Google To Offer Ad-Free YouTube - At a Price

First time accepted submitter totalcaos writes YouTube announced today its plans for an ad-free, subscription-based service by way of an email sent out to YouTube Partners. The email details the forthcoming option, which will offer consumers the choice to pay for an "ads-free" version of YouTube for a monthly fee. The additional monetization option requires partners to agree to updated terms on YouTube's Creator Studio Dashboard, which notes that the changes will go into effect on June 15, 2015. We talked about the possibility of an ad-free model back in October.

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[Anonymous Coward]

My youtube ad blocker works perfectly. I never see advertisements while watching youtube.

I'd happily pay for the ad blocker. I won't pay google for the joy of them not spamming me.

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[Anonymous Coward]

I don't mind the idea of a paid service to remove the advertisements. Unfortunately I would then need to log into Youtube and be subject to their tracking and profiling algorithms. For the time being I'll just stick with Adblock and an anonymous VPN.

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[Chrisq]

My youtube ad blocker works perfectly. I never see advertisements while watching youtube.

I'd happily pay for the ad blocker. I won't pay google for the joy of them not spamming me.

Does your ad blocker cope with the ads at the beginning of videos, you know the "you can skip this advert in 5 seconds" things?

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[Anonymous Coward]

yep.

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[Chrisq]

Which blocker is it?

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[Sir_Substance]

I use ad block edge.

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[itzly]

I use firefox + adblock plus 2.6.3, and I don't see any ads either.

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[fuzzywig]

AdBlock Plus and uBlock both work, on the Flash and HTML5 versions.

ABP works so well that I didn't realise for quite a while that they'd introduced advert videos until I went round a friend's house.

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[Anonymous Coward]

uBlock does the job perfectly.

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[Zappy]

Youtube centre works

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[jones_supa]

My youtube ad blocker works perfectly. I never see advertisements while watching youtube.

I'd happily pay for the ad blocker. I won't pay google for the joy of them not spamming me.

Aren't you worried about the ethical choices you are making there?

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[Pieroxy]

There is another catch to it: I will not pay a fee to all websites I visit in order to avoid ads. Not even talking about the money spent, there is just no practical way for me to micro-pay for every site I go to... Even though I think it would be a nice way to avoid ads while still giving something to the sites I visit. After all, they provide value..

In other words: it doesn't scale until there is a way to expand the model to the internet. As such, I will still have AdBlock installed for all the other sites I visit. So even if I don't pay for YouTube, I won't see any ads anyways, making the YouTube subscription of little value.

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[Jstlook]

The ethical choice I make has to be weighed against the ethical choice of offering a "free" service in exchange for obtaining the metadata of every person connected to a one or a zero. At the end of the day, my own integrity means a lot more than however much "They" might choose to make off my expense. Am I worried about that choice? Excellent question.

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[jones_supa]

No moral or ethical problem is present... "won't somebody think of the marketers" LOL.

The content creators get their slice from advertisements as well.

If youtube is not able to sustain itself when faced with a swarm of 'freeloaders' like me, well, it just wasn't meant to... bye bye.

And what gives you the prerogative to be the freeloader? Obviously not everyone can be.

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[Pieroxy]

My youtube ad blocker works perfectly. I never see advertisements while watching youtube.

I'd happily pay for the ad blocker. I won't pay google for the joy of them not spamming me.

So you don't recognize YouTube brings any value to you? Shouldn't they be able to decide how to monetize it? After all, it's their website.

As for the spamming part, I don't see as spamming if you actually willfully go there al by yourself.

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[Anonymous Coward]

The lies we tell ourselves are the best ones.

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[Anonymous Coward]

"Aren't you worried about the ethical choices you are making there?"

The ethical issue is easily stomped flat by the security issue of not risking my computer to ads I have no interest in potentially being connected to malware. Yes, it's happened even to google.

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[cinky]

yeah, fuck all those content creators on youtube

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[cinky]

> I won't see any ads anyways, making the YouTube subscription of little value. Except you can feel good about supporting people who make the videos you watch. I will gladly throw a few bucks a month at youtube so I'm ad-free and channels like minutephysics get paid.

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[itzly]

Aren't you worried about the ethical choices you are making there?

Not at all. Why should I worry ?

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[xonen]

Which ethical choices you mean, the ones made by me as consumer or by them?

Spotify - 10 euro to get ad-free version
Netfix - 9 euro, ad free
HBO - 15 euro
Youtube - ? euro.
Torrents - free & ad free
National television - tax. about 50 euro / year - and still loaded with ads

So there are options, but they cost quite a bit, especially if you would want more than one. Having said that, maybe youtube will offer a really reasonable price (like $20 yearly) and i would consider it, but i doubt their pricetag will be that low.

I can't help that the 'default' state is to bombard listeners or viewers with ads. With up to 10-30% airtime spend on ads on some commercial TV but also on our national (tax payed) radio. With 30 second ads to watch a 2 minute video. And webpages with 75% ads and 25% content. And worse: the most annoying kind of ads, the ones that makes you pull your hair and actively makes you mute or switch channel.

If ads were not that obtrusive, no-one would bother to block them. However it became an arms race - where the blockers got better and the ads even more annoying.

So, i have no idea why you find it unethical that i, or any other customer, protect myself from ads. Or is it unethical to wear a safety belt, or earplugs at a rock concert, or safety glasses when using machinery, because i see very little difference between physical and mental damage (annoyance). I have the right to protect myself from unwanted influences.

I could even turn the argument and say no-one has the right to (un)consciously steer my (shopping) behaviour. Others would even make the argument that obesity and smoking addictions are largely caused by advertising. So again, who's being unethical here?

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[itzly]

And what gives you the prerogative to be the freeloader? Obviously not everyone can be.

It's technically possible to block ads, it's legal, and I don't like to watch ads. That's all I need to worry about. I have no control over everybody else. But in case everybody else does the same, then either the service will stop, or will implement technical/legal measures to force people to pay or watch ads. When that happens, I'll decide what I do.

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[itzly]

So you don't recognize YouTube brings any value to you? Shouldn't they be able to decide how to monetize it? After all, it's their website.

Of course. If they want to reduce the value that YouTube brings, they can do that. I've seen mention of a fee of about $10/month. That would bring the net value for YouTube below zero, so I would probably stop watching it. I mostly watch it for entertainment anyway, and there's plenty of other entertainment available for free.

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[Anonymous Coward]

The content creators get their slice from advertisements as well.

In case you haven't noticed most of the youtube partners are now also ebegging for money from their subscribers via Patreon. If you have a popular youtube channel the amount of free stuff that your fans are willing send you is staggering. I'm sure that they are reporting all this free swag as taxable income.

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[Anonymous Coward]

After all, it's their website.

And it's my browser. It is up to me which scripts, images, and videos are allowed to load on my computer hardware. Back in the days of VCRs did you feel morally obligated to watch all the commercials, or are you one of those immoral deadbeats who fast forwarded through them?

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[Anonymous Coward]

After all, it's their website.

It's my bandwidth. It's my power. It's my computer.

Fuck them.

Fuck you for being such a selfish apologist for a multi-billion dollar company.

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[hairyfeet]

What gives them the right to risk our financial security?

If a store you went to told you that you have a 1 in 10 chance of being robbed and they would NOT do anything about it, would you shop there? Well those are EXACTLY the odds you take when you allow ads to run, as the absolute best scoring AV on the planet is a hair over 90%...that means 1 in 10 nasties WILL get through, throw in 0 day bugs where they don't have signatures? Your odds drop to around 1 in 7 last I checked. Considering we have bugs now that can lock ALL your data up for ransom which even the FBI can't crack? You'd have to be insane to allow ads to run, because even if you get "lucky" and the malware you end up with (which you WILL end up with, we've seen malware served in that past by pretty much every major website at 1 time or another) isn't ransomware? You will get to shell out to have your credit monitored, CC changed, have to change all your passwords...that is if they don't get to 'em first and hijack your accounts to spew spam and malware that is. Will the website that infected you pay for the cleanup? Not a chance in hell.

So until they are held to the same standards as B&M stores I do not care if they all go under, its not my fault they based their business model on putting their users at serious risk of being robbed.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Better remain with adblocker and give them a few bucks directly, google will not be able to tax it...

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[Anonymous Coward]

No. Give them some euros directly. This will be worth them "a few thousand clicks", and not give fat to google.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Are you worried about the ethical choice you are making when you mute a commercial? Or DVR a show and skip through them?

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[Anonymous Coward]

Most of the big ones do. AdBlock also lets you white-list individual channels that you want to support financially.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Creating content in order to get paid for it is despicable, and so is the quality of the wonderful (l)user-generated content on youtube.

One makes art for the sake of art, and one does not expect to be compensated for it. Do you know the meaning of the word entitlement, or can you only think in monetary terms? Seems to me that you are suffering under the assumption that the only way to encourage art is to pay for it. Such limited mind.

