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You Are Still Watching a Staggering Amount Of TV Every Day (recode.net)

Peter Kafka, reporting for Recode:TV! It's cooked! Toast! Doneso. Ready for the fork. Except not yet, because Americans are still watching a ton of TV, every day. For some of them, it's the equivalent of a full-time job. The average American watches an astonishing 4.5 hours of TV a day, according to a new report from Nielsen. Add in DVR time, and that number gets up to 5 hours a day. That usage is shrinking over time -- a couple of years ago, Americans were averaging five hours and twenty-three minutes a day.Nielsen's data also shows that people are now consuming more content on their smartphone devices than ever. Compared to just 47 minutes usage in 2014, it is now up to one hour and 39 minutes.

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  1. in before... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In before this guy posts:
    http://www.theonion.com/article/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel-429

    1. Re:in before... by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's nothing, I don't even have Internet!

      Starting right no%$@#^YY%$#WA=NO CARRIER

    2. Re: in before... by WarJolt · · Score: 3, Funny

      Internet goes out and so does my TV. When I can pry the remote away it goes right to amazon and netflix. The shows remaining on cable suck. The demographic remaining on cable is clearly to blame, you guys watch some dumb shit.

    3. Re:in before... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I do own TVs, but our cable broke a couple of years ago, and I couldn't be arsed to get it fixed. Admittedly, there's just the wife and I with the dog, but no one seemed to care.

      When we moved, we got internet service, but not cable. It hasn't really changed much.

      You might suggest that we watch shows on Netflix or Hulu and on YouTube or something, and that's true, but only very occasionally. I don't think I've watched a single show regularly in years.

      That said, I occupy my time with lots and lots of video games and a fair amount of socialization, so it's not like I'm not ingesting some sort of content to keep me occupied for hours on end, its just that I prefer my content be more or less interactive. It has given me the time to play some stupidly detailed games, so there is that.

      I have nothing against TV, and when there are some really good shows on, I like watching them. I suppose I just get tired of good shows either being cancelled too soon, or lasting just a bit too long or being meddled with. I have a lot of respect for shows that tell a story, finish it up well, and don't try and milk it for all it is worth if they have a winning formula. I figure that some series I will be watching when they're done and complete and I know they weren't complete disappointments at the end.

    4. Re:in before... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      VR glasses that you can hook to your phone are going to drive a major change and not the crappy clunky ones you buy now. Smartly designed ones you buy at the optometrists, where you have the ideal lenses specifically ground and fitted, that are slipped in the VR glasses (gone are the bulky adjustable poorly shaped lenses, circular, I mean really?) to keep them as compact and light as possible. Forget the stupid googles, a simple slip on foam shroud fits over the glasses to produce a light seal between the glasses and you face with just enough elastic banding to slip over the back of you head, to pull tight and create that light weight visual seal (when you want to use it, probably wont use it, just the VR glasses alone, when you are travelling on public transport, shrouds will be cheap and disposable) and help retain the light weight VR glasses. Phone content consumption will surge when you can readily fit a big screen TV in your other pocket, one for the phone and one for your big screen.

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  2. 4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by kheldan · · Score: 2

    If I'm lucky, I have enough downtime to actually sit and watch a whole hour a day, and that's while I'm eating dinner. If I didn't have a DVR, it wouldn't even be that much. Where is it that anyone these days hase 4.5 hours of free time to sit in front of a television?

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    1. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I'm lucky, I have enough downtime to actually sit and watch a whole hour a day, and that's while I'm eating dinner. If I didn't have a DVR, it wouldn't even be that much. Where is it that anyone these days hase 4.5 hours of free time to sit in front of a television?

      For me to average even an hour a night would take some planning in itself. I've read before that these numbers are seriously skewed by the elderly (especially in nursing homes), hospital rooms, and the unemployed. If these groups were compensated for I wonder what the average would truly be.

    2. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Basic 9 to 5 job only, out the door even if there's work to be done (ie, not an engineer). Home by 6, flip on the TV to watch the news, sports, Jeopardy, then whatever MustWatchTV series of the day. Meanwhile one spouse is at home with a kid, TV is on by 10am, with kids programs, left running during the soaps while doing housework or napping, etc.

