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Comcast Launches Streaming Service and Unveils Pricing For 2G Fiber

An anonymous reader writes: Comcast has announced the release of its Gigabit Pro service which offers speeds up to 2 gigabits per second. The service is $300 a month (agree to a two year contract and get the early promotional price of $159 per month) with a $500 installation and activation fee. The new service is only available in the Jacksonville, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach Florida area. This announcement comes on the heels of the $15-per-month "Comcast Stream" launch. The live TV and streaming video service does not require a cable TV subscription, but live TV channels can only be watched on customer's home internet connections.

107 comments

  1. Decisions, decisons by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

    If my choices were Comcast or rabbit ears on top of the TV and dial-up, I'd go for the rabbit ears.

    1. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do rabbit ears provide 2 gbps internet? Why are they even an option here?

    2. Re:Decisions, decisons by Aryden · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points +1

    3. Re:Decisions, decisons by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I wonder what the uplink speed is on that. Likely only 10Mbit.

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    4. Re:Decisions, decisons by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sorry, I meant to say dial-up with a Hayesmodem 1200 and a terminal emulator, manually doing the AT DT stuff from memory.

    5. Re:Decisions, decisons by Aryden · · Score: 1

      Then again, compared to the Charter bullshit I now have..... I'd rather have the Comcast from before I moved.

    6. Re:Decisions, decisons by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      Heh. Already got a "-1 Flamebait" for taunting the huge Slashdot pro-Comcast crowd... I expect lots of heated responses from both of them any second now.

    7. Re:Decisions, decisons by trazom28 · · Score: 2

      Hmm.. internal or external? And would you be transferring those files with Xmodem? :)

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    8. Re:Decisions, decisons by ibpooks · · Score: 1

      Yes, but most people wouldn't be satisfied with the range.

    9. Re:Decisions, decisons by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      From TFA:

      the symmetrical two gigabit service

    10. Re:Decisions, decisons by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      External (still have one, not sure why) and Kermit.

    11. Re:Decisions, decisons by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Even more importantly... what kind of speed can you expect once you reach the router in the local office?

      That is, are they hooking folks up to fiber, adn then feeding that fiber with a few T1s or are they going to have enough bandwidth for a few hundred people (never mind a few thousand) to get what they are paying for when the content isn't coming from the local comcast office/POP ?

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    12. Re:Decisions, decisons by trazom28 · · Score: 1

      Good call on Kermit!

      http://www.columbia.edu/kermit...

      Used to use that to get into my *nix shell accounts. Man do I miss those days..

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    13. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. It will be low, but speeds lower than 20:1 dont really work (yeah, i've just noticed my mistake, "working" is probably an extra option...).

    14. Re:Decisions, decisons by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's why I'm posting at -1 by default and you're ... oh wait ... just a jerk.

    15. Re:Decisions, decisons by suutar · · Score: 1

      the router in the local office can probably handle it. The edge router is where they'll skimp on ports.

      I wonder what taxes and fees will add. 159 for internet plus 15 for streaming TV is not that far from my current cable bill...

    16. Re:Decisions, decisons by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      This is a little dated so things might have changed but there is evidence their current customers can't get what they're paying for.

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    17. Re:Decisions, decisons by suutar · · Score: 1

      never mind, they won't have the channels I want.

    18. Re:Decisions, decisons by chipschap · · Score: 1

      From TFA:

      the symmetrical two gigabit service

      Don't omit the all-important words, UP TO. Oh, you're only getting 10 megabits today? Well, we said UP TO two gigabits didn't we? I remember when I was sadly on Comcast some years back and they offered UP TO 3 megabits, I'd get 1 megabit on a good day. That's a maximum, not a guarantee, they'd flatly say. And they were the only game in that small town so it was take it or leave it.

    19. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the insight.

    20. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it probably will be a 2gbit connection. The problem is - 2gbit... TO WHO....

      Many servers out on the internet would not be able to send you data that fast. Your hard drive does not run that fast unless you have a bleeding edge top of the line machine.

