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Russia Bans Pornhub, YouPorn - Tells Citizens To Meet Someone In Real Life (arstechnica.com)
Russia has blocked two of the biggest porn websites. The Russian state watchdog Roskomnadzor, which oversees internet in the country, announced that it was blockeing Pornhub and YouPorn. When a Russian citizen asked on Twitter about an alternative, it replied; "as an alternative you can meet someone in real life,". From a report: The regulator dropped the banhammer on Tuesday, applying rules which had previously been imposed by two separate regional courts. Any Russian citizen visiting PornHub or YouPorn is now redirected to a simple message telling them that the sites have been blocked "by decision of public authorities." Sexually explicit material isn't illegal in the country, but according to the BBC's Vitaliy Shevchenko, the law confusingly appears to ban "the illegal production, dissemination, and advertisement of pornographic materials and objects."
No dates, no nagging, no money spent on dates, no diseases.... Poor russians will have to use proxies I guess.
Good thing for those Russian officials that PornHub was the only naughty picture site on the entire internet....
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Paying a real prostitute for sex will benefit Russia economy instead of sending your money to overseas porn sites. Russian fellows, remember to use protection.
To hack into Bill Clintons porn stash
Porn site should exclusively be PAID website with Credit Card, there should be no FREE streaming, that way, you could almost ensure that your 12 year old is not watching a bukakkee and thinking that it's the norm
As Pornhub is also used for non-porn videos because no one else is willing to show them. So those dangerous subversive ideas would be blocked.
Bigger companies like YouTube the government and negotiate with and get whatever they feel like blocked. But having a high ranking minister talking to the CEO of a Porn company will not be good politically.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I dunno man, herpes seems a lot sadder than a lonely fap every now and again ...
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Russian State Watchdog to Citizens: "We invented vodka for a reason. Go outside and get laid!"
Have you ever met a native Russian? Spend about 5 minutes in their company and you'll see why they're clamoring to get their porn back.
Oh fuck off. The ultimate sadness is all these people with a problem how I get my jollies watching porn. I am happy, married, and well adapted.
Thanks for sharing your sincerely felt non-troll opinion. It's really interesting. In Russia, Dear Leader Putin does what He likes, and in this case, he doesn't like PornHub. Boo, PornHub!
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
Don't you have a healthy view of the world.
What the ugly and/or poor men should do? rape? I guess that's their only option left now.
Or maybe the feminist supporting this "ban" meant for the ugly/poor men to acknowledge that they are useless piece of shit and kill themselves.
What if they don't consent?
Russia: "What is this word, 'consent'?"
a thick-thighed horse-hung Brazilian tranny and take her out for coffee?
Well then what the fuck are you doing here?
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
But what about other entertainment? Watching people kill each other is sad too. Go meet someone real and kill them.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
You know the source domain of a link is shown after the link, right?
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
There are plenty of people in Russia and the rest of the world who are unable to 'meet someone else' regardless of time/money/effort involved. The fat, the ugly, the smelly, the severely anxious, the obviously crazy, the unwittingly creepy, etc. You think if having actual sex was attainable (never mind affordable or remotely worth the effort) that porn would even exist? It's where people go when they can't get any real action. Sure, for some it's just fap fodder because they struck out at the bar or their booty calls were busy. For others, it's all the sex life they have.
I expect violence in Russia to increase shortly.
And the rest of porn sites? Why are these two singled out? What's the sense of banning just two?
Rome taught me patience and assiduous application to detail. Virtues which temper the boldness of great, general views.
Those aren't the only two choices...
#DeleteChrome
I met one, and she's fun, but every once in a while, about once a month, she needs a break for a few days. I find that's a good time to get to know the wonderful world of internet again.
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The subtext for all of this is that "The west" is failing. Specifically the west is failing to live up to its own, stated, standard.
Freedom of speech is curtailed, democracy is used to advance ideas that tend to make society less successful.
Freely available porn is one of those things. Its a "west" thing and officialy considered as such by russian government.
Religions discovered this a long time ago.
That when people think about sexual gratification all the time they don't build much outside of the bedroom.
On the other hand maybe someone just bribed the Russian government to be a sole porn provider on the Russian internet.
The Youtube channel PrankInvasion is an alternative.. It is a softcore porn / fake "prank" channel
"I'm fairly sure if they took porn off the Internet there would only be one website left, called bringbacktheporn!" - Dr. Perry Cox
as an alternative you can meet someone in real life
In Soviet Russia, people of opposite sex meet YOU!
