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Military Blimp Breaks Free and Drifts Over the Mid-Atlantic Trailing Tether (baltimoresun.com)

McGruber writes: The Baltimore Sun reports that a military surveillance blimp has broken free of its mooring at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland and was last seen drifting at 16,000 ft over Pennsylvania. The 243-foot-long, helium-filled JLENS (Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System) aerostat detached from its mooring at about 11:54 a.m. Wednesday. It was trailing approximately 6,700 feet of cable. "Anyone who sees the aerostat is advised to contact 911 immediately," spokeswoman Heather Roelker said. "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

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  1. Catastrophic Failure? by RumGunner · · Score: 5, Interesting

    FTFA: "Raytheon, the contractor that makes the blimps, says the cable is unlikely to break.

    "The chance of that happening is very small because the tether is made of Vectran and has withstood storms in excess of 100 knots," the company said on its website. "However, in the unlikely event it does happen, there are a number of procedures and systems in place which are designed to bring the aerostat down in a safe manner.""

    So what exactly happened? The cable broke, AND they are unable to get the blimp to safely land?

    1. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's funny, because one of the operators was just interviewed on CNN. He stated it was NOT uncommon for the tether to break, and it happened several times in Afghanistan. One even broke loose and went into Iran.

      Someone is lying, and my bet it's Raytheon, because government contracts lie and commit fraud all the time.

    2. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If it is Vectran, the tether is a rope. When I hear cable, I usually think metal, Vectran is not metallic.

    3. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by trevc · · Score: 1

      And I wonder how much the taxpayer paid for this "Vectran" rope and saftey systems. Will we get a refund?

    4. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Vectran makes sense, it has a better strength to weight ratio than steel. The only downside is that it degrades if exposed to sunlight, which if it has a cover would not be a problem.

    5. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well since another article states they are tied up with a 10,000 foot rope... I'm not sure your inference stands up to scrutiny.

    6. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Talderas · · Score: 1

      JLENS is supposed to float at 10,000 feet so I would say it doesn't sound like a mooring point failure.

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    7. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      It was made in China

    8. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by cyn1c77 · · Score: 1

      Let's translate:

      FTFA: "Raytheon, the contractor that makes the blimps, says the cable is unlikely to break.

      "The chance of that happening is very small because the tether is made of Vectran and has withstood storms in excess of 100 knots," the company said on its website.

      Clearly this was a terrorist attack by mother nature, because since our product has never failed in any previous storm it would not fail in a future storm. Due to this attack, more blimps are needed to protect the existing blimps.

      "However, in the unlikely event it does happen, there are a number of procedures and systems in place which are designed to bring the aerostat down in a safe manner.""

      For example, gravity will bring the aerostat down safely, eventually. In addition to gravity, we may also use F-16's to shoot it down, but only over Canada.

  2. Save the Helium! by neoritter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh please, think of all that precious Helium!!!!

    1. Re:Save the Helium! by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Hydrogen was the lowest bidder. So we are all good and safe.

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    2. Re:Save the Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Interesting aside: It was the filling of these two aerostats that exhausted the US supply of Helium a year or two ago.

    3. Re:Save the Helium! by istartedi · · Score: 1

      We're deeing thee beest theet we keen. Theer wheel be pleenty eave helium. Treest eece.

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  3. Should have used Duck Tape by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

    Raytheon, which produces the aircraft, described the likelihood that the tether would break as "very small."

    "The chance of that happening is very small because the tether is made of Vectran and has withstood storms in excess of 100 knots," the Raytheon website stated on its website before the blimp became unmoored.

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    1. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Both duct tape and duck tape are acceptable. In fact if anything "duck tape" is the more correct answer. From wikipedia:

      The first material called "duck tape" was long strips of plain cotton duck cloth used in making shoes stronger, for decoration on clothing, and for wrapping steel cables or electrical conductors to protect them from corrosion or wear.[2] For instance, in 1902, steel cables supporting the Manhattan Bridge were first covered in linseed oil then wrapped in duck tape before being laid in place. ...

