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Mark Zuckerberg Votes To Keep Peter Thiel On Facebook Board (gizmodo.com)

Mark Zuckerberg has decided to keep billionaire VC Peter Thiel on Facebook's board of directors. The decision comes after weeks of controversy over whether it was appropriate for billionaire Thiel, who recently admitted to secretly funding a campaign of third-party lawsuits to bankrupt Gawker Media (more relevant but paywalled link, to remain on the board of a company that now plays such a powerful role in publishing. From a Gizmodo report: At Facebook's annual shareholders meeting today, every board member was up for re-election. The decision was made by shareholder vote, but ultimately fell to Zuckerberg, who controls more than 60 percent of the total voting power on the Facebook board.

155 comments

  1. Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well then, it wasn't really up to a vote then was it?

    Captcha: Approval

    1. Re:Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just like the Democratic Party presidential primaries!

    2. Re: Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's Her turn! Just like it was Bob Dole's turn!

    3. Re:Er by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      Well then, it wasn't really up to a vote then was it?

      Zuckerberg controls 60% of the voting power? Doesn't seem much like a *public* corporation...

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    4. Re: Er by corwinsr · · Score: 1

      Exactly. It's only been in the past few decades that voters had any say in party nominations and people act like this is some constitutional right from the dawn of our country. Read a history book you whiners.

    5. Re:Er by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Not any less public than the average election in the US.

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    6. Re:Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good you feel that way you dumb fuck. Because of that attitude, a shit ton of people are NOT voting for her this time to spite the DNC. Hello president Trump, at least we know hes going to keep H1Bs in check right?

    7. Re:Er by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      > The GOP has unbound delagates which is the same thing as superdelagates.

      It is *kind of* like superdelegates. I mean, they aren't bound, but they are (1) elected, usually after pledging to support a candidate and (2) less than 10% of the total vote.

      The Democrat version is around 18% of the total vote, and are not elected for the position.

    8. Re: Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who owns the shares has nothing to do with what constitutes a public company.

    9. Re:Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not any less public than the average election in the US.

      Turnout was 57.5% in 2012. The presidency was won by 3.9%. So roughly 11 times as many people stayed home as was the margin of victory.

      The problem is not with the technical process of elections. People can vote. People can even vote for better candidates, though it is difficult at times. They just don't do it.

      We need a country where voting is considered a sacred duty, where each citizen gets informed on the issues. I don't see it happening, but that is what is required. It would also help if true and accurate details of each issue/candidate was available in the voting area, though that is another difficult issue.

    10. Re: Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who owns the shares is literally the definition of what constitutes a public company.

      Percentages (under 100%) and voting power, however, are not.

    11. Re: Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Idiot, it's called a ballot delivery lever.

    12. Re:Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would end in disaster.

      Research suggests that people vote for candidates that have only slightly higher competence than themselves. The lower the competence of the voter, the lower the competence of the candidate. Usually, the most incompetent voters stay at home, so forcing them to vote will impact negatively the quality of your politicians.

      Another research points that countries with mandatory voting have no political alternance, as the poor vote always for the first populist candidate that gives them free stuff to buy their votes and stay in power. Taking money from the middle class to give free stuff to freeloaders generates a perverse incentive that feeds a vicious circle, which ultimately results in economy collapse. When basic services can no longer be afforded, the country goes to hell. Recent examples are Brazil and Venezuela, which will be followed soon by the arab emirates, which have the most freeloaders in the world.

    13. Re:Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A sacred duty when the options are abysmal - makes absolutely no sense.

    14. Re:Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Political parties are private organizations, moron.

      Anyone not voting for Hillary out of spite of a private organization deserves the dumbass racist Trump.

    15. Re:Er by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't matter, they are private organizations and can nominate in any manner they choose.

      Dumbass

  2. Biased Article by wasteoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "who recently admitted to secretly funding a campaign of third-party lawsuits to bankrupt Gawker Media"

    Peter Thiel never admitted that, according to the articles linked. It was Jay Rosen, media critic and a professor of journalism at New York University who stated that opinion.

    Also, half the links are from Gawker, which is obviously not an impartial actor in this spectacle.

    I guess reporting on board positions isn't that exciting without spicing it up with gossipy speculation of a person's motives.

    1. Re:Biased Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically it's not an opinion. Whether or not Peter Thiel funded the trial is a fact that can be proven true or false. An opinion can't be proven.

    2. Re:Biased Article by tomhath · · Score: 1

      Whether or not Peter Thiel funded the trial is a fact that can be proven true or false. An opinion can't be proven.

      What was reported is one man's opinion.

      If it can be proven it is a fact. If it's disproved it's an opinion that's wrong.

    3. Re:Biased Article by theIsovist · · Score: 5, Informative

      FYI, he did come out as the financier for that lawsuit, which did bankrupt Gawker. Whether or not that was his specific intention, I couldn't say, but he did have an ax to grind and subsequently bury in Gawker. Non-gawker related source below:

      http://www.npr.org/2016/05/26/...

    4. Re:Biased Article by tlhIngan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "who recently admitted to secretly funding a campaign of third-party lawsuits to bankrupt Gawker Media"

        Peter Thiel never admitted that, according to the articles linked. It was Jay Rosen, media critic and a professor of journalism at New York University who stated that opinion.

        Also, half the links are from Gawker, which is obviously not an impartial actor in this spectacle.

