AAPS Doctors Run Survey On Hillary Clinton's Health (prnewswire.com)

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AAPS Doctors Run Survey On Hillary Clinton's Health (prnewswire.com)

Posted by BeauHD on Friday September 9, 2016 @01:00AM from the turn-your-head-and-cough dept.

schwit1 PR Newswire: Concerns about Hillary Clinton's health are "serious -- could be disqualifying for the position of President of the U.S.," say nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). About 20% said concerns were "likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records." Only 2.7% responded that they were "just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern." While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis. More than 78% said the health concerns had received "not enough emphasis" in the media, and only 2.7% that there had been "too much emphasis." Nearly two-thirds said that a physician who had a concern about a candidate's fitness to serve for health reasons should "make the concerns known to the public." Only 11% said a physician should "keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient," and 10% that the candidate's health was "off limits for public discussion." A poll of 833 randomly selected registered voters by Gravis Marketing showed that nearly half (49%) were not aware of the "well documented major health issues that Hillary Clinton has." Nearly three-fourths (74%) were unaware of Bill Clinton's statement that Hillary suffered a "terrible" concussion requiring "six months of very serious work to get over." The majority (57%) thought that candidates should release their medical records.

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SHUTUP PUTIN! by CajunArson · 2016-09-09 01:02 · Score: 4, Funny

Damn Russkie Republicans trying to lie about Hillary!

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1. Re:SHUTUP PUTIN! by cayenne8 · 2016-09-09 02:07 · Score: 2
  
  Interesting topic.
  After thinking about it...I think I"d rather have medical records over tax records.
  I guess having both are better, but I think the medical records would be more directly applicable to qualifications as US President than tax records...?
  
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2. Re:SHUTUP PUTIN! by jedidiah · 2016-09-09 02:48 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  You know, the Democrats want access to your medical records so that they can keep you from buying a gun. If you are fine with that then what's the problem with putting Clinton's medical records on display? I seem to vaguely recall the occasional physical of presidents being a minor news item. You want these people to expose themselves for financial reasons, why not medical?
  
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3. Re:SHUTUP PUTIN! by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-09 03:48 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  You mean you don't trust a neocon "physicians" group? Here is what AAPS is:
  "The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine"
  ==================
  Is your doctor a member?
  Are membership lists public?
  How would you know?
4. Re:SHUTUP PUTIN! by ausekilis · 2016-09-09 04:05 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  You want these people to expose themselves for financial reasons, why not medical?
  I for one have no interest in seeing either candidate expose themselves. Even if it is for medical reasons.
5. Re: SHUTUP PUTIN! by ArmoredDragon · 2016-09-09 08:48 · Score: 2
  
  3 full terms; he died in his 4th. Anyways if you want a precedent on this, here's a much better (and legally binding) one:
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
  As much as I don't like Hillary, I think the Goldwater case applies and doctors shouldn't be commenting on her fitness without two conditions being met:
  1) The doctor has personally evaluated her, and
  2) She has waived her doctor-patient confidentiality privilege.
  This should apply in any situation for any patient as a universal rule.
Clickbait troll much? by Hognoxious · 2016-09-09 01:03 · Score: 5, Insightful

Without actually examining her, how much faith can we put in their opinions?

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1. Re:Clickbait troll much? by 110010001000 · 2016-09-09 01:13 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  You mean you dont trust a neocon "physicians" group? Here is what AAPS is:
  
  "The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine"
2. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Maritz · 2016-09-09 01:21 · Score: 2
  
  Looks like you see what you want to see. I'd look into that. ;)
  
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3. Re:Clickbait troll much? by alexhs · 2016-09-09 01:48 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey
  
  Only 2.7% responded that they were "just a political attack;
  
  only 2.7% that there had been "too much emphasis."
  6/250 corresponds to 2,4%
  7/250 corresponds to 2,8%
  Are the opinions even real, or are the results doctored ?
  
  informal internet survey
  On the Slashdot polls of old, there was a mention that if you were taking the results seriously you were crazy. Applies just as well here.
  
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4. Re:Clickbait troll much? by jandersen · 2016-09-09 02:11 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  You mean you dont trust a neocon "physicians" group?
  Be that what it may; but if we should be worried about the health of Ms Clinton because of these relatively common ailments, why was it not disqualifying that Reagan kept getting skin cancer? And if I remember correctly, he also, allegedly, suffered from Alzheimers. I think at some level we all know why: the people that attack Clinton, don't really care about the truth of their attacks, they just hope that if they make enough noise, then people will think there is a real problem. There is something deeply obscene about the way these people behave - whether they call themselves 'Alt-right' or whatever. I just hope the huge majority of decent and good people in America don't passivley allow themselves to be taken hostage.
5. Re:Clickbait troll much? by jlowery · 2016-09-09 02:17 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Are the opinions even real, or are the results doctored ?
  I saw what you did there
  
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6. Re:Clickbait troll much? by 110010001000 · 2016-09-09 02:24 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  You fuckwit. Stop being so lazy and think for yourself once in your life. Go read this diatribe from the President of "AAPS":
  http://www.aapsonline.org/inde...
7. Re:Clickbait troll much? by mrchaotica · 2016-09-09 02:36 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  You'd think that, but they've developed a bad case of stockholm syndrome since he won the primary.
  
