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Physical Books Successfully Coexisting With Ebooks

An anonymous reader writes: When ebooks experienced their meteoric rise a few years ago, many were predicting the death of physical books. Early sales figures seemed to bear that out — ebooks kept getting more popular, and physical books were on the decline. But over the past couple of years, sales for both types leveled off. Rather than simple additive or deleterious effects, we're now seeing how technology has altered the literary landscape in more complex ways. Serials are returning, authors are able to more directly keep in contact with readers, and networks are developing to keep independent bookstores afloat. Libraries are being supplemented by companies who offer free access to ebooks at certain Wi-Fi hotspots. So, given that the changes so far have been less dramatic and more interesting than predicted, where do you think the ebook/physical-book situation will be in another 10 years?

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  1. No change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    where do you think the ebook/physical-book situation will be in another 10 years?

    Exactly the same as today.

    1. Re:No change by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The obvious first market for ebooks has been anything you read sequentially, like novels. Ebook adoption climbs a hill for works you need to jump around in. That grease-thumbed reference book you keep beside your workbench will be the physical book's last stand.

      As the application interface improves for ebooks, some advantages of the medium will open up, such as the ability to search fast and to display complex, interactive charts. In a few years you will be able to have your reference ebook standing up on the workbench so that you can say, "Hey Siri! Play me the install sequence for the right front wheel motor starting from Step 4!"

      While we wait for that halcyon day, can we at least have the Kindle app give us a straight count of 'pages left in chapter' rather than trying to compute some mythical reading time?

    2. Re:No change by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

      The obvious first market for ebooks has been anything you read sequentially, like novels.

      Ebooks are great for new releases as they are generally a shade cheaper than the new hardbacks. E-books (and movie) prices are still wacky on older titles. On older titles, new paperbacks are usually cheaper than the ebooks and used books are considerably cheaper. Movies are even worse, sometimes I can buy the physical movie cheaper than I can rent the digital one. There are also no bargain bins for ebooks or resale value. I can buy a used book on amazon for $4, read it, and turn around and sell it for the same price I paid for it.

    3. Re:No change by afeeney · · Score: 1

      One of the main reasons ebooks sold so tremendously (in volume, not price) on Amazon in the first few years was the huge number of public domain books that were suddenly free for the downloading. There was also a big spike in volume and price from this being the next generation of a format, rather like CD sales were inflated during the first few years of their popularity because people were getting on CD what they previously had on LPs or cassettes.

      Where illustrations, graphs, tables, or seeing a page as a whole are important, physical books still have the advantage. I'd imagine that will last until there's a next-generation breakthrough in display.

    4. Re:No change by Jiro · · Score: 1

      Some of it is because the people digitizing the books are just clueless.

      There have been several cases where I specifically looked for a high resolution scan of a book from archive.org and did not get the Project Gutenberg one, because the Project Gutenberg one either did not include illustrations or included them in very low resolution. PG could include high res illustrations--they just don't, and in fact have guidelines which tell you to digitize the images at a resolution which is ridiculously low for today's retina tablets.

    5. Re:No change by jandersen · · Score: 1

      The obvious first market for ebooks has been anything you read sequentially, like novels. Ebook adoption climbs a hill for works you need to jump around in. That grease-thumbed reference book you keep beside your workbench will be the physical book's last stand.

      Possibly - but I think the reason why ebooks haven't taken over the world by now is more complex. One problem is that ebook readers only last for a short while, compared to a printed book. I have had a Kindle for about 18 months, and it is now broken: the dreaded screen failure that many have had already. By comparison, I can still read books that are 150 years old. Printed books are altogether more rugged - you can still use them even after having dropped then in your bath etc.

      The other nuisance for me has been the fact that an ebook is really hard to make notes on. That pretty much rules out using it for anything other than entertainment. Then there's the tie-in: it ought to be simple and easy to move your book over to your PC, change the format, print parts of it etc, but in order to do any of that, you have to commit a crime. All of which means that it is unworkable to use ebooks for any serious purpose.

      And then, of course, they all try to use the format to push all sorts of rubbish on you - like advertising, or turning your ebook reader into an entertainment gadget, as if the smartphone wasn't already filling that space. So they waste their time on that instead of trying to make an ebook reader that could really replace the printed book and even surpass its utility.

  2. Physical book? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2

    Physical book? What the hell is that? Do you mean an ebook you printed with your home printer?

    1. Re:Physical book? by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's no need to use a home printer nowadays. With the rise of ecommerce, you can order a nicely preprinted copy online and have it delivered!

    2. Re:Physical book? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      No, just go to the local maker space (remember, used to be a K-Mart?) and have them print you a printer that makes hard copies. Don't forget to stop by Whole Foods for the shade-grown lignin pellets.

    3. Re:Physical book? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      I still prefer physical books when it comes to technical references. It just seems easier to me to have a 3 dimensional object where I can see all my book marks and can thumb directly to the page I want.

      I prefer my pleasure reading to be in e-ink form. I like having an entire library of books in a single small device. Plus the backlight makes this the best low light reading option I have ever encountered.

      The only thing that needs to happen now is to get rid of the artificially high price of some e-books... publishers keep parity with paperback book on books they know they can get away with it on.... no suppy/demand determining the price... just "we got you over a barrel and we can exploit that" BS...

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    4. Re:Physical book? by Convector · · Score: 2

      And when it arrives, you should scan it, so that you can archive an electronic copy as a backup. That way, if you ever need to replace it, you can just 3D print the whole thing.

    5. Re:Physical book? by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      I prefer my pleasure reading to be in e-ink form.

      Not me. I often want my technical docs serarchable, because you can't grep a dead tree.

      However, when I'm doing leisure reading, I want old fashioned paper. When I'm on vacation I want to be able to sit by the pool with a mojito, and not have to worry about an electronic device getting killed by errant water (or rum), or worrying about the battery life.

      I can fall asleep and drop my book, and at worst I'll lose my place.

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    6. Re:Physical book? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      And when it arrives, you should scan it, so that you can archive an electronic copy as a backup. That way, if you ever need to replace it, you can just 3D print the whole thing.

      I always fax it to myself on blue paper.

    7. Re:Physical book? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      I often want my technical docs serarchable, because you can't grep a dead tree.

      It depends on how you want to search. I agree that for a pure reference work (particularly one you only refer to on occasion), an electronic version is often best.

      But for a reference work which I refer to frequently and/or which I tend to read larger sections of rather than just looking for the right paragraph about a particular term -- well, old-fashioned paper still wins hands down for me.

      Paper books are much more "browsable," and I'm much more likely to remember where I read something in a paper book, due to the consistent physical structure that can be referred back to. ("It was about 3/4 of the way through... and I remember the passage was on the upper-right corner below an illustration...") They're also quick and easy to annotate, dog-ear, etc. Yes, one can do these latter things with electronic books too, but it's not quite as flexible and dynamic as easily underlining something, circling something else, jotting a few words in the margin, and drawing arrows to an illustration or whatever. To do this with an e-book, I'd need to switch a bunch of different tools, and some of it may be impossible... with paper, I just grab a pencil and I'm good to go.

      I admit that a full-text search on books is awesome, but I mostly find it awesome for a book I'll only use once or twice and never care about again. For a book I want to refer to every day, a paper copy still has a lot of potential conveniences.

    8. Re:Physical book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, if only books had an index so you could refer to the page where a particular subject was discussed. Boy, that sure would be helpful.

    9. Re:Physical book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up! Spot on; books are becoming fast obsolete. I haven't read a touched a physical book in about 5 years now. I actually prefer books in e-book form now (PDF being my favorite). The Retina iPad and other high-res screens are amazing — so much more flexible than a book — and lighter! than a thick book. AND I can carry around a thousand books.

  3. I'll stick with the analog option for now ... by scunc · · Score: 1

    ... but if they ever made a Kindle with a scent cartridge that puffs out that "new book smell," I might be tempted to make the switch.

    1. Re:I'll stick with the analog option for now ... by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      ... vinyl still exists too. i predict something similar. ebooks will be ubiquitous, those seeking nostalgia/retro will still get books. physical paper will always have its proponents... but they'll slowly die off, and as generations come that don't know what that "new book smell" is, analog's market share will slowly but steadily dwindle.

    2. Re:I'll stick with the analog option for now ... by TWX · · Score: 2

      There's a difference though. At a minimum to use a vinyl record player I have to have electrical power, a record-player that's in good working order, and a record that's playable. This is basically the same set of considerations for playing any music recorded on to a physical medium that's machine-interpreted, be it CD, tape, player-piano, minidisc, phonograph cylinder, whatever, with the exception that there are a few mechanically-powered forms (phonograph disc, phonograph cylinder, and player-piano) where there are entirely mechanical machines that come with their own issues.

