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There Is No .bro In Brotli: Google/Mozilla Engineers Nix File Type As Offensive
theodp writes: Several weeks ago, Google launched Brotli, a new open source compression algorithm for the web. Since then, controversy broke out over the choice of 'bro' as the content encoding type. "We are hoping to establish a file ending .bro for brotli compressed files, a command line tool 'bro' for compressing and uncompressing brotli files, and a accept/content encoding type 'bro'," explained Google software engineer Jyrki Alakuijala. "Can I talk you out of it?," replied Mozilla SW engineer Patrick McManus. "'bro' has a gender problem, even though the dual meaning is unintentional. It comes of[f] misogynistic and unprofessional due to the world it lives in." Despite some pushback from commenters, a GitHub commit made by Google's Zoltan Szabadka shows that there will be no '.bro' in Brotli. "I have asked a feminist friend from the North American culture-sphere, and she advised against bro," explained Alakuijala. "We have found a compromise that satisfies us, so we don't need to discuss this further. Even if we don't understand why people are upset from our cultural standpoint, they would be (unnecessarily) upset and this is enough reason not to use it."
Call it .sis or .vag, that'll work, right?
Male bad, female good?
Who says that?
Or failing that, perhaps they could not read gender politics into a three letter file extension.
I guess the FAT filesystem has to go too.
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Even PC principal says .bro
I guess they just didn't want to throw down.
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Call it 'Bratli' and use '.bra' as an extension instead; problem solved! :-)
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
"bro' has a gender problem"
No. North America has a gender problem.
Have the claims of victimhood progressed so far that this is considered offensive? Wow.
Fuck those shrieking harpies. /yes, I am being offensive on purpose.
-- Will program for bandwidth
Of course not! Don't you know discrimination requires prejudice plus power. Obviously Symbian lacks the market share to have discriminatory file practices.
Brazil is gonna have a hell of a time with the Olympics next year.
Oh, I think they'll have plenty of support...
You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
God was niggardly with the sense of humor dispensing.
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
...and they want their 3-letter filename extensions back. Seriously, "br" would be fine, as well as "brot" or even "brotli". It amazes me that, 20 years after MS/DOS basically reached its end-of-life, people are still thinking within those constraints.
Sit, Ubuntu, sit. Good dog.
Get a sense of humor
Friend, there is something I've been saying for decades now: The surest way to ruin a Good Thing is to get a bunch of people involved in it. That's what's happening here: There are too many people in the world, and more to the point too many people on the Internet, and it's just ruining everything for everyone because whereas it's actually a small percentage of people who might get offended at something so small, that small percentage represents a huge number of people, who are not going to allow themselves to be ignored. Case in point: I work at a large technology corporation. There is a small software tool that developers use, and a 32-bit hexadecimal value that shows up in one dialog box defaults to the hex value "DEADBEEF". Clever, right? Also harmless and not at all intended to be offensive. But someone got offended and they made them change it. Stupid, isn't it? Get enough people together and collectively they don't have a sense of humor anymore.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
Centuries ago, you got into serious problems if you ran around claiming you have a mission to fulfil the devil gave you. Now, this gets replaced by feminism, and everybody who doesn't join in the holy movement is an infidel who should be punished. The level of intolerance towards people who aren't "feminists" is raising and raising.
If they really wanted to help women, they should go to india, help solving its rape problem, or to saudi arabia, where women get stoned when they sleep with men who aren't their husband.
Damn feminists, grow a pair!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
It's not just america. Parts of Europe have it, too.
.Bro? I prefer .Manzier .
#DeleteChrome
Respect is something you earn. Whining rarely accomplishes that.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
The end of the patriarchy. And it is awesome. 50000 years of injustice are about to be unravelled.
Because nothing says "We're strong enough to take over!" like screaming "I need to be protected!" whenever dealing with such horrible things as "offensive file extensions".
rant:
I've got a one step solution to all of this:
1. Stop giving a fuck until these morons grow up and actually have a real issue to present.
Seriously, every time I read shit like this, I wonder what kind of fucked in the head woman read / heard / whatever the material. Because a rational person would not read ".bro" and immediately think of "Gender inequality!" A person who would is either seriously fucked up in the head, or out to get something by taking advantage of others. This needs to stop. It's not solving any real issue and it takes away focus from the real issues that need to be addressed. For example: Equal pay regardless of gender, better support for abuse victims, etc.
As for the sane women out there, 1. I apologize, but it needed, and still needs, to be said. 2. You need to start decrying these abusers and force them off the stage. Because for every single time you bring up a real issue that does need to be addressed, people think of these abusers and that puts them into a mindset of suspicion of intent, or just an outright unwillingness to help you.
So now a gender is "misogynistic"?
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Yet another example of political-correctness gone insane. People are not upset, some SJWarrier decides to be insulted by 'bro' and therefore it must be changed. Anyone who says different is a misogynist. Enough of the PC bullshit already. If some people decide to be insulted by some aspect of contemporary culture then that's their prerogative. It's got nothing to do with me, I am under no compulsion to adjust my behaviour or opinions to suit them.
Frat boys call each other bro, such that it becomes part of a stereotype.
Feminists start using the word as a slur to evoke the stereotype in order to ridicule anyone they perceive as too masculine.
People start using bro ironically in a totally different context.
Feminists lose their shit and call *that* "offensive".
I'm guessing what they're really upset about is their insult losing its negative connotation.
A few weeks ago I posted this: http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Usually it's nice to have an(other) example to illustrate a point.
In this case, not so much.
Get a sense of humor.
Sorry. I hear it's surgically removed when you become an SJW.
My name is a trigger word.
Except .vag is taken by ADPCM audio on the PlayStation 1 and 2.