Did Comte Latreamont get paid for "The Songs Of Maldoror"?
Fuck you and your content creators, looking for a quick buck, rehashing same 7 plots, yuck. Calling the modern content garbage is an insult to garbage everywhere...

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[spintriae]

Why is the ethical responsibility on the end user? Does YouTube not benefit from the hard work of "content creators?" Keep in mind, there are plenty who YouTube doesn't compensate at all, who don't even have the option to display ads. There are a few ways they could level the playing field.

1. Display ads on every video and give every channel the option to collect a portion of the total revenue based on how many views they generate. This way, YouTube partners who call their ad-blocking viewers "unethical, freeloading scumbags" won't feel like hypocritical assholes when they enjoy non-partner content on YouTube.
2. Make the site paid-only and give every channel the option to collect a portion of the total revenue based on how many views they generate. This also eliminates the "unethical freeloading scumbag" problem. Of course, YouTube wouldn't do this because it would interfere with their oh-so-ethical data-mining operation.

It appears that YouTube has chosen a combination of these options with ad-free subscriptions. So now, they get my money, partners get a portion, and the non-partners I watch with my paid subscription continue to get absolutely nothing. Now that's what I call ethical!

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[Anonymous Coward]

You know, every time you watch PBS you are stealing ad revenue, why do you hate America, you dirty hippy communist?

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[dissy]

And what gives you the prerogative to be the freeloader? Obviously not everyone can be.

1) I just made $1500 in donations this month to my favorite four video streamers, with a fifth scheduled in a couple weeks (the one without paypal in another country, so takes a bit longer than normal)

I'm quite interested in your personal definition of "freeloader" if that is what you call me for blocking ads yet ensuring money lands in the pockets of the content creators I wish to continue creating content.

2) I have the same prerogative to be a "freeloader" as you have the prerogative to be a "script-kiddie hacker."

Stop trying to repeatedly infect my computers via flash exploits delivered over your ads and we'll talk about me not blocking them.

Until then, just remember that the unauthorized access to a computer act you perform is a very serious criminal act compared to the non-crime of blocking your ads that I do.

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[TCM]

I don't use an ad blocker per se. noscript + RequestPolicy somehow seem to prevent ads in videos. Maybe the ads come from different servers, I don't know.

I've never seen an ad in front of a video in years.

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[Anonymous Coward]

So basically "it's OK when I do it"?

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[Anonymous Coward]

Any serious youtube channel is merchandising themselves in ways that don't rely on $0.00000001 garnered from letting me know that there are singles in my area looking for fun. There's really only two channels I regularly watch on youtube and the creators of both of those receive support from me, one is produced by the gov't of the country in which I reside so my tax went to that... the other is run by the son of a friend and I shout him the odd beer or two by way of thanks... more than enough compensation.

What gives me the perogative to freeload from youtube (google)... how about the fact they are mining me a zillion other ways all the while managing to pay only a tiny fraction of the tax that they owe (according to the spirit but unfortunately not the letter of the law)... if their argument is that they avoid billions of tax payments due to being more clever than the people that set the tax rules then I say turn-about is fair play and I can avoid providing them with a revenue stream by being clever enough to install adblock.

Do no evil... sheesh, when was the last time you heard that tripe said with a straight face?

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[orasio]

There is a way to expand the model to the internet.

Say you pay a youtube subscription, and you get ad-free youtube, and for the same price, or for an additional, you get ad-free adsense.
That means you won't ever see an adsense ad again. The sites will still have the adsense code, and google will just micro-pay, based on your usage of their site, from your subscription money.

Doesn't look like a bulletproof strategy to me, but something like that might end up happening.

Additionally, those who don't use adsense would be at a disadvantage, because youtube subscribers won't be able to make ads go away.

Of course, the privacy implications of all this are huge, because you would be essentially logged in everywhere, and that's another service that google would be able to provide.

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[gnupun]

yeah, fuck all those content creators on youtube

So is google planning on paying 50-70% of their subscription fee to content creators? After all, without content, YouTube is useless and distributors should not be making all the money, like on rest of the internet. Flickr does not pay its photographers, stackoverflow.com, etc others do not.

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[Anonymous Coward]

If youtube is not able to sustain itself when faced with a swarm of 'freeloaders' like me
 
And that's it, isn't it? You're just a leech. Granted, you have the guts to admit it but that's what it really boils down to.
 
For those of us creating content and putting it out there it's a great service. I don't think it's unreasonable for a few sheckles to pass hands for what they're providing. But you people who consume endlessly with no talent nor desire to contribute see the value of nothing since you produce nothing... The moniker of the welfare nation.
 
Feel smug but it's people like you who are going to kill art and creativity, not those making a buck off it.

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[jones_supa]

YouTube does not use Flash-based ads.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Because it's been a free service for more than ten years. You can't tell me google can't afford it now that they make more than ever.
This is corruption plain and simple. It won't be more than two years before they show ads to even paying customers.

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[Chess_the_cat]

Pay them directly using Patreon or something similar. No reason to make your payments to YouTube/Google.

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[Mr. Slippery]

And what gives you the prerogative to be the freeloader? Obviously not everyone can be.

But I want everyone to be a "freeloader". I want everyone to block ads, at least ads-as-they-are-now, intrusive and tracking. Then when the system falls apart we can replace it with something better. (And almost anything would be better. Perhaps a combination of non-intrusive and non-tracking sponsorships along with a fee charged every ISP and distributed to content creators via statistics sampled from a set of volunteers, a la the Nielsen ratings.)

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[gnupun]

One makes art for the sake of art, and one does not expect to be compensated for it.

That would be true if art were created and hidden from everyone (art for art's sake only). But in reality, art is created for the benefit and enjoyment of others, and often to feed the ego of the creator. So you think the consumers of art should benefit from art, but it's despicable for the creator to benefit from his own work? That's some self-serving, slave-driving bullshit.

Calling the modern content garbage is an insult to garbage everywhere...

And how many times a day do you stop doing everything and stare at garbage for 5-20 minutes?

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[Anonymous Coward]

The content creators get their slice from advertisements as well.

Really? Then Google must owe me money because I've yet to see a dime of any advertisement that got ran on my video. Though, I remember in the ToC I read way back when, Google said they'd only pay out for highly viewed pages. Since my channel is very low volume, I guess I shouldn't expect to see any money... so I've no problem with people running ABP since it doesn't do me a damn bit of good when they don't anyway. Also, what Google pays out to the "million viewer" channels must be a pittance anyway, since they all have Patreon pages for more direct financial support anyway.

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[swillden]

Not even talking about the money spent, there is just no practical way for me to micro-pay for every site I go to

Check out Google Contributor. Of course it only micro-pays to sites that use Google's ad services, not all sites. But Google's ad services do cover a large chunk of the Internet. It's also still experimental.

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[UnknownSoldier]

> Aren't you worried about the ethical choices you are making there?

[Citation]

You're begging the question.

You haven't defined ethical choices, and you are implying / assuming there are some when you haven't even proved there are.

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[Anonymous Coward]

No, what ethical choices?

The other day I took a free sample. The person handing them out then went into a spiel about the product. I was not interested in listening any longer as it was too long so I walked away (They had such pressure of speech there was no opportunity to leave politely).

And on a different day at the local fair a vendor was handing out free samples. They came with all sorts of advertising for the product. A garbage bin was a few feet away. I quickly stripped off the excess trash attached to the free sample and discarded it.

If you feel I'm unethical for that, so be it. I don't care, and considering the amount of the exact same trash in the garbage and the number of people walking (running!) away from the free sample stand I'm not alone. I also view youtube this exact same way. Considering free samples haven't gone away, youtube probably won't either. And if either of those things goes away, feh, whatever. Dumb business choices have stupid results.

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[adolf]

I use Adblock Edge on my PC, but also have a script that periodically downloads a magic list of hosts, tucks it into a format that dnsmasq likes, and runs on my Tomato-based router (there are a million variations on this).

The latter hosts-hacking always catches Youtube ads on the PS3 and Chromecast, and usually* gets rid of them on other devices on the network.

*Usually as in I see an ad so infrequently, and only on my Android phone, that I can't be bothered with doing anything more about it.

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[adolf]

It's OK when you do it, too.

I don't care if you block ads, or use CSS overlays to give your Youtube experience an OMG Kittens theme, or molest yourself with a bristle brush.

What would not be OK is if my ISP or some other third party blocked ads on my behalf, used CSS overlays to give my Youtube experience an OMG Kittens theme, or molest me with a bristle brush.

Do you see the difference?

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[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks a lot dude, you went and summoned APK. Hope you're happy :-)

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[Anonymous Coward]

Aren't you worried about the ethical choices you are making there?

I am worried about the ethical choice exactly as much as the corporations trying to shove the unwanted advertisements down my throat. Like it or not, using ad blockers is legal, and why should ethical requirements only be applied to the consumer ?