      To read a book I need the book, at least for approximately 50% of the day, and the other 50% of the day I'm stuck with the same constraints as I am for anything else in the form of the availability of artificial light.

      For e-book readers, depending on the reader, I need a power source to at least charge, and I need to connect the reader to another device (at least minimally a computer in the retailer if my e-book reader lacks any kind of network/wifi, but most likely a computer or wifi at home). For readers that go a VERY long time I still need a light source, or for readers that work in the dark I need to be able to replace or recharge batteries frequently.

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    3. Re:I'll stick with the analog option for now ... by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      yeah, but some people also swear by the sound quality of vinyl. which is something that books can't claim.

      it's about convenience too, a library in your hand, versus a single book. yes you need power, but i've also taken to reading off my phone. which, single device :)
      yay.

    4. Re:I'll stick with the analog option for now ... by TWX · · Score: 1

      yeah, but some people also swear by the sound quality of vinyl. which is something that books can't claim.

      Don't underestimate the feel of quality paper providing the right contrast between ink and page such that reading is very easy on the eyes and on the hands holding the book, the typefaces used in the book, and the kerning that an expert typesetter has chosen to make the printed page easiest to read.

      Granted, mass-market paperbacks and cheap hardcovers may not have as much attention to detail, but I've found that ebooks have a lot of problems with special formatting unless they've literally gone the route of PDF, at which case you lose the supposed advantages of scaling and such.

      The printed book also makes it very easy to access appendices. I read a fair amount of science fiction and fantasy. These works often come maps, and in multi-volume series they'll list characters and define technological terms so that the reader may easily figure out where they left off. None of the ebook readers that I have played with have had easy ways to use the appendices for these.

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    5. Re:I'll stick with the analog option for now ... by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      :)

      all soluble. When the demand picks up for these features i'm almost certain that ebooks will get them.
      same with the appendices... i'd assume there's a near-trivial solution to flipping to the appendices

      you might have a point about the physical feel, the page quality, the smell.

      but just as there are positives, there are negatives too.

      paper cuts
      the weight of a tome
      having only the coarsest control of lighting
      the smell... of a truly old and musty book.
      aging makes the paper brittle.
      too much use and your book starts falling apart.

  4. They can co-exist? by avandesande · · Score: 4, Funny

    I didn't think there was room in my bag for both en e-reader and a book!

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  5. eBooks strongly prefered... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    Especially when it comes to textbooks. I used to get complimentary teacher copies from publishers, and then you'd have to lug them around, bookmark them, etc. Now I get all of my textbooks via CourseSmart, which allows you to download them for free as long as you have a teacher account. It saves a ton of time, since I don't have to fill out forms and wait for a sales rep's approval., etc. Plus, if I want to find something in my book, cmd+f is much quicker than going to the index then flipping through pages.

    When it comes to reading, I have a Kindle Paperwhite. I didn't want to get a Fire, because then it would probably get used more for social media, gaming & watching videos. I wanted to make sure it was used for it's intended purpose, instead of spending hours wasting time on other things. I haven't used it as much as I would like, but the battery life on that thing is pretty amazing.

    There are times, however, when I just want to pick up a hard copy of a book. There's just something nostalgic about it.

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    1. Re:eBooks strongly prefered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not surprisingly, as I've been teaching, I've done the opposite. Fuck Cengage and their 3 minutes to get to the page online book. On the other hand, I can generally get within 2 pages in less than 3 seconds, and for class, I can put in 3 bookmarks for what I need in class and get to them in less than a second. And, it will stay open to the page I want until I turn off the office lights.

    2. Re:eBooks strongly prefered... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I just wish they would update the Kindle DX. I love mine and I really would love the backlight and newer tech screen.

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    3. Re:eBooks strongly prefered... by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I leave my Paperwhite in my car. When I go on lunch break I always take it into the restaurant with me and read while I eat. I find it a very enjoyable way to push all the work related crap out of my head for an hour. It's also very handy for travel. Given it's boring nature, according to the kids, I don't get harassed into letting others use it and the battery lasts forever.

  6. As a library patron, i dont see much change. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    E-Books are rentable from the library. even the hardware is rentable, so aside from a slight learning curve and different constraints on the total number of titles i can check out, the disruption proposed by e-books is minimal. things like library reservations or intra-library requests are also processed much more quickly, given the nature of the book being digital.

    Call me old fashioned, but there just isnt a valid replacement in my world for a physical book. If its a title i truly love, (hitchhikers guide, tolkien, etc...) I'll give sincere consideration to purchasing a copy for my personal bookshelf, but reaching for an e-reader on a rainy day still has no emotional context for me like a real book would. Ereaders are simultaneously more convenient and less convenient...leave one on a plane and its inexorably more expensive than buying a used copy online, but try taking your bookshelf with you everywhere you go. Theres no clear winner.

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    1. Re:As a library patron, i dont see much change. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      My library has the Overdrive ebook rentals too, but so far it has never stocked any book that I wanted.

    2. Re:As a library patron, i dont see much change. by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      funny you should mention Hitchiker's. i just bought the entire 5 book set from amazon for $3.99. the kindle version. dead tree books are triple that for catalog titles

    3. Re:As a library patron, i dont see much change. by jandrese · · Score: 1

      I'm currently reading A Clash of Kings via Overdrive. I also read the first four books of the Culture series, a Canticle for Liebowitz, the Forever War, the Martian (the waitlist was epic for this one--good thing it is a quick read), and the Hyperion Cantos.

      Amusingly, my library offers Game of Thrones in two formats: a 4 book set with the first 4 books of A Song of Ice and Fire, and a 5 book set that also includes the most recent one. I thought they were awfully optimistic about my ability to read all 5 books of A Song of Ice and Fire in 3 weeks.

      Overdrive has a couple of quirks. The first is that the "online reading" mode sucks ass. Never use it. Always download the book to your device. Trust me. The other is that renewals are handled somewhat awkwardly. The book still self destructs on your device and you have to download it again every time you renew. It does at least remember your place in the book when you do this.

      The best thing about Overdrive is that it is on my phone, so it is always with me. If I ever find myself with time to kill, I can just fire it up and read a few more pages. It's not quite as nice as a dedicated e-reader, but the convenience factor is huge. I liken it to the way cameraphones killed off point and shoot cameras. They aren't as good, but the convenience factor outweighs the downsides. How many times have you been stuck in a waiting area going "I should have brought a book"? Never again.

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    4. Re: As a library patron, i dont see much change. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I can buy the Hitchiker's books at a place like Half-Price Books for $3-5 per volume. When I have read them, other people can read them, too, for no additional cost. Physical books are a social thing. I buy a lot of used books; I own books that hundreds of other people had before me. EBooks are a dead end purchase. Your copy terminates with you, or often with your proprietary reading device. When a business decides to quit selling a particular title it ceases to exist for any further readers to acquire.

    5. Re:As a library patron, i dont see much change. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Almost identical to my own reading list, as it happens, except that mine was back in the days of print.

  7. Books and watches are in the same bag by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    I still wear the digital watch I acquired in 1994 because it never breaks, is completely waterproof and has a battery that lasts for months. Working in tech, I like to go off the grid whenever I can and items that don't require any recharging and are hard to break, like a good paperback book, a dependable watch, and a leatherman, are what I prefer.

    Same thing when I fly (minus the leatherman) - if you've ever been in a cheap plane with no chargers and you're delayed a few hours beyond the life of your cell and/or tablet battery, you'll learn to appreciate independently powered or no-power items like watches and books again.

    1. Re:Books and watches are in the same bag by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      To be fair, an e-reader lasts weeks on a charge. I very rarely (maybe never?) charge my old Kindle while on vacation - it certainly won't run out on the plane.

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    2. Re:Books and watches are in the same bag by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> e-reader lasts weeks on a charge

      Sorry, forgot about e-readers. I didn't realize those specialized tablets were still a thing.

    3. Re:Books and watches are in the same bag by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      If you want to read at the beach or at the pool, it's the only game in town.

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  8. Physical books are better by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    There are only a few cases when ebooks make sense.

    Where space is limited - such as on a long vacation.

    Where the book is really big and heavy.

    But when there are diagrams/maps in a book, the ebooks fail miserably.

    When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

    When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver.

    When I want to borrow/lend a book, ebooks make it too much trouble, but a paperback is easy.

    When I want to throw a book in a backpack, paperback wins.

