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Chrome 50 Updates Push Notifications, Drops Support For Old Windows and OS X Versions (venturebeat.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from VentureBeat: Google today launched Chrome 50 for Windows, Mac, and Linux, adding the usual slew of developer features. You can update to the latest version now using the browser's built-in silent updater, or download it directly from google.com/chrome. As announced in November 2015, Chrome now no longer supports Windows XP, Windows Vista, OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, OS X 10.7 Lion, nor OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. Chrome 50 allows sites to include notification data payloads with their push messages. This eliminates the final server check -- the initial version relied on service workers to proactively fetch the information for a notification from the server, leading to problems when there were multiple messages in flight or when the device was on a poor network connection. Push notification payloads must be encrypted. Sites can now detect when a notification is closed by the user, resulting in better analytics and allowing for cross-device notification dismissal. The look of notifications can now be customized with timestamps and icons. Chrome 50 also brings support for declarative preload.
Sites can now detect when a notification is closed by the user, resulting in better analytics
So notifications are going to be used to deliver ads?! Awesome! I love it when website shove stuff in my face. Now they'll be able to do it when I don't visit their site. Thanks Google!
I get dropping XP and I kind of get dropping Snow Leopard. However, Vista, Lion, and Mountain Lion? Eh, I will just stick with Firefox, thanks.
No one should still be running XP unless it's on a specialized system, and those shouldn't be used for general web browsing anyway.
But OS X 10.8? That came out in 2012, not 2001. Even 10.7 is still fairly modern. 10.6/Snow Leopard is getting long in the tooth, so that might make sense to drop support, but this will just make people using the older Macs run out of date browsers or find another product.
"proactively fetch the information" is crucial and intentional part of design. HTTP is not meant to be an interactive protocol, but strictly request and response. By moving away from this in order to push more ads you are removing a great deal of assumptions and introducing a whole set of previously impossible attack scenarios.
Hurray! A web browser that finally listens for packets of data!
so it wont run on XP thats bullshit xp is the most popular OS in the world some thinglike like 60% of pcs run xp
The 2 remaining users will be highly upset.
God, why can't Firefox use a sane versioning system like Chrome!? It seems like there's an update every week! Everybody really should just ditch Firefox and use Chrome instead because of things like this.
Oh... wait! This *is* Chrome. And nobody cares when Chrome does something, but when Firefox does it, this place turns into one long bitch fest.
Despite all the new bells and whistles, Chrome is just another example of a publicly available spy tool used by monolithic corporations to invade the privacy of the average citizen.
Google is evil.
Don't know if it was at version 50, but Chome no longer supports 32-bit Linux. Chromium still does, though.
Intrusive ad delivery. Who cares if you don't want it, right? We'll force it on you. Google gives it away with "1. Promote Your New Products to Your Target Audience" as it's PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE from http://www.browserpushnotifica... and this is why they bought up Chromium to turn it into an ad machine. People will wise up and drop it like a rock once word of this gets out. Mark my words. Why? Nobody likes being infected by these damn ads from their open bid networks that malware makers abuse since they will sell adspace to anyone who pays and malware makers do pay. They make as much as Google does off you by ripping you off.
You really think Google pays people to post on this site? It's *that* influential? Get real.
Unfortunately, there IS a reason some people may not want to upgrade OS X: some older Macbook Pros have a hardware flaw in their GPUs, and later versions of OS X panic (i.e., crash) with these machines where the older versions don't. Then there are the poor souls who just can't bring themselves to retire their PPC-based models. I mean, c'mon - the Luxor Lamp iMacs still look pretty damn cool. Generally, OS X upgrades are very worthwhile, but some people with hardware that's 5+ years old but otherwise working fine are getting the pinch.
Take it easy, Charlie, I've got an Angle...
See subject: I would've used 'souled-out' which someone else did add after. HTTP Server PUSH = EZ to stop using hosts.
* That's all I'll be adding to my lists in my hosts file as I am SURE my sources in the security community for hosts data my program imports will as well - simple!
