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ISIS Makes Direct Threats Against Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey (cnet.com)

wjcofkc writes: A group of ISIS supporters have threatened to take down Facebook and Twitter, as well as their leaders. In a 25-minute propaganda video released by a group calling itself "the sons of the Caliphate army," photographs of both technology leaders are riddled with bullets. The video was first spotted by Vocativ. The threats are being made over the two companies' efforts to seek out and remove terrorist-related content on their respective platforms. The group is quoted as saying, "If you close one account, we will take 10 in return and soon your names will be erased after we delete your sites, Allah willing, and will know that we say is true."

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  1. Shouldn't ISIS be more worried about Tim Cook? by rsborg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh, I got my terrorist organizations mixed up. My bad #notFBI

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    1. Re:Shouldn't ISIS be more worried about Tim Cook? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      So, it is terrorism now to follow the constitution, get a warrant for an investigation, and request assistance from a technology company in an investigation?

      You have a strange definition of terrorism.

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    2. Re: Shouldn't ISIS be more worried about Tim Cook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Terrorism is doing anything against the established interests of the moneyed elite and their government puppets.

    3. Re:Shouldn't ISIS be more worried about Tim Cook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say that like it's the only thing the FBI has done. What a naive little child you are.

    4. Re:Shouldn't ISIS be more worried about Tim Cook? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/i...
      or, if you prefer a different source
      http://dictionary.reference.co...

      terrorism
      [ter-uh-riz-uh m]
      noun
      1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
      2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
      3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

      So, what terrorism has the FBI engaged in, please cite sources. Since I am such a naive little child, you should be able to find many cases of the FBI engaging in terrorism.

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  2. They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A world without Facebook? Whatever would we do?

    1. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by MightyMartian · · Score: 0

      Praise Allah, or else, I guess.

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    2. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Noah+Haders · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it's like, "if you dare to interfere with our propaganda, we'll retaliate by shutting down the service on which we distribute our propaganda!" Seems poorly thought out.

    3. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by wjcofkc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know that was tongue in cheek, but still:

      Thought independent outside of obsessing over "likes" and "friends".

      No more walking off cliffs because your posting to Facebook. (this of course excludes general texting)

      Living socially normal lives.

      No more armies of people baffled that I among others are not on Facebook.

      A vast reduction in narcissistic selfies.

      (maybe) an increase in general civility as people would be forced to have face-to-face conversations within close physical proximity.

      A steady increase in gray matter across a few billion people.

      The avoidance of entire generations of kids that are socially inept and who knows what else developmental oddities because, well, facebook.

      I could go on but that's a lot of typing. Maybe someone else take over?

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    4. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes and no, actually. The Caliphate's stance is that Muslims should be held to the strictest letter of the law, punishable by death. Non-believers who agree to be subservient and pay a tax are generally left alone.

    5. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      In regards to the post I responded to being at a -1, apparent there are some folks here who do not understand the concept of being facetious. Kinda of surprised that got down modded almost all the way to /dev/null. Also confident that this story is young enough that people who know better will come along and mod it up.

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    6. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering that they believe in a magical sky fairy and that their actions are destined to bring about an apocalypse, I don't think critical reasoning is one of their strong suits.

    7. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, not quite. You can see that with the Yazidis, where in captured towns, the men face genocide and the women sexual slavery.

      They also separate out different kinds of non-believers. "People of the Book" can pay the tax and be subservient -- Jews, Christians, and depending on who you ask, possibly Sikhs, Zorastrians, Mandeans, Hindus, and Buddhists. Yazidis are not people of the book, so they are are officially and explicitly in the "convert or die" camp -- Bahai, and atheists would also not be.

    8. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say that as if it were somehow acceptable. It isn't.

    9. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      That sounds like a fun life.

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    10. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by gringer · · Score: 2

      Considering that you refer to their God as a "magical sky fairy"

      Their Allah

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    11. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Daesh vs. Facebook.

      Whoever loses
      We win

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    12. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What would you call it?

      Personally, I think people beyond the age of 8 that have an imaginary friend are kinda weird, to say the least.

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    13. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this just goes to show that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    14. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They would indeed be doing the world a favor, but also cutting off their own nose to spite their face! I mean really? Kill the sites that they use to spread their fake religious hatred?

      There is no doubt that the founders of facebook and twitter have great damage to the world, but I would rather see them imprisoned for their crimes against humanity than killed.

    15. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by ericloewe · · Score: 2

      Let's go through it...

      Magical? Definitely a valid interpretation.

      Sky? Yup, checks out.

      Fairy? Well, it depends, but don't let pop culture depictions narrow your view of the many forms fairies take in various myths.

      So yeah, it's an accurate description.

    16. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not weird in America. I got over religion when I was 9 years old, because no one could provide any evidence of their god at all, and a lot of stuff this god is said to have done is unethical by my standards, but most of the people around me are still religious.

    17. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You know weird people.

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    18. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, not quite. You can see that with the Yazidis, where in captured towns, the men face genocide and the women sexual slavery.

      They also separate out different kinds of non-believers. "People of the Book" can pay the tax and be subservient -- Jews, Christians, and depending on who you ask, possibly Sikhs, Zorastrians, Mandeans, Hindus, and Buddhists. Yazidis are not people of the book, so they are are officially and explicitly in the "convert or die" camp -- Bahai, and atheists would also not be.

      So these people are like Nazis but really stupid, bordering on functionally retarded.. Let them make threats.. we are about to learn an important lesson here.

    19. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Phydeaux · · Score: 2

      Ah-ha! Thankfully Jack had enough foresight to start Twitter's Trust and Safety Council. They're just the SJWs to smooth over any potential insults or hurtful words and make any possible concessions needed to keep the ISIS threat quelled. While ISIS is demanding a rather large "safe space", westerners need to check their white, democratic privilege and let these folks self-segregate so as to avoid any "justicesplaining" we might want to inflict on their sensitive feelings and need to provide a welcoming and comfortable environment for the followers of Allah.

      Aloha Snackbar everyone!

    20. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    21. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not really. it's the same thing as, "if i can't have you, nobody will." not big hearted but not exactly irrational either.

    22. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by blurtsofakiddo · · Score: 1

      I could go on but that's a lot of typing. Maybe someone else take over?

      well there's still instagram for narcissistic selfies No more click bait articles about "OMG U WONT BELIEVE WAT HAPPENS when this happened!!!!!" Fewer false articles spreading (although whatsapp groups seem to have taken that load on)

    23. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are religious because they don't instantly pay a price for saying so... They most likely get rewarded from most I their other friends and parents.

      In contrast as to someone who says they believe Elvis is still alive .... They immediately pay a price usually in ill concealed laughter.

      The problem is they both have no evidence to support them but a treated extremely different. Until they both are treated the same many people will claim a belief in God or whatever because they get rewarded.( paraphrasing a Sam Harris debate)

    24. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Allah is pretty gay, isn't he?

      (NTTAWWT, apart from to his followers).

      Personally, I'm all for burying ISIS members ass-towards-mecca. doused in pig blood, and making it clear to all of them that that is the fate that awaits them. IN their pin-heads, that would permanently bar them from their fairy-tale paradise.

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    25. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by MobSwatter · · Score: 1

      Lovely, perhaps they might have some sort of packet based 'IED'...? Facebook? Loss? How? ISIS has hacking abilities? Would this not get them FB unfriended by Obama?

    26. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ..possibly Sikhs, Zorastrians, Mandeans, Hindus, and Buddhists.

      This is from personal experiences, working in a British University for over 10 years, 60-80% foreign students, so make of it what you will. Bear in mind, I had to be aware of any undercurrents going on as the last thing I needed was to deal with an outbreak of violence in the Labs, unfortunately, these happened. And, bear in mind, I was dealing with Engineering/Computing/Science students here.

      Regarding Muslims and their attitudes to 'The People of the Book(the extended edition)'

      Sikhs: nope..friction between Sikhism and Islam has rumbled along merrily for centuries (one Muslim student described Sikhism to me as a 'piss take of Islam', general consensus of the Sikhs I knew was 'the only good Muslim was a dead one'..)

      Hindus: not.a.bloody.chance. There was a general disdain of Hindu students by the Muslim students, this became outright open hostility towards Hindus on occasion by Pakistani and Central-North African Muslims (I had to break up fights).

      Zorastrians: Tricky one this, I knew several Zorastrians, but they kept themselves to themselves, so cannot comment on their interactions with the Muslim students (other than to point out again that they made themselves inconspicuous)

      Buddhists: See, the funny thing about not believing in any God as far as Islam is concerned is...The Muslim attitude I experienced ranged from total indifference from the liberals through to they're Kafir, kill with fire from the usual nutters.

      Mandeans: never met any, that I know of (see remark above regarding Zorastrians and being inconspicuous)

      I know there's some stuff out there about 'People of the Book' covering the above groups, but talking to Muslims over the years, even ones who could be described as liberal (e.g. taking Khayyam at his word when he said '..It is better to flourish in the street of the tavern than to wither in the mosque.'), they say it only covers Christians and Jews (the more militant ones would drop the Jews from the list if they dared..but that would eventually open up a large can of worms regarding the origins of Islam, so best left alone..at present).

      Disclaimer: Atheist, but maintain a passing interest (in the spirit of know thy enemy) in religions and their funny ways..

    27. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they would get punished for saying they are religious CHRISTIANS if they were living in Muslim controlled areas. That's why number of non-Muslim people in those areas has dwindles significantly over the last few decades.

      Completely agree about the social reward here... let's get religious, everyone is doing it, Jesus died so you can do it, and it you don't then you're going to hell... there's some loss language there that should be interesting to psychologists.

    28. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree what alvinrod says: Considering that they believe in a magical sky fairy and that their actions are destined to bring about an apocalypse, I don't think critical reasoning is one of their strong suits. I heard about a similar situaties on likes kopen and people still this this is weird. When you living a normal social live this won't happen.

    29. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Not a 24-hour clock.

    30. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Religious nutjobs trying to censor the truth again.

