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An anonymous reader writes: I am visiting USA 3-4 times a year and I need a data service. I also need to keep my cell phone number, so swapping the SIM card in my phone is not an option. I have bought those 19.95$ phones in Best-Buy to get a local number, but those were voice only. So I have been thinking about getting a MiFi hotspot.

I have been looking at pre-paid plans from Verizon(only 700 LTE band for their pre-paid hotspot), AT&T, T-Mobile etc. perhaps to put in a MiFi hotspot or buy a hotspot from a provider, but have no idea which one to use, their reputation, real life coverage etc. It is clear that all data plans in the USA are really expensive, I get 100GB monthly traffic with my Scandinavian provider for the same price as 6-8 GB monthly in the US, which I guess could be a problem with our Apple phones as they do not recognize a metered WiFi hotspot. But that is another issue. I travel all over but most of the time outside the big cities -- and my experience from roaming with my own phone and the cheap local phone so far tells me that coverage fluctuates wildly depending on the operator.

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  1. Not T-Mobile by Guspaz · · Score: 2

    When I visit the US, I use a Canadian provider known as Roam Mobility. They roam on T-Mobile's network, and the network seems to fall apart any time there are large crowds. Most of the time it worked OK, but when I went to Universal Studios or Anime Expo, I basically had no cell reception the entire time I was at either of those events/places.

    My friends who were roaming on AT&T had no issues.

    1. Re: Not T-Mobile by WarJolt · · Score: 1

      From my experience in California, Verizon works best outside the big cities. At&t is 2nd. I wouldn't even consider T-mobile outside of the city, but to be fair I don't have experience with them. Sprint has unlimited data plans and works fairly well in certain areas and terribly in others.

    2. Re: Not T-Mobile by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      I have T-Mobile right now, and it seems to work pretty well when I go on road trips. There's some spottiness in the mountains, but I guess I kind of expect that.

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    3. Re:Not T-Mobile by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      My friends who were roaming on AT&T had no issues.

      Part of what you pay for with AT&T and Verizon is that they put up extra towers at large events.

      Universal Studios and Disney World have multiple AT&T and Verizon towers, inside the park, for just that purpose.

      Any time you go to a big event, they'll have towers. They can provide them at outdoor events via trucks with folding towers on the roof, for example.

      You pay for it, but their service is really darn good.

    4. Re: Not T-Mobile by kilodelta · · Score: 1

      T-Mobile is most built out between Boston, MA and VA. Once you get into say eastern North Carolina - out past Elizabeth City into Edenton and Columbia you can kiss sevice goodbye for data. In fact phone and text barely works there.

    5. Re: Not T-Mobile by jittles · · Score: 1

      From my experience in California, Verizon works best outside the big cities. At&t is 2nd. I wouldn't even consider T-mobile outside of the city, but to be fair I don't have experience with them. Sprint has unlimited data plans and works fairly well in certain areas and terribly in others.

      I've used ATT, T-Mobile, and Sprint on both the West Coast and East Coast. Sprint is terrible. Even in some larger east coast cities the reception is spotty and even their LTE speeds can be very slow. T-Mobile works pretty well for me on the East Coast, but there are stretches of interstate where I do not have data whatsoever. The coverage in places like Central California don't seem to be all that great for T-Mobile. ATT has the best coverage of them all, typically. Though I have found deadspots where T-Mobile is better than ATT in parts of Florida, that is the exception and not the rule. If the OP needs coverage in the most rural of areas, he needs Verizon. If he's going to be doing a lot of interstate travel and smaller towns, ATT should be more than adequate. T-Mobile will give the OP the best value for the money if OP sticks to interstates and towns with a population greater than ~100,000-200,000 (on the east coast, anyway). If the OP goes with Sprint on the East Coast (except maybe New England) then may the FSM have mercy on his soul.

    6. Re:Not T-Mobile by mikeiver1 · · Score: 1

      Really the two options are Verizon and AT&T. Verizon generally seems to have the better coverage and is a bit more reliable. AT&T by far has the faster network if you are looking to move data. Both are stupid expensive for what they provide which is very little to be honest. To the best of my knowledge there really is no option from any of the carriers here that doesn't include a hefty serving of ass rape.

    7. Re:Not T-Mobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends.

      T-mobile is the least expensive option in the U.S. The "Walmart" plan is $30/mo pre-paid for unlimited data (5GB per month at 3G speeds, after that you only get 2G speeds)-- you can order a SIM from T-Mobile's website, and call cust service to activate it to the wallmart plan (you don't have to get it from wallmart, but t-mobile retail stores can't help you). You also get unlimited texts and 100 voice minutes in that plan. I haven't had issues with t-mobile in large cities, in my experience, it is rural areas where t-mobile struggles.

      ATT is the worst company for customer service, and they seem to be using "mistakes" in their favor on their post-paid customer bills as part of their business model. They are the only other GSM based company besides T-Mobile, and ATT's network is much larger than T-mobiles-- it will cost you much more too. ATT can be unusable in large cities too (I used to have tons of issues with "all circuits are busy" when trying to call on ATT in San Diego).

      Verizon has the best coverage in the US. Far better than ATT. But, it isn't going to work with your current handset if you are not from Korea, Iraq, or the handful of other places the US government "convinced" to use Qualcom's technology.

      Sprint, is same tech as Verizon, but tiny network in comparison.

      Everything else is either owned by one of the above, or is just a reseller for one of the above.

    8. Re:Not T-Mobile by rerunn · · Score: 1

      roammobility used to be awesome, but now they are completely useless in most big cities. These days, I just go into AT&T and buy a 45 dollar prepaid.

  2. Karma- MiFi by travisres · · Score: 1

    This isn't so useful as far as a phone goes, but for an MiFi device... but I recently purchased a Karma WiFi Hotspot. https://yourkarma.com/invite/b... (obligatory share link) or just https://yourkarma.com/ They work as a pay as you go vs a subscription basis. You buy 10GB of data, that data is good until you use it up. The data is still a little pricey ($100 for 10GB, $60 for 5GB) but they run promo deals from time to time. I'm a fan just because I hated having to spend $50/month on a data plan that I would often not use if I was out of the country for a chunk of time.

    Part of Karma's thing is that the SSID will always be an open network with the name Karma in it (you can pick a couple options). If you are in a public place, others can log into your Karma and purchase internet time off of it. Any guest usage does not count against yours, and you get a data bonus for sharing your hotspot.
    They say your connection is secured from any other device. I'm still not sure how they accomplish this.

    1. Re:Karma- MiFi by sims+2 · · Score: 2

      The Karma go uses sprint's 3g and 4g network and offers non expiring data.

      Sprint has a bit better coverage than t-mobile imho. (sprint has 4g here t-mobile still 2g only)

      This is the best choice for decent coverage with occasional use. But keep in mind they do charge more for the data since it doesn't expire.

      Op did not really state how much he used or how much he was willing to pay.

      If you need near universal coverage go with verizon or att.

      If you need cheap data you have come to the wrong country.

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    2. Re: Karma- MiFi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just fyi there is a double data deal on karma go until aug 31st $59 for 10gb $99 for 20gb.