(So, again - you are dead-on right: This IS cool, since push is simple to stop using hosts that blocks not only ads but FAR MORE THREATS than any single other method does for far less using what you have natively - which I made as easy as possible to do via APK Hosts File Engine)
APK
P.S.=> It's amazing what the "madmen" will resort to using programmers to do it (since they're too technically illiterate to be able to do it themselves) by FORCING it on a user - the tech itself REQUIRES NO REQUEST from users so it is indeed, aptly named, by being PUSHY - thank goodness it will, as usual, be EASY to stop just how I said above, & yes, using hosts... apk
I started with Reaper as my first DAW. It is professional and very cost effective. What I like about Reaper over every other DAW I've seen is they don't bother with skeumorphic crap. I would call Reaper a programmers editor. The individual tools like the dynamic range compressor look primitive but that is just the UI which matters none.
Runs on ancient macs no problem, has been rock solid reliable for me, and has done everything I need. I'm not a pro and have never used pro tools but I can cut and mix quite well with Reaper with what I consider a programmer friendly style UI to boot.
If you do have to change that might be one to consider.
Have you ever seen those two overlapping diamonds at the end of the address bar when you visit a site like Gmail? That's the desktop push notification feature that they are talking about, or at least it's the predecessor of it. So, yes you are correct in the sense that if you are stupid enough to authorize an spam service to push notifications to your desktop then you will receive these advertisements. Let's call this digital evolution, if you can't be bothered to read something before agreeing to it, then either deal with the consequences of your own ineptitude or put down the computer and grab a coloring book.
Now from an effort standpoint, I fail to see how this has any kind of an advantage over a traditional RSS stream. What does this accomplish other than obfuscating the delivery mechanism and turning a web browser into something that it's not?
Is this lack of support for XP, Mountain Lion, etc, because the code is now using API calls available only in the later OSes? Or are they simply checking the environment at install or run time and refusing to run if it detects an earlier OS version?
The first reason, I could understand. But since it's occurring across OS's, I have to think it's the later. Which makes no sense. If someone is using their browser as their primary interface, it would seem like, even though it's not recommend, it is their prerogative. I almost feel like the point of a web browser is to make whatever a users underlying platform actually is irrelevant.
Especially considering XP is still in widespread use in corporate america, and with Microsoft no longer maintaining it being bad enough, but now those PC's will end up being forced to use outdated and lacking in security browsers. Does Google really benefit by seeing XP desktops upgrade to Windows 10?
You're incredibly naive if you think big companies don't pay people to frame and direct discussion on forums and social media. Put it THIS way - I worked for one of the largest telecom providers there is in their NOC. As technically SOLID as some of the guys I worked with were,. we were TOLD (threatened actually) to NOT comment on discussions about the company online where they occurred - we were told they had "special people" (whom I found out WERE MARKETERS) doing it. This came under the penalty of the LOSS OF YOUR JOB if you did.
* Google's not influential - Their money is.
(If you don't realize that, read the first sentence I wrote & get your head out of the sand man... abres los ojos/open your eyes & wake up!)
APK
P.S.=> See subject: Care to explain WHY /. uses connections to Google's gstatic domain then here? That money TALKS LOUD to the owner is why... don't fool yourself. I have NO PROBLEM with him making a buck, I really don't (I held off releasing my program out of respect for webmasters for a GOOD 9++ yrs. in fact & kept it to myself or a few friends only in fact because of that) - I do, however, have a problem with OpenBID ad networks infecting people, ruining their systems, & stealing from them (as well as stealing bandwidth users pay for - so once the "malware explosion" got SO bad from 2012 on (was bad 2004 on but it got REALLY BAD 2011 on) I released it) - & please - I'm not stupid: I absolutely KNOW who trolls me here (I've caught MORE than my share of advertisers & webmasters doing it, ask JustAnotherOldGuy, or those who work for advertisers partners like AndyMadigan as 2 examples of a dozen I could rattle off here easily)... apk
Vista has such a small number of users who care about upgrading so why bother with them.
Yet Microsoft is continuing to support these users for one more year, with support ending in mid-April 2017. This will just push users back onto Internet Explorer 9 for this final year.
When Chrome stopped issuing Mac updates for the 32-bit processor in 2014, it was the death knell for my venerable 2006 MacBook (now running Mint Linux). As the 8-Bit Guy demonstrated in his YouTube, the 32-bit MacBook can run the latest 32-bit Windows OS and 32-bit Chrome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJw8aSxEFwQ
This is not "evolution" of any sort. Its deliberate destruction of user experience.
"if you can't be bothered to read something before agreeing to it" is BULLSHIT and you know it.
That is a very inhumane way of seeing things.