        I guess reporting on board positions isn't that exciting without spicing it up with gossipy speculation of a person's motives.

      It's an article from a Gawker site (Gizmodo). ALL the Gawker sites are heavily Anti-Thiel, and they're playing up the whole "We're just a news organization who did no wrong but this big bad evil billionaire wants to bankrupt us to silence the press!" aspect.

      They never acknowledge that it was a valid lawsuit, that they were found guilty, that they purposefully ignored court orders, etc. Just "First Amendment!" and "We're innocent!".

      Always playing up to the "Evil billionaire wants to silence news organization" card. Ignoring their own transgressions.

      The Hogan lawsuit was just as much as seeking revenge as slapping Gawker with the reality that no, news organizations are NOT above the law

      It's really the only thing Gawker is writing about daily - and they're the only organization claiming this - everyone else has pretty much filed it away and isn't even taking sides, preferring a more balanced view.

    5. Re:Biased Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Opinions can be proven.

      Where did the stupid notion that opinions can't be wrong come from?

    6. Re:Biased Article by edittard · · Score: 1

      It's the new "correlation disproves causality". Didn't you get the memo?

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    7. Re:Biased Article by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Opinions can be proven.

      Where did the stupid notion that opinions can't be wrong come from?

      Parents.

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    8. Re: Biased Article by corwinsr · · Score: 2

      You're acting like this was someones opinion. There IS proof that Thiel was behind all of these suits. It wasn't just some made up fairy tale.

    9. Re:Biased Article by transami · · Score: 1
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    10. Re:Biased Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, exactly, is ’‘wrong’? Gawker broke the law, and Thiel just financially supported the victim. What's shocking to me is that court cases are so expensive in the US that you need serious money to fight them in the first place.

    11. Re: Biased Article by wasteoid · · Score: 1

      Thiel helped fund the lawsuits, obviously that part is fact. However, Gawker and other sites / people spin it like his intention was to bankrupt Gawker, whereas Thiel's own words say something different (from the NY Times article):

      “It’s less about revenge and more about specific deterrence,” he said on Wednesday in his first interview since his identity was revealed. “I saw Gawker pioneer a unique and incredibly damaging way of getting attention by bullying people even when there was no connection with the public interest.”

      Mr. Thiel said that Gawker published articles that were “very painful and paralyzing for people who were targeted.” He said, “I thought it was worth fighting back.”

      Mr. Thiel added: “I can defend myself. Most of the people they attack are not people in my category. They usually attack less prominent, far less wealthy people that simply can’t defend themselves.” He said that “even someone like Terry Bollea who is a millionaire and famous and a successful person didn’t quite have the resources to do this alone.”

    12. Re:Biased Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Always playing up to the "Evil billionaire wants to silence news organization" card. Ignoring their own transgressions.

      Who's playing this up for effect, now?

    13. Re:Biased Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, that brings up a funny anecdote:

      My sister: Some people are stupid and believe in such nonsense.
      Mom: Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
      My sister: Why?
      Mom: Opinions can't be wrong.
      My sister: Hitler was a good man.
      Mom: ......Touché.

    14. Re:Biased Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Court cases are very cheap if you are willing to represent yourself

    15. Re: Biased Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Hitler was a good man.

  3. Birds of a feather by turkeydance · · Score: 0

    give everyone else the bird

    1. Re:Birds of a feather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A bird in the bush is worth two in the hand. Or two hands in the bush is worth a bird. Something like that. Or maybe its two birds walked into a bar...

    2. Re:Birds of a feather by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Well there seems to be an absence of a certain ornithological piece: a headline regarding mass awareness of a certain avian variety.

    3. Re:Birds of a feather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm confused can you break that down into something involving a car?

  4. Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one who thinks it's wrong to scrutinize what people do during their own time, and then use that information to decide how they are to be treated on company time? If the shareholders are fine with the way Thiel is performing in his official Facebook role, that should be the only criteria. If he is doing a bad job and damaging Facebook in any way, he should be fired for that reason and only that reason.

    I didn't like the way that prior Mozilla executive was treated either. His performance at Mozilla should have been his only employment criteria. What he did to be active in politics during his own time was no one else's business.

    Anything else, and you get a very nasty "snitch" culture where conformity is everything and a tremendous chilling effect is applied to what really should be free expression.

    1. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. In 2016, your own time IS company time.

      If you want personal time, that's fine, but you will be replaced by someone who doesn't.

    2. Re:Am I the only one? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Am I the only one who thinks it's wrong to scrutinize what people do during their own time, and then use that information to decide how they are to be treated on company time?

      If your private action makes the corporation look bad, you can generally be fired from your job. A good reason to keep your personal and professional lives as separate as possible.

    3. Re:Am I the only one? by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who thinks it's wrong to scrutinize what people do during their own time, and then use that information to decide how they are to be treated on company time? If the shareholders are fine with the way Thiel is performing in his official Facebook role, that should be the only criteria. If he is doing a bad job and damaging Facebook in any way, he should be fired for that reason and only that reason.

      I didn't like the way that prior Mozilla executive was treated either. His performance at Mozilla should have been his only employment criteria. What he did to be active in politics during his own time was no one else's business.

      Anything else, and you get a very nasty "snitch" culture where conformity is everything and a tremendous chilling effect is applied to what really should be free expression.