    31. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by gsslay · · Score: 1

      No more walking off cliffs because you're posting to Facebook. (this of course excludes general texting)

      FTFY. But it seems that it's already too late for you.

    32. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by stealth_finger · · Score: 1, Troll

      ..possibly Sikhs, Zorastrians, Mandeans, Hindus, and Buddhists.

      Sikhs: nope..friction between Sikhism and Islam has rumbled along merrily for centuries (one Muslim student described Sikhism to me as a 'piss take of Islam', general consensus of the Sikhs I knew was 'the only good Muslim was a dead one'..)

      Hindus: not.a.bloody.chance. There was a general disdain of Hindu students by the Muslim students, this became outright open hostility towards Hindus on occasion by Pakistani and Central-North African Muslims (I had to break up fights).

      Zorastrians: Tricky one this, I knew several Zorastrians, but they kept themselves to themselves, so cannot comment on their interactions with the Muslim students (other than to point out again that they made themselves inconspicuous)

      Buddhists: See, the funny thing about not believing in any God as far as Islam is concerned is...The Muslim attitude I experienced ranged from total indifference from the liberals through to they're Kafir, kill with fire from the usual nutters.

      All the while claiming to be the religion of "peace".

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    33. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Alumoi · · Score: 1

      Religious nutjobs trying to censor the truth again.

      Censor the truth? I've seen more lies on failbook and twatter than in all political speeches form the last 50 years.

    34. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Alumoi · · Score: 2

      All the while claiming to be the religion of "peace".

      Oh, please, do fuck off. Remember the Inquisition? Burning at stake? Killing of the unbelivers?
      It's standard practice for any religion: you're either with us or you're next on the list.

    35. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      All the while claiming to be the religion of "peace".

      Oh, please, do fuck off. Remember the Inquisition? Burning at stake? Killing of the unbelivers? It's standard practice for any religion: you're either with us or you're next on the list.

      Yeah, that's the joke.

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    36. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to experience the full wraith of the US military go ahead and take away facebook from Americans.

    37. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by sabbede · · Score: 4, Informative

      Which is just the Arabic word for the one God worshipped by all three Abrahamic religions. The two words are semantically equivalent, only the language is different. Yahweh = Adonai = Deus = Dio = God = Got = Allah = Concept.Demiurge

    38. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Megol · · Score: 1

      Allah = God in Arabic. Christian that speak Arabic call their God Allah as do believers of other religions that believe in a god and also happens to speak Arabic.
      The word was used before Islam was created BTW.

      Even that is over simplified as exemplified in Malaysia where the word come into general usage even though the native language isn't Arabic.

      In short: your correction isn't one.

    39. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Megol · · Score: 1

      No. They wouldn't want that done to them but it wouldn't hinder them to reach paradise according to their religion.

    40. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Megol · · Score: 1

      TL;DR Religious believers choose not to follow their claimed religion in order to fight.

      A shock that, really /s

    41. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Holi · · Score: 1

      Don't ever forget that you are the minority in that belief, and they are far more likely to own and be willing to use guns.

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    42. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by stdarg · · Score: 1

      What you have to remember is that since God/Allah/etc don't actually physically exist, they aren't words for the same physical thing. "God" is a set of beliefs, so is "Allah", but they are different beliefs to different people. There isn't enough overlap to justify calling them the same, because there's no objective truth to fall back on, like a mountain that you can point to and say "See that's what I'm talking about!" and the other guy is like "Oh okay yeah that's what I'm talking about too, I guess it's just different words for the same thing."

      Or another example is Germany vs Deutschland vs Allemagne. You can talk to someone who doesn't know your name for Germany, and point to a map and say "That!" and then they will immediately know that you're talking about the same thing.

      Now if YOU personally think God and Allah overlap enough to call them the same, that's just YOU. To many people it's quite important that God had a son named Jesus who was actually God himself and came to Earth to die for our sins and was resurrected etc. To many other people it's quite important that Allah did NOT have a son named Jesus, that Allah could not possibly ever die for anything including our sins, therefore Allah could never be resurrected, etc.

      It's the basis of two different religions, so there are huge differences, otherwise they wouldn't be separate religions right?

      Now of course there are Arab Christians who use the word Allah to refer to the Christian god, and you're right for that, but not in general. It's all about context. That's why they're not semantically equivalent.

    43. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by stdarg · · Score: 1

      Oh, please, do fuck off. Remember the Inquisition? Burning at stake? Killing of the unbelivers?

      And what does that have to do with idiots today calling Islam the religion of peace?

      It's standard practice for any religion: you're either with us or you're next on the list.

      Well that's wrong. 0/2, keep swinging buddy.

    44. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Does anyone believe that Facebook would cease to exist without Mark Zuckerberg?

      Yes, the guy who raised his hand -- would you kindly to help transfer my millions of dollars?

    45. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Shane_Optima · · Score: 2

      Stop lying. It's not standard practice for Tibetan Buddhists, currently under brutal occupation by the Chinese. It's not standard practice for Jains, who advocate extreme nonviolence. It's not standard practice for the Amish, who rely on nonviolent shunning (and they also tend to do things like reaching out and comfort the non-Amish wife of a man who murdered a bunch of Amish schoolgirls.)

      There's always a kernel of unpredictable danger in any dogma that insists you believe the impossible, but it is just slander to insist that all religions are equally violent at all points in time. The danger from Christianity is far from over, but at this point in time any Christian equivalent of ISIS or Saudi Arabia would be pretty much unthinkable. If you looked hard enough, the worst you could come up with would probably be some isolated witch trial stuff in Africa, persecution of gays in Jamaica, or perhaps some of the war crimes committed in the Balkans 20 years ago. These are awful atrocities, but to equate them to the worst Islamic theocracies is ridiculous. You cannot find a true equivalence unless you build yourself a time machine.

      It's not irrational or bigoted to notice which ideology is the most dangerous at the moment. And it's certainly not bigoted or irrational to notice how obviously false and cynical the "religion of peace" meme is, especially when it is used to describe how it is commonly practiced in the world today. Islam means submission, which (as any martial arts enthusiast could tell you) is not a peaceful word. Jihad is not a peaceful word. Muhammad was not, on the whole, a particularly peaceful man.

      And it should be possible to talk about Islam in the world today without having lengthy disclaimers and digressions condemning either modern Christian politics or the Inquisition.

    46. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by StikyPad · · Score: 2

      ISIS is about as much of a threat to the world at large as a playground bully. It's a highly localized threat. Sure, on the way home from school, a few punches might get thrown, but it's hardly going to upset the world order. The reason governments care is because they don't want to deal with the refugees, not because ISIS is going to invade.

      Of course ISIS would *love* to destroy America (or Europe, or anyone, really), but intent and capability are two separate things. China has the capability to destroy us, but not the intent. ISIS has the intent, but not the capability. Don't get me wrong -- ISIS believes they have the capability, because they believe they have God on their side, but if we buy into that, who's the real fool?

      We should be paying about as much attention to ISIS in our national security policy as we do to Boko Haram, which is pretty much not at all. Oh no, someone shot his co-workers! That's what we call "Tuesday," in America. In the 80s, it was called "going postal," and it was so common they made a video game about it. Not that it's not incredible shitty for the people involved, but let's keep this in perspective. Our civilization was not shaken to its foundation because of a killing spree. It's a criminal matter, not one of national security, which is the security of our nation as a whole, not the guaranteed safety of every individual who happens to live here, as if such a thing were even possible.

      ISIS doesn't piss me off as much as the reactionary people who use the existence of anyone who doesn't like America to promote some overhaul of society in order to save the nation from a mosquito bite. Make a retaliatory strike if we need to, but full-out war, and all of the sacrifices and paranoid security measures that go along with it, are completely unnecessary. We voluntarily change our lives far more than any terrorist group ever could. But we never learn, it seems.

    47. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by onepoint · · Score: 2

      While I can understand why you think these people are not a threat to Europe and the USA... let's bring some knowledge into the game;

      China and Russian have tried and failed multiple times to cause the "dollar" to collapse http://www.usnews.com/news/art... is just one of the many examples

      9/11 was caused by a small group of people.

      The ability to create and hack electronic systems has never been easier, if you keep reading slashdot, you'll see that all infrastructures are weak, also, it seems that bio-hacking might be on the rise ( no validation on that aspect, just perspective )

      the sad fact is, if these guys were not on the radar as a threat, they have become now. if I ran facebook or twitter, I would exercise my ability to track and annonomously give information to those that show a missle firing down the pipe...

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    48. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      My autofellatio-fetish is none of your business.

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    49. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not where I live. Actually, a politician who even ponders thinking about mentioning something akin to resembling Creationism as a "valid theory" and something that should be taught in school would very certainly perform political suicide.

      We don't elect lunatics. At least not of the religious kind.

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    50. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To a reason-based Atheist, they ARE semantically equivalent.

      Posting anon because...well...a lot of people like their magic sky fairy.

    51. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't be possible that reading something that MILLIONS of people post to generates more dishonesty than a few hundred professional liars.

      You're stating the obvious.

    52. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, however it IS bigoted and irrational to blame the entire religion for the actions of some.

      After all, I'm sure the Christians in the US wouldn't like us to start treating them like Westboro Baptists.

    53. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Allah' is the arabic word for 'God'. It's the same word used by arabic Christians.
      (It's also the same deity. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all trace back to the same Abrahamic roots, and worship the same divine entity.)

    54. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Most of the economic damage from 9/11 was directly attributable to our reaction, not their action. People stopped flying, traveling, going to work, in some cases for days, in some cases for months. If we had reacted to China and Russia's efforts by panicking, they would have succeeded as well. Not to mention, ISIS hasn't achieved anything even close to an attack on that scale.

      ISIS has hacked exactly nothing, and even if they did, what, exactly, are they going to accomplish that nation-states and experienced hackers haven't? An isolated incident of economic harm? Hell, they haven't even threatened to hack Facebook, just assassinate the CEO, as if the continued existence of one is more than tangentially related to the other. And even the credibility of that threat is only slightly above laughable. I'd take it seriously enough if I were Zuckerberg, but I don't think our country is going to go into national mourning or anything if they somehow followed through on it.