      Basically outside of Silicon Valley where you don't need both spouses working just to afford a house, it's much more common for one to be at home most of the day.

    3. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by Howitzer86 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      TV, YouTube, whatever. I watch plenty and I'm no better.

      I do pay taxes though, I'm just not an executive at work nor a patriarch of a large family, so I can just do whatever after work. Tonight I'm writing the second half of a presentation for a local game dev enthusiast group that meets up once a month. Other times I spend it drawing, writing, 3d modeling, or programming. In any case, it's important to me that I have this time, because I can use it to grow and maintain my skills no matter what I do at work, or just relax if I need to. You know, normal well-adjusted human stuff.

    4. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But then again, I don't live in the work yourself to death Murica

      Nobody does, that place is a strawman.

    5. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      I could get 6 hours a day if all I did was work and watch TV. The most TV I watch in a sitting is Saturday cartoons with the kids while my coffee kicks in so I can make breakfast. If I sit for longer then two hours I start to get frigidity and have to get up and do something.

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    6. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by rock_climbing_guy · · Score: 1

      Yes, they do. I have sat right next to people who live in work yourself to death Murica.

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    7. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      I wonder what the median would be... we usually watch about an hour in the evening once we get the kids to bed. I can't imagine watching 4.5 hours. Even when we had a newborn and no energy to do anything but sit in front of the TV, 2 hours (or a little over for a movie) was about as much as we ever did.

    8. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by sexconker · · Score: 1

      What fantasy are you living in?
      The "9 to 5" job has been 8 to 5 for ages, with a 1 hour lunch break and two 15 minute breaks that no one takes.
      Most people get up at 7 and get home at 6 or later.

    9. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that doesn't include commuting time either which averages to 50 minutes round trip per day. So figure 10 hours per day working for a normal "8 hour" work day. Assuming 8 hours of recommended sleep time, that only leave 6 more hours in the day. The average american needs a hobby...

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    10. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by microTodd · · Score: 1
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    11. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by MitchDev · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do they count "Doing something else but have the TV on in the background"?

    12. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      I have a TV, but I sure as shit don't watch 4.5 hours a day. When I do watch something it's usually a movie, maybe ~90 minutes or so, maybe once or twice a month on average. I just have other things I'd rather do. If other people want to watch TV all day long, more power to them, I have no problem with it.

      I am curious though, who are these people who are glued to their TVs??

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    13. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      They have one. TV.

    14. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. Those are the best kind. The subliminal advertising works best if you think you're not paying attention.

    15. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by WinstonWolfIT · · Score: 1

      The complete lack of sunlight and exercise is normal?

    16. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by jandrese · · Score: 3

      It depends how they actually count the hours too. If it just counts time when the TV is on, but people may or may not be in the room the number is going to be greatly inflated compared to hours of TV people actively watched. I know lots of people who leave the TV on all day even as they go about their business just to have some background noise in the house. Personally I've never seen the appeal, but it's apparently comforting to people.

      DVR hours should count much more since they presumably represent someone sitting down and selecting a show to watch. But even then I've seen plenty of cases where the TV is left on while someone reads Facebook or plays a game or does some paperwork.

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    17. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      That is probably more of a personal choice than an actual job requirement.

      I tend to work until 9-10pm, but then, I come in at 10-11am after all of the traffic has been dealt with. On the occasions that I do have to come in by 9, I get first hand experience of how much better my life is by not having to follow the herd.

      I am pretty lucky I can get away with it though. Being in tech does sometimes have advantages.

    18. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      If you work in a union shop on the clock, you take those breaks on-time and whether you like it or not. The hour lunch is fine, but I recall not knowing what the heck to do with my 15 minute break except sit at the picnic table in the break room and stare at some newspapers. Not saying that the break was not welcome, but I suppose I'd prefer a little flexibility.

      Now, most of the jobs I have worked the last 20 years since the union job, you generally work more, but you're more free to take time off. As one of my long-ago co-workers said, "Exempt from overtime" sometimes means you work less than 40 hours too. You just have to ensure that you know how to manage it.

    19. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by jtroy92 · · Score: 2

      Where is it that anyone these days has 4.5 hours of free time to sit in front of a television?

