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FBI Probes Hacking of Democratic Congressional Group (reuters.com)
From a Reuters report: The FBI is investigating a cyber attack against another U.S. Democratic Party group, which may be related to an earlier hack against the Democratic National Committee
, four people familiar with the matter told Reuters. The previously unreported incident at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, or DCCC, and its potential ties to Russian hackers are likely to heighten accusations, so far unproven, that Moscow is trying to meddle in the U.S. presidential election campaign to help Republican nominee Donald Trump. The Kremlin denied involvement in the DCCC cyber-attack. Hacking of the party's emails caused discord among Democrats at the party's convention in Philadelphia to nominate Hillary Clinton as its presidential candidate. The newly disclosed breach at the DCCC may have been intended to gather information about donors, rather than to steal money, the sources said on Thursday.
Time for all the idiots to start screaming that it doesn't matter because they're so blinded by their hatred of Hillary Clinton that they don't have any problem with Russia trying to interfere with the election.
Why is no one being charged on Hatch act violations? Illegal campaign financing (money transfer pinball)?
I don't think Vlad P is _that_ invested in having Trump win. If he is, Trump's ties to him go deeper than mere admiration.
More likely is that someone else has hired the hackers. Those super PACs need to spend their money somewhere.
But I'd say the most likely scenario is that the Republicans have been hacked too, but their security is so crap they haven't even realized it.
We are the 198 proof..
They won't prosecute if it's Her Highness, but they'll be happy to prosecute if there's an unsubstantiated allegation that besmirches Her Highness.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Many people are aware of their public image. Such people will, for example, refuse to endorse a candidate because they know that their endorsement comes with more baggage than benefits.
Vladimir Putin is not a great fool, he knows what the American populace thinks of him. His most likely motive is a desire to make sure that whoever wins this election, a significant population believes that it only got that way because of illegal foreign campaign contributions and/or espionage by a moderately hostile (not shooting yet) foreign government. This would widen the rift of distrust between the citizenry of the USA and the government, providing an image that "the west" is just as guilty of rigging elections and ignoring citizen opinions as Russia (or at least, that is how his diplomats can argue it).
The emails were leaked by deliberate negligence. Just like a certain person who wasn't charged for exposing certain files on a private home server.
Once the noise went down the person in charge got a job working for the person who benefits the most from the leaked emails.
And yet it's "Russia" influencing the election.
...as long as they didn't KNOW that anything they took was secret, no prosecutable crime was committed?
After all, "... no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case..."
-Styopa
Can some please explain why Russian would bother hacking the DNC?
No conspiracy theories please, just a plausible motive.
We are offshoring almost everything else. Why deny the Russians work in the electoral process?
Why would this be a national security issue or even a campaign issue, if the emails in question were just about yoga and Chelsea's wedding?
I mean, Hillary promised us all that there was nothing important in those emails. Right?
So going back in time to hack a server to get emails that are only about yoga classes seems improbable...
Russia is. And as soon as our Lady President Hillary Rodham Clinton, our leader, is sworn in, we'll wage war against it. We expect Europe to do its duty and send its youth to the front.
So far as I know, the only people saying it was Russia are DNC officials, the same people that couldn't manage to secure a mail server and the same people that have an extreme interest in making sure their underhanded subverting of Bernie Sanders' campaign wasn't the story. But they're experts at network forensics, apparently, after only 4 days of work... Meanwhile it took months for the FBI & CIA to say they think the Sony hack was done by North Korea. Maybe the FBI and CIA should start hiring Hilary's cronies to do their hacking investigations for them.
It's almost hysterical, this loonbait conspiracy crap. Why should Putin favor Trump, when Trump clearly favors the US over all other countries? (as a President for any particular country *should* be putting the interests of his own countrymen first). Putin would more likely actually prefer a POTUS that is going to be weaker on foreign policy, if anything; just about everyone wants to knock the US down a peg or three.
It's just FUD and hypocritical fearmongering from the DNC; instead of getting their panties twisted up over terrorism, which is actually a credible future threat, they're getting them twisted up over a supposed conspiracy between Russia and a real estate tycoon/nominee. You can't make this stuff up. It's rather pathetic.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
Trump is just a blowhard who doesn't think before he speaks. It is pretty clear in context that he was not actually calling for any hacks.