    21. Re:Decisions, decisons by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      I assume that's an 8-bit Kermit you pointed us to, but it doesn't have TeleVideo 910 emulation :-(

    22. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this is the first (non-negative) positive Flamebait I've seen. :) I agree. Digital TV (air) is not too bad in my area and Comcast can go pound sand!

    23. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he's right, you're a fuckwit. There's almost nothing fuckwittier than a fuckwit who posts, then returns to either A) complain that s/he is getting "downvoted" and/or B) Predict that s/he has started an epic flamewar and expects the "downvoting" to begin soon.

      In short, whether you are A or B, and frankly it sounds like you are BOTH, you're a fuckwit.

    24. Re:Decisions, decisons by arth1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Do rabbit ears provide 2 gbps internet? Why are they even an option here?

      Does Comcast provide 2 Gbps internet? Note the words "up to" - they are very significant, and changes the meaning from "you will get 2 Gbps" to "you may or may not get 2 Gbps, but never more".
      30 Mbps satisfies "up to 2 Gbps".

    25. Re:Decisions, decisons by powerlord · · Score: 1

      Oddly I had the same decision to make with Time Warner Cable in my area and came to a similar decision.

      Internet - DSL (definitely slower speeds than TWC claims they provide)
      TV - Rabbit ears (OTA antenna for whats available), supplemented by Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, still comes out cheaper than what TWC was charging, and gives me more content than I can consume.

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    26. Re:Decisions, decisons by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think I got early leakage of this when I talked to local reps the other day. Something that sounds in retrospect a lot like it, anyway.

      From what I've seen so far, the price quoted is indeed the price.

      The catch is that this kind of service isn't delivered to residential areas. You have to be in a business district where their infrastructure can handle it.

    27. Re:Decisions, decisons by chipschap · · Score: 1

      You don't (I wouldn't think as a typical case) do 2 GB from a single point to a single point. 2 GB gives you multiple fast connections to multiple external points for an office full of users who all share that bandwidth.

    28. Re:Decisions, decisons by mattventura · · Score: 1

      For that matter, how do I physically even get 2gbps? Does the modem they provide have a 10GbE port? This is actually quite ingenious of Comcast, selling people a 2gbit connection knowing full well nobody will actually be able to use it.

    29. Re:Decisions, decisons by cdsparrow · · Score: 0

      Willing to bet it's the marketing people instead of the network people who named the "2gig Symetrical" plan. 1gig up + 1gig down = 2gig...

    30. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jmodem, duh. Why use a slower ancient protocol?

    31. Re:Decisions, decisons by Drakonblayde · · Score: 1

      No, it's actually 2 gigs each way, so you need a 10gig interface to be able to hook up to it, which means you need 10 gig network gear if you want to use it on more than one box.

      This is, obviously, not intended for the average home user, this is more intended for an office or business setting.

    32. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a fuckwit for wasting your time arguing with someone about whether or not they're a fuckwit.

    33. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My up to 12Mbps Comcast connection is currently getting 16Mbps down from Seattle.

    34. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just make sure your serial card has a 16550 UART. Most of them have the shitty 16450, which is why I prefer internal modems.

    35. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pfft, I'll stick with HS/Link. Then I can upload and download at full speed simultaneously while chatting with the SysOp.

    36. Re:Decisions, decisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do rabbit ears provide 2 gbps internet? Why are they even an option here?

      You are missing the point

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-05/america-s-most-loved-and-most-hated-companies
      http://www.businessinsider.com/the-18-worst-companies-in-america-2010-11?op=1
      http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/19/6004131/comcast-the-worst-company-in-america

    37. Re:Decisions, decisons by KGIII · · Score: 1

      This is recursive and should stop before someone pokes an eye out. ;)

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    38. Re:Decisions, decisons by KGIII · · Score: 1

      The router never changes the stream from analog to digital. MOdulate and DEModulate. Thus it is not a MODEM.

      *whistles innocently*

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  2. Notice in markets with no comp yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only 3 times more monthly, a contract and a 500$ installation fee. No thanks.
    I'll wait for Google.

  3. Oblig Armageddon quotes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast components, Time Warner Components, all runs on Verizon fiber!