I like that Russian citizens are tweeting their government internet watchdog asking for porn site recommendations. And getting a snarky answer. That's hilarious to me.
Porn is the only answer to the question "What do you do if no woman wants to meet YOU?"
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Do you think the people watching porn wouldn't prefer a real woman if they had the OPTION? Some of us would love to meet a real woman, have sex, fall in love, etc. The problem is that no real woman wants to meet, have sex, or fall in love with *US*.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
But what if that real human you meet also likes to watch porn?
Restaurants, Bars, and Mail-Order Bridal businesses will see a nice boost in revenue.
Good thing Donald Trump isn;t in debt upto his eyeballs with Russi...... oh wait....
Man, them circles are HUGE. And that line-thin waist, GOT DAM!
The article is kind of useless, it doesn't say what technology is being used to block websites.
This article is a little better. The government keeps a central database of websites that should be blocked (or sometimes just individual pages, from what I understand).
Each ISP (or network operator) is required to download the database of blocked pages, and get updates every day. Many of the ISPs don't have real filtering capability, so they just block the website at the IP level. If they don't block the content (and some don't), then they get a fine.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Being an "Escort Wagon", I can presume what other options you're talking about...
When the nerd meets the real human, the real human beats the nerd up.
> What the ugly and/or poor men should do?
Obviously you're joking, but your comment reminded me of something. If you're ugly, broke, and can write quicksort in at least two languages, you can get laid all the time. I'm ugly, I was broke. I couldn't get girls.
Then I learned *how* to meet women. I RTFM about what really attracts most women, not just in the first 10 seconds but in conversation. I was amazed to find that I could *learn* how to get dates, that my face and my bank weren't the crucial factors. If you can learn how to write quicksort, you can learn how to get dates. I dated a *lot* of women, until I found my one-in-a-million.
One day I may finish writing my book "Dating for Nerds" or whatever I call it.
Porn is the only answer to the question "What do you do if no woman wants to meet YOU?"
Porn is the only answer to the question "What do you do if no woman wants to fuck YOU?"
FTFY
"Fapping to someone else having sex is the ultimate sadness."
I can well imagine that there are worse things. At least in this situation you know your sex drive works.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I'm married, happy, and watch porn with my SO. As for what the fuck I'm doing here, I'm here laughing at your specific type while I'm waiting on my next VoIP consultation to happen.
What the fuck are YOU doing here? Probably being lonely and mad at others who have a life.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Banning is useless. The offensive material will just move elsewhere. Vaya con dios PornHub. Viva RedTube!!!
Buncha fucking jerkoffs!!! Don't shoot your own wad in your eye.
My first program:
Hell Segmentation fault
Shit, I'm not even at that level yet. I'd be happy if a woman even wanted to talk to me.
Wait, What?
There's a manual?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
So they're becoming more like the UK. How awful!
Russians should go meet the mother and/or wife of every politician behind this decision.
All the women seem to be fighting over a handful of rich good-looking guys. I don't think there are any left for us fat poor guys.
The worst part about being fat and poor is that wonderful moment when you think a woman is actually interested (finally! horray!) and you ask her out, only to find out she was just being friendly. I bet that never happens to George Clooney.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
http://pikabu.ru/story/eshche_... :D
The image says: "Come on over - it still works in Belarus". About the most epic thing to come out of Belarus in recent memory...
Fuck off, little shit.
You first.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
A lack of sex drive would actually be better for many: You can stop caring about it, and get on with productive things.
The worst is the single person: You have a deep instinct lodged in your brain, always whispering to go seek a mate, sometimes screaming "GO GET LAID NOW!" It distracts you, it frustrates you, it makes focusing on anything else a challenge, and you can never escape it. You can at least quiet it for a while with porn and masturbation, but it will always return.
Soon everyone in the country will know how to bypass the blocks.
Let's see... comment designed to insult... repulsive, check.
Personality with appeal to mob mentality, selfishness, and total lack of empathy, fugly, check.
On Slashdot... a nerd, check.
If you're gonna be a worthless piece of shit, why not keep it to yourself?
"Just go out and meet someone"
First of all, I have a strong suspicion that "just going out and meeting someone" would be considered a far worse option by my wife than porn watching, just sayin'.