    3. Re:Karma- MiFi by jittles · · Score: 1

      Sprint has a bit better coverage than t-mobile imho. (sprint has 4g here t-mobile still 2g only)

      That is in complete contradiction to anything I have ever experienced. I wouldn't use Sprint if it were free. I travel a lot and when I had Sprint I felt like my phone might as well have just been a 100g brick in my pocket. Do you mind me asking which phone and what area you live in? I know that the Nexus 4, for instances, is not FCC certified for the frequencies required to get proper 4G on T-Mobile.

    4. Re:Karma- MiFi by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Sorry I had not checked the maps since march it shows that I am covered with t-mobile 4g lte service now.

      My primary phone is a verizon 3g samsung convoy 3.
      Because I need my phone to work as a phone and verizon doesn't sell any 4g phones that work as phones.
      I live on the border of oklahoma and arkansas.

      I also have a 4g samsung galaxy victory through freedompop that uses sprint's service so I have a home phone.

      An att 3g ipad 2 and a verizon 4g ipad 4 both on t-mobile's 200mb free for life of tablet plan. Neither is able to pick up t-mobile's 4g service. (although now I know its here I am going to double check that!)

      A retired 3g internet on the go ap (sprint) that was replaced with the 4g karma go (also sprint) for backup service.

      A verizon 4g 6620L mifi that's my primary when away from work or home.

      I shouldn't have relied on t-mobile to contact me when 4g was available like I asked them to 2 years ago.

      Still the 2g t-mobile coverage I can pickup on my ipads is much more spotty than the 3g sprint coverage I get on my internet go or the 4g coverage on the karma go.

      No devices with att service to test atm however while in alaska a couple years ago in many places the att ipad was the only device with service.

      The main reason I currently have no active att service is I am unaware of any inexpensive way to keep att's data service active or I would have one of those on standby too.

      It is worth noting that 90% if not all of the gov't issued free phones use sprint and I know people that went back to their previous provider because they couldn't get service out of town with their free phone.

      So no your not alone a lot of people won't use sprint even when it is free.

      But where I live you have either att or verizon or you only have reliable service in town.

      I can't vouch for t-mobile's voice coverage as the last person I knew that used it lived in town and only had it for the cheaper international calls. And that was years ago back before the alltel merger even I think. Most everyone moved to smart phones a while back and since t-mobile had no 3g or 4g they kinda got left out.

      Now that I know t-mobile now has 4g service ill ask around and see if anyone's tried it yet.

      Thats what happens when you go several years without providing any service.
      People leave.

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  3. Dual Sim phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a dual Sim phone. Then you can keep your number working and pick the cheapest provider for data. Most countries have reasonable tablet rates.

    You can get a cheap moto g or dual blu phone. I have a nice d6633 Sony xperia z3 dual Sim. I get 10 gigs of data per month pretty cheap.

    1. Re:Dual Sim phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      But he is an iPhone user. Those folks tend to not want to switch as they are usually convinced of the inherent superiority of overpriced, under-performing iShinies. Since they don't make dual-sim iPhones, dual-sim phones must be inherently inferior. That's the mind set. Remember when Apply only made tiny phones? Big phones were silly because Apple didn't make them...

    2. Re:Dual Sim phone by Severus+Snape · · Score: 1

      He ain't going to go out and buy a new phone with dual sim just to make traveling a little easier, that would be a waste of money.

    3. Re:Dual Sim phone by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah ill just leave this here as people seem to forget that they do make dual sim adapters for iphones.

      http://www.magic-sim.com/categ...

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    4. Re:Dual Sim phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good points, but I think his question was from whom can you get 10 gigs of cheap data per month?

    5. Re:Dual Sim phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a fucking dick. Why is this about Apple? He mentioned it for information. Leave your bitter, mean spirited bullshit on the game channels. If you have something useful to say, then by all means say it without dragging your own biases in.

    6. Re:Dual Sim phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He ain't going to go out and buy a new phone with dual sim just to make traveling a little easier, that would be a waste of money.

      WTF? He said he is going to buy a MiFi. That alone is more than the cost of a good dual-sim phone. Then factor in the ongoing cost of that data plan...

      Way to save money, idiot.

    7. Re: Dual Sim phone by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      Spending hundreds on some oddball phone to use a couple times a year just for data is silly. Just go to Starbucks and leech wifi.

  4. Dual Sim phone by slazzy · · Score: 1

    Get a dual Sim phone. Then you can keep your number working and pick the cheapest provider for data. Most countries have reasonable tablet rates. You can get a cheap moto g or dual blu phone. I have a nice d6633 Sony xperia z3 dual Sim. I get 10 gigs of data per month pretty cheap.

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  5. Best coverage by Daemonik · · Score: 2

    Verizon & AT&T will have the best average coverage throughout the US, especially the more rural areas. T-Mobile, Sprint and the various budget providers who piggyback on T-Mo & Sprint's networks work best in more urban areas, although there are always dead zones here and there too..

    Compared to Europe, the US is still pretty empty, population wise, so a lot of rural areas just aren't worth investing in the network spectrum to cover unfortunately.

    1. Re:Best coverage by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

      My mom got screwed from a Verizon hotspot. I don't know if they've changed the policy, but it used to be that you had to have a contract with it -- so they got stuck with it for 2 years when they only needed it for a couple of months. (I have no idea if she asked about it specifically and was lied to, or if she didn't specifically ask and they glossed over it.)

      AT&T has a good network, but if they require contracts, it might be better to go through someone like Net10, which resells on AT&T's network, but is specifically month-to-month.

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    2. Re: Best coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yikes. I've never been to Europe but I think US is insanely overpopulated. Europe must be some kind of hell.

    3. Re:Best coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Verizon no longer does two-year contracts: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/personal/2015/08/07/verizons-new-smartphone-plans-drop-subsidies/31295523/

      While that article talks about smartphones, it applies to "hotspots" as well. I just purchased one, paid $139 (which is "retail"), and it has no contract commit.

    4. Re: Best coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you've never really been around the US either. I am 40 miles from Washington DC and my town as a density of 140 sq mile. Further west another 10 miles and it drops much less.

    5. Re: Best coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USA: 34 people per square km.
      EU: 111 people per square km.

      You might like Canada, which averages 3.7 people per square km. Or you love Nunavut, which, divided equally, offers each person 58 square km each (or 200 square km for an average family). Problem is there's only a few dozen gas stations in the entire territory, so load up when you go (and don't forget groceries, though you will want a big wallet, milk is about $20/gallon).

    6. Re:Best coverage by fpoling · · Score: 2

      Population density in Norway is more than 2 times less than in USA. Yet the country has coverage even in the middle of nowhere (as long one stays close to the road) if not with 3G but at least with 2G enough to check email or surf web. Surely sometimes one hits a dead zone, but this is typically due to a mountain blocking the signal. Just drive few minutes, and the coverage is there.

    7. Re: Best coverage by Daemonik · · Score: 1

      New York City, JUST the city, has a bigger population than New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, DC, Vermont, AND Wyoming COMBINED.

      The US is still ridiculously underpopulated.

    8. Re:Best coverage by Daemonik · · Score: 1

      The US also has what, 1000X the land mass of Norway? It's not really something you can compare. There are whole states with barely 500,000 people in them.

    9. Re:Best coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No carrier in the US ever "required" contracts. If you brought a device to them, there was a 1 year contract but with a zero early termination fee. Your mom got a discounted MiFi that resulted in a 2 year contract and if it was over 2 years ago, a $175 ETF. Which when you look at the hardware discount, works about the same or better.