Is that a machine you need the latest browser on, though?
Probably not. Like Windows XP, OS X 10.6 "Snow Leopard" is no longer supported. Security updates to a web browser won't help if the operating system itself has forever-day vulnerabilities.
In Open Source land you can run full-blown desktop environments with fancy 3D effects (check out Compiz or modern KDE-Plasma) and all the bells and whistles. You can also run minimalist window managers. You can do anything in-between. "I updated my system and now it's slow" generally doesn't happen, not unless you go out of your way to actually add a new service or the like.
Or unless an operating system update adds it for you, as Ubuntu 11.10 did to people who had been happily using GNOME 2. After a month of wrangling with Un(usabil)ity, 11.10's replacement for GNOME 2, I said F it and installed Xfce, one of said "minimalist window managers": sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
The general case is that a user can start off with a mainstream window manager, but as time passes, the mainstream window manager will bloat up with Wirth's law, and the user will need to retrain himself on a minimalist window manager. And eventually, later versions of Xfce and LXDE are likely to become bloated, after which point no supported free GUI will be available for the hardware.
Since /. limits posts lengths, I'm going to post a few posts after this JUST to see you squirm & throw a tantrum (or evade my points). Coren22's "APKolypse" is going to be one for sure, as I know it's you (what's the matter - why the "AC" post big bad "registered 'luser'"? Thought you were BETTER than us AC posters?? I don't see it in you TROLLING ME by ac posts now do I??? NOPE - neither does anyone else, lol!)
APK
P.S.=> 1st of all, I used BRIDGED router firewalls to my cable modem http://slashdot.org/comments.p... might as well tell you since you're TOO dumb to figure it out - why? More abilities -
Bitch tactics in putting words in my mouth I never said = WEAK! apk
Why do you care about the version number. It's the latest one, the only one you should use anyway.
With all the encoding magick, its practically impossible to filter garbage(ads, tracking) effectively, without impacting perfomance with DPI and/or SSL proxying, which opens a whole other can of worms...
Blocking IP adresses of the worst offenders is a reasonable solution, no?
+Fravia was right about the whole "heading into a new dark age thing". Lets hope that rate of technological change makes sure that these abominations make themselves irrelevant soon enough.
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
I've never tried to belittle (APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I like your host file system by Karmashock
I find your hosts file admirable by vel-ex-tech
APK is kinda right. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context by chihowa
"you're right about hosts" by drinkypoo
I support APK's stand on the hosts file by Trax3001BBS
No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free by aaaaaaargh!
APK
Lovely. This went from "Google sucks" to "Mozilla sucks" in record time. Yet more evidence of how much Slashdot loves Mozilla, yet never misses a chance to deceptively paint them in the most negative light possible.
Can ublock do 18 things hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets/stop C&C's
3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets/stop C&C's
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets/stop C&C's
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
6.) Protect vs. poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam malicious payloads
9.) Protect vs. phish malicious payloads
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get by dns blocks
12.) Keep off dns request logs
13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
14.) Work on anything webbound multiplatform.
15.) Ez data control
16.) Block ads better than addons more efficiently
17.) Use less memory & resources than hosts do using my program
18.) Does UBlock now use hosts (doesn't work fully, no DNS benefits vs. tracker or dns poisoning)
Well Coren22 by ac?
APK
secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good - by Coren22
My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
NOT a secretary!
I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source - by Coren22 (1625475)
Reputable sources say different:
Safe by 57 antivirus programs https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
EAT YOUR WORDS Coren22 by ac (your bridge bs gave you away & I remember EVERYTHING...)
APK
P.S.=> You say I said not to run DNS! I use it myself & said to NOT use external to network DNS w/ AD http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
See subject: Ash-Fox doubted I had commercially sold code to my name/credit https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...
APK
P.S.=> NOW, that's a "Cool Story" that will make "Ash-Fox" Mr. NDA can't show us anything (lol, bullshit) he has done that way after giving ME guff on it, a "wee bit 'HOT'" (in embarassment) for trolling me (complete with DELUSIONAL 'fake name online' because he IS a "ne'er-do-well" with NO ACCOMPLISHMENT OF ANYKIND to his name/credit in the art & science of computing)... apk
Google is becoming more and more abusive, and more and more incompetent. Want to download the Google Chrome Browser? The download file name does not give the version number.