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[KozmoStevnNaut]

I've found uBlock to be the best (and most resource-friendly) for Chrome, and it's available for Firefox now as well.

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[jones_supa]

Let me explain then.

YouTube allows you to watch videos in exchange of seeing some advertisements. This is the deal that they offer. If you use AdBlock, you drop your part, which is viewing those advertisements. My claim is that breaking the deal would be unethical, as you are being unfair towards the other party.

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[Mahldcat]

only problem is they are now injecting video ads in the middle of the videos (which drives me absolutely INSANE)....

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[Anonymous Coward]

LOL you must be a shill. Your view is so fucked.
Get your head out of googles ass. They don't give a fuck about content creators. They just want your data to sell you junk you don't need. And to that, I say fuck em. Adblockedge all day everyday. Twice on Sunday's.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Me too. I'm using YouTube logged out even on my Android phone and tablet (Google Maps too).

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[Anonymous Coward]

The people placing youtube ads don't really care if I watch them. What they really do care about is whether I actually BUY their product. If their youtube ad simply pisses me off and biases me against their product, then they surely would prefer I not see it. After all, isn't that what targeted advertising is all about? Since I have never bought anything based on targeted advertising, or unwanted youtube or web ads, it is in the advertisers' interests for me to NOT see their ads. So, by blocking their ads, I am doing the advertisers a service. In addition, it would be nice if they did not have to pay for my eyeballs, which are actually of no benefit to them. If youtube is charging them for eyeballs that will never buy the product, then youtube is perpetrating the moral equivalent of fraud.

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[jones_supa]

Actually that is a good counterargument. Also I extremely rarely buy something that I see on YouTube ads.

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[dissy]

Oh, so I'm a freeloader because I both directly pay the content producers I watch, and apparent DON'T block ads either?

Good to know

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[Anonymous Coward]

Jesus Christ, you're like Robert Downey Jr in Less Than Zero.
You've never seen a dick (even one rot encrusted) you wouldn't greedily suck for any pittance thrown your way...

heh, captcha: furrier

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[speedlaw]

I'm sufficiently concerned that I use a private company for my mail. I could do it for "free", but prefer to pay for my work files not being data mined... You mean there are folks who don't ad-block ? Oh, and yes, I do FF commercials. The second thing I did with my Tivo was to activate the 30 second skip. That alone is worth the monthly subscription fee.

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[Anonymous Coward]

PBS doesn't have ads? Only in Fantasy Land.

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[cmdr_klarg]

Ethics my ass!

There are some professions known for ethics, and marketing sure as hell isn't one of them. I'll turn off adblocking when it can be guaranteed that I won't acquire malware in the process.

No, scratch that. I truly hate most ads. In their current state they are a blight on civilization. 99% of the time they are nothing but an involuntary time waster, like understaffed checkout lines and stop lights. Why the hell should I have to spend several seconds of my precious lifetime in order for some slimy marketer to make a buck?

Fuck 'em. They can go find something to do that benefits society instead of wasting everyone's time.

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[Anonymous Coward]

"Aren't you worried about the ethical choices you are making there?"

Mr. Supa apparently took a nap during Western Philosophy 101. He is describing Moral Choices, not Ethical ones. Quick recap:
Three classes of Moral Choices: Moral, Immoral, Amoral.
Two classes of Ethical Choices: Ethical and Unethical.

Moral Choices are Authoritarian: The Archbishop says not to eat meat on Fridays.
Ethical Choices come through reasoning: Not eating meat on Fridays is healthier, and environmentally and financially sound.

Because Moral Choices can never be agreed upon other than by appeal to Authority, they have little Legal backing.
On the other hand, there are Institutions and agreements governing Legal, Business, Medical, and increasingly, Scientific Ethics. Note the utter lack of the word "Moral".

This case is covered by concepts of Legal and Business Ethics. Content Creators, Marketing, and YouTube no doubt have all sorts of Contracts, Contracts explicitly signed between these parties.
There is no Contract between YouTube viewers and any of the above, and thus no Legal basis for governing how Content is viewed, or not viewed. If YouTube was really irritated with me, they can deny me access completely. There is no Law that says they can't. They can arrange it so that my choices in viewing is limited. No Law there either.
Ethically, and Legally, they can not compel me to watch _anything_.

So their only recourse is to throw out a couple of Millennia of Contract Law, and appeal to Morality, with this reasoning:
Not watching Advertising is Wrong. (Why?)
Bypassing Advertising with Software is Wrong. (Why?)
People have a right to earn Money. (Huh?)
Some people may earn some money, by my watching an Advertisement. (And Some are more equal than others.)
It would be very wrong for me to deny them that right to a piece of me. (Which I never explicitly agreed to.)
It would be Immoral of me. I would be a "Freeloader", or some other Morally-loaded word. (Socialist! Anarchist! PBS Watcher!)

Ah, but we see through them. _Everybody_ involved with Marketing has the "Morals" of an Alley Cat on Meth. Since they won't clean up their act, and the acts of others in their Industry, they are _all_ equally to blame for the sorry mess that Online Advertising has gotten to.
Now the neat thing about blocking _all_ advertising in my Browsers, is that there is no value judgments; no reasoning as to whether one ad is "Better" than another.
This is actually an Amoral Choice; I don't care. But it is also an Ethical Choice. By not wasting Time, Electrons, and Bandwidth on their crappy ads, I am making the World Objectively a little better.

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[Altrag]

There's a bit of a practicality problem there -- every website would need to reformat its layout to handle the "has ads" vs "doesn't have ads" contexts.

And if they don't (and lets be honest, you have to expect that most of them won't,) the adspace will just have to be filled up with something else. So you're essentially replacing one waste of space with a different waste of space.

I suppose if the different waste of space was at least not a link, it would save the occasional misclick taking you to some BS sales site and having to hit the back button.

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[Altrag]

Then they need to give me a way to opt-out of ad-encrusted videos all together. Or better yet, make it an opt-in so that I'm consciously aware that I'm "paying" them by viewing ads.

If it was money (rather than time) that they just arbitrarily siphoned out of me without my consent, they would be right the hell up shit creek. My time has value as well so why should they be allowed to take it without my consent?

Even if that's only the couple of seconds it takes me to decide whatever video I'm trying to watch is or isn't worth the 30 seconds of ads, that's still 10-20% of the ad being shown to me -- and in the case that I decide its not worth it, that's a few seconds of my time that I've given to them that I got nothing for in return.

Add that up over however many thousand Youtube videos a person is likely to browse in a year these days and that's quite a chunk of time blown without my consent and potentially without even the limited benefit to me of watching someone's cat being dumb.

I don't mind Google's in-line ads. They're usually fairly unobtrusive and they at least try to customize them to the content I'm viewing at the time. But the Youtube video ads are more along the lines of the old Geocities-era flashing crap.. you know the exact same crap that Adsense mostly supplanted -- horribly obnoxious and completely unavoidable other than closing the window (or having an ad blocker.)

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[Dishevel]

Youtube actually offers quite a bit. I would gladly pay them to remove ads and keep the the things I want and use. The fact that AC needs Youtube all the time, uses an adblocker to get rid of the ads but will not pay Youtube even though they offer him stuff he likes and uses is pretty fucking stupid.

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[Anonymous Coward]

It's funny how poor euros are. 50 euro/month is a lot of money to you people? Seriously, no wonder your economies are in the shitter.

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[martas]

It's technically possible to block ads, it's legal, and I don't like to watch ads

That doesn't make it ethical to block ads. Look, I use adblock too, so I'm not telling you to stop, but at least admit that it's ethically questionable.

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[martas]

Well, if you're using machinery that someone loaned you with the understanding that you wouldn't wear safety glasses and then his buddy would charge you to get the metal bits out of your eyes if you got any, then yeah, it's kind of ethically questionable for you to wear safety glasses.

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[orasio]

Lost of people seem to be happy with adblock.
Think of it as as server side adblock, at the very least.

Also, with responsive design and everything, this would be a problem, but not a big one.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Yes it's ok for you to take something for free, but not when someone offers it to you.

Re:ad blocker?

[Altrag]

The difference is that the web developer doesn't have an agreement with Adblock, whereas they DO have an agreement with Google.

So Google has a higher responsibility to make sure things work "right" than adblock does. If adblock messes up a page layout somehow and you try to bring that up with the page developer they're going to go tell you to piss off. If its Google messing up their page however, things are a little hairier because there's an actual deal in place there.

Re:ad blocker?

[UnknownSoldier]

> YouTube allows you to watch videos in exchange of seeing some advertisements.

First, allows, as in "not required."

> This is the deal that they offer. If you use AdBlock, you drop your part,

Second: You are failing to understand what a contract is. There is no obligation to something that was never agreed upon in the first place.

You keep assuming that a user gave their tacit consent to this behavior. That is a fallacy.