      And electronic systems may be more vulnerable than physical targets, but it's a lot quicker and easier to rebuild a server and eliminate the vulnerabilities than doing the same thing with a building or a city. Moreover, taking out a power grid is hardly doomsday. If such an attack did occur, then it would certainly warrant a counterstrike (as I mentioned in my first post), but let's not put the cart before the horse.

    55. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      FYI, just for your edification, and hopefully to squash your misunderstanding.

      The Yazidis recently on a mountain being attacked by ISIS were Christians. They are people of the book, ISIS doesn't care though, they are out to kill anyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do, even Muslims who are more moderate are beheaded by ISIS.

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    56. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by miketheanimal · · Score: 1

      You are not American. Therefore you do not count.

    57. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      True, however it IS bigoted and irrational to blame the entire religion for the actions of some.

      After all, I'm sure the Christians in the US wouldn't like us to start treating them like Westboro Baptists.

      I think you have that backwards--it's only bigoted to blame and discriminate against individuals (not "the entire religion") based on their religious identity. Your second sentence about Westboro, if slightly rephrased, is an example of this.

      But it is entirely fair and rational to criticize "the entire religion"... not in the sense of criticizing every individual Christian or Muslim, but in the sense of criticizing the religion's canonical foundation and common beliefs. It is not at all bigoted to criticize the canon (Bible, Quran, Hadith) and the factual wrongness of and harmfulness of certain overarching principles, such as a belief in the afterlife. And it is also fair to criticize the religion as a whole as being a net evil in the world. I'm not necessarily saying that this is an easy argument to win, but having an opinion that a religion has had an overall negative affect does not make one a bigot any more than it would be bigoted to say that one is against the Republican party. This by definition would be a criticism of most Republicans, but that criticism is not indicative of bigotry as long as you make an effort to notice and respond to what an individual Republican says and does. "I dislike the Republican party because it is against gay marriage" is not a bigoted thing to say, even though some members of the Republican party are not against gay marriage.

    58. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by onepoint · · Score: 1

      While I don't know your experience. I do know a few about flight/fear/fight ... ( quickly to cover, Russia said no to crashing the US$, they did not want to risk it in 2009 ) ...
      fear/fight/flight ... 9/11 had them all, people jumped on to boats just to get away from NYC, people were afraid for a while, and we fought back.
      take away people's facebook, you'll have some panic until the system get's back up. if they can get into our infrastructure then https://www.youtube.com/watch?... might be the most likely outcome.

      and because the CEO has the money, and access to information, he's going to provide information to the right people to get the right problem solved.

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    59. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      Live in the real world.

    60. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because Failbook and Twatter are both filled with religious people. Religious people are known to be lunatics and liars.

    61. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Number of Muslims killed because of their beliefs vastly outnumber the number of Christians killed for theirs. Your narrative is old and false.

    62. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes and those things are in past. We're talking about the present. So you fuck off.

    63. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If the US keep wasting time, money and energy on harebrained ideas like Creationism and the sensibilities of some oversensitive feelgood activists, it's likely that the US won't count anymore in the long run.

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    64. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the "special snowflake" generation's fascination with facebook -- maybe we should just cut facebook and twitter service to ISIS nations. Might just foment an uprising!

    65. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by jcarr · · Score: 1

      Arming the women YPG fighters would be far more effective. Frankly, in my limited understanding of the region, the women YPG fighters are the only normal people in the whole region.

      http://www.independent.co.uk/n...

    66. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by sabbede · · Score: 1
      The reason Arab Christians use the word Allah is because the word refers to the same concept. A long, long time ago, a deity told a guy named Abram to leave home and start over in the wilderness. Abram became Abraham, the name of his God was intentionally forgotten and henceforth referred to by the acronym YHWH. After a few generations, his religion became Judaism. A few thousand years later, a split began over the relevance of a prophet from Nazareth who said "we've been doing it wrong", spawning Christianity. Seven hundred years after that, another prophet arose among the descendants of Abraham who said, "we've been doing it wrong", spawning Islam.

      All three worship the exact same deity. That disagreements have arisen between them over what exactly that deity wants/likes does not mean they worship different deities. Put another way, they're using different versions of the same protocol to communicate with one specific system resource, not communicating with different resources.

      Expanding on that metaphor, one could say that all three are using SOAP to access some resource, but with different TLS revisions.

  3. The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Those who think the Pen is mightier than the Sword are about to learn the unpoetic truth that a person with only a pen needs to have some really good friends with swords.

    1. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Desprez · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the point is that the person with the pen is able to garner more support from friends and allies, and thus more swords.

    2. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those who think the Pen is mightier than the Sword are about to learn the unpoetic truth that a person with only a pen needs to have some really good friends with swords.

      The phrase means that in the course of history that ideas are a more powerful force for change than weapons.

      Ghandi's "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." means the same thing.

      The person with a "pen" may die. But his ideas may ultimately change the world, despite the attempt by those with "swords" to prevent it.

    3. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      Plus those people who have the friends with the swords, can use those pens to write some pretty big checks to their friends.

    4. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by fnj · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Ghandi's "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

      Gandhi's struggle would have turned out very, very differently had he been dealing with Hitler or Stalin or Mao instead of the British Empire. His methods only work against an adversary who has at least SOME heart or nobility you can leverage and exploit.

    5. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by vux984 · · Score: 2

      Maybe. Had Ghandi simply been executed (ie martyred) that might have catalyzed change as well; although the transition would have been very, very, different.

    6. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The pen is mightier only when the pen writes orders directing a thousand swords.

    7. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I think the point is that the person with the pen is able to garner more support from friends and allies, and thus more swords.

      The sword must disable the pen to survive as the controlling force. This is why the pen is mightier.

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    8. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the point is that the person with the pen is able to garner more support from friends and allies, and thus more swords.

      The sword must disable the pen to survive as the controlling force. This is why the pen is mightier.

      You have only demonstrated that the pen can be an annoyance that generates a response. Like a fly buzzing near your dinner that generates a response.

    9. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Pen is mightier than the Sword"
      Nukes beat both by a very wide margin.

    10. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe. Had Ghandi simply been executed (ie martyred) that might have catalyzed change as well; although the transition would have been very, very, different.

      What? You think hundreds of people might have died in the transition to freedom and independence. That's terrible. I'm glad nothing like that happened in real life.

    11. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." - Mao Tse-tung

    12. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean when you include Hitler? He's the text book example that the pen is mightier than the sword. How do you think he got to control so many swords?

    13. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep your sword. Pens were used to come up with the plans for tanks and nuclear bombs.

    14. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it wouldn't, that's the whole point of nonviolence. The trick is getting enough people to cause interference nonviolently, and you shut down the entire nation.

    15. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gandhi's struggle would have turned out very, very differently had he been dealing with Hitler or Stalin or Mao instead of the British Empire. His methods only work against an adversary who has at least SOME heart or nobility you can leverage and exploit.

      I don't think you fully grasp the concept. ie Gandhi's philosphy is still be taught, supported, and followed. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao not so much. So yeah I think his pen still beats their swords.

    16. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by mjwx · · Score: 2

      Ghandi's "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

      Gandhi's struggle would have turned out very, very differently had he been dealing with Hitler or Stalin or Mao instead of the British Empire. His methods only work against an adversary who has at least SOME heart or nobility you can leverage and exploit.

      Not necessarily. Remember that India was pretty far from England, so the British empire had to spend huge amounts of funds to police India with British forces rather than local forces (which was the preferred method of the British Empire). China can only control Tibet because they're right next door, controlling Ghana would be a different kettle of fish due to the expense of keeping soldiers stationed overseas, not to mention serious morale problems.

      Violent resistance also doesn't guarantee results. The Irish had rebellions for hundreds of years before the British allowed them to vote out of the empire. A more brutal opponent who cares less about trade than control would just keep smacking them down (see: Russia and Georgia/Ossetia ).

      All rebellions, violent or otherwise work on the same principle. Make it too expensive for a foreign empire or despotic domestic power to stay. Non violent means are harder, but pay better dividends when they work (violent rebellions tend to be destructive and result in militaristic leaders taking power).

      It also helped that the British Empire was a parliamentary democracy and had been since the 1700's and that their overseas operations were essentially run as corporations.

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    17. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep your sword. Pens were used to come up with the plans for tanks and nuclear bombs.

      Absolutely keep the swords. Swords keep the workers from implementing those plans.

    18. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's an aphorism that's sometimes true, sometimes not.

      the world cannot possibly have the virtues that it does today without force of arms.

      both are weapons and it's hard to say that one is the greater weapon than the other.

    19. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by drnb · · Score: 2

      Gandhi's struggle would have turned out very, very differently had he been dealing with Hitler or Stalin or Mao instead of the British Empire. His methods only work against an adversary who has at least SOME heart or nobility you can leverage and exploit.

      I don't think you fully grasp the concept. ie Gandhi's philosphy is still be taught, supported, and followed. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao not so much. So yeah I think his pen still beats their swords.

      Gandhi's philosophy is being followed by who? Nuclear armed India, India who fights over Kashmir? Apparently not. The Tibetans being ethnically cleansed by China? Maybe them. The ethnically cleansed Christian communities of Iraq? Maybe them too.

      Hitler, Stalin -- Are you seriously saying their philosophies are not being followed? Both were role models to various strong-men dictators of recent times.

      Mao -- Tiananmen Square protests/massacre of 1989. Can the Pen in China even mention the actual events?

    20. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck going up against a tank with a sword.

    21. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Gandhi's philosophy is being followed by who?

      Seriously?

      Nuclear armed India, India who fights over Kashmir? Apparently not.

      You know that 'India' is not a person right? And the entire Indian race don't all share the exact same philosophical views yeah? Or are you really that ignorant?

      Hitler, Stalin -- Are you seriously saying their philosophies are not being followed? Both were role models to various strong-men dictators of recent times.

      Yes because their "philosophies" is their pen. Their tanks and bombs were their swords (see how it works now?)

      Mao -- Tiananmen Square protests/massacre of 1989. Can the Pen in China even mention the actual events?

