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Google Is Dropping Its Google+ Requirement Across All Products Including YouTube

An anonymous reader writes: After years of plugging Google+ into all of its services, today Google announced that your Google+ profile will no longer be your identity in all its products. The company says it will take a few months for all the changes to happen, but the first product to be uncoupled will be YouTube. Bradley Horowitz, Google's vice president of streams, photos, and sharing, says the changes are a response to user feedback: "We've also heard that it doesn't make sense for your Google+ profile to be your identity in all the other Google products you use."

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  1. But... but? by ckatko · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who will I complain is evil and destroying the world, if they start doing things that aren't evil?

    1. Re:But... but? by binarylarry · · Score: 2

      Personally I didn't mind this feature.

      I hate juggling accounts, I hope this doesn't mean I'll need a YouTube account AND a gmail account.

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    2. Re:But... but? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking....

      I don't log in to many Google services other than gmail anyway though so I guess this doesn't affect me much.

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    3. Re:But... but? by mattventura · · Score: 2

      Before the G+ integration, there was the option to sign in with a normal Google account. Presumably that will still work.

    4. Re:But... but? by bigfinger76 · · Score: 2

      Some are age restricted, requiring you to sign in to view them.

    5. Re:But... but? by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 1

      Watch later, subscribe to a channel, I log in because I like those features... I don't really care so much that they integrate the accounts. But I can see how it would be a pain for someone without a g+ account, so I'm a fan of the change.

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    6. Re:But... but? by Shakrai · · Score: 2

      You can get all of that stuff from alt.binaries.erotica.* without needing a YouTube account. ;)

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    7. Re:But... but? by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      LOL ... who the hell still has access to usenet feeds?

      I mean, sure, who doesn't have fond memories of concatenating files and then uudecoding them to discover what you'd downloaded? Or the horror of discovering the horse porn.

      But the last time I saw anything with access to the usenet feeds was a long time ago. I'm sure they exist, but would most people even have access to them any more?

      I can honestly say I've seen some of the sickest stuff of my life on usenet. And I can also say I've not seen usenet in around a decade.

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    8. Re:But... but? by JMJimmy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Personally I didn't mind this feature.

      I hate juggling accounts, I hope this doesn't mean I'll need a YouTube account AND a gmail account.

      Personally I prefer having separate accounts. It's too easy to track down information with linked accounts. People don't realize how much information is publicly available and what consequences that can have. Heck, even without linked accounts it's far too easy. I once tracked down someone, at their request, starting with only a username on a single forum. On that forum they'd mentioned their cats names in a single post. From that I was able to identify their postings as anonymous users, their real name, address, social media profiles, and so on. The scary part, it took me less than an hour to compile all the information. The only reason it took that long is because there was a lady in Florida with the same cat names which had to be teased out of the data. Another individual I tracked, I was able to identify where they lived, what they drove, how long they'd lived in their home, what they paid for it, what they pay in taxes, what instrument they played in a band, etc... so many details of their life just out in the open. I got all of that starting from a single tweet on an account they'd only sent 8 tweets from and deleted; it just happened to have been cached by Google.

    9. Re:But... but? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean "We have found a new way to track your every move, we don't need google+ anymore"

    10. Re:But... but? by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      You need an account to store favorites, and to follow channels via subscription. That's why I bother logging in. Also, it lets me keep that stupid auto-play feature disabled. I don't know why that defaults to enabled. I'm watching some video, maybe just listening to it from another tab, and the assumption is that I want to auto-play some randomly-similar video after that. No I don't, why assume I do? Being logged in keeps that thing off like it should be.

    11. Re:But... but? by the_B0fh · · Score: 1

      You can continue using it, I believe.

    12. Re:But... but? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Fluffy's owner

    13. Re:But... but? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      I don't know why that defaults to enabled. I'm watching some video, maybe just listening to it from another tab, and the assumption is that I want to auto-play some randomly-similar video after that. No I don't, why assume I do? Being logged in keeps that thing off like it should be.

      Because ads. Once the tab you're listening to is over, it's going to autoplay the next tab, playing and ad.

      The goal is to open a tab in YouTube, and then have the ad play

    14. Re:But... but? by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

      So lesson learned; from now on I'm going to use an alias for my pets. ... Kidding aside, Google+ might be attached to doing real business, and then suddenly you might comment on a pet shaming video saying; "That is completely gay." Which can haunt you, and your gay cat forever.