Second, even if I were single, there's no equivalence there. If I go out and meet someone... and by meet someone I mean find someone attractive and stare at them while publicly masturbating, as one might hypothetically do with porn, that's going to be A) probably unsatisfying for me B) almost certainly more than a little bit awkward for them, and C) illegal in most places.
Meeting people and romance and love and actual sex and all that fun stuff is great, but that's not what porn is about. It's like saying "I'm hungry, and you've taken away all the food." "Well, why don't you go out and buy a jacket?" Sure clothing and food fall in the same general category of "necessities", but that doesn't make them interchangeable.
Pound! Bang! Bin! Bash! is this a shell script or a Batman comic?
Porn doesn't stop people from having relationships. People who want to get married and have kids usually do so. People who don't want to do this, don't. The watching of porn is just something on the side in either case.
There is a segment of the population who doesn't have good luck with women, and so they turn to porn as an outlet. Taking the porn away won't suddenly make them transform into someone that women want, nor will it motivate them to go out and try harder. It will just motivate them to find other ways of getting access to porn.
*ALL* black markets work that way. You take away what they want, they find another way to get it.
You've got no code, no porn, and you're ugly. Let's dance!
In Soviet Russia, porn bans you!
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
Punish the seller, not the buyer. That is the classic tactic of making anything illegal in any country.
Also, what happened to xvideos, redtube and Google?
So what you do man. All that other stuff is over rated. You get a girl, have sex and end up wanting another. You get that one, and still want another. You are programmed to always want something else. Pr0n makes it ez. So heads up, keep doing what you doing, don't give in to society's bs of what you should be.
But what about other entertainment? Watching people kill each other is sad too. Go meet someone real and kill them.
Been there, done that, got the bloody gloves to prove it. Too damn bad they don't fit no more.
- OJ Simson.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
With sufficiently low standards and self-esteem, any human can breed.
Vodka is a Polish invention
There's a reason Russian women advertise so heavily for a Western male. Russian men have some of the shortest lifespans outside of third world countries. Right now the typical Russian male can expect to live to 58 thanks in large part to their drunken habits. Even less so if they're inclined to "vacation" in Ukraine where over 2,000 of their countrymen have died already while on "vacation".
Telling people to go meet someone in real life in a country with a high drunkenness rate combined with the normally abusive nature of Russian men does not bode well for trying to get Russia's population to breed.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
You have two other options.
1) Improve yourself.
2) Lower your standards/expectations.
I strongly recommend a lot of #1, and probably at least a little of #2. The internet discovered #1 about 20 years ago, then refined and weaponized it, so there is plenty of self-help material available.
See that "Preview" button?
I think it's unlikely that no woman in the entire world would want you. Some people really are insufferable, but it's a very small minority.
The real problem is that finding someone who wants you is hard. Dating sites are terrible for most guys, because the male/female ratio is extremely high and thus women have the pick of the most physically attractive and wealthy guys.
It's also about having realistic expectations. We would all love to date an insanely hot engineer who can hold a great conversation, but waiting for her will lead to a life of loneliness. No one is perfect, least of all you, so be prepared to be realistic and tolerant of a few flaws.
It helps if you relax and try not to worry about it.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I was reading a forum post about prostitution some time ago and a woman who was for prohibition essentially said (not with these words of course) that if men could get sex from prostitutes they would put less effort in seducing proper women. Yeah, you read it right, she was against prositution because it hurt her chances of meeting her blue prince.
If you think about it, it's the same reason (some) women talk badly about other women that they think give out sex too easily. i.e.: without a sufficient commitment (financial, sentimental, etc.) from the man they're having sex with.
so, apparently in soviet russia....
the woman DOESN'T meet you.
That has to be the best advice from a government organization in all of time ever, past, present and future.
Do you think the people watching porn wouldn't prefer a real woman if they had the OPTION? Some of us would love to meet a real woman, have sex, fall in love, etc. The problem is that no real woman wants to meet, have sex, or fall in love with *US*.
Oh please. The idea that "people" (you mean male geeks,right?) watch porn because "no real woman" wants to meet them is ludicrous. The fact that you put "have sex" in front of "fall in love" reveals your priority with meeting a "real woman" I submit though, that you don't want a "real woman" but instead want a living fuck doll because that's the kind of women you see in porn - some slut willing to cater to your every sexual craving. You really need to stop watching porn, because it has apparently has warped the fuck out of your perception of women. You're never going meet a "real woman", because your idea of a "real woman" is a masturbatory fantasy.
