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Anonymous's War on Trump Described as Successful and Disastrous (techinsider.io)
CitizensForTrump.com and the Trump Hotel Collection site reportedly went offline Friday, seeming to confirm threats made by the hacktivist collective Anonymous. But TechInsider is reporting that "The 'total war' that Anonymous declared earlier this month against Donald Trump has devolved into a war among hackers fighting within the group and pro-Trump supporters who are trolling them within their chat rooms." They describe two warring factions within the group's anti-Trump movement, also quoting CloudFlare's CEO as saying denial of service attacks "are sort of the functional equivalent of a caveman with a club." But while Trump has warned that law enforcement officials are pursuing the attackers, one Anonymous member unequivocally announced that still more attacks were planned. "This is NOT the last time you hear of this operation. We will be watching, and will act when the time is right."
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As a run off the mill left-wing liberal, I'd say that slimy sneaky bastard Ted Cruz is by far more evil than Donald Trump. And so think most established Republicans.
Perhaps these anonymous script kiddies should have been thinking about that a bit more. Not that I appreciate their actions anyway, just saying...
I know anonymous isnt a real group, but if it was what agenda would they have? anit-democracy?
Thanks, anonymous. I was worried that Trump wasn't getting enough media attention; I almost started remembering there are other candidates.
Pro Trump, Anti Trump, Trump Trump, Trump? Trump! TRUMP TRUMP TRUPM TRUPMUTRPRATRRUEMMP
We will be watching, and will act when the time is right.
What a bunch of little dweebs. I'm sure Trump is shaking in his wing tips.
"Mommy, I don't like what that man said. Tell him to shut up." "There, there. No need to cry. Momma's gonna DOS him into silence."
I can't imagine what they could possibly do to derail Trump's campaign. Trump is not cowed by divulging his affairs - he's been a "reality" TV star, and his loud mouth has already exposed all manner of nastiness without derailing the campaign already. His websites are just that - websites. He likely doesn't rely on them either for getting out his message (the MSM is doing a fine job already) or for his business dealings, so shutting them down is useless.
His supporters don't support him because he's a high-and-mighty politician of impeccable ideology. They support him because that's precisely what he isn't. There's simply nothing that Anonymous can do to dissuade Trump's followers from following. And everyone else who might be swayed by anything they uncover is already swayed by the ranting that has already come out of Trump's mouth. I just don't see anywhere they can go from here.
"I a weak-minded hypersensitive fool who can't handle what you're saying so I need to shut you up!"
All this "disrupt the process" behaviour is ridiculous.
It started with people at rallies shouting Trump down while he was trying to speak.
What's the point of that? You are so incensed and against that one candidate that you don't want the democratic process to happen?
This goes on for awhile, then protesters come to rallies and get manhandled by the supporters who actually want to listen to what he says.
Next, protesters come to rallies dressed as KKK members and are surprised when they get beat down?
Recently, a 15yo girl protester punched a supporter while he was turning away, got pepper sprayed for doing that... and tried to file sexual assault charges against him? (He was only exonerated because the incident was caught by security camera. And if it *hadn't*, that man's life would be completely ruined with no chance of redemption.)
Anonymous is so against Trump that they want to sabotage the democratic process by taking down his websites?
Elites are so against Trump that they are going against their "support the candidate, whoever he is" pledge? Rubio does not give up his delegates, even though he's out of the race? Delegates are allowed to be "faithless" and vote for whomever? Make an 8-state rule to exclude Ron Paul, but change it to allow Cruz in?
(Trump gets fed up with all of this, decides that if everyone else is breaking the pledge that he can also... and of course the media only reports that Trump broke his promise. Also, breaking that promise loses him delegates, but of course no one else loses *their* delegates for doing the same thing.)
I honestly think that if Trump has a clear majority of support (which seems likely) and doesn't get the nomination, through skulduggery (which is also likely) that there will be riots.
We're often told "it's our fault, we voted for him". If we actually vote for someone and he *doesn't* get in, it is completely rational and just to set fire to the process.
Really. This whole thing is ridiculous.
will work out similar to the War on Drugs/Poverty/etc. it won't.
Wait, you mean the state of refusing to attribute one's works to one's own name has now unilaterally declared war on an individual person?
And it didn't work?
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...that Anonymous has finished dismantling ISIS, as they asserted they would do (before their Trump project)?
How lame can you get. What a bunch of simple, skill-less cowards.
So, once again the Great Nerd Army of the Internet has been defeated. Beaten. Routed. Vanquished. Wiped the floor with. Humiliated. Curbsomped. Brown-swirlied.