      In general I agree, I think neither Thiel nor the Mozilla exec did anything to warrant losing their positions.

      However, I still think it's fair to hold board members and corporate officers to a somewhat higher standard when it comes to their public private activities. Even when they don't speak on behalf of their organizations their voice is significantly amplified by their professional roles, and what they say can reflect back on those organizations.

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    4. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I the only one who thinks it's wrong to scrutinize what people do during their own time, and then use that information to decide how they are to be treated on company time?

      Anything else, and you get a very nasty "snitch" culture where conformity is everything and a tremendous chilling effect is applied to what really should be free expression.

      You answered your own question. While you're not alone, you're part of a tiny, hateful, minority.

    5. Re:Am I the only one? by codeAlDente · · Score: 2

      Evidently Sheryl Sandberg sees it differently in this case. From TFA: “Peter did what he did on his own and not as a Facebook board member,” Facebook’s COO Sheryl Sandberg said of Thiel’s decision to fund lawsuits

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    6. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hateful how?

    7. Re:Am I the only one? by barc0001 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      The thinking is that private actions and motivations may color their judgment. Maybe not so far, but what happens if for example it's somehow financially advantageous for Facebook to partner with Gawker? That isn't going to happen with Thiel around.

      > I didn't like the way that prior Mozilla executive was treated either. His performance at Mozilla should have been his only employment criteria.

      Oh you mean the one who believes that not everyone is equal?

      > What he did to be active in politics during his own time was no one else's business.

      The irony burns. It was no one's business except any gays who wanted to get married. Which is interesting because I don't see how any gay people getting married impacts the former Mozilla exec's life at all, but there he was doing his damndest to make sure they couldn't.

    8. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How romantic of you. Such an old fashioned notion, that your private life is private.

      For all but the very rich, what you do on your own time very much affects how you are treated on company time. Those of us who work for a living have to lurk in the shadows and hide our lifestyle in case it might offend someone. Put a mask on when we go to work, lie through our teeth and smile and nod, and hope that we get to keep our minimum wage that our university degrees earned us the privilege of obtaining.

      I would like to live in a world such as the one you imagine, but it has never existed, and never will.

      The best option today is to drop out of society and hide in the woods, but most who try that around here get killed by the police. Slaves are not allowed to escape.

    9. Re: Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crapflooding here has hit a new low. That can be the only explanation.

    10. Re: Am I the only one? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The only way it could be financially advantageous for Facebook to associate with Gawker would be if Facebook would die and be shut down. But we can't have a perfect world . It will have to do for Gawker alone to die and be shut down.

    11. Re:Am I the only one? by erapert · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now look here, you racist bigot homophobe, what Bill Clinton does and what homosexuals do in the privacy of their own bed rooms is their own business; and what political issues a CEO of a company donates for or against with his own money is everyone's business and he should be publicly shamed, fired, and run out of society for it. Especially if it's one of those racist bigot homophobe white males!

      We can't have a society where commoners are free to voice their opinions and/or vote according to their world views-- do you want chaos?!

      You better get with the party line-- er-- get with the times. You don't want to be on the wrong side of history do you? I mean come on, the year is 2016!

    12. Re: Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or start your own business where you are your own boss. But I'm sure you will just complain about how it's too hard and too many regulations and barriers of entry... That's why you get paid minimum wage with a degree, you are a complainer and you get paid accordingly. Anytime you think you could do a better job on your own I'm sure you could try. I hope you become super successful and can hire lots of employees and pay them more and treat them better in the hopes that your companies culture breeds more success. But until you do that how about shoving a sock in it.

    13. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like those Islamic terrorists are a tiny minority of the religion of peace.

    14. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do executives get freedom of speech and action but us plebes don't have freedom to boycot actions we find deplorable.

      Do you even see the contridiction?

    15. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MAGA

    16. Re:Am I the only one? by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who thinks it's wrong to scrutinize what people do during their own time, and then use that information to decide how they are to be treated on company time?

      For a normal person, of course. But we are living in a society where the ultra rich control most aspects. If we do not hold them accountable for their use and abuse of their wealth, then when does it end? It's called Noblesse Oblige, where the nobility have a responsibility to the peasants.

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    17. Re:Am I the only one? by DaHat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh you mean the one who believes that not everyone is equal?

      I was unaware that donating $1k to a campaign against same-sex marriage means that they believe 'not everyone is equal'

      Does this mean when democrats give money to an anti-gun cause... they can be labeled as not seeing everyone as equal? Never-mind their own armed security.

      If republicans give money to an anti-abortion cause... they can be labeled as not seeing everyone as equal? Never-mind men don't really have abortions.

      Spoiler: Not all of us are equal.

      Some are tall, some are short, some are fat, some are thin, some of us are full of love... you clearly are full of hate so many years later.

    18. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, fuck you, that's wrong. What you do on your own time is your own fucking business.

    19. Re: Am I the only one? by corwinsr · · Score: 1

      What he's been doing on his own time IS hurting Facebook's reputation. Which is self evident at this point.

    20. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was unaware that donating $1k to a campaign against same-sex marriage means that they believe 'not everyone is equal'

      If you replace "same-sex" with "interracial", does it become any clearer?

    21. Re:Am I the only one? by arth1 · · Score: 1

      No, fuck you, that's wrong. What you do on your own time is your own fucking business.

