Windows 10 Computers Crash When Amazon Kindles Are Plugged In (theguardian.com)
It appears that many users are facing an issue with their Windows 10 computers when they plug in an Amazon Kindle device. According to reports, post Windows 10 Anniversary Update installation, everytime a user connect their Amazon Paperwhite or Voyage, their desktop and laptop lock up and require rebooting. The Guardian reports:Pooka, a user of troubleshooting forum Ten Forums said: "I've had a Kindle paperwhite for a few years no and never had an issue with connecting it via USB. However, after the recent Windows 10 updates, my computer BSOD's [blue screen of death] and force restarts almost as soon as I plug my Kindle in." On Microsoft's forums, Rick Hale said: "On Tuesday, I upgraded to the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10. Last night, for the first time since the upgrade, I mounted my Kindle by plugging it into a USB 2 port. I immediately got the blue screen with the QR code. I rebooted and tried several different times, even using a different USB cable, but that made no difference."
[Lawrence Olivier] Let the excuses begin! [/Lawrence Olivier]
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Perhaps if I could choose to load which updates I want and when, then you might have a point.
And Yes, I was a rabid Windows fan till win 8.
_ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
We'll run a story when your iPhone reboots every time you plug in a headset.
Best results will be obtained by using Monster (tm) brand USB cables.
I do not want to subscribe to and eat cookies as a service full of bugs.
Did you try rebooting your speakers?
Windows 10 is absurdly unstable because it's under constant development. One day your computer is working, the next they decide to do an update and break everything. Of course, instability is just one of the major problems with 10. An equally big problem is that it has no customisation options and gives you no control.
I had Windows 10 on four PCs and I wasn't happy with it, but I thought I'd have to upgrade at some point anyway so I was sticking with it. However, when the Anniversary Update came along and completely destroyed my computers I moved them all back to 8.1. The Anniversary Update is an update in name only, and the reality is that it is a completely new installation of Windows. It downloads the 4GB image, does a clean install (renaming your current one to windows.old) and then tries to transfer your programs and settings across. It fails utterly at doing this and afterwards it's not a case of "what's broken?", more like "does anything still work?"
Windows 8.1 is supported until 2023 so I've got that long to switch to Linux. After all the trouble reinstalling 8.1 on all my computers I wouldn't consider installing 10 again. Windows 10 gets a lot of criticism around here, but I suspect most of the criticism comes from people who haven't actually use it. If you do use it the reality is far worse.
One of the things M$ changed in Anniversary was that they were going to start enforcing that all drivers will need to be signed. Perhaps the Kindle driver is not? Maybe uninstall Kindle driver, see if Amazon has posted a new signed driver, install that, see if Kindle and Windows are happy together again?
I had this problem. After installing the Anniversary update, plugging my Kindle Paperwhite into the USB port would bluescreen Windows about half the time.
There were more updates yesterday, and I've plugged in the Kindle several times today without anything bad happening.
I'm a dreamer, the world is my playpen. But hey, I'm a serious person, I can't dream all the time.
You can: choose Linux.
Study finds that 75% people pushing Linux on others aren't actualy using Linux.
Be or ben't
I am not. This is an update for the most widely used OS in the world which reboots when one of the most popular consumer devices available is plugged in. How exactly should it not be a story?
> ...my computer BSOD's [blue screen of death] and force restarts almost as soon as I plug my Kindle in.
Windows 10 is anticipating the attachment of the device and prematurely crashes? That's pretty efficient.
I'm probably not the only one here who's getting sick and tired of hearing about yet another major Windows bug that we can't do anything about. While Microsoft makes their operating system even less stable, update to update, it also makes it harder for us to even pick the updates that we know work and leave those we don't aside.
That's a serious problem, and downtime due to computers crashing, needing to be reformatted and their operating systems re-installed, together with the time taken for users to learn about these problems and investigate workarounds, costs the world economy trillions every year. In this case the user loses whatever functionality lead them to wanting to plug a Kindle Fire into their Windows PCs in the first place, again having a real cost associated with it.
Yet while we waste time waiting for our computers to reboot, we feel helpless, unable to investigate workarounds or other ways to achieve the results we want.
