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Microsoft Will Stop Supporting Windows Live Mail 2012 (office.com)
An anonymous reader writes: "Windows Live Mail 2012 users are on notice: Switch to a modern email client or lose access to any Microsoft email accounts they have," reports InfoWorld. In a Thursday blog post, Microsoft informed users of their Windows Live Mail software that "the time has come for you to upgrade to a new email application." Outlook.com is moving to a new Office 365 infrastructure which uses protocols not supported by Windows Live Mail, meaning its users "will not be able to send or receive Outlook.com email from Windows Live Mail 2012 after your account is upgraded." InfoWorld points out this affects users with email addresses ending with @outlook.com, @hotmail.com, @live.com, or @msn.com.
The Outlook team's corporate vice president posted on the Office.com blog that "We recognize that changes like this can be difficult and apologize for any inconvenience this causes you..." adding that "we are confident that you will love the benefits and performance of the new Outlook.com," and recommending users switch to the Mail app on Windows. The Inquirer reports that Microsoft also emailed the software's users, suggesting that "If you are using Windows 7, you can upgrade to a newer version of Windows to enjoy the Mail app and the other benefits."
The Outlook team's corporate vice president posted on the Office.com blog that "We recognize that changes like this can be difficult and apologize for any inconvenience this causes you..." adding that "we are confident that you will love the benefits and performance of the new Outlook.com," and recommending users switch to the Mail app on Windows. The Inquirer reports that Microsoft also emailed the software's users, suggesting that "If you are using Windows 7, you can upgrade to a newer version of Windows to enjoy the Mail app and the other benefits."
For Windows Live Mail 2015. Evolve or die!
... Outlook.com is moving to a new Office 365 infrastructure which uses protocols not supported by Windows Live Mail,
Soooo.... which one doesn't support the standard email protocols that the rest of the world seems to use, the new Office 365 infrastructrue or Windows Live Mail?
Microsoft, how come much of what you do these days makes life more miserable for computer users instead of making it easier?
Stuff like this on the side with the Windows 10 strategy,
you'd think they invited McKenzie to advice them...
I stopped supporting Windows a long time ago
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
- Errors about message having changed if marked read before deleting, so have to switch out of folder and back in.
- Delete doesn't properly mark as deleted, and if you set effect of deleting to move to Trash folder, half the time deleting from there does nothing.
I realise that most Microsoft development work is outsourced now, which means it's not actually written by people with a clue but rather thrown together and tested by listening to the biggest corporate clients and vaguely noticing the most important remaining bugs via "telemetry". But it's kind of annoying because Outlook 2007 was just the right balance of openness and trademark MS integration, and I don't know of a Windows calendar (go fuck yourself if you're about to suggest anything in the Cloud) that's as neat and stable as Outlook's.
in the first place?
do i have to buy office to have an email client for my hotmail account?
or where is the replacement email client?
Another example of Microsoft moving relentlessly towards their wet dream of a walled garden.
This is useless bullshit- there is NO need to move to a mail app on Windows just to send and receive mail.
This is one of the most basic functions of the internet, and there are loads of full-featured webmail clients that work just fine, but that's not restrictive enough for Microsoft- they're going to insist that all your mail gets funneled through them so they can exercise even more control.
Sorry Microsoft, I won't be playing along with your horsecrap.
They say that users "will not be able to send or receive Outlook.com email from Windows Live Mail 2012 after your account is upgraded."
What kind of "upgrade" locks you out of your mail and restricts your ability to send and receive on the platform of your choice? A Microsoft "upgrade", of course!
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
They could of had a solution for these users. But they are too busy putting pocket integration into australs to care.
No longer supporting a 4 year old mail client that have had several successors is a story now? As in, clickbait story for mindless bashing? One of several final straws, but the bookmark finally gets the deletion it deserves now.
Either it will still continue to work via POP3/IMAP, or I can just forward my hotmail account to gmail.
Will this be an opportunity for Thunderbird?
*** On the Internet, no one knows you're using a VIC-20
Surely, I thought, Microsoft had come up with the best way possible to terminate a service - initially give it the name "Windows Live Service X" then on termination change the name to indicate status.
But here we find Windows Live Mail 2012 will NOT be renamed to Windows Dead Mail 2012, instead it will BE Dead while named Live. How does that make any sense?
Well as the old saying goes, naming is one of the hardest problems in CS...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Seems Microsoft are a decade behind again.
Wait, 2. Whew, nearly.
Microsoft, you lost the war against Everything Ever.
Your empire is still crumbling since then.
You can't do shit like this any more.
You are committing suicide for your services.
In that case, I'm glad I'm still using Outlook Express on Windows XP!
What is Windows Live Mail? Is it an email client? Did it come bundled with an OS? I've never heard of it before, and I work in a 100% MS shop.
I don't respond to AC's.
I stopped supporting Microsoft a long time ago. Long live F/L-OSS!
What are all those poor, stupid, benighted Microsoft Windoze lusers, and Microsoft Anything Else lusers going to do when their digital masters in Redmond finally go out of business?
Suffer, while we laugh at them, or weep with them, being left behind in the coming post-Windoze Age of Enlightenment and sweet freedom!
Setuping your own mail server is fine. I do that. But it's far more time consuming that upgrading a mail client... especially when from time to time your ip block get banned for no reason. Requesting reviewer and get unblocked.... with hotmail.com domain you don't have to deal with that.
How modern is this client crypto implementation? If it lacks TLS 1.2 support, forcing users to migrate until it is too late is probably a good thing for them.
So Windows Live Mail become Windows Dead dotDrop.
Now, let's have everyone who is alive stop supporting Microsoft in 2016. There seems to be a trend on the net, and now in operating systems to make stuff suck.
I don't really care about Windows Live Mail 2012. But does this mean I won't be able to access my mail anymore with Outlook Express 6 from 2001? How about Thunderbird?
Registering a domain name gives you options - but you don't have to run your own server. I use my own domain for mail, but at the moment I'm just using gmail to handle the mail. But I can switch anytime...
I switched to accessing my email through a browser a while back. It seems actual mail programs are few and many are not up to what they should be. Mozilla had a decent one but managed to ignore it for so long I think they now have passed it on to others to support. Live Mail was sort of part of a suite of apps Microsoft put out to support Windows 7 which managed to not include any email or some other apps. Well, this is why you can't put much faith in one app for a primary use. Because you never know when support will get dropped for it. Obviously Microsoft wants you to buy Office and use Outlook.
I really get zero spam and phishing emails. Only program that allows me to really control my email.
Jack of all trades,master of none
there are loads of full-featured webmail clients that work just fine
To me, "just fine" includes the use case of going online to send mail, going offline to read it and compose replies, and going back online to send the replies. That used to be common when dial-up was pay-per-minute. It remains common nowadays on laptops to avoid having to subscribe to cellular Internet to read mail while riding the bus. In theory, webmail could work offline using IndexedDB and Service Workers, but in practice, I doubt that this works across all major browsers and all major webmail providers.
A native mail user agent is supposed to communicate with the mail server using SMTP AUTH for outgoing mail and IMAP for incoming mail. But historically, webmail providers have declined to deploy these protocols for two purposes, one being control of automated generation of spam and the other being advertisement display. Some have offered a free tier with only webmail and a subscription tier with SMTP and IMAP.