      So it's business time then. Nod, nod.

    22. Re:Am I the only one? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 0

      *DING* *DING* *DING We have a winner. Of course, the notion that what people do with their own money and time being their business and their business alone only flies if you're doing what SJW's approve of. If not, they will go to the ends of the Earth to make you stop and shut you up.

      Being on the board of directors of a company doesn't mean you're an employee of the company. It means you have a significant stake in it. Anyone can demand a seat on the board of any company provided that you control enough shares. That doesn't mean you have to own them either. That's what proxy fights are all about.

    23. Re:Am I the only one? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 0

      what Bill Clinton does and what homosexuals do in the privacy of their own bed rooms is their own business;

      I don't recall anyone taking issue with what Bill Clinton does in his bedroom. The Oval Office, sure but not his bedroom.

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    24. Re:Am I the only one? by fredgiblet · · Score: 1

      I agree completely. The whole outrage culture that we've developed is insane and the insistence on firing damn near anyone who posts an opinion is ridiculous.

    25. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was unaware that donating $1k to a campaign against same-sex marriage means that they believe 'not everyone is equal'

      If you replace "same-sex" with "interracial", does it become any clearer?

      Yes, it does. Niggers!

    26. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now look here, you racist bigot homophobe, what Bill Clinton does and what homosexuals do in the privacy of their own bed rooms...

      If i must choose the lesser of two evils, I'll ignore the stuff that should stay private in favour of the one who damages the country the least. That being said, we can do better. We could:

      1) Put all legislation in your favourite distributed version control system, along with which member of congress signed off on every change.
      2) Eliminate any ballot that is linked to a party. Have the primaries use your best instant run off voting algorithm to get it down to the best two candidates for whatever, and then the general to decide the rest.
      3) Eliminate any reference to a party on a ballot, including any party line voting. The ballot or nearby should contain accurate information, but not identify a party nor allow one to simply vote straight one way.
      4) Demand as a people truth from our politicians. Trump should not have won a primary for dog catcher, let along the leader of a party. He is not remotely honest.
      5) Actually pay for in some way actual news reporting. It is too important. By news I don't mean what trump is saying next, but actual investigative journalism.
      6) Make decisions about laws based on cold hard science, including statistics, though only if a preponderance of the evidence supports them.
      7) Draw all districts based on a simple computer algorithm that favours no one.
      8) repeal any law that is not confirmed by a set period of time. We have too many laws. Eventually some should phase out.
      9) greatly reduce tax deductions. They should, at best, be targeted and for a limited time. The total tax rate can be reassessed once that change is made.
      10) enforce workers rights. Unions aren't the enemy
      11) greatly reduce h1bs. If we need them after a year or so, they should have to apply for citizenship, which they should get. Let them spend their money here and contribute.

    27. Re:Am I the only one? by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's wrong. I should have the right not to work with people who vote for things that might harm me personally. For example, would you want to work with a racist who spends his personal time trying to harm you because of your race?

      I don't mind losing money if it means that someone evil doesn't get more power than they already have.

    28. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of use don't approve of any marriage and subsequent special treatment for breeders in the legal system with regard to tax and inheritance. So you can put same-sex, interracial and hetero in there, its all got to stop and the importance of marriage removed completely.

    29. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happened to Brendan Eich is worse, because his attackers only knew what he voted because they purposefully broke the law to find out who voted what in a secret voting process.
      And they even stated that their reason to break the law was so that they could personally track and ruin the career of any person that dared to disagree with their political agenda. This was also the reasoning to make the vote secret in the first place, you know, because the 'democrat party' has become as democratic as Soviet Russia.

      They are thugs, and part of the same totalitarian mafia behind Gawker. Once one of them infiltrates an organisation, they make sure that only their drones will find a job from that point on, which is why they are cancer and have to be excised (by the way, the masonry and jews follow the exact same winning strategy).

      The problem with Mozilla was self-harm brought to themselves, because they purposefully hired SJWs and appointed them to critical positions.

    30. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh you mean the one who believes that not everyone is equal?

      I was unaware that donating $1k to a campaign against same-sex marriage means that they believe 'not everyone is equal'

      When it comes to marriage, yes, it pretty much goes with the territory.

      Does this mean when democrats give money to an anti-gun cause... they can be labeled as not seeing everyone as equal? Never-mind their own armed security.

      Maybe. If the anti-gun Democrat thinks that nobody should be trusted with a gun, that can hardly be unequal. If they think everybody who uses a gun should undergo stringent standards of training and oversight, that's less unequal. If they only think certain people should have guns, while others not, then you get to the unequal part.

      If republicans give money to an anti-abortion cause... they can be labeled as not seeing everyone as equal? Never-mind men don't really have abortions.

      You don't want to get into the recesses of that argument, there is a Male (Father) abortion advocacy in the MRA group. It's actually a false attempt at equality.

      Spoiler: Not all of us are equal.

      Some are tall, some are short, some are fat, some are thin, some of us are full of love... you clearly are full of hate so many years later.

      Nice that you know people so well, but last I checked, the law wasn't supposed to give the tall more rights than the short.

      Of course, the biggest sign of the inequality passed by these groups, even the one Eich supported, is that they supported bans even for alternatives like Civil Unions, in states other than California like Alabama. That state's amendment reflects their true sentiment, and so does their chief judge.