      I hate to say it, but retirees in Florida certainly do...I've witnessed it first hand after moving there to help my parents take care of my grandmother. From the time their feet hit the ground until it's time for bed, they've got Fox News on. Next door neighbors...Fox News. Barber shop...Fox News. The gym, the bars, the blood donation facility...basically anyplace with a TV. It's all the same, it's non-stop, and it's disturbing. And my experience doesn't seem to be unique:

      http://www.salon.com/2014/02/2...

      The article of the OP gives a demographic breakdown by age. The 65-and-up crowd watch almost 3x the amount of TV as the 18-24 year olds. A large part of this might be the result of an addiction.

    20. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      That describes my day... 8 to 5 eat at my desk with how every many 5 minute breaks to pee, get a cup of coffee, etc...

    21. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by shortscruffydave · · Score: 1

      Yep. I rarely have time to watch TV as a primary activity. I sometimes have it on as an accompaniment, say breakfast time news while I'm getting ready for work in the morning, The thought of racking up 4.5 hours screen time per day seems like a dreadful waste of time to me

    22. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by houghi · · Score: 1

      DVR hours should count much less since they presumably represent someone sitting down and skipping the ads.

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    23. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by Raedwald · · Score: 1

      I have enough downtime to actually sit and watch a whole hour a day

      The definition of "watching" used for TV ratings is "in the same room as a TV when it is switched on". So your amount of viewing would come to more than the one hour per day you think of as "watching".

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    24. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by Raedwald · · Score: 1

      Do they count "Doing something else but have the TV on in the background"?

      Yes. The definition of "watching" used for TV ratings is "in the same room as a TV when it is switched on".

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    25. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      Wow, they are desperate...

    26. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by kheldan · · Score: 1

      In the case of the elderly, considering how they're on average treated here in the U.S. (or at least my perception of it), having the television on might be something done to try to mitigate feelings of being isolated from other people, especially if they have a hard time getting around physically, thus leaving the house is a problem.

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    27. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by lokedhs · · Score: 1

      What fantasy are you living in? Here, rush hour doesn't even start until 18:00.

    28. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by lokedhs · · Score: 1

      The fact that the expression "binge-watch" actually exists ought to tell you something

      I have a hard time watching any TV-series where each episode doesn't have a conclusion, since I can't watch something for more than about an hour straight. Seems like viewers of modern TV-series treat them as single 25-hour movies.

    29. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      frigidity (adjective) - to become distant or cold and restless.

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    30. Re:4.5 hours a day? That's really sad. by Howitzer86 · · Score: 1

      I like to take walks and I do go to the gym occasionally. My post didn't exclude that, so I don't know how you came to this conclusion.

  3. "You"? No.... "some", even perhaps "many". by mark-t · · Score: 2

    The headline would appear to direct the assessment it makes about those who read the article, but I read the story and I only watch about 5 hours a week. I may not be typical, but then the headline still uses the second person pronoun.

  4. DEC Tag? by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the heck does this have to do with the Digital Equipment Corporation?

    1. Re:DEC Tag? by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Is DEC still even around? I vote that Slashdot takes down the DEC logo since the editors seem to be too young to understand that Digital is/was a company. Putting their logo on this story is as pointless as putting Apple's logo on a story about fruits vendors on street corners.

    2. Re:DEC Tag? by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      What the heck does this have to do with the Digital Equipment Corporation?

      Because these youngsters don't even remember/know that DEC was a company so when they see the "digital" tag they associate it with some sort of digital system like streaming digital content off the internet.

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    3. Re:DEC Tag? by ShaunC · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'll have you know I'm streaming 12 hours of Netflix on my Alpha every day!

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    4. Re:DEC Tag? by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

      average American watches an astonishing 4.5 hours of TV a day

      What the heck does this have to do with the Digital Equipment Corporation?

      "It's all connected. You're seeing the fish flopping, it's the fish flopping. I'm telling you weird stuff like this happens just before the tsunami. When rivers run backwards that should be a warning sign. Next birds will fly backwards and people will just grunt at it, if tomorrows a decent down day, look out next week. I got a tingly feeling here, tingly like as in people are turning in expectations, this could get ugly..."

      Saw this on an Internet forum once and it comes to mind at odd moments, usually when someone asks a zesty question in conjunction with an insipid factoid. Stir, give a shake and a twist of lime to make a conspiracy cocktail.

