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A Woman Is Suing Her Parents For Posting Embarrassing Childhood Photos To Facebook
Earlier this year, we ran a story which talked about how a parent could be sued by their kids for posting their photos on Facebook. Over the past two years, we have seen several such cases, and now we have another one. From a report on NYMag:An 18-year-old woman in Carinthia, Austria, is suing her parents over the 500-odd childhood photos they've posted of her on Facebook without her consent. "They knew no shame and no limit and didn't care whether it was a picture of me sitting on the toilet or lying naked in my cot -- every stage was photographed and then made public," she told The Local, an English-language Austrian newspaper. She went on, "I'm tired of not being taken seriously by my parents," who, despite her requests, have refused to take the photos down. The woman's father reportedly believes he's in the right to post the pictures because he took them. But her lawyer is adamant that if he can prove the photos violated the woman's right to privacy, her parents could be forced to pay damages and legal fees.
can we see those photos?
Be or ben't
Someone clearly needs to "Grow The Fuck Up" (tm).
Part of life. Get over yourself.
It has been some years since specialists began to warn about the dangers of over exposition of children online.
Linux is for people who don't mind RTFM.
I'm trying to wrap my brain around a parent who says no to their child's request that photos of the child be taken down from the Internet. This isn't even an issue of good parenting, it's an issue of common courtesy!
Sounds like a person with a mental disorder who should be receiving professional treatment, not receiving accolades for trying to extort money from the people who took pride in being able to raise a daughter and sharing that joy with others.
For the people who perpetually live on the slippery slope whinery, if the parents were posting legally "bad" photos they would be in jail.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
And tell her to be a good kid.
Do parents need consent if they are already granted the rights to make legal decisions for their under 18-year-old children? Can't they just decide for the kid as is their obligation and right?
Christmas dinner is going to be AWKWARD!
The days of her parents not taking her very seriously are coming to a middle.
Must be a Millennial.
Seriously, she has more chance of winning this lawsuit than the one she is filing. If she wins, next people will start filing lawsuit against parents for buying bicycle since she fell off the bike or buying a wrong brand of diapers.
According to Wikipedia, the age of majority in Austria is 18.
Whether you win or lose, they can literally kick you out of their home and cut off all support.
I wonder if you really thought this through.
Let me take a stab at this: the parents are wealthy.
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“They knew no shame and no limit and didn’t care whether it was a picture of me sitting on the toilet or lying naked in my cot — every stage was photographed and then made public,” ...
Well, now....Isn't posting pictures of naked children bad? I don't know about the child pornography laws in Austria, but here in the States, her parents would go to jail and then have to be registered as sex offenders and their lives would be over.
Because *gasp* some perv may get off on them!
People will sue for anything these days. I get the premise,and the embarrassment, but to go as far as to sue? for actual cash revenue? from her parents? She must either A.) Hate her parents or B.) Is greedy a hell. Considering she's 18 I am wondering if she was at some point financially cut off from her parents, and this is a way to retaliate. Then again I could be wrong.
Seems that would be a legit, legal reason enough right there to remove them; considering she was obviously not 18...
The only real choice for 2016:
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Nothing even comes close.
Then i'd disown her and refuse contact for the rest of my life until she crawled back with an apology. What an ungrateful asshole.
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I really and truly fucking hate them.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
At least here in the USA, such things have happened (kids filing lawsuits against their parents over various grievances) -- but I think 99.9% of the population takes a very dim view of it.
I guess I'm ok with the legal OPTION being available for such things? But it seems really extreme. I'm not sure that most minor kids fully realize the ramifications of doing such a thing. I mean ... as much as you may dislike your parents embarrassing you with your childhood photos, you may later decide that was "nothing" compared to a lifetime of not communicating with your parents anymore (which is VERY likely to be the outcome if you won a lawsuit against them).
This isn't really about the photos per se.
To be bothered by something so ordinary is pathological, so ask yourselves, why is she so self conscious to be bothered by this ordinary thing.
There is actually a big clue in the story, the parents refused to take down the photos because the "father _owns_ them".
That shows a complete lack of empathy for ones own child is hugely narcissistic.
Let me take a stab at this: the parents are wealthy.
Vicarious parent trying to control the child is more likely.
Is it Barbra Streisand's daughter?
Some mistakes have to be made ourselves before we can learn from them.
"Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war.
For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."
time is short, get your self together and make a change
Both. The daughter suing her parents over this is absurd but the parents not removing them when it evidently upsets her this much is appalling.
So, what should she do if her parents refuse to remove photos, including her "sitting on the toilet or lying naked in my cot"?
You're telling me it's "absurd" for her to sue, and she should "Grow The Fuck Up (tm)". But you're not telling me what she should actually do. What choices does she have other than suing?
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Real life is coming - for all of you. Boo!
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Slash.... This is trash..... Don't make me go back to that other site.
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"I'm tired of not being taken seriously by my parents,"
Sounds very immature for an 18 year old. Can't get her own way so throw a massive hissy fit until her parents give in.
Yup, that's the way to go to make yourself look more mature.