      Eich chose which view to endorse. And despite his attempts to defend himself, he never addressed that fundamental question.

    31. Re:Am I the only one? by BundesSheep · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's wrong. I should have the right not to work with people who vote for things that might harm me personally. For example, would you want to work with a racist who spends his personal time trying to harm you because of your race?

      I don't mind losing money if it means that someone evil doesn't get more power than they already have.

      You do have the right not to work with those kinds of people. Find another job. Why do you think you should be able to make the other guy leave?

    32. Re:Am I the only one? by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      If I am the one hiring..

    33. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now look here, you racist bigot homophobe, what Bill Clinton does and what homosexuals do in the privacy of their own bed rooms is their own business; and what political issues a CEO of a company donates for or against with his own money is everyone's business and he should be publicly shamed, fired, and run out of society for it. Especially if it's one of those racist bigot homophobe white males!

      We can't have a society where commoners are free to voice their opinions and/or vote according to their world views-- do you want chaos?!

      You better get with the party line-- er-- get with the times. You don't want to be on the wrong side of history do you? I mean come on, the year is 2016!

      You make several good points, ironically.

    34. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *DING* *DING* *DING We have a winner. Of course, the notion that what people do with their own money and time being their business and their business alone only flies if you're doing what SJW's approve of. If not, they will go to the ends of the Earth to make you stop and shut you up.

      Being on the board of directors of a company doesn't mean you're an employee of the company. It means you have a significant stake in it. Anyone can demand a seat on the board of any company provided that you control enough shares. That doesn't mean you have to own them either. That's what proxy fights are all about.

      There's no secret Social Justice Warrior cabal coming up with an agenda. It's based on basic human decency, the kind any three year old child understands. If you find yourself being mercilessly attacked, it's all God's plan, and you need to change your life.

    35. Re:Am I the only one? by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      There's also the difference that Brendan Eich's crusade of hate was actively bringing discredit to Mozilla and was creating a toxic environment at the company. Seriously, if you worked for a company whose CEO had publicly avowed that he hated your living guts and believed your were sub-human and undersizing of the same civil rights of other citizens, I expect it's be a major issue. That hostile of work environment could even be actionable under California law. He clearly had to go.

      Peter Thiel, on the other hand, may be something of a creep. Personally, I find his other company, Palantir, and its enabling of the various three-letter-agencies to attack our privacy and other civil rights to be the biggest problem with him. Seriously... you're going to name your company after the talisman that the Dark Lord Sauron used to corrupt Saurman and Denethor and turn them to evil? W T literal F? But, in this case, he took down Gawker, an organization that was very much more vandalism than journalism and, on its best day ever, was the equivalent of the Weekly World News's reporting on the antics of Bat Boy and the Loch Ness Monster. Not only is no one mourning the loss. More than a few people are celebrating. And it elevates Thiel in the eyes of many. In other words, it brings credit, not discredit, on Facebook to keep him around.

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    36. Re:Am I the only one? by barc0001 · · Score: 2

      Are you seriously trying to equate gun ownership or having an abortion to sexual orientation? I guess people can just choose whether they own guns or not, just like they choose to be gay, right?

      Spoiler alert: People don't CHOOSE to be gay, unlike your choice to buy a gun or have an abortion.

      Pathetic reasoning there, pal.

      > I was unaware that donating $1k to a campaign against same-sex marriage means that they believe 'not everyone is equal'

      Then you must be dumber than a bag of goddamned rocks. Let me spell it out for you. I'll use easy words so you might get it:

      If any two people can get married, they are all equal. If there is a law saying that some people can't marry others, the people who can't marry aren't equal to the ones who can marry. And giving money to a campaign to keep some people from marrying does in fact mean you believe that some people aren't the same - or equal. Because if you believed they were equal you wouldn't want to stand in their way.

    37. Re:Am I the only one? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      FYI, marriage is a religious ceremony. Those against gay marriage aren't against equal rights, they are against a religious ceremony being defined by the state. If you really cared about gay rights, the fight would have been to remove marriage completely from the state and make everyone get a civil union. The civil union was already available to all homosexuals. If you really care about the issue, you should be fighting to make civil unions give the same rights.

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    38. Re:Am I the only one? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah, raping Monica Lewinsky in the oval office was a bit wrong. Lying about it was much worse. Just like Reagan, it isn't the crime, it is the lie.

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    39. Re:Am I the only one? by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      >FYI, marriage is a religious ceremony.

      Really? What religion is being observed when two people go and get married at city hall, or in Vegas at the drive through?

      Religion is a red herring in this and an attempt to shift the goalposts.

    40. Re:Am I the only one? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      http://www.etymonline.com/inde...

      Look into the history of the word.

      Religion is a red herring in this and an attempt to shift the goalposts.

      You mean like shifting the goalposts from civil unions to marriage?

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    41. Re:Am I the only one? by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      History of a word doesn't mean jack shit. Mortgage came from "death contract" after all, but you don't see people expecting to die signing them any more do you?

      Civil unions are called marriages in MANY places, especially government.

      https://omac.saccounty.net/
      http://www.cityclerk.nyc.gov/html/marriage/marriage_bureau.shtml
      http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/life-events/marriages

      Marriage is entirely a secular thing from a legal perspective. So again, quit moving the goalposts.

