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Doctor Ready to Perform First Human Head Transplant (newsweek.com)

Ross Kenneth Urken, reporting for Newsweek (edited and condensed): Italian neurosurgeon Sergio Canavero had his Dr. Strange moment when he announced he'd be able to do a human head transplant in a two-part procedure he dubs HEAVEN (paywalled, this alternate link could help) (head anastomosis venture) and Gemini (the subsequent spinal cord fusion). [...] Canavero has a plan: It's a 36-hour, $20 million procedure involving at least 150 people, including doctors, nurses, technicians, psychologists and virtual reality engineers. In a specially equipped hospital suite, two surgical teams will work simultaneously -- one focused on Valery Spiridonov (patient) and the other on the donor's body, selected from a brain-dead patient and matched with the Spiridonov for height, build and immunotype. Both patients -- anesthetized and outfitted with breathing tubes -- will have their heads locked using metal pins and clamps, and electrodes will be attached to their bodies to monitor brain and heart activity. Next, Spiridonov's head will be nearly frozen, ultimately reaching 12 to 15 degrees Celsius, which will make him temporarily brain-dead.Shouldn't it be called a body transplant? Since a person is often defined by the brain. You can read the complete procedure here.

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  1. Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Funny

    But at $20 million dollars, it's definitely something you don't want to lose your head over. Too damn expensive!

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    1. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I am more curious on the long term effects vs. the procedure.

      Our health and state of being is beyond just our brain. How we feel and experience the world is based on what our body translates as well. If you are feeling nervous stomach medicine can help that. Because when we feel nervous we send signals to our body and the sensation feedbacks to itself.

      So getting a new body how much would that change the man?

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    2. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If it works, we are about to find out.

    3. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 2

      I would say, before asking this question, let them fail a couple times... The first mechanical hearts had the patients survive only for a few hours. And the heart's connections are "pretty simple", compared to the head connections. We cannot even have patients recover from spinal cord injuries right now gawddammit! Let alone a head transplant, with the spinal cord "fusion" they're talking about, with all the vascular system, the respiratory / digestive parts, musculo-skeletal links...

      I'll believe when I see the meatbag alive. And with a complete video of the procedure, to make sure it's not a conspiracy or something.

    4. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

      20M us price. Real price 200K

    5. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't this be better referred to as a body transplant? The recipient being the sentient?

    6. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, now you know where the doctor's motivation comes from.

    7. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The long term effects should be obvious - even if it succeeds you're basically a head on a stick. You'll be lucky if doctors can join nerve endings so you can regulate your own circulation and breathing let along talk or move your limbs. And chances are your new body will decide to reject its head so you can look forward to that too.

    8. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by macs4all · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But at $20 million dollars, it's definitely something you don't want to lose your head over. Too damn expensive!

      Ba-dum-BUMP!

      However, since the brain is off-limits to the immune system (which would REALLY love to attack and kill brain cells!), wouldn't it be better to do a BRAIN transplant, rather than messing with all the fleshy/muscle-y parts that are NOT off-limits to "rejection"?

    9. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      They've been able to sever and reconnect spinal cords for a while now. The reason it's not all that easy with accident victims is the damage caused by the initial trauma. Look at that guy with the penis transplant - worked just fine, bhis girlfriend is pregnant

      And then we have stupidity like this bogus story

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    10. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Yeah. "you" are the head. It makes zero sense to talk about transplanting a head.

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    11. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah. "you" are the head. It makes zero sense to talk about transplanting a head.

      Unless you're talking about a penis transplant (an addadicktomy), in which case it makes perfect sense :-)

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    12. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Maritz · · Score: 1

      lol quite so, guess I forgot about that.

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    13. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by shaitand · · Score: 0

      Not necessarily. The brain is not just the lump of neurons in the head, the brain includes all the neurons throughout the body.

    14. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. Let's not get a head of ourselves. ;)

    15. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've changed the head twice and the handle thrice but it's the same damn ax!

    16. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      And those important organs that are outside the blood-brain barrier, but are hugely important, like the eyeballs, the tongue, etc? And look at it this way - you get to see the same face after, rather than looking at a dead man walking.

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    17. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      If you upgrade the CPU is it still the same computer?

    18. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Funny

      "And then we have stupidity like this bogus story [now8news.com]"

      I hope that when this guy starts dating agin, he understands that neigh means neigh.

    19. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I guess an operation where the patient's brain is removed, head is cut off, a new head put on, and finally their brain implanted in the new head (attached to their old body) would be a head transplant. Part of me wonders if that would be likely more easier than this operation is likely to be?

      (Here's hoping it's successful, for all concerned.)

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    20. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you use a dirty razor blade to sever the spinal cord rather than the blade that costs $200k that TFA says they will use?

    21. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you upgrade the CPU is it still the same computer?

      Not according to Microsoft.

    22. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Well, I figure that either way, you have to basically re-attach the spine to the brain, do you not? As far as I'm aware, we still can't succesfully do that. Maybe he's going to be happy enough to just plumb the blood vessels in and leave the guy paralysed.

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    23. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by RuffMasterD · · Score: 1

      I am sure he will take it in his stride.

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    24. Re: Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dont worry. That is why you have to sign a wavier that the hospital is not responsible for complications due to gross negligence.

    25. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by OakDragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      They were going to do a body transplant, but turned out the head is easier to pick up and move around.

    26. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by macs4all · · Score: 1

      And those important organs that are outside the blood-brain barrier, but are hugely important, like the eyeballs, the tongue, etc? And look at it this way - you get to see the same face after, rather than looking at a dead man walking.

      Kind of like that horrible John Revolta movie, Face/Off?

      Gotta admit, that WOULD be mondo-creepy to NOT see the same face in the mirror that your brain EXPECTED to see!!! I think that would foster a whole new section of the DSM-V, LOL!

    27. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Zak3056 · · Score: 1

      Unless you're talking about a penis transplant (an addadicktomy), in which case it makes perfect sense :-)

      Given that many (most?) men often think with their penises, I'm still voting for "body transplant." :)

      BTW, kudos on having the most commented journal post I've ever seen.

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    28. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      They are going to screw so much up in the spinal cord (and vagus nerve) fusions that we won't be answering the more subtle questions of whether or not the donor body "redefines" the brain's personality.

      Simple body transformations (breast implants?) already transform personality and sense of self... of course a whole different body would have a bigger effect.

    29. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      There are different definitions of success - impregnation can be done with no penis at all, so that one data point doesn't really prove much.

    30. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by marciot · · Score: 5, Funny

      It costs an arm and a leg to get a head in this world.

    31. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by friesofdoom · · Score: 1

      1. The procedure was in December last year.
      2. It is April now.
      3. The women is 4 months pregnant.

      So this means that either the stitches were barely out, or the guy should start asking his girl some serious questions. Even if it was him from my experience with surgery you don't get proper sensations in the affected area for months/years after surgery... And the wounds would barely have had time to heal if she is already 4 months in...