When a user watches a video there is no checkbox to agree to their obnoxious Terms of Service. Ergo, there is no "ethical choice" to be made, because there never was one in the first place.

> you are being unfair towards the other party.

Quick, somebody call the wambulance.

Are you next going to arguing the stupidity of "someone closing their eyes for a youtube ad" is "being "unfair" and unethical" ??

That horse has already left the barn. Closing the barn doors aren't going to work, no matter how hard they try. Trying to force users to watch ads they don't want is only idiotic and damages the YouTube brand. If their business model is broken and archaic they are being unfair to all their shareholders.

When YouTube beings to pay my internet bill for _my bandwidth_ for their shitty ads THEN, maybe, they can talk. Until then, they are just wasting my time AND bandwidth.

Re:ad blocker?

[jones_supa]

You keep assuming that a user gave their tacit consent to this behavior.

No, I don't. You are shifting the goalposts. We were talking about what is ethical and what is not. Not about literal agreements.

Re:ad blocker?

[UnknownSoldier]

> This is the deal that they offer. If you use AdBlock, you drop your part,

Read what you wrote again.

You keep assuming there is an obligation, namely, an ethical obligation.

You are begging the question.

There is no ethical obligation because there never was an agreement in the first place.

Your ethical claim is meritless.

Re: ad blocker?

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm glad he did. Adblock uses more resources, does less + operates from a slower less CPU serviced mode of operations in usermode vs. hosts operating in faster kernelmode.

I can offer the same thing for free

[mlkj]

Just download an ad-blocker.

I wonder if they are planning some anti-adblocker measures, or if they are just unaware that their business plan is completely flawed.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Anonymous Coward]

anti-adblocker measures,

inb4drm

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Anonymous Coward]

Or maybe they're safe in the knowledge that while most geeks might use adblockers, the overwhelming majority of the population don't.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Darinbob]

This is sort of true. However I'm seeing a lot of youtube ads lately, but on my TV. Now if I can convince Roku to add an ad blocker...

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[loufoque]

Google earns all of their money through Internet ads.
That must mean not everyone uses adblockers.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Anonymous Coward]

I can offer the same thing for free. Just download an ad-blocker.

That is piracy.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Anonymous Coward]

I for one cannot wait to see the bloody war of Google vs AdBlock Edge. The only way they can win is to render the ads into the video itself.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Anonymous Coward]

no it's selfdefense from the pirates trying to destroy your privacy

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[AmiMoJo]

You can block them at the router level. I don't have my settings to hand right now, but a quick google should find some suitable HTTP filtering rules.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Anonymous Coward]

No. It's the only sane thing to do surfing the web these days.
Also, for Windows users, it keeps malware farther away.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[UnknownSoldier]

> The only way they can win is to render the ads into the video itself.

The technical term is "Dynamic (content) Ingestion"

That's what the cable industry does. Want to watch something on demand? Be prepared for a 30 second ad every 20 minutes.

Fortunately Google hasn't figured this out, yet. They are still probably weighing the pro's and con's.

That's the funny thing about the internet. Piss the mass community off too much and they will abandon ship for yet-another-site that offers the same functionality without the hassles.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Anonymous Coward]

That is piracy.

No, the ad-blocker is free, and can be downloaded entirely legally. It is also legal to use, regardless of whether advertisers like it or not, as there is no law (yet ?) that makes watching ads mandatory.

Re:I can offer the same thing for free

[Anonymous Coward]

Is there an ad blocker for Hulu?

For Google search too?

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd pay for a search engine which is regularly third party audited to make sure no advertising, tracking or logging.

Re: For Google search too?

[Anonymous Coward]

Isn't duckduckgo free?

Re: For Google search too?

[Anonymous Coward]

With the added bonus that it doesn't violate your privacy.
Or track you across the web, as Google does.

It's disgusting how many government sites -- which we have no choice but to use -- implement Google Analytics. I block it, but "normal" people have no idea, allowing Google to make & send even more billions off to tax-havens.

Don't be evil ... ha !

Re: For Google search too?

[Anonymous Coward]

Third party regular audits?

I'm not joking. Anyone can promise anything - a large group of disparate, independent individuals are needed to confirm all promises.

Re:For Google search too?

[Ash-Fox]

I'd pay for a search engine which is regularly third party audited to make sure no advertising, tracking or logging.

This search engine may meet your requirements and interest you:

https://eu.startpage.com/uk/ab...

Given that adblock stops ads cold... meh

[Karmashock]

I turn my adblock off most of the time. However sometimes ads are really obnoxious. I saw one that came up on every little video I wanted to watch. The ads were like 30 seconds long and you couldn't skip it... and I had seen the exact same ad 10 times in a row. So I turned adblock on because I was done looking at that ad.

I also turn it on whenever I really don't want to support the video or site. You know what I'm talking about. Sometimes you need to go to a site and hear them repeat their stupidity just so you know that whomever told you that information second hand wasn't exaggerating. And often as not they weren't and I'm quite happy they didn't get the penny or whatever they get from my click.

Re:Given that adblock stops ads cold... meh

[drinkypoo]

Google may be testing adblock-blocking. Yesterday and today, Youtube stopped working from any device in my household in the evening. Everything else including other google services kept working fine, and nobody else on the internets seemed to be having the same problem.

Re:Given that adblock stops ads cold... meh

[DocSavage64109]

I've tried to turn my blocker off a few times, but ads are so pervasive and annoying that I can't even last 5 minutes and re-enable them.

Re:Given that adblock stops ads cold... meh

[Karmashock]

youtube is annoying youtubers lately. There is a possibility they'll be an exodus if they annoy them enough.

Re:Given that adblock stops ads cold... meh

[Anonymous Coward]

I noticed that even with javascript turned off, embedded videos from youtube showed the frowny face. Definitely some experimenting going on. I smell an arms race.

Re:Given that adblock stops ads cold... meh

[Anonymous Coward]

Exodus to where?
There will be no exodus unless some of the bigger youtubers leave and they won't leave unless the new gig can match the old money.

Re:Given that adblock stops ads cold... meh

[Karmashock]

There are dozens of video streaming sites that would sell both their testicles to have a fraction of youtube's traffic. And lets not pretend that anything youtube does is technically difficult in the 21st century. There are many competitors ready and waiting.

Soundcloud is a good example. You might also want to look at vemo or whatever that one is called. Some youtubers replicate their videos across multiple services and if youtube really decides to strap razor blades to their cock and rape the community, then they have places to go and they'll leave.

No Thanks1

[dohzer]

I'll just keep muting the audio and reading another tab until the 30 seconds has elapsed.

Re:No Thanks1

[jones_supa]

Except that all YouTube ads can be skipped after 5 seconds.

Re:No Thanks1

[itzly]

Then rewind back to the start of the video.

Re:No Thanks1

[jones_supa]

Why?

Re:No Thanks1

[itzly]

Rewind if you waited too long and the real video already started playing.

Re:No Thanks1

[dohzer]

Not all. Occasionally I get ones that I have to wait the full ad.

Re:No Thanks1

[jones_supa]

:D

Re:No Thanks1

[jones_supa]

Ah yes, I remember those now. In Finland ad pool those are extremely rare.

Re:No Thanks1

[Anonymous Coward]

This is not true at all. Of course, judging from your other comments on this article, you're a Google sockpuppet, so you already knew that you weren't telling the truth.

Re:No Thanks1

[UnknownSoldier]

Quit being a shill of ignoring the actual problem.

Half-assed "solutions" are still "half-assed"

HTML5

[Kunedog]

Just download an ad-blocker.

I wonder if they are planning some anti-adblocker measures, or if they are just unaware that their business plan is completely flawed.

How fortunate that, as a browser maker (along with Microsoft and Apple), they've coincidentally pushed for DRM to become part of web standards.

And that they obtained considerable financial influence over the browser maker thought most likely to resist (Mozilla).

And that Mozilla gave in.

Have they not heard

[MechaStreisand]

... of AdBlock?

Why would anyone pay for this?

Re:Have they not heard

[Anonymous Coward]

There will be a magic threshold somewhere.
When they are losing enough money to adblocking they'll embed advertisements into the video stream itself.

Re:Have they not heard

[Anonymous Coward]

It would be technically trivial to make adblockers useless; they just haven't, yet.

Re:Have they not heard

[Kohlrabi82]

From my experience and knowledge, browsers on mobile devices don't have ad blocker plugins, and certainly the youtube apps for mobile platforms don't have them. I guess that's the market they're aiming for.

Re:Have they not heard

[itzly]

There's an adblock plus proxy server app that works for wifi connections. I've never looked for a 4G solution. My data plan is only 1GB/month, and youtube eats that too quickly.

Re:Have they not heard

[Ash-Fox]

From my experience and knowledge, browsers on mobile devices don't have ad blocker plugins

On Firefox for Android, I use the following extension "Bluhell Firewall" (ad blocker), "Clean Links" (converts those tracking links that embed URLs to actual URLs) and "I don't care about cookies" (gets rid of banners) and my password management tool. Firefox's extensibility makes it hard for me to even consider other browsers.