    10. Re: Best coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What part of population density don't you understand?

    11. Re:Best coverage by fpoling · · Score: 1

      Norway is just slightly less than California. Yet my experience 4 years ago that even in California with population density 6 times larger was that the coverage was worse. And judging by comments I do not see that situation improved.

    12. Re:Best coverage by mjpaci · · Score: 1

      Is there a Norweigan term for "NIMBY"? If so, what's the NIMBY density in Norway compared with CA? I bet the CA density is at least 100x... :)

    13. Re:Best coverage by jbolden · · Score: 1

      European carriers are often subsidized more heavily (like USA land carriers). The bigger problem is that Europe even sparse countries have more uniform density. America has a lot of suburbs and x-burbs where a huge percentage of the population live in moderate densities. Rural highway is easy (though expensive). The problem is what to do in lightly populated areas.

    14. Re: Best coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it's not. There's plenty of deadwood that can sent to leech off of the EU actually.

    15. Re: Best coverage by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      Or, parts of the US are ridiculously over populated.

    16. Re: Best coverage by Daemonik · · Score: 1

      Never move to a city, you apparently wouldn't be able to handle being around more people than cows.

  6. Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verizon generally has the best coverage the rural west USA. I pay $90/10mb/month on a prepaid basis when I'm going to be traveling. I have Sprint voice/data but it does not do well outside of urban centers.

    1. Re:Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, should have said $90/10gb/month.

    2. Re:Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. (Verizon)

      I've been working while traveling the US for a month now, not using interstate highways, and trying to hit as many dirt roads and national forests as possible in my time off. I've cut across Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, South Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah and I've stayed in towns as small as a hundred people. I seem to always get Verizon 4G LTE in every rinky dink little town on my Jetpack MiFi 6620L wifi hostspot. However, get outside of town a few miles and you might have no coverage. (Though I was briefly able to do some video conferences in some national forests when I was on a mountain slope facing the town. :-)

      FYI, I'm paying $80 for 10GB and it seems like just enough to do travel related activity and my day job (back end stuff). But they let you upgrade and downgrade your service as needed.

    3. Re:Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We stopped using paid coverage of any sorts four years ago. There is a Mi-Fi that was 3G offered by Verizon. Now it's only available on
      Amazon for $28. Verizon has a plan for 4G but they want you to pay for your data plus $20 a month for WHAT? You would just have
      to go to Verizon and get a SIM card for the 3G but like where we live we have tall trees and stormy weather and 4G doesn't signal well
      in the forest. Our first 3G has retired and the new one we bought we just replaced our old SIM in the new and we have better coverage
      again.

      Good luck going into Verizon and doing the "Verizon wait."

  7. Verizon, unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I do a lot of storm chasing on the Plains. I need good coverage to get weather data like radar images. In my experience, Verizon has by far the best coverage. They're expensive and I hate their new plans. I'm still grandfathered in on unlimited data, but the current batch of data plans are awful. That said, if you're concerned with having a signal outside of cities, I think Verizon is your best bet, at least for the central US. I can't speak for other parts of the country.

    1. Re: Verizon, unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Verizon on the east coast is best . Att is a close second . Sprint and t mobile are terrible unless you are in a city and not deal in a building . I have a grandfathered att unlimited plan, it's good but not as good as my friend on Verizon . Both iPhones

    2. Re:Verizon, unfortunately... by mcswell · · Score: 1

      Have you tried Straighttalk? If you have a CDMA phone, it'll use Verizon towers, and the plans are cheaper.

      Disclaimer: I'm a satisfied user of Straighttalk, but I do not own stock in Walmart.

  8. Google Voice plus Cricket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google Voice or similar services will let you keep the same number and easily switch carriers when you want. Cricket is owned by AT&T, and uses their network, almost as large as Verizon's, but has lower rates: $40 for 2.5GB, $60 for 10GB.

    1. Re:Google Voice plus Cricket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google Voice would be a great idea except that they don't let you redirect foreign numbers. This person has a non +1 number (non-US number) so Google Voice is a non-starter for him.

  9. Wind Mobile with a Canadian account. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wind sells a better roaming US data service to Canadians than Americans can get. It will give you unlimited data everywhere via AT&T and T-Mobile. There is a slow-down cap of around 3GB or so.

    1. Re:Wind Mobile with a Canadian account. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Great solution.
      They offer this access point device that is outstanding:
      https://www.windmobile.ca/plans-and-devices/mobile-devices/device-details/windspeed-e8372

  10. Here is what I do by wbr1 · · Score: 2
    I live in the US but travel in US a bit.
    Port you US number (costs) to Google Voice or get a free number from google voice.
    Get a nexus 6 (unlocked). Go to ting and get both a GSM SIM and a a CDME/LTE SIM fo rthe phone (micro SIMS).
    Activate both. You will have two numbers, but it does not matter. Forward your GV number to both.
    There are some settings changes you will need to make, but once all is done, you can use the nexus 6 on -Tmobile and Sprint depending on coverage. Both are good, but not as good as verizon coverage in rural areas. All you need to do is swap SIMS.

    Get it set up in advance, as it can take a while for ports into GV and forwarding to propagate correctly.

    In a pinch you can carry two phones one on CDMA and one on GSM and do the same. That is what I used to do. More to carry, but I could keep one charging while burning GPS/battery etc on the other phone. That will also use more data as both phones are doing their thing on Ting at the same time for whatever apps you have running.

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    1. Re: Here is what I do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both sprint an t mobile have no service slightly out in the countryside. You will have two sims with no service

    2. Re: Here is what I do by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      Did you not notice? I mentioned lackluster rural coverage. You could get an AT&T prepay (gophone I think) GSM SIM for tough spots if need be. GV forwarding still applies.

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  11. Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Coming from Europe, the mobile communications experience in the US is what one would expect from a Third World country, not from the US. Service is slow, expensive, unreliable and not very flexible.

    1. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by bobeil · · Score: 0

      This is an insult to Third World countries! Many developing countries have cheaper, faster, and more reliable mobile networks. In Europe, 5GB mobile internet is $20 per month, prepaid. In the US, the same costs $100 at T-Mobile.

    2. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      In Europe, 5GB mobile internet is $20 per month, prepaid. In the US, the same costs $100 at T-Mobile.

      You can have 5GB LTE data on T-Mobile (with unlimited text, 100 minutes voice, but one can do all these over LTE with e.g. Google Hangouts) for $30/month, prepaid, no extra taxes or fees.

    3. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Brett+Buck · · Score: 0

      You are welcome to stay home.

    4. Re: Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, we don't want foreigners to know just how bad is our cellular system

    5. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't be rude to our friends from other countries. Sadly, the U.S. cellular companies are crooks and gouge the hell out of us (I'm an American). As with nearly everything else here, the Plutocrats are in control and they can afford what ever they want. The rest of us are just screwed.

    6. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

      My wife and I have unlimited phone/4G Data/texting, plus 5gb hotspot data apiece, for a total of $100/month through T-Mobile. If US was really that bad, why the need to make shit up?

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    7. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Todd+Palin · · Score: 1

      The US is on its way to becoming a third world country. Its mobile phone network just the tip of the iceberg.

    8. Re: Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking as a natural-borb American, I want out of this country so fucking bad.

