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Reddit Updates Content Policy, Bans More Subreddits
AmiMoJo writes: Reddit's new CEO, Steve Huffman, announced new a content policy and the banning of a small number of subreddits today. Additionally, some subreddits will be "quarantined", so users can't see their content unless they explicitly opt in. "Our most important policy over the last ten years has been to allow just about anything so long as it does not prevent others from enjoying Reddit for what it is: the best place online to have truly authentic conversations.I believe these policies strike the right balance."
The names of the nixed subreddits make clear that they're not exactly neighbors exchanging pleasantries.
I'm impressed this is still going on, after all these years. Dedication.
at least its not hot grits.
Did you mean: Frosted Butts
So, it's banning communities of people who draw distasteful pictures, and those who are racist against black people?
1) Abhorrent as the former are, who are they harming? i.e. what is the objective justification for banning them, beyond, "These people are fucking sick" - probably true, but so what?
2) While the latter appears may include some groups dedicated to posting gore videos posted without subject consent, there seem to be some fairly mild groups among that list when contrasted with other non-racist harassment groups that have not been banned.
You are all cows. Cows say moo. MOOOOOOOOO! MOOOOOOOOOO! Moo cows MOOOOOOO! Moo say the cows. YOU COWS!!
* but watch what you say
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
Do what every other exile from Reddit has been doing, move on over to voat. It's a lot more reliable now. Every day there's more content. And the users aren't shitty (mostly)!
among the list of banned subreddits:
/r/CoonTown, /r/WatchNiggersDie, /r/bestofcoontown, /r/koontown, /r/CoonTownMods, /r/CoonTownMeta.
not exactly sterling content that spurs thoughtful collaboration and debate. It harms the reddit brand, but id argue this is less censorship and more spam control. Reddits purpose is entertainment, social networking, and news. If you want flagrant unsubstantiated and indefensible racism, most routers still manage to handle connection requests to the servers at stormfront and about a hundred other different sites.
Good people go to bed earlier.
I love hot grits, especially when I pour them down Natalie Portman's pants.
All kinds of forums, from Facebook on down to unheard of boards with a dozen members, have their rules. Some of them really piss me off, because they want only language, thoughts, and images that would be acceptable in kindergarden, or Sunday School. They REALLY piss me off.
On the other hand - "/r/WatchNiggersDie" - WTF? Hey - you don't have to like black people. You don't have to love them. You don't have to live with a black person. You don't have to talk to them. If you're so bigoted that you can't abide a black person in your life, well, it's your loss. Hate, all you want. You have no right to expect normal people to accept, or even tolerate, the kind of shit I would expect on that forum.
If you're that hateful, go post on Stormfront. You'll be welcome over there, I believe. But, they DO have some rules that you'll have to abide by.
Funny - every community has rules to live by. Even a community of haters. Don't like the rules, go elsewhere, or make your own board.
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I've spoken with reddit users and have heard accusations that shadow bans are being abused. What's involved in shadow banning someone? Are people being shadow banned for being involved in unpopular sub-reddits?
If you want flagrant unsubstantiated and indefensible racism, most routers still manage to handle connection requests to the servers at stormfront and about a hundred other different sites.
That's exactly what I figured, too. There's already perfectly good places on the Internet for these folks to go. Maybe these sites aren't as cool 'n hip as Reddit, but then, coolness and hipness aren't so much of a concern for racists, are they? :-)
I kind of can't help but wonder if the older-school douchebags on Stormfront et al. will be happy to get the influx of new blood, or if it'll be their equivalent of Eternal September....
Your rights end where my feelings begin! Shut it down, goyim!
Banning this one sounds like a bad idea to me. I know there are people who e.g. have issues with rage and are unable to control it, even with medication and therapy, unless they can find a safe outlet for it every now and then and for some of them violent videogames have been a great alternative. I would imagine imaginary CP could serve as a similar outlet. The people who get tickled too much about such and then go and do things for real will do it anyways, so banning such won't stop those people, but providing an outlet for people whom such content would help control themselves might, indeed, prevent them from taking it out on a real person. Of course, IMHO, there should still be some sort of therapy in addition to such, but our society makes it really difficult for people to admit such a problem even to professionals.
To establish a censorship policy, you always ban the most objectionable stuff first. When that's done, you've turned a matter of principle into a matter of valuation.
Can you summarize the point? I read all you pasted and am still confused what the point is.
