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Anti-TPP Website Being Blacklisted
so.dan writes: The CTO of Fight for the Future — the non-profit activism group behind Battle for the Net, Blackout Congress, and Stop Fast Track — Jeff Lyon, is seeking advice regarding a problem with facing the website they created — stopfasttrack.com — to fight the secret Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal.
The site been blacklisted by Twitter, Facebook, and major email providers as malicious/spam. Over the last week, nobody has been able to post the website on social networks, or send any emails with their URL. Lyon has posted a summary of the relevant details on Reddit in the hope of obtaining useful feedback regarding what the cause might be. However, none of the answers there right now seem particularly useful, so I'm hoping the Slashdot community can help him out by posting here.
Lyon indicates that the blackout has occurred at a particularly crucial point in the campaign to kill the TPP, as most members of the House of Representatives would likely vote against it were it brought to a vote now, and as pro-TPP interests have started to escalate their lobbying efforts on the House to counteract what would otherwise be a no vote.
The site been blacklisted by Twitter, Facebook, and major email providers as malicious/spam. Over the last week, nobody has been able to post the website on social networks, or send any emails with their URL. Lyon has posted a summary of the relevant details on Reddit in the hope of obtaining useful feedback regarding what the cause might be. However, none of the answers there right now seem particularly useful, so I'm hoping the Slashdot community can help him out by posting here.
Lyon indicates that the blackout has occurred at a particularly crucial point in the campaign to kill the TPP, as most members of the House of Representatives would likely vote against it were it brought to a vote now, and as pro-TPP interests have started to escalate their lobbying efforts on the House to counteract what would otherwise be a no vote.
Is not guaranteed from private organizations.
Censorship in the US doesn't have to be about the first amendment as long as you can get Facebook, Twitter and Google to agree.
So, he's using a domain without an SPF record (allowing it to be spoofed), and Cloudflare hosting which is notorius for spam and botnets. The same domain name with .RU extension is already associated with generating spam.
Furthermore, his homepage is chocka-block with links, that anyone could mistake for a link-farm / spam page.
There's no grand conspiracy here, just a webmaster who's not terribly savvy and some overzealous AI heuristics at Spamhaus, FB and Twitter playing it safe.
Nothing more to see here, please move along.
Hanlon's Razor.
The guy is utterly clueless.
One to my congressman and one to each senator.
Don't really know what else to do.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
From the comments below the article....
1) Site was on spamhaus's blacklist.
2) Someone with more exerience than the poster suggested he add SPF records.
3) Poster added SPF records and thanked the other person.
4) Site is no longer on spamhaus's blacklist.
I got tired of reading comments before I figured out if this resolved all the poster's complaints.
Does Facebook and Twitter and such scan for links to domains blocked by spam lists?
i just posted a link on facebook no problem.
Sacred cows make the best burgers.
All the opponents of TPP listed on that web site are left wing. Usually, such groups applaud statist economic and personal intervention, especially with such things as the TPP which is rumored to include some very strict AGW rules.
Facebook is not the internet. Facebook is its own cryptic walled garden of bullshit that you've adopted as your medium of self expression. It's not public property.
I remember NAFTA was supposed to save American jobs and not long after that was signed manufacturing began disappearing out of the US.
Manufacturing started disappearing from the U.S. decades before NAFTA was signed.
#DeleteChrome
1. Were you in fact spamming? If you injected your message lots of places where it was off topic, then you were spamming and earned your ban. If you failed to follow email best practices (this means *confirmed* opt-in prior to receiving any list content) then you were spamming and earned your ban.
2. Has the web site been hacked with malicious code? Assume yes until you can get a clean bill of health by bona fide security expert.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
Apart from the pretty colors, it's pretty badly designed. There's only the one video explaining why it's bad, no text, no in-depth analysis, no outside opinions, no nothing. There isn't even (that I could find) a link to the text of the TPP. This might be a seriously important cause, but the website's not making a very good case against it.
Anyone know and want to elaborate on what this TPP is?
I just posted the URL stopfasttrack.com to my Facebook timeline. I was immediately going to cancel my Facebook account (for the second time) but thought I'd check first.
True, but that accelerated after NAFTA. In part because the promised protections used to get the votes to pass NAFTA were not delivered on. That history of lying to get profitable deals passed is why it's important not to agree to TPP, etc., without knowing what's actually in it, and not to believe promises about the future.
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I've posted it on Facebook and asked everyone to try it out and they all say it's all good.
Here at the Nigerian Research Agency (NRA) we are also developing TPP:
Tele-Portation Protocol (TPP).