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8. Re:Clickbait troll much? by squiggleslash · 2016-09-09 02:37 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  I don't know, but it has to be the stupidest attempt to attack Clinton if it is an attempt to do so.
  "Hey, you know the current election? The one between a crazy racist lunatic who fancies himself as the next Mussolini, and that woman you can't really stand because she doesn't come across as honest, and she's always embroiled in a scandal or two even if 99% of them are fake, but ultimately you just don't feel like she cares about anything you care about?
  "You know how you were going to vote for that woman but were only doing it to keep out the lunatic, and even then you kinda felt like you didn't even want to turn up on election day?
  "Well, heh, turns out she's about to die anyway, so if you vote for her you'll more than likely end up with her VP pick being President. You know, Kaine, the one who's far more progressive than she is and nobody's calling dishonest and nobody's trying to invent scandals about all the time."
  Well, that's great! You just made it much easier to cast my vote for Clinton!
  
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9. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-09 02:39 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  "Think for yourself", meaning take your unattributed quotes as fact without question? Your quote doesn't appear anywhere in that article, only appears in the Wikipedia article (taken from a Time magazine article) and is apparently part of an ongoing revision-debate on the article.
  So anyone who doesn't take you at your word is a lazy unthinking fuckwit?
  You sleazy overly-political types should really be the first up against the wall.
10. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Sarten-X · 2016-09-09 02:52 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  That's exactly correct: no merit whatsoever.
  From the description given (especially considering the lack of information about the "squealing noise"), you wouldn't have any evidence indicating whether the failure is a jammed fan, POST failure, PSU failure, bad electrical supply, or a rodent living inside. Some of those can be repaired, and some can not. Some are a threat to the computer's continued operation, and some are easily mitigated.
  Mastering a subject means you know what's reasonable. I wouldn't expect to see a bad electrical supply in the United States. On the other hand, it also means you know what's possible... on aircraft and military systems, 400Hz is not uncommon, and can cause some PSUs to fail in exciting ways. If you are claiming to be an expert in computer repair, you should follow up his description with several questions to ascertain precisely what symptoms are presented, rather than jumping to a conclusion to appear helpful. Unless this "someone" can provide the level of detail necessary for an accurate diagnosis, a direct evaluation is absolutely necessary.
  
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11. Re:Clickbait troll much? by meta-monkey · 2016-09-09 02:54 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  I don't think there was much concern about Reagan having Alzheimers while he was president, and making decisions as president.
  Also, can anybody look at Hillary Clinton's behavior in the past year and honestly say she doesn't appear unhealthy? I just don't know of any other people in the media spotlight or candidates for office I've seen who go on 2 minute coughing fits multiple times, or who need a stool while they're on stage.
  
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12. Re:Clickbait troll much? by AF_Cheddar_Head · 2016-09-09 02:59 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  A sample from the diatribe:
  "A frontal system with very low pressure blowing in from the Midwest has installed a radical leftist ruling cabal in the White House. This junta is increasingly totalitarian, and has infiltrated all parts of the Executive Branch, including the Department of Justice, the Internal Revenue Service, the Environmental Protection Agency (which was already a hotbed of Marxism), and increasingly, the Judicial Branch. This cabal has intentionally set out to destroy the U.S. Treasury through outrageous deficit spending, massive redistribution of wealth, punitive taxation, unhindered expansion of the regulatory state, nationalization of industries, and finally, the passage of a leviathan entitlement known as “ObamaCare.” The President, acting more like the late Hugo Chavez every day, ignores Congress and the will of the people. He fails to enforce laws he doesn’t like, rewrites laws to suit his political fancy, and creates new laws with executive orders and memoranda."
  Definitely an unbiased source there.
13. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Dunbal · 2016-09-09 03:08 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  even if 99% of them are fake
  Getting your government buddies in the FBI and attorney general's office to look the other way doesn't mean the scandal is fake. It just means you're too well connected to be prosecuted for your crime.
  
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14. Re:Clickbait troll much? by meta-monkey · 2016-09-09 03:15 · Score: 2
  
  But it's happened like four or five times now. If it were just a one-time event I could blame it on dust but not four or five times. Also the stool, and the head-bob seizure things that look an awful lot like TIAs. I don't see how one can look at all of that and say "nope nope nope, nothing to see here, picture of health!" She's clearly got problems.
  