Sorry just sick of hearing about Reddit - they'll eventually not matter, just like MySpace or this place.
Can you summarize the point? I read all you pasted and am still confused what the point is.
Slashdot: News for redditors by redditors. I've only stumbled across reddit a couple times, and so I also have no idea what the significance of any of that is, or why I should care.
Better known as 318230.
Yep, apparently someone being black is a subjective perception that it's okay to mock, and he/she wonders why someone labelled him as racist.
This was a long post for a troll, but I can't take it seriously either, because lets be honest, it had a limited audience in the place that actually knows what "KiA" and "GamerGhazi" are. It also ignores that the admin who opened that thread said that the banned subreddits were banned for behaviour, not for ideas.
I can only echo - "Won't something think of the racists!?"
Everyone who cares about this is a loser. Go out and socialize like actual people, you fucking nerds. Too much time on the internet rots your brain.
Essentially, the commenter was complaining about a double-standard. Why are communities focused on hate for a group removed when other communities that focus on brigading (actively downvoting comments in a thread on a different community) and attacking people for their views. The OP posted a comment 4 years ago about r/rapingwomen and r/beatingwomen and how they should not be banned. This was in the context of reddit standing for freedom of speech. His logic was "if you want a truly free reddit, you can't ban communities like these, despite how terrible they may be." Someone dug up his comment, reposted it in ShitRedditSays, and people started attacking him from all angles - calling him a rapist, etc. He's feeling like reddit is picking and choosing which "harassing" subreddits are ok, and which aren't.
Came to post this.
Admins must be trollin'. There is absolutely no way they are not aware that SRS is the most toxic sub there is. They do more direct damage to individual users than every other sub combined. And not a peep from the admins. Double-U Tee Eff.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
Reddit lets some people brigade (SRS) while banning others. You can do anything you want as long as it agrees with their new direction.
Somebody will always be annoyed about something. Are they going to ban religion or atheism boards next? If they want to protect sensitive ears, then they should set-up an opt-in flag that will hide inflammatory reddts from searches and casual browsing.
SRS (/r/shitredditsays) is a subreddit (forum) in which users post links to comments in other subreddits they find "offensive." The other users then follow that link to exact bloody revenge. And I mean bloody. They do not just "brigade" (which is also against the rules), downvoting en mass and posting insults. They go through somebody's post history and downvote everything they've ever said. They go farther still, "doxxing" people, breaking their pseudo-anonymity by going through their post history to try to uncover their real identity. Then they go further still, harassing that person in real life, and contacting their employer and trying to get them fired for opinions they expressed on the internet. It is the definition of harassment, in violation of the terms of the service of reddit and common human decency. Yet, SRS is never disciplined, never banned.
And in case you're wondering "well maybe these people deserve it!" No. Not by any stretch of the imagination. It's not like they're uncovering child abusers or something. They take anything that even maybe hints of "privilege" or insensitivity and spin horror stories out of whole cloth. In Warlizard's case (the guy who wrote the comment the GP reposted), he, talking about censorship, said that if reddit stands for "free speech" as they claim to, then no they shouldn't ban offensive subreddits like /r/rapingwomen. He goes on to say that if he had a private forum that he hosted, and someone made a subforum for that topic, he would ban it in a heartbeat because it's horrific and offensive. However, SRS took the first part of that and ran with it, called him a "rapist," followed him around, harassing him, and leaving nasty reviews on Amazon of the books he's authored.
They do this to lots of people. They want to be Social Justice Batman, but they're kind of like Batman if he were mentally retarded and high on crystal meth, programmed to punch anybody who utters certain words, regardless of context.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
Because reddit is the largest news aggregation site on the Internet, and censorship on the internet, whether done by governments or private corporations, is a hot button issue.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
If they want to protect sensitive ears, then they should set-up an opt-in flag that will hide inflammatory reddts from searches and casual browsing.
Sound slike that is exactly what they are doing with the quarantine feature, where you have to explicitly opt-in to see the content.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
The original post, right at the very top, explains this. Shame you scrolled down too fast to read it... I guess Reddit is like Slashdot, no-one reads TFS, just the headline.
The banned the boards that give them the most grief, and quarantined the most popular ones with objectionable content. The boards that were unaffected are either not causing their staff to waste a large proportion of their time on them, or they are not popular enough to bother quarantining.