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    5. Re:DEC Tag? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Because these youngsters don't even remember/know that DEC was a company so when they see the "digital" tag they associate it with some sort of digital system like streaming digital content off the internet.

      Given the demise of DEC, I've been seeing their logo literally everywhere - seems once the trademark expired, everyone googles for "digital logo" and up it pops, trademark free.

      I've seen it on "digital" music effects boxes as well...

    6. Re:DEC Tag? by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      It's not conspiracy but willful ignorance.

    7. Re:DEC Tag? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      They were picked up by Compaq a long time ago, and then HP bought Compaq.

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  5. Nielsen Wants You to Think They Are Still Relevant by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The fact of the matter is that they have been struggling for years to keep pace with the barrage of new video consumption choices Americans have. They still don't have a handle on it. And there are many in the broadcast/cable industry who uphold they never really had a good grasp (Those diaries! seriously...?) of who was watching what. Their customers are the broadcasters, not, say YouTube channels or Twitch feeds, so they will always have that bias...

  6. yeah, it's on alright by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    but not "watching" it. background/white noise.

  7. No, I'm not. by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

    Please stop generalizing.

    1. Re:No, I'm not. by magarity · · Score: 2

      Please stop generalizing.

      With regards to "your" television watching habits, or just in general?

    2. Re:No, I'm not. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Everybody's a special snowflake.

  8. No TV for over 15 years now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I pretty much have no idea what's going on in the world of media. I can't even name one movie that's in theatres. And I fucking LOVE IT.

    1. Re:No TV for over 15 years now by Holi · · Score: 4, Funny

      ^^^^^ Yep, It's that guy ^^^^^^

      http://www.theonion.com/articl...

      We were waiting for you.

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    2. Re:No TV for over 15 years now by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Funny

      I pretty much have no idea what's going on in the world of media. I can't even name one movie that's in theatres. And I fucking LOVE IT.

      The jokes on you. Movie theaters went into decline about 10 years ago when the media companies figured out how to beam information straight into peoples brains. The last mainstream megaplex theatre closed down about 5 years ago, but you can still find some operating as museums where you can take the kids to experience "talkies" like your parents used to do.

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    3. Re:No TV for over 15 years now by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      I like how being less of a nerd is somehow a status symbol.

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    4. Re:No TV for over 15 years now by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      I had a professor that gave up TV, he moved out to a commune and hadn't watch TV for 10 years. His dated TV references were top notch.

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  9. yeah, my kids are on youtube by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

    my wife hates it and wants them to watch story based TV shows. but now that i remember i didn't much like that crap in the 80's either. it was just mindless time killing because we only had a few channels and no choice what to watch

    1. Re:yeah, my kids are on youtube by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      My kids keep wanting to watch YouTube videos but my problem isn't with them watching more story-based shows, but the quality of random YouTube channels. For example, they love watching people playing video games (either ones they own to get tips/tricks on gameplay or ones they know I'll never buy them because we just don't have enough money to buy every game ever released). There are some great gamer YouTube channels, but also ones where the video starts innocently enough but then delves into language that my wife and I think are inappropriate for a 9 year old and an almost-13 year old. (In the latter case, he's on the Autism spectrum and might take "person says X on YouTube" as a social cue that saying "X" is fine in a school setting - when, in fact, it will get him in severe trouble. He's almost-13 chronologically, about 15 intellectually, but only 8 or 9 socially/emotionally.)

      Our solution is to have a firm "channel pre-approval requirement." If the boys want to watch a YouTube channel, they need to tell me which channel and wait for me to watch a few of the videos (without them present). Once I do, I'll tell them whether the channel is fine or not. This doesn't stop them from searching and playing random YouTube channels, but it gives us a consistent household policy.

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    2. Re:yeah, my kids are on youtube by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      yeah, i know all about FGEETV as well. back in the 80's all this crap was pushed in magazines you had to buy so nothing has really changed.

  10. I watch a fair bit of YouTube, other online things by caseih · · Score: 2

    There is some amazing content being put on Youtube these days. Watching various makers and machinists on youtube is fascinating stuff for some of us. Or the guy building a 74-foot steel chinese junk in Oklahoma! Between them and the science channels I track, I watch about 30 minutes of youtube each evening.