"Why do I have to get involved with [Vladimir] Putin? I have nothing to do with Putin. I’ve never spoken to him. I don’t know anything about him other than he will respect me. He doesn’t respect our president. And if it is Russia [behind the WikiLeaks release of stolen Democratic National Committee emails]—which it’s probably not, nobody knows who it is—but if it is Russia, it’s really bad for a different reason, because it shows how little respect they have for our country, when they would hack into a major party and get everything. But it would be interesting to see—I will tell you this—Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.
The Chewbacca Defense in the annals of brilliant legal maneuvers.
So the Dems have been hacked, apparently multiple times and these hacks have been widely publicized. To me that raise the question of why aren't we hearing anything about hacks on the GOP side?
Is it because the GOP has security that is orders of magnitude better than the DNC?
Is it because the GOP doesn't have any juicy secrets?
Is it because the GOP has been hacked, but no-one is admitting to anything?
Is it because all the hackers are pro-GOP?
I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
I know, mixing my allusions.
That landed in Hillary's pocket from Uranium One and other Russian deals facilitated by the Clinton Foundation.
How dare Russia try to influence our potential President?
You mean like this fellow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Chinese billionaire tied to 1990s Clinton fundraising scandal arrested for lying about how he used $4.5MILLION cash he brought into the U.S. aboard private jets
I don't see what anybody's all worked up about. Back in 2012 no less a personage than Barack Obama told us we had nothing to fear from Russia, and that any concerns about them were simply fear-mongering.
No reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against HRC for any reason ever. Obviously.
It originated from a dilapatated Coney Island arcade with a busted up sign and an illegal connection to the power grid.
As soon as I saw that real consequences started happening because of the DNC hack, my first thought was, "Hmm, well, some consumer-grade Exchange box sitting on the end of a Comcast connection running without an SSL certificate for two months would be a piece of cake compared to the DNC's infrastructure. Somebody's for sure got those deleted emails." Heck, even Comey himself testified that the FBI was able to reconstitute thousands of work-related emails. Maybe we don't need the Russkies or the script kiddies to give us the emails, our own FBI could fork them over.
Regardless, yeah, I'd like to see those emails. I think 30,000 emails about yoga would be interesting.
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
Actually, it's the GOP's insistence that there must be something corrupt to show about the Democrats that lead to all these investigations, yet the results?
Not even as conclusive as the Iran-Contra affair.
They should just start cleaning their own house, otherwise they'll just cement their reputation for crying wolf.
It was the hackers, with the hack, in cyber-spaaaace.
Changing the subject to Russia constantly has been a big help recently. It changes the subject from what we all should be paying attention to, the content of these mails. Instead our attention is diverted away to the man juggling, while the thief picks our pockets clean. This was no ordinary hack, the freaking chairwoman of the DNC has already resigned over it and more resignations will be coming in the days to come. The Democratic Party is not what everyone thought it was
They ridiculed an African-American woman named LaQueenia Gibson. Yes, the Democrats did this. They wanted to use use Bernie Sandersâ(TM) religious beliefs against him in the Democratic primary. They blocked off roads to an event the opposition was hosting. Does any of this sound like Third World banana republic bullshit to you? That's because it is. And it really happened, here, in America.
And let's not forget their greatest crime: subverting the democratic process and the people's will in favor of a crooked, rotten career politician. Disgusting. It's like watching a friend you've known for years suddenly start kicking the crap out of a stray dog, the howling and crying goes on and on but he just doesn't stop. No wonder they want to change the subject to Russia. Articles like this help and are part of the whole rotten problem.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
https://www.rt.com/usa/353840-...
"US intel head calls for end to hyperventilation over Russiaâ(TM)s alleged role in DNC hack
The Director of National Intelligence says Washington is still unsure of who might be behind the latest WikiLeaks release of hacked Democratic National Committee emails, while urging that an end be put to the reactionary mode blaming it all on Russia."
It's interesting that the Western press isn't reporting this.
0 - Trump's comment was pure sarcasm, and all those who didn't get it at the moment also don't get Trump, and won;t get why he will win.
1 - Any questions on why you don't get Trump I will not answer. You won't get the answer either.
2 - Every state is attacking every other state's data, and at every level. Some are more successful than others. If you don't think an individual, moderately technology-capable, state is doing this, then they are entirely successful in hiding their efforts, and their success at getting data is unknown, but non-zero. Do not doubt this. Cyberattacks are the single best example of asymmetrical warfare. It is hugely cheaper to defeat Internet security than it is to implement it. Huge payoff.