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15. Re:Clickbait troll much? by The-Ixian · 2016-09-09 03:16 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Are you sure you can make that kind of diagnosis without the proper medical records?
  
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16. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-09 03:22 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Be that what it may; but if we should be worried about the health of Ms Clinton because of these relatively common ailments...
  A head concussion that put her in the hospital and took months to recover from (as stated by her husband who if anything has reason to downplay, not exaggerate) is a "relatively common ailment"? Really? News to me! I haven't heard of a single person in my fairly large sphere who has suffered anything similar.
  Cerebral sinus thrombosis is a condition affecting the ability for blood to drain from the brain and can result in symptoms ranging from "just" headaches (90% of sufferers) up to fainting, seizures (40%), and strokes. Additionally, in older people, like say a person 68 years old, it can also cause "unexplained changes in mental status and a depressed level of consciousness". It occurs in about 3-4 per million adults, or about 1,000 cases in the US. That is a "relatively common ailment" and not a reason to be concerned about her ability to function as president?
17. Re:Clickbait troll much? by rickb928 · 2016-09-09 03:29 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Neocons *DO* hate Trump. Almost as much as they hate Cruz.
  But this is so easily forgotten. Trump should be polling about 12%, but his appeal isn't to Republicans or Democrats. It's to Americans, like cabbies, baristas, janitorial staff, working stiff, the like.
  Sure, his glad handing and big smiles to the 'little people' is part corporate charm and part smarm, and calculated to some extent to further his corporate goals, but here's what Trump is that no one but Trumpies want to admit - he's successful, in large part, because he knows what to sell, how to sell, and how to get it done.
  In this season, I take the huckster rather than the crook. The huckster, sure, will make sure he gets paid in the end, and I'm likely to get something. The crook will strip me bare and is followed by vultures to pick my bones clean.
  All politicians lie, they must, for none of them can accomplish what they claim to want without cooperation somewhere. Politics is all a scratch and dent sale. Give me one that works, and I can forgive the dents.
  And yes, Hillary is a crook with a long history of lying, illegal activity, and corruption. The facts are plain. Her tenure on the Watergate Commission was not an aberration, it was a preface to her life. Trump, being a real estate developer, has done some shady things. Who among us is without sin? Who will cast the first stone, and not be a hypocrite?
  But vote your conscience. It's all you can honestly do.
  
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18. Re:Clickbait troll much? by networkBoy · 2016-09-09 03:33 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  My only beef with Clinton comes down to her *willful* flaunting of the law about State documents and email on a private server.
  That. Is. Not. Okay.
  The classification of the material is actually irrelevant, the law is crystal clear and she violated it. Those e-mails have to be audit-able. I get that the state dept servers blow chunks, and that realistically you have to work around them, so set up a parallel server on *government* machines that you can use. That way they are still part of the audit and backup process.
  She'll be another Nixon. Willing to flagrantly delete evidence rather than not doing things that are really bad in the first place.
  
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19. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Attila+Dimedici · 2016-09-09 03:40 · Score: 2
  
  Two points: First, there were LOTS of questions about Reagan's health when he ran for President in 1980 because of his age. However, he showed no signs of health issues on the campaign trail and was able to maintain a similar campaign schedule to that of his opponent with campaign appearances 7 days a week. Hillary has maintained a very sparse campaign schedule with 3 or 4 day weekends where she does not appear at any campaign events. In addition, Hillary has had multiple incidents which are suggestive of an underlying health problem (although these incidents are by no means conclusive). Over all there is greater reason to question Hillary's health than there was to question Reagan's (key word being "question")
  
  Second, the idea that Reagan had Alzheimer's while in office was a conjecture that was made after he was out of office for several years and diagnosed with it. There was no real evidence to suggest that such was the case while he was in office. There is sufficient evidence IN HINDSIGHT to conjecture that he may have been experiencing symptoms in the last year or two he was in office, but nothing that is even vaguely conclusive
  
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20. Re:Clickbait troll much? by neoritter · 2016-09-09 03:53 · Score: 2
  
  Democrats in 2008 made similar cause with McCain's health and ability to stay alive during even one term, let alone two. Democrats need to start owning their shit.
21. Re:Clickbait troll much? by amRadioHed · 2016-09-09 04:05 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Trump is a crook with a long history of lying, illegal activity, and corruption. Real corruption too, not just accusations flung repeatedly until something sticks. And he's the one with the well documented history of stealing people's money and leaving them with nothing. I can understand why Trump projects his flaws onto Clinton, but I'm not sure what other people get out of it.
  