Their approach is to simply deal with issues as they arise, rather than methodically go through every board looking for ones to ban or quarantine. Some simpletons see this as being inconsistent, but total consistency isn't Reddit's goal. Why expend resources trying to actively moderate the entire site and pissing people off when you can just deal with the worst offenders that generate (according to TFA) 99.98% of the problems.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Why not allow the USER to decide what they do or do not want to see, rather than using corporate sponsored censorship? I dunno maybe some kind of "block list" they can set for their own account?
The point of free speech principles is that you can't protect the important speech without bringing along all forms of speech, even stupid ones, because the alternative is the slippery slope of censorship and deciding who should have the power to do it. But even in the ideal case, it is the right of *each person* to decide what they want to listen to.
Crazy idea, I KNOW!
They do this to lots of people. They want to be Social Justice Batman, but they're kind of like Batman if he were mentally retarded and high on crystal meth, programmed to punch anybody who utters certain words, regardless of context.
So, 'merica, fuck yeah?
Everyone knows Reddit is toxic. Why is this news?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I love 'em so much I have a beowulf cluster of hot grits down Natalie Portman's pants...
Never thought I'd be nostalgic for Slashdot trolls.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
As someone who visited the place on a few occasions, I can say a lot of the users are pretty extreme and obnoxious/spammy with their hate, but there were a lot (including non-whites, and even some blacks) who wanted to get to the truth and argue facts and logic. FWIW, their main list of 'facts' can be seen here.
Personally, I don't think silencing them will help, as it won't stop people from being racist, and certainly won't help debate (they've just moved anyway - their new place is at Voat which is like a non-censored version of Reddit).
As for own view, well, I guess evolution shows that humans didn't evolve perfectly, and so despite the fashionable cultural relativistic worldview a lot have today, it isn't inconceivable that there are qualities such as IQ, beauty, strength or aggression which are more pronounced in one subset of humans compared to another. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm a little worried that over the next few centuries there won't be any whites as we'll all have mixed into a single homogeneous people (well in previously white countries anyway, since white people aren't exactly flooding Africa, India or Asia...)
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.
— HL Mencken
Drinking habits can be dangerous. You can choke on the cloth and the nuns will wonder where their clothes are.
Slowly but surely, Reddit has deliberately reformed itself to be a politically correct echo chamber. The policies only touch those who voice politically incorrect opinions. This is nothing more than thought policing.
This will ultimately be its undoing, and will significantly improve the quality of discussion in whatever follows, as the signal to noise ratio will be considerably higher when the usual parrots are left to their own devices.
This kind of behavior is normal in media once it reaches certain traction, and has happened here in Slashdot as well. This is no longer news for nerds in the sense it used to be, but much more focused on egaliatarian, progressive policies etc nonsense.
See you on the other side.
Sincerely,
-Nearly two decades of Slashdot.
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No, nobody else notices, because you're standing in the middle of a fucking shitstorm over spez doing the SJW thing and censoring groups and you're too fucking blind to see it. Maybe if you pulled your head out of your ass you'd realize that smell isn't just your own shit?
BTW, it is censorship, the only difference is that it's fully legal censorship since spez is (theoretically) not an agent of the government and therefore not bound by the Constitution to not censor things. It's likewise fully legal for everyone else to point out that it is censorship.
Except that coontown and the others were explicitly named as quarantine-worthy when the "quarantine feature" was originally proposed. I suspect they've found that they've fired/laid off/lost all the developers that could develop such a thing and they needed to clean the site up for sale sooner rather than later, so they've used the tools they have now.
This site has already killed memes. Now it, and its interminable e-drama whoring, is going to kill free speech online as well. What's next? Email? Youtube? Web browsers? Whatever shits up the internet next, odds are it will start on reddit.
The Oldfags were always right. Reddit needs to leave.
Fatpeoplehate was banned because the called out the Imgur staff for being fat using a pictures that they put up publicly. SRS doesn't make fun of fat white people so they're perfectly safe since that makes up 90% of Reddit and Imgur employees.
As mentioned in another comment the behaviour of that subreddit goes way beyond simply brigading but in the realm of raiding, doxxing and harassing individual users.
The difference in remedies here is what makes this interesting: if Reddit is not banning for ideas but for behaviour what is the difference between SRS and FPH that justifies the difference in treatment?
If Reddit shuts off the supply, how will anyone express an opinion on the internet? Nobody has the capability to reverse engineer the decades or proprietary research and technology that enables posting comments on an internet forum.