      Am I the only one who is wondering wtf is going on?

    32. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      The primary long term effect is death. It is also the primary short term effect.

    33. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      If you keep the CPU and motherboard but add more ram and a better video card and a new case?

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    34. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by gigne · · Score: 1

      someone give this poor bastard a funny mod.
      it's head and shoulders above the rest (booo)

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    35. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I doubt it'll be hard for him to find someone who's hot to trot.

    36. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Qzukk · · Score: 2

      if you had a way to support the brain and eyes, you could separate the skull from the spine, then lift the skull off from the front, swap them, and then reattach the skull to the spine (and the throat and the arteries and so on). You'd have to split open the back of the skull and neck (and remove the back of the eye sockets) so it just slips off/on over the brain and brainstem and spinal column.

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    37. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am more curious on the long term effects vs. the procedure.

      The last time this came up, I actually read RTFA and did some googling. It turns out this was tried on monkeys a few decades ago. All the monkeys died within 24-48 hours after the operation. In no case were any of the monkeys able to move their bodies (i.e., their brains were not connected to the spinal cord of the "transplanted" body). So it would appear that the "long term effects" are pretty grim with certain death following on shortly thereafter. I also recall that this research was discontinued after the initial experiment because of ethical concerns; it seems that the experiments were just too ghastly for any reputable lab to allow them to continue.

    38. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I am more curious on the long term effects"

      You mean like inheriting the murderous tendencies of your psychopath body donor?

    39. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      "Long term effects" in this case are probably going to consist of a few seconds of life, measurable on the brain scan, followed by death.

      New body nerves will change things, but probably not that much, because those are tight self-regulating feedback loops. Very similar to electronic feedback loops. Changing gut bacteria might be a bigger subjective change, and doesn't require changing the rest of the body.

    40. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by kilodelta · · Score: 1

      Well there has been an awful lot of experimentation with rats of all things and severing their spines and then putting on this drug that causes the cut ends to fuse back together without scar tissue. That could translate to working on human beings too.

    41. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

      Probably because they forgot the ice cream scope...

    42. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's a dumb, trolling bitch, and I say that as a transsexual (HRT, pre-op). Conservatives are raining shit down on us, and she's busy throwing it at the guys trying to help, because she has an idiotic disagreement about how transgender people should be treated. Fortunately, no one will listen to her.

    43. Re: Yep, it's a body transplant by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      In the old days you could buy an OEM copy of Windows paired with a hard drive mounting bracket.

    44. Re: Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No more jokes...quit while you're ahead.

    45. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by geoskd · · Score: 1

      It costs an arm and a leg to get a head in this world.

      I wonder how much it is for just a leg up?

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    46. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Altrag · · Score: 2

      Its not quite the same question though. Transforming your "sense of self" is a purely psychological effect.

      The head (/body?) transplant on the other hand is actually replacing the entire signalling mechanism and there's huge open questions about whether two different people process signals from their nerves in exactly the same way and things like that. Same with differing body chemistries and so on.

      It could work out fine (well "fine".. I suspect the patient won't live more than a few hours at best given how new/experimental the procedure is) or it could work out like sticking an AMD chip on an Intel motherboard -- less than ideal.

      They've of course done everything in their power to match the donor body to the patient body as best they possibly can in order to minimize the chance of weirdnesses but at the end of the day, nobody really knows for sure how the patient's brain will interpret a different body's signalling and chemistry beyond the very basics like matching blood types, assuming the he survives the operation at all.

      Even something as simple as a scar.. suddenly you wake up and a small area of skin no longer moves the way you expect. How long will it take you to adjust to that? Ever got strong glue stuck to your skin? Remember how annoying it is and how much relief you feel when you finally peel it off? Now what if you can't, ever?

      I mean that's a super super minor example (and he'd probably get used to it in a few days to be sure) but its suggestive of the kind of issues this guy will potentially be facing. You can take it to the next level with things like recognizing when you need to take a dump -- he could be anywhere from totally constipated to completely incontinent if his new body doesn't send the "my bowels are full better find some porcelain soon" signal the same way his old body did. And take it to another level again when you start considering things like immune response signalling that are life-threatening rather than just annoying or embarrassing.

      If nothing else, I'm sure it will provide a fairly significant number of papers on the operation and (hopefully) post-operative psychology. The patient is definitely leaving an amazing scientific legacy for the rest of us, no matter what ends up happening to him personally.

    47. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this up, please.

    48. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      And this is what I mean by "screwing up the fusion of major nerves". Lower spinal damage _in the same body_ refused leaves people with years of therapy to regain basic function - whole body swap, if the brain isn't simply overwhelmed and gives up, I would suspect it to take over a decade to regain basic control - and what do we do for digestive function in the meantime?

    49. Re: Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Torgos executive powder?

    50. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      I guess you missed the memo - the ones doing the worst attacks are gay men. People are now finally saying something about it because they see others saying something about it.

      When I first posted this sort of stuff on Failbook, I was expecting to be totally crapped on. Didn't happen. So many other transsexuals came out of the woodwork to express agreement that I was both surprised and gratified. I also don't see much in the way of controversy for posting it here, again unexpected. So the people who count the most because they have skin in the game ARE listening.

      Instead of just calling me names, why not get an account and post your arguments as to why I'm wrong? Instead of just name calling.

      Conservatives can rain as much sh*t on us as they want with these bathroom bills - it won't stand up in court, and that will establish the precedents we need. Protests won't establish precedents. Petitions won't establish precedents. Court judgments will. Or do you not have faith that the courts will rule in our favor, on laws that are clearly discriminatory and unenforceable (even the police are saying they won't enforce it).

      The ones pushing the "OMG PANIC!!!" button are the LGBT. They are ignoring the facts, so that they can get the attention they crave. Attention == power and money. Do you really believe that these bills will stand? Even the people pushing them know they won't. They're just using this to distract from the attacks on Planned Parenthood and abortion - and we're stupid enough to not see that's the bigger prize.

      The best way to get other women as allies is to stand up for abortion rights. That affects far more people than unenforceable toilet laws ever will.

      We need to be more outward-looking than the LGBT wants us to be. We claim we're women - so why are we being a bunch of easily-manipulated navel-gazing scared whiners so preoccupied with our own concerns that we fail to use the opportunities to voice solidarity with women's rights to control their own bodies?

      Is it because we can't get pregnant? That's pretty selfish.

      Now, you said I had an idiotic argument as to how transgender people should be treated. Keeping cross-dressers out of the bathrooms is not idiotic. They! Don't! Belong! There! They change their identity as quickly as they change their clothes. Easy for them, because they don't really identify as the opposite sex to their natal anatomy. It's all about thrills.

      Take the time to explain the difference between transsexuals and the meaningless alphabet soup that the word "transgender" now represents, and women have much less of a problem with us using the same bathroom. Try it and you'll see. Others have, and are reporting positive results. Of course, you are free to disregard them because, like me, they too are fed up with the blow-back we've gotten thanks to this whole "everyone can identify as transgender for any reason and it means whatever I want it to mean" bull sh*t, so they must be biased :-).

