bet anything Brandon Wilson is really concerned about ethics in game journalism.
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You are welcome on my lawn.
To understand why there is not a full suit body armor, you have to understand what body armor actually is and what it does. A 'bullet-proof vest' is a multi-layered fabric composed of Kevlar and other fabrics, with a pocket in the center of the front and the back that mostly covers just the heart, and into this pocket goes a ceramic and steel composite plate. The fabric of the vest is designed to take the force of the bullet that hits it and spread it out. So instead of a massive amount of energy concentrated on a point around 2-9mm in size, it gets diffused into the surrounding layers of Kelvar (instead of your flesh). And even then, you still get hurt, very badly, because it cannot stop all of the kinetic force of the bullet, it jsut spreads it out over a large area of your body. Broken ribs, bruised and ruptured internal organs, even spinal injuries are common when getting shot in the vest and that's when it works and stops the bullet from going inside you!
Why the plates then? Because the fabric mesh is often not enough to stop even handgun caliber rounds at close range. The plates are insurance, they will stop most small arms fire, though rifle rounds quickly overpower even full steel plates. Thus your heart is not likely to damaged in a firefight if you are wearing your vest. Its not foolproof at all and it definitely is not bullet proof.
The giant bulky armored suits you see the explosives guys wearing? That's not bullet proof either and its the closest thing we've got. That suit is protection against a detonating device because the detonation is usually unshaped. Even it will at best stop small arms fire, still has vulnerable gaps, and its heavy, and extremely hot. Its utterly un-tactical. If you want to see it in action, there is footage out there of a bank robbery in California from the 90's I think where a couple of guys in them held off police for a long while, tore the cops up badly but they were finally taken down due to exhaustion, vulnerability and the fact they were just too slow to actually get away.
The less than lethal devices in an officers arsenal are unreliable. Not in that they may misfire, though that is certainly true as well. Mace/CS Spray for example is a terrible weapon to rely on. Its a spray, in mist form or stream, that travels through the air to splash onto a target. It can splash back onto the officer at extremely close range. Heavy winds can make you miss your target, hit an innocent, your partner, other officers, and even yourself. Also, a certain (small)_ percentage of the population is flat out immune to it, and even if the target is not, its not debilitating, its just a massive irritant. Police train to work through the pain and distraction and civilians can too. Even alcohol can make a person not feel the sting, and that's a legal substance. Get into narcotics and its a crapshoot if it'll do anything at all other than make it more difficult to apprehend the target. (oh yeah, that stuff is liquid and gets on everything. good luck wrestling that dude to the ground and not getting it all over yourself if it didn't work.)
Tasers. ugh. Boon and bane in a single device. Injuries from tasing are common as they cause an adult human being to freeze up tight and fall over from a standing position. The effect of them is very powerful, but not that difficult to recover from, especially if you are full of adrenaline. So they come with multiple charges to make him get on the ground again. But, the more juice you pump through someone, the more likely it is for side effects to arise. (like death) Getting hit with multiple tasers at once is not recommended if you want a living suspect, they have a limited range as well, but that range is better than Mace and is like a leash for a target, as long as the barbs are in and the device has a charge, it can zap him again if needed. They can miss the target, they can hit too far apart to be effective, heavy winter coats can stop them. They are not a great solution, but they are what we have now. And using a taser on someone pointing a gun at you or anyone else...all your muscles spasm when you get juiced, there is a high chance the firearm in the targets hand will discharge and injure or kill someone.
Can you give an example of swat being used to apprehend a non-violent person?
Gibson Guitars. Gibson imported wood guitar components that we legally harvested and legally exported. Eventually the US gov't admitted Gibson did nothing wrong. However to investigate Gibon's possible improper importation of wood a heavily armed SWAT raid was conducted to seize their paperwork and the wood in question.
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Swatting is most likely a felony in many states. If it causes death then the offender can be charged with murder under the rule.
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There are no "less than lethal" weapons in a LEOs arsenal, only "less lethal."
I never understood why some folks need to waste resources by pulling these pranks. All that happens is everyone else gets a heightened level of paranoia and still have to pay for the bills ( swat costs money ) while legitimate causes are left on the wayside.