Reddit and imgur have both been trying to commercialize themselves and look attractive for a buyout a good long while now. This is just another step forward towards monetizing those communities.
I don't see how that contradicts the top post. What they are saying is that they want to improve Reddit generally by preventing block voting, rather than having to fire fight individual issues on certain subreddits.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
This is how the typical SJW argument is constructed:
Premise 1: MISOGYNY!
Premise 2: THIS IS MISOGYNY!!
Conclusion: YOU ARE MISOGYNIST!!!
I'd say the vast majority of us men oppose the censorship and 'wrongthink must be punished' attitude no matter if it originated from Pao or from the new male CEO.
Well you have to be incredibly stupid to harass admins.
It's for users for whom you predict, are going to think that anyway. It's for people you have given up on. By shadowbanning instead of encouraging them to create a new whack-a-mole account, you make their damage and your work go away.
Yes, and when you have already tried confrontation and it has failed for that particular user, you need a plan b. What's wrong with this plan b? What would you do, if confrontation achieved nothing and a particular user was creating recurring moderation work for you? Confront them every day? From 8:00-8:45 every morning, you private-message all the assholes, then next month it's 8:00-8:57 and then next month it's 8:00-9:12 etc, until telling the same people, over and over again, "stop being an asshole" is your full time job?
Agreed. But there's no need to put a spin on what happened. There were many feelings hurt and FPH had to go and coontown got to stay a while. Because hating a bunch of fat white people is way, WAY worse than hating people for their race.
The admins are a little pathetic. It's pretty funny to watch in all honesty.
Its their site they can make creat the rules as they damn well please. They also are not your rights defenders. The only thing i don't like is where can you go and be as hateful as you wish? You cant run websites from your own PC ISPs don't allow it so you have to rent a server and then abide by their rules as well so.... I think we should all be allowed to run a non commercial web site from our own PCs so we can trustfully have free speech. That,s what the Internet was all about in the first place right not just so corporations can make billions and make all the rules.
Jack of all trades,master of none
The complaint is about the difference in the treatment of two similar problem subreddits: FPH and SRS, along with the current batch of banned ones.
The former got banned (according to the official explanation) not because of their ideas but because of the behaviour of their members (doxxing, harassing). The current batch was banned because (according to the official explanation) they "are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else".
SRS exhibits the same behaviour that got FPH banned (brigading, harassing) and arguably exhibits the same behaviour that was used to justify the banishment of the current batch: existing "solely to annoy other redditors".
The above posted explanation from the admin admits SRS is a problem but only touches the brigading and anti brigading measures.
It gives the impression that existing "solely to annoy other redditors" was not the real reason for banning the current batch and that "doxxing and harassing" was not the real reason for banning FPH.
As Reddit has explained, the criteria is not just the content, it's how visible the subreddit is and how much work it creates for Reddit staff. In the specific case of ShitRedditSays they prefer to work on a more general solution to brigading.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The funny thing about having to do something is that you only have to do something if you want something and his statement is perfectly valid in trying to identify what results in the best outcome for them and society at large. That's right, society at large. If you want to participate in a society, you have to learn how to be responsive to the constantly changing situation of that society.
Other politically correct forms of hate communities, such as done by man-hating feminists, are fine by reddit.
I'm impressed this is still going on, after all these years. Dedication.
Yes, but where are the cows?
Seriously. The sooner reddit offloads the massive amount of retarded, frontal lobe missing whiny 8th graders that make up the majority of site problems the better. They'll survive much as slashdot has - when it unloaded most all of ITS shitty frosty-piss goatse.cx shitbirds onto reddit. But please - keep crying about "Buh buh buh but r/IHATEJEWS is still there!!!! DOUBLE STANDARD!!! DOUBLE STANDARD!!!" Maybe the admins seriously don't know how much garbage is on there - I seem to remember everyone yelling the same thing about r/coontown when r/fatpeoplehate got the can. Now surprise surprise!
Here's an idea - open one of them new-fangled tab things in your favorite browser and type in www.google.com, or www.bing.com, or www.yahoo.com, or www.duckduckgo.com. Most all of these have a "news" button somewhere on them. Click it! Be amazed. In fact, they also have a "search" function as well. Type in your favorite racist theory - perhaps something like "Jews did 9/11". Links will appear! Click on those! BAzinga - you just found a new echo chamber for your mental problems. Reddit isn't the biggest news aggregation site in the world, Google is. learn to fucking internet. Or hell, just go back to /b.