  4. No live sports? No thanks. by BenJeremy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Still no practical choices to get a full plate of live sports without being tied to cable... Football, Baseball, Hockey, Basketball - college and pro levels, that shouldn't be too much to ask for, but either you spend $100+ for cable, or run XBMC/Kodi with SportsDevil to stream it.

    Geez, idiots, just give me an option to pay $10~25/mo for live locals and sports stations and you'll get my money.

    Unfortunately, you are only interested in short-sheeting the consumer with fewer offerings than NetFlix or Sling at a higher price with more limitations.

    Is a sub-80 IQ a requirement for an MBA and a job as a media company executive these days?

    1. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by asylumx · · Score: 2

      Seriously. You know it's bad when even the sports league's network blacks out their own broadcasts so only the cable company can carry it.

    2. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by wyattstorch516 · · Score: 1

      Don't the schools in your area have athletic teams? Most of their events will probably be free so I don't know what you are complaining about.

    3. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by BenJeremy · · Score: 1

      Downvoted as a troll? Is Slashdot giving Comcast execs mod points now?

    4. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No live sports or much of anything else that I can see. The blurb says network+HBO+on-demand. Since I have a HDHomerun and Netflix that is a subscription to HBO-Now but with Comcast as the go-between for customer service?!? Umm, NO THANKS.

    5. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Might have to do with this:

      Is a sub-80 IQ a requirement for an MBA and a job as a media company executive these days?

    6. Re: No live sports? No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. Trolls these days. "You don't want to see a subset of what you want to see?"

    7. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Geez, idiots, just give me an option to pay $10~25/mo for live locals and sports stations and you'll get my money.

      Yup, totally this. I'd gladly pay a monthly fee to watch my local baseball team over the internet, but that option does not exist as far as MLB is concerned. I have to resort to jailbreaking my iPad, installing Protect My Privacy, purchasing MLB.TV Premium and then telling MLB's AtBat app that I'm located somewhere other than North America.

      (Note to anyone else interested... version 8.2 of AtBat seems vulnerable again to location spoofing. I don't guarantee the newer version they released a few days ago will continue to work.)

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    8. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by SrLnclt · · Score: 1

      Sports is what kept me on satellite for years. About 2 months ago I said enough - added Netflix, a Roku3, and a HD antenna. Borrowing a login of a friend so I can stream some of my sports. There is enough other stuff to keep me busy if I can't get a specific game.

      The cable companies know live sports is a game changer, so they likely work it into the contracts that the networks have to go through them, and any streaming needs to include a cable/satellite login. One day (hopefully soon) some of the leagues/networks/conferences will see that some percentage of US households don't have paid TV programming, and that they have a new target audience ready to directly pay them lots of money to get streaming live sports. What percentage of households need to cut the cord for this to be lucrative enough to outweigh the potential flood of more people cutting the cord when this happens? That is the magic question. HBO recently saw the light... hopefully others do soon.

    9. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by BenJeremy · · Score: 1

      I haven't observed a lot of intelligence from those executives.

      Corporate executives are supposed to make policy decisions and approve high-profile actions. In short, they had the ultimate review of this, which anybody with an above-average IQ would easily see it's a bad plan, on numerous fronts, whether it is from the consumers' perspective (bad deal, bad price, bad service) or company perspective (destined to be a failure)

      Yes, I seriously question the intelligence of executives who keep approving this sort of nonsense. I might also be a bit bitter that these people make decisions that affect so many of us, impacting us regularly in a negative manner. Please note, I'm not asking for freebies here... give me a service that provides common sense features and I'll gladly pay. Why is it so hard for corporations to offer consumers quality service and goods for the price being demanded?

    10. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      Still no practical choices to get a full plate of live sports without being tied to cable..

      Or .... you could grow up.

    11. Re:No live sports? No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geez, idiots, just give me an option to pay $10~25/mo for live locals and sports stations and you'll get my money.