Seriously, did anybody seriosly think it would go any different?
Anony-mouse has been defeated and crapped upon in each and every foolish endeavour it set itself up to, when they didn't simply shit their pants and give up (like that "big war" against the Zeta cartels. So tell me, anony-mice, did you defeated ISIS? Hm, no. Though you claimed you had "foiled attacks". It turned out that was false and some sad nerdo in Italy was arrested and began cooperating before he had even been accused of anything. Anony-mice always do that: they talk. A lot. They cry. A lot. I bet they also need a new pair of pants.
Nerds. Always losers. Always. You know, we wouldn't be laughing so hard at you if you weren't being that foolish. When are you going to grow up? Yes, I know flipping burgers is not that fabulous tech job that would have made you "our boss" a few years after high school, but pretending you're some brave cyber-warrior fighting against global oppression from behind your LCD monitor is not going to make up for it. Tomorrow you will still have a shitty job. And the day after tomorrow you will still have a shitty job. And this is going to go on day after day after day until you die or retire. It's not going to get better. Silly fantasies aren't going to change that. And getting in trouble with the law will mean you will lose even that shitty job.
Grow up. Get over yourselves. You're losers. Deal with it.
When they first started Anonymous seemed really cool, fighting oppressive regimes etc.
What happened to turn them into a bunch of whiny asshats that supress free speech ad are only capapble of lame skript kiddy DDOS attacks?
Scott Adams had an interesting take on extremism.
If you frame the argument as a disease it becomes non-prejudicial. Describe extremism as a disease, note that there are hotspots of this disease in specific locations of the world, and what is a common-sense reaction?
Imagine that the tiny nation of Elbonia suffers a Zombie Virus outbreak. Luckily, the virus does not spread easily, but prolonged personal contact with an infected zombie increases the odds of transmission. Once infected, the Elbonian becomes a zombie killer. As it turns out, most people are immune to the virus. Over 99% of the public have no risk of catching it. But 1% is far too many zombie killers.
For starters, they would quarantine the entire nation of Elbonia to limit the damage. This is obviously unfair to all uninfected Elbonians but it is also the only practical way to protect the rest of the world. Once the quarantine is in place, the professionals can get to work on a cure.
The problem is, of course, the emotional baggage. If someone tries to talk logically about certain subjects, they can be shouted down simply by being called bad names.
This is how "extreme rhetoric" has become the new clickbait, and how people like Anonymous take it upon themselves to save the world from Trump. This is how a 15yo girl can accuse a Trump supporter of molesting her at a rally, when the video showed no such action.
It's the emotional baggage. People hear "racist" or whatever, close their minds, and let their outrage have free reign.
They believe they are working for the greater good.
Just another joke from anonymous. "We are going to release a whole bunch of personal info". Heard on phone, "Hey Jake, you find anything that sounds personal on google? Wikipedia, sure, nobody reads it that will work, I'M ON THE PHONE MA, JUST MAKE ME A GRILLED CHEESE,.. AND CUT OFF THE CRUST".
Any script kiddie can set up a ddos, as Anonymous demonstrates so well. They still couldn't hack their way into 127.0.0.1.
That describes Donald Trump as well, but cavemen have better hair.
The office of the president can exert power without the compliance of congress in the following areas:
1) Foreign policy
2) Arbitrary short term military action; "commander in chief" is not just a meaningless phrase
3) Executive orders (which is a pretty broad canvas to paint on...)
All of the above are potential sources of long term consequences in the areas of military action, social change, international trade and relations.
Having said that, I am very confident that no Republican of any stripe can win the presidency this time around. This is due to the torpedo-at-the-waterline that has been, and continues to be, Trump's effect on the Republican party. I see concern about presidential action by Republicans like Cruz and pseudo-Republicans such as Trump as something that be be safely deferred until the Republicans can rebuild their brand from the mess they've made out of it the last six years or so. I also suspect that will take them quite a while.
I do worry about having Clinton in there; she's Trump-lite as far as I'm concerned. It seems pretty clear from the media bias and the disruption of the Republican party's ability to be effective that it will be Clinton we end up with; the American public has a consistent history of going with what the media tells them. For a while, I nursed some hope that the ability to do one's own research becoming available to most via the Internet would change this, but I have seen very few such signs, and it's been around long enough that I think they would have been easily obvious by now if they were actually there.
Sanders still has a chance; but the odds are, at the very least, quite seriously stacked against him.