Re:Have they not heard

[LoneTech]

They have heard of adblock. In fact, when I specifically requested to pay them so they could pay the content creators without showing me ads, they refused and even mentioned ad blocking. Note my motivation in that sentence; this is actually a feature requested by some of us. This announcement got my hopes up just a bit, but it remains to be seen if it's like the offline watching, which was riddled with strange restrictions, never worked properly, and was quietly removed. I see they're still talking about that in the future tense.

Re:Have they not heard

[Jesrad]

I use MxTube on (jailbroken) iPhone to store offline copies of youtube videos I want to watch, there are no ads left there except for the discreet bottom banner in the main menu of the app itself. I have to store the videos because my commute train goes through big no-reception zones most of the time and I only have a 2Gb/month plan anyway, I grab the videos at home from the wifi the evening before.

I would so use an official Youtube app that would let me store the videos locally, even with the ads. I have no adblock on my browser - if the ads are annoying I just go read something else and never return.

Re:Have they not heard

[AmiMoJo]

Various ad blocker are available for Android. They fall into two categories, those that use passive blocking with the hosts file and those that set up a HTTP proxy running on the device and re-write HTML on the fly. The latter are pretty similar to how AdBlock works, only done in a proxy instead of in the browser's DOM.

Both work with YouTube. I don't get YouTube ads on my phone.

Re:Have they not heard

[Anonymous Coward]

No it's not so trivial.
On regular sites, the ad networks want to serve themselves, to avoid the server of the customer to generat false clicks.
On youtube, they probably don't want to generate that many videos ( you'd have to regenerate when changing the ads), which would consume a huge lot of power.

Re:Have they not heard

[TCM]

Encoding targeted ads in real-time into every video? Yeah, that'll work.

Re:Have they not heard

[Aqualung812]

Why would anyone pay for this?

Because some of us don't take all of the pennies from the "Take a penny" plate, and we don't take all the free chips home.

Servers cost money to buy, power, cool, and replace. Networks cost money. Getting that cat video to you isn't free, why do you expect that you get to take and give nothing?

Re:Have they not heard

[mjtaylor24601]

[Have they not heard ] of AdBlock?

Yes we have.

Why would anyone pay for this?

Because some people appreciate the value that YouTube and (some of) the content creators that post there provide and would like a safe and convenient way to kick back a few bucks to ensure that everyone involved is able to pay their rent.

Re:Have they not heard

[itzly]

Getting that cat video to you isn't free, why do you expect that you get to take and give nothing?

I don't expect anything, but as long as it works, I'll take it.

Re:Have they not heard

[adolf]

There is a third category in the form of an Xposed module that eradicates Youtube ads on Android.

Re:Have they not heard

[Mahldcat]

actually they are already doing this (saw this on my mobile, XBox, and PC, they break the video at mid cycle and inject an "interstitial" video ad, and then continue where they broke in....highly annoying

Re:Have they not heard

[Anonymous Coward]

Firefox mobile had a plugin update in the past few months. ABP is now available without having to go the proxy route. I just installed it as a plugin. I don't see any ads on wifi or mobile data.

Re:Have they not heard

[nehumanuscrede]

They take a lot more than you realize.

Unless you're actively masking them, they know what IP you're coming from. Your OS, etc. Their database can run a lookup and determine what your likes / dislikes are based on your browsing habits to other sites where their trackers reside. By visiting YouTube, you are simply giving them even more information about what you like / dislike.

So, I assure you, they are coming out of this a bit rosier than you give them credit for.

Don't believe it ? Turn all your counter-measures off and see how long it takes before you start seeing targeted ads.

Re:Have they not heard

[GrumpySteen]

The same reason people pay for Netflix rather than downloading the same movies and shows from a torrent.

Re:Have they not heard

[Anonymous Coward]

Google is making BILLIONS. BILLIONS. Why do you care?

Well

[Anonymous Coward]

If they would ensuro i dont see same annoying add twenty five times in every damn video i watch. Husqvarna with their green roofs of newyork thanks you. I learned to hate that series before i watched even single episode...

Just fiwsh thy would not disable that skip this add in 5 seconds in some adds..

Ultra low usage tier

[Quick Reply]

I like the concept of paying for content to support my usage instead of going through annoying ads, but I don't use Youtube all that often, usually only because someone else has given me a link to something in particular. Those 30 second ads which sometimes lets you skip after 5 seconds and sometimes don't let you skip at all are really annoying. I hope that they give a low-tier option. For example $1 per year which is good for ad-free (or no forced ads) up to 500 videos.

The most important thing is that I hope that the subscription options are compelling enough that someone would WANT to use it over the use of an Adblocker without any Adblocking counter-measures put in place.

If it is successful (for consumers) it would be great if an ad-free pass could be extended across any other websites too that participate, not just Youtube.

I use Adblock because the quality of advertising is too invasive, not because I don't to deprive websites of revenue.

Not for content people upload today

[aepervius]

More likely it is for syndicated or special content only available for paid subscription. IOW, films, tv series, shows, anime & cartoon, presentations, etc.... It is also most probably not in the interest of content producer to suddenly shift behind a pay wall : this would completely dry instantly revenue up. Far more probably some part of the content of higher quality would be behind a subscription, while the lower quality content to bait people would be publicly available.

TV vs YT

[TapeCutter]

It's very odd behaviour - people bitch and moan about YT ads or the thought of paying a nominal amount to remove them. How many of these same people have paid a couple of grand for a flat screen TV that broadcasts unavoidable ads for 1/4 of the time it's on?

Re:TV vs YT

[Anonymous Coward]

"How many of these same people have paid a couple of grand for a flat screen TV that broadcasts unavoidable ads for 1/4 of the time it's on?"

Funny you should say that. My large flat screen TV has never once shown me an ad. I ditched cable TV over a decade ago over the ads and never went back. When I was at a relative's house recently and we watched a movie on their cable TV it quickly reminded me of ALL the reasons I ditched the turd.

Re:TV vs YT

[Anonymous Coward]

Watching TV isn't the only thing you can do on a TV.

Re:TV vs YT

[itzly]

Depends on what a nominal amount is. I've heard $10/month. If that value is per user, I would pay $40/month for a family of 4, which would double my internet bill, just to watch a single website. That's not going to happen.

How many of these same people have paid a couple of grand for a flat screen TV that broadcasts unavoidable ads for 1/4 of the time it's on?

I got a free TV from a friend who just bought a bigger one. And I watch TV through a DVR that has a pause and skip button, so I don't see any ads.

Re:TV vs YT

[stooo]

>> people bitch and moan about YT ads

Which Youtube ads ?
I don't see any.

Re:TV vs YT

[squiggleslash]

FWIW I don't have a problem paying for content. That said, I would imagine most people who do as you're suggesting also use a DVR for watching those TV channels that are 25%+ ads, making those ads very avoidable.

Adblockers

[Anonymous Coward]

"Aw yeah, finally, they are adding a non-intrusive way to view Youtube! Now I can disable my adblocker and pay for it instead of seeing stupid ads all the time!"

Said nobody ever.
You adblocker fucks are hypocrites. You DO want a free lunch.

Re:Adblockers

[Anonymous Coward]

No one will, or should, disable their adblocker. Ads are the primary distribution vector for malware nowadays and an adblocker is the most important safety mechanism everyone should have on their computer.
The moral objections to adblockers, and with it the chance to charge people for an ad-free experience, disappeared once websites started using third-party ad networks and ads that aren't simple image files.

Re:Adblockers

[jones_supa]

YouTube ads are only pictures, so there is no malware risk.

Re:Adblockers

[Anonymous Coward]

The most blatant of your lies yet!

Re:Adblockers

[speedlaw]

Whenever I get the "please remove my viruses and why is google now some odd page I've never heard of" request, the computer is left with full on ad and flash blockers, with instructions on how to use them.

Re:Adblockers

[jones_supa]

Proof?

Re:Adblockers

[Anonymous Coward]

Here you go... first 3 hits on asking our favourite search engine:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/youtube-has-an-ad-malware-problem-heres-how-to-avoid-it/

http://labs.bromium.com/2014/02/21/the-wild-wild-web-youtube-ads-serving-malware/

http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/youtube-ads-lead-to-exploit-kits-hit-us-victims/

No doubt you'll protest that this is so last year and nothing like this could possibly happen in this day and age. So my question to you is... how much are you being paid to astro-turf this thread shill boy? Seriously, shills are usually much harder to spot than this.

Re:Adblockers

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't think that you know the name "Pepsi Cola" to be malware?

Re:Adblockers

[nmb3000]

"Aw yeah, finally, they are adding a non-intrusive way to view Youtube! Now I can disable my adblocker and pay for it instead of seeing stupid ads all the time!"

Said nobody ever.

