With Carly Fiorina As Running Mate, Cruz's H-1B Stance Now In Question (computerworld.com)
dcblogs quotes a report from Computerworld: In 2013, Sen. Ted Cruz emerged as one of the Senate's top H-1B visa supporters, and argued for a 500% visa cap increase. But during his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, Cruz had a conversion. Cruz's presidential platform proposed a $110,000 minimum wage for visa workers, among other restrictions, as a way of ending their use as low-cost labor. The move marked a complete turnabout on the H-1B issue. Cruz's decision Wednesday to add former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina as his running mate if he wins the nomination, may make his newly found H-1B beliefs a hard sell. At HP, Fiorina was a prominent supporter of the offshore outsourcing model, said Ron Hira, an associate professor of public policy at Howard University. "To pump up profits, she was an early adopter of the practice, which given HP's status as a leading Silicon Valley firm, pushed other firms to adopt offshoring," said Hira. As offshoring gained, Fiorina played a leading role in defending globalization. To make her point, in 2004, Fiorina said: "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore," reported the San Francisco Chronicle.
I think the problem is bringing them here at the same wages they make in India. If they force the corps to pay them a wage equivalent to what an American worker in the same job normally makes then it's not a problem. Using them as cheap labor is racist.
I modded you down because I disagree with you. It's not racism. H-1B takes jobs away from qualified Americans. I hope I was quick enough that nobody sees your post. Please stop posting crap that's wrong. Otherwise I'll keep modding down all of your garbage that I disagree with. I'm posting anonymously so I don't undo your well deserved downmod.
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Because he can't win the nomination.
Whatever his policy positions are is moot.
if it had to do with racism against indians, then these companies wouldn't be racing to hire them in the first place.
He wondered aloud, "Why are we even contemplating running mate issues prior to a Presidential nomination?"
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a bad business person.
Like many other CEOs, she thought short-term without considering the long-term implications of her actions.
She pushed outsourcing to the detriment of American workers
She eroded the previous HP quality
She bought a horrible company in Compaq
She failed to properly integrate Compaq into HP
She failed to leverage a crown jewel in the DEC Alpha, and contributed to its cancellation after the acquisition
She destroyed the value of the overall business of HP
I don't need to say she is anti-American, though she may be. Definitely a business failure though, despite the golden parachute.
Cruz isn't getting the nomination. The guy has about 2% of the Republican vote. Give me a break.
ever believed Cruz's "H1-B visa stance". It's all just propaganda. Before he started running he was advocating for a 500% increase in H1-B visas in 2013.
I wouldn't worry about his "wide stance" on H1-Bs. I wonder why he's sabotaging his campaign so quickly. I mean, really, Fiorina? Are people actually voting for a ticket like that?
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Ted Cruz was already a distant second banana, and has decided to pump up his popularity by inviting as running mate the least popular vagino-American in Silicon Valley. The only possibly worse choice would be John McAfee.
Cruz may need H1-B status to work as POTUS.
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Cruz's recently acquired anti "H1-B stance" is election year politics just like his recently acquired anti TPP stance.
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Well thats odd! Who would fire a guy like you? You sound like a winner.
H1-B is bringing in guest workers to the United States, but keeping the work in house.
Offshoring is simply moving the work to a foreign country.
The article and summary seem to have confused the two.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
On the bright side, maybe Fiorina would try to offshore Congress?
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Cruz strikes me as an opportunist who will engage in policy-based evidence making. It doesn't matter how good or bad the H1-B program is - he will denigrate it or support it based entirely on what will win votes and/or please major campaign contributors and/or result in some concession in some sleazy backroom deal. Cruz will do with H1-B whatever gains him the most political capital, and Carly's position is irrelevant.
Not that Cruz is much different from most of the other contenders, Democrat or Republican.
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Unless he can start winning some states again, I don't see how he can hope to stop Trump. Before last night, maybe a slim chance, now, forget it. Trump has got the nod, which means Hillary Clinton is the next POTUS.
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I think the problem is bringing them here at the same wages they make in India.
H1-B workers already make way more than they do in India. You couldn't even survive in America on typical Indian tech wages, because of the much higher prices here.
Anyway, there is no reason to expect Ted's position on this to change because of Carly. VP candidates typically have zero input on policy.
H1Bs even if implemented "correctly" are bad for the nation. If that person is so exceptional, the company can pay for them to immigrate. You know, like we did for the majority of human history.