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22. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Ksevio · 2016-09-09 04:16 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Hillary is a crook with a long history of lying, illegal activity, and corruption.
  And Trump has been documented to lie many times over the course of a week, advocates for war crimes, and admits he plays a part of the corruption in the political system (plus he was recently fined by the IRS after bribing a judge). If you're looking for the cleaner candidate, you won't find it in Trump.
23. Re:Clickbait troll much? by fahrbot-bot · 2016-09-09 04:17 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  but even if he (Trump) doesn't go senile in office,
  Why wait to worry about that. He (conveniently) can't remember saying things that are -- literally -- on video tape *now* -- like supporting the war in Iraq (video w/Howard Stern) and military intervention in Libya (video w/Matt Lauer). Though, to be fair, even Matt Lauer didn't remember Trump supporting the latter, despite The Daily Show Uncovers Video with Trump Telling Lauer He Supports War on Libya
  
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24. Re:Clickbait troll much? by TheCastro1689 · 2016-09-09 04:21 · Score: 2
  
  Reagan's kid said he acted strangely in his book. Publically people didn't know about it, but privately that's another matter.
25. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Anonymice · 2016-09-09 04:29 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  That's the thing about Trump, I'm not so sure he's as much a liar as a fantasist. He's so enveloped in his own idolatry, he really believes in what he says - even if it's completely contradictory to whatever he said 5 minutes previous. He's got his own Ministry of Truth constantly churning away in his head.
26. Re:Clickbait troll much? by sexconker · 2016-09-09 04:34 · Score: 2
  
  Well, he's not wrong.
27. Re:Clickbait troll much? by 0100010001010011 · 2016-09-09 04:35 · Score: 2
  
  Uh, didn't you hear her softball answer on NBC? She had a second secure account. She accessed it under a cone of s 'those little booths'.
  Which means that the FOIA should be able to not only find the account but print some e-mails from it.
28. Re:Clickbait troll much? by JustSomeProgrammer · 2016-09-09 05:26 · Score: 2
  
  Because Franklin D Roosevelt was a horrible president. I mean can you imagine? He hid his inability to walk from the public! People disqualify qualified people for the stupidest reasons. They also vote for unqualified people for the stupidest reasons. I'd be in favor of a presidental candidate being required to go through a health screening by a nonpartison doctor, but unless there's a condition that would seriously undermine their ability to perform in the capacity of president, anything discovered should not be shared with the public. Your health is between you and your doctor unless you choose to share that information with others.
  
  Oh I like the idea of a piss test as well for any elected official. Prove you don't break the law before you enforce law on others. But the only thing I'd want to know is pass/fail.
29. Re:Clickbait troll much? by admiralh · 2016-09-09 05:44 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Trump is two years older than HRC.
  Also, have you looked at Trump's waistline? The suits hide a lot of it, but it seems quite unhealthy to me.
  Trump also sat for the entire CiC interview while Hillary stood during various portions of it.
  And Hillary has released a professional statement from her doctor while Trump's doctor released a statement that sounded like it was written for Kim Jung Un.
  
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30. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Jason+Levine · 2016-09-09 05:49 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  >I just don't know of any other people in the media spotlight or candidates for office I've seen who go on 2 minute coughing fits multiple times, or who need a stool while they're on stage.
  It happened to Newt Gingrich while he was criticizing Hillary for coughing. Newt claimed that it was from speaking and travelling so much. Honestly, as much as I disagree with Mr. Gingrich, I believe him. And, guess who else has been travelling a lot and speaking a lot? Hillary.
  
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31. Re:Clickbait troll much? by David_Hart · 2016-09-09 05:53 · Score: 2
  
  But it's happened like four or five times now. If it were just a one-time event I could blame it on dust but not four or five times. Also the stool, and the head-bob seizure things that look an awful lot like TIAs. I don't see how one can look at all of that and say "nope nope nope, nothing to see here, picture of health!" She's clearly got problems.
  Bull%^$%&
  So, the coughing has happened 4 or 5 times over 5 to 6 months of speeches and constant video coverage. Yep, that's a lot all right... As for the "head bob", it was nothing more than her shaking her head in disbelief or humor. It only looks awkward because of the camera angle.
  But hey, the facts just don't fit the conspiracy theory, so lets just ignore them....
32. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Pfhorrest · 2016-09-09 06:18 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  he's successful, in large part, because he knows what to sell, how to sell, and how to get it done.
  He's "successful" because he started out with an enormous pile of money and hasn't burned through it all yet. If he had stuck it in an index fund and done nothing at all creative with it, he'd have seen better returns than any of his actual endeavors.
  
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33. Re:Clickbait troll much? by meta-monkey · 2016-09-09 07:20 · Score: 2
  
  Is there anyone else who's had months of constant video coverage and gone into coughing fits? Any other candidate for major office, ever?
  