Life is somewhat more complicated, and a mixture of things can result in a shadow bam.
Nobody forces you to read subreddits. You can subscribe to those you like and don't subscribe to those you don't like. If you don't like the defaults, you can unsubscribe from those, too (for example, they removed /r/atheism from a default subreddit and replaced it with /r/twoxchromosomes). If you're prevented form enjoying reddit, it's because you're an idiot.
Clippy pops up: "I see you're trying to ban a subreddit"
Making it less visible is not banning it.
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Pretty good summary. I made a comment on it and within the hour I had SRS harassing me along with somebody making a new account with a nearly identical username as mine.
Not really worth my time so I just deleted my account. They started threatening to "dox" me, but considering I currently use 6 different unrelated usernames for websites along with following the golden rule of never giving the internet personally identifiable information, they're going to have fun wasting their time.
In Warlizard's case (the guy who wrote the comment the GP reposted), he, talking about censorship, said that if reddit stands for "free speech" as they claim to, then no they shouldn't ban offensive subreddits like /r/rapingwomen.... SRS took the first part of that and ran with it, called him a "rapist," followed him around, harassing him, and leaving nasty reviews on Amazon of the books he's authored.
I had something very much like that happen on reddit a few years back. I forget the context, because the context was so amazingly innocuous. It was something like: Someone said of a suspected child rapist, "This guy doesn't deserve rights. He should just be dragged out into the middle of town and beaten to death." to which I responded, "No, obviously everyone should get a trial. We don't know what happened or what extenuating circumstances there might have been, which is why we have trials."
There was no response for a couple of hours, and then my inbox got flooded with people threatening me. I found that someone had responded to my post claiming that I was defending child molesters, and therefore must be one. The response was upvoted a couple hundred times, and there were a bunch of responses like, "Yeah, this guy is a piece of shit. How dare he defend child molesters."
The whole thing was so insane to me that I didn't even bother responding. I immediately deleted my account. It was one of those moments that makes me a little terrified of the Internet. I don't know exactly why my post became a target, whether someone linked to it on another subreddit or something, but I was pretty disturbed by the experience. I had the distinct feeling that if any personal information had been associated with my account, I would have been harassed and possibly assaulted in real life, simply because I made the mistake of advocating for due process and rule of law in a public forum.
Off being n00bs.
Like the last few purges of counter-narrative content, SRS continues to exist despite violating every rule in the book.
If you're an SJW, harassment/doxxing/etc. is encouraged - especially if it causes RL harm. Reporting it to the admins does nothing.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
ShitRedditSays is the worst thing that Reddit has come up with ever. It's a den of violent hypocrisy and hate -- promising nothing but the best intentions. The context is this: They are an active hate group. They are proud of being a hate group. They are defined by their hate.
Fuck them and fuck you for standing up for them. They deserve to be dragged out and beaten to death for what they do -- trying to terrorize and destroy the lives of people to satiate some sadistic pleasure in the name of the greater good. "Oh, but they do it through tha interwubs! That not as bad as ACTULALY attacking someone phyiscall!" -- Who gives a fuck? They center on the tool of cowards, but they try to terrorize and destroy the lives of people regardless, and incite violence against those that disagree with them. Turnabout is fair play, ugly fucks. Some day their hatred, lies, vitriol, and sadism will catch up to them.
He's feeling like reddit is picking and choosing which "harassing" subreddits are ok, and which aren't.
And the CEO (user "spez") has pretty much confirmed it (which of course means Reddit is NOT anti-harrassment, btw):
/. for remembering the censorship icon this time.
http://i.imgur.com/e5ZTdhl.png
So SRS is demonstrably violating the rules (hell, that's in its mission statement), yet admins make excuse after excuse about how they won't ban them. Does anyone think spez would spout this bullshit about "improving our own technology" if SRS didn't align with him politically?
This is exactly the problem the new Reddit regime. There effectively are no public, written rules, just whatever the admins feel like doing. Every vaguely worded "content policy update" is therefore rendered totally meaningless, and everyone (rightly) calls them out on it. Because they're obviously just trying to do away with any inconvenient transparent rules in favor of the secret, biased, politically- and monetarily-motivated ones they'd rather enforce (but can't admit to).
Props to
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Jailed, no.
Persecuted in the sense of losing one's job for being doxxed? Yes.
Murder through causing a suicide? Yes.