      The $10-$25 is LESS than what the cable company pays the sports providers. Sports is expensive. It is the most expensive category, and is actually subsidized by the bulk cable packages. If you only watch sports, and would actually pay the freight for a sports only package which would be in the $65 range, then the rest of the 400 channels really only cost you another $20-$30 a month. So you really would not get much of a discount.

  5. So rather than providing service to everyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in their monopoly areas, they're instead investing money to make connections faster for the people that are already lucky enough to get service? They should provide service to everyone before spending money to make incremental improvements. I've lived in Seattle all of my life, but I have never lived anywhere with cable TV or Internet available.

  6. thanks, but no thanks by nimbius · · Score: 4, Funny
    If anyone other than the toilet brush of the internet were to offer me this, id give it a go. However, it would be irresponsible of me to assume Comcast has any intention of offering a useful product that adheres to the advertised rate and doesnt screw up the billing. Comcast has over 20 years of proven malicious,reckless, and wanton disregard for their customers.

    The service is $300 a month

    You heard it folks, step right up for $300 a month in abusive customer service, random SRVFAIL hijacking, complete prohibition on running "a server" of any kind, advertisement injection, the resale of your personal information, and best of all an ardent refusal to cancel this service.

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  7. Live TV streaming? by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 1

    How does the live TV streaming work? Is there some sort of a browser plugin they make you use to stream local channel 2, 3, 4, etc?

  8. What's the cap? by Ultra64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let me guess, 2Gbps with a 250GB cap.

    1. Re:What's the cap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be horrible. I live in a Comcast monopoly area, but they don't offer service to my side of the street. I have 160 kbps DSL, and even I transfer more than that much per month. I can download 386 GB a month if I keep my connection running 24/7. According to my router, I've received just over 800 Gbytes in the 75 days the router has been up so I'm averaging about 320 GB per month. So, that "2 GB" (in quotes) connection would be slower on average than my absolutely crappy connection here in Seattle. No thank you Comcast.

    2. Re:What's the cap? by Ingenium13 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the south east is the only region that actually implements the cap. It's been "suspended" ever since they announced it, at least in California

    3. Re:What's the cap? by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Oooo, they're awfully generous with that cap. You'd actually be able to use the full capabilities of your monthly service for a whole 16 2/3 minutes! That's too much. Surely the actual cap would be much less than that.

    4. Re:What's the cap? by SirMasterboy · · Score: 3, Informative

      From the announcement: "This tier is exempt from usage caps/usage-based billing, but actual speeds vary and are not guaranteed."

    5. Re:What's the cap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have 160 kbps DSL...Seattle

      And, you're one of the lucky ones. I still have dial-up at home. I live in a poor area so Comcast doesn't offer service, and the phone wiring between the CO and me is so old that we can't get DSL on our block. I'd kill for 160 kbps access.

    6. Re:What's the cap? by raxtich · · Score: 1

      You should look into 4G Internet service.

    7. Re:What's the cap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in Central Florida and my Comcast account says that the cap is suspended as well. I have downloaded over 1TB in a month without any letters.

    8. Re:What's the cap? by nanoflower · · Score: 1

      In Atlanta the cap has not been suspended. Went over it a few months ago and first got the call warning me that I was approaching the call and then got the notice that this was my first time going over the cap. Do it 2 more times and they will start charging me.

    9. Re:What's the cap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate to break it to you, but California is on the west coast.

    10. Re:What's the cap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not in northern california

  9. "Up to" by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

    So they're promising a cap on their maximum quality of service, but not on their minimum quality of service?

    1. Re:"Up to" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Residential services are the "saturated" portion of their over-subscribed network. Business customers get guaranteed QoS agreements, but it costs more. A lot more.

    2. Re:"Up to" by Tyrannosaur · · Score: 1

      So they're promising a cap on their maximum quality of service, but not on their minimum quality of service?

      Yes

  10. Overpriced. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    In many places you can get 2G fiber for very close to the same costs. only drawback is you have to buy your own endpoint gear as they will not rent it to you.

    Plus if you get your fiver from a good provider you wont have your data going through the Comcast lag adding networks.

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    1. Re:Overpriced. by drooling-dog · · Score: 3, Informative

      only drawback is you have to buy your own endpoint gear as they will not rent it to you.