      We're all waiting for your words of wisdom as to why I'm so wrong.

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    51. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      The new penis owner enjoyed it. Repeatedly. That's a pretty good indicator that the nerves are connected :-)

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    52. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      I'm sure you can find head for less than a c-note if you look around. Think of what you could do with $20 million? It would probably kill you - but you'll die with a smile on your face.

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    53. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      He was jerking off several times a day in the hospital a week after surgery (he hadn't had a penis for more than 2 years, so it's understandable since he still had his testes). Probably did it in the hospital bed with her. This way if it came off when he got off, there'd be help available, but it's obvious that wasn't the case.

      Doctors are encouraging patients to walk around the same day after different types of surgeries that would have been up to a week in the hospital.

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    54. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      In that area, whatever works for the involved parties is good enough for them.

      Not sure I'd trade my current status with him, though.

    55. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know "-tomy" means cut, right?

    56. Re: Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonsense. No version of Windows ever has a license that don't allow cpu upgrades. If you changed the whole motherboard activation might fail but you could easily call them for reset key (I did this myself).

    57. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I aint sure if it really is an upgrade or downgrade.

    58. Re: Yep, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was a Twilight Zone episode, the grown child would have nightmares about the original penis owner's horrific death (which freed up the penis for donation), and would eventually cause the new owner to die in exactly the same way.

    59. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You know "-tomy" means cut, right?

      I see the lobotomy removed your sense of humor.

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    60. Re: Yep, it's a body transplant by MTBaldwin · · Score: 1

      What i thought it was may 1st not April 1st....lol

    61. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by someoneOtherThanMe · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the old axe joke... so now we can live forever, we will only need a body transplant every 60 years and a head transplant every 71 years. Or actually, we can live 4260 years.

    62. Re:Yep, it's a body transplant by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      Your description of the deuterostome nervous system is inaccurate. The central nervous system (composed of brain, optic nerves and retinas, spinal cord and ... I think that's it) is developmentally distinct from the peripheral nervous system (everything else - motor and sensory nerves). They form from different layers of tissue in the embryo. Yes, the CNS is significantly larger than just the brain, but it's not the entire nervous system.

      Whether that distinction is actually useful in trying to get the two systems to bind from one "CNS donor" and one "periphery donor", is another question.

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  2. Body Transplant! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody wants a head transplant.

    1. Re:Body Transplant! by sinij · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nobody wants a head transplant.

      What a brain-dead idea to agree to a head transplant.

    2. Re:Body Transplant! by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

      If I was offered a head transplant I'd immediately perform a doctor transplant.

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    3. Re:Body Transplant! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      Finally, a way to get ahead!

    4. Re:Body Transplant! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      If I was offered a head transplant I'd immediately perform a doctor transplant.

      What if your body is just dying for one? Someone else's body might then look better than being dead.

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    5. Re:Body Transplant! by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

      If I was offered a head transplant I'd immediately perform a doctor transplant.

      What if your body is just dying for one? Someone else's body might then look better than being dead.

      I'd want to see being dead first. Probably go to a being dead showroom, browse a being dead catalog.
      There are benefits. I've heard there are things to do in Denver when you're dead.

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    6. Re:Body Transplant! by invid · · Score: 1

      They tell the dumb person with the healthy body he's getting a head transplant, and tell the smart person with the sick body he's getting a body transplant.

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    7. Re:Body Transplant! by Incadenza · · Score: 1

      There are benefits.

      Ne pas plus mourir.

    8. Re:Body Transplant! by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      If they figure out how to tell him things, they're going to have a hard time getting consent; or explaining what they mean by "brain-dead."

    9. Re:Body Transplant! by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      And it's extremely tax-efficient.

    10. Re:Body Transplant! by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      I've heard there are things to do in Denver when you're dead.

      That's nothing. In Chicago, you can even vote!

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  3. Paywall by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please stop posting paywalled articles.

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    1. Re:Paywall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, they should be ones with ads that I'll block. Gimme gimme gimme! free free free!

    2. Re:Paywall by Nemosoft+Unv. · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Especially teaser-sites that shows the heading but the moment you scroll down it pops up a paywall and starts playing music.

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    3. Re:Paywall by msmash · · Score: 5, Informative

      Thanks for pointing that out. It's a feature article, so you wouldn't find this news elsewhere. I have updated the story to add a Google cache link of the story, check if that helps.

    4. Re:Paywall by Z80a · · Score: 1

      *the ones with trojan droppers

    5. Re:Paywall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they'll just be the ones I ignore instead.

    6. Re:Paywall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey hey, we don't like your kind here. Capitalists, I think they're called.

    7. Re:Paywall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they should be ones with ads that I'll block. Gimme gimme gimme! free free free!

      "Gimme gimme gimme! money money money!"

      ...?

    8. Re:Paywall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THIS.

      Most people don't want to waste their money on MSM paywalled propaganda sites.

  4. FINALLY by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I'll be able to use the Head of Vecna!
    It has been a long, oft-tragic story.

    http://www.blindpanic.com/humo...

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  5. Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yep body transplant.

    But can someone point to where he has done successful animal trials? Or even sliced and diced the same animal in order to reattach the spinal cord? Or Froze and un-froze an animal head?

    Until the parts are tested, colour me skeptical

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    1. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      Details the rich will be paying to be sorted out later

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    2. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are several examples that resulted in living animals that were paralyzed.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

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    3. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by SB5407 · · Score: 5, Informative

      AND, it said right there in the Newsweek article that Dr. Robert J. White did the first (mostly?) successful head transplant on a monkey in 1970. Lots of precedent for this, surprisingly.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    4. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A collaborator on this project apparently has. From the article:
      "Canavero’s collaborator, Xiaoping Ren of Harbin Medical University in China, recently completed a monkey head transplant. And Canavero’s colleague, C-Yoon Kim of the Konkuk University School of Medicine in South Korea published a study in the journal Spinal Cord showing how his team re-established motor movements in mice whose neck spinal cords had been severed and re-fused."

    5. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      There are several examples that resulted in living animals that were paralyzed.

      But there seems to be a dearth of animals happily frolicking in the fields after such experiments. Seeing that happen is what I'd call a success, an the very minimum I'd like to see before slapping down my cash and saying "I want to buy a new body"

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    6. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that the head is part of the body...

    7. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason for that is they haven't even attempted the spinal cord fusion in the animals yet. I would say that step should be a prerequisite before allowing human trials.

    8. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      This is a crazy thing to do, but one point in the recipient's defense : if he's looking at dying in the next few months or years, even a quadriplegic (but otherwise healthy enough) body might be a preferable alternative.

    9. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saw a documentary by presumably this same dr at least 10 years ago. He did one successfully on a paralyzed chimp. Apparently, the issue for quadriplegics is even though they will still be paralyzed, a donors body should be inherently healthier than there own which has presumably been paralyzed longer and has thus deteriorated due to immobility, and they will notice it because the head shares blood supply, etc.