    9. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Lorens · · Score: 2

      My wife and I have unlimited phone/4G Data/texting, plus 5gb hotspot data apiece, for a total of $100/month through T-Mobile. If US was really that bad, why the need to make shit up?

      Assuming that's a total of $100/month for two people, it still seems three times as expensive as (the cheapest and best provider) in France, 16 or 20 €/month for unlimited everything (you get 4€ off if you're also a broadband client). What's with the 5GB hotspot data if you have unlimited 4G data, does that mean you only have unlimited if it's 4G and not if it's 3G or Edge?

    10. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by raarts · · Score: 2

      Coming from Europe, I found Ting a relatively good option for urban areas at least, as they use T-Mobile for GSM/LTE.

    11. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actual third world countries tend to have above average mobile networks, because mobile is the only network for them and they rely on it. Prices are cheap because locals need to be able to afford it.

    12. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      T-Mobile in Germany for that same $100 would give you 100Mb/s speeds and almost twice the bandwidth cap.

      And T-Mobile isn't the fastest carrier in .de, either.

    13. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Prices have been going down lately due to intense competition. Sprint and T-Mobile are aggressively competing on price, and V and T are cutting prices to keep from losing too many customers. Meanwhile, Sprint and T-Mobile are steadily building out their networks to compete with V and T coverage advantage, but they have a long way to go.

      And Dish Network has bought a huge amount of spectrum at auction. They will be entering the business in a major way sometime in the next few years.

      They're not acting the way you describe. Not anymore.

    14. Re: Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lucky for you, borders are open. Good luck in your new home. But wherever you go, it'll still be you there. I think that's your real problem.

    15. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the problem: you guys have been brainwashed since kindergarden into believing that the US is the greatest country in the world, and you guys are so provincial that you still believe it even when facing evidence to the contrary. You sure have a kick ass military (and in spite of that you are likely be used to not winning any wars by now) but when it comes to mobile communications, the US is trailing the leading edge by 5 years or more.

    16. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My country, right or wrong. When you are mediocre, that's all that you have.

    17. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5GB Data plan with TMobile is only $40 a month. That is the problem with you guys: you know nothing about the US.

      Plus we invented the mobile phone and the iPhone and your phone too. No need to say thank you.

    18. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Macman408 · · Score: 1

      That means that you get unlimited data on the phone itself, but only 5 GB for using the phone as a hotspot (eg to connect your computer).

    19. Re: Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speak volumes about your standard of thought, anonymous coward. Are you part of the problem too?

    20. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Means the phone can consume unlimited data, but they (try to) restrict hotspot usage to 5G.

      T-Mobile also sells Nexus phones without their proprietary software on-board, I'm pretty sure my Nexus has gone over the hotspot limit without getting dinged for it - because they just don't know. On the other hand, I'm not using my hotspot for anything that's easily detectable as different like torrents or such... also, I have a limited data plan with a more limited hotspot cap, just seems that the hotspot cap is irrelevant on unlocked / clean phones.

    21. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by sdxxx · · Score: 1

      Some inaccuracies there. First, your family plan would plan cost $80/month for an individual, so implying $50/line is misleading. Second, I had that same plan, and it was really $120/month because of taxes and fees, and suspect the single-line plan would be about $90/month. Finally, on the plus side you actually have 7GB/month of tethering, not 5.

    22. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Squirmy+McPhee · · Score: 1

      My wife and I have unlimited phone/4G Data/texting, plus 5gb hotspot data apiece, for a total of $100/month through T-Mobile. If US was really that bad, why the need to make shit up?

      I don't think there's a lot of "making shit up" going on here. I live in France and for $100/month my wife and I could each have 20 GB mobile data with unlimited texting and free calls to 100 countries, unlimited hotspot data, blazing-fast fiber-optic internet service with VOIP (also with free calling around the world) at home, and TV service with more premium channels than we would watch. As it stands, we pay 38€/month and get all of that except the mobile data (because my wife doesn't have a smartphone and I get mine through work) and the premium TV channels. They throw in my wife's dumbphone service for free.

      When I last lived in the US I paid $80/month for our mobile service, plus another $100/month for cable and internet with no premium channels, no VOIP, and no free global calling. I know things have changed -- smartphones were just starting to appear when we moved -- and $100/month for what your getting is a big improvement over what I was getting for $80/month. Still, that you consider it a good price is all I need to know to confirm that the American telecom industry is still in sad shape compared to the rest of the world. (And it doesn't help that in the course of this year I got better mobile service in a small town 5 hours outside of Shanghai than I did in central Michigan.)

    23. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 1

      And in Cambodia for under $10 a month you can get unlimited calling texts and 4G.

      The US simply hasn't invested in infrastructure the way many third world countries have, and it really shows

    24. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Lauriy · · Score: 1

      I get unlimited upload/download speeds with a 40 GB cap for 35€/month. That would probably cost an arm and a leg in the US?

    25. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by jbolden · · Score: 1

      Come on now. USA is about $5 gb/mo from Verizon less from the lesser carriers. USA is expensive it ain't that expensive.

    26. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by swalve · · Score: 1

      We have great infrastructure, but only where the people are. I doubt Australia has many cell towers in the outback, either.

    27. Re:Mobile communications experience in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it has, but the cellular companies charge what the market will bear, not what it costs them or what other countries are charging.

  12. Where are you going in the U.S.? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I don't think it's possible to answer your question adequately without more information.

    Where are you going in the U.S.? Is it large cities, or out of cities? Just where in the U.S.? Real world coverage is better in some places with some carriers than in others... The U.S. is huge.

    Also if you are going to conventions be aware that some places have local repeaters from some companies but not others - AT&T or Verizon might have exclusive access to prove improved coverage at some particular location (especially conventions in hotels).

    Outside of cities data server might be hit or miss no matter who you have...

    I have T-Mobile and love them, mainly because I have the opposite problem - I travel outside the U.S. a lot, and I get free (slower) data just about world-wide with T-Mobile (and have an unlimited data plan). I'm a bit surprised you don't get the reverse effect from your carrier with T-Mobile, you may want to call them and ask because perhaps all they have to do is flip a switch in their system to let you roam in the U.S. for free.

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  13. Cheap, Plentiful, Available -- Choose 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are going to have to make a decision between reliability across geography and cost. The most to least permiable signal will be:
    Verizon
    ATT
    T-Mobile/Sprint
    3rd Party - Boost, Virgin?, Cricket, etc

    The inverse is true for cost. You will pay a lot for the permeability of Verizon and less for the not as available Boost.

    If you want it just for your home location and you have good signal with boost. Then get it and be done. T-Mobile honored the trial period and let me return and switch when I found their service was spotty at my home. If you want it for travel around the US then Verizon is the most available, but don't expect to use it as a general isp. You will burn through data and pay a fortune.

    Sorry. No cheap and well regulated wireless-is-a-public-resource market here. Welcome to the capitalistic shitstorm that is the US.

    1. Re: Cheap, Plentiful, Available -- Choose 2 by limaxray · · Score: 1

      There's nothing capitalistic about the American cellular market - it is so heavily regulated there is effectively no real competition like you'd see in a real free market. Of course these 'regulations' are nothing more than protectionist schemes bought and paid for. This chronyism is not capitalism in anyway way, shape, or form but rather some classical conservative feudalism and neoliberal socialism bastard child.