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34. Re:Clickbait troll much? by squiggleslash · 2016-09-09 08:48 · Score: 2
  
  They mostly ignore it because it doesn't feed into "Hills is the corrupt one" narrative they've been running. Remember, Hillary is a crook while Trump is a racist, if you're the New York Times anyway. Balance! The fact that Hillary isn't, and Trump is both, is a minor detail, to be swept under the rug.
  That said, reports do surface here and there. Trump himself has boasted of bribing politicians on the campaign trail, so it's not like this is a secret. And rather a lot of people have been pointing at the media and asking them why they've barely mentioned Trump's IRS fine for bribing the AG of Florida (to get her to drop her charges against Trump U, which she did.)
  
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35. Re:Clickbait troll much? by quantaman · 2016-09-09 10:47 · Score: 2
  
  I don't think there was much concern about Reagan having Alzheimers while he was president, and making decisions as president.
  Also, can anybody look at Hillary Clinton's behavior in the past year and honestly say she doesn't appear unhealthy?
  Yup! Me! I don't see any reason to think she's unhealthy.
  
  I just don't know of any other people in the media spotlight or candidates for office I've seen who go on 2 minute coughing fits multiple times
  Maybe she had a dry throat from talking all day, maybe she had a cold.
  
  or who need a stool while they're on stage.
  She's 69 years old.
  I don't care if she needs a stool, I'm pretty sure the oval office has a nice chair. Heck, FDR needed a wheelchair and he was up to the job.
  But I'll be sure to scratch her name from the 2020 Olympic team.
  
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36. Re:Clickbait troll much? by Pfhorrest · 2016-09-10 07:42 · Score: 2
  
  The point of the 'stick it in an index fund' comparison is that that kind of investment reflects the average kind of return that other players in the market manage to make on average, and if your own investing activity doesn't even beat that, then you're hardly some kind of genius business paragon, because you're not even doing as well as the average business, as if you had let average businesses use your money instead they would have done more with it than you managed.
  
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Disgraceful by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-09 01:04 · Score: 5, Insightful

This has no place on slashdot. It is extremely offensive to the memory of a once fantastic tech site.
1. Re:Disgraceful by Salgak1 · 2016-09-09 01:14 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  RIP Slashdot
  Slashdot died years ago. This is the Slashdot Zombie Post Apocalypse. . .
2. Re: Disgraceful by BarbaraHudson · 2016-09-09 01:37 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  You mean the Slashdot Post Apocalypse Zombies - aka S.P.A.Z.
  
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3. Re:Disgraceful by eth1 · 2016-09-09 02:35 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  This has no place on slashdot. It is extremely offensive to the memory of a once fantastic tech site.
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Look at the source by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-09 01:04 · Score: 5, Informative

Look at the source. This groups says HIV isn't the cause of AIDS. This group says being gay itself shortens life expectancy. I am in no way a Hillary fan, in fact the thought of either of these two running the country makes me say, however this group is a joke and this stance matches every other hard right stance they take.
This is damn near more a political group than a true medical group anyone should listen to.
1. Re:Look at the source by 91degrees · 2016-09-09 01:10 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  According to Wikipedia, 'The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine."'
  
  Even if we reject the "politically conservative" categorisation, I'd say that quoted aim casts doubt on their neutrality here.
2. Re:Look at the source by Grishnakh · 2016-09-09 03:57 · Score: 2
  
  With 5000 members, I'm thinking maybe I should make sure any doctors I see aren't affiliated with this group. I wonder if their membership list is public.
what's the medical equivalent of 'hearsay' by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-09 01:04 · Score: 5, Insightful

I would have hoped "keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient" would have gotten a higher percentage of the response
1. Re:what's the medical equivalent of 'hearsay' by Maritz · 2016-09-09 01:22 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  These jokers are obviously 'doctors' second to 'political hacks'.
  
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Non Partisan my Ass by blackpaw · 2016-09-09 01:05 · Score: 5, Informative

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine"
Says all you need to know about them.
1. Re:Non Partisan my Ass by rickb928 · 2016-09-09 03:32 · Score: 2
  
  "and that there are links between autism and vaccinations"
  Woops, that's a Leftie stand. How did that happen?
  
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2. Re:Non Partisan my Ass by Zalbik · 2016-09-09 08:09 · Score: 2
  
  That, and:
  
  The association is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there are links between autism and vaccinations
  Now that's just scary!
This is why psychiatrists are not allowed to comme by Elfich47 · 2016-09-09 01:05 · Score: 5, Informative

This is why psychiatrists/psychologists are not allowed to comment on the health of people who are not directly under their care. If you don't know what is going, you can't make a reasonable assessment of the subject's health. Doctors who have not reviewed the patient's medical file and made an examination of the subject should shut up because they do not have all of the information needed to make an accurate assessment.