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    1. Re:Physical books are better by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

      To be fair, if you drop your physical book in the tub, it won't fare much better than the eBook. Actually, the eBook would fare better in a sense since you would be able to view it from another device.

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    2. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When I want to read at night without the light on, so my wife can sleep, my Kindle is better.

      When I want to read in *any* low light condition, my Kindle is better (no shadows).

      When I want to read with one hand, my Kindle is better.

      When I don't want to have to fight the spine of a book because the margins are too small, my Kindle is better.

      When I want to look up the meaning of a word while I'm reading, my Kindle is better.

      When I want to search through the text of a book (who is that character again?), my Kindle is better.

      When a publisher uses a font that's too small (or too large) to read comfortably, my Kindle is better.

      I absolutely love physical books, and have loads of them. I agree that physical books are better in some circumstances (definitely lending and used book buying/selling, and reading in wet/"rough" conditions). But from my point of view, those are about the only cases where a physical book *does* make sense. It's fine for you to have an opinion ("There are only a few cases when ebooks make sense"), but you're presenting it as fact, when it is not. You prefer paper books, but the fact that you hold that opinion doesn't give it any special weight.

      My Kindle is about 0.25 inches wider than a mass market paperback and 0.25 inches *shorter* than one. It's obviously much thinner than all but a few mass market paperbacks. I routinely keep it in my pocket, and it's more comfortable than paperbacks I've kept there. It's certainly smaller than a trade paperback.

      You do have to be more careful with an ereader than a physical book, no doubt, but it's not like you have to treat them with kid gloves. I carry mine all over the place, and it's doing just fine (I've tossed it in backpacks, too). For me, at least, carrying the Kindle around causes no problems at all.

      Diagrams are hit and miss. I think it's clear they're superior in physical books, but they often look fine in ebooks. If diagrams are a big part of a book, then I'd definitely say an ereader is not the right choice (I usually read programming books physically, even if I do have an electronic copy, too).

    3. Re:Physical books are better by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

      And so do regular books for that matter.

      When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver.

      er, I read ebooks on my phone, which most definitely fits in my pocket better than any paperback.

      When I want to borrow/lend a book, ebooks make it too much trouble, but a paperback is easy.

      Easier than messaging them a link to my ebook library hosted on an old laptop in my closet?

      When I want to throw a book in a backpack, paperback wins.

      Yes, but then why would I want to throw my expensive reading device in a backpack when I can keep it in my pocket?

    4. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You get a funny-looking book and a funny story to tell when you take it from your shelf. You would not get the same effect from a dead electronic gizmo. Even if you insist on replacing the item, a the paper book is cheaper.

    5. Re:Physical books are better by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver.
      When I want to throw a book in a backpack, paperback wins.

      My Kindle fits as well in my pocket or backpack than most books, and it has 100+ books in the space of one.
      Also, on the road, I can and do read from my iPhone.

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    6. Re:Physical books are better by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "But when there are diagrams/maps in a book, the ebooks fail miserably.
      When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.
      When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver.
      When I want to borrow/lend a book, ebooks make it too much trouble, but a paperback is easy.
      When I want to throw a book in a backpack, paperback wins."

      1. Today's reader apps are mostly sequential, but some ebooks set up as apps of their own already offer interactive elements you can't even do on paper.
      2. Who reads in bathtubs?
      3. When I find myself unexpectedly waiting in line, it's never anywhere I have planned for and brought a paperback along. Instead, I whip out my phone, whereupon the Kindle app remembers where I left off on my tablet at home. I can knock off another chapter or two while you duck out to the car to get your paperback.
      4. I can borrow ebooks too now.
      5. Recently I did a 200-mile hike, and my tablet weighted less in my pack than just one of the doorstop novels I put on it. And I had it loaded with several of them.

    7. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh boy, that story about your wet book does sound like a rib tickler alright!

      Mental note: Invite Anonymous Coward to my next dinner party.

    8. Re:Physical books are better by ciaran2014 · · Score: 1

      When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

      And so do regular books for that matter.

      If I ruin a paper book, I've lost €10. An ereader is a bigger loss (and all the books that were on it? Or maybe you can download them again, I don't know, but the reader is expensive to ruin).

      Also, getting a little wet doesn't ruin a paper book, but can brick an ereader.

      For me, the advantage of a paper book is versatility. The worst case scenarios are minimal. Leave your paper book in the pub? Drop it? Going somewhere where charging is a problem?

      Yeh, there are advantages to ereaders, but good ol' paper is reliable.

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    9. Re:Physical books are better by ciaran2014 · · Score: 1

      2. Who reads in bathtubs?

      Lucky people.

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    10. Re:Physical books are better by jsrjsr · · Score: 1

      When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

      Hmmm... I read in the tub fairly often. Haven't drowned the Kindle yet!

      If you're that worried, put the ereader in a ziplock bag. (I don't bother even at hotel hot tubs. People are good enough about not splashing others.)

    11. Re:Physical books are better by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

      To be fair, if you drop your physical book in the tub, it won't fare much better than the eBook. Actually, the eBook would fare better in a sense since you would be able to view it from another device.

      Put the eBook reader in a big ziploc baggie. You can read in the tub without fear of damage. You can't do this with a dead tree book; too hard to turn the pages without opening the baggie.

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    12. Re:Physical books are better by swillden · · Score: 1

      Also, getting a little wet doesn't ruin a paper book, but can brick an ereader.

      Two words: Ziploc baggie.

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    13. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are only a few cases when a physical book makes sense.

      Where you want a really good copy you can be proud of.
      When you're going to be without power for weeks.
      When you can't carry your tablet/phone/ereader for some reason.
      If you're old and set in your ways and don't like"'them newfangled gadgets."

      When there are diagrams/maps in the book, ebooks are just fine, unless you have a lousy reader.

      When you want to read in the tub, a paperback is just as fragile as an ebook reader. I will concede, however, that if you drop your paperback in the tub, you're out the cost of one paperback, whereas if you drop your tablet/ebook reader in the tub, you're out potentially hundreds of dollars.

      When you want something that fits in your pants pocket, carry your smartphone and read on that.

      When you want to borrow/lend a book, I have two words for you. Apprentice Alf. (But you didn't hear it from me)

      When you want to throw a book in a backpack, carry your tablet instead.

      In addition:

      I can carry my entire ebook library on my tablet, so if I'm going on vacation I don't have to pick and choose which to bring with me. Try carrying your entire physical library.

      My tablet has a back light, so I can read in low light without needing a flashlight.

      My ebooks are all on my hard drive and get backed up regularly. What device I choose to read them on is irrelevant, so even if my tablet gets lost or stolen, I get to keep my library. Try backing up your physical library.

      I can even back up my library in the cloud, so if I forget to bring my "book" with me, all I need is a computer with internet access and I can download my library. Try downloading one of your physical books that you left at home.

      I can run my ebooks through a text-to-speech program and listen to them instead of reading them, if I so choose. Granted, the quality isn't all that great, but try "listening" to your physical books.

      If the font is too small for my eyes, both my ebook reader and my tablet will allow me to increase the size. If you want to increase the font size on a paper book, you're going to need to carry an extra device: a magnifying glass.

      My ebooks have full text search. Some, but not all, physical books have an index, but you're limited to just the terms the author/publisher thought were relevant, plus the search takes much longer.

      I use Calibre to organize my ebook library, so it's trivial to find books I want. I can sort on author, title, series, tag, or whatever other piece of data I feel like. With physical books, you're limited to one sort. Try changing the sort order on your physical library. Go ahead. I dare you.

      Reading a paperback book requires you to hold the page open. It's admittedly not a lot of work, but that nearly constant exertion over possibly hours can get really annoying, especially for an activity that's supposed to be relaxing. And if your hands slip, you've lost your place. With an ebook reader, you can just sit the thing in your lap or on a desk. Hands-free except when turning the page.

      When I'm having conversations with my friends about books we've read and we want to check something from the book, I can pull out my tablet (which I always keep with me) and look it up right there. Try doing that with your physical books, assuming you don't know ahead of time which book you're going to discuss.

      And those are just the advantages I can think of off the top of my head.

      Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of areas where physical books excel. I just think it's disingenous to so flippantly dismiss ebooks simply because they don't align with the way you read books. For some people, paper books are the clear winner. For others (like me), ebooks are the clear winner. And you know what? That's okay. There's nothing wrong with them coexisting.

    14. Re:Physical books are better by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      There are only a few cases when ebooks make sense.

      One more case for you: when the bookshelves in your house are filled to overflowing, and the attic is getting pretty full of books too.