    I also often watch episodes of classic TV shows in the evening, British and American, often from various internet sources.

    That does add up, though. Maybe 30-60 minutes a day. Not sure what people are watching to get 4.5 hours a day though! What's actually on TV these days?

  11. Fucking stop with the DEC logo by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Editors: You have no clue as to what "Digital" or DEC even has to do with technology. Take two minutes and read Wikipedia article first. This is doing nothing but insulting your dwindling reader base.

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    1. Re:Fucking stop with the DEC logo by mister_playboy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Here you go, editors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    2. Re:Fucking stop with the DEC logo by Yvan256 · · Score: 1
  12. Re:Does that count people like me? by maliqua · · Score: 1

    who cares? what's that have to do with anything....

  13. Breakdown of Stats by Amtrak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would be really interesting to see some sort of demographic break down on those TV numbers regarding things like income level, geographical location, employment, etc. I have a gut feeling that TV viewing has gone up in some demographics and down in others. Honestly I don't even know many people who watch more than 4.5 hours of TV a week much less a day. But most of my friends play video games instead of watch tv so it's not like we have any stones to throw about sitting on the couch to much.

  14. That is a HUGE jump up from Yesterday by ScienceofSpock · · Score: 1

    Yesterday, the average American watched 3 hours of TV per day. Today, it's 4.5 hours. They both can't be right, so which is it?

    1. Re:That is a HUGE jump up from Yesterday by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Sure they can! It depends on what's on.

    2. Re:That is a HUGE jump up from Yesterday by sexconker · · Score: 1

      No yesterday it was 3 hours and 15 minutes. Game of Thrones was 15 minutes longer than usual.

    3. Re:That is a HUGE jump up from Yesterday by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      The Game of Thrones finale was on yesterday.

  15. Re:Nielsen Wants You to Think They Are Still Relev by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    The fact of the matter is that they have been struggling for years to keep pace with the barrage of new video consumption
    choices Americans have.

    Streaming services like Netflix have a perfect idea as to what people are watching. But I have a vague recollection that they don't publicly release their stats.

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  16. I am finding that I like it more by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

    I had completely written off normal OTA TV until recently.

    Here is my entertainmentflow these days:

    - Is there anything in my Hulu queue?
    - Is there any episodes left in my current series binge on Netflix or Amazon?
    - Is there any good PBS shows on OTA (Frontline, Downton Abby, etc)?
    - Watch Buzzr (old game shows) on OTA and play WoW

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  17. Let Me Tell You About Neilsen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Those assholes came to my door once asking if I would like to be a "Nielsen" household. They went over the details, and even offered money for the bother.

    Let me tell you, whatever they offer, it is not worth it. They come in and connect a comm closet full of equipment to your TV so they can intercept whatever video is being fed to your TV. That would be fine, except their equipment causes all kinds of compatibility issues. They also insist on installing their software on any PC you watch streaming services on. That would also be fine, except their software also collects your non-media browsing habits, and has a keylogger so I can only assume they steal your passwords as well (I only installed their SW in a virtual machine).

    But that's just the tip of the iceberg. I told these guys that I rarely watch TV. Perhaps once every couple of weeks when I'm too tired to do something more valuable with my time.

    If you don't watch TV for 24 hours, the phone rings. If you don't watch TV for 48 hours, the phone rings every 30 minutes until you answer. They harass you CONSTANTLY to watch more TV. After 5 days they actually send someone to your home to find out why you're not watching TV.

    When you _are_ watching TV, you have to hit control buttons on their box every half an hour or so, or the harassment increases.

    After about 2 weeks I called them up and told them to come get their shit off my front porch.

    1. Re:Let Me Tell You About Neilsen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And here we have another one that doesn't know he was actually talking to the FBI all that time.

    2. Re:Let Me Tell You About Neilsen by sexconker · · Score: 1

      The trick is to tell them you don't have a landline phone. You fill out a survey by hand and mail it back at the end of the reporting period.

    3. Re:Let Me Tell You About Neilsen by sdguero · · Score: 1

      I hear you. I agreed to let them monitor our activity but during the initial setup over the phone they started bemoaning about streaming video to my chromebook and trying to say that I can't play video files form my personal library over my network via kodi (vs streaming from the web), so I said forget about it. You'd have to be really hard up for money and not tech savvy at all to work inside their monitoring program successfully.