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WTF kind of garbage post is this? by amacbride · 2016-09-09 01:10 · Score: 4, Insightful

I get that this is in the Politics section, but really? PRNewswire? On an Internet poll run by an organization no one's ever heard of?
Sheesh.
Do editors even bother anymore? by ugen · 2016-09-09 01:10 · Score: 5, Informative

Do slashdot editors even bother checking sources? Or have this site finally found found its place among tabloids? LMGTFY - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons ("The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine."[1][2] The group was reported to have approximately 4,000 members in 2005, and 5,000 in 2014....The association is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited theories, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there are links between autism and vaccinations."
I do find it interesting that even these shills were only able to muster 250 out of 5000 members to sign this crap. I guess even in that group 95% are not willing to completely disavow their responsibility as doctors. In that they are already better humans than whatever slashdot editor that posted this.
Completely unreliable poll format by plsuh · 2016-09-09 01:13 · Score: 4, Insightful

"...responding to an informal internet survey"
That pretty much says it right there. The numbers in this survey can be given about zero credence. There is no sign of vetting of the responders (are they even really MD's?), no pretense at a representative sample, and no sign that there was any attempt at all to prevent ballot stuffing.
There were also no questions concerning Donald Trump's health, which makes me think that this group is partisan and has an axe to grind.
Editors, can we please not publish click-bait non-news like this? I'd like to downvote the whole damn story.
aaps by phantomfive · 2016-09-09 01:17 · Score: 5, Informative

The AAPS is the group that sued to invalidate Obamacare.

That doesn't make them wrong, but I'd like to see more on their methodology; how many of the physicians didn't respond to the poll? How did they select respondents? Was it random, or was it based on membership in their organization?

Incidentally, Open Secrets shows that AAPS only donates to Republicans (unless they have some kind of sub-lobbying group or something).

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1. Re:aaps by Maritz · 2016-09-09 01:32 · Score: 2
  
  That doesn't make them wrong, but I'd like to see more on their methodology; how many of the physicians didn't respond to the poll? How did they select respondents? Was it random, or was it based on membership in their organization?
  That you are asking these questions means that you are not part of the target audience. They don't offer that information because they are trying to make you think things.
  
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Not a 'real' group. by 0100010001010011 · 2016-09-09 01:18 · Score: 5, Informative

There are countless faux doctor groups. This is one of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine."The group was reported to have approximately 4,000 members in 2005, and 5,000 in 2014. Notable members include Ron Paul and John Cooksey. Ron Paul's son, Rand Paul, was a member for over two decades until his election to the U.S. Senate.

In 2004, AAPS filed a brief on behalf of conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh in Florida's Fourth District Court of Appeal, opposing the seizure of his medical files in an investigation of drug charges for Limbaugh's alleged misuse of prescription drugs. The AAPS stated the seizure was a violation of state law and that 'It is not a crime for a patient to be in pain and repeatedly seek relief, and doctors should not be turned against patients they tried to help.'"

The next year, AAPS helped appeal the conviction of Virginia internist William Hurwitz, who was sentenced to 25 years in federal prison for prescribing excessive quantities of narcotic drugs after 16 former patients testified against him. Hurwitz was granted a retrial in 2006, and his 25-year prison sentence was reduced to 4 years and 9 months.

The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons is not listed in academic literature databases such as MEDLINE/PubMed or the Web of Science. The quality and scientific validity of articles published in the Journal have been criticized by medical experts, and some of the political and scientific viewpoints advocated by AAPS are not held by mainstream scientists and other medical groups.
1. Re:Not a 'real' group. by 0100010001010011 · 2016-09-09 02:36 · Score: 2
  I forgot to list their best of:
  that human activity has not contributed to climate change, and that global warming will be beneficial and thus not a cause for concern;
  that HIV does not cause AIDS;
  that the "gay male lifestyle" shortens life expectancy by 20 years.
  that there is a link between abortion and the risk of breast cancer.
  that there are possible links between autism and vaccinations.
  A series of articles by pro-life authors published in the journal argued for a link between abortion and breast cancer.
  that the Food and Drug Administration and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are unconstitutional;
  that "humanists" have conspired to replace the "creation religion of Jehovah" with evolution
  that "anchor babies" are valuable to undocumented immigrants, particularly if the babies are disabled.
All you need to know about these dickheads: by Maritz · 2016-09-09 01:18 · Score: 4, Informative

From Wikipedia.

"The association is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited theories, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast"cancer, and that there are links between autism and vaccinations."
Well that explains that.