      Which situation I reached five or six years ago. I no longer buy dead-tree books because I don't have a place to keep them....

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    15. Re:Physical books are better by ciaran2014 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like time to bring a few boxes to the second hand or charity bookshop. (Another advantage of paper books.)

      I like my personal book collection but there's only so many books you can expect to re-read or want to check something in in one lifetime.

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    16. Re:Physical books are better by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      "But when there are diagrams/maps in a book, the ebooks fail miserably."

      Can't zoom paper.

      "When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail."

      No water proofing solution for paper also allows turning the page without opening.

      "When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver."

      The same content as an ebook can be provided in an arbitrarily small format.

      "When I want to borrow/lend a book, ebooks make it too much trouble, but a paperback is easy."

      Actual problem for ebooks. 1 out of 5.

      "When I want to throw a book in a backpack, paperback wins."

      Again, an ebook can be provided in an arbitrarily small format and with arbitrary ruggedness.

      So of your 5 failings of ebooks, 4 are actually advantages of ebooks.

    17. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm trying to imagine what size pocket would fit a trade paperback but not a tablet. Nope, not happening. So unless you're only reading stuff in MM paperbacks ...

      But let's face it, this is the same list that's always trotted out. The reality is that for novels and other basic linear narratives, where the book is mass-market, ebooks are more convenient than paper books.

      If there's any special layout or format (verse, charts, diagrams, maps, drama, etc.), dead tree is better.

      And who the hell reads a book in the tub? Really?

    18. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add..
      Books don't crash
      they need little care
      they are excellent for making risers
      they sequester carbon
      they will outlast the internet, so good for historians
      they do not require any internet use to buy nor deliver
      if you pay in cash, internet corps and government don't automatically know
      buy a book locally and help local employment
      walk to the bookstore and improve your cardio
      move house and improve your cardio
      put a big picture book on your coffee table, watch your visitors thumb through it and have an interesting conversation
      better resale value

    19. Re:Physical books are better by jandrese · · Score: 2

      When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver.

      What kind of e-reader are you using? A regular size Kindle is way thinner and about the same size otherwise as a typical paperback. It is also quite a bit lighter. Even if you put a protective case on it, the thing will still be no less portable than a dead tree book.

      I read most of my ebooks on my phone, which obviously fits in my pocket just fine.

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    20. Re:Physical books are better by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      Leave your paper book in the pub? Drop it?

      Do you frequently drop your phone or leave it in the pub? Because your phone is literally an e-reader (there are a wide variety of both android and apple apps that can handle every ebook format out there).

      Going somewhere where charging is a problem?

      My phone runs for 2 days without charging if I conserve battery. It can run for much much longer if I bring along my 15000maH external battery (or if I feel like travelling light, my 3500maH external, which is the size of a thing of lipstick). In absence of batteries, I can roll it up in my 15 watt solar panel. The combined weight of phone+solar panel or phone+battery is probably equivalent in weight and volume to that of a medium sized paperback.

      As for your concerns about privacy, you're posting on a site for nerds and telling me you don't know how to strip the DRM to make yourself backup copies that can be read them on a device not controlled by amazon/B&N/{giant corporation}? If I lose my reading device (primarily my phone, though I do have an old rooted nook color running CM7 if I want a bigger screen), it's no big deal as far as the ebooks that I own are concerned. It's all backed up on my server, which is accessible to me from anywhere with a network connection. In fact, I'd be more worried about permanently losing my extensive collection of paper books. Unlike my ebooks, my paper books don't exist as multiple copies across multiple locations, so one good fire/flood/natural disaster and they're gone.

    21. Re:Physical books are better by ciaran2014 · · Score: 1

      Do you frequently drop your phone or leave it in the pub?

      No, but my phone fits in my pocket. I've usually a pocket for a small-ish paperback, but not for an e-reader.

      As for your concerns about privacy, you're posting on a site for nerds and telling me you don't know how to strip the DRM to make yourself backup copies

      Probably could, but I just don't see enough advantages to give an e-reader a try. And I don't like funding companies that use DRM since, even if I can get around it, I know most people can't/won't.

      so one good fire/flood/natural disaster and they're gone.

      Possible, but I don't think I know anyone to whom any of those things has ever happened.

      But losing a phone is something that's happened me three times in twenty years.

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    22. Re:Physical books are better by ciaran2014 · · Score: 1

      I'm trying to imagine what size pocket would fit a trade paperback but not a tablet.

      Lots! My back pocket is wide enough for a paperback or a tablet, but one bends, the other would break.

      There are some paperbacks that are really big. I don't grab one of those when leaving the house.

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    23. Re:Physical books are better by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of places that sell DRM free ebooks. Also, what part about using your phone to read ebooks did you miss? At the very least it'll free up a pocket.

      The fact that you're using these weak arguments as justification to avoid even trying ebooks makes you come across as a total luddite. Just admit you don't like these scarey newfangled electronics and stop grasping at straws to try and justify paper over electronic for general book consumption.

    24. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, what part about using your phone to read ebooks did you miss?

      I carry a small-screen phone. I've always had a book in my pocket, and that works great for me.

      I own a smartphone but I leave it at home and just use it for testing my web dev work.

      Yeh, I'm concerned about the amount of data that companies are harvesting about everyone's life, so when I've two options and one involves being tracked by a company, I usually choose the other option. (But I give in sometimes, for example I carry a mobile phone.)

    25. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver."

      Gotta disagree with ya there, buddy. I read tons of stuff on my iPhone 6 Plus, and it fits just fine in my pants pocket.

    26. Re:Physical books are better by Raenex · · Score: 1

      Sounds like time to bring a few boxes to the second hand or charity bookshop. (Another advantage of paper books.)

      I think its' a bigger advantage to take up virtually no space and be able to keep all your books. I've got dozens of physical books, and one day when I get around to it I'm going to scan them all in and ditch the physical copies.

  9. Different does not mean excluding... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
    eBooks are a different way to engage with a book than a paper-based book. It is no surprise that eBook sales are leveling off now that the novelty of an eBook is behind us.

    .
    It should also be no surprise that paper-based books are still in demand. Some people, like myself, prefer to read a paper-based book instead of an eBook.

    Aside from the privacy concerns about eBooks (e.g., I don't want the publisher "looking over my shoulder" and taking notes of what pages I read more than once or what pages I skip) I just don't like the "feel"of eBooks as I read them. Not one eBook has duplicated the experience of reading a paper-based book for me. Reading an eBook is an entirely different experience, and that is why I think both will co-exist.

    1. Re:Different does not mean excluding... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      You're right - physical books are cheaper to replace than a Kindle. I know this first hand since my dog has eaten several of my physical books, and also one Kindle.

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    2. Re:Different does not mean excluding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the dog left your homework alone?

    3. Re:Different does not mean excluding... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      Well it depends on how broadly one interprets your question - she did, at one point, eat a calculator.

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  10. Books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... don't require electricity and you don't have to worry about 'breaking' your book.

    1. Re:Books... by xmousex · · Score: 1

      as long as the sun is up and you are outside.

      ebooks on tablet benefit from being their own light source.

  11. Used books often less expensive than the ebook by AntronArgaiv · · Score: 1

    This is true with older books, from my experience with Amazon. Even when shipping is included, a used book can be had for under $10, while the Kindle version is often $10 or more...

    1. Re:Used books often less expensive than the ebook by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Thank you for reminding me about used books. I'm going on a cruise soon and wanted a nice, geeky book to bring along. I had a good book picked out but then saw that the Kindle version was $4 and the paperback version was $13.50. I didn't want to have to bring my Kindle along (reading on my phone would stink in the bright light) but I also don't want to spend three times more for a physical book that I might read once and be done with. I just checked Amazon and there's a used copy for $5 and free 2 day Prime shipping. (There were cheaper copies, but they wouldn't arrive before I leave for my cruise.)

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    2. Re:Used books often less expensive than the ebook by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2

      Amazon lists dozens (for me at least) of books for $0.01+$3.99 shipping from third parties. It has been a long time since I've bought new book and read maybe 20/year. They make great gifts too when you are done.

    3. Re:Used books often less expensive than the ebook by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Not just used books. I can go to costco and find decent new books for way under the list price. This versus the eBook which is almost always full price.

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    4. Re:Used books often less expensive than the ebook by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      They had those listings for the book I was looking at too. Unfortunately, in this case, time is a factor. The book won't help me if the estimated arrival day is a week after I leave for my cruise. So I went with a slightly more expensive used book that will arrive in 2 days. In the future, though, I'd have no problem buying the "$0.01 + $3.99 shipping" book from a third party.