Your thesis works if, and only if, there is a single global economy with the same rules for all workers. The whole "but we are global" argument falls flat on it's face because that scenario does not, and will not ever, exist. It's always about higher profits at the expense of the worker, always. If China required unemployment insurance, health insurance, retirement plans, caps on hours a person was allowed to work and/or forced to work, and all of the safety and regulation training companies are required to provide in the US, do you think labor would still be pennies on the dollar in exchange? H1B workers receive huge tax breaks, and allow companies to bypass legal work restrictions. You know, like that one company who literally had slaves escape last year who were here on H1B visas? (One of how many obvious violations, and how many under the table threats.. yeah)
Look, if Politicians and Uber wealthy people really had _your_ interests in mind they would stop lining their own pockets and start lining yours. They don't, you are delusional if you believe they are on your side and looking out for you, the end.
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Fiorina as V-P? Does Cruz think the presidential election is an UNpopularity contest?
Even by Texas standards of insanity, his desperation is hilarious.
Born in Texas, but now I'm an ex-Texan of the no-vote-for-you party and I donated my poll tax to Bernie Sanders.
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I think he chose her because the establishment likes her, she will attract more women and she can go toe to toe with Hillary without the automatic label of sexist. I am surprised Trump didn't ask her first ... maybe he did.
There's more than one issue, and I dare say that when it comes to the issues, H-1B visas are not at the forefront of American politics. Most people outside of the tech industry don't even know what the hell they are. Whatever differences Cruz and Fiorina have regarding H-1B visas really don't matter - it's not a significant part of the platform.
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And Fiorina ran HP, and via mergers, Compaq and DEC into the ground and perpetuated the off shoring nonsense that helped destroy major parts of the tech industry in the US back then.
As much of a nazi demagogue as Trump is, Cruz and his minion are even worse. Sucks that the Dem candidate likely to win that nomination is a corrupt cunt.
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You were just named a vice presidential candidate, Ms Fiorina. So why the long face?
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It's not racist at all. It's protectionist. Other countries do it. The US needs to protect it's citizens also.
WTF is wrong with the Republican Party?
Having followed politics a while, I predict a response similar to the following:
"There certainly have been abuses in the H-1B program. We should apply the lessons of these experiences, review the guest worker laws, and tighten them if necessary such that companies that truly cannot find qualified citizens still have access to guest workers, yet avoid the abuses we've been seeing from companies lacking a genuine need."
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Anyway, there is no reason to expect Ted's position on this to change because of Carly. VP candidates typically have zero input on policy.
Biden - *IAA. Cheney - Halliburton. The last two VPs had strong connections to certain lobbies and those lobbies did well during the tenure of those VPs.
It's *sounds* good to set a "minimum wage", but H-1B abuses are not about money, they're about abusing workers in every other way. Employers have no problem paying a worker for 40 hours work at a fair wage since they can pressure them into working 80 hours.
You do realize that H1-B visas are probably a pretty minor thing in the grand scope? Maybe there might be more important or pressing concerns in presidential hopefuls than how they come down on visas for the tech industry?
Cuz that was the first thing on your mind when you heard this announcement?
And they ca't quit to find better paying jobs. They are de facto indentured servants..
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They could do them wrong and not at all.
Imagine a bill to eliminate H-1Bs by providing free VR to companies so that those same workers could do the same jobs without leaving their home country. Think of the startups (In the world of corporate personhood, these are the children.) that could use this help in getting off the ground. Think of the dividends that could be paid to investors in American companies if CEOs had available this powerful tool. Daughters and Ducats - why move bodies at 560 mph when you could move minds at the speed of light!
It's not racist, it's opportunist. They have a chance to exploit a legal loophole in order to reduce the cost of their workforce, and they have no compunctions, so they do it.
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As if Cruz wasn't a crackpot and a joke to start with, he picks the second-worst running mate imaginable, the worst being Sarah Palin. When I heard about this on NPR I almost ran myself off the road, I was laughing so hard.
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As a foreigner it looks to me as if 2017 will be the year in which all previous US presidents look good.
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And probably could have done a better job with HP.
In the United States I have 18 registered companies under my name and man more companies with other partners
None of those company, and I mean, *NONE*, employs H1B workers
If you want to claim 'racism', try me
I am not your average White
I am not even born in the United States
I am from China, I am an ethnic Chinese
Are you claiming that none of my companies employ even one single worker under the H1B visa scheme I am a racist?