    2. Re: Cheap, Plentiful, Available -- Choose 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously don't understand how common carrier open provider regulations work. For a good example, see the submitter's comments about their rates. Now please STFU like a good ignorant libertarian. Your world view is false.

  14. dont try tmobile by bobjr94 · · Score: 1

    They may look good, low prices and no overage charger (only reduced speed) but for most of the country it will have no service or Edge (slow 2g). We have tmobile and it sucks when traveling. Soon as your outside a city you loose coverage. Try verizon, best coverage but most expensive. Turn off all your iphone autoupdates for both system and apps, that will help.

    1. Re:dont try tmobile by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 1

      I love all these T-Mobile bashing threads because everything boils down to what happens when you're out of a city. I travel for work and T-Mobile works fine. Why? I'm either in a major metropolitan area or I'm in the air. I never drive out into the country, and if i do, I don't mind the disruption of LTE service because it will always be there when I get back to a metro.

      The only place this gets annoying is if you are trying to use Google Maps, but price it out. T-Mobile w/ Unlimited Data + a Tom Tom or Verizon with a cap.

      Personally, I'll take T-Mobile because you can abuse your unlimited data (I download movies over LTE all the time and can set up a hot spot that beats whatever hotel wifi will have). Yes, YMMV. You need to really look at where you're going to be. Flying into NYC or Boston for the week for work? T-Mobile. Driving around in the middle of nowhere and using GPS? Don't T-Mobile

      (p.s. If you buy a T-mobile iphone they'll lock the mobile hotspot to only 5GB / month. You may be best off with a 'droid device if that's going to be your primary use because that won't be locked -- although you can download unlimited data to your phone and transfer it over e.g. with Airplay)

  15. ReadySIM by victorsosa · · Score: 1

    For my ReadySim works fine when I visit the US.

  16. Fully isolated? by PPH · · Score: 0

    I just skimmed TFA (Pottering's rambling really don't make much sense anyway). By "fully isolated", it sounds like machinectl breaks the audit trail that su has always supported (not being 'fully isolated' by design). Many *NIX systems are configured to prohibit root logins from anything other than the system console. And the reason that su doesn't do a 'full login' either as root or another user is to maintain the audit trail of who (which system user) is actually running what.

    Lennart, this UNIX/Linus stuff appears to be way over your head. Sure, it seems neat for lots of gamers who can't be bothered with security and just want all the machine cycles for rendering FPS games. Perhaps you'd be better off playing with an XBox.

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    1. Re:Fully isolated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think anyone who can't respond to the right article should be giving advice.

    2. Re:Fully isolated? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

      Say what you want, but at least Lennart doesn't post to the wrong thread.

    3. Re:Fully isolated? by PPH · · Score: 1

      Sorry. Slashdot's latest rev appears to have supressed subject lines and titles once I open a thread. I posted to the wrong tab.

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    4. Re:Fully isolated? by narcc · · Score: 1

      I get it. You hate systemd and really want to let the world know. Some good advice: you'll most likely find a more receptive audience in the other thread. It's just out-of-place here.

  17. Verizon, the bastards. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hate to recommend them but if you need coverage wherever, they're the only real game. I'm almost never without their network in the US, city, town or country. They are rat-bastards, but they've got the network.

    1. Re:Verizon, the bastards. by w42w42 · · Score: 1

      Like them or not, they are pretty much the only game in town if you are really going to be rural. Every once in awhile when visiting a small rural town I'll ask someone what the recommended provider is in their area - and the answers are pretty much all Verizon.

  18. This is what I do ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... not exactly kosher, but whenever I go to US, especially when I need to go to various regions within the USA, I borrow phone simcards from my friends - of course I pay them (although some of them refuse to accept any money from me, and in those cases I re-pay them with really fine meals and/or whatever gifts that I can find)

    I have found out that it is utterly a frustrating task trying to use one wireless service provider throughout the US of A

  19. For 1 week, T-Mobile by Tomahawk · · Score: 1

    Any time I'm in the US, I take out the T-Mobile 7 day plan. It's $15, if memory serves (if toy already have a card, otherwise add $15 to that for the card and registration), and comes with 1Gb data. It's not terribly fast, but good enough for email and stuff where you are away from WiFi.

  20. Cheapest solution: 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use the EU provider 3. They roam in the U.S. For free and it's 16£/20â a month for unlimited data. If you're dead set on a U.S. Plan buy a non data phone and open a contract with att. Throw the non data phone away/it's just to get you 50$ less a month on your contract. Then attach an iPad for 25/mo. The use the data from the iPad as able. (Used to work for att setting pricing, sorry everyone. Verizon and att collude which is why you all get fucked in the U.S. :) surprise not surprising? )

    1. Re:Cheapest solution: 3 by GregoryOakley-steven · · Score: 1

      Three cap unlimited plans when roaming to 25Gb

  21. Look Into Straight Talk at Walmart by kmassare · · Score: 1

    I made a road trip from California to Vermont and back this June. I started off using Simple Mobile which operates on the T-Mobile network because it has the best connectivity at my home. Heading Northeast from San Diego through Utah and Western Colorado I had decent service through Denver. I lost service East of Denver and did not regain it again until half way through Kansas. Coverage between Kansas and Vermont was generally satisfactory except in some extremely rural areas. On my return trip I was a bit concerned about weather conditions and decided that I wanted better data coverage. I bought a prepaid Straight Talk sim kit at a Walmart in Ohio and switched over. The sim kit has sims for connectivity on the T-Mobile and AT&T GSM networks as well as provisions for connecting on the Verizon and Sprint CDMA networks. I selected the AT&T sim and I had pretty good coverage through Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and North Dakota as long as I was on a major highway. Coverage in Montana was a bit spotty because we were headed to Glacier National Park near the Canadian border. I had good coverage all the way down the West coast. The cost is reasonable at $45 for 30 days unlimited talk, text and 5 GB of 4G LTE data and unlimited 2G data after the 5 GB is used up.

    1. Re:Look Into Straight Talk at Walmart by Jhon · · Score: 1

      Their unlimited 2g is at 64kbps. And insane latency.

      That said, I have straight talk and I'm quite happy with it. I rarely go over 3GB in a month (since I have wifi at home and work).

  22. Where in the USA? by maeka · · Score: 1

    If only in major metro areas T-Mobile has good coverage.

    If always within range of an interstate AT+T will cover you well and be compatible with most European devices.

    If in rural North Dakota, etc Verizon's 3G is the only game in town.

    1. Re:Where in the USA? by Macman408 · · Score: 1

      +1 to this. Verizon almost always has the best coverage (though right now, I'm vacationing in a spot that has AT&T but not Verizon, surprisingly). AT&T has good coverage of interstates and any city of probably at least 10,000 or more. Smaller cities may or may not have great coverage. T-Mobile and Sprint are less expensive, if you're willing to sacrifice coverage, though they're usually good near urban areas.

  23. Ask about the NSA discount - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're opted in regardless but doing so knowingly might get you a discount.

  24. Pay a lot or give up on good coverage by Kohath · · Score: 1

    Verizon is the only good choice for good coverage outside of cities. You will pay a lot. If you don't want to pay a lot, then get something cheap and spend your time looking for free wifi. There's no really good, inexpensive option.