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    5. Re: Used books often less expensive than the ebook by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I bought a science fiction paperback earlier this week used, but priced higher than the cover price. It was on the clearance shelf for one dollar but since it was printed in 1965 the cover price was 75 cents.

  12. It's almost like..... by genner · · Score: 1

    It's almost like publishers are artificially keeping ebook prices high enough so that real books can compete.

    1. Re:It's almost like..... by gfxguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You're being sarcastic, right? That's exactly what they're doing, and they are lying through their teeth when they claim it costs just as much to publish an e-book, and all the people supporting the companies by claiming it costs just as much because of editing are either lying or stupidly buying the nonsense the book companies are selling.

      E-books are great for a lot of reasons - I have shelves of physical books at home that I have no idea what to do with; libraries don't want them (they have too many of these kinds of books that our kids are reading, they have enough); you can't sell them at garage sales (nobody buys them), you can't donate them to the school (they don't want to be overwhelmed with everybody's used books - they get enough). I can sell them to the used book store for credit, but now I have hundreds of dollars in credit and they have few things I want... I can't use the credit on new books.

      E-books let me:

      • Keep them forever and reread them years in the future without having to take up physical space.
      • While looking up things in physical text books is easier, my kids have 2 or 3 really huge books that they carry around all day and have to bring home, so having the physical book at home and taking an e-book to school would be great.
      • Take my whole library on vacation.
      • Theoretically should never go out of print.

      Physical books:

      • Don't violate my rights to resell them.
      • I don't get screwed if I somehow lose my Amazon or Barnes and Noble accounts.
      • Are nice to hold while reading, and don't need batteries.
      • Can be lent indefinitely to as many people as I want.
      • Textbooks are easier to use this way; any reference book is easier to use this way, although reference books (where you look something up) should rather be turned into apps in the future that allow for easier searching.

      As it is, with the absurd pricing of e-books, it often makes more sense to buy the physical book. The publishers are %#king 4$#holes.

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  13. It was said best in Buffy the Vampire Slayer by HannethCom · · Score: 1

    Jenny Calendar: Honestly, what is it about them that bothers you so much?

    Giles: The smell.

    Jenny Calendar: Computers don't smell, Rupert.

    Giles: I know. Smell is the most powerful trigger to the memory there is. A certain flower, or a-a whiff of smoke can bring up experiences long forgotten. Books smell musty and-and-and rich. The knowledge gained from a computer is a... it, uh, it has no-no texture, no-no context. It's-it's there and then it's gone. If it's to last, then-then the getting of knowledge should be, uh, tangible. It should be, um, smelly.

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  14. e-books are great while flying by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    because no one can tell you're reading Dick and Jane, Mein Kampf, or the Koran.

    1. Re:e-books are great while flying by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      This is a factor I have never seen mentioned in the whole discussion of physical books vs ebooks. How many additional sales of would-I-want-to-be-seen-reading-this-on-the-train books are we seeing now that they come in ebook form?

    2. Re:e-books are great while flying by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      You mean like The Kindle Flare.

  15. Wonderful DRM misfeatures by Microlith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I can buy ebooks without respect to region, I'll hop on board. But as it stands, I can't buy books published outside my home country, and as we've seen in the past, if you take your ebooks outside the country and your reader goes on line (particularly the Kindle) it'll lock you out of your books.

    On top of that, the ebooks cost more than the paperback.

    Get back to me when obvious negatives aren't being piled on to ebooks.

    1. Re:Wonderful DRM misfeatures by dwpro · · Score: 2

      I've never had a problem overseas with my books being region locked, and I can't imagine that's a huge problem. You can download unencumbered books from all over the place, or rip them and strip the DRM if it bothers you which has the added benefit of being able to share books more easily :)

      Rarely have I ever seen the price of an e-book be as much as a paperback (but e-books are still overpriced in my mind).

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    2. Re:Wonderful DRM misfeatures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I can buy ebooks without respect to region, I'll hop on board. But as it stands, I can't buy books published outside my home country, and as we've seen in the past, if you take your ebooks outside the country and your reader goes on line (particularly the Kindle) it'll lock you out of your books.

      On top of that, the ebooks cost more than the paperback.

      I buy a hard copy of the book and then I feel it is entirely fair use to make a "backup" digital copy, which is what I actually read.

      I think we all agree the prices of the digital books are inflated; one of the reasons for this inflation is the (pointless, obstructive, useless) DRM on them. Of course they're infinitely easier to create and print and serve than an actual hard copy book. So I feel little guilt about the price difference.

    3. Re:Wonderful DRM misfeatures by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 1

      I have a job with 100% travel, and this never happened to me. In fact I bought the kindle because I can be in Ho Chi Minh and still easily find the latest English language releases. In fact, I've been all over the world with my Kindle (North America + Europe + Asia + a bit of Africa) and was AMAZED that I've literally always had access to the free 3G

  16. eBooks will continue to gain market share by iceperson · · Score: 1

    The vast majority of avid readers I know love eBooks. Most of the luddites who drone on and on about the feel, smell, whatever, of physical books can't even tell you a book they've read in the past 6 months...

    1. Re:eBooks will continue to gain market share by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The majority of "avid readers" I know read nothing but garbage like "The Hunger Games." They couldn't read a Stendhal or Pynchon if their lives depended on it, because their attention spans have been completely decimated by electronic distractions. But you know what? Reading is a visceral experience. How you feel about the material IS important.

      That said, I find your ironically unscientific argument in disagreement with my own personal observations. Most readers I know prefer physical material. And so do I.

      By the way, the last book I read (which was last week) was a collection of Joseph Conrad stories. And I'm currently reading One Hundred Years of Solitude (which I wouldn't get on a pad or phone or any other communication device for the sheer irony of it).

    2. Re:eBooks will continue to gain market share by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      There's no book nostalgia like the smell of leather-bound editions you have never bought in your life read before the baronial fireplace you have never owned.

    3. Re:eBooks will continue to gain market share by iceperson · · Score: 1

      The majority of "avid readers" I know read nothing but garbage like "The Hunger Games." They couldn't read a Stendhal or Pynchon if their lives depended on it, because their attention spans have been completely decimated by electronic distractions.

      Most readers I know prefer physical material. And so do I.

      Well, which is it?

    4. Re:eBooks will continue to gain market share by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I certainly meant that most "real" readers I know prefer reading the physical version of a book, but for the record there's no contradiction if I explicitly stated all readers. Honestly, I don't know what all readers prefer; nor do I care.

    5. Re:eBooks will continue to gain market share by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Conrad? That Victorian style of writing makes me want to poke my eyes out.

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    6. Re:eBooks will continue to gain market share by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In that case, might I suggest the audio version? There's no substitute for the medium in the face of a real disability.

    7. Re:eBooks will continue to gain market share by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      There's no book nostalgia like the smell of leather-bound editions you have never bought in your life read before the baronial fireplace you have never owned.

      And yet... I'll admit to loving old-fashioned bound books. I own some leather-bound books (not a lot -- I'm not really a collector of the leather editions or anything), and there actually is something nice about a well-made book, typeset clearly on quality paper.

      I'm not a baron (nor rich), but I do have a fireplace, and yes -- I do sit by it frequently in the winter on a leather armchair with a good book and a glass of scotch. The "leather-bound" aspect of the book is not necessary, but a physical book of some sort *IS* much nicer in the firelight than a glowing screen of a tablet or whatever.

      (Actually, well the fire, the comfy chair, and obviously the scotch are really the best parts...)

  17. Future of Books and eBooks by QuestorTapes · · Score: 1

    >> Serials are returning, authors are able to more directly keep in contact with readers

    On reason for the uptick in serials is the lack of delay with e-books. I can read an already published serial, see how the first book is, then at 10PM, when I finish the first, immediately download the next in the series, starting to read it right away. Compare that to waiting for the bookstore to be open, finding it or placing an order, then waiting for them to receive it and picking it up from them. Two minutes versus one day versus a few weeks.

    Sometimes a hardcopy is better; certainly it is easier to use alongside a keyboard when writing something; but as noted, the ability to have my whole library in the palm of my hand is a huge point in e-book's favor.

    And the list of available works keeps growing, both in e-book formats like MOBI and EPUB, and also audio books as well. I think that pressure to compete will carry over to hardcopy as well, fording publishers to adapt to printing on-demand copies.