    4. Re:Let Me Tell You About Neilsen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You may be surprised to learn that Nielsen has a variety of panels in addition to the one you participated in.

      The first one, TV Diary, is as simple as writing down what you watch in a paper journal and mailing it back. If you ever get postal mail from Nielsen, open it, there's probably cash inside. If you return a completed diary they'll send you more money.

      It sounds like you participated in the panel they call TV Meter. You were given what's called a "Portable People Meter" which works as you described, using hidden tones to figure out who's watching what. They should have come to visit a couple times a year. You wouldn't have been paid much, but the plus side is you don't really have to do anything.

      There are other, much more immersive panels. If you were only participating in TV Meter, nothing was connected directly to your equipment, no software was required on your PC, and scanning the UPC labels of your purchases was optional.

      At some levels of what's called the Homescan panel, these things aren't optional anymore and if you agree to be a panelist you have to accept the whole shebang. The People Meters aren't portable, one gets hooked directly to each television in the home, and each one has a special remote control. When you turn on a TV, you have to tell the People Meter which family member you are. You may or may not be assigned additional Portable People Meters and be required to wear them all day so they can recognize radio stations being played in your car, workplace, etc. Software is required to be installed on each PC in the home, and you are required to scan UPC barcodes of the items you purchase. (The latter portion is more lenient and nothing happens if you don't scan everything. Nielsen doesn't come around asking why the household never buys tampons even though you have two teenage daughters.)

      The more immersive panels pay more, and come with additional benefits. For example, Nielsen may buy you a new television at some point during your participation, to gauge if and how such a change impacts your viewing habits.

  18. Re:I watch a fair bit of YouTube, other online thi by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I concur. I just got done watching a fascinating NOVA series on human evolution.

    Upright walking apes seem to have had been around for roughly 4 million years, at least, with small chimp-like brains and NOT using (shaped) stone tools. They probably still used trees to escape from predators. There were several species and it was a viable niche; and for 4 million years these creatures remained mostly as-is.

    But around 2 million years ago the climate of Africa started swinging wildly. This appears to have favored bigger brains and stone-tool-makers, and stone tools and larger brains began appearing in the fossil record. Thus, ironically, humans appear to be the product of climate change. (Brains are metabolically expensive, so big brains have to justify themselves.)

  19. Re:"You"? No.... "some", even perhaps "many". by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    I don't know what I count as. I only willingly watch maybe a couple of movies per week, so 3-5 hours. However, the kids usually watch a little around dinner time, and the wife has it on almost constantly from 7-11 p.m. I try to ignore it, but if I'm in the room I'll find myself staring at it some and struggling to get other things done. Call me a TV hostage, I guess?

  20. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by dejitaru · · Score: 2

    So they're like the vegans of technology? no wait... those are ones without cellphones/smartphones... ok, the vegans of media... I guess..

  21. Re:Nielsen Wants You to Think They Are Still Relev by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2

    Exactly right, Netflix does not reveal it, and why should they? And HBO knows exactly how many people are watching their shows through HBO Go. The content owners of the so-called Over-The-Top distribution of video programming have a granular and Nielsen-free handle on those numbers.

  22. TV OD! by TarPitt · · Score: 1
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  23. Down from 5.5 hours to 5... by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    ...because more people are watching videos on Netflix and Amazon, skipping the ads. Since there are about 20 minutes of ads per hour, I'd guess that the time spent watching actual CONTENT is UP.

  24. How averages work by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

    You do understand that an average of 4.5 hours a day means that out of six people, one has the set on 24 hours a day, and the other nine have it on for an hour a day.
    And I know some of those people who have the thing on 24 hours a day. I don't think that they even know where the off switch is-- I don't think they even know that it has an off switch

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    1. Re:How averages work by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Funny

      You do understand that an average of 4.5 hours a day means that out of six people, one has the set on 24 hours a day, and the other nine have it on for an hour a day.

      So, out of six people, one watches all the time, and the other NINE watch a bit? Seriously, out of six people, the one + nine watch it??

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    2. Re:How averages work by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Quite a number of people have the TV on just to give some background noise - a cheesy soap opera is better than silence.

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  25. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by MitchDev · · Score: 2

    They generate high levels of "Smug".