      If you've ever been to China you would see that since the 80's China's rule has become more benign. This didn't happen with guns or swords.

    22. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep your sword. Pens were used to come up with the plans for tanks and nuclear bombs.

      Absolutely keep the swords. Swords keep the workers from implementing those plans.

      Good luck going up against a tank with a sword.

      What tank? All the pen yielded was a plan for a tank.

    23. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by drnb · · Score: 2

      Gandhi's philosophy is being followed by who?

      Seriously?

      Nuclear armed India, India who fights over Kashmir? Apparently not.

      You know that 'India' is not a person right? And the entire Indian race don't all share the exact same philosophical views yeah? Or are you really that ignorant?

      Gandhi's creation, an independent India, abandoned his non-violent philosophy, immediately committed atrocities and ethnic cleansing upon itself, split into two countries, two countries that periodically war with each other. Seems a new sword triumphed as soon as the old sword, the British, left.

      Hitler, Stalin -- Are you seriously saying their philosophies are not being followed? Both were role models to various strong-men dictators of recent times.

      Yes because their "philosophies" is their pen. Their tanks and bombs were their swords (see how it works now?)

      Yes, sword wins. Hitler was only defeated by those who put away the pen and picked up swords.

      Mao -- Tiananmen Square protests/massacre of 1989. Can the Pen in China even mention the actual events?

      If you've ever been to China you would see that since the 80's China's rule has become more benign. This didn't happen with guns or swords.

      Nice dodge. More benign is an extremely relative thing, besides being a highly debatable claim. There is little room for criticism of the CCP today. And the question remains, how many Pens in China are telling the truth of Tiananmen. Swords rule in China.

      Over and over and over, the pen is secondary to the sword.

    24. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it wouldn't, that's the whole point of nonviolence. The trick is getting enough people to cause interference nonviolently, and you shut down the entire nation.

      Doesn't work when you start shooting people who interfere, even if its murder on a large scale. Only a small number of people will be willing to be martyrs. Most will get back to work. It only worked in India because the British were moral enough not to go down that path. When dealing with people as amoral as the Nazis they are able to get members of a targeted group to turn on one another to save themselves. When new prisoners arrived at a concentration camp that was a "work" camp rather than a "death" camp the Nazis had fellow prisoners beat them. To break their spirit, sow mistrust, and make them more compliant. It worked.

      Seriously, Ghandi's tactics only work against people that have a certain level of morality. It is *not* a universal strategy.

    25. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The tanks made from the plans. Again, good luck with that dinky little metal stick of yours.

    26. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean when you include Hitler? He's the text book example that the pen is mightier than the sword. How do you think he got to control so many swords?

      He had the advantage that his pen understood and admitted that it was secondary to the sword. Besides, his book sales were pumped up by guys with swords, the swords better see that you have your own copy of the book.

    27. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Gandhi's struggle would have turned out very, very differently had he been dealing with Hitler or Stalin or Mao instead of the British Empire. His methods only work against an adversary who has at least SOME heart or nobility you can leverage and exploit.

      On an interesting side-note: Gandhi did have some interaction with Hitler - apparently he wrote at least once to Hitler, starting "My dear friend ..." or something to that effect. I'm not implying that Gandhi was a fascist or would have condoned the Holocaust, though - in India, probably due to ignorance of European history, I think you can still find comic books that portray Hitler and the Nazis as great people. The Nazi tosh about 'Aryans' and 'lesser races' has some resonance with Indian culture; hence the caste system.

      As for speculation about what Stalin or Mao would have done - who knows? There is no doubt the they made some momentuously bad decisions in their time, but no real person is exclusively evil, whatever that word means. Stalin I know too little about, but if you study modern, Chinese history, I think you will find that one of the main reasons that Mao and the Communists won, and the Guomindang didn't, was that the Communists did "live off the land" the way Goumindang did: the Communists didn't simply take food and resources from the peasant, and they offered genuine help where they, eg. medical help. The reason it went so badly wrong after the revolution, in my view, has more to do with the fact that a gret revolutionary leader is rarely a great civil administrator. The ideal leader of a revolution is charismatic, has a simple purpose and is ruthless enough to carry out his plans, whereas civil adminstration is all about grey, pragmatic compromise, feeling your way along and making the best of things. It would probably have been better in many ways if he had left power of his own volition after the revolution, because he was in many ways an appalling leader in peacetime, but nobody can take away the fact that he was a amazingly good revolutionary leader.

      As for the British being so bloody noble - read about the Opium wars, and while you're at it, study the history of the British Empire and the industrial revolution, especially from the perspective of the poor. India won her independence for two reasons: a) Britain was weakened by ongoing events in Europe in throughout much of the earliy part of the 20th century (hint: WWI and WWII), and b) nobody can rule for very long over a people who constantly don't want you as a ruler. The constant disruptions of civil society will inevitably lead to substantial losses that drain the strength of the rulers until it falls apart. I suspect that Britain was more than happy to be rid of her colonies in the end.

    28. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gandhi first tried his methods in South Africa. He failed miserably. He said that his methods only work on those with a conscience. Gandhi had many "swords" acting in India when he was successful. It is more romantic to imagine Gandhi taming the world with his thoughts but the British had trained and armed many Indians. Those Indians no longer wished to serve Britain. Without that force Gandhi would likely have failed.

    29. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Swords rule in China.

      Yet they stole your entire manufacturing industry without a single shot being fired...

      Over and over and over, the pen is secondary to the sword.

      Only if you are incapable of understanding the concept.

    30. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Alumoi · · Score: 1

      The person with a "pen" may die. But his ideas may ultimately change the world, despite the attempt by those with "swords" to prevent it.

      Only if the victor is dumb enough not to erase those ideas from the history.

    31. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you fully grasp the concept. ie Gandhi's philosphy is still be taught, supported, and followed. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao not so much. So yeah I think his pen still beats their swords.

      Yeah, right. Guantanamo Bay, being detained for your own protection, let's build homes for the less fortunates and move them all (that's how ghettos started) and so on.
      No sir, no Hitler, Stalin or Mao ideas at all.

    32. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by deadweight · · Score: 0

      The 18th or 19th century version of the UK would have killed Ghandi and any number of his followers without a second thought. See "Sepoy Rebellion". They knew how to take care of business back then. The UK Ghandi was dealing with was a spent force,. They had no more balls to do anything and he knew it.

    33. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I had to choose I think I'd pick the Gun personally.

    34. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by colinwb · · Score: 1

      " The Irish had rebellions for hundreds of years before the British allowed them to vote out of the empire."

      I am British: this article on the Irish War of Independence seems a fair assessment, and this on Michael Collins is also useful. They both expand on what I already knew, which is that you could say that the British "allowed" the Irish to have independence (excepting Northern Ireland), but only because many Irish fought for independence and both sides, for possibly different reasons, eventually concluded that peace was better than war. (A small correction: technically the Irish Free State was a "Dominion" in the British Empire (a similar status to, for example, that of Canada, Australia and New Zealand), then from 1937 became detatched and in 1949 left what was then the "Commonwealth".)

    35. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Pumpkin+Tuna · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure Gandhi realized that.

    36. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by wwalker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Heart of mobility my ass. Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: âoeI hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits."
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    37. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by drnb · · Score: 1

      Over and over and over, the pen is secondary to the sword.

      Only if you are incapable of understanding the concept.

      Actually all it takes is seeing reality rather than poetry. The pen can only express power when protected by friendly swords, or tolerated by somewhat morale swords. In either case the swords remain primary, the pen secondary.

    38. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean when you include Hitler? He's the text book example that the pen is mightier than the sword. How do you think he got to control so many swords?

      Through force and fear. Not by people reading his book. His book was a prop, its possession a required demonstration of loyalty.

  4. New Facebook emojis by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just in time for the Zuck to respond with *angry face*.

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    1. Re:New Facebook emojis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *angry face of Mohammed*

    2. Re:New Facebook emojis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would pay a LOT of money to see an *Angry Mohammed* emoji on facebook

      They should totally do that, add a set of religious emoji's, including an angry jesus, angry mohammed, angry god etc

    3. Re:New Facebook emojis by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 2

      I've found the infidel!

      How dare you depict the Prophet's angry face!

    4. Re:New Facebook emojis by Bodhammer · · Score: 1

      X-(

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    5. Re:New Facebook emojis by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      (((:~{(>

      Asked and delivered.

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    6. Re:New Facebook emojis by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Where is the goatse-guy when you need him?

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    7. Re:New Facebook emojis by antdude · · Score: 1

      Angry Birds, Angry Ants, etc. :P

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    8. Re:New Facebook emojis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, no, angry jesus would not do, it's blasphemy!

  5. Good luck, ISIS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All those Asian and Jewish women who work for Facebook will kick you sorry asses back to the stone ages.

  6. Ob Kum Ba Ya by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Informative

    So the lesson is that even a sadistic bunch of mediaevalist nutbag bandits aren't entirely bad...

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    1. Re:Ob Kum Ba Ya by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      Why don't they make their own (anti) social network: MedievalBook or something? They can share decap pics among friends and fam.

    2. Re:Ob Kum Ba Ya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since such content won't have heads, it should be NeckBook instead of FaceBook.

    3. Re:Ob Kum Ba Ya by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      BurkaBook?

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    4. Re:Ob Kum Ba Ya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't they make their own (anti) social network:

      They should take over this one:
      http://www.friendface.co.uk/

  7. 25-minute propaganda video by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Funny

    >> 25-minute propaganda video

    Anyone seen SlashDot's video editor lately? A 25-minute rambling screed sounds like the kind of thing that's typically posted here.

    1. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Except that this video is actually getting some attention here.

    2. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They discontinued Slashdot video after a poll that showed that the vast majority of users would rather not watch them.

    3. Re:25-minute propaganda video by whipslash · · Score: 5, Informative

      We discontinued videos due to popular demand

    4. Re:25-minute propaganda video by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> We discontinued videos

      Exactly. :)

    5. Re:25-minute propaganda video by dysmal · · Score: 1

      What, is this some kind of democracy or something? Y'all really need to go back to dictatorship school...