      That's a benefit, not a drawback. You'll come out ahead money-wise inside a year, and your router will be under your control.

  11. What kind of router do they use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would have to have multiple 1G Ethernet ports to take advantage of the 2G speed. Even my new Comcast modem only supports a single 100 Mbps Ethernet connection.

  12. My wife didn't understand my hatred of cable modem by frog_strat · · Score: 1

    Then we moved and were too far from the CO for DSL, so we had to get Cox Cable modem. Now she understands. They recently upgraded me from 5 to 15 mBit. I would gladly give the extra 10 back to get a connection that doesn't periodically drop.

  13. 2G or 4G? by darkain · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wanted to make a 2G (bandwidth) vs 4G (cell network) joke, but decided to pop up with some actual useful information instead.

    Currently Comcast has this in their contract:

    "For upgrading from Performance to Blast!®, ranges based on area, from $10.00 to $12.00 more per month (subject to change)"

    This is an additional service charge ON TOP OF the higher price already charged to get faster internet service. That's right, they're advertising one price, and then tacking on additional fees for that bandwidth. Just for having faster bandwidth, you're forced to pay an additional $10+ on top of the already higher rate.

    So, what is the premium "Blast" or "2G" fees going to be with this new service? Sure, the base rate is already an outrageous $300... but this is Comcast, who is actively tacking on hidden fees to customers outside of the usual regulatory fees.

    1. Re:2G or 4G? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Continuing this to a logical conclusion:

      Only a small portion of the population will be able to afford it. Within a few years, Comcast will again be able to say "We offered a higher speed option, but customer demand just wasn't high enough to support expansion"

      Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There must be a ~5 year turnover for the C-men at Comcast.

    2. Re:2G or 4G? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a bonus, they use those tier names like "Blast" to obscure the fact that the same service name actually means different speeds in different locations... and it's not at all obvious on their website that any speed other than the faster one exists.

  14. Unamused by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Only in America can we roll out a service so very few will pay for* while, at the same time, big chunks of the nation are still unable to get any sort of broadband connection at all. :| The ISP's know where the money is so that's where they concentrate their deployments. At least make SOME effort to get bare minimum broadband access to everyone before you start selling the network equivalent of a sports car.

    I would love to see Broadband Internet treated like the POTS lines of yester-year as part of the Title II requirements. Quit letting the monopolies cherry-pick their regions for deployment and force them to deploy into the areas where Capitalism loathes to go. ( In your best Yale or Harvard voice " You know. . . where the poor people live." ) Hey Verizon, hows that FIOS roll out coming along that you promised everyone ?

    Threaten to go all 1984 on their ass ( referring to Divestiture here ) or nullify all non-compete laws when it comes to Metro Areas rolling out their own networks.
    It's amusing just how fast big ISP's can deploy high speed networks when a Metro area says " Screw it " and starts deploying their own.

    The ONLY way I'm ever going to see true competition or even competitive pricing is if I'm lucky enough to live in an area where Google has plans to deploy their infrastructure. That seems to be the only motivating factor if you're a large ISP these days. OMGGOOGLEISGONNASTEALOURBUSINESSCUSTOMERS DO SOMETHING !!!!!

    So the best thing we get out of Comcast is to roll out a service that's completely ridiculous in price. I wonder if you get a discount if you allow them to spy on your traffic like AT&T does ? ( Yes, I'm sure they all do it, but AT&T is the only one admitting to it and offering a discount for the privilege )

    *Because:

    a) It's Comcastic and ( one of, if not THE worst ranked ISP in the US )
    b) It's $300 / month and ( hahahahahahahahah . . . . no. See A above )
    c) No way in hell it will be unlimited usage ( regardless of their claims ) without some data cap or throttling mechanism

    1. Re:Unamused by imidan · · Score: 1

      Look at it this way: if Comcast creates a 2gb service that's so expensive that nobody uses it, they get a little more ammo in the can for their claims that nobody wants or needs gb-scale internet access. When we complain about their crappy, slow service, they'll just point at the lack of adoption of this service and say, 'see? Nobody wants it!'