    They just watch TV on their computers, smartphones, and tablets, but they feel superior because they can say "I don't watch TV"

    They should be killed on sight....

  26. This study includes all downloaded video by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Plenty of people watch various net videos like youtube or porn, but dont consider it television.

    1. Re:This study includes all downloaded video by pla · · Score: 1

      In fairness, at least we can consider porn a bit of mild exercise...

  27. Re:Does that count people like me? by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

    To be hypocritical, this describes the history arc of slashdot. 6/9 front page stories are about people right now.

  28. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

    No, we just hate smug people that can't wait to tell us they don't watch television, and how they're so glad they don't watch television, and how much better they are because they don't watch television.

    Watch it or don't, I don't care. But don't preach about it, because doing so just makes you a smug asshat.

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  29. Yeah that's average by aepervius · · Score: 1

    Young people => no tv. Old people => stuck before their tv. No surprise. This is also why the average lower with time : old people aren't eternal and youngling do not pick up their tv habits.

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  30. Petfinder is just a blind for the egg council. by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    oh man, and how

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  31. Re:...ok, and? by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    Sitting around a campfire is two way communication. You learn more about the people around you (probably your friends) and they about you. Watching tv is similar to a game where some company tries to convince you to buy their stuff while you have to convince yourself not to buy it.

  32. Hard limits by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    I have 3-4 hours after work. Total! I divide that between TV, Internet, feeding my face, and other crap. I probably see about an hour or 2 of TV, and that includes Netflix.

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  33. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They generate high levels of "Smug".

    They just watch TV on their computers, smartphones, and tablets, but they feel superior because they can say "I don't watch TV"

    They should be killed on sight....

    How about you just go back to watching your "I Love Lucy" reruns on TV and leave the rest of to watch (or not watch) whatever the hell we want, whether it be on a TV or a tablet or whatever. Would that work for you?

  34. I think you mean my cat watches TV by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I just have it on as background noise. The cat is watching it.

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  35. Re:Nielsen Wants You to Think They Are Still Relev by Hylandr · · Score: 2

    Not to mention Nielsen ratings are only valid for the demographic that participates in Nielsen ratings.

    There's more to the consumption pie than the Nielson participants can possibly represent.

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  36. 4,5 Hours? by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

    Who the hell has time for that?
    As a average it sounds terrible, I suppose some people have the TV on from the time they come home until they go to bed?

    1. Re:4,5 Hours? by j2.718ff · · Score: 1

      While I can't watch that much TV, I do frequently half-watch shows. I'll have the TV on while doing something else. If the show is particularly interesting, I'll pay attention. But if it isn't, then it just ends up as background noise.

  37. You you you by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    You -

    Done. Fuck clickbait. Humanity is not a single homogenous mass. We are all individuals (except that guy).

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  38. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Funny

    I could have watched TV last night, but instead I shot nazi zombies. This is how TV dies. One zombie at a time.

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  39. No I am not by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    But I spend too much time on Slashdot.

  40. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  41. "You" by epine · · Score: 1

    You Are Still Watching a Staggering Amount Of TV Every Day

    How about the following?

    Collectively, Americans Still Watch a Staggering Amount Of TV Every Day

    Yeah, it's not perfect either, but the original version is already wrong after the first word.

    Couldn't stupidity pinch its wee-wee for three whole words until we get to "watch"—whatever that actually means when the viewer is sitting on the couch with a baby, an iPhone, an iPad, some weed, and a small stack of medical disability claim forms.

  42. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by epyT-R · · Score: 2

    Perhaps that's part of why certain political views are held in esteem while others are demonized without a rational basis. People let tv tell them what they're 'supposed' to think.

  43. Re:Does that count people like me? by mattmarlowe · · Score: 1

    I don't watch much TV -- not because I don't want to, but because there is very little of real value to watch.

    The only decent news is CNBC squawk box which is only on from 3am-5am pacific time (before the east coast markets open).
    There is only 3-4 hours of reasonably interesting drama or sci-fi tv created per week, and then only for about 30 weeks/year.

    The rest of TV is mostly dancing idiots on parade....shows made by idiots meant to entertain other other idiots.