      Thought the guy seemed like pretty much of an egomaniacal nutcase, though he did have some patients who were interested in the procedure. Thought the proof of concept on the recussitated chimp was one of the more distasteful cases of vivisection I had seen.

    10. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by glwtta · · Score: 2

      The monkey was paralyzed, and died 9 days later - that is a pretty low bar for "successful".

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    11. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

      It was 1970, he's lucky the damn thing didn't explode on the table during surgery.

    12. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AND, it said right there in the Newsweek article that Dr. Robert J. White did the first (mostly?) successful head transplant on a monkey in 1970. Lots of precedent for this, surprisingly.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Define what you mean by successful. The wikipedia article you reference says that the monkey was paralyzed from the neck down after the surgery (i.e., the brain was not attached to the spinal cord during the surgery) and died after nine days. In that same wikipedia article, Dr. Jerry Silver, an expert in regrowing severed nerves, called White's experiments on monkeys, "fairly barbaric." Would you volunteer for this surgery?

    13. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      Yep body transplant.

      But can someone point to where he has done successful animal trials? Or even sliced and diced the same animal in order to reattach the spinal cord? Or Froze and un-froze an animal head?

      Until the parts are tested, colour me skeptical

      I think you're right. I'm not sure there are any case where a spinal cord has been re-attached and become functional again. However, the head-swapping has been done in monkeys in the past. So that part at least is feasible. Then the patient will have a donor body acting as a life-support for the head. I find that somewhat disturbing, I must say.

    14. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The monkey was paralyzed, and died 9 days later - that is a pretty low bar for "successful".

      That is actually a hugely successful early transplant. How long did early heart transplant recipients live? Measured in seconds!

    15. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      If I had $20m and a day to live, 9 more days might be a lot!

      If you can still "slap down cash," you don't need this operation. That much is clear.

    16. Re:Dammit Jim, it's a body transplant by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      This is a crazy thing to do, but one point in the recipient's defense : if he's looking at dying in the next few months or years, even a quadriplegic (but otherwise healthy enough) body might be a preferable alternative.

      I'd rather be a spider than a snail, but I'd rather be a snail than some dirt.

  6. Immortal at last by coastwalker · · Score: 1

    Just pop your head on a braindead clone.

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    1. Re:Immortal at last by sinij · · Score: 1

      Even if this body transplant surgery works perfectly, you are not immune from disease like Alzheimers and Parkinsons.

    2. Re:Immortal at last by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Just pop your head on a braindead clone.

      Do I get to choose from who's body the clone is?

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    3. Re:Immortal at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even if this body transplant surgery works perfectly, you are not immune from disease like Alzheimers and Parkinsons.

      Oh really?

    4. Re:Immortal at last by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that some studies suggest that Parkinson's disease might spread to the brain from the gut via the vagus nerve, so this very well might make the person immune, simply by virtue of that nerve not working.

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  7. The beginning of something wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hm?

  8. Supervillians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you want supervillains? Because this is how you get supervillains.

    (It's left as an exercise for the reader to determine if the villain is the transplanter or the transplantee.)

    1. Re:Supervillians by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If it's anything like in that Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode, or Donald Trump, it's only the hair transplant that's evil.

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    2. Re:Supervillians by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      I'd hate to be walking around with someone else's ugly head on my body.

    3. Re:Supervillians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As well as looking through Gary Gilmore's eyes someone could be picking Gary Gilmore's nose or cutting Gary Gilmore's toenails too.

  9. Body transplant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean, body transplant.

  10. Re:Is the donor dead? by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Body donor is brain-dead.

    Cells in the body begin to decay as soon as blood flow ceases, so that's a problem.

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  11. Ready by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Body is Ready.

  12. That's a subjective statement, by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

    Since when is 12-15 degrees Celsius "Nearly Frozen"?

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    1. Re:That's a subjective statement, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it is internal body temperature.

    2. Re:That's a subjective statement, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Since when is 12-15 degrees Celsius "Nearly Frozen"?
      Let it go, let it go
      Can’t hold it back anymore
      Let it go, let it go
      Turn my back and slam the door

      The snow blows white on the mountain tonight
      Not a footprint to be seen
      A kingdom of isolation and it looks like I’m the queen
      The wind is howling like the swirling storm inside
      Couldn’t keep it in
      Heaven knows I try

      Don’t let them in, don’t let them see
      Be the good girl you always had to be
      Conceal, don’t feel, don’t let them know
      Well now they know

    3. Re:That's a subjective statement, by shaitand · · Score: 1

      The answer to the question in your body is in the head of your subject.

    4. Re:That's a subjective statement, by dmbasso · · Score: 1

      The article's author lives in the Sahara, 30*C is already too cold!

      (it should be a degree glyph instead of an asterisk, but /. thinks unicode is bad)

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    5. Re:That's a subjective statement, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you're trolling.

    6. Re:That's a subjective statement, by Vegan+Cyclist · · Score: 1

      haha - I was going to post the same thing. Ice cubes wouldn't last at that temp, and a glass of water that temp wouldn't be particularly 'cold', nor is that temp outside really 'cold' either. (Cool, yes, but zero risk of hypothermia!) 2-4 deg C might be 'nearly frozen'. 15 C is an average day in Victoria, BC. ;)

    7. Re:That's a subjective statement, by wkwilley2 · · Score: 2

      This sounds like the beginning of the next Saw movie.

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  13. Expensive way to kill a man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could save a lot of money by shooting the intended body-transplant recipient instead, but maybe we'll learn something from this bizarre experiment.

    1. Re:Expensive way to kill a man. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Could you at least say this with a German accident? It's not creepy enough the way you put it.

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    2. Re:Expensive way to kill a man. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Well being the first Heart Transplant was 50 years ago. A hundred years ago such a procedure would be considered extremely unethical, treatments would be finding ways to keep the bad heart working.

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    3. Re:Expensive way to kill a man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "a German accident?"

      Like the Hindenburg? "OH THE HUMANITY!!" How's that? German and accidenty enough for you?

    4. Re:Expensive way to kill a man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This one might be American. He wants us to shoot the patient. Because it will save money.

    5. Re: Expensive way to kill a man. by tigersha · · Score: 1

      Jus remember to aim for ze head, not ze heart

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    6. Re:Expensive way to kill a man. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      He can't be American; here it is more expensive to execute somebody than to imprison them for life. If you want to save money, just "reform" their health insurance to include some Tough Love measures! That's the American way. Our health care sucks, but some patients do get passable hospice care, if tough love fails in a detectable way early enough.

    7. Re:Expensive way to kill a man. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Be honest, a German talking English sounds like an accident.

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  14. Creeeeeeepy by nycsubway · · Score: 1

    So many things could go wrong. The spinal cord is the most complex bus in the body. Connecting the correct nerve on both ends seems almost impossible. Will his brain adapt to any incorrectly placed nerves?