  15. Concast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wasn't it Concast who made Netflix pay for peering? I thought so. If bandwidth were such a premium, why would Concast possibly waste the extra bandwidth on streaming? Oops! (smacks forehead) All is well now that Concast has streaming of their own. I will gladly go back to digital air before I pay another dime for your shit TV services. Overpriced and 150+ channels of shit!

    Too bad you have to be a TV subscriber to get their shit. Too bad I no longer have Concast.

    Fuck you Concast!

    1. Re:Concast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, does Comcast pay you for your efforts to tarnish the image of its critics by associating them with faux-subversive words of the "M$" variety, or do you just love them so much that you do it for free? I'm guessing it's the latter.

  16. Sounds reasonable by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 4, Informative

    For only about as much as you'd pay in a car payment, you can have the speed other countries get for about the price of a cup of coffee a day.

    1. Re: Sounds reasonable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At Starbucks pricing... Whip cream is extra!

  17. "Actual speeds vary and are not guaranteed" by SecurityGuy · · Score: 3, Informative

    You lost me right there, guys. For $300/mo, you darn well better guarantee some particular minimum level of service. If you can't, or won't, there's zero chance I'm signing up for three years of somewhere between zero and 2Gbps.

    1. Re:"Actual speeds vary and are not guaranteed" by Mouldy · · Score: 1

      With the term 'up to'; they can legally provide below than 0 speeds too.

      The download speed can be so slow, it actually goes backwards; that's how much 'up to' sucks.

  18. $20 to rent the hardware + your own costs for 10GB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $20 to rent the hardware + your own costs for 10GB hardware (if there hardware only has 1 port) or a switch that can do bonding + your own router with 10GB nics and or dual bonded gig-e on both sides.

  19. Customer Support is clueless about this by dmitrygr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tried to ask if it is available in my Area.
    Here's the REAL transcript:

    Live Chat
    user dmitry has entered room
    analyst Elvin has entered room

    Elvin
    1:42PM

    Hello dmitry_, Thank you for contacting Comcast Live Chat Support. My name is Elvin. Please give me one moment to review your information.

    Elvin
    1:42PM

    Hi! Welcome to Comcast High Speed Internet Technical Support (Residential Accounts). You can call me Elvin, I'll be happy to get your concern addressed today.

    dmitry
    1:42PM

    My Issue: Is Gigabit Pro available in Rex Manor Area of Mountain View, CA?

    Elvin
    1:42PM

    I understand that you have question with Xfinity services. I am a costumer also, so I understand ho wimportant this is. I will assist you today.

    Elvin
    1:43PM

    May I know your exact concern, please?

    dmitry
    1:43PM

    Is Gigabit Pro available in Rex Manor Area of Mountain View, CA?

    dmitry
    1:43PM

    Gigabit Pro service from comcast

    Elvin
    1:43PM

    May I know what Gigabit Pro is, please?

    dmitry
    1:43PM

    claims to be available in the SF bay area

    dmitry
    1:43PM

    i want to know

    dmitry
    1:43PM

    dude...

    dmitry
    1:43PM

    it is on YOUR website..

    dmitry
    1:44PM

    http://www.xfinity.com/multi-g...

    Elvin
    1:45PM

    Thank you for that.

    Elvin
    1:47PM

    Gigabit Pro will generally be available to homes within one-third of a mile of Comcast's fiber network and will require installation of professional-grade equipment. Select markets in Atlanta, California, Chattanooga, Chicago, Florida, Knoxville, and Nashville have been chosen for initial launch, with the addition of numerous West Coast markets in the coming months.

    dmitry
    1:47PM

    ok...so can you tell me if a given address meets that criteria?

    Elvin
    1:49PM

    To properly assist you, I will transfer you to our sales department. Would that be fine?

    Elvin
    1:50PM

    I would like to set your expectation that you have actually reached Comcast High Speed Internet Technical Support.