      After the war, the duck tape product was sold in hardware stores for household repairs. The Melvin A. Anderson Company of Cleveland, Ohio, acquired the rights to the tape in 1950.[15] It was commonly used in construction to wrap air ducts.[19] Following this application, the name "duct tape" came into use in the 1950s, along with tape products that were colored silvery gray like tin ductwork

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

    2. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      Duct tape. No one's abducting ducks

      https://tw-projects.s3.amazona...

    3. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

      Duct tape. No one's abducting ducks

      I beg to differ. I think there is a full length Shaun the Sheep documentary of just such an event. https://www.amazon.com/Duck-Bi...

      The scourge of abducktion is quite tragic.

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    4. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by schwit1 · · Score: 5, Funny
      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

      'than'

    5. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

        'than'

      Lol, *BOOM*, headshot!

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    6. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ya got me. Thats ok, I have nothing wrong with pedants when they are right. :)

    7. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by mwehle · · Score: 1

      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

      'than'

      What's that smell of smoke in here?

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    8. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by tsotha · · Score: 1

      When you find a comment like that, you just know there's a grammar mistake in there somewhere.

      Even if you've written it yourself.

    9. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by KGIII · · Score: 1

      If we're being pedantic then, and my English is not the best, I think there might be more:

      In fact if anything "duck tape" is the more correct answer.

      Maybe:

      In fact, if anything, "duct tape" is the more...

      I'm not sure that quotation marks are correct either.

      It might be:

      In fact, if anything, 'duct tape' is the more...

      As formatting is allowed, if I recall the writing standards, we might want to go with:

      In fact, if anything duct tape is the more...

      I mean, you know, if we're going to be pedantic... However, I use the shotgun approach with commas, so don't trust me.

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  4. Not A Blimp by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Informative

    A blimp is a powered craft. An aerostat is a tethered balloon.

    If it were a blimp -- even an unmanned blimp -- and it had fuel, they could just drive it back home.

    1. Re:Not A Blimp by Holi · · Score: 2

      Assuming anyone was onboard.

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    2. Re:Not A Blimp by McGruber · · Score: 1

      I called it a 'Blimp" because I figured it was on its way to Akron to reproduce.

    3. Re:Not A Blimp by audi100quattro · · Score: 1

      A balloon shaped like a blimp. The powered part would've cost more..

    4. Re:Not A Blimp by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      A blimp is a powered craft.

      Most sources I can find don't include being powered as a defining characteristic.

      An aerostat is a tethered balloon.

      That's what it was, but what is it now?

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  5. Proving.. by Coditor · · Score: 1

    I guess the Proving Ground proved it's not quite ready for prime time.

  6. Trial Balloon eh? by bobbied · · Score: 4, Funny

    So the military is sending up a trial balloon?

    I wonder what the reaction might be..

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    1. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      One down, 98 to go?

    2. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Reports of a balloon on the loose are, of course, false. It's more likely your everyday alien spacecraft.

    3. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by mwehle · · Score: 1

      Nena FTW!

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  7. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Crashed, causing widespread power outages.

    They're just saying it was a missile defense balloon to cover up the fact that it's SKYNET, and it's now sentient.

    The 243-foot-long, helium-filled JLENS (Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System) aerostat detached from its mooring at about 11:54 a.m. Wednesday. It was trailing approximately 6,700 feet of cable. "Anyone who sees the aerostat is advised to contact 911 immediately," spokeswoman Heather Roelker said. "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

    See? What'd I tell you. Fucking SKYNET.

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  8. Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the area by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    No one would have seen it, with the remnants of Hurricane Patricia hitting the area.

  9. I've seen this movie... by bosef1 · · Score: 1

    it eats Pittsburgh.

    1. Re:I've seen this movie... by khallow · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure I'm up for a horror movie with a rosy ending. That sort of thing just seems so fake.

  10. Danger? by fred911 · · Score: 1

    "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

    (from the various armed alphabet agents closely following)

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    1. Re:Danger? by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      It's already taken out one power line with its mooring cable. Short a high-voltage line, and you'll quite likely burn through it and drop the ends on the ground. If you're in the neighborhood, try to be under the non-hot side.