Arguably, Reddit is that serious.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Not-Safe-For-Work subreddits aren't the target, but Narrative Breaking subreddits are.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
The original post says exactly this:
The top voted comments on that thread, an interesting enough point that is not being dealt with in these last rounds of purges.
What thread? what is being dealt with?
What follows after is a long rambling post from reddit that doesn't explain anything at all.
So run your own white supremacist website. Don't cry when the people you inaccurately criticize don't give you exactly what you want, baby.
I'm impressed this is still going on
Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of these.
While she is naked and petrified?
Sometimes I miss the simpler times..
Nice try, but you needed more RACISM, CIS-SCUM, and of course it wouldn't be complete without TRIGGERED and SHITLORD.
Just do what I do, burn off an old account every 6-9 months. Then when you want to downvote some asshole for fun, you've got 20+ accounts you can do it from (make sure you space out the voting and do it from multiple IPs). Really pisses them off after a while. Good times.
Hear hear.
One of the most eloquent expressions of this came from (of all places) the founder of 4Chan, Chris Poole at a "Web 2.0" conference a few years back:
Source
"Mind, as manifested by the capacity to make choices, is to some extent present in every electron." -Freeman Dyson
A Beowulf Cluster of hot grits down your pants? Its never really gone away, just the people running the site now are burying this stuff like crazy. Or everybody has left this site.
I had a similar thing happen here on this site.
Some dude started stalking me around on conversations. Anything I would post on he did too. The funny thing was I agreed with his original point. But I was pointing out others might not like it. He *somehow* turned that into I didnt like it. Then started following me around wanting to argue about it.
That is why I now only post AC.
I have come across a few of these sorts of people over the years. They are off their rocker and want to be the only one who is right. Even if you agree with them. They need a boogy man to point at. They have picked you.
just ignore amimojo, the person obviously has a vested interested in reddit and srs specifically.
you're trying to explain something to someone who already knows fully what a crappy thing is that is going on but defends it anyway.
If you are a social justice warrior of their SRS board, you are authorized by Reddit management to dox, harass, libel, to anyone outside the SJW realm.
Any attempt to complain gets you banned with no way to defend yourself.
Basically it is the internet-lynch mob. Reddit management is aware of this and fully supports it.
I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
replying to a Reddit thread is sort of like getting between a bunch of transients yelling about the government outside a bus station. not really a surprise that they could be crazy and see you as the problem
If I own a restaurant or some other type of public establishment and people come in and have a discussion that is upsetting other customers I have a right to ask them to leave, correct? That is not censorship
Yes it is. It is fundamentally different from governmental censorship, but... jesus I don't know, let's just do a thought experiment here: Forum A removes posts that they deem offensive. Forum B allows pretty much all posts to remain (perhaps with user tagging and filtering or whatever.) If you really object to the word "censorship" to describe what Forum A is doing, then please provide us with an acceptable synonym. It doesn't matter where you fall in this debate; the thing we are debating *is*, in fact, a thing.
For my own anti-censorship $0.02 here, I would say that if we must live in a web dominated by walled gardens, it would be nice if we had at least one social network that had an absolutist free speech policy. But I understand that any advertiser-supported site is going to have an extremely hard time pulling this off.
The admins *ARE* SRS. That's their peeps, dude. Don't you get it?
Reddit was a piece of shit hipster site the moment it started, and it's no different today, I've never understood the appeal. I've even met people in real life who've ask if I know what Reddit it. I say "Yes, and I never used it. And anyone who does or has is a fag." Now I find it's hilarious that they've turned liberal; AKA Sucking big black dicks. And yes, sucking big black dicks is totally in line with liberal ideals of equity. I mean, why shouldn't men help out in sucking dicks the dicks too, don't you think women have a hard time having to do that all the time? Shouldn't forget the African Americans too, they need their dicks sucked too, it's the least a white man can do as a form of reparation. Before you know it, Reddit will host conventions in which big black dicks are competitively blown.