This quagmire of people being unable to fix the problems caused by bugs and other issues will not disappear by itself. Resources need to be devoted, and unless people are prepared to actually act, not just talk about it on Slashdot, nothing will ever get done. Apathy is not an option.
You can help by getting off your rear and writing to your congressman or senator. Tell them your concerns about bugs in Windows 10. Warn them that trillions of dollars are being lost because of these issues. Tell them this is important to you. Tell them that you appreciate the work being done by organizations like Microsoft and Amazon to fix the bugs, but that without better QA and more reliable drivers, you will be forced to use less and less secure and intelligently designed alternatives. Explain the concerns you have about freedom, openness, and choice, and how vicious, angry, arguments undermines all three. Let them know that this is an issue that effects YOU directly, that YOU vote, and that your vote will be influenced, indeed dependent, on their policies on bugs in Windows 10.
You CAN make a difference. Don't treat voting as a right, treat it as a duty. Remember, it was thanks to ordinary people like YOU that we are now seeing such innovations as SMP in OpenBSD. Keep informed, keep your political representatives informed on how you feel. And, most importantly of all, vote.
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Luckily the iPhone 7 is rumored to have a hotfix for that issue: "Removed headphone jack to prevent issues with phones that reboot every time a headset is plugged in."
1. Pair devices
2. Reboot
3. Repair devices
4. Profit!
I ran into that too. It was lost to the account, the start button was still there. I had to create another account via the command prompt, log into that one, delete the original account, and then create a replacement account. Of course, I had to then log into that account, and kill the one I created via the command prompt. Very screwed up way to fix the problem, but it worked. Only happened once on one machine.
Does this mean MS has a competing e-reader coming to market?
Save 10% on your next forced free* upgrade.
* - Free as in without additional cost as long as you don't value your time, privacy, freedom, stability, or ability to control your system
And just what part of your ass did you pull that "statistic" from?
Oh, BTW, you may be running Linux or BSD yourself and not even know it -- Android is Linux and Apple is BSD. In fact, about the only computers that aren't running BSD or Linux are Windows desktops and laptops.
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iPhone 9 will remove the phone app because it always interrupts audio/video playback from any a/v service at the most annoying time.
MS fired all their QA guys a year or so ago, so lack of basic testing is hardly a surprise.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Till Kindle Won't Run!
It's a bug that should have been caught before it reached any customer. Most companies would feel bad when bugs are first found by customers instead of QA, but not Microsoft.
TFA makes it sound like this affects 100% of users, but it doesn't seem to affect me. Just tried plugging my kindle voyage into my windows 10 laptop running the anniversary update. Worked as normal, no bluescreen here.
"All" might be hypebole, but they got rid of the vast majority between 2014 and the 2015 mass layoffs. I knew several people who were affected. SDT isn't really a role there any more any more: some made the transition to SDE, some found one of very few remaining niches, most were out of luck.
It really sucks because most of the other big employers in the area also don't have QA (or very few), since we're all smoking the DevOps crack: managers pretending you can just hire devs, since they're smart enough to do QA and ops. Stupidest fad ever.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
It's not like this is an obscure device.
Of course, since we can always hide problematic updates... oh wait, we can't even do that... if we required to accept all updates then Microsoft needs to be even better about testing rather than become more sloppy.
Kindles emulate standard USB storage.
This seems more like windows trying to be "smart", detecting a kindle device and handling it different, triggering a bug.
This is a stupid bug that should not happen (as a kindle device should be handled by userspace and killed when unresponsive)
On the other hand, my linux experience when handling corrupted IO devices sectors hasn't been wonderful, so I can say the grass isn't much greener from this side of the fence.
If you understand what a BSOD is (kernel panic), and you also understand why this shouldn't happen (no userland software or hardware should EVER be talking directly to the kernel since Vista), you'll come to the same conclusion I have.
2 possibilities:
1- Microsoft is fucking with Amazon. Azure can't compete with AWS, so they have to attack Amazon somehow...
-OR- 2- Anniversary update contains new NSA spyware meant to interact with the kindle, but instead FAILs hard thanks to what I assume to be internal sabotage from someone inside the NSA who hates his job (maybe the same guy who leaked the DNC emails and the NSA tools).
"Prediction: within 10 years, Windows will be a Linux distribution." Me, 7-6-2016