If you pay attention, that's probably because it doesn't actually have a version number associated with it. When you download chrome, you're just downloading a shim that downloads the latest copy of Chrome from Google's servers and then installs it.
The only way you can download a specific version of Chrome is if you get the MSI based installer, which is most often used for enterprise environments (because it can be deployed via group policy) but otherwise works the same.
An earlier version of the Google Chrome browser installs 3 system services.
That had to have been quite some time ago. Chrome has, for a very LONG time now, installed entirely into user space (unless you use the MSI installer) which is a deliberate design choice meant to accommodate users that don't have admin access to their PC. You can't even download such an older release with the shim that they issue now.
The browser situation is very, very ugly. Firefox is now, basically, owned by Microsoft
Ok now you're just getting stupid. Sorry, I can't fix you.
Google sure hates Linux these days.
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
* Less power/cpu/ram+ IO use vs. local DNS servers + addons w/ less security issues vs. DNS + routers. Less complex vs firewalls (needing layered filtering drivers - hosts don't + firewalls block less used IP addresses, hosts block more used host-domain names) complimenting 'em. Antivirus = reactive. Hosts = FAR more proactive, blocking infection BEFORE you get it. Gets its data from 10 reputable security community sites.
(... & it works - yes, even vs. HTTP PUSH servers!)
APK
P.S. - Hosts get you more speed (hardcodes + adblocks) & faster vs. addons, security (vs. bad sites/dns security issues), reliability (vs. downed/poisoned dns), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) vs. other "so-called -solutions'" w/ what you natively have. Unlike Adblock/UBlock/Ghostery, hosts != blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ
Because sometimes new versions break old arrangements. For example, as I mentioned, somehow the user interface of SeaMonkey composer was damaged, apparently intentionally. I was glad that I had the old versions.
Software companies are taking more and more control. We are often not allowed to have a full program; often we are allowed to have only a program that downloads the full program and installs it.
It surprises me that most people accept what I consider to be the dictatorial behavior of Microsoft, Google, and Adobe.
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
* Less power/cpu/ram+ IO use vs. local DNS servers + addons w/ less security issues vs. DNS + routers. Less complex vs firewalls (needing layered filtering drivers - hosts don't + firewalls block less used IP addresses, hosts block more used host-domain names) complimenting 'em. Antivirus = reactive. Hosts = FAR more proactive, blocking infection BEFORE you get it. Gets its data from 10 reputable security community sites.
(... & it works - yes, even vs. HTTP PUSH servers from the main "pusher" (drug analogy) called ads, Google...)
APK
P.S. - Hosts get you more speed (hardcodes + adblocks) & faster vs. addons, security (vs. bad sites/dns security issues), reliability (vs. downed/poisoned dns), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) vs. other "so-called -solutions'" w/ what you natively have. Unlike Adblock/UBlock/Ghostery, hosts != blockable by ClarityRay/BlockIQ... apk
Thanks for mentioning the MSI version of Chrome. I didn't know it existed. Still no version number or 32-bit/64-bit indication in the file name.
The version number with the 3 system services is: Google Chrome Version 40.0.2214.91 m. The web site says Copyright 2016, but I think that is due to sloppiness we are now seeing everywhere with Google activities. That version is less than 2 years old, apparently.
You said, "Ok now you're just getting stupid. Sorry, I can't fix you." Maybe I can do something for you. No one knows everything about technology. Don't call someone stupid because you disagree. In fact, as I mentioned in my parent comment, Mozilla Foundation gets its money from Microsoft now, through Yahoo. That's what the news stories say.
"Online forums and message boards can be fertile grounds for finding new customers or gaining insights from those you already have" FROM -> http://www.entrepreneur.com/ar...
Some more "interesting tidbits" there are these (which can make you BET that a good chunk of posters here from a trade BUILT IN LIES + 1/2 TRUTHS are indeed, advertisers):
"Don't post marketing messages right away. You could be banned, and your product or service could be maligned on a site that ranks high on search engines".
(LMAO - "yes, yes - be a GOOD sneaky little fuck" in other words... unbelievable! Especially on sites that get a LOT of viewership!)
"Do contact the site admin. Send a private message to the siteâ(TM)s owner or head admin, explaining your product and ask about becoming a paid sponsor."
(LOL! I love that last one... bribery, or what?)