Your contributions will be refunded in full. Send us you cash or wire transfer and we will Teleport it back to you in only few days after we receive it; the time required to incorporate the space-time continuum into the protocol.
Also please inform the smart-ass Slashdot editor that placing an acronym (TPP) in the hope that the readers will click to find out is not much different than the cheap dim-witted Internet advertising methods.
Best Regards
Your friends from the "Nigerian Scammers Association" (NSA)
are full of censorship and oppression. Your country is equally bad, just in a different way.
Have gnu, will travel.
Just tested it on G+ - not seeing any issue there
(cue people saying no-one uses G+ because none of THEIR 3 friends uses it)
I would say quite a few of them do. They invade slashdot quite heavily any time there is an election or some protest we are supposed to be behind because it's the social justice warrior thing to do or something. Some have accounts and some post anon.
Don't forget that where TPP covers the Pacific there's also TTIP for the Atlantic and because this shit always comes in threes there's TISA as well,
FTFA
I shared the site on my timeline of FB. Works fine.
If you use those "social" media sites you're giving them the power to screw us over, stop using them.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
I was just able to post a link to https://www.stopfasttrack.com/... public, it also allowed me to save the link. So...very weird.
Armed rebellion? You are a loon. American culture is nowhere near anything like that.
The reason your vote doesn't matter is very simple: you aren't casting it. I'm not talking about showing up and checking the box, plenty of people do that, and then feel smug about how they are being good Americans and making a difference. That isn't voting. That is the dog-and-pony show that we use to distract attention from actual voting.
How do you vote? It is easy as pie. Take your cold hard cash, and use it to lobby (either donate to a lobby, or start one of your own). Real money is real economic power, and you can use yours to effect positive political change.
American civilians resent this. This is because they don't care enough to make real sacrifices. Checking a box costs them a few hours out of their day once ever few years. That is nothing. They will happily do that, and blather on and on about how that is how the world should work. But they are wrong.
We attain power by being useful to others. That is what earns us the right to exercise that power over others. But exercising it is expending it. If that is too much for you to take, then keep on spouting nonsense about the revolution that will never come, while those of us who are in the know jump in the game as it is actually played.
Interesting link with some info about that: http://www.independent.co.uk/v...
(It's about TTIP, which seems the same as TPP but aimed at the EU). The article claims NAFTA caused the loss of around 1 million US jobs, as opposed to the promised gain of hundreds of thousands of extra jobs.
Therefore, by the (faulty) logic you're using, you're just a cow with a keyboard - osu-neko (2604)
there is a very simple answer, and I don't give a fuck what you say, this is completely legal: spoil your ballot by marking a single line through ALL the boxes and writing in the margin: "NONE OF THE ABOVE".
A "NONE OF THE ABOVE" is not a protest vote, it's a vote for regime change.
Tell me, what changed after the last election? Anything? Was anything brought in by the incumbent immediately reversed by the incoming as they took over? Anything at all? Please, tell me, just ONE SINGLE FUCKING THING?
I'll wait.
Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
Or is it slander? I'm not a lawyer.
In essence, these sites claim that your site is maleware/spam. This seems to me to be an actionable claim.
Furthermore, winning such a court case would also result in companies not automatically listening to those falsly reporting, or placing a proper appeal process into their blocking procedures.
Shachar
Sites gets banned for legitimate reasons all the time Thousands of other legitimate business sites go through this all the time. This site cries like baby and throws poo at internet community to get attention drawn to its "cause" much less the real problem for the ban. Slashdot community bites down hard on free speech bullshit... entertains crap... lame.
The CTO of Fight for the Future — the non-profit activism group
A registered non-profit?? Not that it (transparency) matters - a good cause is sufficient, and the more groups targeting that cause the easier the battle.
behind Battle for the Net, Blackout Congress, and Stop Fast Track — Jeff Lyon
That'd be the Chief Technologist - FIGJAM self-certified Jeffery S. Lyon
The site been blacklisted by Twitter, Facebook, and major email providers as malicious/spam.
Bullshit Not blacklisted . A dig through the history shows that some of the email accounts have been blacklisted in the past - for spamming. No conspiracy, just piss poor security, hunger for publicity, bad manners, and general IT ignorance. (e.g. complain about Ffffacebook and Google but overlook what Yahoo does with non-SPF signed email)
Over the last week, nobody has been able to post the website on social networks, or send any emails with their URL.
Bullshit All posts of links to the site published in the past week
Thanks Jeff. For nothing. Failure to check your facts doesn't help the campaign - the proponents of TPP don't have to block you - your incompetence and dishonesty does the job for them. Not that I'm accusing you of diluting the EFF campaign, or cashing in on it...
Good article. Thanks for posting!
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