I'm most interested in the next iteration of congressional elections. Last time around, voter satisfaction was 14%, and re-election rates were 94%. Recent polling puts satisfaction with congress at this point even lower at 11%; I keep asking myself if that might be enough to make people actually realize that the problem is congress in general, and not "the other representatives in congress." I'd like to think so, but last election's set of numbers doesn't make me optimistic about it at all.
Interesting times, anyway.
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"donald trump" is not something that millions of people consume regularly, just his lovers
Anything with the word "Anonymous" in the title can be directly translated to "FBI/CIA"
Sabu ratted out his comrades in order for a plea deal with the FBI - In exchange the FBI/CIA now own anonymous.
You'll notice a lot more politically motivated retarded shit from "FBI Anonymous now", like some retarded war on ISIS shit, and retarded war on Trump shit.
The real problem here is outlets like Slashdot and the mainstream media still pretend Anonymous is still the old Anonymous, when they know damn well that organization has been infiltrated and revamped to fit FBI/CIA agendas
Cant believe how many sheep fell for this FBI ploy, yet again..... Wake up sheeple!
These punks are just big fat retards living in mommy's basement eating Cheetos. They are just a bunch of script kiddies,
The Truth is a Virus!!!
Theyve released a new video saying this.
These people are the government
The previous poster was clearly referring to the 2nd highly-publicized case of a trump supporter who got cuffed for punching a protester.
In this particular incident, the Trump supporter who did the punching was a black man, and the person he punched was one of a pair of Bernie supporters being escorted out of the rally by security. The first Bernie boy (the one who got punched) had shoved a paper with a confederate flag on it into the Black Trump supporter's face, and the 2nd guy in the Bernie pair was displaying a Klan hood. That's NOT to say these were Klansmen, just that they were bearing Klan garbage and shoving it into people's faces while pretending that Trump had something to do with the Klan - which he NEVER has.
Trump has been asked about the Klan many times over the past years (it's standard left-wing faux journalist shtick to ask any right-winger about the Klan, gay stuff, and abortion) and always denounced them, but because he was slow to denounce them yet again recently while being asked about the Klan and "other groups" without being told WHICH groups (and while repeatedly asking the reporter "which groups?"), his opponents have been pretending he was pro-Klan. Anybody who thinks Trump is pro Klan is probably so stupid they do not know the Klan was started by Democrats and that all the Democrats in the Senate, including Bernie AND Hillary voted to be lad by an actual Klansman named Robert Byrd a few years ago.
The schools are doing a VERY bad job teaching history these days, because unionized Democrat teachers, one of the most energetic components of their party, fear their students might vote "the wrong way" in the future if they learned the truth about the Democrat party.
Fascinating piece, and it's interesting to watch both the authoritarian faction within Anonymous and the Libertarian faction, which I would consider the "historical anonymous," that apparently still believes in truth without ideology. The Sanders supporting Anonymous vs. the Trump supporting Anonymous, to put it another way. And this incredible and noteable fight that's been raging within the group for the last five years. It seems so far, that neither side has been able to claim victory, and both sides keep asserting that this is the "fake anonymous" at work.
I find myself supporting the more traditional Anonymous, as these things go.
But still an interesting battle, nevertheless.
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...on 9-11 were "fearful babies" who by your reckoning were irrationally afraid of "some people in the desert on the other side of the planet"? Same for all the other people in the Western world who've been murdered by these psychopaths over the past 40 years. Islam is a toxic BELIEF SYSTEM (NOT a race) that people CHOOSE to adopt and that instructs them to murder anybody who disagrees. The politically-correct (mob-driven dishonesty for political purposes) elites of the West have shown no willingness to truly face this NAZI-like supremacist ideology, and it has now grown to control a region bigger than some US states and has sent homicidal agents into a number of Western nations, but you apparently see no no problem.
OK, so you're either a closet jihadi or a suicidal dirtbag. Got it. Go publish a video of yourself on YouTube giving out your name and address and burning a Koran and prove that the fear is as irrational as you pretend it is while probably hiding-out in mommy's basement.
the people who draw B.C., Marmaduke, The Peanuts, etc?
It's shocking to see so many people getting their information and opinions from singers, actors, cartoonists and comedians and then think of themselves as wise and informed.
Dilbert is amusing, sometimes even pretty funny, but please take some time to actually study some history, instead of either grabbing onto arguments about various tactics and the opinions of the nation's court jesters. Try reading some of what our founders wrote when they were designing the government of this nation.