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    15. Re:But... but? by tom229 · · Score: 1

      Ya, it's called logging into chrome. Have you seen their market share lately?

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    16. Re:But... but? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Wait....!!

      Does this finally mean I'll be able to post replies to my own YouTube channel and other's videos?

      I have my account, that predates Google taking YouTube over. I've resisted all these years going to G+ or giving them more information....but for that, Ihad to give up being able to post comments and replies not only to other peoples' videos, but even to my own.

      This will be a welcome change if that works!!

      Now, if they'd also do away with trying to occasionally "verify" your account with a phone call. I fear I"m gonna have to go get a disposable phone for that one day...but hey at least this is one step in the right direction.

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    17. Re:But... but? by wolrahnaes · · Score: 2

      LOL ... who the hell still has access to usenet feeds?

      Usenet is alive and well with some nice automated tools that handle all the processing of downloads and even download things for you. Search "NZB" and have fun. I just tell my home server what I want to watch and it handles the rest for me.

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    18. Re:But... but? by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      I have the same - an old account for my videos and I have tried to avoid the Google+ account as much as possible, so it's just good that it disappears. One headache less.

      Now if Facebook could disappear too.

      I don't have any problem with the account verification though - it's just a variant of the 2-factor authentication so don't complain too much, it may prevent you from getting your account hijacked.

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    19. Re:But... but? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You can't own a cat.

      At best he's Fluffy's servant.

    20. Re:But... but? by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      I have my account, that predates Google taking YouTube over. I've resisted all these years going to G+ or giving them more information....but for that, Ihad to give up being able to post comments and replies not only to other peoples' videos, but even to my own.

      You CAN post YouTube comments using the old pre google+ identity. You have to manually switch it to the old identity in settings. See that little icon with your name attached on the upper right of the YouTube main page? Click it and you can tell it to use the old identity. Every once in a while in the past they'd switch it back but they haven't done it in a while.

      But we shouldn't have had to do that.

    21. Re:But... but? by CronoCloud · · Score: 2

      LOL ... who the hell still has access to usenet feeds?

      For the binaries groups? Obsessive gotta-collect-all-the-media pirates, mostly.

      My ISP doesn't have their own netnews server anymore. At first they farmed it out to a third party but still included the service, but then they dropped it entirely.

      I've been looking around for a service that suits my needs, I don't need/want binaries and I don't want to have to pay whatever month to something like Giganews to help bankroll the piracy for everyone else.

    22. Re:But... but? by Stephen+Chadfield · · Score: 1

      Neigh, neigh and thrice neigh.

      (Apologies to Frankie Howard)

    23. Re:But... but? by sjames · · Score: 1

      Have you used broadband at all lately? The only thing they care about is prompt payment.

    24. Re:But... but? by m2shariy · · Score: 2

      I don't have any problem with the account verification though - it's just a variant of the 2-factor authentication so don't complain too much, it may prevent you from getting your account hijacked.

      On the other hand, if for some reason you phone number changes, bye-bye account.

    25. Re:But... but? by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      FP is from a G+ user!

    26. Re: But... but? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The first rule?

      7 bits. No binaries.

    27. Re:But... but? by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      The opposite of "online privacy," in many cases, is "personal brand value." I'm not sure that maximizing privacy online makes a lot of sense for most people.

    28. Re:But... but? by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      The opposite of "online privacy," in many cases, is "personal brand value." I'm not sure that maximizing privacy online makes a lot of sense for most people.

      It's not so much privacy as anonymity. Knowing that I can walk away from a profile which is not my "personal brand" and have no impact on my life. Being able to interact with the freedom to not worry about consequences is what the internet provides for me - otherwise I must be restrained in what I say for fear of the impact, now or in the future.

    29. Re:But... but? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      Shush shush... It's OK
      Windows 10 is only days away and then everything will be the same again,
      and we will be able to whine well past Service Pack One!

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    30. Re:But... but? by vux984 · · Score: 1

      The opposite of "online privacy," in many cases, is "personal brand value." I'm not sure that maximizing privacy online makes a lot of sense for most people.

      Agreed. The trouble arises though when the personal brand and the person don't always mix.

      I had a young real estate mortgage broker once, who as part of her attempt to develop her personal brand and maintain contact with clients sent everyone in her contact list an invitation to follow her on her then new twitter feed.