    2. Re:Danger? by MiniMike · · Score: 4, Funny

      "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

      RTFA. The airship was at 16000 feet altitude. It's very dangerous to be at that altitude unless you have an airplane, parachute, or other safety device. To be safe, people should keep about 14000 - 15600* feet away.

      (* ground elevation in this area varies from around 400 - 2000 feet, iirc)

    3. Re:Danger? by painandgreed · · Score: 2

      "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

      (from the various armed alphabet agents closely following)

      Besides just general boiler plate warning, it's quite conceivable that somebody coming across it might grab onto the tether. With an upgust they could be 50-100 feet off the ground before they realize how high they are and it's too late to let go. Then you just hope you can hold on longer than it takes for the thing to drift down again. Happened to a couple of zeppelin landing crew in the past as grabbing ahold of tethers and tying the things down is how you land a zeppelin.

  11. Re:drifting blimp by bobbied · · Score: 1

    Mistakes were made....

    Thank you Captain Obvious...

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  12. JLENS is a complete boondoggle by afidel · · Score: 2

    Billions spent and the stupid thing couldn't detect a man in an ultralight headed straight for the Capital, we need to cut our losses and scrap the thing already.

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    1. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by kencurry · · Score: 4, Funny

      Billions spent and the stupid thing couldn't detect a man in an ultralight headed straight for the Capital, we need to cut our losses and scrap the thing already.

      looks like someone did just that.

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    2. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by afidel · · Score: 1

      The 3 year tech demonstration was supposed to aid in the control of the airspace around DC as reported by the Washington Post, it's supposed capabilities include detecting small radar cross section craft like cruise missiles and also manned and unmanned craft (ie large drones) so if they didn't identify something several times the size of a cruise missile in the DC airspace I'd call that a fail.

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    3. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by pdhenry · · Score: 1

      It wasn't operating that day.

    4. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Systems are built to the requirements specified by the government. It's extremely doubtful that they were looking to detect ultralights, which have a very significantly smaller radar signature, and payload than a cruise missile.

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    5. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by whodunit · · Score: 1

      "This billion dollar system couldn't detect a non-threat, we should get rid of it."

  13. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Black Sunday

  14. Exploding Helium! by KatchooNJ · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oy! Apparently MSNBC had commentary explaining that helium was explosive and dangerous. O_o

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    1. Re:Exploding Helium! by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      Oy! Apparently MSNBC had commentary explaining that helium was explosive and dangerous. O_o

      Specifically, chief Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski said helium was flammable. Not sure whether it was a brain fart or he's just clueless about the chemistry.

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    2. Re:Exploding Helium! by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      chief Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski said helium was flammable.

      I believe proper term is inflammable like when they wrote on gasoline tanker trucks but used "flammable." Otherwise some may interpret it as unflammable. Of course these days they simply put "1203" on their code sign. I think if they blimp had "1046" code sign then everything will be ok.

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    3. Re:Exploding Helium! by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Sun does not fuse helium. It fuses 4 hydrogen atoms into helium. When the Sun starts to fuse helium in the distant future, we are toast.

    4. Re:Exploding Helium! by tsotha · · Score: 1

      Literally.

    5. Re:Exploding Helium! by NVW55V · · Score: 2

      Good. I love toast. Now let's talk about butter, and jelly.

    6. Re:Exploding Helium! by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I'm reminded of the sticker on a box I bought on EBay, "If you find this box, don't touch it. Do not leave the area. Help is on the way. The Umbrella Corporation"

    7. Re:Exploding Helium! by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      The Sun does not fuse helium. It fuses 4 hydrogen atoms into helium.

      4 hydrogen atoms? Hydrogen has a single proton, helium has two. Where do the other 2 protons go?

      Or does the process require 4 hydrogen atoms to make 2 helium atoms, because 2 hydrogen atoms do not have enough FOOBAR by themselves to fuse? What might the FOOBAR be? Energy? Mass?