    1. Re:Creeeeeeepy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So many things could go wrong. The spinal cord is the most complex bus in the body. Connecting the correct nerve on both ends seems almost impossible. Will his brain adapt to any incorrectly placed nerves?

      If the spinal cord could be proven to heal, then yes.

      This procedure is obviously a fraud, otherwise you would not have any people paralyzed due to back injuries. We don't have a way to reconnect a spinal cord, and don't have a reliable way of repairing a partially damaged spinal cord. There have been a few promising lab cases in mice where total severing of the spinal cord resulted in partial healing with stem cells, but reconnecting large nerve bundles is not something we have mastered in the medical field.

    2. Re:Creeeeeeepy by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      The optic nerve does a hell of a lot of pre-processing, with a LOT of data. Even with the pre-processing, the part of the brain that processes vision is huge.

      And then there's the corpus callosum. While sthe spinal cord measures between 1 and 1.5 cm thick, it's readily apparent in brain cross-sections that the corpus callosum is much thicker.

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    3. Re:Creeeeeeepy by Kierthos · · Score: 1

      Yes, because all spinal trauma occurs from a blade whose width is measured in angstroms.

      Yes, the procedure could fail. In fact, it most likely will. But what they're planning to do to the spinal cords of the patient and the donor body is just a wee bit different in terms of damage than being in a car accident or being whacked across the spine repeatedly with a baseball bat.

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    4. Re:Creeeeeeepy by prelelat · · Score: 1

      Even with a non functioning spine it could increase the life span of an individual if they wish, by keeping the body going. Muscle degenerating diseases as far as I know(I'm not a doctor) typically kill you. This could extend peoples lives even without an intact spinal chord. It would be a huge breakthrough on a lot of levels even if not fully successful.

      That is to say it works at all. I'm also skeptical of it working, at least in the first attempt. I'm just saying the spinal thing might not detract everyone from perusing it if it did.

    5. Re:Creeeeeeepy by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      So many things could go wrong. The spinal cord is the most complex bus in the body. Connecting the correct nerve on both ends seems almost impossible. Will his brain adapt to any incorrectly placed nerves?

      Supposedly they actually tried this surgery a few years ago but screwed up the nerve connections so that whenever the patient tried to have a bowel movement his mouth would open. Fortunately last I heard he went on to have a very successful career as a politician.

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    6. Re:Creeeeeeepy by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Allow me to paraphrase your analysis.

      Nothing is perfect, therefore nothing is.

      It fails. No, nerve injuries do not always heal; yes, they sometimes heal. Yes, sometimes doctors can cut and re-attach nerves and improve function. No, they cannot always do that.

      See how easy that was? Some != All, Mastered != Middling. Is a middling life alive? Yes, yes it is.

  15. Exactly by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    How do you spend 20 million on this? I'm skeptical. For 20 million I'd expect to get a head upgrade to go with the body upgrade.

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    1. Re:Exactly by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The article says it requires 150 people for 36-hours. Suppose these highly-paid medical professionals cost $100/hr. So $100/hr x 150 people x 36 hours = $540,000 just in labor. Add the machinery, the cost of the hospital rooms, the months to years of recovery, the training, medications - $20M seems like a bargain.

      Also: From the standpoint of the body, it is a head upgrade! :-)

    2. Re:Exactly by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      150 people? How do 150 people even work on one person. You can't even get them all in the same room. But if you are liberally counting then getting your appendix out probably involves 150 people when you count the pharmacy staff, the guy that keeps the computer network running, and the people who sterilize the operating room...

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    3. Re:Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There'll be two teams working in separate rooms on the donor and recipient. They're specialists so will all be doing a different part of the operation. And since it's over 36 hours I'd expect there are multiple shifts of doctors, there is no way someone is going be able to work through the entire 36 hours. It doesn't seem an unreasonable number to me - when my wife delivered our twins by caesarian there were somewhere between 20 and 30 people in the room, and that was for a much simpler operation.

    4. Re:Exactly by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      150 people? How do 150 people even work on one person. You can't even get them all in the same room. But if you are liberally counting then getting your appendix out probably involves 150 people when you count the pharmacy staff, the guy that keeps the computer network running, and the people who sterilize the operating room...

      This number is counting in the mob "no show" contracts.

    5. Re:Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doctors have a slightly different system: Doctor from a different health plan enters the room, looks at the chart, and then bills you for 1 hour of consulting. I shit you not. Look at your next hospital bill.

    6. Re:Exactly by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      They call it drive by doctoring

    7. Re:Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of it is probably analysis, do ultra high resolution scans of the brain stem, arteries, capillaries, etc and dice those scans up into 100 sections and hand them off to 100 scan technicians. Each technician assesses their individual section and gives a "go/no go". You've probably also got teams of people in various parts of the hospital calibrating equipment, mixing special medications, etc. Think of it like mission control, only 3-7 people are going up, but there are thousands of technicians prepping equipment, analyzing telemetry, checking weather reports, etc.

    8. Re:Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      150 people? How do 150 people even work on one person. You can't even get them all in the same room. But if you are liberally counting then getting your appendix out probably involves 150 people when you count the pharmacy staff, the guy that keeps the computer network running, and the people who sterilize the operating room...

      I suspect that the administration to get the go ahead on this procedure have involved a full time job in a year or so.
      What do you think the insurance for something like this costs?

    9. Re:Exactly by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Chest x-ray I paid the hospital for the x-ray, which included the nurse who walked me to the room and positioned me on the equipment, then I paid separately for the lab worker who just presses the button when the nurse says to, and then I paid for one doctor to examine the x-ray, and then a smaller amount for a different doctor to review it the next day to check for obvious mistakes.

      What pisses me off isn't paying 4 people for what was provided as an integrated service. It's getting the bills separately at different times. If they would just send me "a hospital bill" where those were 4 different lines, it would be a lot easier to know how much it cost, and to know when I had finished paying it.

    10. Re:Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, insurance pays YOU!

    11. Re:Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet transplanting a head is pretty easy. A single guy with an axe and a sewing kit should be able to do it.

    12. Re: Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey at least you don't have communism. Imagine how bad it would be living in a lefty hell like the Netherlands. Health care must suck over there, right?

  16. Well... by Kierthos · · Score: 1

    We don't push back the bounds of what is impossible without trying.

    Now, clearly, I'm not saying we should try _anything_ under the sun to see if it will work. We should have ethics in science and medicine.

    But this is a case where the patient is, of his own free will, accepting the risks of this procedure. And the risks are considerable. It is quite likely that he will die from this. It is also quite likely that if he doesn't die, that he won't live very long afterwards, or that his quality of life will not be better than what he has now.

    There is, frankly speaking, a very small chance that this will work with resounding success.

    But even in failure, there is a chance that we could learn something from this that will make this procedure or other related medical procedures more likely to occur successfully.