    As far as keeping in contact with the author, it is generally easier if the author is e-book savvy. For a lot of earlier authors, email and other communication went to the publisher or assistant or secretary, and the authors didn't/couldn't respond quickly. Now, many of them do and can. E-books won't kill hardcopy; but it will prune the low-hangers that should be pruned, and clear the way for an improved publishing process in time, getting rid of some geographic restrictions on publishing and distribution, and improving the quality of editing and galley review.

    1. Re:Future of Books and eBooks by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      On reason for the uptick in serials is the lack of delay with e-books. I can read an already published serial, see how the first book is, then at 10PM, when I finish the first, immediately download the next in the series, starting to read it right away.

      One evening I finished a book and then had to drive to five different bookstores before I found one that had the sequel in stock. By the time I got home, it was too late to start reading the book, because I had to go to bed. Talk about a frustrating experience.

  18. Why I Still Buy Physical Tech & Science Books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - I can easily write in them or make notes in the margins
    - I find flipping through and jumping back & forth between pages more intuitive than any ebook
    - I can bookmark, tab, and divide them how I want
    - Print is always better after long hours of study

  19. Yeah, right by 0123456 · · Score: 1

    And where are these numbers coming from?

    Amazon, to the best of my knowledge, does not release ebook sales numbers. Amazon sells the majority of ebooks in America, though I've no idea whether that's true elsewhere. That alone means any sales numbers are suspect, at best. Yes, trade published might report their own sales, but that ignores all the indie-published books that make up a large fraction of those Amazon sells.

    Personally, my main reason for buying print books in the last couple of years is quite simple: trade publishers keep releasing ebooks at a higher price than the paperback. So I buy the paperback instead.

  20. A Book is an Artifact, an E-book is data. by Irick · · Score: 2

    Are art museums going to go out and replace all of their exhibits with HDPI IPS displays? No. The displays may be far more versatile but they also do not embody a work. They simply display it. A printed book both contains and embodies the contained text. That simple visceral realness of holding an artifact contributes not only to our willingness to step into the magic circle of the book but signals the beginning of a cultural ritual.

    Reading is a form of magic that is wholly contained within our culture. Ebooks are yet another step in democratizing the cultural ritual and print on demand publication will provide the methodology to fully entrench these new pieces of culture within the canonic regalia. In ten years the significance of the printed word will not fade even as access becomes more and more trivial because they are canonic to the medium itself. They are inherently part of how we understand all written language in the same way that a live performance is inherently part of how we understand music (even principally electronic musicians engage in the ritual of live music).

    Authors go on book tours and connect with their reader base in other ways but the single most defining ritual in the whole of literature has been the receipt of a book. As we go forward this will always be a landmark of success as well as an important if not centrally defining artifact of the medium.

    Photography did not displace painting, it displaced the cultural focus on realism in painting. It displaced painting as a medium of simple depiction of the natural world and instead brought a greater implicit understanding of visual composition and other fundimntal principles of art into the every day culture. Likewise, I think that as ebooks become more and more accessible we will see /more/ veneration for the printed medium, perhaps in ways that were previously reserved only for bibliophiles.

    The cultural acceptance of technology that is simultaneously legitimized as a medium for art and developed into a nearly risk free scratch pad for personal exploration has historically brought a wider and deeper appreciation. It happened once with the desktop publishing revolution and I believe as people begin to ask themselves /why/ they prefer the printed word over the ebook a deeper understanding of the artistry of the medium will develop.

    I think it already has to a degree.

    1. Re:A Book is an Artifact, an E-book is data. by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Don't conflate art, which is all about presentation, to literature, which is about content. A literary masterpiece remains a literary masterpiece whether it's printed on paper or is digital data in a simple text file. Whether someone can appreciate it only in one form or another says more about the person than the work itself.

      Oddly enough, nowadays, the digital copy is probably a closer representation of the author's original creation than a published book. Few modern authors actually use a typewriter or write their manuscripts longhand. Why then, would a printed copy of an electronic manuscript be considered more genuine? Even the painting on the cover was likely a digital creation to begin with.

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    2. Re:A Book is an Artifact, an E-book is data. by Irick · · Score: 2

      It is not a conflation to call an art art, nor is it inappropriate to use more than one interpretive lens. We shouldn't ignore the critical developments of the last hundred years just because the medium predates it. Authorial intent is one lens, but art is not just about expression it is also about interpretation. This is the ritual of language and of semiotics.

      Does a dimestore paperback change the reading of a book compared to a leatherbound copy? I'd argue that it does. Does an e-book? Absolutely. Just as the mode of listening to a song changes from concert to radio to album so can the mode of reading a book. Cultural context will always inform interpretation.

      That's not to say that the choices of the typesetter, editor or proofreader takes away from the vision of the author. We could borrow from film's Auteur theory :3 A line from The Tell-Tale Heart is still a line from The Tell-Tale Heart whether or not it is represented on a screen, the pages of a book, the foreground of a painting or put on needlework on a throw pillow. However, would you read them the same in each instance?

      What if it was a caption under the picture of a cat?

      I would argue that a physical book is enough of a cultural context switch to be both meaningfully different and yet the same. As I equally enjoy Pink Floyd's money as a single or as part of an album, I also know that it is substantially different to me in each listening.

  21. Oh the humanity! by lq_x_pl · · Score: 2

    It is always comical to read the back-and-forths over topics like this. There are benefits and drawbacks of each medium, but arguing over which one is better is like arguing over which flavor of jam is superior.

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    1. Re:Oh the humanity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It is always comical to read the back-and-forths over topics like this."

      I completely agree. It's an absolute joy to read the poetry put together about how the smell of the book, or the feel of the rough paper pages along your fingers, cannot be replaced by the robotic nature of an electronic book. Coupled with the itemized lists of reasons while an e-book is more convenient, environmentally friendly, etc.

      When it comes down to it, it's not nearly as "deep" I think as people like to make it out to be. I prefer a physical book. You prefer an e-book. Sometimes we each stray from that preference for various reasons. Everybody is unique.

      But it's still fun to read about how much more involved the difference is.

    2. Re:Oh the humanity! by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      I don't really see anyone arguing... just discussing the merits and drawbacks of one format vs another. I think most people have long since made their peace with the fact that e-books are here to stay, while a number of people will continue to purchase and enjoy physical books.

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  22. 2 big reasons: DRM and privacy! by ciaran2014 · · Score: 1

    Amazon can't remotely delete my paper book!

    And paper books don't phone home to tell Amazon (or whoever) what I'm reading, which page I'm on, what notes I've made, what books I've downloaded...

    (Don't know how I forgot about this in my previous post. I guess you take them for granted with paper books.)

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  23. Re:Why I Still Buy Physical Tech & Science Boo by gfxguy · · Score: 2

    Your reasons are all good, but there's a few caveats for a lot of other people. My kids don't buy their textbooks in high school, so they aren't writing in the margins or making notes. They also have to carry them around ALL DAY (the lockers are not satisfactory), and my son's latest books are as big as the biggest physics books I had in college.

    What I wish they could do is have them as e-books while in school and leave the huge, physical book at home. The school offers "online" textbooks, but the stupid school has a mixed message about using tablets in school, and doesn't even give them wifi access when they can (and no, I don't pay for cell access for their tablets). For the same reasons (mixed message on tablets) my daughter prefers a physical book even for regular reading, because she can carry it around and read it anywhere. My son is happy enough to leave the reading for home, so gets e-books.

    But on the whole, text and reference books are simply different... again, a single e-reader is a damn site better than carrying around 2 or more huge textbooks, but for doing homework or something, having the physical book there is nice.

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  24. On the other hand... by jsrjsr · · Score: 1

    In the four years I've had my Kindle, my purchases of physical books has plummeted to near-zero. I used to visit a bookstore at least once a week. Right now, I cannot remember the last time I was in one. Last weekend, my wife asked me if I wanted to go to the mall -- she said I could hit the bookstore and then wait for her in the food court. I didn't go.

    1. Re:On the other hand... by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      anything i want to remotely consider reading i dump into goodreads and an amazon wishlist. then i import the wishlist to ereaderiq.com and wait for the price drop emails. a few times a month i will sort the list on amazon and either buy something on impulse at any price or buy something on the cheap end. works great with kid's books too. i just bought half a dozen for $1.99 each compared to $5 or more at barnes and noble

  25. 100+? by jsrjsr · · Score: 1

    Mine has over 300 right now.

  26. Perfect world? by jon3k · · Score: 1

    Ebooks should be free with the purchase of the physical book.

  27. Jury is out by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    Until eBooks reflect their true price considering lack of cost to distribute and print, I'm not sure how you can say they are 'coexisting'. eBooks often exceed the cost of their physical books.