The trick is to be friendly and supportive first, so she gets to know you. Dating someone you know is not an asshat is quite attractive, for a start, but there's even more to it than that.
You know how when you see a character in a TV show week after week and start to find them attractive, but then years later catch a rerun and can't seem to recall what you liked about them? Familiarity and getting to know them and their story is attractive, even if they are not stunningly good looking or your normal "type".
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Masturbation to porn serves a useful function in a world filled with the slightly-smarter animals known as homo sapiens: it's a pressure-relief valve for the buildup of sexual tension, especially for the male of the species. Otherwise they'd have to seek out the opposite sex for that purpose, which presents a whole laundry list of potential problems. Without pornography to assist masturbation, there very well could be an increase in incidence of rape, and also of transmission of STDs through casual sex. Dumb move, Russia.
I'm afraid that "meeting someone" doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get laid. And I say that as someone with tons of experience being in dating situations where I was essentially "friend-zoned" -- I'm not a bad person, I'm not a slob, I don't smell bad, nothing is wrong with me physically.
However, that said, I am self-deprecating. And because I'm not a typical alpha male, women are able to smell the desperation apparently.
Let's face it -- woman have sex to "keep their man", so he won't wander off and find someone else. In my situation, the women are well-aware that I won't wander off, so they have no problem dating me, but never actually doing anything beyond having dinner and going to the movies.
So, Russia can go stick it. Men are still going to need porn and prostitutes, because majority of the female population isn't necessarily into them.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
Is that what your wife says to you when you want to watch?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
The problem is that no real woman wants to meet, have sex, or fall in love with *US*.
I call lazy BS. Porn usage is a complex subject, but the bottom line is usually the following, IMO: Porn is easy (and mostly free). Relationships are hard (and usually expensive).
Take a chance, bro. Going through the growing pains of a relationship is more than worth it to have a mate you can love in every way.
Cue George Costanza and the Seinfeld "Abstinence" episode. It's funny because it's true....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0697646/
I'm willing to bet Russia is trying to manage it's fertility rate. It was as low as 1.59 children per woman in 2012, closer to 1.75 recently. 1.59 is rather low in terms of maintaining your population.
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
I met one, and she's fun, but every once in a while, about once a month, she needs a break for a few days.
You should meet her sister during those few days.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
They blocked .001% of the available porn! What shall those poor Russians do!?
*News flash* Russia GDP nose-dives...
Do you think the people watching porn wouldn't prefer a real woman if they had the OPTION? Some of us would love to meet a real woman, have sex, fall in love, etc. The problem is that no real woman wants to meet, have sex, or fall in love with *US*.
Please do not generalize. Just because this is true for *you* doesn't mean it's true for *me*.
I'm currently in a phase where I don't *want* the complications that a physical relationship brings, after a decade long relationship went sour.
I'm sufficiently attractive, wealthy, single, etc, and enough women seem to be attracted to me.
But I never liked one night stands, and women in my age range usually already had one or more kids, and they usually come with family that you can't pick but still have to deal with.
Call it a selfish phase if you want, but porn is a convenient way for me to fulfill my biological needs, without having to deal with emotional baggage.
I also see porn as the enabler of male emancipation. Women everywhere control males through (withholding) sex. That may sound like misogyny, but if you ever watched male-female relationships closely, you'll know it's the truth. In societies without porn, males are frustrated, angry, and prone to violence towards women.
Dating sites are terrible for most guys, because the male/female ratio is extremely high and thus women have the pick of the most physically attractive and wealthy guys.
Fortunately, I've not had to use a dating site ever because I married the right woman early in my adulthood! However, I have 2 stats for you. 1 is disheartening, the other may be encouraging.
First, disheartening for all those guys not have sex. 20% of all guys have 80% of all the sex.
Now the encouraging statistic. Men might out-number women in your age bracket; however, I read an article not too long ago that said that once you hit late-thirties, men get more success than women from dating apps. The reason for this is 2 fold. 1) Women are more likely to date older men than men dating older women- so age works in your advantage. 2) Women are more interested in finding a man as they age.
So yeah, 20's and 30's you have a lot more competition- numbers work in favour of the ladies... By the time you're in your 40's the girls will be fighting over you!