Problem is you can't really ignore it. Every time some professional victim comes around whining about how much their life sucks (which their life only sucks because they think it sucks -- ask any psychologist this question, they'll agree with me) then we start getting stupid laws that make everybody else bend over backwards for the professional victims.
Take for example all of the lawsuits against businesses for not complying with ADA rules, even when the supposed "victim" didn't even try to go the business they're suing.
Constant total IQ being spread out over an ever increasing number of people?
And nothing says "I'm smart" like falling for an obvious troll.
It's so obvious, it's hard to *not* use.
Could even have an mascot of such a warrior.
Sorry. I hear it's surgically removed when you become an SJW.
As amply demonstrated by the SJWs who down-modded my comment.
Still, I did hear a really funny left-wing joke the other day:
"An Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman walk into a bar."
"SEXIST!"
EFI is the new boot standard, which will probably be the standard for 30 years or so. It boots from a FAT volume. On FAT, the real file names (which must be unique) are 8.3. Long "names" are stored as a secondary attribute of the file. Thus, three-letter extensions are still a major standard, and will be for decades.
> As amply demonstrated by the SJWs who down-modded my comment.
If you are arguing that people shouldn't be so sensitive, your whining about being downmodded isn't doing your cause any favors.
And yet, somehow, the men of slashdot are the ones that have their panties in a bunch.
No, we just like to bait SJWs because it's such tremendous fun. The most harmless of words can make them explode into a dazzling display of insane babble... there's nowhere else you can have as much fun with so little effort.
the men of slashdot
Oh, and can I just say... SEXIST!
are the ones that have their panties in a bunch.
TRANSEXIST!
Report to the Re-Education camp for processing, Citizen Anonymous Coward.
GIMP is fantastic software, but it's audience is tiny relative to Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Tinder, etc. If you're aiming at a large audience you've got to mind your PR a little better than calling your product GIMP.
The limited use of GIMP has very little to do with its name, and very, very, very much to do with its appalling, abysmal, clunky, counterintuitive user interface. For example, developers who do stupid things like removing the ability to save as anything other than GIMP's own .xcf format from the 'save as' dialog, thereby making it even less intuitive and even less compatible with any other GUI app out there.
I mean, seriously, when I have to search the web to find out how to save a .jpg with a new GIMP release, the UI is fscked.
Think about it for a second. Things are so great for women in the western world that this is what generates complaints. When the complaints are I get hit with rocks trying to go to school, or they cut off my clitoris then you know you are living in a hell hole. Those women don't have time to worry about .bro extensions. When it gets down to the only complaints being file extensions it's means thing are pretty damn good.
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.
I assume the objection is a gag. Nobody is this brainless.
SJW's are, so are 3rd wave feminists. Which of course is why you now see popular culture starting to mocking them. And why 82% of women no longer call themselves feminists, rather they're following egalitarianism or something along those lines. They already know that modern feminism has a man-hatred problem, and large numbers of people see a serious problem with SJWs and their public attacks on people, and being perpetually outraged.
Om, nomnomnom...
replied Mozilla SW engineer Patrick McManus
Pretty sure that should read "replied Mozilla SJW engineer Patrick McManus"
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I've got a one step solution to all of this: 1. Stop giving a fuck until these morons grow up and actually have a real issue to present.
Although I agree with every word that you've said, would you not agree that there might be some objection to the following file extensions:
.jew for racial profiling data
.old for genealogy data
.ass for anatomical data
.bro has not yet reached it, but clearly we are getting closer and closer.
The fact is that there does exist a border where some three letter combinations are seen as having meaning, that is the whole purpose that letters were invented in the first place. The question is _where_ is the line drawn. You and I agree that
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
I disagree - we do have a gender problem. To be acceptable to the social justice sector, males must be emasculated and impotent. I've had recent dealings with some silly cunt who occcupies a "human relations" position. She makes it pretty obvious that she doesn't like men very much, and she especially doesn't like men who speak their minds. If there are any men whom she actually approves of, then they are men who are intimidated by her.
To be fair, she doesn't very much like women who aren't intimidated, either. My boss, a female, has had some rounds with the SJW bitch as well.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
Brot means bread in German. In some German speaking regions brotli means little roll. The world doesn't have English as mother tongue.
A perjorative label is useful when the target is not only wrong, but wrong in a way sufficiently obvious or well-known that they do not merit the time required to write a detailed refutation of their argument. Sometimes an argument is so pathetic that the correct response is not refutation but outright mockery.
The suite of arguments characterized as 'SJW' is quite wide, and a lot of them do have serious merit - for example, the 'damsel in distress' is overused in computer games. The problem with the SJW crowd is that they use overwhelmingly poor arguments, ridiculous arguments, and do so in a most obnoxious manner. As we see in this case: Someone, somewhere, cannot see the letters 'bro' used as a contraction for a type of pastry without concluding that this is actually a conspiracy of programmers in the male-dominated world of technology to intimidate females out of the field by creating a hostile work environment.
The root of the problem is one that can also be seen in many with a single-minded dedication to a religion or to another political cause. To a person who owns only a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. To a person who has made the crusade against sexism a central pillar of their identity, *everything* looks sexist. Including a .bro file extension. Same applies to race, too.
I invite posters to list below everything that offends. I expect a long list, so I'll start the ball (!) rolling:
I'm really, DEEPLY offended that some random people on the internet decided to change a file extension for a file format I have never used and have no say in. It offends me to my very core for reasons I can't fully explain.
Yes, I am being sarcastic about a large number of comments on this thread from the permanently offended crowd.
It's a file extension and it's not yours. Person gets to change it if he likes for any reason he likes. Don't like that it's not ".bro" any more? Well, your only recourse is to whine all over the internet about it.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
We're offended that open source projects have to waste time considering this kind of PC femi-nazi stupidity, and moreover that they then cave into it.