As a long time redditor myself, I've watched all of this with mild interest. There are at least 3 sides to this, and that's not counting the mods/users of the banned/quarantined subs (you can pretty much guess their position in any case). The Braveheart faction just wants everything to be free. Stop censoring me man. Live and let live. M'FREEDOM! These people are idiots. The largely shouted down (and thus usually silent) faction of Social Justice Warrior subs of which SRS is arguably the figurehead but which think that an internet forum that allows people to register, post, and comment anonymously should somehow be a "safe space" and that through cutting wit and calling out the evildoers that this can be achieved and change can be realized!. These people adopt the exact same tactics and attitudes of the hate groups in the process, which would be irony except its probably just a coincidence. These people are idiots. The admins and for the most part the moderators of most popular subs, that want to a) make money off these groups if at all possible and b) have them behave like rational human beings towards one another in the process. These people are idiots. Its a dumpster fire, but its fun to watch when there is nothing new on Netflix.
Translation: They don't care about doxing, brigading, and on or off-site harassment no matter how severe or how blatant as long as it's from people that pander to them politically.
See... this is why nobody takes your claims of "it's about equality!!!!11eleventyone" seriously, if you truly gave a single fuck about equality or opposing harassment and abuse you'd be all over reddit for having constantly enabled and excused SRS.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
In soviet russia, cluster beowolfs you.
Because it's the website's most prominent feminists, in charge of the collective "fempire" (their name) of subreddits, doing this in the name of feminism and social justice.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
You must be new here.
Prior to these lateet actions, visiting coontown required you to accept a pottal screen with an 18 and over age verification. The only way to get there was from the direct coontown url, or changing the mainpage filter to display all subreddits (ie not the standard default lists that new visitors are presented with). Why is everybody acting like this content was easily available on the default page? What need is there to gather email addresses?
I don't agree that this is censorship, as this is the doing of a private company. I do believe, however, that removing non pc talk from a site tbat claims to be the frontpage of the internet, creates a dangerous echo chamber. See how there are no dissenting opinions, that means everyone agrees with what is being said. Now the news can quote us and claim such things to force the same narrative.
Because it's the website's most prominent feminists, in charge of the collective "fempire" (their name) of subreddits, doing this in the name of feminism and social justice.
Yeah, here's the problem with that little special snowflake analysis of yours: before it was attacked by the SJW fempire, it was well-known as a bastion of sexists, racists, and other shitposting fuckheads. If you didn't want to be invaded by them, perhaps you shouldn't have waged war so impotently.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Because reddit is basically the slashdot of the next generation of web users.
Excuse me, that creaking sound you heard was me just dying of old age.
> if reddit stands for "free speech" as they claim to, then no they shouldn't ban offensive subreddits like /r/rapingwomen.
That's not what standing for something implies. Ironically, he's stating that his interpretation is the only one.
>Sound slike that is exactly what they are doing with the quarantine feature, where you have to explicitly opt-in to see the content.
And requiring a validated email so they can make a nice list of all the bad thinking people...
You all use those adjectives so interchangeably and so freely they've lost all meaning. Anyone that isn't participating in the witch hunt vocally enough gets slapped with all of those labels.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
People are being racist and horrible on your internet site. Get over it.
I am not obliged to build out and pay for a platform for the Aryan Nations. I am not obliged to accept the disruption of my site or the abuse of its readers to please the geek's perverted sense of free speech.
You all use those adjectives so interchangeably and so freely they've lost all meaning. Anyone that isn't participating in the witch hunt vocally enough gets slapped with all of those labels.
Good. Now the rest of Reddit gets to know what it feels like. I have no fucking sympathy for you whatsoever, because Reddit users already used those adjectives so interchangeably and so freely that they had no meaning... and they shit them all over Slashdot. Now we get to point and laugh as you have done to you what you've done to others. Maybe not you personally (maybe, though, for all I know) but it's what Reddit has come to be known for. No great loss.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
> The largely shouted down (and thus usually silent) faction of Social Justice Warrior subs of which SRS
> shouted down
> SRS
You are a moron.
To attack people they disagree with, and do it in a dishonest and cowardly manner.
Yes, the internet is like a HS popularity contest. It's ugly, it's deceitful, it's false, and you're a fool for valuing it at all.
Social media exists primarily to make people who are essentially worthless do-nothing pieces of shit feel good about being worthless do-nothing pieces of shit.
Lowest common denominator always wins. Look at the recent GOP "debate" if you doubt it.
I think the site's owners are getting ready to sell, much in the same way one readies a house before posting it on the market. This involves tossing out the rubbish, and cleaning everything before the Open House. Look at what happened with moot, 4chan and Gamergate. Moot sold off the site to another party, and now no longer runs it. But, to do that, he and the mods had to do some housecleaning.
Ban r/India;
They're the most racist people on Earth;
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Casteism