Are you telling me that because all my co-workers inside the United States are American citizens or permanent residents, of all races, I must be a racist?
If I am a racist by doing what I do, then I am fucking proud to be a RACIST !
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So then you should lobby for an equal pay law. this is a European thing. To get it you need real unions and politicians that understand that equality is as important as freedom and fraternalism. However, what I learned form the average US citizen, unions are evil and equality is evil. Under the assumption that H-1B visa applicants work for less then this is classic capitalism. That is what you decided to have.
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Not disagreeing with the blatant abuse of power you're pointing out, but those two organizations did well lobbying before that too.
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tldr: We're not racist, we dislike the stupid corrupt H-1B system
Current H-1B Visa policy is decimating the corporate IT profession. There is an avalanche of large scale conversion from US IT workers to off-shore IT workers happening right now. Older IT workers (read age 40 and up) are not able to replace the jobs they are losing.
The majority of the H-1B visas are being issued to multinational (mainly from India) companies like Infosys, TCS, Wipro, HCL, and Cognizant. They can offer their services for a much lower hourly cost because these H-1B visa holders do not pay federal income tax, unemployment tax, minimum health care, and a variety of other costs mandated for American workers (ironically they do pay Medicare and Social Security). H-1B visa rules require these workers to have a minimum bachelors degree, but educational costs are far higher in the US than they are in India. Many of these workers simply meet the requirement with a degree from a diploma mill. Moreover, the majority of the on-shore IT staff are project managers who send the actual coding work to workers in foreign countries working for many cases for less than what most Americans think is a reasonable minimum wage. Americans simply cannot compete against this dramatically skewed playing field.
From a idealistic free market and free trade standpoint, this is good for America as a whole because consumers get their products at a lower cost. From a practical standpoint it is a disaster for the American worker who supports the federal government through the payment of taxes. The blue collar manufacturing profession has largely left the US and its economy has transitioned to a services based economy. With this new trend of sending services work overseas, the American worker is experiencing negative pressure on wages and suitable job availability.
The benefit to corporations is questionable. While an outsourcing strategy can certainly lower costs dramatically at first, it generally costs an organization much more in the long run. The loss of institutional knowledge causes firms to become inefficient and unable to rapidly adapt to a changing marketplace. Additionally, the outsourcing firms start with low teaser rate contracts and then increase cost on renewal. This is why most companies switch outsourcing firms every few years. This wreaks havoc on a companies ability to compete in the marketplace. There are also serious intellectual property and security implications to having foreign workers leaving the country with intimate knowledge of a companies internal operations.
All this migration to H-1B visa workers is based upon the lie that there is a shortage of STEM workers in the United States. There is no shortage of STEM workers in the US. There is a shortage of certain types of workers with ephemeral skills especially in hotbed tech localities at a wage that employers want to pay. They want low wage IT workers now. Because these companies advise lawmakers, policy is passed to benefit multinational corporations at the expense of American IT workers and the future of America's prosperity.
Another major lie is that an H-1B visa can only be granted if an equally qualified American is not available. The requirement is based upon an honor system that by law the Department of Labor cannot enforce.
This has absolutely nothing to do with racism against anybody including Indians. My niece is married to an Indian man and he's awesome - our whole family loves the guy and he's a fantastic asset to our country. I also like many of the Indians I work with and count many as my friends. There are Indian families that live where we live and they are great neighbors. I personally am a strong believer in immigration. The vast majority of Americans are either immigrants themselves or descended from immigrants within a handful of generations. To oppose immigration of quality people is blatant hypocrisy. The more skilled workers we have working in America, the greater the gross domestic product and tax revenue for
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Why would any of the President's views be "in jeopardy" simply because the chosen VP might disagree with those particular views? The VP has very little power as per The Constitution. Only if an H1B bill was tied 50-50 in the senate, or if she became president would Fiorina's views on that issue be relevant to establishing public policy.
The VP doesn't need to be a political clone of the president. Cripes, in the distant past, the VP could even be from an entirely different political party!
The law already requires that an H-1B be paid more. The problem is that there are ways around that where you don't put them in an "equal" position.
For instance, Acme Widgets decides that instead of paying its own IT workers at $80,000 apiece, it'll just contract out its IT work to a company like Infosys or Tata. That company just happens to employ lots of H-1Bs as its workers for contracts, making $40,000 each, but it tells Acme they'll work for an FTE rate of $50,000, saving Acme $30,000 per worker. No workers were directly replaced, so they get away with it.