    So, assuming 1hr of news 5 days/week for 52 weeks/yr and 3hrs of entertainment over 30 weeks/year, that adds up to only about 400hrs of worthwhile television per year for the entire year....or just a little over 1hr/day.

    Educational TV? Where do you get that? Publicly funded television stations are so politically biased that you can't trust the science in them -- many of the shows are more about political indoctrination than anything else. I don't let my kids watch PBS.

    If I want informational shows, it's usually best to buy them directly off teachingcompany/great courses....or find the rare youtube channel with someone who actually knows what they are talking about presenting ideas....

    So, basically, anyone watching an average of more than 2hrs/day of TV....I just feel sorry for them and move on.

  44. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by epyT-R · · Score: 3

    ..or maybe they graduated highschool and it takes more than crappy soap operas to entertain them. Face it, a huge percentage of today's tv now uses that model. It's all about feelings and who's doing who. There's nothing smug about moving on from highschool drama.

  45. Re:Does that count people like me? by mattmarlowe · · Score: 1

    Plasma TV's which are really the only ones worthwhile for large family use can require 500-550 watts.

  46. Well, yeah... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    I'm still watching a lot of TV, but I'm streaming most of it over the internet, and 20% of it is porn anyway...

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  47. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    We don't hate people that don't watch television... we just can't find anything to converse with them about!

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  48. 4½ hours a day? Impossible! by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

    I've seen american TV. There isn't 4.5 hours of watchable stuff in a day.

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    1. Re:4½ hours a day? Impossible! by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      True, but there is 24 hours of crap on every day !

      *zing!*

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  49. "add in DVR time" by j2.718ff · · Score: 1

    What really impressed me is that the stat is 4.5 hours of LIVE TV. I occasionally watch the local news while eating breakfast... that averages to maybe 30 minutes per week. That's the only time I ever watch live TV. With DVRs, and netflix / various internet options, I can very rarely find a compelling reason to watch live TV.

    The only other time I watched something live was the presidential debates, but that was streamed from the internet. I don't know what category that should fall in.

  50. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

    Some do.

    They hate being reminded that they watch someone else's fake life instead of living their own.

    Why do you think crap like Kartrashians, Survivor, and other unreality TV shows are so popular?

  51. depends on what you mean by "watch" by mr.dreadful · · Score: 1

    watch != engaged.
    I often turn the TV on while I'm making dinner or puttering about...

  52. TV? by jshackney · · Score: 1

    Haven't turned a television on in at least three weeks. I'm glad someone is picking up my slack.

  53. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by shortscruffydave · · Score: 1

    Sounds familiar. A few years ago I moved house and didn't take my TV with me. I never really missed it, but it made me realise how many conversations I had which were about TV. Started lose count of the number of times somebody said to me "Hey, last night did you see...err....oh, never mind...."

  54. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    Similar, but playing Baldur's Gate on my tablet. I get a lot more than just zombies to kill.

    The new Hitman turned out to be a little short lived - Training, Paris and Italy and you're done. So I was retreading Sniper Elite 2 Nazi Zombie edition.

    It's not always Zombies.
     

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  55. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

    That's the primary purpose of TV. Second is separating you from your money.

  56. Re:How do you know if a guy doesn't have a TV? by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

    I have never heard anyone go one about not watching TV. What always happens is that some TV nut goes on about this TV drama or that pop political point or some hopeful politician with bad hair. And then they talk about it like everyone should know what they mean. When someone says that they don't know because they don't watch TV, I see the TV watchers get upset, like there is some kind of duty to be watching and be informed about what other people think you should talk about.

    To be clear. One person says "this show is great" or similar and another says "not watching TV is great." Both express what they know and enjoy, but you only seem be bothered by the one who doesn't enjoy what you enjoy.

    Not only that, but I think people who watch TV get upset by those who do not, because they know deep down inside that TV is a total waste of time. And yet without TV they would have little to discuss with their acquaintances, because it consumes so much of their time and thoughts. Some people think it is a personal attack against them, because they know they should watch less and how dare others do what they do not have the strength or motivation to do for themselves.

    Still you are right. Some people go on about what they choose to do in their lives, as if they are a better person for it. Like vegetarians, cyclists and recyclers. But why should that bother you? It says something about the person who is bothered by what other people enjoy in life. Maybe it indicates that they need change in your life and are avoiding it.