    6. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait . . . Slashdot stopped doing something because the users didn't like it?

      Am I in an alternate universe? Does Spock have a beard?

    7. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why would you do that? If Facebook or Twitter or even Microsoft these days have taught me anything, it's that if users don't like a feature, you DOUBLE THE FUCK DOWN ON IT! Make it impossible to ignore! Make it pop up how great it is every single time a user logs in! "Accidentally" reset the user defaults back to reenable it!

      What's this "listening to users" thing? That's, like, web 1.0 thinking.

    8. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be advised, the AC is being heavily sarcastic. Pretty sure that was the clear intention, but the Internet makes it hard sometimes to see it. :)

    9. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was that supposed to be sarcastic?

    10. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No shit, sherlock?

    11. Re:25-minute propaganda video by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      Out of curiosity, if you're willing to divulge, was there a decent cost savings in ditching the video production? I never watched any of them, not really my taste, seems like they were generally disliked but I wonder whether they were an albatross or just unpopular. I do hope Rob is still in the fabric of the site somewhere. Thanks for your participation and responsiveness here!

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    12. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We discontinued APK due to popular demand too!

    13. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, stop messing with the order of things. Our job is to complain about stuff and your job is to ignore it. Now you come in and give us what we want.

      Care to tell us what we should complain about now? YOU TOOK UUUR JUUUUB!

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    14. Re:25-minute propaganda video by whipslash · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They weren't free so there is cost savings. We just didn't think any ad revenue gained by them was worth hurting the /. user experience. We removed the Jobs section too that DICE had created.

    15. Re:25-minute propaganda video by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      We discontinued Timothy due to popular demand!

    16. Re:25-minute propaganda video by whipslash · · Score: 5, Funny

      Haha well I guess you could complain about lack of https and unicode support for at least another week or three

    17. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Yeah, that gives ... wait. What do you mean by "another week or three"? You can't take that from us! That's the staple of /. ranting since the inception of this page, this goes back way longer than some of the contemporary users are alive!

      You see, any time we complained and ranted about something on /., and it was suddenly gone and there wasn't anything wrong anymore, we could always rely on being able to say "but there is still no Unicode support!" It has always been a reliable checkmate move.

      *sniff* I can't help it, it's like watching an old, reliable friend die.

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    18. Re:25-minute propaganda video by whipslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I meant was https will be first, then unicode support

    19. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thank you lord

    20. Re:25-minute propaganda video by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      When, I've got a list of user names to grab...

      This is going to be fun. For some of us.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    21. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...that the vast majority of users would rather not watch them.
      ----
      No. ...that the vast majority of users would rather not care.

    22. Re:25-minute propaganda video by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Seriously, do you remember what happened the last time /. supported unicode?

      Unending trolling and counter-trolling, using burner accounts that look just like existing posters accounts, but using all sorts of foreign characters.

      DO NOT SUPPORT UNICODE in usernames, for S/N ratio. The umlaut people need to suck it.

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    23. Re:25-minute propaganda video by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      Cool, thanks.

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    24. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shame You can't remove the Jobs cultists that Apple had created.

    25. Re:25-minute propaganda video by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they will filter, only allowing characters that enhance communication regarding human languages. I expect that there should be certain ascii ranges that will provide most of the flexibility.

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    26. Re:25-minute propaganda video by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      EBCDIC. I'm still waiting for EBCDIC.

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    27. Re:25-minute propaganda video by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      thank you lord

      I, for one, welcome our new Unicode overlords.

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      I'll show myself out.

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    28. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anonymous Coward here.

      I've been reading your comments Mr. Whiplash and the updates are sporadic based on replies you feel the need to inform users about - don't get me wrong - this is great.

      Is there a way that you could compile all of the changes you are advertising to bring back /. and post this as a news story so it is picked up by people who many not wade the comment waters so much?

      Thanks in advance,
      -AC

    29. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Megol · · Score: 2

      And for that I thank you!

    30. Re:25-minute propaganda video by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I could, but that would be redundant.

  8. What is their problem with Twitter? by CajunArson · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    From what I've seen, unless they are trying to make a peaceful presentation on a college campus that doesn't align 100% with whatever the SJW safe-spacers are agitated about this minute, they won't get banned.

    Refuse to call Trump a nazi though? Well in that case, Twitter will make sure you don't go around ruining the first amendment with speech or anything.

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    1. Re: What is their problem with Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More importantly, they have a protected status far beyond other minorities and women. SJWs, who now run Twitter's "trust and safety" committee, are well known for trying to cover up certain incidents caused by muslims. For example, the rape gangs on newyears eve in Germany supposedly never happened and were a right wing conspiracy. They've also, very ironically, victim shamed any woman who has come forward.

    2. Re:What is their problem with Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you want a safe space where you can be a dick and stay stupid things and have zero social consequence. How come the anti-SJWs are actually the biggest crying pussies in the world when they're own tactics are used against them?

    3. Re:What is their problem with Twitter? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Because the whole shit has somehow turned into some kind of substitute religion. It no longer has any connection whatsoever with reality, what matters is what they believe in and no amount of proof against it could make it waver. If anything, it makes you a heretic for bringing it up.

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    4. Re:What is their problem with Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was just waiting for some right wing idiot to bring in Twitter's non-existent attacks on right wingers. The idiot right has invented this completely ludicrous conspiracy that interprets every fucking bug Twitter has had forever as a new secret way to annoy the right.

      The only people being banned right now are terrorists and people who brazenly violate the ToS. That's it. If Twitter really was banning right wingers, there wouldn't be so many of them on Twitter. Because, you know, they'd be banned!

    5. Re: What is their problem with Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what happens when you homogenize a group of diverse individuals.

      What I'm unsure of is why Social Justice Warrior is a term of abuse. Only evil people are against Justice; Warriors, particularly just ones, are surely appealing to those who use such belligerent language against SJWs, which leaves Social as the objectionable word. Well the opposite of social is anti-social, which I guess makes sense.

    6. Re: What is their problem with Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what happens when you homogenize a group of diverse individuals.

      What I'm unsure of is why Social Justice Warrior is a term of abuse. Only evil people are against Justice; Warriors, particularly just ones, are surely appealing to those who use such belligerent language against SJWs, which leaves Social as the objectionable word. Well the opposite of social is anti-social, which I guess makes sense.

      I believe it's meant in a sort of sarcastic way, that they are warriors for social justice, because their name callers think the "SJW" are being disingenuous or phony(wanting not equality but revenge against whitey).

    7. Re:What is their problem with Twitter? by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      I was just waiting for some right wing idiot to bring in Twitter's non-existent attacks on right wingers.

      As was commented elsewhere, the guy's one of those f***wits that feels the neat to bleat about the First Amendement while showing that they don't even understand the most basic aspects of it, viz. it applies to the US government, not to private entities like Twitter.

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    8. Re:What is their problem with Twitter? by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Are we talking about ISIS or Trump supporters?

  9. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid people say lots of stupid things. Sure, they believe they can win. They also believe in a magic fairy who thinks it's evil for women to show their faces, but okay to force nine-year-old girls into marriage.

  10. Hahahaha..hahahahahahaha...hahaha.. wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're were being serious?....

    Hahahahahah...ahahahahah,ahahahahaha... right.

    1. Re:Hahahaha..hahahahahahaha...hahaha.. wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why is that funny? Do you think these people are particularly difficult to assassinate?

    2. Re:Hahahaha..hahahahahahaha...hahaha.. wait... by OhPlz · · Score: 1

      Yes, otherwise they would have just done so rather than threaten to do so.

    3. Re:Hahahaha..hahahahahahaha...hahaha.. wait... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think part of the reason why the threat is funny is because they are threatening to "delete" Facebook, like you can just click on it and press the Del key and, that's it, no more Facebook. It's also funny because you have some sort of international terrorist group threatening the founders of social networks because they keep getting kicked off. They don't sound so tough and scary when they're whining about getting kicked off Twitter.

      Anyway, it's funny in the same way that Donald Trump being the GOP nominee for president is funny. You don't expect them to have success so it's funny to see the bluster. And, if they actually did have success, then yes, the entire world would recoil in shock and horror, stock markets would collapse, there would be a general panic, laws would be passed that restrict our rights, and the US military would immediately spring into action and start attacking everything in sight.

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    4. Re:Hahahaha..hahahahahahaha...hahaha.. wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The not Funny thing is that there are enough people that will vote for Trump and he might win. The not so funny part - rest of candidates are worse.

    5. Re:Hahahaha..hahahahahahaha...hahaha.. wait... by Alumoi · · Score: 1

      Yes, otherwise they would have been assassinated long ago.

  11. Maxim 29. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    29. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less
    (The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries)

    1. Re:Maxim 29. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want sayings then:

      There is only gold and steel and the bodies of women

      (A Gorean warrior's saying)

    2. Re: Maxim 29. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What, no pies?

    3. Re:Maxim 29. by sexconker · · Score: 1

      If you want sayings, the only one worth being said is:

      What is best in life?
      To crush your, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

    4. Re:Maxim 29. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were funnier when you were doing the moo cow thing.

    5. Re:Maxim 29. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The first rule of the tautology club is the first rule of the tautology club.

  12. Let's hope so! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    A group of ISIS supporters have threatened to take down Facebook...

    Please!!!! Can I help???

    1. Re:Let's hope so! by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Why would you want those morons back out on the general net again?

      Taking down facebook would be the worst thing to happen to the net's signal to noise ratio sense the shutdown of AOL.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    2. Re:Let's hope so! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      True... true...

      In the end, Facebook keeps the sanity levels in the rest of the internet on a manageable level by soaking up the majority of crazies.

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  13. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the first time I've ever sided with ISIS.

    Go ISIS!!!

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the first time I've ever sided with ISIS.

      Go ISIS!!!

      Second time for me: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/...

    2. Re:Good by fnj · · Score: 1

      This is the first time I've ever sided with ISIS.

      This is the first time I've ever sided with Farcebook -- FTFY.