Well we will officially have our first imported President, it only makes sense he wants to bring in other imports as well. Perhaps we can import a medical system.
The law in Germany is a little different. Here employees from, let say Poland, will get at least the same amount as other employees performing the same job. There is a union based trade or wage agreement which defines how much money employees get if they work in a certain industry. The wage agreement of the union and the industry association also applies to foreign employees. For example, if I work for IBM an get 50 000 € and you come to Germany and work in a similar company, let say Siemens, you will get the same salary (of course the specific company can pay you more than the wage agreement demands).
It's like most of the people here don't want workers from India and it's somewhat racist.
No, it's like people don't want to be replaced by foreign labor when local labor exists. If the H-1B program was not illegally abused to undercut wages, and instead used for its intended purpose of filling jobs that can't be filled with local talent, we wouldn't have a problem.
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I really think the flame logo is supposed to represent the Holy Spirit - you know, since Cruz was anointed by God to run for Prez. All the righty-tighties just eat that stuff up... But I wonder what the Wilks brothers, his major financial backers, think of the Carly thing. They don't think rightly of a woman being in a position of power.
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I wouldn't put my life as the only obstacle to Carly Fiorina's presidency.
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He's a guy from Massachusetts that wears a boot on his head and advocates for a pony-based economy. He got on the primary ballot in New Hampshire. His campaign slogan was something like "All politicians are vermin, so the president should be Vermin Supreme."
Cruz is not anything like McCain, your claim is completely false and lacks any semblance of truth. If you are repeating because of ignorance you are just as morally corrupt as a person repeating this to manipulate.
McCain was born on a US Military base, which is sovereign US territory and established in the definition of "Natural born". Cruz was born in a Canadian Hospital in CANADA, he was not born on US territory. His claim to being "natural born" is that his parents were citizens, which goes against the definition of "Natural born". In fact Cruz gave up his dual citizenship not very long before running for President.
Here is a very in depth analysis of Cruz, including the citizenship argument. Be careful, there are actually facts in this video.
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PLEASE look at your organization chart at your tech company I bet you notice quickly that Indian managers and executives have tricked HR and managed to hire only other people from India. At worst I suspect they are racist and believe that blacks, latinos, chinese and caucasian people are inferior. At best they are just hiring their friends, be an interesting study to find out what is going on. However, it is already too late the young people of this country are screwed. If you want your child to have a future refuse to train anyone from India because if they get promoted they will mostly likely never hire you or your kind. There are some good people from India that are decent technically and fair, but they are extremely rare, the bulk of H1B visa's will politically stab you in the back for a dollar, a decent bloke from India told me this.
Did Cruz win the primary, or something? It's a little presumptuous, otherwise. Oh, sure, he's picking a potential VP to increase his nominability during the contested election, but why would he pick a boat-anchor like Carly "right-shoring" Fiorina? She's as much as, if not more than, a weasel as he is.
He doesn't need to, for two reasons:
1) Deciding on a prospective running mate gives a clearer idea of "what you'd get" by supporting his candidacy,
2) He's not running to win, he's running to draw.
He can't win the nomination outright, so at this point it's all about keeping Trump from getting over the top. Once the convention begins and the first ballot concludes, all bets are off.
If Trump doesn't get it on the first ballot, it'll probably be a dark horse that comes away with the nomination. (That is, not Cruz or Trump.)
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You're not supposed to mod people down for disagreeing. You're supposed to mod people down for being factually wrong or trolling.
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Ted and the GOP inner circle where he comes from must be reeling in desperation to tap Carly. Fiorina is kind of evil, she successfully sank two great tech companies but need help from "the Don" Capella to kill a third. She took Lucent, a leader in high end network switching and reduced them to selling win-modems. She took HP, undisputed in printing, and with a vibrant UNIX community and reduced them to a 2nd rate Windows PC maker and forced them to share the printer market with just about everyone. All of that being said I'd still vote for her over Hillary. Not because she is on the GOP ticket but her evil is in no way close to Hillary's. On the scale of things Fiorina is Dante, Hillary is Satan.
I didn't think there was a way to make me LESS likely to vote for Cruz, but they definitely found a way!
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Sure, most are bad... but republicans are piece of sh... BAD. I do not like Obama or Clinton, but W, Cruz or Trump are a lot worse.
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