APK
P.S.=> Need more? Ask... apk
Apparently you didn't bother to read my comment, or visit the links I provided.
They have a nasty message that Ubuntu 12.04 is EOL - despite that from Canonical's POV it's still supported for another year.
"with their freedom lost all virtue lose" - Milton
If the browser is secure, OS flaws won't be exposed.
Flaws in the IP or TCP implementation, in other services that the same machine exposes, or in system libraries that the browser uses can still be exposed. For example, computers have been broken into through web fonts that exploit defects in the operating system's font parser. (Google: truetype exploit)
Provided the OS is behind a working firewall
That's a big "provided". How many users of home or small office firewall appliances keep said appliances' system software updated?
You are calling someone "stupid" without actually mentioning your disagreement.
And you are talking about "murder".
See subject: IF "Linux advocacy" is SO solid, see above. They had to pursue smartphones (only reason it's used is it is a ZERO COST OS so it saves on per unit costs of phones - money is the answer to 99/100 questions). On servers, it's STILL a 50/50 split between Linux & Windows, even when Linux = free too.
* Your example blows and you ran from every thing I posted scumbag!
APK
P.S.=> Lastly & again - your little "bridge" deal gave you away too Coren22 & you trolled me by your registered 'luser' name 3x last Friday, so using AC posts shows how "superior' you are with your delusional FAKE NAME ONLINE too since you're now trolling me by AC posts BUT NOT PROVING A THING I POSTED IN RESPONSE WRONG either - deceitful little pigs like you with NO integrity or anything else are wastes of life who try to spread their misery (like you being unable to find a date as a single father allegedly, because you're a little sneak asshole & girls figure it out fast)... apk
Also several significant changes how Chrome operates with web APIs. That broke a lot of stuff that now has to get fixed, thanks Google!
See subject: As far back as 2006 I wrote up a guide I was even paid for @ PC Pitstop for Windows users (the ones that need it most on PC desktops as they're the most attacked due to being most used) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
It's based on the HIGHLY esteemed CIS Tool (which I have also had fixes from me submitted & accepted to it) so it's EASY for folks to do!
* I used to recommend AdBlock until it 'souled-out' to advetisers & became "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" - yes, along w/ hosts too!
(I wonder if YOU have done more/better on that front, let alone creating a program that speeds up & secures users as I have doing more for less? I doubt it from a TROLL like you!)
APK
P.S.=> This post, along with all my others, put the nails into your TROLL coffin - easily... apk
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
See subject & you quoted above: I said to NOT to use external DNS w/ AD http://forums.tweaktown.com/windows/25596-how-secure-windows-2000-xp-server-2003-vista-fully-per-cis-tool-scoring-3.html?s=0ae07d5b5389e06fd6bcfd05bc2d2cc0 (& yes, as far back as 2007 in my security guides I was PAID for no less, unexpectedly - you've done better? No)
Clue: I use DNS, albeit FILTERING external DNS on a non-AD setup here (OpenDNS).
APK
P.S.-> You're clearly delusional - you're own quoted words show how much of a LYING bullshitter you are, lol... apk
1st it's "INCOMPETENT (like you)! You're quoted saying I say to not use DNS w/ AD (bs): I show proof from 2007 I said otherwise (Don't use external free DNS w/ AD like Free OpenDNS - I use since it filters threats which hosts compliment with firewalls too for good layered security but it messes up Exchange & Outlook).
Your other lies = quoted here https://slashdot.org/comments.... & you say a SECRETARY checked my code (Malwarebytes best guy did & he hosts + recommends it & would NOT have unless he saw my code (which I do NOT give away or it can be abused like Chrome's was)).
* You're doing this to yourself!
APK
P.S.=> I never said "I know it all" (I've said QUITE the reverse) - just that what I do works in combination w/ other things in "layered security"/"defense in depth" - so please QUIT WHILE YOU'RE BEHIND!
secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good - by Coren22
My code's verified by Mr. S. Burn of Malwarebytes
"I've seen the code and yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
NOT a secretary!
I don't give it away to be stolen or misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source - by Coren22 (1625475)
57 antiviruses show different https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
MalwareBytes' employee hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
* EAT YOUR WORDS Coren22
APK
P.S.=> See subject - & remember a lesson Google had w/ Chrome above (even gov't.'s not opening all their code & same reason https://slashdot.org/submissio... )