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    8. Re:Exploding Helium! by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Helium also has two neutrons, while hydrogen has none, so you do need four particles - two protons that stay protons, and two that become neutrons by absorbing an electron - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... .

      Thank you!

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    9. Re:Exploding Helium! by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      A neutron can be created this way, but in stellar fusion two protons fuse to become Helium-2. It then undergoes beta decay to become a deuterium atom, releasing a positron and neutrino.

  15. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by bobbied · · Score: 1

    Actually, If you think about how you might track a cruse missile using Radar, especially one that is designed to follow the terrain at low levels, having a radar system which is up high and stationary makes sense. You'd also be able to track ballistic munitions tracks like mortars and smaller missiles from this vantage point.

    Of course, it does afford you the perfect vantage point to track pretty much all moment on the ground, which is something the military needs to be very careful about doing for constitutional reasons.

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  16. How could they not know exactly where it is? by hawguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How could they lose it? Surely after $2.5B spent on the program, they had enough money to slap a GPS tracker on it.

    1. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Oh, I'm sure they knew where it was the whole time. The question becomes what the fuck you do about it.

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    2. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

      Pennsylvania is being hit by a massive storm right now. The blimp is being blown over the mountains, and anyone chasing it has to go around.

    3. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 2

      They know where it is. There are two F-16 fighter jets tailing it. There are better articles online than the one linked in TFS.

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    4. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      tail, v., to follow and observe closely.

      By approaching and circling the aerostat, the F-16 fighter jets are tailing it.

      Only on slashdot would someone turn this into a physics problem.

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    5. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by tomhath · · Score: 1

      GP thought the jets were trying to mate with it.

    6. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      a receiver is not a transmitter. but for the blimp to fill it's original duty it needed to have transmitters.

      they probably knew where it was all the time anyways, just didn't want to bring it down.

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  17. Good question... by Zeorge · · Score: 1

    My guess is that it was for radar and other interrogative technologies and all communications was through the umbilical to the ground. However, it should have a GPS for timing and for positional accuracy in relation to the radar and what the radar sees when and where.

  18. I'm worried about two things: entanglement and ESD by Zeorge · · Score: 1

    It already happened with entanglement where the tether took down some power lines. I could see it damaging houses and other tall structures like a water tower if it encounters is.

    ESD: I know aircraft build up static charge while flying so that worries me. If someone or something conductive were to touch the tether it could discharge and really hurt/kill a person or damage property.

  19. Skytanic by SomewhatRandom · · Score: 1

    It's a rigid air ship.

    All aboard for safety and adventure on the rigid airship Excelsior, where the pampered luxury of a cruise ship meets the smoothness of modern air travel.

  20. Re:Jets scrambled... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nah, they're going to escort it to Massachusetts where the Patriots experts in deflation will careful deflate it for them.

  21. easy for you to say by dlt074 · · Score: 1

    i take it you've never lived under the protection of one in a combat zone. not to mention, they become the main target of the locals. better it then I.

    1. Re:easy for you to say by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      i take it you've never lived under the protection of one in a combat zone.

      Is that because JLENS has never been deployed to a combat zone (mostly because it was designed to operate in friendly territory)?

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  22. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Very observant. The remnant crossed Texas, along the gulf coast, and now up the East coast.

  23. Unmanned? by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

    "Oh the, um, Inhumanity!" Hey, if it gets to international waters, can just anybody grab it?

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    1. Re:Unmanned? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      All you have to do is fight your way through a pair of F18's and bog know what else is chasing it. I don't think anybody is going to claim salvage rights on this puppy.

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    2. Re:Unmanned? by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 1

      I was wondering about this. If it was a drifting, unmanned ship at sea it would become the property of anyone boarding it. I would imagine a drifting, unmanned ship above the sea would be subject to the same laws. So, we need another airship to chase it, and board it.

      This could all turn delightfully Girl Genius...

  24. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

    And they would never be testing things at a place called the "Aberdeen Proving Ground"

    Your tinfoil hat slipped a bit - better get it centered again.

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  25. Re:Pennsylvania is in the mid-Atlantic by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Yes, APG is north of Baltimore, and south of the Maxon-Dixon Line. Drift a little north and you are in Pennsylvania.