    42. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Political donations are publicly available to anyone numbnuts

    43. Re:Am I the only one? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I'm not moving the goalposts, the homosexual lobby is moving the goalposts. It wasn't good enough to have Civil Unions allowed, it had to say marriage contract on the sheet of paper. Marriage is a religious ceremony in the Christian church, it is not a secular thing. It doesn't matter if the US has adopted the term, it is still a religious ceremony that the US government has no authority over, so shouldn't be ruling one way or another.

      Freedom of religion is a thing in the US, not freedom from religion.

      If marriage is a secular thing, why did they steal the term, and why is there a distinction between civil unions and marriage?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      http://www.legalmatch.com/law-...

      You are arguing about something from the side of ignorance. You claim that civil unions are the same as marriage, but clearly they aren't or there would be no need for homosexual marriage instead of homosexual civil unions. Civil unions date back to 2000 in the US state of Vermont. Homosexual Marriage is a new thing in the past few years. They are separate things that were supposed to be equal, but never achieved this, but yet rather than fix the issue, marriage was taken away from the Christian churches and forced to be open to homosexuals. Marriage is the term for the ceremony in Christianity, Kiddushin for the contract and Nissu'in or Chupah for the ceremony in Judaism, why not use those terms? The terms in Islam are nikah and zawaj, why not use those? Why take the Christian terms and use them for a civil ceremony with no religious backing?

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    44. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is literally EVERYTHING wrong with homophobia.

      Why are you such a coward?

      You fear something that has nothing to do with you and can not harm you.

      Dumbass

    45. Re:Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are fucking stupid.

      The state gives religious figures the authority to marry people.

      Marriage is a legal contract, period.

  5. Billionaires Gotta Stick Together by Luthair · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Can't have them being accountable to the plebs.

    1. Re:Billionaires Gotta Stick Together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's Gawker who wanted to be able to get away with their crimes and hopes that nobody helps their victims get access to justice.

      The fact that justice is so expensive is not really an excuse for their crimes.

      I mean, they bragged about how they'd publish a sex tape of anyone over 4 in court. Frankly, they belong in jail as they're the types who believe they have some right to violate our privacy for money.

    2. Re: Billionaires Gotta Stick Together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citation needed.

    3. Re: Billionaires Gotta Stick Together by Luthair · · Score: 2

      It's a pretty common belief that the hogan lawsuit would be overturned but the absurd requirement to post the money before being able to appeal makes it difficult.

    4. Re: Billionaires Gotta Stick Together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/03/09/gawker-editor-draws-line-sex-tape-4-year-old.html&ved=0ahUKEwjyo_fS-LfNAhUGVT4KHWVvCLIQFggjMAI&usg=AFQjCNE6psNBFT0TSjwpWO1Q2avSYtTrSg&sig2=MN6nSboQ-G27gpldBmEkzg

    5. Re: Billionaires Gotta Stick Together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then they can get credit on that basis if it's so likely, as the creditors would rather that than bankruptcy.

      Frankly, I want to see the scumbags bankrupted and shut down, though.

    6. Re: Billionaires Gotta Stick Together by Coren22 · · Score: 1
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    7. Re: Billionaires Gotta Stick Together by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      How would it get overturned? They broke the law in Florida (where the case was heard) and many other states.

      http://www.cybercivilrights.or...

      In Florida, what they did is considered a misdemeanor criminal offense and does not require the person doing the action to live in Florida. When they were ordered by the judge to remove the video, and failed to do so, it actually could have become a felony, they should feel lucky they aren't on the way to prison.

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  6. Role in publishing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook's not a publisher. They sell ads and user data, not any kind of publication at all.

    1. Re:Role in publishing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook's not a publisher. They sell ads and user data, not any kind of publication at all.

      This is true, that Facebook does not generate any original material. However, they are an aggregator of information, such as news articles, which sort-of makes them the equivalent of a publisher, since they are able to control which information gets promoted more than others.

  7. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So now we begin the purge of everyone with politics someone doesn't like? Is that how this is going to be? Decades of tolerance, but now we just throw that out the window for modern day purges?

    The lawsuit only bankrupted Gawker because THEY DID WRONG AND IGNORED A COURT ORDER. They also basically admitted to being pedophiles that would publish sex tapes of anyone over FOUR. If they'd faced meritless suits, it'd be Thiel that would run out of money because yes, you can be declared a vexatious litigant and you can be liable for both court costs and reasonable attorneys fees depending on the judge's ruling and the specific type of lawsuit.

    And... let's just ignore that this is exactly what the ACLU, etc. does. I don't see why "help the victims of Gawker" isn't a worthy cause as it fights to protect our privacy rights. But noooo, various scumbags in the media who love to sell out our privacy can't possibly support the idea that they might have to pay for their wrongdoing.

    I hope he sues and bankrupts more scumbag, pedophile media outlets. The world would be a better place if more of them were in the unemployment line.

    1. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nice try Peter

    2. Re:Great by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      I don't have to tolerate someone who does evil. Would you work with someone you knew was a pedophile?

    3. Re:Great by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Good luck finding anyone to work for than. By your own definition, everyone is evil as no one will agree with you on every single issue.