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Proof by pitr256 · 2016-09-09 01:19 · Score: 2

Proving once again that rocket scientists are the smartest people in the room

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Re:Its a push poll, its a push poll by Maritz · 2016-09-09 01:28 · Score: 2, Informative

she's been having problems with siezures and freezing up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

No seizure in either of those. Other than that, well done. Turns out being a Drumpf fan makes you hallucinate seizures. Probably not that surprising.

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Re:Give it up Trumpsters by Maritz · 2016-09-09 01:29 · Score: 4, Interesting

Part of me perversely hopes you Trump fans get what you want. Because you're not going to get what you think you're getting, and it mildly bugs me that you are all so fucking stupid.

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Re:Give it up Trumpsters by 110010001000 · 2016-09-09 01:30 · Score: 2

The election already IS a joke. The Republican party is torn apart. It is a shame, because I view myself as a TRUE conservative. Not the neo-Born Again nuts like you and your buddies.
FUD at its finest by sjbe · 2016-09-09 01:31 · Score: 5, Insightful

What the hell is this crap and why is it on slashdot? When did slashdot turn into the Rush Limbaugh show? "Concerns" about Hillary's health are made up FUD by the right. Nothing more. Oooh, she got a concussion... (not) scary. Her health is certainly nothing worse than Dick Cheney's was. Ronald Reagan reputedly showed signs of dementia while still in office.
This "survey" is funded by a conservative group which has nothing to do with the real practice of medicine and certainly no interest in actual scientific facts. I'm disappointed the slashdot editors posted this drivel.
Why was this approved? by inicom · 2016-09-09 01:35 · Score: 5, Insightful

a) nothing to do with slashdot's "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters".
b) blatantly partisan
c) questionable news source

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Re:Let's face reality by Maritz · 2016-09-09 01:36 · Score: 2

Men are just meant to lead, that's why we don't fall apart like women do.
50% of humanity are meant to lead, yeah? I'm sorry, but "fucking stupid" is the only description that fits.
Is it just that your mind can't handle nuance? You think all men are the same? You think all women are the same?

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Newsflash by naris · 2016-09-09 01:37 · Score: 2

100% of Trump supporters claim Hillary is unfit for President!
Re:Give it up Trumpsters by Maritz · 2016-09-09 01:37 · Score: 3, Funny

Seems to be the case. I saw the other day Trump suggested that the military should have its own courts. The guy's a fucking genius.

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Not that anyone will see this, but I'm done here. by sirwired · 2016-09-09 01:43 · Score: 5, Insightful

I've been a reader of Slashdot since before they even had user accounts, and if I had felt like making my first comment with an account sooner, would have easily landed a 4-digit UID. I have a couple thousand comments to my name (though not many over the past couple of years), excellent karma, and a long history on this site. I've always been impressed with the commenting/moderation system, which I think remains the site's biggest innovation/strength, and one that I wish more websites would use to get control of their comment sections.
But over the years, I've watched Slashdot become less and less interesting as the quality of stories has gotten lower and lower. But this is the last straw.
Rarely have I seen the commentariat completely united in pointing out that this story was a bad idea:
- It's purely political with zero tech content.
- It's a direct repost from PRNewsWire
- It's all about a pathetic self-selected internet survey
- It comes from a group so political, it might as well be called "Doctors Against Filthy Liberals"
The comments section of Slashdot can be lively and interesting, but only if the editors pick something other than pathetic troll-bait to get the discussion going, and they've fallen down on that job horribly. Rob & co. knew how to get a discussion going; the latest bunch alternate between click-bait and the most abstruse and boring tech stories they can find.
After nearly 20 years with Slashdot, I'm done. I'm deleting the Slashdot feed from my RSS reader, and I guess it'll go on (or not) without me.
Re:This is why psychiatrists are not allowed to co by geekmux · 2016-09-09 01:50 · Score: 2

This is why psychiatrists/psychologists are not allowed to comment on the health of people who are not directly under their care. If you don't know what is going, you can't make a reasonable assessment of the subject's health. Doctors who have not reviewed the patient's medical file and made an examination of the subject should shut up because they do not have all of the information needed to make an accurate assessment.
This does not dismiss the one thing that needs to happen; release the medical records. That is a way that any qualified MD can make at least an initial assessment of someone's health and formulate and educated opinion, particularly in recommending her capability to hold a demanding job for the next four years. THAT is what is truly in question here; her capability to do an important job for quite a long time.
If she had merely caught the common cold 12 times in the last 2 years, I could understand people demanding only an opinion from someone who has directly examined her. However, that is far from reality, even with her medical history remaining somewhat private.
Re:Disgraceful - mod parent up by CmdrPorno · 2016-09-09 01:54 · Score: 2

Agree completely. Only a matter of time until /. is only valuable as a domain name, and someone buys it to redirect to CNET.

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Conservative Non Profit by kria · 2016-09-09 02:05 · Score: 2

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943 to "fight socialized medicine and to fight the government takeover of medicine."