      I never followed her, but I clicked on the link once some months later to review her tweets and see how it had worked out. Naturally it was a disaster.

      She started out with the odd tweet about relevant news, interest rate changes, those common sense tips but as it was under name and clearly all her friends and family followed her, precisely the sort of thing one would have wanted or expected from following it. But it quickly devolved into a rapidfire feed where she used it to comment on everything from restaurants, concerts, clothes, politics, retweets of cat videos, argue with friends, etc. There's no way anyone whose only connection to her was her mortgage brokerage services would have even the slightest desire to constantly receive this stuff, and it certainly did nothing to improve her 'personal brand'.

      The upshot is that the idea that she'd have a twitter account in her name to develop her personal brand wasn't a bad idea. But it ended up being a far to direct window into her personal life, which her clients neither needed (nor wanted) to see. She needed an anonymous twitter feed disconnected from her personal brand to shoot the shit with her friends with.

      Last time I checked she no longer has twitter on her mortgage broker website.

    31. Re:But... but? by Eythian · · Score: 1

      In addition, I like to populate my "Watch later" list, or browse through channel subscriptions.

      There are many things that require an account that still allow you to ignore comments.

    32. Re:But... but? by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      If I had a username and it was a real cat named fluffy I might be able to do it. Thankfully, you made my point about anonymity - it's much harder to track people down when you can have unlinked/anonymizable accounts.

    33. Re:But... but? by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      That remark was hackneyed.

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    34. Re:But... but? by luther349 · · Score: 1

      google+ worked like this everyone was forced to sign in but not a soul used it.

    35. Re:But... but? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Let me rephrase: "Back in the olden days, where I directly paid for service that was not a geographic monopoly, the provider would care about such issues."

    36. Re:But... but? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      I don't have any problem with the account verification though - it's just a variant of the 2-factor authentication so don't complain too much, it may prevent you from getting your account hijacked.

      Well, I just would rather not give Google my cell phone number...

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    37. Re:But... but? by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      This post reminds me of how much confusion the YouTube login systems have caused. I've been using YouTube since 2006, so I think I now have: Two separate "YouTube accounts", a "Google account", and a "Google Plus account". I'm still not clear on the distinction between all of these, how they are linked (between themselves and between other Google services), etc.

    38. Re:But... but? by ipb · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, if for some reason you phone number changes, bye-bye account.

      Get a Google Voice number

    39. Re:But... but? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      binaries.* needs a friggin credit card nowadays.

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    40. Re:But... but? by swinferno · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I totally recognize this.
      And I don't consider it worth my time and effort to try and figure it out either.

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    41. Re:But... but? by houghi · · Score: 1

      I just open them in a frame. I do that with all Youtube videos.

      e.g. http://houghi.org/yt.php?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
      Code I have is availabe through a link in the top left. No age restriction when you use it this way.

      I have a shortcut that points to http://houghi.org/yt.php?houghi=URL_from_Youtube and turn it into what I want. I use vq=hd1080. You can change and add parameters to whatever you desire on your own website.

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    42. Re:But... but? by tattood · · Score: 1

      I don't have any problem with the account verification though - it's just a variant of the 2-factor authentication so don't complain too much, it may prevent you from getting your account hijacked.

      They do have a Google Authenticator app for your phone. When you log in from a new device it makes you enter a one-time PIN before you get logged in.

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    43. Re:But... but? by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      She should have had a personal Twitter handle and one for her business. Mixing the two together doesn't make much sense.

    44. Re:But... but? by Keybounce · · Score: 1

      Same here! I can only reply to existing messages, and cannot otherwise comment on my own videos.

      And that is *AFTER* upgrading to stupid forced-social share-your-details stupidity -- before that I could not do anything without making a brand-new account just for replying to youtube.

    45. Re:But... but? by edtice1559 · · Score: 2

      Being able to interact with the freedom to not worry about consequences is what the internet provides for me - otherwise I must be restrained in what I say for fear of the impact, now or in the future.

      Fair enough. But this isn't the *intent* of most social media. You might behave responsibly in this situation but, in general, whenever this is allowed, it becomes a feeding frenzy for trolls. Facebook used to have a real names policy and still pretty much does for normal people. It's why all of the moms are on there an comfortable. Gaming sites (Steam, et cetera) don't have this and the environment is one of unrestrained teenagers. It's getting harder and harder to have a profile you can walk away from and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It means you have to be much more careful expressing unpopular views, but this may actually be good for those views. Triggering negative reactions isn't a great way to get your point across. The only real time you need anonymity is fighting oppressive regimes and, in that case, you have a much different problem set.