    3. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Second time for me: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/...

      How can you not like a plane nicknamed "Warthog"???

    4. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FTFY.

      No, you didn't "fix" it for me. That's your opinion, not mine.

    5. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes I wonder if the people who make those kind of replies even read the post fully beforehand, or if they just take a huge hit from a crack pipe.

    6. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FTFY.

      Yes, you did "fix" it for me. That's my opinion.

    7. Re:Good by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Do I have to take sides? Can't I hope for total MAD?

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  14. Oh Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way to blur the lines... huhum

  15. WHUT. by Deadboy77 · · Score: 1

    Nothing to do with this Rite? http://tech.slashdot.org/story...

  16. Threats against Z by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, Z can afford the best mercenaries, ninjas, and russian mobsters to step on them before they can assemble their arduino remote controllers....
    Hell, he could get an Amazon delivery to them of a barrel of monkeys to throw them off-guard.
    And pay a tattoo artist to deface them with hello kitty.

  17. Did they say which accounts? by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It would make sense if they were to kindly list the accounts they want to stay open. Otherwise how is Facebook supposed to know which is an Isis supporting page and which is a Ted Cruz supporting page.

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    1. Re:Did they say which accounts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would make sense if they were to kindly list the accounts they want to stay open. Otherwise how is Facebook supposed to know which is an Isis supporting page and which is a Ted Cruz supporting page.

      More importantly how would we know it is a page made by a decrepit out-of-touch socialist / communist who never had a real job until FORTY years of age (look it up), and fantasizes about gang raping women?

      Oh right, that page will have Bernie Sanders name at the top.

  18. Did FB change their layout again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, armed insurrection had to happen sooner or later.

  19. Oh yeah. I knew it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Marky is related with ISIS somehow. Drugs, prostitution, anything criminal. And this dude is doing something bad in Brazil to get some money with the olympic games. OMG it's going to be Munich all over again... (I hope not) Just confess dude, they can't get You because You have MONEY! Don't You think that FBI. CIA, NSA, WTEVR needs money, to clean the mess that You create selling drugs? That's right, that's my opinion about Facebook: My mother nevers was the same dude, she is addicted with medicine, she never baked a chocolate cake, it has never been the same because of Facebook, she almost divorced my father, and Markie wants that because he doesn't have a mother, like Moot has. And more, I believe Facebok is like COCAINE. It's addictive, and can destroy a life. I see people at work only using this shit, I'm the only one working sometimes, FUCK YOU MARK. I hope ISIS kill You. Sincerely yours, Felipe B.

    1. Re: Oh yeah. I knew it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you saying that
      a) someone employs you
      and
      b) you're one of the better workers?
      Where do you work?

      ps. I don't think it's just an English not the first language thing.

  20. finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm with ISIS on this matter roflmao... take G+ too please...

  21. With Twitter's recent censorship efforts ... by Notorious+G · · Score: 0

    With Twitter's recent censorship program targeting derived from the SJW sprectrum, I don't care if ISIS disrupts it.

  22. Charlie hedbo by goombah99 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    -1 not funny asshole.

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    Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
    1. Re:Charlie hedbo by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Yes, it is funny. Those clowns are by default funny, and their insane antics that border on Korea's Li'l Kim and his megalomania are even more.

      Sorry, but I can't take those asshats serious. We're talking about grown men who get all riled up over someone offending their imaginary buddy by drawing a picture of him.

      How the FUCK could you take lunatics like that serious?

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    2. Re:Charlie hedbo by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Ab-so-fucking-lutely!
      The biggest weapon against these clowns is humour. They simply cannot handle it.
      A bunch of dudes all dressing the same with matching beards, it's like some sort of homo-erotica act.

    3. Re:Charlie hedbo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plese, wear a shirt with a comics involving Christian god in the bible belt of the US.
      Free tip: make it bullet proof.

    4. Re:Charlie hedbo by stdarg · · Score: 1

      I don't understand. The fact that they get all riled up over someone offending their imaginary buddy is why you need to take them seriously.

    5. Re:Charlie hedbo by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No. That's a good enough reason to lock them up in a mental institution, but that's basically it.

      Why the fuck should I take lunatics serious? Do you take the bum with the "the end is near" sign around his neck standing on the street corner and babbling like the fool he is serious?

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    6. Re:Charlie hedbo by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I am not prejudiced. I would treat those lunatics exactly the same way I treat the towelheaded lunatics.

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    7. Re:Charlie hedbo by stdarg · · Score: 1

      That's a good example of someone I would take very seriously under the right circumstances. He is probably crazy. If he's babbling away on the corner, and I pass by, and he starts following me or something, I'd get ready to defend myself. Far more so than if I'm walking on the sidewalk and some random person talking on their cell phone is walking next to me. Similarly if some random normal person immigrates to my country, no problem, but if some nutjob who wants to kill people who insult his prophet wants to come, to me that's a problem to take seriously.

      It's not rational to ignore irrationality.

  23. big talkers by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll believe it when it happens. I think it is just a bogus attempt by ISIS to try to win American's favor.

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  24. Of Zuckerburgs and Men. by kuzb · · Score: 1

    I feel kinda bad about this, but part of me really hopes Zuckerberg is the one threat they actually follow through on.

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    1. Re:Of Zuckerburgs and Men. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      As if Sugarhill matters. Someone else will take his place and Facebook continues its existence.

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    2. Re:Of Zuckerburgs and Men. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm with you there

  25. I agree by JustNiz · · Score: 2

    I think the end of Facebook and Twitter would actually make the world a significantly better place for many reasons.
    Just one example would be during my commute every day its unusual to not see multiple morons (for whatever reason its nearly always women) that are drifting into other lanes, suddenly hard braking, or or causing multiple other problems by not keeping up with the busy traffic flow around them, because updating their facebook status is clearly more important than paying any attention to controlling 2 tons of metal barelling down the freeway.

    1. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couldn't possibly be reading/commenting on Slashdot :)

    2. Re:I agree by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      I think the end of Facebook and Twitter would actually make the world a significantly better place for many reasons.

      Indeed. When I first read the summary on the front page, my first thought was, "And nothing of value was lost."

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    3. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're paying attention to the road, how are you able to view the ~6" screen on another driver's phone (from within another vehicle) to determine exactly what they're doing?

    4. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see, so because a few people aren't responsible enough to pay attention while driving....your solution is to get rid of the website you *assume* they're using when you see them drive poorly?

      even if a BILLION people use it everyday for countless messages and videos and communications?

      the fact that you're so quick to jump to getting rid of said website, as opposed to say, a simple law against smartphones while driving...tells me that either:

      a. you're most likely blinded by your jealously of Zuckerberg's wealth.
      b. you're a moron and should never be put in charge of finding solutions to problems.
      c. or both.

    5. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are bowing their heads and keeping their hands up like a good believer does. Deleting Facebook and Twitter would end the spirituality as we know it by allowing the people to defiantly raise their heads again.

    6. Re:I agree by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      I'm assuming nothing.
      http://www.wtsp.com/story/news...

      See where it says facebook=27%?

  26. Smells like bullshit by BruceNotWillis · · Score: 0

    ISIS is the perfect tool to remove our freedom in the name of safety and security. "America the brave."

  27. DELETE THE FACEBOOKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh no guys, he's going to delete the facebook websights.

    Don't mess with ISIS, he is a great computer hacker.
    He'll make your twitter explode.

  28. Jack can just sick Sarkeesian on to them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can you speak Mr. Isis, when you have no mouth?

    1. Re:Jack can just sick Sarkeesian on to them by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Oh please yes.

      I can only repeat myself: Whoever loses. We win.

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    2. Re:Jack can just sick Sarkeesian on to them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't he get fired for going on a bender after losing to Washington?

  29. Meanwhile by Tailhook · · Score: 1

    While ISIS is threatening Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg is threatening to `investigate' his employees for failing to indulge BLM grievance mongering.

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    1. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While ISIS is threatening Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg is threatening to `investigate' his employees for failing to indulge BLM grievance mongering.

      Yup. The little SJW twat Z-man squabbling with minor stupid shit because his employees aren't leftist enough while the leftist's darlings the muslems threaten action against him for not letting them be all terroristy on his leftist web site.

      Gonna go make some popcorn and watch it all burn.

    2. Re:Meanwhile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does the Bureau of Land Management have to do with facebook?

      The Oregon is over now anyway. Their grievances have been mongered as much as they're going to be.

  30. Real internet tough guys by ZeroSerenity · · Score: 1

    Am I right?

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  31. Re:Confused by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

    isis and al quaeda are a bit like democrats and republicans. two ostensibly opposing forces both working to destroy humanity.

  32. We're all doooomed! by WaffleMonster · · Score: 0

    Swell media likes to do everything in their power to assist Daesh. As long as it sounds scary and keeps people afraid and clicking back for more then it must be news and therefore worthy of being published.

  33. The important thing to remember about ISIS by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is that they're very, very media savvy. They understand the value of PR, and are not above saying things they don't have any real plans to do just for the publicity effect. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'd be happy to lop off a few CEO heads (especially the Jew), but I'm guessing their primary aim is to keep us talking about them.

    And you know, we do have to talk about them, because that's the way our society operates and they know it. But we don't necessarily have to give their chest-thumping any credence. I think that's the primary thing they want; if we treat them as powerful then they will gain credibility and that will attract adherents. So let's review; the guys they're threatening are famous, high profile billionaires. They're already attractive targets for domestic terrorists and criminals; they're not soft targets for any screwball ISIS might inspire to martyrdom.

    ISIS also can get other things from from making largely empty threats. They can get whip up American anti-Muslim sentiment, which serves ISIS's purposes very well. The droves of Muslims eager to get away from ISIS's control undermines the legitimacy ISIS's claim to having established a new caliphate, so they are very quick to publicize the fact that anyone trying to leave is going to get kicked by Hungarian cameramen.