    The US is vast. It will be a long time before all the networks fill in their coverage holes and have to mostly compete on price. If bandwidth keeps increasing, it may be forever.

  25. AT&T MiFi Liberate by slashgordo. · · Score: 1

    I've used an AT&T MiFi Liberate over the past 2.5 years, and it has met my expectations. However, I'm about to drop them because of their price. Their cheapest package is 5 GB for $50/month. I don't need that much data, and you don't get refunds or rollovers for unused data. If you had an Android, you can define metered Wi-Fi networks by going to Settings -> Data usage -> [vertical 3 dots] -> Network restrictions, and toggle on the Wi-Fi SSIDs that aren't unlimited. I don't know if iOS has anything similar.

  26. Cut out the middle man by xx_chris · · Score: 1

    The NSA.

  27. Verizon by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 2

    I traveled the US for a year from 2013 to 2014 and my [unlimited] LTE service from Verizon was better than any WiFi service I got from resorts and hotels except at three locations For the first half of the trip, I tethered through my Galaxy Nexus phone. For the second half, I used a Galaxy S5. My switch to the S5 happened around the time Verizon started rolling out XLTE in major cities and the speed increase was noticeable. I got up to 80 megs down and 40 up near Atlanta. Verizon's expensive but they have the best coverage. I've also used T-Mobile and AT&T but T-Mobile's coverage was miserable and AT&T couldn't reliably deliver data.

  28. Re: Traveling is for cows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're off your game, sexconker. Not even a "T-MOOOOOBILE" for good measure? C'mon... might be time to hang it up.

  29. Depends on exaclty where you go by davidwr · · Score: 1

    If you know where you are going, you'll be able to get the best solution for you by seeing who offers good service in those locations.

    Otherwise, go with one of the big carriers like ATT, Sprint, or Verizon or one of their re-sellers. If you were only traveling in big cities I would add T-Mobile to that list but since you say you are traveling in rural areas, I would only get them if you are sure they cover the areas you are in.

    If you a lot of data (say, more than 10GB/month or so), you may be better off getting a multi-SIM hotspot or multiple hotspots, and use the one that gives you the best bandwidth at the time you need it. I say this because in some areas you'll get 4G or LTE on one carrier but only 3G or even worse on another carrier, or you'll get a very congested signal on one carrier but a much less congested one on another.

    Sadly, in many rural areas that are away from heavily-traveled roads you'll be stuck with either less-than-3G coverage or "roaming" coverage from a non-major-brand cell service provider, which can get expensive fast. Make sure your plan includes free or at least reasonably-priced off-network data roaming so you don't get sticker shock at the end of the month.

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  30. H2O Bolt Wireless 4G by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    I have been a fan of H2O Bolt Wireless 4G service.
    Basically, it's re-branded AT&T service.
    https://bolt.h2owirelessnow.co...

  31. Since you're soliciting people's opinions by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 1

    You could also ask which is better, vi or emacs.

    1. Re:Since you're soliciting people's opinions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      vi, if you want universal availability. If you want a program that is dedicated to being a text editor, and aren't afraid to learn a bunch of keystrokes, vi is probably your best bet.

      emacs if you want a text editor with all kinds of options, including enough functionality to provide a multi-tasking windowing environment. If you want to be able to run the gdb debugger with more information on the screen, and the idea of running programs like an E-Mail client and a web browser in sub-windows seems appealing to you, then lean towards emacs.

      If you want an editor that is relatively easy to learn and yet powerful enough to get simple text editing done, and doesn't take up too terribly much of your screen's space to provide information to you, and these things seem more interesting than massive customizations/add-ons/etc., nano is currently the most popular option that is likely to be pre-installed. (ee, pre-installed in FreeBSD and addable by others, is even easier as long as you know to press Esc to show the menu, though takes more keystrokes for some simple tasks.)

      gedit, if you have GNOME installed and don't want to be installing other things, but don't like things that are so complicated that they require holding the Ctrl key.

      xedit, if you are looking for a way to inflict torture. Generally worse off than if you tried redirecting cat.

      See, some topics can be addressed with rather uncontested details. When I have Verizon staff tell me that they expect to never compete with T-Mobile or some others on having the lowest monthly service prices, I tend to believe him.

    2. Re: Since you're soliciting people's opinions by Stewie241 · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's fair to say opinion. There are objective metrics that can be optimized for (price, coverage, speed). So an objective factual response is possible. Though the vi/emacs question is similar I guess - vi is objectively better and it is foolish to argue otherwise.

  32. Verizon - Look at their Map by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verizon has the best coverage nation wide in the US, no question. I've used AT&T and T-Mobile. T-Mobile only works in populated areas, AT&T drops calls (used for 10 years). I've driven across country many times, the only carrier with -more coverage- then Verizon's coverage is a SAT COM. You can also look at each carrier's coverage maps.

  33. I've got several trucker friends by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    and they all carried multiple phones from multiple carriers. I'll second the "not t-mobile" crowd though. IIRC there was an arstechnica article that talked about the problem, they don't own much of the kind of bandwidth that lets you cover large distances. So they're 4G is fast but if you get out of a populated area you're not getting signal.

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  34. Wilson Electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi,
    Buy an [automotive] WE - weBoost cellular booster. Drive 4G-S. weBoost also offers other automotive and residential boosters. The 4G-S ($180) can be quickly installed and removed from a car/truck. I don't work for Wilson Electronics.

  35. Three "feel at home" from UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For £15 you can get a sim with 20GB of data to use in a month in the US (or indeed a bunch of other countries) with their "feel at home" policy. Even better, it will roam to any network which helps with coverage issues! The one catch is that the bundled voice and minutes are only valid to UK numbers... but the post does ask about data specifically. I actually just used this for a 2 week holiday in California, and it was great -- was either getting reception from AT&T or TMobile.

    Not sure on obtaining these sim cards outside the UK, but imagine it must be possible.

    Further discussion on internet, e.g.:

    http://kenstechtips.com/index.php/threes-feel-at-home

  36. Re:Dual Sim phone (#50416401) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (#50416401) was posted by an iPhone user (in case you couldn't guess).

  37. T-Mobile by bjoeg · · Score: 1

    Hey anonymous Scandinavian neighbor.

    I have myself been in your shoes, and never seemed to get a proper answer, simply because the US mobile market seems totally screwed compared to the "Scandinavian" offers.

    I travel to US often too, and have ended up in using T-Mobile starting with a $30 Walmart Starter pack. It had unlimited talk, text and "unlimited" data with 5GB on 4G (EDGE after 5GB).

    I wanted to keep the number, so when home I change the plan to "Pay as you go" (no roaming available) which is a $3 monthly plan, this is just to keep the phone number. If you don't need it you can discard it.
    When I return to US I simply change the plan to whatever suits me (usually $80 everything unlimited plan).

    I usually travel west coast, but coverage has been fine, though some holes in desert/rural areas. And yeah even on 4G there can be areas where speed is slow as EDGE probably due to overloaded cells.

    If you go for this idea, there are some things to remember.
    - If you want to keep the number you have to register an account with My-Tmobile while in US due to SMS activation (since international roaming is an extra service/fee)
    - When changing plans there is a turn period. Usually I change the plan near my departure and make a chat session with customer service and ask them to make the change of plan immediately, rather than have to wait. Funny enough, downgrading a plan is effective immediately.