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  28. Bent text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just can't go back to bound books anymore. I now just dread the experience of reading a book along the bend of the page near the center. How could I put up with it for decades? Give me an ebook any day and I'll de-DRM it and save it in my virtual library that is always on me.

    1. Re:Bent text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give me an ebook any day and I'll de-DRM it

      DRM is easy to remove today because they know only a small percentage of people will do it and they're still trying to grow their market share. When they want the DRM to be much more hassle to remove, they'll do the necessary.

  29. In other news by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    In other news, you can still buy buggy whips, dial-style telephones, and vinyl records, too.

    Nostalgia and straight-up Luddite-like behavior are enough to keep almost anything going at some level -- no matter how low its actual utility as compared to more recent replacement tech may be.

    Hell, I own a vacuum tube stereo system made by Scott in the 1950's -- my father bought it when it was new, it's been with the family ever since, and now it is mine. I'm really quite fond of it in the "I actually use it" sense, though considered in the light of my home theater system, it's neither particularly functional or particularly high quality (though in its day, it absolutely was The Shite.) Still, it glows in the dark in a most pleasing manner. :)

    I keep it in my office and enjoy listening to it regularly. My physical book collection, however... several thousand volumes... in boxes in the basement. I am a total convert to e-books. Textbooks, fiction, reference material... all right in my pocket, 100% accessible 100% of the time in 100% of the places I go (unless I'm diving or swimming, but hey. And I could get a waterproof, good to X-depth case for my phone, and then... :)

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    1. Re: In other news by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      You should pass on your book collection to somebody who would appreciate it. Those books will deteriorate in the basement.

    2. Re: In other news by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

      My basement is climate-controlled -- humidity and temperature -- so no worries there. If I run into anyone who wants the textbooks here, I'll gladly hand them over. Might be a long wait, though. Small rural town. Football trumps engineering by quite a bit here. :)

      The SF collection is a business asset, so it stays. But it stays in boxes for now.

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    3. Re:In other news by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      In other news, you can still buy buggy whips, dial-style telephones, and vinyl records, too.

      Nostalgia and straight-up Luddite-like behavior are enough to keep almost anything going at some level -- no matter how low its actual utility as compared to more recent replacement tech may be.

      Hell, I own a vacuum tube stereo system made by Scott in the 1950's -- my father bought it when it was new, it's been with the family ever since, and now it is mine. I'm really quite fond of it in the "I actually use it" sense, though considered in the light of my home theater system, it's neither particularly functional or particularly high quality (though in its day, it absolutely was The Shite.) Still, it glows in the dark in a most pleasing manner. :)

      I keep it in my office and enjoy listening to it regularly. My physical book collection, however... several thousand volumes... in boxes in the basement. I am a total convert to e-books. Textbooks, fiction, reference material... all right in my pocket, 100% accessible 100% of the time in 100% of the places I go (unless I'm diving or swimming, but hey. And I could get a waterproof, good to X-depth case for my phone, and then... :)

      No not nostalgia,
      I can read copy of the latest Dresden Files book while outside while walking my dog and not have to turn up the screen brightness to read in the sunlight then run out of battery.
      I don't worry about Amazon deciding to delete copy of 1984 because I bought my copy from a publisher from New Zealand. - see Amazon 1984 deletion débâcle.
      I can also loan my a my copy of A Canticle for Libowitzs to my sister to read without being sued for sharing.
      I can underline highlight annotate without having to illegally break the DRM the publisher decided to "protect" my copy of my textbook with.
      I can resell my physical books/
      I can don't have to choose between breaking the law to format shift and break the DRM on my books or rebuy my books when my new reader a a few years no longer supports the old format or when the servers for DRM verification goes down.
      I can buy my dead tree book second hand cheaper.
      I can donate paper books to the local library.
      My physical books don't enter legal limbo when I die and my beneficiary inherits my stuff.

      Are ebooks convenient yes. Are they a replacement to my physical books? a resounding no.
      I have many ebooks I have many physical books both have their place.

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    4. Re:In other news by jc42 · · Score: 1

      In other news, you can still buy buggy whips, dial-style telephones, and vinyl records, too.

      Nostalgia and straight-up Luddite-like behavior are enough to keep almost anything going at some level -- no matter how low its actual utility as compared to more recent replacement tech may be.

      It does generally make more sense to view new technology as adding to existing technology, rather than replacing it. After all, the invention of books didn't replace talking, and the invention of the telephone didn't make person-to-person speech obsolete.

      One of the things I liked to point out back in the 1990s, when we still had tech bookstores, was that when you walked into one, the first bookcase you'd see had all the current best sellers, and if you opened them to the first pages, you'd inevitably find a URL where you could download them, usually for free. Many people would be puzzled by this. If you can download the book and display it on your screen, why would you pay so much money for a book. But the real techies generally weren't puzzled; they understood why they (or their employer ;-) would pay money for the hard copy.

      Of course, amazon has now killed off most of those bookstores. But the hard-copy books are still being produced and bought, and it's still no mystery to those of us who use them. (And we do usually also have the electronic versions in our computers; don't tell anyone ... ;-)

      I also periodically run across comments that music on vinyl records is still produced and selling fairly well. This also makes sense if you give up the idea that new technology replaces the old, and ask yourself what the tradeoffs might be between the various ways of doing things.

      Another fun example: I've read a few analyses of the apparent fact that the population of "working" horses has been slowly growing for some decades now. Try to figure out why this might be, before you google it. As with paper books and vinyl records, it turns out there are situations where horses are cheaper or faster or better in some other important way than the available mechanical replacements. True, it's a small "market", and they'll never regain the niche taken over by tractors, but people are figuring out that they're actually a good "solution" in a number of situations.

      (I've also had fun pointing out that the web has widely adopted the concept of a "scroll" text format, which used to be the epitome of totally obsolete technology. ;-)

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    5. Re:In other news by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Are ebooks convenient yes. Are they a replacement to my physical books? a resounding no.

      As you say, you're speaking for yourself. They're just fine for me, and many others. None of the things you perceive as problems manifest as problems for me.

      Outside? Text-to-speech, with the added benefit of I can still watch where I'm walking.

      Arbitrary deletion: Amazon deleted one version of one title, once, for which they were roundly and publicly criticized. Hardly a cause for "worry" Loaning... pfft.

      Loaning: others can buy their own copy. If they want to read it, they can provide the asked compensation just like I did.

      Highlighting and annotation -- I enjoy both capabilities, no problem at all. Along with many other benefits such as getting to see what others have marked as interesting or notable, page notes, more or less infinite bookmarks kept across all books at once, font changes, color changes, etc.

      Reading in sunlight: zero problem with the LCD reader I keep handy.

      Reselling: Don't care. At all.

      Unsupported formats: This problem has not presented itself, nor does it in any way seem likely, so I'm not concerned about it in the least.

      Cheaper second hand books. I try -- hard -- not to buy second hand IP. When I use IP, it is my aim to compensate for it. For a very practical reason indeed: I want there to be more of it out there. I want it to be a great field -- I want people to think, "hey, I'll produce IP for a living and I'll do great!" And then I want it to actually happen. Because the more we know, the better off we are. The more we limit the value of producing IP, the less attractive it is as a means of earning a living, and so the less of it we will have in the long run.

      Donating books to the library: have you even looked at the ebook accessibility at libraries these days? Look into "Library-to-go" programs. Why should they pay for space when they don't have to? All you're doing there is making libraries more expensive than they need to be.

      Inheritance of a physical book: Future generations... ebooks or deadtree books? I think likely it'll be ebooks, and such an inheritance will be used to light the fireplace or shredded for packing material or simply landfill.

      So as you see -- there's more than one way to look at all this.

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    6. Re:In other news by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      the invention of the telephone didn't make person-to-person speech obsolete.

      Hmm. I don't think you've been observing the current crop of teenagers closely enough.

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    7. Re:In other news by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Most of that, very good.

      One thing, though: the only way vinyl records are "better" than a well recorded CD is if there is no well recorded CD of the material, or you love the cover/liner art in that particular format (Cheech and Chong's "Big Bambu", for instance.) Vinyl itself is a terrible format, it has no inherent audio benefits whatsoever. I own a very high end turntable for those few platters that I can't find well-recorded (or any!) CDs of. They sound terrible -- because they're vinyl. Hugely worse signal to noise, for the stereo ones lower stereo separation, more THD, clicks, pops, uneven-vinyl induced rumble... I don't suffer from wow or flutter (that's a cheap turntable problem, not a vinyl problem): just about every wart and shortcoming vinyl has sticks in my ear like a sharpened spike. And that's after going to what almost anyone would consider "ridiculous extremes" to reach for the highest quality vinyl playback I could put together, with cost not being an issue. (I'm an EE, a musician and a recording engineer. "Picky" doesn't even begin to cover my outlook on this. :)

      The making of *new* vinyl is just a way to purchase low-fidelity audio. I keep a weather eye out WRT new vinyl productions for a great cover or some kind of creative awesomeness like Big Bambu, but so far, nothing has caught my eye.