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The problem with calling yourself anonymous is that the establishment opposing Trump can attack Trump and say they're 'Anonymous'. I think most people realize this by now. The systems in place that control the majority of the media outlets love pushing these stories to infect the minds of people who really want to see change. I disagree with a few things Trump says but I've taken a leap of faith with him because I want to believe that he's really as willing and capable as he appears, when it comes to ripping out and burning all of the widespread infections in our political system. I voted for Obama, buying into his message of change. Maybe I'm just falling for the same game on the other side. If the GOP denies the overwhelming support of the people then I think we're going to see some serious fires start to catch in this nation.
What kind of a fucking stupid thing to claim, that an undefined "group" of individuals who make random unrelated statements under the title of "anonymous" have any coherent position on any issue, that there is any normative behaviour typical to all those who claim the moniker, and that they have collectively and decidedly "turned into a bunch of whiny asshats".
You're more a tool than any I've seen on slashdot for a long time.
Of course there are asshats in "anonymous". There are all sorts of people. They have no collective purpose. They do not have a council. They are not organised.
For all intents and purposes, "they" do not exist (except as individuals), and you are a troll for attempting to incite disgust or shame or ridicule at "those rebels".
Now fucking stop with the strawman arguments. Go have a nice wank by yourself in the corner and stop bothering the adults.
Oh, I forgot, this is slashdot, childish ignorant noise scores 5+ Insightful on a regular basis...
I gotta say, this election season is bringing the american chickens out on display more than usual. The whole system, process, finance, "results" - the whole fucking circus is going into overdrive, and you all seem so shocked that it's showing itself as a circus.
How can you all be so "shocked" at Trump, when you put the Gipper to the wheel for 2 terms, and he was a FUCKING COWBOY ACTOR ?
You're all clowns in your own little drama, most of you too blind to see that you're reading comic books instead of actually looking at the real world around you.
The break-up of the Disunited States of the Americas is long overdue ...
This sort of abuse is what causes certain freedoms on the Internet to be curtailed or lost altogether.
If they think he's wrong? How pathetic the Left are.
The Left know that they are wrong, but wish that they were right.
The Right know that they are right, but wish that they were wrong...
I'm no Trump fan but DDOS site is just stupid. It's the juvenile equivalent of pulling a girls hair. Pathetic. Embarrassingly sad. That's the best they can do??
"(c) The Democratic party rigged this election a year ago when it setup the rules"
Can you blame Hillary for fixin' the game after her humiliation in '08 ?
1) essentially bankrupting the (then) best funded primary campaign ever
2) Loading her organization with burned out has beens (jobs for the boys) who never really understood that the rules had changed since '92
3) Being way too slow (and that includes the entire management group of her organization) how the rule changes had changed the game and thus the strategy needed, reaulting in plans that were essentially based on Winner Takes All and never really getting the caucus/primary difference.
This time she's taking no chances, machine politics at it's finest
Wait... I forgot...... Does Obama dump the screaming new born kids in the fire @ Bohemian Grove during the Cremation of Care Ritual , OR Just the High Priest? Drone The Grove 2016! Yes Grandma, for the last time there will be countless wave after wave of Drones flying above the Bohemian Grove streaming the Cremation of Care Ritual to YouTube and CNN, get over it and take your pills silly...
I did not attack Scott Adams, nor did I attack what he said. That was not my point. My point was that too many people are giving more credence to people and their words based on their celebrity (always has been a problem) and that the celebrities people are listening to are increasingly the entertainers.
In other words:
the new version of the "resort to authority" fallacy is the "resort to to court jester" fallacy. Court jesters too are sometimes completely right in what they say, but that still does not make it a good idea to turn to them (exclusively or primarily) for your information and wisdom. I started noticing about a decade ago that many of the younger people I was encountering at the office were getting their "news" and opinions from Comedy Central (citing Jon Stewart and Colbert as sources) and they often lacked any actual knowledge of history. Very sad and a great way to lose that nation.
I sense a strong reality distortion field in your post. Bernie is simply one of the remaining professional politicians with a consistent track record. He's fighting for the same goals since the early 70s and has decided to run for President because this is essentially his last chance - he'll be too old next time, given that most presidents are re-elected for a second term. He doesn't attack Hillary on certain points, because he's a man of principles who respects his adversaries. He has always been like that. Look at old speeches and you'll see. Since he's against big money and for the middle class, he has gained some support, but it was also clear from the start that he'd never get nominated. And he won't. Sorry to spoil your tinfoil hat dream, but, realistically speaking, it is really damn hard to find a big conspiracy here. He's actually a big nuisance for Hillary.
Like hacking voting machines?