    46. Re:But... but? by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      These profiles that you supposedly can't walk away from is the real danger for me. Trolls will always exist no matter what so that's a non-issue for me. The problem with not being able to walk away is not only expressing something but also simply being able to cut ties with a company. Wikipedia as an example, there is no possible way to cut ties with them, it's likely not legal but who's going to fight it? Steam, if you buy thousands of dollars worth of stuff off but need to walk away from them - you can't, you're locked in. If you delete your account somehow, you lose what you've paid for and that's a dangerous position to be in because someone else has control of your assets. Steam it doesn't matter much because it's entertainment but the more we hand over this control the fewer options we will have in life.

      As to unpopular views, they need to get out. People need outlets to discuss the merits and drawbacks of unpopular ideas or they will never be anything but. Right or wrong any time minority views are suppressed, whether by self-restraint or external pressures, it's bad for society. A simple example cropped up in the news today. A couple girls were stopped by police for cycling topless. It is and was an unpopular thing but someone had the idea years ago, and took it to court. The courts agreed that it was an equality issue and women have the right to go topless in public if they so choose making the police stop illegal. Without pursuing that unpopular idea though, it would have been legal and the police state would be dictating dress codes... which is exactly what we point to as "evil" in other states and throughout history.

    47. Re:But... but? by shentino · · Score: 1

      Buck off

    48. Re:But... but? by allo · · Score: 2

      Google+ != Google Account.

      For example i stopped writing reviews for android apps, when it was not possible with google account anymore (your appstore login anyway), but needed a google+ account.

    49. Re:But... but? by allo · · Score: 1

      Google Authenticator for the win. Even the pebble supports it.

  2. Finally by Tyrannosaur · · Score: 1

    Horray!

  3. People use google+ ? by plopez · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hadn't heard much of it lately.

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    1. Re:People use google+ ? by TyFoN · · Score: 1

      I'm actually using it every day both for family (I got them all there) and special interests of mine.

      99% of the stuff is privately shared though so I guess it looks dead from the outside (and non searchable).

    2. Re:People use google+ ? by GNious · · Score: 1

      I hadn't heard much of it lately.

      That is to say, you and your mom doesn't use it - good on you.

      ca 1-2 times a week, I'm linked something that involves Facebook, usually due to some B-list celebrity put up a video someone else thinks I should watch.
      Daily, I get several messages/posts via Google+, and have "hangouts" (usually just text) via it.

      Obviously, most people on the planet use Google+

  4. End of Google+ by johanw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Knowing Google, they will usually abort failed projects. They tried really hard with Google+ but it has failed almost as bad as windows phone so it's about time to abandon it.

    1. Re:End of Google+ by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      That was my first thought as well. Once they've uncoupled everything from Google+, I expect (within the subsequent 6-12 months) we'll hear that Google+ has been EOLed.

      That's fine by me; but I imagine we'll see a lot of kvetching here on Slashdot.

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    2. Re:End of Google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Being able to gracefully retire bad projects is a talent surprisingly few companies have.

    3. Re:End of Google+ by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Nah, most of the kvetching comes when they axe something that people like.

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    4. Re:End of Google+ by twokay · · Score: 1

      Yup, i bet flicking the switch on Reader again is a lot easier than decoupling Google+ from everything. Also please can i have the Listen Android app back to go with it. Thanks!

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    5. Re:End of Google+ by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      Knowing Google, they will usually abort failed projects. They tried really hard with Google+ but it has failed almost as bad as windows phone so it's about time to abandon it.

      Worldwide, Google+ is far from a failure. In fact, it has more users than Twitter.
      I think a lot of Slashdot readers' comments are biased by an amerocentric point of view.

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    6. Re:End of Google+ by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      It is about registered accounts, not users. And because Google tries to shoehorn a G+ registration into any Google service, they have far less users than accounts.

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    7. Re:End of Google+ by DRCJR · · Score: 1

      Why do people keep repeating this fact-less drivel? G+ has not failed at all among the people that use it. A lot more people use it than YOU realize.

  5. Re:It's about fucking time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All I can say is it is about fucking time. Now I can troll again without people knowing who I am!

    Fixed.