    Elvin
    1:50PM

    No worries, I can still resolve your issue by connecting this chat to the department that handles this. I assure you that this will be accommodated accordingly.

    dmitry
    1:50PM

    ok

    Elvin
    1:50PM

    Thank you. Please wait while the problem is escalated to another analyst. There may be a 3-5 minutes hold for the chat to be assisted, and you will see a message that says I have âoeleft the roomâ; but please don't close the chat window for the next available agent to assist you.

    Elvin
    1:53PM

    By the way, may I know your zip code, please

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    1. Re:Customer Support is clueless about this by jd2112 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Short Version:
      Customer: I would like to sign up for 2Gbps fiber service.
      Comcast: Sorry, It's not available in your location.
      Customer: But I haven't given you my address.
      Comcast: Doesn't matter.

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  20. the A in ADSL by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    After a two weeks of trying to get comcast to fix my lack of connection I switched to DSL. I'm getting the advertised DSL speeds. What I'm wondering is why the hell is the upload speed of ADSL pegged at such a crappy ratio to the download speed. Cable has about a 2:1 ratio but ADSL is about 30:1. My upload speed is 0.8Mbs on a 20Mbs download line. Why? what's the physical limit on DSL that cable doesn't have on the asymmetric division? It used to be that this wasn't a big deal since relatively few people upload much. But these days uploading for common people is ubiquitous: your phone by default wants to push every photo to the cloud, your backups go to the cloud, and it's not uncommon to want to e-mail a 20Mb word document. So upload speed has become an issue.

    It becomes a major issue when a long duration upload (say a backup) chokes off even the modest handshaking upload that other download streams require and your Amazon prime fire TV stops working smoothly.

    Are the DSL companies doomed by physics or their market price point if they can't increase this without raising prices dramatically? Why would this be costly? I'd gladly trade a megabit of download for another megabit of upload.

    Comcast seems to have incentivized its india based outsourced customer service to optimally work against comcasts own interests. namely they first employ an incompetent first-line who cannot reason logically what the problem is and make you follow the script even after five previous calls (which apparently are not incentivized to make notes). thus they make their money from answering calls and getting you to just give up. then the next technique is to flat out lie("we will have technical call you in 30 minutes sir, this I promise to you. Now being such a good customer I have an upgrade deal to offer you"_) and finally even in the middle of the nightmare non-performing service they take the time to offer you additional costly upgrades. This only makes sense if you consider what the service center makes its profit on as opposed to comcast (retaining customers).

    The DSL company also seems confused at well but at least they make as many errors in my favor as they do against it that it can't be a deliberate strategy.

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    1. Re:the A in ADSL by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      My DSL is from Windstream, and 1.5mb down and 384k up. No blocked ports or anything.

      Unfortunately, I'm *just* on the edge of service, so if I upgrade to the 3mb offering my S:N ratio screws up and I can't stay connected for more than a few minutes at a time.

      Of course, they did just run a new fiber line right past my house a few weeks ago - unfortunately, I think it is on a different exchange for a different city (I have a city A phone prefix and city B physical address, my neighbors have city B phone prefix and city A physical address) so I'm not sure if it will improve my possible service.

      Tried bribing the trenching supervisor to run it on my side of the road, maybe with a Big Grey Box on the corner, but he said it couldn't be done...

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    2. Re:the A in ADSL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DSL has fixed bandwidth, so the provider picks the ratios. To increase the upload they have to decrease the download by the same speed, and download speeds are what sells because it is what everyone compares. Blame consumers for not knowing tcp/ip is an inherently two way protocol. Upload is required to ACKnowledge everything you receive.

  21. yes much more than 2Gbs by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Do rabbit ears provide 2 gbps internet? Why are they even an option here?

    Rabbit ears have way more than 2gbs/sec download but zero upload. You can easilyt watch 100 HD digital TV channels simultanously ig you have 100 rabbit ears, 100 Tv sets, and live in a city with 100 broadcast channels.

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    1. Re:yes much more than 2Gbs by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      I have Charter cable and it's great, but for sports on local channels I go with my rabbit ears. It's OTA uncompressed HD and even though Charter's picture is fine, the difference is very visible. Sports, especially football, is all I ever watch on my local channels.