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  17. Month granuarity is the problem by tepples · · Score: 2

    Say Newsweek and nine other sites all noticed a sharp drop in advertisement revenue due to tracking blockers and responded by putting up a paywall. How many visitors would actually be willing to buy a whole month's subscription to all these sites for $40* just to read one article on each site? Or if you operated such a site, which micropayment method would you use instead to sell access to individual articles?

    * Assuming each site offers the same price as WIRED ($4/mo)

    1. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't I'd put up a pay what you think it's worth donation link. Then I'd put up more content of better quality and more interesting content which would draw a larger base both blocking and non-blocking and would increase advertising revenue. Through this path I'd be the champion of news to the people and build a loyal following and fan base.

      Going to war with the consumers of your content is never the good plan. That path leads to people not seeking you out with news, it leads to people seeking alternatives and those alternatives will eventually come if they don't exist now. If you are an information broker your best path is always the one which leads to providing more and better information to more people than anyone else, regardless of short term gain.

    2. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      Going to war with the consumers of your content is never the good plan.

      I don't have a dog in this hunt and this question isn't an indictment of your position but I am curious if you consider loss prevention sensors and personnel at a store, say Target or Barnes & Noble as warfare against their customers. I realize the analogy isn't perfect but I try to see both sides of the coin and I can certainly understand how content producers on the internet would have an interest in making a living. I read a lot of free stuff online and I don't think I've ever actually clicked on an ad in my life but some people do so there's definitely a business model to be had.

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    3. Re: Month granuarity is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not this convo again. For the 10000000 time, stealing =! Copying.

    4. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by shaitand · · Score: 2

      The analogy has a very large flaw in that loss prevention sensors and personnel exist to prevent theft and there is no theft involved in what we are discussing.

      That said, I think it would be fair to characterize some loss prevention efforts as anti-consumer and effectively going to war with customers. The reality of these efforts shows, as brick and mortar retailers introduce more and more of these things which interfere with the experience of legitimate consumers they become less and less convenient relative to online retailers at a time when they need to emphasize how much more convenient they are.

      It isn't just sensors, which have largely been proven to be useless. You can simply ignore the alarms being tripped and walk out of the store anyway. They can't even detain you. It's also the new return policies at many retailers especially with regard to electronics and media. This is especially silly with media which the retailer can simply report as unsold and destroyed when returned.

      Nothing I said is contrary to content producers making a living. It is simply a longer term investment. Look at the comic industry. They've encouraged people to clone their work, they've encouraged copying, etc and continued to make their products available at low cost for decades. That loyal fanbase that they've nurtured and grown over time has proven more than willing to pay for premium content and it now paying off in billions at the box office.

      Early Google was not merely a better search engine, it actually wasn't all that much better in the beginning in terms of results. Google built it's base on being less intrusive with it's advertising than competitors. The much cleaner page and simplicity when combined with ever improving search results is what drew people. Even when the results weren't dramatically better you could find information more quickly with google because you didn't have to wade through the crap and people liked a company that was pro-user. Odd that users would like a site that seemed pro-user.

      People no longer believe in these content sources and in response they are throwing up a paywall and making it more difficult to get at them. You don't grow a reputation by having an ever shrinking base, if you have a massive following you have massive potential to make revenue.

    5. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The analogy has a very large flaw in that loss prevention sensors and personnel exist to prevent theft and there is no theft involved in what we are discussing.

      You would say that considering it isn't your content that is being stolen. I think I see the problem.

    6. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by shaitand · · Score: 1

      "You would say that considering it isn't your content that is being stolen. I think I see the problem."

      That attitude is the barrier for content producers. Those who drop it will have the potential to succeed going forward. Those who embrace it will die slow deaths.

    7. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So content producers should make it easy for people to just take their stuff for free? How does that succeed??

    8. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't I'd put up a pay what you think it's worth donation link. Then I'd put up more content of better quality and more interesting content which would draw a larger base both blocking and non-blocking and would increase advertising revenue. Through this path I'd be the champion of news to the people and build a loyal following and fan base.

      Yeah, what a great idea. The US tax system should work similarly. Just donate (or not!) what you wish if you use the services.

    9. Re: Month granuarity is the problem by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      Lie to yourself all you want, but if you read this comment and didn't send me $20, you stole from me. Because anybody can use any word at any time, even if it makes no sense. When you're 3 you'll understand.

    10. Re: Month granuarity is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah words (in English) are just a combination of 26 letters. Why is "Author" or "copywriter", or... extending the number of characters.. "programmer" even a job?

    11. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by Threni · · Score: 1

      Well, those theft detector things are odd. I've rarely seen anyone challenged when they've walked out and it's gone off; probably because of the large number of times the staff has forgotten to hunt for every last device secreted on an item of clothing. Also, in the uk at least, they can't force anyone to open their bags and show that they've not stolen anything; all they can do is arrest you and force you back into the shop and if they then discover you've not taken anything you can sue them for wrongful arrest and unlawful imprisonment.

      Still, flashing lights and loud noises - nice bit of theatre.

    12. Re:Month granuarity is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could perfectly read it. Is my NoScript doing some magic?

  18. Another prediction of Heinlein may come to life by mi · · Score: 1

    Heinlein's I Will Fear No Evil, written in 1970, predicted a brain transplant for "early 21st century".

    This — transplanting the entire head, rather than just the brain — is not quite it, but let's not quibble... Best of luck, pan Spiridonov.

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    1. Re:Another prediction of Heinlein may come to life by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      What doesn't make sense is that they're transplanting the head, while severing the spinal cord. It would make a lot more sense to open up a path through the spine and move the head and the spinal cord together. That way, they can reattach a bunch of peripheral nerves independently, which means if things aren't perfect, they'll eventually grow together on their own and start functioning. That procedure would have a much better chance of success.

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    2. Re:Another prediction of Heinlein may come to life by mi · · Score: 1

      That procedure would have a much better chance of success.

      I don't know, I'm not a doctor. Are you?

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    3. Re:Another prediction of Heinlein may come to life by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      You don't have to be a doctor to know that peripheral nerves regenerate, whereas CNS nerves basically don't. You just have to have passed 8th-grade science. And there have been actual successful reattachments of peripheral nerves, including bundles of nerves at or near the spinal cord, whereas as far as I know, reattaching severed spinal cords hasn't ever been done in humans.

      I mean yes, there's definitely a bigger "ooh, neat" factor if they're successful at doing it this way, but it seems much more rational to do these sorts of tests on people whose spines are already severed because of injuries. If they really want to give this guy a full-body transplant, they should do it in a way that has a decent chance of success, rather than in a way that lots of doctors think is completely and totally insane.

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    4. Re:Another prediction of Heinlein may come to life by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Never mind. I found the answer. The patient's disease isn't actually muscle wasting, per se, but rather a form of muscle atrophy caused by failing nerves in the spinal column. If you kept the same spinal column, the new body would probably fairly quickly fail in the same way.

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  19. I Call BS by 0xG · · Score: 0

    Doctors claiming the ability have made headlines (even on /.) before.