  6. I don't get it by BitZtream · · Score: 1

    So the argument all along has been

    I don't want to have the same profile across all my google products but I want to login with the same profile across all the products

    Which, to put it bluntly, is fucking retarded.

    If you want different profiles, create different accounts. Your identity is your identity, its pretty stupid to use the same account across all the platforms but different names, the only person you're fooling is yourself, for everyone else we can still easily link your various google accounts to the same login, but hey, you go ahead and pretend because you can now use a different alias on youtube that no one can figure out who you are when you go trolling.

    So big fucking woop, you don't have to give google the 3 lines it requires for a Google+ profile in one place ... now you're going to do it in EVERY place.

    If you're one of the people who think this is good, you really are stupid and need to put your tin foil hat away. Its not even hiding you from anything.

    Yes, this post is inflammatory, its supposed to be, its targeted at the trolls who think hiding behind their half assed pseudonym is clever even when logging in with the same email address/account everywhere.

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    1. Re:I don't get it by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      Paranoia aside, I agree I don't want things linked with new and "innovative" features that mainly enhance the mining capabilities of the provider.

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    2. Re: I don't get it by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1
      How quaint. Somebody who thinks that their internet use is anonymous.

      If you act as if everything you post can eventually be traced to you and you're wrong, no harm done. If you act as though stuff will never be traced back to you and you're wrong, that's a different story.

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    3. Re:I don't get it by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Then you're just stupid.

      I've had at least 3 Google accounts since before G+ existed and added another 2 while G+ existed. Its pretty simple to create a new account with or without a real name, which hasn't been a requirement for a while now, thanks for paying attention to what you're whining about ...

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    4. Re:I don't get it by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Why would I give slashdot access to my Google account info? See I created separate accounts instead of bitching that people could figure out that I was a douche across all my sites using the same account.

      And lets point out, I'm using an account thats 15 years old, you aren't even logged in.

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  7. Obligatory comic... by dwheeler · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Obligatory comic here: http://owlturd.com/post/730466...

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    1. Re:Obligatory comic... by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      :( poor little G+. I love you little dude!

    2. Re:Obligatory comic... by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      Surprisingly full of "feels".

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  8. Latitude! by roc97007 · · Score: 3

    Great. Now put Latitude back in Maps where it belongs!

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    1. Re:Latitude! by houghi · · Score: 1

      We could make a list that they need to do: My three things
      1) Make classic Maps available for those who want it
      2) Make classic Images the standard (Including the porn filter. No need to babysit me)
      3) Bring back the original Dejanews.

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  9. One Facebook... by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One Facebook to rule them all. At least Google gave it a try. I guess the end Facebook's dominance will have to be a long, slow process of attrition like with MySpace. It has a critical mass of users that cannot be overcome with money or other Web presence, as proven by Google. It may also take the young generation growing through it - most people under 20 do not have much interest in Facebook at all. They have accounts of course, but very few are very active.

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    1. Re:One Facebook... by rikxik · · Score: 2

      > most people under 20 do not have much interest in Facebook at all. They have accounts of course, but very few are very active.

      That is true for mostly US/Europe - Asia is a clear exception where Facebook is still very much the medium of choice and snapchat etc haven't even come close to replacing it.

  10. Re:Not ALL their products by nate_in_ME · · Score: 1

    While I'm guessing it wants just a Google account, and not specifically a gmail account, that's still not the same as a G+ account.

  11. Re:It's about fucking time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bingo. YouTube is rife with trolls [1], and there is nothing channel owners can do to block them. You can "block" them... which means you can't see their messages, but they can still post to your channel. Or you can actively keep running up and down the comments and delete posts, which is like trying to piss on a forest fire in hopes of putting it out.

    I'd like to see a responsibility system put in place. Something like Stackexchange where it is easy to have an account, but you have to earn privileges to post or comment which means a troll isn't going to bother taking the time to do that, only to get banned.

    [1]: A few years ago, I remember a guy who had car destruction derbies on his property and showed basic mechanic stuff. He was the #1 Canadian YouTuber. Then the trolls managed to make up so much stuff and got his channel taken down because there was a boy running around sans shirt, so hundreds of sock puppets flagged his stuff as child pornography. YouTube is great if you are doing cat pictures or maybe cooing about the latest iPhone... but anything outside of that, the trolls will destroy someone.

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  13. Re:Not ALL their products by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

    It's a Gmail account.