Not to say Wikipedia is an awesome source, but I admit I'm really not in the mood to dig up something more definitive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Re:This is why psychiatrists are not allowed to co by Nidi62 · 2016-09-09 02:06 · Score: 2

This is why psychiatrists/psychologists are not allowed to comment on the health of people who are not directly under their care. If you don't know what is going, you can't make a reasonable assessment of the subject's health. Doctors who have not reviewed the patient's medical file and made an examination of the subject should shut up because they do not have all of the information needed to make an accurate assessment.
This does not dismiss the one thing that needs to happen; release the medical records. That is a way that any qualified MD can make at least an initial assessment of someone's health and formulate and educated opinion, particularly in recommending her capability to hold a demanding job for the next four years. THAT is what is truly in question here; her capability to do an important job for quite a long time.
If she had merely caught the common cold 12 times in the last 2 years, I could understand people demanding only an opinion from someone who has directly examined her. However, that is far from reality, even with her medical history remaining somewhat private.
I say she should agree to release her medical records when Trump agrees to release his tax returns. Fair trade, right?

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SOURCE CHECK MISSING! by FaxeTheCat · 2016-09-09 02:27 · Score: 2

Why cannot the moderators take 20 seconds to check the source of this rubbish?
John McCain by sycodon · 2016-09-09 02:28 · Score: 2, Informative

hmmm... sounds Familiar
Where have I read about this kind of thing before
In fact, even the big dogs in the press admit they've gone down this road before. Of course, they claim "it's different".
In the past, the media just went Full Stupid about McCain and his health issues.
I guess the difference is McCain released all his records and we knew what he faced health-wise. Will Hillary show the same courage?

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Re: This is why psychiatrists are not allowed to c by BarbaraHudson · 2016-09-09 02:31 · Score: 2

Psychiatrists and psychologists have the same First Amendment rights as anyone else. That includes freedom to express their opinions and beliefs. The fact that this survey, crappy as it is, exists, should be proof enough.

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Re:This is why psychiatrists are not allowed to co by stabiesoft · 2016-09-09 02:38 · Score: 2

And if she "needs to" release her records then trump needs to do the same. He is older, and a man so has a shorter life expectancy than her. He is fat as a cow, gets very little exercise, so may well be diabetic and the only thing his quack of a doctor released was a fluff statement that he was healthiest man ever to run. Don't forget trump was also so unhealthy as a young man that he got 2 or 3 medical deferments. So I would expect him to be in poor health as an adult if he was in such poor condition when he was young. I'd also think he should be thoroughly examined for STD's given his proclivity for younger woman and his close friendship with that casting couch roger ailes.
What kind of morons let this drivel pass? by hyades1 · 2016-09-09 02:42 · Score: 5, Insightful

"The [Association of American Physicians and Surgeons] is generally recognized as politically conservative or ultra-conservative, and its publication advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there are links between autism and vaccinations".
Way to go. Slashdot has been reduced to giving anti-vaxxers and homophobes and fundamentalist nut cases an uncritical platform to publish propaganda about a presidential candidate.
Nice work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons

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Association of American Physicians and Surgeons by rlk · 2016-09-09 02:52 · Score: 2

This organization is hardly impartial. It's a conservative organization that was originally formed in the 1940's to fight "socialized medicine". It takes a number of decidedly off-beat positions, including that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, that human activity doesn't contribute to climate change (what this has to do with medicine is beyond me), and so forth. See their Wikipedia entry.
Now, having an opinion isn't grounds for not voicing one, but under the circumstances I think this is relevant information about this group.
Re:Could this be the way out? by rickb928 · 2016-09-09 03:36 · Score: 2

They are not getting Bernie out of his summer house. He knows better.
And if Hillary were to quit the race, it would be a feeding frenzy of wannbe candidates seemingly out of nowhere. Magnificent theatre. Buy extra popcorn.

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What? You don't like Trump's new campaign manager? by denzacar · 2016-09-09 03:38 · Score: 2

Why, it's only the guy who founded Citizen's United, bringing about the world of "Superpacks" - over an anti-Hillary "documentary".
Hey... remember that time he tried framing Bill Clinton for murder?
That's your world now, at least until elections.

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Re:Give it up Trumpsters by rickb928 · 2016-09-09 03:38 · Score: 2

Since they already do, it's an easy promise.
You aware of the UCMJ?

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Re:Not that anyone will see this, but I'm done her by x_IamSpartacus_x · 2016-09-09 05:38 · Score: 2

So sorry to see you go. I have only been on Slashdot for about 10 years and I'm disgusted by this story too.

Whipslash, please address how the editors royally screwed up by approving this story. A simple, "We're sorry for this" would go a long way.

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