Is this a new term for fake calling for a SWAT team?
In my day to swat meant to study for an upcoming exam of some kind. Hence the headline confused me for some time.
Oh, and mutter something something my lawn.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Like what? wait for a second call? At what point would it make it a real threat? What if the threat was real, but help took an extra 5 mins while 911 tried to figure out if threat is real or not, and that resulted in more deaths? Then you have people suing 911 for not responding right away.
They ARE doing something about it, catching the guys who do it, and giving them a harsh punishment.
So show me where the vague laws have been thrown out. I'm not seeing it. Mostly I see more of them put on the books. Starting with the "computer hacking" laws, but also the various "anti-terrorism" laws, and then there's the whole "secret lists of allegedly bad people, also secret rules" thing, plus secret courts, secret "give us all your data and shut up about it"-letters, and so on, and so forth. Should I mention jury nullification that the judges really don't want juries to know about lest it might possibly get used?
Or the habit of spinning stories allowing for people to get convicted on things they didn't do, qv. the trickery and wilful misleading storytelling that got Alfred Anaya convicted in a state he'd never been in--smart, that, make a jury not be "of your peers" by transporting you to a different state before accusing. Or the trickery with the rules that kept Kalief Browder remanded without bail for three years before his trial even got started. Or thinking nothing of stacking accusations just to extort a plea bargain out of someone, or a suicide since Aaron Swartz saw himself bereft of ways to defend himself against all that.
And no, saying "oh yes we have a whole separate class of vagueness on top of the laws, but that's something else really" isn't helping your case. It's abuse of (vague) law (and their position of power) by the supposed upholders of the law. That's not "strictly applying law", that's conspiring to get people convicted regardless of actual crimes committed. It's thuggery with the law as weapon.
If the system is working in theory but not in practice, it's a nice thing in theory but still a broken system in practice.
...who had no idea what "swatting" meant, until reading the linked article.
Since when do we use unknown/uncommon words in headlines ?
let his young butt in jail, and put him in a cell with Bubba the Horny Prison Nigger, 10 years of sodomy.
Without it you get killed. Kids and unprotected adults do not have armour, so DON'T FUCKING SHOOT THEM.
Here was me, thinking that the reason for the good pay and good pension and all that respect and aquiescence was because they had a FUCKING DANGEROUS JOB, yet here you are explaining that police shoot people because even wearing a bullet proof vest, it hurts IF you get shot.
Grow a fucking pair or get out of the fucking job. Or admit that it's a bloody safe job compared to many and stop whining about how brave and honurable you are.
And smear some ghost peppers on his asshole for good measure.
They should imprison him and his swat team accomplices who have put us in danger of people like him with their very existence. Do you have any idea how sublimely infrequent the actual need for them is? There is truely no point in even having them.
Hell 93% of their uses here in MA have nothing to do with hostage situations or even shoot outs, they are just the pricks who go around busting down the doors of pot heads.
And....because they exist, and like to flashbang first and ask questions later, we are all in danger. Imprison them all for reckless endangerment!
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
That would make it all the more sweet.
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Also look at to whom Gibson made political contributions. The IRS scandal is only a part of the era of the Dear Leader Obama rewarding and punishing to establish power.
Why would they need a claymore? It's not hard to blow things up, and you certainly don't need military hardware for it. That's one of the problems with the "wars" in variou countries, as IED (remember, the "I" stands for Improvised) aren't particularly hard, with the biggest issue being the possibility of blowing oneself up while making one. Hell, the Boston bombing was a household item and some ball bearings.
Materials to cause significant body count aren't at issue, it's that - thankfully - there don't appear to be that many people sick enough to try it on a regular basis. That and/or those that so depraved are lacking even the relatively low skill to make such devices, or they're too afraid for their own skins to try it.
I do recall an incident where a terrorist van apparently blew up enroute because they forgot to calibrate for time-zone differences. That one always made chuckle. If only all terrorists and crazies were so unskillful as to blow themselves up prematurely or set their crotch on fire...