  14. Good. by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    Thank-you.

  15. This is a smart move for them by ErichTheRed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One problem with Google+ in my opinion was that G+ would be like Facebook if Facebook had perfect information on every one of your habits/actions/locations. When you have to use it to sign in to everything, it approaches the creepy line that a lot of people have.

    It's similar to how a lot of discussion forums, etc. encourage or force Facebook logins to post. You'd think that would keep people at bay, but all that vitriolic hatred you see on news forums, etc. is right there next to people's pictures and occupations -- "Joe User - 7th Grade Social Studies teacher at Somewhereville Middle School." I once thought, "No one could be that dumb, posting trash like that as a public figure with their real ID." Sure enough, go look for the person on LinkedIn, there he is with a matching picture, etc. People really have zero knowledge about how social media works, what the companies use the data for, or anything about online privacy.

    1. Re:This is a smart move for them by rwa2 · · Score: 2

      I don't know about you, but I kinda prefer having targeted advertising for stuff I'm actually interested in, as opposed to being bombarded with random ads for beer and diapers and feminine hygiene products that I get when I'm in a "fresh" browser or incognito mode. I'm also OK with using the random Google accounts I created to do online shopping... they're anonymous enough for me relative to the realname account that I only use for talking to the handful of actual people in a "social" context.

    2. Re:This is a smart move for them by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 2

      I too think it's insane to link a "real" account to a forum for exchanging my "opinion."

      If Slashdot only allowed FaceBook logins, I'd either censor my opinions and keep it professional (which MIGHT be good for the quality and decorum of discussion) or I'd not use Slashdot.

      When FaceBook logins were required for Huffingtonpost.com and Digg.com -- I quickly left. It's one thing to voice a political opinion -- it's another thing to become permanently unemployable.

      More and more, I believe, companies will use social media to do background checks, and if your Facebook doesn't look like a Sears & Roebuck catalog and your political opinions aren't supporting Bernie Sanders -- you are in luck!

      I also figure that you will soon have an "employment score" just like you have a credit score. Free speech doesn't mean much without employment.

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    3. Re:This is a smart move for them by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      You think it's about targeted advertising selecting stuff you like? It's about targeted advertising knowing what kind of emotional appeals work best on you. It's about knowing enough about you that your drunken argument online goes viral and is the first thing everyone knew learns about you (as opposed to being pseudonymous and allowing you to walk away). It's about avoiding being tracked now because you can never get untracked.

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    4. Re:This is a smart move for them by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you, but I kinda prefer having targeted advertising for stuff I'm actually interested in

      Not me. Targeted advertising really pisses me off. Well, not the advertising -- all advertising is obnoxious, targeted or not -- but rather the spying that is required in order to do the targeted advertising.

  16. But I just linked my g+ to my Zune! by mekkab · · Score: 4, Funny

    How will my friends know what I'm listening to?!

    /Oh right, I don't have any friends. So no problem!

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  17. All? by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

    Presumably you'll still need a google+ id to log into google+

  18. Re:It's about fucking time! by gnupun · · Score: 1

    Better the freedom to troll than big brother monitoring every breath you take. But does Google really need G+ to track you? It is quite pervasive on the web and IDing a person is quite easy.

    What were those folks thinking about privacy when they designed HTML pages to execute and load dynamic/static content from foreign websites? Isn't it time the user has control over whether foreign websites (like google analytics or addthis.com) runs on most of their webpages (foreign sites should be opt-out by default, not opt-in)? How come this type of issue is never discussed instead of the mindless SJW stuff that usually pops up?

  19. Not Needed anymore by Pepebuho · · Score: 2

    It means that they no longer need to index and associate your use across platforms because they have already developed the capability to link you personally across all their different platforms through Super Cookies, Data Mining, etc. Google+ is now irrelevant and a good bone to throw to the privacy minding minions who will celebrate it as if it accomplished anything.

    JP

  20. Not Here, Not Ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    AdBlock Plus and Disconnect do wonders for ending the ads in YouTube.

    1. Re:Not Here, Not Ever by Black+LED · · Score: 2

      Magic Actions is even better for YouTube.

  21. Re:Leaving Google by itamihn · · Score: 1

    You can always install a Google-free version of Android.