    The acid test is: has it been successfully tried on another mamal?
    Um, no...

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    1. Re:I Call BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The acid test is: has it been successfully tried on another mamal?
      Um, no...

      It has been tested on mammals before.
      Head transplant

      There are claims that the procedure has been successfully done on a Monkey but the field of head transplants is a controversial one.

    2. Re:I Call BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds adventurous and morally questionable enough to have some issues procuring research funding, so a desperate rich person is probably the doctor's only chance to try this out. And the guy's probably not that interested in shelling out another $20M for an animal trial.

  20. Wait for it...... by beheaderaswp · · Score: 1

    So a doctor is giving two people head at once!!!!

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  21. Re:IDIOTIC by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

    And then a body transplant?

  22. I will fear no evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heinlein was prescient.

    1. Re:I will fear no evil by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      In many ways, not just this one.

  23. "Next, Spiridonov’s head will be nearly froz by 0xG · · Score: 1

    Next, Spiridonov’s head will be nearly frozen, ultimately reaching 12 to 15 degrees Celsius, which will make him temporarily brain-dead.

    Which sounds pretty cold if you don't understand SI units or Metric system...

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  24. More than just one problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not considering paying anything to anyone if that also includes my name, address, credit history, and a bunch of other things that, as it stands, I'm forced to give away with whichever payment method I'll be using. Come up with a truly anonymous way to pay and I might consider it. Might, because I have very little trust in the people running this "e-commerce" thing. That's not just because I don't trust them with my personal info, I also don't trust them to come up with something worth paying for.

    In that sense the current derpage has pretty much poisoned the well. Also and besides, I'm not convinced that most of the websites available "for ads" or "for pay" are actually worth it and I would not at all mind if much of what's online just up and vanished. Certainly since much of what's online now is really just clickbait, thinning the slop for everyone else, too.

  25. Bravo! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    This guy is ahead of the curve

  26. This will be great with gender dysphoria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those that feel they are in the wrong body will finally have the best of all worlds. Changing a mans body into that of a womans is too difficult but if one can just swap the body then it will be almost perfection. I wonder how much it will cost to buy a persons body out from under them.

    1. Re:This will be great with gender dysphoria by HatofPig · · Score: 1

      Obviously two gender-dysphoric persons of opposite sexes and $20 million between them can just swap. The procedure might have a higher chance of success if they were siblings! Okay we entered the twilight zone a while ago, how do we get out?

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  27. Presidential candidate by darrellg1 · · Score: 1

    put Trump's head on Hillary's body, and we got ourselves someone worth voting for! (this has been your non-partisan political nightmare for the day)

    1. Re: Presidential candidate by tigersha · · Score: 1

      Poor Bill! He aint gonne like that!

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  28. Why not go dual core? by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems like a better idea, that would have to work if the current plan will work, would be to graft the head onto a healthy fully functional human. That is you get a human with two heads. One head is already fully integrated to the body. That's important because your body depends on an autonomic nervous system to regulate it. Even if it is true that the new head could learn to control the body's mucles-- eventually-- its not going to work out of the gate. SO the body is going to die or be on life support while things rewire. And I would wonder how a body on life support even gets the feedback it needs to engage in some neural plasticity.

    On the other hand if you just graft the head and don't bother with the whole spinal cord thing then you have a lot more possibilities. The new head gets fed by a healthy working body. You might need to step up glucose production to handle two heads but I think that's within our current dynamic range.

    Thus you could carry your mom or dad's head around on your shoulder.

    You could then try to connect their spine to some other neural interface, either indirectly through say some strips of chest muscle that then control some electrical interface or directly to an electrical interface. Either way, you have the means to control some mechanical arms so the head at least has something it can do besides go for a ride.

    Things like speech might be a problem till you figure out how to get an airway, throat, and the anchor points for jaw and tongue working right, but in the mean time you could steven hawking it with some eyebrow muscles or eye twitches.

    Sees a lot more plausible and they already have done this with dogs.

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    1. Re:Why not go dual core? by kimvette · · Score: 5, Funny

      Zaphod Beeblebrox, is that you?

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    2. Re:Why not go dual core? by lazy+genes · · Score: 0

      It would seem unethical to graft a older head to a 16 year old body. In time they would eventually remove the original head. Seems like it would make a good sci-fi film. Seems like it might happen someday because we seem to be genetically producing more of the people that would do such a thing.

  29. He should find another donor body by tigersha · · Score: 1

    There should be a bain-dead Playboy playmate or swimsuit model somewhere?

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    1. Re:He should find another donor body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me Me Me

    2. Re:He should find another donor body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There should be a bain-dead Playboy playmate or swimsuit model somewhere?

      80-90% of them I would wager.

    3. Re:He should find another donor body by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      "World's first living brain donor!"

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  30. what? no Futurama Jokes yet? by FudRucker · · Score: 2

    i am ashamed of you slashdotters for not taking advantage of the Head in a Jar thing on Futurama, to make wisecracks about the worlds first head transplant, i wonder who the lucky head is? and the unfortunate head is?

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    1. Re:what? no Futurama Jokes yet? by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      "She's got the body of Daisy Ridley, and the face of Luise Rainer."
      Brings a whole new meaning to the term "butterface". 20-something body, 100+ head.

    2. Re:what? no Futurama Jokes yet? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      i am ashamed of you slashdotters for not taking advantage of the Head in a Jar thing on Futurama, to make wisecracks about the worlds first head transplant, i wonder who the lucky head is? and the unfortunate head is?

      Wouldn't this be closer to the time Zoidberg had to sew Fry's head onto Amy's body? Or even better would be a joke about headless Spiro Agnew

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    3. Re:what? no Futurama Jokes yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Oh sure, everyone's always in favor of saving Hitler's brain, but once you put it in the body of a great white shark, ooooh! Suddenly you've 'gone too far'!" :D

  31. Re:Is the donor dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What the hell, the blood flow is still going. Brain dead typically means you're on life support.

  32. We all knew this was coming, right? by mknewman · · Score: 1
  33. never by wyHunter · · Score: 1

    Great, now we'll never get rid of Hilary. She'll just keep buying bodies.

    1. Re:never by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

      Doesn't have to; she knows where all the bodies are buried!

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  34. Crap and Bullshit by rdelsambuco · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is now Weekly World News.

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    1. Re:Crap and Bullshit by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Batboy has always had a two digit user id, you insensitive clod!

  35. Re:"Next, Spiridonov’s head will be nearly f by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    You certainly wouldn't want to drink beer that warm.

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  36. Why limit your choice of bodies by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps it would be simpler to graft the head on some other mammal. You could genetically engineer a humanized immunosuppressed animal, say a horse or a sheep. Humanized mice have been created to grow human compatible tissue so this isnt far fetched. By using clones and carefully raising them under highly identical conditions in a artifiial womb you could create more reproducible neural patterns in the bodies making it easier to learn which neuron controls what activitiy. Perhaps you could even train those neurons ahead of time to be adapted to the neural spiking patterns of the human head.