      I also get an average 66 Mbps from their internet service and I see no need for anything faster right now. I don't have a 4K television so I don't have any experience with needing to stream 4K, but I think the service I have now can probably handle it.

    2. Re:yes much more than 2Gbs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's OTA uncompressed HD and even though Charter's picture is fine, the difference is very visible.

      I doubt it is uncompressed HD as 1920x1080 YUV 4:2:2 @ 30fps is about 1.5 Gbs. It's most likely the original OTA Mpeg4 that hasn't been compressed more.

    3. Re:yes much more than 2Gbs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's definitely not uncompressed. GP doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. He probably also thinks that HD is 720p.

  22. The Best Part? by jon3k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The best part is when no one signs up, they'll tell the FCC there's no demand for fiber.

    1. Re:The Best Part? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surprised you're not modded higher for insight / attention to history.

  23. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  24. I have to wonder what the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    secret data cap is and how quickly you'll hit it with fiber... What good is the connection if you're blowing through all your data in 2 hours...

  25. LOL, sure by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    $300 a month? My internet service better be delivered by hot Nubian sex slaves wearing nothing more than a smile.

    Seriously, fuck Comcrap, they suck, their service sucks, their reps suck, and did I mention they SUCK?

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    1. Re:LOL, sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So the hot Nubian sex slaves won't suck? How typically Comcast.

  26. Florida Man by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    The new service is only available in the Jacksonville, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach Florida area.

    I wonder why. You don't need 2g fiber to watch Pornhub and WWE clips on YouTube.

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    1. Re:Florida Man by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I like the Redneck Riviera. I have some property down in Bay County, a decent sized house with some actual land, that is on the beach and has a great tax rate and was absurdly inexpensive for what it is. (When the Great Flood arrives I will not be there.) It is in Panama City Beach which is where Spring Break got its start and is still a very popular destination for nubile college girls who are wanting to get some experiences. I usually spend a month there as that time is not really all that wonderful in Maine - it has already been winter for six months by then.

      All in all the locals are kind of nice and not entirely stupid. Even if you get out into the rural areas they are not that dumb. They do seem to have some spectacular fuck-ups and an inability to vote rationally though. There is one part of the 6 weeks or so that make up Spring Break where they do go a bit overboard. All the colleges/universities around there get the same break at the same time. They descend on PCB like a horde of locusts. It is beautiful. They call it FAG week, the locals do, because it is Florida, Alabama, and Georgia all coming in at one time. It is spectacular in its own special way.

      The "best" part is that there are no inspection stickers and pretty much anything goes as far as vehicles being on the road. There is a mix of drunken kids on golf carts and even drunker rural gents who are driving very tall platform vehicles with giant tires. Those vehicles pretty much have a flat platform, bus seats, a ladder to get onto it and a railing to keep yourself on top once you get their. They are often used to go out boar hunting (which is another excellent story - I went hunting boar with a battle axe and it was awesome and a successful hunt but I finished it off with a pistol) or even to hunt these little tiny critters that they call deer. I have had to prove to two people, down there, that we get 300# deer on a regular basis here. (My largest tag was 320 pounds dressed and was still very tasty.)

      Anyhow, I have been all over the world. The United States does not have an unusual amount of stupid people compared to the rest of the world. Florida is not really any dumber than any other state. Sure, certain areas attract brighter people but the average does not seem to move much no matter where you go and that includes the mountains of West Virginia (which are beautiful). Those WV mountains are also awesome if you are a musician but, well, I digress even further than I already have.

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  27. 2GB Internet with 250GB Cap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TSIA

  28. Who needs 2G? by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

    According to Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, it won't require more than a stable 15 Mbps to stream 4K.

    Even ISO's at 25MBps are done in next to no time. Instead of pumping up the volume so to speak, it would be far more consumer friendly (and valuable) to reduce the price of the connection dramatically. Of course, that will never happen as a) there is no competition and b) profits! The price of broad band is especially gualing giving how much fiber was scooped up for next to nothing during the dot.bomb

  29. No. Bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you own the pipes, it is a conflict to attempt to be one of many providing the water.
     
      Fuck off, Comcast.