  22. The sooner the better by jonwil · · Score: 1

    I refused to comment on YouTube because of the whole G+ thing, now I can go back to commenting on the many interesting YouTube videos I see :)

  23. Hopefully this means Google Play app reviews too by rklrkl · · Score: 1

    Quite a while ago, Google made the onerous and 100% unnecessary requirement that reviews of Google Play store apps *required* a Google+ account. I very begrudgingly created a Google+ account which I have everything turned off on because I do like to review apps, but hate everything to do with social media garbage.

    If they remove the Google+ requirement for Google Play app reviews, my Google+ account is gone. BTW, does this mean that the Google Play Games service doesn't need a Google+ account (unlikely I guess - I loathe that it defaults to sharing everything to the world about your gaming by default and I always have to turn off the options for each game)?

  24. You own a cat; that's all they need to know. by tepples · · Score: 1

    My cat's name is fluffy, who am I?

    A sales lead for every maker of cat food, cat litter, cat medication, cat toys, and other products targeted at cat owners. Sing it with me: Meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow...

  25. Bootstrapping reputation by tepples · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see a responsibility system put in place. Something like Stackexchange where it is easy to have an account, but you have to earn privileges to post or comment

    According to this walkthrough of Stack Exchange, you first earn 10 by improving formatting or grammar in five posts. This gives "participate in meta", allowing you to ask for clarification of a site's scope, and "remove new user restrictions", allowing you to cite sources in questions and answers, provide screenshots in questions and answers if necessary, and answer protected questions. Then you earn 40 more by providing useful answers to a couple questions. This gives "comment everywhere".

    In your vision of ResponsibleTube, how would a new user go about earning enough points to comment? Would initial reputation be based on an invite tree (like the field trials of Orkut, Gmail, and Google+), a valid enrollment in higher education (like the field trial of Facebook), a valid subscription to mobile phone service (like Yahoo! and current Gmail), or a months-long waitlist (like Google Contributor)?

  26. Android 2 vs. Android 4 by tepples · · Score: 1

    Android Market in Android 2 required specifically a Gmail account and gave the "aeris@example.com does not use Gmail. Add Gmail to your Google account" registration for a Google account associated to any other email address. Google Play Store in Android 4 or later allows use of any Google account but requires a Google+ profile in order to leave a review of an app.

  27. Discrimination against ex-felons by tepples · · Score: 1

    Yesterday I just got my first ex-felon to mysteriously add me to his G+ circles via youtube

    "Ex-felon" means he's not a felon anymore. He's done his time; he's rehabilitated. Why should society give him what amounts to a life sentence?

  28. Automatically upload pictures of children. by aybiss · · Score: 1

    Wonder how many people gave G+ an instant and permanent dismissal based on just that one overreach?

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  29. Well I got f'd by this,... let's clarify here.. by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    I clicked some stuff in a pretty deceptive box which kept coming up on Youtube about my name, not clearly outling what it was about to do (bind my gmail / google account to youtube)

    Problem is, uncoupling it (which I've always been able to do) COMPLETELY hides / "damages" my videos. You can no longer view them, they are bound to the G+ account now, NOT the original account.

    If I re-activate G+, bam the videos are back.
    This has, I admit, made me post significantly more carefully in youtube comments. That being said, I've also held back on a plethora of youtube comments simply as I don't want even my hobbies known / tracked by others. My privacy is pretty important to me, and having my "real" google identity become my youtube comment identity was definitely an issue.
    (Before anyone says it, not all youtube comments are ghastly. I'd say quite a good portion are infact, quite good and informative)

    So,.......... will this be a FULL reversal? Pull my G+ account away from YT AND restoring my old YT data / profile / videos / views?

  30. Ok, so... by Torp · · Score: 1

    ... how do i check if i'm on google+ and if i am (i never was intentionally but who knows what i clicked wrong) how can i remove myself from this abomination?

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  31. It's about time. by ToddInSF · · Score: 1

    It always sucked, and I'm always happy when Google fails. Fuck Google and fuck Facebook.

  32. Let's dance to the "Google Step" Itsa 1,2, & by doccus · · Score: 1

    First 1) they introduce feature nobody wants then 2) force everybody to use it, and when everyone's adjusted to it, they 3) remove it or "uncouple it"... often the first step to dropping it altogether.. Boy they do that a lot. Why don't they do more pre-release research instead?

  33. Re:No friends by mekkab · · Score: 1

    I like the cut of your jib, anon. We should hang out.

    /but not as friends... because of reasons.

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