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  8. governance by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I love how all these guys sit on each others' boards of directors. A corporate board is supposed to put shareholders first. Instead, they vote each other huge raises, make sure the C-level execs are compensated like fucking Midas and have a big jerk-off circle when it comes to laying off employees.

    Is there any reason why it should be legal to sit on the board of directors of more than one company?

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    1. Re:governance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

    2. Re:governance by nitehawk214 · · Score: 4, Informative

      When one person controls most of the shares, being self serving IS serving the shareholders. At least the one that matters.

      Of course, this means people with non-voting shares or minority stakes had better be on board with whatever the person in charge wants to do.

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    3. Re: governance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want government deciding how a board should be made up? Maybe if you don't like the people on a particular board don't become a shareholder? Sell your shares, make a competitor. Zuckerberg owes you nothing.

    4. Re: governance by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      You want government deciding how a board should be made up?

      No. I'm just suggesting that sitting on more than one board creates an inherent conflict of interest.

      Zuckerberg owes you nothing.

      Actually, Zuckerberg owes shareholder about $2.8billion.

      https://ycharts.com/companies/...

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    5. Re: governance by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Scratch that. Zuckerberg owes shareholders closer to $50 billion.

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    6. Re:governance by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 2

      Yes. If you have relevant expertise for both companies and both companies are willing to have you, then go for it. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it should be illegal.

      If you think what they're doing is immoral, don't support that company.

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    7. Re:governance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mark doesn't control most of the shares. Recently Facebook made changes to their stocks so that common stock people can purchase have no voting power at all and increased voting power for stocks Mark owns

    8. Re:governance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you being purposefully deceptive, pedantic, or just ignorant?

    9. Re:governance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We need to change the laws where shareholders are not the primary concern. Following the law and not abusing the general public should be first.

      Some countries do that but here in America it is considered okay to kill people as long as the profits doing so exceed the fines and lawsuits and the government has set it up to ensure that any bad behavior is profitible.

      You will never see a fine from corporate bad behavior exceed more than 20% or so of the profit from said bad behavoir.

    10. Re: governance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you completely fail to grasp how stocks and corporations work.

    11. Re: governance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want government deciding how a board should be made up?

      Maybe you weren't aware of it, but corporations are artificial constructs that don't exist except through a charter granted by the government based on an expectation of some kind of benefit to society. There's a reasonable argument to be made that government has some say in how they're run. If you don't like that, you're always welcome to form a sole prop or partnership and put your own money on the line instead of the corporation's.

    12. Re:governance by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      He owns 24%, but he has 60% of the votes, so he controls 60%.

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    13. Re:governance by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Non voting shares have no control of anything. If one person has more than 50% of the votes, they have more than 50% of control.

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    14. Re:governance by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      He owns 24%, but he has 60% of the votes, so he controls 60%.

      You just explained why it's bad that these billionaire CEOs all sit on each others' boards of directors.

      http://www.investopedia.com/ar...

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    15. Re:governance by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      No one was forced to buy non voting shares or shares with less of a vote than Zuck's shares.

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    16. Re:governance by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      I agree. People buying non-voting shares and are suddenly unhappy about how Zuck runs the company are suckers.

      But my original argument is that Zuck controls the company. No amount of non-voting shares will change that.

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    17. Re:governance by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I agree. People buying non-voting shares and are suddenly unhappy about how Zuck runs the company are suckers.

      Well, see, here's what happened in the case of Facebook. People bought voting shares. The board votes to create bunch of new shares that have greater voting power and gift those shares to themselves and Zuckerberg, thus diluting the voting rights of the original shareholders. So, it's not just the non-voting shareholders who get screwed.

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  9. That aside by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was a valid lawsuit. I could see hating on someone if they were funding a long, drug out, suit with lots of delay tactics over nothing to try and force a settlement or bankrupt the other side. However the Hogan suit went to trial, and Hogan won in short order.

    I don't see anything bad with someone funding a legitimate suit.

    1. Re:That aside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      I completely agree that showing Hogan's naked ass for 6 entire seconds is definitely worth $140 million dollars... *cough*... and it's not at all that the reduction in Hogan's "brand" was due to his virulent racism and not about 6 seconds of crappy video of his naked ass.

    2. Re:That aside by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would seriously consider paying $140M to not see Hogan's naked ass.

    3. Re:That aside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I completely agree that showing Hogan's naked ass for 6 entire seconds is definitely worth $140 million dollars... *cough*... and it's not at all that the reduction in Hogan's "brand" was due to his virulent racism and not about 6 seconds of crappy video of his naked ass.

      Hey guess who it was was who claimed that Hogan was racist, and have also never proved it?
      Oh shit, is it Gawker who he sued and won? Why yes, it is!

  10. Voting power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zuckerberg, who controls more than 60 percent of the total voting power

    so... he controls 100% of the voting power then

  11. Re:Democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know only shareholders get a vote right? 1 share = 1 vote, 10 shares = 10 votes.

  12. Screw Gawker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    J-Law n00dz = horrible invasion of privacy. Burn down the Internet!
    Hulk's sex tape = fun for the whole family. We will not be censored!

    1. Re:Screw Gawker by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      It all depends on who publishes them first.
      If it's 4chan it's horrible. If it's a tabloid it's amazing.

  13. Re:Democracy by DRJlaw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ah, democracy at it's best. Dozens, hundreds, thousands, or millions vote, but so few votes matter.