  26. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

    Anyone with a submarine?

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  27. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

    And hurricanes coming out of the Pacific, absolutely do not cross the entire continent dropping inches of rain on everything in their path.

    Is this article a magnet for stupid or something?

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  28. Duck Tape is a registered trademark by swschrad · · Score: 1

    used by Henckel for a duct tape product. which is actually no good for ducting, because it dries out and comes apart. metallic aluminum tape with a different glue is what is professionally used for air ducting.

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  29. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    And Russian or Chinese submarines.

  30. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    It is not the same low, but it is the moisture associated with the hurricane. The hurricane broke up over Texas, but formed a low in the gulf of Mexico which travelled along the coast, dumping rain across the south. The moisture was pulled up the east coast by a low that developed over the Midwest.

  31. Now on the ground by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 1

    Blimp/Balloon is now on the ground in Montour County, PA and being secured.

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  32. Re:98 more to go. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    The military should be careful with those things. Some people might think that a military surveillance drone "randomly" getting too close is an act of war.

    As opposed to having a cable dragging on the ground, destroying everything in it's path?

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  33. Sideshow Bob by waynemcdougall · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know the current whereabouts of Sideshow Bob?

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  34. Military Blimp by tekrat · · Score: 1

    Since it's Military... It's gotta be a cheap Blimp, maybe only a few dozen Million dollars. Cheap compared to that new Bomber, which is coming out to $2Billion per plane, at least.

    The Pentagon's budget is unlimited, says the GOP, but we can't afford healthcare or social security, or even have a post office.

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    1. Re:Military Blimp by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Some of the early funding for the blimp like systems going back in 'public' since 1981.
      Tethered Aerostat Radar System
      http://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/...
      The real win is the the upkeep, upgrading and new support via different departments, mil or federal gov that just keep the cash flowing over generations of platforms.
      The next upgrade for new systems will be long term surveillance above any US city that needs that kind of 24/7 surveillance with a wide selection of civilian/embassy data and optical all weather collection options..
      What once looked out over other nations will now always be looking in.

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    2. Re:Military Blimp by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Are you arguing that we shouldn't pay for the military to detect cruise missiles, or just ranting against the military and GOP?

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  35. Neat thing about tether cables... by sbaker · · Score: 1

    The neat thing about trailing a long tether is that it keeps the airship at a constant height above ground...if it were to drift higher, it would lift more tether off the ground, which would make it heavier - and thus descent. If it drifts lower, more tether rests on the ground, which lightens the airship and allow it to go up again. Net result is an elegant feedback control system that keeps the airship at constant height.

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    1. Re:Neat thing about tether cables... by belthize · · Score: 1

      The problem in this particular isn't so much constant height as it is constant latitude and longitude.

  36. The remote deflation device failed. by mmell · · Score: 1

    Which (in my mind) means chamber another round and keep firing. Don't worry - it'll deflate!

  37. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by Ken+D · · Score: 1
  38. Leaf peeping by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    It just wanted to go on a leaf peeping tour.

  39. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    How do they work when there are no mountains anywhere nearby?

  40. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by MobSwatter · · Score: 1

    Uncle Sam in E.R. from an apparent gunshot wound to the foot and powder burns on right hand... again...

  41. Coincidence? I think not! by Grumpinuts · · Score: 1

    Pink Floyd must be reforming...

  42. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    As I sit here within 5 miles of the east coast, I look up out of my living room window, and see....the remnants of Hurricane Patricia.

  43. Re:98 more to go. by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

    [The blimp] was last seen drifting at 16,000 ft over Pennsylvania. [...] It was trailing approximately 6,700 feet of cable.

    So, no, it's not hitting the ground.

  44. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

    Foreign government attack on power infrastructure?

    Nahh, just government contractor cost-cutting. I mean, they abbreviated "Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System" as "JLENS" to save ink, who knows what other corners they cut. The tether was probably recycled baling twine.

  45. Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System is not JLENS, it's JLACMDENSS.