That's funny, since that's exactly what I did for Pandora. AdBlock Plus makes Pandora pretty much ad-free, but when I started using it more I decided that I wanted to support companies which offer a way to pay for their service aside from advertising (which I find completely unacceptable and have no compunctions blocking). Pandora isn't the only company whose service I pay for, but it's surprisingly hard to find companies who offer a reasonably priced subscription model. Many expect you to shell out 50x as much money as they'd make off you via advertising, and even more completely ignore that for an ad-blocking user, their gain via conversion to a subscriber is 100%.

You adblocker fucks are hypocrites. You DO want a free lunch.

Ad blockers are simply a form a civil disobedience against the corporate marketing and advertising asshats who are trying to redefine and take over the Internet. It isn't illegal and isn't immoral. The fact that it improves the online experience (your "free lunch") is just a nice side effect.

youtube-dl - cross platform FOSS/ supports proxies

[Anonymous Coward]

there's a rumored 3rd party GUI, but I wouldn't trust it unless the code quality is cleared by someone with the know how.

there's also the rumor of a few FOSS media players working well with youtube-dl, too.

"Download videos from YouTube (and more sites)"

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-...

"youtube-dl is a small command-line program to download videos from YouTube.com and a few more sites. It requires the Python interpreter (2.6, 2.7, or 3.2+), and it is not platform specific. We also provide a Windows executable that includes Python. youtube-dl should work in your Unix box, in Windows or in Mac OS X. It is released to the public domain, which means you can modify it, redistribute it or use it however you like."

- Enough cmdline options for just about everyone!
https://github.com/rg3/youtube...

- Discussion:
https://news.ycombinator.com/i...

No thanks

[vinaychittora]

That was very generous dude. But no thanks, Adblocker works just fine for me.

This doesn't help Partners.

[REALMAN]

Adblock plus negates the need for this service and furthermore the "additional" source of revenue is not really additional. It merely replaces the "monetized view" you would have been paid for anyway.

Re:This doesn't help Partners.

[Anonymous Coward]

Adblock plus negates the need for this service and furthermore the "additional" source of revenue is not really additional. It merely replaces the "monetized view" you would have been paid for anyway.

i highly doubt that. i really don't think the google with be charging me the fraction of a penny that they might receive in ad revenue from my particular view. instead it will likely be at least $5 a month, possibly much more so i absolutely count that as additional revenue.

Yes, ads are evil

[Anonymous Coward]

Absolutely. Ads are corrupting our society, creating wasteful consumption, creating surveillance infrastructure, etc. Ads are evil.

Ad blockers help you avoid the most immediate harm from the ads themselves, but they also detach you from the societal harm.

We need ad blockers that log where the ads come from to discourage you if you ever try to buy anything online that someone tried to advertise to you.

Just ignoring the problem won't make it go away.

Re:Yes, ads are evil

[Chalnoth]

So, are content providers evil for wanting money for their work?

This kind of service allows content providers to continue to get money, while at the same time delivering an ad-free experience to users.

If you don't like ads, but you also don't want to pay for content posted on the web, well, that's not a very ethical position.

Already there for music videos

[wbr1]

If you subscribe to google play music, you tube music vids are ad free, and you can download for offline viewing on a mobile device. In addition you can finally listen to any youtube video with the screen off.

Re:Already there for music videos

[ruir]

I have downloaded the tube vids for years now. Whats the point?

Re:Already there for music videos

[Anonymous Coward]

Adblock Plus and anything like ClickToFlash have let you download 1080p youtube for years. You're just getting hustled.

Stupid-Tax

[Anonymous Coward]

And what gives you the prerogative to be the freeloader?

The ability and the brains to simply install a free ad-blocker. The ads are just another form of Stupid-Tax.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Anonymous Coward]

It's my computer and I'm paying for my bandwidth.

So no, you are not running your ads on my machine. I'm not interested in your ads..

End of discussion really.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[jones_supa]

Try to look it from the perspective of YouTube too.

"It's our website and we are paying for our bandwidth, hosting expenses, staff and development costs.

So no, you are not running AdBlock on your machine. We are not interested in your freeloading.

End of discussion really."

Re:Stupid-Tax

[itzly]

We are not interested in your freeloading.

Then stop offering the material on a public server.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[McWilde]

Wait, that can't be right. I am actually running AdBlock on my machine, so it's not really the end of the discussion. I don't see how their paying for bandwidth is giving them power over my machine. Also: by not requesting their ads I'm saving them bandwidth too. They can do whatever they like on their end, but they choose to still serve me and other freeloaders the video streams we request. Apparently they are interested in our freeloading.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[jones_supa]

Facepalm...that's how ad-based websites work!

Re:Stupid-Tax

[jones_supa]

Why are you trying so hard to not play nice with them? YouTube lets you watch videos for free, provided that you watch these small advertisements every now and then. You are making various complex excuses to not agree with that simple deal.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm just not interested in ads. I'm not buying a car anytime soon, I've already got insurance, my dick still works, and I know where to get my porn. What do ads do for me besides track my online movements, offer me crap I don't want or need, potentially serve malware, and waste my time and bandwidth?

Re:Stupid-Tax

[jones_supa]

That's like taking a job and telling your manager: "Gee...I'm not that interested in the work part, can you just pay me salary while I sip mojitos at home?"

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Anonymous Coward]

That's their problem.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Anonymous Coward]

No.
It's more like getting a job and your boss saying: "Here is a bunch of money. Maybe you can do some work every now and then."
Just because they gave you a bunch of money doesn't mean you have to do anything.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[itzly]

The difference is that I signed a contract with my employer.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[MitchDev]

I didn't agree to view ads, why should I?

No legal requirement, so no obligation either.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Gavagai80]

If youtube wants to stop freeloading, they can detect and ad-blockers and prevent using the site with one, just like hulu and a bunch of other websites do.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[TCM]

Correction: That's how marketing scum wants it to work.

As was said, it's my machine. It runs code and downloads data _I_ want, not you. Don't like it? Go invent your own Internet with your own protocols that grant you more control and stop freeloading on the open protocols we already have!

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Wootery]

No legal requirement, so no obligation either.

No legal obligation.

You're still a freeloader.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[itzly]

No legal obligation.

No other obligation either.

But suppose I watch the ads, do I then have an obligation to change my buying patterns, or is it okay to freeload on the creative effort it took to make the ad, and the bandwidth required to serve it ?

Re:Stupid-Tax

[pla]

Facepalm...that's how ad-based websites work!

Yes and no. You have it basically correct, but have omitted a key fact in this particular situation - Youtube can only exist by virtue of the fact that its users give them the vast majority of their content.

It sounds great, as a business model, to get paid for reselling something you can get for free, but not all of your audience will quietly put up with the fact that they count as the product.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Anonymous Coward]

More like your manager coming to you and saying "your duties now include XYZ (watching ads) *or* you can take a pay cut (pay to avoid the ads)"... uh, yeah, no, good luck finding someone else to cover my current duties for what you're paying me now.

Look, I'm sure that youtube has crunched the numbers and have determined this will make them more money so who cares if the freeloaders walk away. The problem will be where the freeloaders go. This isn't like 40 years ago when starting a new broadcasting network was impossible... catvids.com could pop up overnight and suck half the youtube traffic away in a heartbeat. Just as they want people to pay they also don't want people to leave, they will suffer the freeloaders indefinitely.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[RavenLrD20k]

They wanna have ads reach me, they can put up a static banner and be just as effective, and ABP has an option where those can be viewed without being blocked. At times when I'm on a system without ABP installed, I've yet to see a pertinent ad video that appealed to me. The really funny part is when they show an irrelevant ad video before I can view another ad video that I'm actually interested in watching (usually a movie trailer or tech demo).

Re:Stupid-Tax

[UnknownSoldier]

Except you str ignoring the facts that YouTube was started in 2005 and adverts didn't show up until 2006.

* The Internet domain name "youtube.com" was activated on February 14, 2005.
* Advertisements were launched on the site beginning in March 2006.

And before you whine about Wikipedia, this graphic confirms ads didn't exist at first either.

Giving something away for free and then switching to "mandatory viewing" is classic bait-n-switch.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[UnknownSoldier]

Why is YouTube not being respectful of my time?

> YouTube lets you watch videos for free, provided that you watch these small advertisements every now and then.

You keep using this word "Free." It doesn't mean what you think it means.

Free means: "No Strings Attached"

Not "First you need to fulfill this requirement."

Quite hijacking "free" and perverting its definition.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[MitchDev]

Too bad your opinion doesn't count...

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Anonymous Coward]

they can detect and ad-blockers and prevent using the site with one, just like hulu and a bunch of other websites do.

And for websites that employ anti-adblocking technology, I can choose to view their ads, or not view their content. It is up to them whether they wish to deliver it to me. However, it is my decision on what and how I use the content that they deliver.