I wonder who she'll go running back to if she loses and ends up with a big legal bill she can't pay by herself ?
Holy Fugging Sheet this is my parents in an absolute nutshell. My father was a professional photographer most of my life so there is a literal mountain of pictures of me as a kid. And, of course, they cherry pick out the most absolutely fucking embarrassing ones along with their now distorted view of the background of the picture that is always, somehow, is 10x worse then reality. Of course they will argue through their teeth what they remember is the absolute truth. I honestly think they relish in the whole production. I'm desensitized to it now, hell it's been 30+ solid years of it...
I don't think I would ever sue my parents, but I can understand where this all is coming from.
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle"
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
My parents would proudly display my third-grade art projects for anyone who entered the house. To my teenage self, it was mortifying.
To my adult self, I couldn't really care less. Things change. Also, my mom's been taking pottery lessons in her retirement, and I keep some of her "early works" around the house, and it achieves the desired result.
Maybe this case is different, I sure hope I'm underestimating the plaintiff/daughter. But for a teenager, any reminders of early childhood are pretty much the Worst Thing Ever. They'll grow out of it.
Pics or it didn't happen!
What's that? Not so quick to post naked pictures of your niece?
Perhaps now you understand the issue better.
There was an awesome 'ER' episode where the abused daughter refused to place her elderly, demented father in a home.
She preferred to keep him at home, where she could 'take care' of him. The look of terror in the old man's eyes was priceless.
It was chilling, and thoroughly cathartic and enjoyable to consider.
I'd take them down, then thar would be the last she ever heard of me. "You are no longer in our life, person - is that taking you seriously enough?"
If your response to everyone that gets mad at you for something you did is to shut them out of your life forever you're going to live a pretty lonely life. Doubly so if those people are your children. Shutting a child out of your life is an absolutely brutal thing to do. I have direct experience in my family of what this is like. Parents who do this for any reason other than self protection are assholes.
You are correct about not knowing the dynamics of the situation. but if a child of mine ever sued me for anything, it would be the last contact they'd ever have with me.
Based on your response that might be good thing. You sound unbalanced and I'm guessing you don't have children. You seriously believe that no matter how badly you behave the child should never be able to drag you in to court? Some parents are terrible, abusive, mean, or manipulative. Some parents steal from their children or beat them or abuse them both physically and psychologically. There is a reason emancipated minors are a thing. If an adult (she is 18) child actually gets to the point where you behavior has made them think that the only means to get you to behave nicely is to sue you then the problem is most likely YOU. What exactly do the parents lose by taking the pictures down? Nothing. They are keeping them up just out of spite and/or disrespect for self indulgent reasons. I'm having trouble seeing any scenario where the parents are the good guys here.
If I posted a picture of someone and they asked me to take it down I see no reason to be a jerk about it and ignore the request. Granted going to court about it is pretty extreme but it's entirely conceivable that it is justified (or possibly not). Frankly I wouldn't want all my childhood pictures being posted publicly either so I get where the daughter is coming from. I don't have a facebook account for this very reason among others. Some people value their privacy and don't want everyone in the world to see every detail of their lives. Reasonable people will honor this point of view so long as it causes no harm and none could possibly come from taking down the pictures..
The obvious answer is to ignore it. Non-mentally-ill adults do not experience "emotional distress" over the fact that people may see some of their baby pictures.
Why should she ignore it? That will not solve her problem. They are pictures of her, not pictures of you and they affect her. There can be real consequences to having even seemingly innocent information made public. Maybe you don't care but she's entitled to a different opinion. I don't like having pictures of me posted without my consent either. It's one of the reasons I don't participate in facebook. The parents are being very disrespectful and possibly harmful. It costs them nothing to take the pictures down and respect her harmless request for privacy. Mentally ill people are those who lack empathy for others and the parents are the ones showing a distinct lack of it here.
I can get on board with the notion that suing might be overkill here but there is no objective reason for the parents to persist their behavior. I very much doubt they would like naked pictures of themselves posted publicly. The fact that she is a child in the pictures makes them arguably child porn if she really wants to play hardball over it. Just because someone is your parent doesn't make any and all behavior towards their child acceptable.
where they will use every metric you can imagine and quite a few you probably can't to track this girl the rest of her natural life.
Also, don't they claim ownership of everything posted? Maybe she should be telling Facebook to take them down and if they don't comply sue them instead.
Facebook has dark profiles on people who don't have accounts. They do facial recognition and other shit to harvest as much data as absolutely possible. Embarrassing or not her parents have murdered her privacy for life. Damage is probably already done.
Rules tend to be different when it's non sexualized photos of an infant. That's likely the case here.
What is "sexual" is very much dependent on the viewer. Some people have fetishes I could not begin to imagine being arousing but nevertheless they are real. Just because the parents are too dense to grasp that fact doesn't make it less true. Do you really want somebody with tendencies towards child molestation pleasuring themselves over your child's pictures? There are people who do that you know. It's not hard to make an argument that any picture of a naked child could be considered child porn. And it is entirely reasonable to not want such pictures of oneself posted for all the world to see for that reason alone.