    Perhaps it's time for a better voting system, you know, like one that actually gives everyone more than just a "say"? Maybe one that gives everyone some actual influence?

    It's not a democracy, it's a corporation that offered shares to the public on its own terms, and the public bought them.

    Those shares were offered with full disclosure that there were multiple classes of shares with different voting powers. Anyone who bought Facebook shares thinking that they could outvote Zuckerberg, prior to him selling a sufficient number of control-voting shares third parties to lose his majority voting power, was simply fooling themselves.

  14. Re:Democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Ah, democracy at it's best."

    Ah, misplaced apostrophe at its best. it's means it is.

  15. Re:Democracy by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    Sometimes shares have different voting power. I doubt Zuck has 60% of the shares by worth.

  16. Re:Democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty sure you meant to capitalize the first letter on that last sentence bruh

  17. He did admit it by dlenmn · · Score: 1

    The article may simply cite a third party, but Thiel did admit it in an interview.

  18. When pressed on the matter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    When pressed on the matter, Mark Zuckerberg stated simply, "I felt like, you know, it's way less horrible than the stuff we do as a company at Facebook, so if anything, we should be giving him more responsibilities."

  19. Zuckerberg by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Just look at the way any company that Zuckerberg gets involved in abuses its own customers. Really what did you expect?

  20. Of course by corwinsr · · Score: 1

    Why wouldn't you want to keep an adult that behaves like a pouty, selfish, vindictive child?

    1. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should probably go hang out with your fellow Jezebel harpies while you still can.

  21. "We're just a news organization who did no wrong by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

    but this big bad evil billionaire wants to bankrupt us to silence the press!"

    Pretty much sums it up.

  22. Re:Democracy by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

    Facebook has three classes of shares:

    Class A-- held by most of the public, one vote per share
    Class B-- held by company insiders, ten votes per share
    Class C-- to be issued in the future, zero votes per share.

    This structure will allow Zuckerberg to issue as many shares as he wants, without diluting his ownership of the company.

    source

  23. Hero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Peter Thiel is a hero of the people, helping take down a brutal thug that did nothing but chase ambulances and try to profit off the sorrow of others.

  24. Alternatives by phorm · · Score: 1

    Maybe we need an alternative. This brings me to an idea for a new project: a kickstarter of sorts, but for lawsuits! Rather than let semi-anonymous billionaires fund lawsuits against the scummy corps we all hate, we can do so through group funding. It's like a class-action but gets around those pesky EULA clauses forbidding such.

    1. Re: Alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's actually kind of a brilliant idea. Wonder how it would fair in reality.

  25. oh come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    close your parenthesis!

  26. calling shenanigans by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

    Slashdot has no problem with Eric Schmit campaigning for Mrs. Clinton or with google never autocompleting to "Crooked Hillary" or with Apple refusing to support one of the party's conventions, but it has a big problem when a tech figure supports the other side.

    Are slashdotters trying to be techie hacks or political hacks?

  27. Re:Democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I told them of 300,000 companies, maybe down to 100,000 once things got serious, one of them being... Facebook. That was the tonic since more than 12 years ago. No one paid attention! So you all traded 100,000 companies for ONE web page generator and insist in keeping things the way they are. I do not expect this to be published, nearly NOTHING I write here gets published. These articles are tactical in the strategy of becoming VERY technical regarding corporations and money when all these ones needed was snatch a hard drive with the code in it.

  28. Re:Democracy by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    Do you have a better system of governance? The Federal Republic system of the US was better than any that came before where the people had no power, and has been better than other systems since, but if you come up with a better system, I am sure everyone will follow your lead.

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  29. Re:Democracy by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    How about a 49% minority gets their way 49% of the time? How's that for basic math? You know, like when you share a hotel room with someone -- you alternate preferences. And when you share a hotel room with two others, you don't just screw the one guy who disagrees with his two friends. 2-to-1 means twice then once. It's not complicated.

    What would your current voting system do with a two-person 50/50 slrit, each and every time? You can recount until you're blue in the face. It's a tie. What then?

  30. Re:Democracy by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    I doubt it is even possible for a presidential candidate to get 269 electoral votes to tie for the presidency. Or did you think the popular vote elected presidents?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    That video appears to tell you what happens in a tie situation, if it were to ever happen.

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  31. Re:Democracy by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    Cool vid; well spoken.

    My comment regarding ties was a reductive argument. I believe that general procedures should cover special cases, as opposed to special cases being handled through exceptions. Since the current counting of votes doesn't handle a tie, I think it's a terrible system all-around.

  32. Re:Democracy by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    "Since the current counting of votes doesn't handle a tie, I think it's a terrible system all-around."

    So if a system doesn't handle all edge cases, it's no good?

    It's all well and good to sit around and think of every single possible thing that can go wrong with a system, eventually you have to do a risk/cost benefit and say, well, we did our best.

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  33. Re:Democracy by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    Ok, every day for 12 hours and 5 minutes, we'll let the majority run things. Then for 11 hours and 55 minutes, the minority.

    Sounds fair.

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  34. Re:Democracy by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    I think maybe percentage of the term would make sense. The 10% winner might get the last 4 months at the end of the 4 years, for example. With the 3 and a half years to prepare, and get things lined up, 4 months would be very productive..