    If you don't want to be an unwitting ISIS stooge, take a deep breath and put them in perspective. Sure, they're a bunch of dangerous fanatics, but they're 6000 miles away. And yes, they're bound to have a few homicidal crackpot adherents here in the USA, but those crackpots are just a drop in our big bucket of homegrown homicidal crackpots, and we hardly give our native nutcases any attention at all. We're already taking our homegrown fanatics and mass killers in stride, so it's just a marginal effort to worry about ISIS.

    That's ISIS in a nutshell for us: they're a marginal concern. Not to say ISIS doesn't have a place on the list of the things we need to be concerned with, but it hardly deserves to be the center of our foreign policy, much less the center of our national policy.

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    1. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      "Wouldn't it be neat if someone killed soadso?"

      Half if not most attacks are not by direct effort. This is serious.

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    2. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is the fact that they're not really worth remembering at all. What, exactly, do these people contribute to humanity again ?

      Just another generation of regional idiots whose actions and beliefs contribute to the fact that they all continue to live in the Dark Ages.
      We really should give each opposing side one short range heavy mega-tonnage nuke to play with and just let them turn each other into sub-atomic particles.

      Here ya go Achmed, one Wrath of Allah with an engine on it. Oh, we also delivered one to Abdul over there. Muhammad across the border there has one too. Have fun.

      Extreme problems require extreme solutions. Fireballs the temperature of the Sun ( albeit briefly ) would solve a millennium or two worth of problem in a hurry.

    3. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... half if not most attacks are by random accident? I was going to the store and I accidentally shot up a school?

    4. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly this. The phrase "don't feed the trolls" comes to mind. ISIS are trolls, and American media is very, very happy to feed them. They threatened Fuckerberg and Dorsey because they knew it would get media attention, and guess what, it worked! There are already news articles tying these threats into the Apple vs. FBI situation, "See! ISIS! Terror! OMGz! Apple must comply or they'll kill the Zuck!!1"

      The average American is statistically far more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist. That's not what you're going to see on the nightly news, though.

    5. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is the value of Puerto Rico?

    6. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That's ISIS in a nutshell for us: they're a marginal concern. Not to say ISIS doesn't have a place on the list of the things we need to be concerned with, but it hardly deserves to be the center of our foreign policy, much less the center of our national policy."

      But, but, but, then how would the US govt manufacture consent for all the terrible things they want to do?

    7. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Jiro · · Score: 1

      if we treat them as powerful then they will gain credibility and that will attract adherents.

      If we treat them as powerful, attacking them will also gain credibility. Beheading videos may be great to recruit supporters, but they're also a great way of getting the West to accept military force used against them.

      ISIS actually doesn't understand that. Middle Eastern cultures tend to assume that if they threaten the West and the West doesn't attack them, it's because of weakness, not because of scruples. Of course, sometimes it is because of weakness, but sometimes it's because we really don't like the idea of killing people and we think of war as a last resort. ISIS can barely even comprehend that, and they can't figure out that each threat makes it incrementally more likely that enough people will say "to hell with the civilian casualties, these guys are evil and they need to be bombed into rubble".

    8. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by hey! · · Score: 1

      If we treat them as powerful, attacking them will also gain credibility. Beheading videos may be great to recruit supporters, but they're also a great way of getting the West to accept military force used against them.

      ISIS actually doesn't understand that. Middle Eastern cultures tend to assume that if they threaten the West and the West doesn't attack them, it's because of weakness, not because of scruples.

      Well, possibly. It's a bit simplistic to talk about "Middle Eastern cultures" as if they're one thing, and assume that determines the opinions of everyone in the Middle East as if they were cultural robots. People in the Middle East don't think uniformly about the West any more than people in the West agree about the Middle East. Some of them know a great deal about us. Dr. Khansari, the Iranian foreign minister, has spent more of his life in the US than in Iran, from the time he was a teenager. I suspect he understands us rather well.

      As for our scruples about attacking people, people in the Middle East can be forgiven if they don't believe the West has any, because some of us don't. It depends on politics -- who has the upper hand at the moment, the people with scruples or the people without?

      I think the same applies in the Middle East. Again we tend to think of people in the Middle East as cultural robots, but they've got politics too. Just as you can be pretty sure (in most election years anyway) that the Republican presidential nominee will veer to left in the general election and the Democrat will veer to the right, people in the Middle East posture according to political expediency too. Yes a beheading may bring the wrath of the West down on your country sooner or later, but they may also help you gain power over your rivals right now. That kind of cynically calculated political self-interest should be very recognizable to us because it happens everywhere.

      What I'm saying is that it's not necessarily all about us, even when people like ISIS claim it is, because they're liars.

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    9. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      ISIS actually doesn't understand that. Middle Eastern cultures tend to assume that if they threaten the West and the West doesn't attack them, it's because of weakness

      Citation other than Donald Trump needed.

      they can't figure out that each threat makes it incrementally more likely that enough people will say "to hell with the civilian casualties, these guys are evil and they need to be bombed into rubble".

      So... they want us to attack, but they can't figure out that provoking an attack will result in an attack? I'm not following.

    10. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Jiro · · Score: 1

      So... they want us to attack, but they can't figure out that provoking an attack will result in an attack?

      They want us to attack because they figure that attacks will be ineffectual and they want ineffectual attacks that are good for propaganda. They don't want us to actually bomb them back to the Stone Age (to the degree that they're not already in the Stone Age). ISIS being ISIS, they don't understand that the difference between ineffectual attacks and being bombed to the Stone Age is due to scruples, so they don't care that their threats are eroding those scruples.

    11. Re:The important thing to remember about ISIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add to that that this video is apparently not officially an ISIS video, but a video of some supporters of ISIS.

  34. Who...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know Jack Dorsey, but who's this Mark Zuckerberg?

    Anyway, Trump has a point about what's happening - like his presentation or not.
    None of the other canidates have even a clue as to how fragile and vulnerable
    we've become as a nation - thanks Bush!

    CAP === oath 'breakers'

  35. "Allah willing"...? by Pezbian · · Score: 1

    Guess the ISISsies haven't gotten the hint yet.

    --
    In a world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king--and the two-eyed man is a heretic.
    1. Re:"Allah willing"...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you mean what I am thinking..

  36. Terrorist organization going after a billionaire by spiritplumber · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, if you put Robert Downey on it, it'd make for a good movie.

    --
    Liberty - Security - Laziness - Pick any two.
  37. ISIS was attacked after gov threatened/humiliated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the point is that the person with the pen is able to garner more support from friends and allies, and thus more swords.

    How many friendly swords did captured journalists summon with their pen before they were beheaded?

    Face it, the real attacks on ISIS did not begin over slain journalists, rather it began when governments (those who command swords) had their citizens slain on their own streets, i.e. when those who command swords were threatened and/or humiliated. The barrels of ink spent lamenting beheaded journalists accomplished little beyond hand wringing and talk.

  38. Do you believe this crap, Dascombe? by tetraverse · · Score: 1

    Without the use of such raghead terminology such as Caliphate and Allah, we wouldn't even know if it was genuine.

    PROTHERO: Do you believe this crap, Dascombe?

    DASCOMBE: It's not our job to believe it, Lewis. Our job is to tell the people --

  39. stop that right now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're all awful people and should be ashamed of yourselves.

    -- should be carved on the side of some giant fucking mountain somewhere.
    Or maybe on the Moon, where everybody can see it 14 days a month.

  40. Winners write history, decide what ideas to pursue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those who think the Pen is mightier than the Sword are about to learn the unpoetic truth that a person with only a pen needs to have some really good friends with swords.

    The phrase means that in the course of history that ideas are a more powerful force for change than weapons.

    Well that's the poetic meaning. The reality of the situation is that only the ideas backed by force tend to get implemented.

    Its very much like entrepreneurship. There are many good ideas, what is lacking are teams capable of implementing those ideas. An idea without a capable team is nothing. And the geopolitical and historical reality is that these teams tend to need the ability to exercise force. Note "ability to", sometimes the threat is sufficient.

    Another way to look at it. The winners get to write history. Well part of that writing is deciding which ideas to pursue.

    Pen plus sword is a winning strategy. Pen alone is a losing strategy.

  41. Are you really that stupid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From what I've seen, unless they are trying to make a peaceful presentation on a college campus that doesn't align 100% with whatever the SJW safe-spacers are agitated about this minute, they won't get banned.

    Yaaaaawwwwwn.

    Godwin had nothing on the more recent (and far more tedious) likelihood that virtually any thread over a few comments long- regardless of the subject- will feature some tedious pillock finding a spurious excuse (#) to turn it into a rant about Social Justice Warriors.

    Refuse to call Trump a nazi though? Well in that case, Twitter [my emphasis] will make sure you don't go around ruining the first amendment with speech or anything.

    Now I'm genuinely trying to figure out if this whole post is actually meant to be a satire on ignorant right wing Americans, or if you're really just that ignorant.

    Look, do I have to post the link to the obligatory XKCD explaining who and what the First Amendment does- and more importantly *doesn't*- apply to? Do I? Do I?

    Okay, then. Obligatory XKCD.

    (No, not really. But if you're going on about the First Amendment like that and you *still* don't know the basic facts that the actual XKCD comic spells out, I doubt it's worth you wasting your time with difficult facts you're clearly unlikely to retain, or were never interested in learning in the first place.)

    (#) Okay, this isn't actually true- they rarely bother with a worthwhile excuse, they just turn the subject to SJWs because something something something.

  42. Allah the reasonable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Luckily, it seems Allah mostly isn't willing to do what these deluded freaks want.

  43. Typical internet toughguys by tommyatomic · · Score: 1

    These are just typical internet toughguys. With all the bluster of an angry 12yr old playing Call of Duty. All big talk .... no common sense.

    1. Re:Typical internet toughguys by onkelonkel · · Score: 1

      Interesting idea. Does ISIS threaten to punch people wearing Google Glass "right in the face"

      --
      None of them can see the clouds; The polished wings don't care.
  44. Hail Hydra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > "If you close one account, we will take 10 in return"

    Who knew they got their propaganda by reading Marvel Comics!

  45. Business and heritage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, it's time for FB and Twitter to grow up. Sometimes, you have to fire a client/customer. It sucks, because they are money, but in the end it's about ensuring your brand is untainted and that you are keeping your loyal and happy customers in the green whilst honoring your culture and heritage.