3 - This is proof that there is no absolute security, only security making it unprofitable to circumvent or compromised security that the compromise is not yet detected.
4 - The DNC hack is unworthy of the FBI's time - they are a private organization. The DCCC hack is also, but because it has the word 'Congressional' in the name, the FBI will be dragged into it.
5 - If the DCCC hack exposes confidential information with a national security exposure, that is a failure of a congressional caucus dealing with sensitive data improperly. More fast and loose with important data? Probably. Consequences? Not likely.
Whoop. Expect more of these.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
They keep investigating the HACKS. Not the corruption and crime the hacks expose. THE FBI IS CORRUPT AS FUCK.
The US is hacking every nation in the world. They even Hacked Merkel cell phone.
Why is anyone, let alone the party in power and presumably the ones signed off on this hacking or at least let it persist, bitching about being hacked themselves?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
All of them are full of shit liars. Should they hack an iPhone or not? Is Tim Cook too clever for their advanced tactics with his dildo shaped phone?
Get the fucking fuck out.
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/01/28/how-the-fbi-became-the-worlds-largest-distributor-of-child-sex-abuse-imagery/
They are a bullshit taxpayer drain on society and are aware of a vast amount of corruption even surpassing their own internal mole networks.
FBI are so fucking mole just call them "The whole world agency".
It's now reported that the FBI warned team Hillary back in March and they refused to cooperate with the FBI.
Sorta like their earlier year-long refusal to cooperate with the feds on the investigation of her server, while she ran around telling the public she was eager and fully cooperating and that her server was approved, which her own State Department denies. There's a good reason why she has held not a single actual press conference in all of 2016 (you know, those things where politicians take questions from a hostile press corps (worse given that in her case the press is actually in the tank for her party and not even tough)).
Former CBS news journalist Sharyl Attkisson has a nice, concise timeline on the whole Hillary server flap for those interested.
During the nineties:
When they were taking illegal campaign money from China and allowing China access to ballisic missile tech and allowing US high-tech manufacturing to move to China, they pointed at the economy and said "the economy is good!"
When Bill could not keep his pants zipped and molestation, cheating, intimidation and actual rape were alleged, the Clinton machine said "The economy is good!" and "move on [to something else]".
This Clinton proclivity for bad behaviour and dishonestly and incompetently covering it up was the origin of moveon.org - as an outlet to distract the public from all the Clinton scandals. It was an internet 1.0 version of "get over it already!" and "SQUIRREL!". Many of the web outlets that spawned in the 1990s and got initial funding from Clinton pal and former NAZI collaborator billionaire George Soros were started/funded precisely as part of the Democrat effort to save the Clintons from all the scandals they themselves created. They're a pair of southern trailer trash hicks who managed to get political power, and like many poor hicks who hit the lottery they have no sense of propriety and little self control.
would be to presume that Russia has a time machine - a concept only sycophant Democrats mindlessly reciting DNC talking points would presume true.
FACT: Hillary's e-mails were not on DNC or Government servers; they were by ALL accounts on Hillary's private servers (the FBI says she actually had 4).
FACT: Hillary had all the files removed from the servers and transferred to her lawyers.
FACT: Hillary's servers that held her e-mails are no longer in operation.
FACT: Hillary has claimed her lawyer went through her e-mails and deleted a large number (generally estimated at around 30K)
These deleted "missing" e-mails are the ones Trump is obviously referring to, given that these are the ones that are missing and the only collections of e-mails anybody in the public eye is associating with the count of about 30000.
By defintion, Trump could not have been encouraging the Russians to do any future hacking if they lack a time machine. He had to have been sarcastically suggesting that they might have hacker her server (which she and her supporters swear never happened) and might have copies from back then. Further, if they DO have those, then the geopolitical damage is already done. And further yet: If those e-mails are just about her yoga lessons and Chelsie's wedding, as Hillary has claimed, then there is certainly no national security risk to them being handed over to the Americans and all the Hillary people shrieking about this being some grave national threat or "treason" are just hyper-political and hyper-dishonest freaks.
Maybe, from the top down, the Democrats, in turn, politicians should learn something, even a little, about email and computers