    Of course this might not be the best or cheapest option, but it was the easiest and has been for me.
    The Google Fi project has been looking promising, but the requirement of a Nexus phone does not please me.

    1. Re:T-Mobile by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Hey anonymous Scandinavian neighbor.

      I have myself been in your shoes

      So that explains why my best shoes were missing for a few weeks. They smelled a bit funny too. I wanted to let you know how funny, so I set up this propeller to transfer the olfactory information. I call it the "FYI fan".

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  38. dual sim card works wonders... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the US carries I have tried suck. I just changed from Sprint to T-Mobil because Sprint sold me a "world phone" that could not, and never would work over seas. Verision makes a habit of doing things and getting class action sued for basically double charging for services. All the while they treat their costumers like a criminal. I would say just buy a dual sim phone and get a local sim when you get here, and ask around to see what gets the best service where you are travelling.

  39. Some clarification needed by itsdapead · · Score: 1

    For £15 you can get a sim with 20GB of data to use in a month in the US

    This is probably the solution... if you live in the UK and visit the US for short periods. Yes, any voice calls to/from US phones count as "international" but if you call home it just counts as normal minutes. Yes, even if you have the 'unlimited data' plan, you only get 25GB when you're in the US - but that's probably still better than the locals are getting.

    However it only makes sense if you live in the UK and use Three as your regular network. ISTR you need to have been subscribed for a month before they'll enable roaming. I assume that you can't sign up without a UK address - even if you can it's not going to make sense. So its not going to be a solution for our Scandinavian OP.

    Unless some Scandinavian networks are offering a similar deal....

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    1. Re: Some clarification needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadle, They are not. "Three" in Scandinavia does have good roaming prices in most of the eu. But is does not cover the U.S. As the British version does. :(

  40. Verizon iPad mini by gozar · · Score: 1

    Get a Verizon iPad mini and use the prepaid plan on it. You'll get the best coverage, a wifi hotspot, and a tablet. :-)

    The tablet plan is cheaper than the Mifi plan for some reason, unless I'm reading their plans wrong.

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  41. Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one calling bullshit on this?

    I get 100GB monthly traffic with my Scandinavian provider for the same price as 6-8 GB montly in the US, which I guess could be a problem with our Apple phones as they do not recognize a metered WiFi hotspot.

    Your phone doesn't know the hotspot is metered. It has no way of knowing that the hotspot has a data cap. The cap is implemented by the service provided on their end of thing.

    1. Re:Am I the only one? by larwe · · Score: 1

      >Your phone doesn't know the hotspot is metered. It has no way of knowing that the hotspot has a data cap. Yeah, but on most other operating systems you can tell the device that certain SSIDs are metered connections, so it will not do things like downloading 2GB OS updates over that link in the background.

  42. Use an MVNO like Page Plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't go with any of the big carriers directly like Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, etc.; instead go with a reseller. They are expensive because they operate lots of brick & mortar stores, for years prices assumed a subsidized phone, etc. If you go with them you may as well pay someone to wipe your ass too, because that's basically what you're doing.

    MVNOs rebrand the service from the major carriers but at a lower cost. I use Page Plus Cellular. This is on Verizon's network; I use an old Verizon-branded phone I had before. I've noticed zero degredation in network service after switching to Page Plus from Verizon. A big downside is that roaming off of Verizon's network is not free (phone says "Extended Network" instead of "Verizon Wireless"). This never happens in my home state of TN. Another downside is there isn't a local B&M store I can go to to bitch & complain if I have a problem. At $12/month instead of $$$$, these are reasonable compromises for me to still get Verizon-level network service.

  43. Lower your expectations by sdxxx · · Score: 1

    Basically, the high-level answer is that you probably aren't going to find exactly what you want. I've had all four major providers in recent years. Pretty much anything else you get is going to be a MVNO reselling one of the big four. (Google Fi is different in that it's reselling both Sprint and T-mobile.) Here is my experience, primarily in California, but also in several places I travel to on the East Coast:

    * Sprint can be borderline useless. The coverage was so bad that I missed many phone calls. And the data coverage completely fails in shocking places, like, say downtown San Francisco. I used a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint for 18 months and was miserable.

    * T-mobile has the best plans. You can get unlimited high-speed data pretty easily (which is not the same as what they call unlimited data) and use it for tethering (google "tether_dun_required"). Moreover, unlike other carriers, they are transparent about their throttling policies. If you are in the top 3% of data users (over 21GB/month), you get deprioritized, but not throttled.

    * Verizon has the best coverage, but you will pay through the nose for the 100GB/month you intend to use. Also, for iPhone it might matter less, but Verizon seems to be the most aggressive about "customizing" their Android phones with bloatware and value-reducing software. For example, they make it hard to tether. Even on my rooted Nexus 6 I can't figure out how to tether with the stock android distro, because it installed some kind of crap when I inserted the Verizon sim. Note that you *can* buy grandfathered unlimited high-speed data plans on ebay, but this is going to be super expensive for you, and probably not work if you can't do post-paid. Also, it doesn't seem like a good investment for the future, because they can take your plan away. (I had an unlimited data plan on 3G, and they wouldn't give me a SIM card for 4G unless I changed to a metered plan.)

    * AT&T seems like a not great compromise between T-mobile and Verizon. The coverage is better than T-mobile, but nowhere near as universal as Verizon. Particularly in California, there are many places AT&T does not work. AT&T also doesn't have great data plans, and customizes their phones more than T-mobile. A few years ago, AT&T's voice quality was really bad. I dropped them after doing an experiment where swapping the SIM card for a T-mobile one into the same phone made call quality noticeably better.

    So after many years of switching between carriers and finding none is perfect, I now have two phones. I use a T-mobile phone for day-to-day stuff and (of course) when traveling internationally, and a Verizon phone for when I'm in areas with no coverage. I also have a Verizon hotspot, which I use for data. And when the Verizon hotspot stops working well because I'm surrounded by too many other data hogs, I switch over to tethering with T-mobile (whose network seems to be less loaded in the places I travel).

    So my high-level message to someone who wants to come to the US 3-4 times a year and use 100GB of data in rural areas but not pay too much? Lower your expectations, as you will have to compromise on something.

  44. Re: Dual Sim phone (#50416401) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Douchebag alert!

  45. Non by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Face facts. The USA has the GREATEST 1830s telecommunication system on Planet EARTH.

    So just throw away your android phone at the boarder or else TSA will nip it and forget WIFI for the notebook.

    Ha ha

  46. My recommendation. by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

    I highly recommend FreedomPop. They have an inexpensive hotspot and give you up to 200MB free.Here is a link to their 4G hotspot.

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  47. It depends ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The US is huge, but at least we don't have to get a different cell provider just to go 200 miles.

    Verizon has the best coverage overall - that is due to NOT using GSM. GSM sucks.

    Sprint only works in certain cities and along interstates in more populated areas. It is NOT GSM either.

    AT&T and t-mobile use GSM. ATT's network is much larger, but don't believe their coverage maps. In hilly areas GSM completely sucks. Just ask anyone around RDU about **any** cell coverage. Basically, everyone I know there has to drive to the top of a hill to get any coverage.

    All the others are regional or ride on someone else's network.