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Or get a dog. One that doesn't have a temper or sharp teeth.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Umm that's the order it usually happens. Meet them, dates, have sex, fall in love, married. Sorry we aren't Christian like you are and get married first because God told us to. No where in his post did he prioritize the list. You put a priority on it. The fact that he said etc should tell you that. But no, you are just bitter and have horrible reading skills.
Maybe. I think, rather, he's merely worried about one of his home-videos appearing there and him not looking as "manly" as the fellows in the other videos. He's worried he's too short.
Well wipty fucking do. Enson Crusher, is that you?
He wasn't talking about everyone obviously, the fact you thought he was says something painfully obvious about you.
Hey guys looks, it's a Mr. Look At Me.
Have fun being chewed up and spit out by the 'family' courts if you end up on the wrong side of that 50% divorce rate.
The best.
All you porn addicted losers should just shut the fuck up. Sad!
I think it's unlikely that no woman in the entire world would want you.
True, there are prositutes, but that is just live porn.
Solution! They can just order one of those mail-order Russian Brides! They'd save a ton on shipping! ;-)
So, like, plastic surgery? Make your dong longer?
DIY plastic surgery? With 3D printers?
And always wear a condom. More importantly, always wear a condom. Did I mention, always wear a condom?
* PS - Not looking for a woman. But I do look at porn to starve off the natural sex drive. VHEMT. Just like Jesus or any good Christian**.
** Not a Christian.
You seem the believe that men how can't get laid are "nerd"? You must be the one joking? Or are you implying that all the disfigured/handicaped/ugly men should just hang themselves?
Since is it not mandatory to women to have sex with any men asking, what are their option? Really. Think about it. Hard.
Prostitution is illegal, nor porn is too. What is left? Rape?
The world is ugly, and your "dating for nerd" comment show just how ignorant of it you are.
LOL he forgot to post anonymously. Burn his karma!
I tried the tail pipe when I was a kid, it wasn't much fun.
You offer good advice if the goal is to be friendzoned.
When I was a fairly successful government bureaucrat I got turned down by a secretary in another division who was a 44-year-old single mom raising her kid in a homeless shelter with no help from his father. THAT'S how repulsive I am to women. True story.
By the time you're in your 40's the girls will be fighting over you!
As someone in his 40's, I can assure you that that is NOT the case.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Right, I'm sure that when elrous0 is watching a clip of 4 hung dudes fucking a teenage girl, he's thinking to himself, "Gosh, she seems nice. I wish I could meet, have sex, and fall in love with her! But who am I kidding? A real woman like her wouldn't want to meet me :( Oh, yowza, here's a clip of two women dressed as nuns being molested by guys dressed as satyrs! HOT!"
I can assure you that I'm looking for a real relationship, not some porn slut to "cater to my every sexual craving." But being poor and unattractive, I can't find either. Apparently, I'm to women what garlic is to vampires. Again, not a problem George Clooney has to deal with, I'm sure.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
I think this comment proves the animal level intentions of such bans as well as much of the legislation surrounding divorce and modern feminism: the urge in both sexes to cast out the men that women have deemed unworthy. Unfortunately, women's standards have moved upward such that ever larger proportions of the male population no longer meet such standards.
Neither is an actual option, merely a distant chance for an option.
Porn, on the other hand, is available.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
The internet most definitely did not discover #1, as the fact of which you are living proof (based on your username and theory that the internet has "weaponized" self-help after first discovering self-improvement 20 years ago. WTF.)
Paying some glorified prostitute to come over and let me fuck her and buy her jewelry until she can get her green card and leave me isn't exactly my idea of a relationship. And anyway, I'm poor so even that's not an option.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Preface: I am married and reasonably happily.
Women are incongruent with men in most cases, once you get past the hormone stage of needing a sexual partner. You can see this in the divorce rates and marriage rates.
The overoptimism in the article about divorce rates is counteracted by the much lower marriage rates in younger cohorts of the population. With that said, a lot of people are living together without doing the marriage thing, which is fine, and not captured in the statistics. But I have two takeways. First, people aren't pairing up as consistently as in the past, by a relatively large number. Second, the very reason people aren't marrying (or pairing up) is that they want to be free to move on when they think it is time - ie, not making a lifelong commitment.