There is no reason for the parents to not honor their child's reasonable request. The fact that the child had to get unreasonable about how she made her request speaks to how unreasonable the parents are being.
Tell Daddy that he shouldnt have taken those nudy pictures of his little girl and threaten to charge him with child porn if he doesnt take them down.... LOl
problem solved
It's much more likely the daughter is a hypersensitive, unsympathetic, thoughtless, self-absorbed twit.
Disagree. I think we have some parents who lack empathy, are emotionally abusive and lack common courtesy. If someone posted naked pictures of me at any age publicly I'd be entirely within my rights to be pissed off at that asshole. Whether they see it as a problem or not is irrelevant. Now I'm sure there is more at play here than this one little incident but based on the facts at hand I have to say the parents are WAY out of line here.
Disclaimer: I have a teenage daughter.
And do you go out of your way to embarrass her or cause her emotional distress? If she made a harmess request of you would you tell her to get bent? Do you care so little for her feelings?
....enough said.
This fucking generation "something made me unhappy how can i litigate it out of existence, i have a right to only ever be happy!"
So now it's compassion to give money and harbor to ungrateful losers who don't realize that THEY have requirements and responsibilities too? So it's just dad that has to do all the fucking work? WTF is wrong with your generation? That kind of attitude was considered a mental disorder 25 years ago.
I don't have a cent invested in anything that isn't real estate - because I don't like play money investments. Land doesn't go anywhere.
My daughters aren't going to make much money, sadly. Maybe they'll marry up, but I doubt it. Menial labor is their fate.
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it does not have to be $
He shouldn't post anything that hurts his daughter.
Condoms prevent children who later sue their parents.
Europeans are some real simpering pussies, huh? Those people wiped your retarded Eurotrash ass for years, they have a right to post pictures about it princess.
If you want to live in a world where parents are not allowed to have responsibility for their children but it is abdicated to the government this is the sort of thing you get.
Puhlease don't act surprised when you loose all of your free speech rights if you don't protect everyone else's.
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" but here in the States, her parents would go to jail "
No they wouldn't. Now you're just being dumb.
Well, maybe not "just now"
According to another newspaper (Berliner Morgenpost) this story might be a hoax. Suspeced reasons: There is a single source for this story (Austrian tabloid "Die ganze Woche"), the court cited in the article doesn't know anything about this case, her lawyer cited in this article doesn't know anything about this case, the newspaper that is the only source doesn't comment on inquiries at all and the people involved in the lawsuit can't be contacted directly because their identities are not known. All of this makes the chances this is made up pretty high.
Today's experiment
hey moron - there's a BIG difference between "someone getting mad at you" and someone SUING you.
Based on your response, you're an idiot. You sound unbalanced and I'm guessing that you're a neckbeard that's never had sex outside of your palm. You seriously believe, without knowing all of the info, that a child should never be able to drag you to court? Some parents are great, loving, happy, and caring. Some kids steal from their children or their children beat them or abuse then both physically and psychologically. If an adult child actually sues their parents perhaps they are spoiled brats who didn't get their way and the problem is actually THE CHILD. What exactly does the child lose by suing their parents at 18 (not even figuring out who is PAYING for the lawyer)? Potentially everything. I'm having trouble seeing ANY scenario where the kid is the good guy here.
If you posted a picture of someone and they asked you to take it down, it's your choice not to take it down. Just the same that it would be your choice to leave it up. Frankly, if your parents have pics of your childhood, it's their right to post them if they want to share with THEIR friends. We're glad you don't have a facebook account - you're probably one of those crazies who think you have privacy in public or the internet. Besides, seeing duck-lip pics of a sasquatch neckbeard isn't something most of us want to see anyways.
Reasonable people would see that a majority of the pictures cause no harm to this spoiled brat and she should be taught a lesson that just because she doesn't agree with something doesn't mean she's going to get her way.
US culture prides itself on taking things to the extreme. Look at all the examples:
* The completely absurd tipping customs and expectations, which, unbelievably, continue to get worse
* The widespread practice of suing anybody for anything, which, amazingly, is met with applause rather than disgust
* The ridiculous truck culture, where people go into debt to buy diesel trucks the size of small houses for... drum roll please... grocery shopping and driving to work
Feel free to add your own -- cultural absurdities are easy to come by in the US.
I know i'm feeding a troll now, but heck...
A parent does not OWN their kids.. They are not their property... It's their responsibility to take care of and make sure they behave, but the kids have all the same rights to privacy as anyone else..
Posting a picture publicly of their child falls under the same rules as posting a picture of some random adult person they meet..
"I'm tired of my parents not taking me seriously."
Says the 18 year-old!
Fracking awesome. I might not STOP laughing.
> "The woman's father reportedly believes he's in the right to post the pictures because he took them."
Well, sounds like I have a trip to Austria to make. Specifically, to right outside this guy's window, to take some pictures of him while he's changing, which I will then have the right to post, because they were my pictures, right? Apparently, according to this guy's logic...
But the parent DOES OWN those pictures. See this why it has to come down to court and why we can't have nice things.