So far, Google has been content to collect their analytics while delivering videos. Now it seems that analytics are not enough to pay the bills. First you offer a way to pay to avoid ads within their system, then you "release the hounds" of anti-adblocking and force them to view the ads or pay.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Anonymous Coward]

Which all failed gloriously against Opera 12.

I miss the old Opera. Presto NEEDS to be open sourced.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[martas]

But the server is their machine. They serve you data under the unspoken understanding that you see their ads. By breaking that, you become the farmer whose cattle graze on public land (so am I, by the way, because fuck ads).

stop freeloading on the open protocols we already have

It's semantically impossible to freeload on an open protocol.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[TCM]

But it is possible to freeload on... publicly served data? You're not making any sense.

I request, they serve. I can do whatever I want with their data on my machine. There's not even a contract here.

"Unspoken understanding" in the context of a multi-million dollar faceless corporation. That actually made me chuckle. They're the first ones to break the unspoken understanding of paying proper taxes for example and I'm supposed to let them infest my machine with bullshit? GTFO.

Go and make me sign a contract or don't serve your shit freely. Easy.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[martas]

I request, they serve. I can do whatever I want with their data on my machine. There's not even a contract here.

You seem to be confusing legality and technical feasibility with ethics.

"Unspoken understanding" in the context of a multi-million dollar faceless corporation. That actually made me chuckle. They're the first ones to break the unspoken understanding of paying proper taxes for example and I'm supposed to let them infest my machine with bullshit? GTFO.

I don't see what one has to do with the other.

Re:Stupid-Tax

[Wootery]

do I then have an obligation to change my buying patterns

No.

I've used AdBlock too on occasion, but there is a point to be made that 'overuse' of it would be bad for the web.

Make me pay so Evil gets to spy more accurately?

[Anonymous Coward]

Nice ploy. Get people to hand over their credit card (ie, everything about them) to one of Evil's assets... in order to obtain better background material on their tracking data from all of Evil's other assets.

It won't work

[Anonymous Coward]

The 90s called -- they want their failed business model back.

The fundamental problem with this is that it ignores the purpose of advertising. Think about it. To whom would you like to advertise your product:

1. Someone with sufficient money to pay for a service.

2. Someone who prefers to watch advertisements rather than pay for a service.

If you answered #1, then you are in accord with most advertisers. Yet #2 is the people who see ads -- the exact opposite of the kind of people that advertisers want to reach.

So effectively what this does is that it ends advertising support of YouTube as anything more than a curiosity. The advertising mode is the inferior demo mode. The subscription model is the real mode. If Google's lucky, the advertising mode will pay enough to support itself. The subscription mode will have to raise enough money to support the site.

And all that ignores ad-blockers which allow people to skip the ads and still get the premium version.

Re:It won't work

[MitchDev]

Didn't cable TV start as "Pay money for TV with no ads and no censorship!"

We all KNOW how that turned out....

Useful in education

[pjpII]

I teach language classes, and this would be useful since I often use Youtube to show songs, listening exercises, etc. Sometimes I'm forced to use the in-class room computer, and nothing throws off a listening exercise like warming everyone up, getting their mental schemata activated, and then some ridiculous ad immediately preceding a listening. I hope that perhaps my university could get some sort of educational rate, since this is really for my work rather than my personal use.

I'd also love to make the scourge of autoplay go away somehow - suddenly it's everywhere that shows videos.

Re:Useful in education

[Anonymous Coward]

Surely for someone in education, you're more than capable of downloading the desired videos and playing them without the YT issues?

Re:Useful in education

[Anonymous Coward]

Not sure about the scourge, but just in case you didn't already know, you can at least disable it on youtube.

Re:Useful in education

[cavebison]

> some ridiculous ad immediately preceding a listening.

For Firefox or Chrome, use the AdBlock Plus addon.

> I'd also love to make the scourge of autoplay go away somehow

For Chrome, google "stop html5 autoplay" there are a couple of addons for that.

I use Adblock Plus in Firefox and never see ads in YouTube, ever. It's a must-have addon to bring sanity to the Web.

Let's see...

[MitchDev]

Pay to get ad-free videosa (assuming Google gets the content owners to agree to it)

OR

Pay nothing and ignore the ads/use them as guide of who NOT to buy from....

Hmmmmm.... tough choice (NOT)

Re:Let's see...

[cfalcon]

Actually, that's incorrect. Here's your choices:

Pay (or someone else does because they like you) to get ad-free youtube (and probably other perks)...

OR

Use an adblocker like you should be doing today (advertisements ONLY exist to hurt you, so ofc you should have one)

OR

Watch advertisements, have them become part of your subconscious, be more likely to buy things they sell you, be MUCH more likely to respond to your friend mentioning brand X with familiarity (thus rewarding your friend for buying brand X, as they value your presumably useful opinions, even your subconscious ones, and brand X being on your radar is important to them), be MUCH more likely to "join the conversation" about a brand...

Advertisements are based on the idea that you are willing to spare a bunch of behavior and nerves to help their company AND MOST OF ALL THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE CASE / BELIEVE IT ISN'T REAL / THINK IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.

Ads work on you. They work on everyone. They don't pay just so that dumb people will see them, they pay for YOU to see them. You should be using adblock, adblock plus, adblock edge... something... today. Unless you don't value your time or money, and like having corporations make decisions for you (moreso than normal).

Personally, I'll likely grab their Youtube Gold or whatever. I mean, if I'm going to sit and rant about advertisements (and hey, look, I just did!) I may as well support the business models that don't involve shitting in my mouth, right? But as for you, you should be using adblock today, and whether you like their offering in the future, well, future you will decide that. Likely based on advertisements, snerk snerk!

Re:Let's see...

[MitchDev]

Wow, pretty narrow view there. I use advertisements mostly as a "what not to buy/who not to do business with" gauge. Sorry to hear you have sucj a weak mind that you buy whatever they tell you to ;)

I do use ABP, so it's not an actual issue for me with YouTube, but ABP doesn't block all ads everywhere...

Re:Let's see...

[Actually, I do RTFA]

It's not a matter of being weakminded. It's a matter of numerous repeatedly verified weaknesses in the human psyche.

Advertisers feel about "strong minded people who use advertisements to tell you what not to buy" the same way casinos feel about "people who are going to count cards in Vegas". They love em. The number of people who think they are (and thus are more willing to expose themselves) vastly outnumber those who can. Most likely, it means that you get the second most advertised solution. Or the one that amused you the most. Or something. Because you are a human.

What brand of car did you buy? Where did you buy your clothes? What brand are they? Odds are, these are brands everyone has heard of, Because it turns out that "Jack's Handbuilt Cars" would be really hard to get people to buy, even if they were as good as a Ferrari and as cheap as a Kia. Cause who would know to do it.

Re:Let's see...

[MitchDev]

Funny, never seen or heard an ad for "Falls Creek" jeans and slacks on TV or radio, just on the shelf in the store, nice try though

Such a cute little sheep you are,

Re:Let's see...

[Actually, I do RTFA]

Funny, never seen or heard an ad for "Falls Creek" jeans and slacks on TV or radio, just on the shelf in the store, nice try though

Sure you have. They advertise all over - at least - Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Kentucky. I mean, the fact that you don't think they advertise is just an excellent example.

Oh, you don't believe me? Let me guess, you bought them at Meijer store, right?

Such a cute little sheep you are,

I'm someone who knows enough about bias and non-rational decision making that I don't trust myself. How or why that turns into a cliche "sheeple" insult, I have no clue whatsoever.

Re:Let's see...

[Actually, I do RTFA]

No response. So you did buy your jeans at a Meijer?

Re:Let's see...

[MitchDev]

Sometimes, yeah. Now go be a good little consumer and buy what the TV and computer tell you to...

Re: Let's see...

[Actually, I do RTFA]

You don't think it's odd that I could identify where you bought you jeans from the brand name? That apropos of nothing I knew the geographic area you lived in and the common regional chain you shop at? It wasn't random. Falls Creek jeans, which you claim you never saw ads for, has a rielationship with that store for effective and subtle ads. I still don't know why you insist avoiding ads because I know they are effective implies I am a sheep or whatever.

Re: Let's see...

[MitchDev]

Let's see, wealk into store, go to clothing section, see signs saying "SALE!"

You are a fucking moron, not a sheep like I thought at first

Re: Let's see...

[Actually, I do RTFA]

Signs that say "sale" in a store are a form of advertising. All the more so if you're buying the store brand. All the advertising the store does is also advertising the brand. They reinforce that with sale signs, to insure you buy their brand. There would be no reason to be embarrassed about the fact that store ads drove you in, and then you were sold the store brand... except that you think ads don't work on you. I'm just trying to get you to admit that smart people with tons of money to research it, education and experience can influence your behavior (our get you to explain some flaw in what I am saying). Ads work, and being cocky doesn't really change that. Not does being rude to me.

Would Google also stop tracking me?