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  30. Agreed, BUT... by RandCraw · · Score: 1

    Yes, IMHO paper books are usually preferable, but ebooks have advantages since they:

    - can be read in the dark (or poor lighting)
    - can enlarge / change their font
    - allow dictionary lookup of a word, effortlessly
    - can share a bookmark across devices
    - can be bought / downloaded instantly
    - are usually cheaper than paper
    - they don't destroy trees
    - they don't cause my floors to sag under their weight

    I expect to buy more of both indefinitely.

    1. Re:Agreed, BUT... by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Also, when you finish one book, you know the next one is waiting for you (or you can get it) without having to specifically be at a bookstore or your bookshelf. I used to carry an emergency spare in my bag, another in my car, and now and then I'd still finish a book someplace where I didn't have access to a new one.

    2. Re:Agreed, BUT... by RandCraw · · Score: 1

      Yep. Or I'd carry a second paper book in case I got tired of reading the first or just wanted a different style or topic from the first. Sometimes I'd even carry three...

  31. No surprise by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    I published a couple of novels as e-books, because it seemed easier to stick with one format. Quite a few people asked for physical versions (some of the crankier responses were along the lines of "what, no *real* version of the book?"). Some were older relatives who don't have e-readers and didn't want to figure out how to get one running, but some were posting on a gaming forum and, while I don't know their ages, they were technical enough to play computer games, so presumably just preferred the physical book.

    1. Re:No surprise by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      There is the real downside of the cost of a good e-reader. Many people use their smart phones but I know that wouldn't work for me. I much prefer my paperwhite with it's e-ink display. But that is an extra cost and not necessarily a trivial one. So I can see how a fan might be disgruntled if an author they followed published a new book that wasn't available in the format they liked and reading it would mean investing in new hardware.

  32. Nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "sales for both types leveled off"

    Nonsense. That's only according to traditional publishing monitoring which, unreliable to begin with, only covers books with ISBN numbers from traditional publishers. There's a growing indie/self publishing world, focused primarily on e-books, sold primarily through Amazon, which makes little use of ISBNs, which traditional publishing monitoring is unable to see, quantify and report. Amazon knows the numbers, but isn't obligated or inclined to report them to the traditional publishing monitors... rather, only to authors who choose to publish via Amazon.

    See the recent column by traditional publishing consultant/commentator Mike Shatzkin.
    http://www.idealog.com/blog/the-publishing-world-is-changing-but-there-is-one-big-dog-that-has-not-yet-barked/

    For an informed guess, derived from reviewing sales rankings on Amazon and numbers shared by some authors publishing via Amazon, see http://authorearnings.com

    A good site that aggregates lots of articles and commentary regarding all this is http://www.thepassivevoice.com

    Where will this all be in another 10 years?
    E-books will dominate/outsell print... and books in any form will be fighting increasing competition from movies/tv/music, gaming, the Internet in general and who knows what else...
    Big chain book stores will have retreated to major urban beltways, indie bookstores (previously clobbered by the big chains prior to Amazon's existence) will continue their resurgence and those of us out in flyover country will be back to shopping for paper books, when we want them, in local mom & pop indie book stores and on racks in drug/retail stores, much like back in the sixties and seventies before the explosion of the big book chains.

    SpringfieldMH

  33. Don't fight it... by Thisstatementisfalse · · Score: 1

    Don't fight the natural course of technology, ebooks will soon take over physical books, just like robots will take over humans in menial labor tasks in the next 25 years.

  34. Physical books that are cheaper. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like to read crime and thriller novels, and used paper books are cheaper than ebooks. When I discover a new author I like, I go up on Amazon and do a search "a lot of (insert author's name)" I will generally get a number of hits, and order a stack of 10 or so for usually about $25, including shipping.

  35. Kill off uni libraries as they are now by Bruce66423 · · Score: 1

    One of the possibilities that I've not seen seriously discussed is the way that academic libraries can be largely virtualised.

    1) New books should be bought as an electronic copy and made available for temporary download as required by students. My uni has started to offer that; you get to hold it for only 24 hours

    2) ALL books out of copyright should be digitised, packed up and stored securely off site. There is no need - apart from the aesthetics and wow factor - to have old books filling up space. OK - so wandering the publicly available bit of the library and seeing a book dated 1540 IS impressive... but most of them should go to a better place. There's a large room in the City Library filled with Parliamentary Reports. These are online... Meanwhile old stuff isn't available; I tracked down one British document I wanted from 1795; the AUSTRALIAN national library would let me have an electronic copy if I could offer an Australian address. The British Library would allow me electronic access if I went to their physical location. In the end I bought a physical copy online...

    3) The remaining group are the books that are still in copyright and where a digitised version isn't legitimate. We're probably stuck with this for a period but it will be a declining problem - although in non-science subjects one that will probably persist longer than in sciences, where text books go out of date fairly rapidly.

    For copyright libraries, digitisation should resolve their problem of an ever increasing volume of books; digitise and store in a salt mine. Everyone's a winner; far greater accessibility of the actual data and no problem of needing to recover them 99.999% of the time.

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  37. Meteors don't rise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  38. ebook market share will continue to grow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love physical books. They will always co-exist for many reasons, especially visual and sheer pleasure. However, the bump in the road for ebook growth is I think a bump and they will dominate more in the US than they are right now. And in fact in terms of best-sellers, especially new releases in genres like mystery and sci-fi and romance, ebooks are in fact accounting for a majority of sales. (It appears! Amazon's numbers are not divulged so you have to work backwards.) When a new book comes out, ebooks are cheaper than the hardcover. I think it's only a matter of time that once a title hits paperback, the ebook price will come down to the same or lower. (And most of the money for books and CDs and BluRays is not about the physical product, but the worth of the entertainment.) Actually, it makes no sense any more to wait for paperback. I wish they'd just make a title available in any format you want (just as movies come out on DVD, BluRay and digital.)

    1. Ebook prices have seen a short-term rise (due to the anti-trust suit and agreements made in settlement with gov) and should come back down since it's dumb to make them that expensive.
    2. Ebook sales slowed in part, I think, because people stopped buying the far superior e-readers like Kindle and Nook and started doing their reading on tablets and phones. This is a far less enjoyable experience for many reasons (interruptions from the device, eyestrain, etc.) and so suddenly many people who never had an ereader felt like they preferred a physical copy. To a tablet or your phone? Yes. To an ereader? No. But that boat has sailed.
    3. Ebooks are close to a majority or an actual majority in unit sales (not dollar gross) for many popular genres and most best-sellers.
    4. Ebooks are so easy to buy. Even next day delivery of a physical book or going to a bookstore (when it's open) can't compete with hearing about a book at 2 in the morning and starting to read it ten seconds later. This will inexorably take away market share from physical books.
    5. If a book is remotely big, ebooks are a no-brainer, especially for city folk who actually lug the book around rather than putting it in their car. I just got volume three of Mark Twain's autobiography and it's almost intimidating in size. I would never read a book of that bulk in a physical format ever again. Truly. Just a pain in the ass.
    6. You always have ebooks with you. Always. Via ereader or tablet or phone. Not true of physical books.
    7. And if one takes a world-wide perspective, ebooks will completely dominate and very soon. Billions of people have smartphones. Many countries and billions of people are poorly served if at all by a physical bookstore. Shipping books (which are heavy) is prohibitively expensive. But now publishers can reach a massive new audience worldwide that couldn't buy ANY books on a practical level. Now they can buy any book with a tap on their phone. Once payment methods are worked out (these people don't have credit cards), you'll see a worldwide explosion in sales of ebooks that will dwarf what has come before. For them, physical books are not an option and will seem foolishly unnecessary and vulnerable to the elements.

    I used to own every book I ever read. Wish I still did. But in a digital world, carting around my own personal CD of this album and personal DVD of that movie and personal paperback of the new Kim Stanley Robinson seems silly. A library with my absolute favorites? I'm old school enough to want that very much. But for most folk in the future, I'm sure a blog listing their favorites will suffice.

  39. ebooks more expensive than paperbacks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are ebooks more expensive than paperbacks?