  46. Not a Blimp nor Aerostat by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    As clearly, it was not powered nor tethered....

    I think should call it an "blump"

    1. Re:Not a Blimp nor Aerostat by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      As clearly, it was not powered nor tethered....

      I think should call it an "blump"

      And anything else in that family would be "blumpkin"?

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  47. I never thought I'd live to see this day... by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    But I can now say, I was there in Baltimore "when the balloon went up”...

    Gee and I thought only WWII survivors could ever quote that.

  48. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Forever+Wondering · · Score: 1

    Per CNN, the blimp _is_ down. The military did something to force it down [*]

    [*] Maybe they told that guy with the shotgun that it was a drone ...

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  49. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by wbr1 · · Score: 1
    Most dishes do point to a geo-synchronous satellite.
    However in the 90s there was a thing called Wirelss Cable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    I worked for a provider. They could get a smallish set (15-20) channels out to places where the cable company would nto run cable, much cheaper than satellite at the time. It was quickly overtaken by true satellite and expanding cable networks with larger and increasingly digital offerings.

    Interestingly we were the first high-speed internet provider in our area. It was one way cable Internet. 1 QAM Docsis 1.1 channel broadcast wirelessly downstream. Upstream was provided by a dial up modem, and some funky split routing.
    The company I worked for was also an ISP and regional telco/mobile provider. I did cable modem installs and maintained the headend equipment, then promoted on to their NOC. Soon ater I went to the NOC, thet started launching DSL and the wierd split cable internet went away. That same POTS upsream was also often used in regular cable plants until the local provider switched their amplifiers to pass upstream traffic.

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  50. Twitter feed ... by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

    I prefer the other twitter feed for the blimp ... er... aerostat:

    https://twitter.com/AberdeenBl...

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  51. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by tsotha · · Score: 1

    That's true, in the same way Pearl Harbor didn't need to be defended because the only people with bombs in that area were the US Army and Navy.

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  53. Re:Pennsylvania is in the mid-Atlantic by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    and Iceland

  54. Top Ten List? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    Maybe, "top ten military excuses for the blimp breaking free"

    10. Blimp? What Blimp?
      9. Forgot to use The Club
      8. If you love something, set it free

    That's all I could think of.

  55. Good.... by DewDude · · Score: 1

    maybe it'll stop fucking with the 2m amateur band.

  56. Panic over, it's down and on the ground... by advocate_one · · Score: 1

    the news article linked to has had it's content updated...

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  57. Cable cutting, speak of the devil and he doth appe by Max_W · · Score: 1

    The ultimate ... hack on the United States could involve severing the ... cables:
    tech.slashdot.org/story/15/10/26/0114256/russian-presence-near-undersea-cables-concerns-us

  58. Is there a chance the tether could bend? by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    "Not on your life, my Hindu friend!"

    Monocable!!

  59. Laugh by koan · · Score: 1

    The death knell of blimp based spying.

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  60. 16,000ft and 6700ft of tether.. by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    I think I see the problem here.

    How done one "grab" a tether where the free end is 10,000 ft in the air? An interesting problem.

    That is up at the upper range to which a helicopter can actually hover... Even if it could, the rotors would be in the way, and you would have to somehow grab it horizontally. A plane of course can't stop, and would need some sort of grappling device, if one exists... On top of that, I don't know what "Vectran" is, but presumably it is an ultra strong 6700ft cable, which is likely as much to slice through a plane and whatever is trying to grab it than not...

  61. Mid-Atlantic? by quenda · · Score: 1

    How did a blimp get from the middle of the ocean, against prevailing winds, to Pennsylvania? Is this another example of the Americans' legendary prowess in geography?

  62. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

    I don't know. There have been a lot of GPS failures, and the "satellite phones" that are supposed to have coverage everywhere there's open sky, often don't.

    GPS doesn't function in the southern "hemisphere" except near land, which tells me it's land-based, not satellite-based.

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  63. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

    Interesting, the Wireless Cable! Are there still installations? Perhaps that was what the people on the radio show had found and were discussing as if it was supposed to be pointing at a satellite?

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