    I use t-mobile, because I don't actually need a cell phone, but want to keep a cheap plan. It used to cost me $10/yr before t-mobile decided to screw me for $3/month. It is still the cheapest annual phone offer for seldom-use people like me. I buy minutes annually. When I travel in the USA, I enable the 1-day or 7-day data plans. Even with the price gouging, it saves money over a monthly plan.

    All the other plans expire every 90 days, which I find offensive. OTOH, all data providers in the USA are "offensive" - wired, wireless - they all suck, ripoff their customers, service blows and over promise on everything.

    If you are in the Colorado Rockies or rural Montana, Texas, NV, WV, GA, AL, TN, NE, .... you can forget about having any data.
    If you stay on well traveled interstates - it should be mostly fine, though I know were my calls are dropped between Atlanta and RDU on I-85 going around hills.

    Anyone need expired SIMs from South Africa, London, Spain, Italy, Thailand, Singapore, Japan, Korea, Nepal, Turkey?

  48. Here's what I've been doing the past 10 years by stefanb · · Score: 1

    I feel you. My wife and I travel to the US once or twice a year, and do want continuous connectivity. My experience: pay-as-you-go for data sucks in the US. Coverage is a problem. Americans can't call non-US numbers. If you want to use your cell connection as a broadband replacement, expect to pay through the nose.

    Since some of our family live in the boondocks, T-Mobile and Sprint are not really an option, and even AT&T coverage is spotty. Having driven extensively through "fly over" country, Verizon seems to be the only provider with close to full coverage. As others have pointed out here, if you're mostly staying in cities (100k+), you might be OK with the others as well.

    For the last four years, we had a Mifi on contract ($50/month), with 5G of data. Until this year, Verizon allowed suspending the contract when we were out of the country, and re-activating it just before we got to the US again. Unfortunately, the suspension is now limited to a max. of 90 days per year. Since most of our friends and family don't have international calls enabled on their contracts, they can't call our European numbers. So we did continue to have an AT&T Go SIM ($100/year to keep the account active). As others have pointed out, the pay-as-you-go options don't have international roaming enabled, or might not even offer it (boo AT&T), so dealing with that from abroad can be a pain. Before that, we tried various options, including VirginMobile (uses Sprint) and T-Mobile.

    We've now convinced a friend to get us on his family plan with Verizon, and we have one iPhone (incl. tethering) on there for $15/month. We're sharing his 12GB data, which is good enough for our purposes. Since the phone is on contract, international roaming is available. We did buy the phone, so there's no SIM lock on it, and we can use it with other SIMs.

    While in the US, we use about 1GB per week. Most nights, we're somewhere where we have Wifi, so it's mostly on the move usage (navigation in the car, music, FB posts, etc.) Hotel wifi mostly sucks, so when we're staying in a hotel, we're using the cell data. For large downloads or uploads, we try and wait until we're back on Wifi, but I've been syncing my photos and videos with iCloud and Dropbox as I'm taking them, so we're not completely constraining ourselves.

  49. Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verizon has the best coverage nationwide. They have more deals to piggyback on other carriers towers than anyone else in addition to their large and geographically spread out tower infrastructure they own. I've been all over the US outside if urban areas and Verizon works best. I also live in a rural area in the midwest. The closest interstates are "only" 30 and 40 miles away, but my relatives that have visited with AT&T and Sprint have zero coverage at my house. US Cellular seems to be a close second to Verizon in coverage. Half my family is Verizon and the other half is US Cellular and we're all scattered over the Midwest mostly in rural areas.

  50. I do the same. by MercTech · · Score: 1

    I'm going the other direction. I'm from the U.S. but frequently work contracts in Canada.

    Consider getting a dual sim phone. (Yeah, the providers really don't want to mention you can have two phone numbers and two providers in one phone) One SIM is AT&T for the U.S. and the other in my phone is Virgin Mobile for Canada.

    AT&T and Verizon have the greatest footprint for coverage in the U.S. T-Mobile and Sprint have better plans but rarely have signal except in urban areas or along major highways. You know where you are going and can decide if coverage is a bigger issue than cost.

    I chose Virgin Mobile in Canada as they piggy back on Bell Canada that has the most extensive coverage. (Yeah, I often work out in the boondocks) You can do the same in the U.S. by picking an economy carrier that piggy backs on either Verizon or AT&T.

    Link to an article at PC-World on economy carriers in the U.S. and they let you know which major network they piggy back on.
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2878298/10-alternative-carriers-that-can-save-you-serious-cash-on-your-smartphone-bill.html

        I use a dual SIM phone made by BLU (Bold Like Us). http://www.bluproducts.com/ They are only sold direct and not by any of the carriers. Dual SIM BLU phone with 5000mAh battery can be found on Amazon or eBay.

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    1. Re:I do the same. by sdxxx · · Score: 1

      For Mexico and Canada, T-mobile might be a good option, if you are in urban areas, as their new plans allow free roaming an calling in Mexico and Canada. Just got back from a week in Mexico and my phone worked great. Zero surcharges for international roaming, either voice or data. When you cross the border you get a text saying, "relax, your phone works just the same in Mexico as in the US." That's almost true. The only think I couldn't do is call US toll free numbers from Mexico.

  51. AT&T vs. Verizon by mcswell · · Score: 2

    I've always used Verizon (for several years now via Straighttalk), because on paper their coverage outside of cities looks better than the rest, including AT&T. But on several recent road trips between Baltimore and West Virginia on I-70 and I-68, I've had zero (as in zilch, none, nada) Verizon coverage from Hagerstown MD west to and including Fairmont WV, while my daughter's AT&T (Straighttalk) has fine coverage almost all the way. So I'm wondering whether the on-line maps I've found are really accurate. http://opensignal.com/ does seem to show Verizon disappearing past Hagerstown, and AT&T continuing, which at least in this case seems to match reality.

    How reality is outside of the couple areas I've traveled, I don't know. Along the interstate is usually good, off that...YMMV.

  52. Get a 3 SIM in Sweden and travel freely with it. by GreatDrok · · Score: 1

    Last time I was in the UK, I bought a SIM from 3 and one of the features I didn't realise at the time was that I could use my phone abroad with that SIM exactly as I had in the UK. After I finished in the UK, I flew to Denmark and when I fired up the phone 3DK welcomed me to their network allowing me to use my unlimited UK data and also call and be called from UK numbers as if I was still in the UK. This was amazing based on previous experience with roaming from country to country. I drove over to Sweden and the same thing happened. Now that's all well and good, but what about the US? Turns out, when I landed in LAX, I was welcomed to AT&T's network and my unlimited data continued to work (3G only but still, not bad) and then I flew on to NZ and found myself on 2Degrees and still the phone and data worked. If you're not already with 3, I would strongly suggest switching. You can always buy a local cheap phone in the US for doing calls to US numbers, or do as I did and get some Skype credit which will go over the data.

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  53. Best coverage seems to be Verizon, by JRHodel · · Score: 1

    Especially in rural areas. It is the only service that is available for reception at our winter camp in Arizona, and is more widely available in West Virginia than other cell companies. Their hot spot only costs $25 for the hardware, and it works in rural areas where geography doesn't interfere with connections to the cell network.

    They offer 12 GB monthly if I recall their advertising correctly, but you are correct, it isn't cheap.

    Good luck. We are so screwed compared to Europe, Japan, S Korea, etc. Terrible availability, tiny bandwidth for data, terrific prices for the companies, all of them.

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