[Anonymous Coward]

If I pay for YouTube would Google also stop tracking me? I see nothing wrong with offering a paid ad free YouTube. But given the history of Google and ads. I would say eliminating the physical ads in videos is only a part of the ad issue. I do not watch that many YouTube video's so for me I would pass on any kind of costs associated with YouTube. I am fine with ads for what little I access YouTube. Although for me the annoyance of ads is far more apparent on small screens like a smartphone then on my notebook.

Who would?

[AndyKron]

Why would anybody want to pay for shitty, barely watchable video?

Re:Who would?

[olau]

I probably would. I don't have a TV, and when I need to find something to watch with my small kids, it's usually on Youtube, e.g. the renowned Lego Police Chase Part 3. The ads are annoying, especially when you have an angry 3-year old, and we've had some long stretches where adblockers don't work (currently they seem to do).

Likewise, with two small children I don't really have the time and energy to play computer games, but I still sometimes watch a let's play - it's easier to just watch an episode or two and then fall asleep. For me, it's a bit like watching a friend play a game, except I can turn it on and off as I wish. :)

I realize for many people, Youtube is mostly a bunch of stupid cat videos, but there are a lot of different niches in there, some of which have high-quality content of a different sort than what you'd find on commercial TV channels. Provided the fee isn't absurd, I wouldn't mind giving something back to the creators.

Log into Google?

[Bing Tsher E]

To use this, I would have to log into Google and stop blocking Google cookies? And pay money?

There's a reason I have Sylpheed set to connect to pop.gmail.com multiple times a day. No thanks!

Monetized videos

[Toshito]

So, if I monetize my video and all the viewers pay the monthly fee and don't see the ads, will I still receive money?

Re:Monetized videos

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, google loves sharing their revenue.

It won't JUST be ads- "youtube gold?"

[cfalcon]

Rest assured, google knows that you, I, and everyone else who is slashdotting use adblockers. They know we only see youtube ads at ludicrously rare situations.

So:
A premium mode that offers things they can't normally (specifically, anything that involves per-viewer resources that would open them up to DOS style attacks if they allowed it for just any account) is definitely something I'm interested in. And I'm sure free ads would be part of that.

I bet it's "youtube gold"- something you can gift to commenters who don't call you racist names ("...so, none of them?"), turns off advertising, etc. (based on "reddit gold", a model that reddit uses- google would have their own take on it, of course)

Ask yourselves these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can adblock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

Re: Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Fuck off, spammer.

Re:Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Karmashock]

We've had this discussion already APK. My adblock actually works quite well. Though if matters to you, I do add sites to my hosts file every now and then. I also use the spypot immunization list.

Your program is likely pretty cool but it is sort of a hassle to install. That is why I haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

Anyway... regards :D

Re: Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Is that a std. cry of defeat vs. apk from another advertiser? Yes. Hahahahahaha, you FAIL, wuss.

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Sorry Google ... F.A.I.L.

[stevez67]

I can't think of a single thing I see on youtube that I would pay even a penny for.

Re:Sorry Google ... F.A.I.L.

[greenfruitsalad]

i once watched a guide on how to change the screen on my phone. i remember thinking i'd actually pay for that. but that was it. it was about 5 years ago. every other video i could happily live without.

what makes youtube so ubuquitous is that it's a kind of pastebin for videos. you don't need to care about storage cost even if only 2 people view your video in a year and you don't need to care about bandwidth if 10000 people decide to watch your video at the same time. youtube is just there and ready for any kind of load.

advertisments?

[Anonymous Coward]

As in commercials? I never noticed any commercials on Youtube before.

Not everyone's an ass

[Phil Urich]

Hey, not everyone is. I'm dismayed by the negativity in the comments here, 'cause personally I read this and thought "oh, finally, I can put my money where my mouth is!"

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

There are ads on YouTube?

[x_t0ken_407]

I never noticed...uBlock must do it's job VERY well.

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

Adblock's crippled by default intentionally

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: It's "Almost all ads blocked" & installing my program's VERY easy to do (portable) + hosts run on everything pretty much (with a std. BSD derived IP stack).

* You must have had a HELL of a time figuring out how to install your operating system + programs then, eh? Not... I know better. So does anyone reading here.

(It's pretty cool, but the resulting file it produces, HOSTS, is the coolest thing going vs. browser addons - doing more than MASSIVE COMBINATIONS OF THEM, from a single native file you already have, that my program populates).

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock doesn't do a FRACTION of what hosts can, from a SINGLE file, & adblock uses up resources like MAD too vs. hosts (operating not only more efficiently but also from a faster higher cpu privileged level of operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode browsers being SLOWED DOWN MORE with more messagepassing in addons in usermode)... apk

UBlock = INFERIOR vs. custom hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability (same w/ "UBlock" too):

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

What ads?

[Anonymous Coward]

All you need to do is prevent a few domains from resolving and no more youtube ads.

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" or ABP do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Re:AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Stan92057]

Please explain how and what is required for the upkeep of the Host file compared to adblocker..say ad blocker edge.

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked"/ABP/Edge/UBlock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

...but without ads, is Google still 'evil'?

[Rob Y.]

If this were to happen, would Google still track your activities at the various sites using AdSense? And if they did - but didn't sell ads based on it, would the "Google is evil" crowd finally accept that Google doesn't "sell your info" to advertisers?

Once they stop showing you ads, the only reason to track your activity is the original one - to provide you with 'better' (i.e. customized) search results at the main Google site. Those better results also have a revenue generating function for Google - to the extent that some of those results will be search ads, for which they charge the advertiser when you click on them. I suppose they could also let you buy your way out of seeing those too - though I find them useful when I'm actually searching for something commercial...

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can UBlock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" & ABMinus do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked"/ABMinus/ABEdge do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Let me see if I got this right

[tehlinux]

So they want me to be logged in whenever I view a youtube video AND they want me to pay them for it?! Yeah right, google!

I use apk's program. It's easy to update hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

Updates are simple 1 button import, dedupe and sort, and build. It works on ads unlike almost all ads blocked which was paid off to not work by default and the same with AdBlock minus (since it's no plus by any means).

Lots of people here

[Anonymous Coward]

Are webmasters + advertisers (or their sockpuppets) not telling you adblock's crippled by default having sold out to Google http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... and other advertisers. Same with AdBlockMinus http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... so consider the sources you're talking to. They're not honest ones.

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out' vs. hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

Scroogle!

[Anonymous Coward]

I would rather learn to sit with my eyes closed & learn to meditate than pay for youtube, netflix, hulu, prime, etc on top of $75 for fios.

Is it ethical for ads to do these things to us?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Infect us via malicious script, steal our bandwidth WE PAY FOR monthly, & to track + SPAM us too (+ more)?

APK

P.S.=> You answer that first - my answer will be THAT above, & the fact those do-nothing advertiser leeches (who for God only knows why end up running companies & are paid FAR out of line with what they're worth - YES, I do know that, I've worked on many a companies' payroll systems + accounting ledgers) are NOT going to do that, since once a page enters my routers IT IS MINE to control as I SEE FIT (not advertisers doing all of the above & more that's FAR worse)... apk

AdBlock & variants = Inferior vs. hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

YouTube just couldn't resist...

[iq145]

Those dirty rotten filthy stinking pricks have gotten greedy. They saw an opportunity, and they just couldn't control themselves. It started when they just had to have COMMERCIALS in their videos!

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

AlmostAllAdsBlockedMinus = Inferior+'Souled-Out'

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

AlmostAllAdsBlockedMinus=Inferior+'Souled-Out'

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

ABMinus/AdBlock/ABEdge = Inferior vs. hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AlmostAllAdsBlockedMinus = Inferior vs hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AlmostAllAdsBlocked = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

Ask yourself these questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Can "Almost ALL AdsBlocked" do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

APK

P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

For the BEST hosts file?

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

... apk

I asked AdBlock's creator those questions... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

APK

P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

AdBlockEdge = Inferior vs. Hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

Can't block hosts (unlike addons)...apk

[Anonymous Coward]

They dump addons you use w/ native browser methods: See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more w/ less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AlmostAllAdsBlockedMinus = Inferior vs. hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AlmostAllAdsBlocked = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

ABP/AdBlock/ABEdge/UBlock = Inferior vs. hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

(They can downmod this all day, that's the best they've got)

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AlmostAllAdsBlockedMinus = Inferior vs. hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend" - they can downmod this all day, it's the best they've got...

...apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend" - they can mod this down all day, it's all they've got...

...apk

Why use 2 things? 1 does the job

[Anonymous Coward]

Doing more + more efficiently vs. addons: APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more w/ less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

ABP/AdBlock/ABE/UBlock = Inferior vs. hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

...apk

AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

http://start64.com/index.php?o...

FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

---

A.) Hosts do more than:

1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

D.) Hosts files yield more:

1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

---

* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

(Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))

APK

P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend" - they can downmod this all day, that's all they've got...

...apk