    It's painful, but oh well. Time to grow up. Get it done FB and Twitter. Time to pony up, you're not in Kansas anymore.

  46. Re:Waste of 1s and 0s by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Actually, the zeroes are free and plentiful, it's the ones that cost you.
    Of course, with certain types of memory the whole thing is flip flopped, much like juice/cider in Canada.

  47. If first they "execute" rather than "ignore" ... by drnb · · Score: 1

    Maybe. Had Ghandi simply been executed (ie martyred) that might have catalyzed change as well; although the transition would have been very, very, different.

    Doubtful in the Hitler, Stalin, Mao context. Sadly he would likely have been martyred long before he had a following. Ghandi's own strategy suggests that you are mistaken. First you need to be ignored, then you need to be laughed at. Hitler, Stalin, or Mao would have used a different strategy and started with execute rather than ignore. For moral persuasion to work the audience needs to be somewhat moral.

  48. just wondering... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    ...how many hellfires Zuckerberg could afford...

    --
    Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
  49. For one... by AmazingRuss · · Score: 1

    .... I'm actually inclined to cheer that bunch of goat fuckers on.

  50. We are ISIL! by Rinikusu · · Score: 0

    and we will *not* like your posts! Take that, America!

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    If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
  51. You're assuming access to the media by Bruce66423 · · Score: 1

    If the media are closed to you, then you just disappear. Never heard of again. Stalin had no problem with opposition - they just disappeared, and nobody dared ask where they were. The disappearance of most of the clergy of the Orthodox Church under Stalin is the most obvious example of that.

  52. Videos! by dstyle5 · · Score: 1

    They are watching the Slashdot videos.

  53. Allah willing by SylvesterTheCat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If you close one account, we will take 10 in return and soon your names will be erased after we delete your sites, Allah willing, and will know that we say is true."

    But, what if Allah doesn't will it?

    1. Re:Allah willing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Presumably, they burn in hell for callously murdering lots of people?

    2. Re:Allah willing by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      what if Allah doesn't will it?

      Click to Unfriend him.

    3. Re:Allah willing by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      But, what if Allah doesn't will it?

      Then you didn't lop enough heads off.

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      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
    4. Re:Allah willing by StikyPad · · Score: 2

      It's funny you point that out. In Arabic, Insha'Allah -- God willing -- is basically a filler word. They say it *all the time*, to roughly the same degree a teenager would say "like." It's unlikely they gave it's inclusion any thought, but perhaps they should. :)

    5. Re:Allah willing by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1

      Some people say "God willing" like that in the US as well to a similar extent. The thing that's more interesting is that a lot of them really mean it. That is, if you're living your life, it doesn't really matter what you do or how prudently you behave - you don't have any real control, it's all in God's hands. To the point where it's not worth driving safely, because if you made it, clearly you were *supposed* to make it, and if you die, clearly you were *supposed* to die.

      This isn't an Islam thing - Christianity has exactly this in predestination. Actually (some) Calvinists were even worse - if you went to heaven, that's all God - but if you sin and go to hell, that's your fault.

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  54. Re:Terrorist organization going after a billionair by Yergle143 · · Score: 1
  55. Re:Terrorist organization going after a billionair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or done that already

  56. It's time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To shove a few nukes up their asses. Feel the power of Gawd. Let's see if their deity will protect them.

  57. Re:Waste of 1s and 0s by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    ISIS is so backwards their memory is probably first generation ECL. They need a whole data center to keep their one gigabyte of memory cool.

  58. I wish they would by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Productivity around the world would go up immediately by at least 40%

  59. i for one am with ISIS on this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    screw FB and all its vapid content.

  60. Here's what should happen by Chas · · Score: 1

    They should each make troll videos showing a burka'ed head fellating them while they eat bacon, drink a beer and wipe their butts with the ISIS flag. All while mumbling "Run from the bombs, run from the tanks, you can't handle the truth!"

    Then auto-refresh Rickroll them.

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    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  61. ISIS issues threats? GREAT! by golodh · · Score: 1
    Because that means it hurts them. So we're on to something.

    Redouble the efforts, install a taskforce, pass a bill to subsidise on-line companies that have to cope with large amounts of propaganda from recognised terrorist groups!

    And keep an eye and an ear out for their next complaint. ...

  62. Re:The important thing to remember about Americans by Gob+Gob · · Score: 1

    is that they're very, very media savvy. They understand the value of PR, and are not above saying things they don't have any real plans to do just for the publicity effect. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'd be happy to lop off a few CEO heads (especially the Jew), but I'm guessing their primary aim is to keep us talking about them.

    And you know, we do have to talk about them, because that's the way our society operates and they know it. But we don't necessarily have to give their chest-thumping any credence. I think that's the primary thing they want; if we treat them as powerful then they will gain credibility and that will attract adherents. So let's review; the guys they're threatening are famous, high profile billionaires. They're already attractive targets for domestic terrorists and criminals; they're not soft targets for any screwball Americans might inspire for votes. Americans also can get other things from from making largely empty threats. They can get whip up Middle East anti-Muslim sentiment, which serves America's purposes very well. The droves of Muslims eager to get away from America's control undermines the legitimacy America's claim to having established a new world order, so they are very quick to publicize the fact that anyone trying to leave is going to get kicked by Hungarian cameramen.

    If you don't want to be an unwitting American stooge, take a deep breath and put them in perspective. Sure, they're a bunch of dangerous fanatics, but they're 1 mile away. And yes, they're bound to have a few homicidal crackpot adherents here in the Middle East / Asia, but those crackpots are just a drop in our big bucket of homegrown homicidal crackpots, and we hardly give our native nutcases any attention at all. We're already taking our homegrown fanatics and mass killers in stride, so it's just a marginal effort to worry about Americans.

    That's Americans in a nutshell for us: they're a marginal concern. Not to say Americans doesn't have a place on the list of the things we need to be concerned with, but it hardly deserves to be the center of our foreign policy, much less the center of our national policy.

  63. Zionist Propaganda! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just another instance of the Zionists using propaganda and fear to scare the world into creating more Arab hatred using the ISIS boogeymen.

    Facebook is used by the Zionists to spread propaganda more than any other terrorist group.

  64. Good luck assholes. by sabbede · · Score: 1
    What are you going to do, kill the people you're trying to persuade? Idiots.

    There are two ways to destroy twitter or facebook. Invent a superior product and outcompete them, or buy the companies and shut them down. Of course, this won't happen, because it would mean removing the camel dicks from their mouths and/or rectums for a minute.

  65. Re:ISIS was attacked after gov threatened/humiliat by Megol · · Score: 1

    So you don't understand the meaning of that quote. That writers are killed in mass doesn't matter...

  66. What if Allah is not willing? by tlambert · · Score: 1

    What if Allah is not willing?

    Just saying...

  67. Re:ISIS was attacked after gov threatened/humiliat by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    en masse

  68. Re:If first they "execute" rather than "ignore" .. by StikyPad · · Score: 2

    The audience isn't the government; it's the populus. And given that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were ultimately unsuccessful -- and only one by armed conflict -- I think it's safe to say that superior ideas triumphed over superior physical might.

  69. Mother of All Cyber Battles by haapi · · Score: 1

    I thought Baghdad Bob had died? "We will destroy Coalition Forces in the Mother of all Battles, their blood will run like crushed date juice down our beards" and stuff like that.
     

    --
    Well, apparently, you only have to fool the majority of people for a little while.
  70. turn the whole middle east into molton sand by johnwerneken · · Score: 0

    honor culture does not deserve to exist. exterminate these vermin and their toilet cult of islam. piss on allazh.

  71. Re:If first they "execute" rather than "ignore" .. by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

    populace

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  72. Re:If first they "execute" rather than "ignore" .. by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    Populous is what I meant to type, actually. But thanks.

  73. Subversion VS blockage by phorm · · Score: 1

    I say leave them up, but start messing with them in useful was.
    * Post events for a "Secret ISIS Supporters meeting at time X in place Y", kindly inform the FBI to be present
    * Make sure all the targeted ads are for male enhancement and pork products
    * Start messing with the messages in insidious ways, adding confusion to anyone following.
    * Identify/track members to assist law enforcement

  74. Re:If first they "execute" rather than "ignore" .. by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

    That would still be incorrect. Populous means having a large population. Two different words. Populous and populace.

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  75. Re:If first they "execute" rather than "ignore" .. by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    Right, I was just pointing out that I also misspelled the word that I was using incorrectly to boot. :)

  76. Something Churchill said by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    When Germany invaded the Soviet Union, Winston Churchill mused, "If Hitler had invaded Hell, I'd feel obliged to say some kind words about Satan in the House of Commons." Yay Zuckerberg! Yay Dorsey!

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    "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  77. Religions are ~2000 years old; by NewYork · · Score: 1

    Religions are ~2000 years old;
    Humans are ~200,000 years old;
    "Earth Is Flat" --Your Religion;
    Religion was born when the first con-man met the first fool;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_ancient_history

  78. Re:If first they "execute" rather than "ignore" .. by drnb · · Score: 1

    The audience isn't the government; it's the populous.

    You are missing the part about being executed before having a following.

    And given that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were ultimately unsuccessful -- and only one by armed conflict -- I think it's safe to say that superior ideas triumphed over superior physical might.

    Stalin was unchallenged until death. Mao was set aside in old age by other men with swords, others of power in Mao's government, not the populous. To this day those who speak out against the government in Russia and China risk jail or death. The Tiananmen Square massacre of peaceful protesters calling for communist party reform occurred in 1989, long after Mao, long after the party moved away from his extremism. But one thing remained, absolute control by the party, by the swords. The fact that not all swords think alike does not change this.

  79. Re:ISIS was attacked after gov threatened/humiliat by drnb · · Score: 1

    So you don't understand the meaning of that quote. That writers are killed in mass doesn't matter...

    And you failed to comprehend the original point. That a pen can only succeed with friendly swords to protect it. Reality is that pens are secondary to swords. Your own argument admits that.