    Then you graft the human head onto it and poof you are a centaur with a horse sized dick.

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    1. Re:Why limit your choice of bodies by Talderas · · Score: 1

      The martians are light years ahead of us. Transplanting a human head onto the body of a chihuahua is child's play for them.

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    2. Re:Why limit your choice of bodies by Gort65 · · Score: 1
  37. Photo ID by zakeria · · Score: 1

    at least you won't have to update your passport and driver's license

  38. Whose head? by PPH · · Score: 1

    Abby Normal?

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  39. Truncated English by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

    Who is "Doctor Ready" ?

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      Brother of Doctor Aim, and Sister to Doctor Fire...

  40. Man's Head, Woman's Body by wasteoid · · Score: 1

    That would've made the story far more interesting, if a guy's head was attached to a woman's body.

    1. Re:Man's Head, Woman's Body by cellocgw · · Score: 2

      That would've made the story far more interesting, if a guy's head was attached to a woman's body.

      It's been done. Heinlein "I will fear no evil" .

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  41. Oh lawd by whoozwah · · Score: 1

    This is a sexual harassment lawsuit waiting to happen. Headline reads: Doctor gives patient head. At least the patient is gonna get ahead in life.

    1. Re:Oh lawd by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      NEVER ask a genie, "How about a little head?"

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  42. Mars Attack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? I want to see this happen. Let's start with a hair / or brain replacement for Trump.

  43. Re:Is the donor dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to uncheck the organ donor box?

  44. Awesome! by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Since I"m bald, nearsighted, and have a skin condition on my face, I'd just LOVE to be able to have a new head transplanted onto my body!

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  45. Re:Is the donor dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Huh? Brain dead has nothing to do with the heart not pumping or the lungs not working (perhaps with a respirator). That's what the whole "pulling the plug" is about. If the brain dead, but the rest of the body (perhaps with help) is continuing to function what should be done.

  46. Re:Is the donor dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're braindead, which means it's the same as donating individual organs like hearts, lungs, livers, kidneys.

  47. Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *Patient wakes up after procedure*

    "Hey, thanks for the new face!"

    *World of medical science turns upside down*

  48. Full prosthetic bodies by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    I am wondering how long before we have access to full prosthetic bodies ... anyone who has seen Ghost in the Shell will know about this :)

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  49. Metal Gear Solid 5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was an article about how the similarities of one of the characters in the game to sergio canavero

    http://motherboard.vice.com/read/surgeon-declares-human-head-transplant-isnt-a-metal-gear-solid-publicity-stunt

  50. X-Files? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't X-Files already do a movie about this?

  51. Is this really new news? by DaveMikulec · · Score: 1

    I mean, politicians have been transplanting their heads up their own asses for decades.

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  52. That is literally the best outcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's even possible. There is absolutely zero chance that the patient will ever be able to walk on his own, etc. That has never even been done with an animal.
    Much more likely, he'll just die during the operation, or immediately after.
    If he survives at all they'll probably call it a complete success.

    1. Re: That is literally the best outcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he dies, does he get his 20 mil back?

  53. $20million? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I wouldn't have thrown up so much, I could have done a head transplant for $1000. That is not the real story/question/requirement.

  54. Spinal cord fusion? by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 1

    They can fuse a spinal cord? Color me confused, but then why are there still paraplegics?

    1. Re:Spinal cord fusion? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      They don't have $20 million?

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    2. Re:Spinal cord fusion? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Color me confused, but when did "can" become "always can?"

      The spinal cord is not magical. Reconnecting nerves has been a thing for a long time. No, it doesn't always work. No, you don't start cutting on the important ones unless you're going to die anyways. Yes, some people who had spinal cord injuries and were told they would never walk went on to have successful surgeries, heal, and walk.

    3. Re:Spinal cord fusion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can fuse a spinal cord? Color me confused, but then why are there still paraplegics?

      I've seen the longer version of the video. In the "head transplant" the spinal cord is severed with a super sharp blade. In most accidents that cause paraplegics there is blunt trauma. The analogy used was a banana. Super sharp blade, you get nice clean cut. Most paraplegics are made in a situation, as if you took the banana and crushed it in your hand. Its easy to put the 2 pieces of the cleanly cut banana together. Its really hard to put a pile of banana mush back together into any meaningful way.

  55. Head or body transplant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if Jack and Janet both want to change their genders and decide on head transplants? Will it be the body or the head that decides which legal person you are?

    1. Re:Head or body transplant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it will be the republican that decides...

    2. Re:Head or body transplant? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      That's simple. If you change / lose any other body part, you are still you. It goes with the head.

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  56. He'll find out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shoulda quit while he was ahead...

  57. I think "Head Transplant" is the better name by jsm300 · · Score: 1

    Yes, I agree that "Body Transplant" technically makes more sense, however, as other people have noted, the head is part of the body. When you hear "Head Transplant" you know exactly what it means. If you hear "Body Transplant" it's not completely clear what that might mean without further clarification.

  58. Sensory overload might drive him insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See Cybermen. I wouldn't recommend this procedure without an emotional inhibitor.

  59. Identity and law by Dareth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On the off chance this actually works, he will have the fingerprints and DNA of the donor. Will he be responsible for children fathered by the body donor prior to the surgery? What about afterwards? Just a few thoughts off the top of my head. But it would be interesting to see how it would play out.

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    1. Re:Identity and law by avandesande · · Score: 1

      As many cuckolded men have discovered, yes they are responsible even if the child is not theirs genetically.

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  60. Re:Is the donor dead? by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

    That would be true if and only if the "donor" is truly brain dead. There is growing evidence that the accuracy of that diagnosis is farther from 100% most would be comfortable with.

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  61. No wonder my health care premiums are so expensive by stabiesoft · · Score: 1

    And all I really want is a reasonably priced physical...

  62. Aging on a younger body by nanospook · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So if you are 70 and get grafted to the body of an 18 year old.. Assuming all goes well, what will happen? Will your head still die on schedule? Or does the younger body result in a rejuvenation of the head and brain?

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  63. body and brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where do you think the brain — as opposed to the body — ends? Please note how the article speaks of a head transplant.

  64. Finally.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You CAN put an old head on young shoulders.

  65. What next, your brain in a clone of your body? by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 1

    But probably in China where ethics are not an issue.

  66. Happy Days ... by BenBoy · · Score: 1

    Arguably, at this point reality has jumped the shark.

  67. Sex change ops by iTrawl · · Score: 1

    Right now sex change / gender reassignment ops are a bit of a trick. Now... if one could swap heads between two people who identify as the opposite gender, imagine how transgender people in Alabama will be treated. The birth certificate is for the body (the genital area specifically), not the head. If it were for the head this debates would even exist in the first place.

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  68. RAH FTW! by rcharbon · · Score: 1

    I always loved Robert Heinlein's "I Will Fear No Evil". Society going crazy, brain/head transplants. We're right on track.