Women have to blame something for this, for the idea of having a lifelong partner is an ingrained female desire. Just anecdotally, I have a lot of sisters and two daughters - every one of them wants a long term relationship with a man with the same passion a geek has for his geekery. And they're not finding as many takers now as in the 80s, just a bunch of guys wanting a quick fuck. Porn is one place women could lay the blame, though I don't think that is correct. They are switching cause and effect. The porn is a substitute to take care of the hormonal desires. The reason men don't want to pair up with them long term is that it isn't seen as a value proposition.
Examining why having a wife isn't considered a value proposition for most men is going to turn up some interesting data. I don't think there is a silver bullet here, but the tendency over the last fifty years for the law to favor women in _all_ disputes relating to marriage probably didn't help. Another issue is that having children isn't considered a value proposition, either, and that was a significant justification for marriage in the past.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
and ukrainian virgins eager to have sex with porn watchers, I am sure these men will have a good time. /s
Sounds like a "honey badger". They are women who buy into the red-pill philosophy that women have a sexual market value, and prostitution devalues their vaginas. Since a women's only value is her sexual market value (everything else, like child barring ability and cooking skill stems from that) they often oppose anything that makes them less desirable as sexual servants for red-pill men.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Jeez, if they had banned porn AND video games I would be a doctor right now. Probably. Never underestimate the human brain's capacity for slacking off :)
Lol, how is what I said any more "look at me" than what he said?
I was just offering a different perspective. Not everyone desperately wants real sex, like he claimed.
My buddy always says that he is celibate by choice. It's not actually his choice, but what can you do?
Being an "Escort Wagon", I can presume what other options you're talking about...
For many years, a very prominent, high-traffic billboard in downtown Houston had a picture of an attractive girl in evening-wear and in large print "Need an Escort?" In smaller print it had "or a Taurus? Come to this Ford dealership!". It was a landmark, in more ways than one.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
If you have a picture of that billboard, post it to Reddit. I'll upvote it so hard...
Come on over and blow me!
Hey, it was THEIR idea, not mine!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Porn is the only answer to the question "What do you do if no woman wants to meet YOU?"
With that attitude, you have already failed.
OK, I don't claim to understand any MRA terminology, but the red pill was the one that allowed you to escape the matrix, right? So those playing the normal dating game are the blue pills, and those who say "fuck that, it's not worth the drama" are the red pills, no?
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Well, you could still meet men, but that's something Russia is also not happy about, there just ain't no pleasing the Russkies.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Option 1 only goes so far. Sure, dieting and exercise can let you lose weight (assuming you don't have a plethora of possible issues that could impede such). But plastic surgery to fix just being ugly can be ruinously expensive. Some undesirable mental/personality characteristics might take heavy drugs to suppress (and make you dull, which is also undesirable). Sometimes there literally isn't anything you can do (see how easy it is to pick up chicks with your jaw missing).
Option 2 matters a lot less than you imagine if you're a guy. Sure, a woman who lowers her standards far enough can get laid at any time she desires. Women have higher standards than guys on average, though. A guy can drop his standards to "breathing human female" and still strike out. Why? Because all the 1's and 2's are holding out for guys that are at least 7's. Just as evolution dictated. The marginal cost for reproduction for a male is a couple grams of protein and a few minutes. For women, it's 9 friggin months that can potentially be fatal to them. So they are understandably way more picky.
We used to have further options (most of them morally deplorable), but they've all been made illegal by every sane society.
How about: 3) take female children as brides, as is tradition.
Fucking feminist piece of shit.
>In the United States, as late as the 1880s most States set the minimum age at 10-12, (in Delaware it was 7 in 1895).[8] Inspired by the "Maiden Tribute" female reformers in the US initiated their own campaign[9] which petitioned legislators to raise the legal minimum age to at least 16, with the ultimate goal to raise the age to 18. The campaign was successful, with almost all states raising the minimum age to 16-18 years by 1920.
>Also: see: Deuteronomy chapter 22 verses 28-29, hebrew allows men to rape girl children and keep them: thus man + girl is obviously fine. Feminists are commanded to be killed as anyone enticing others to follow another ruler/judge/god is to be killed as-per Deuteronomy. It is wonderful when this happens from time to time: celebrate)
Wealth and looks, admittedly important factors in the mating game, are not the only factors that women consider.
What will Edward Snowden do with all his free time, now?
Plus what will happen to all those horny Russian women who are desperate to meet me?
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Don't blame being fat and poor. I'm in pretty good shape and have a very healthy bank account. But I'm ugly, so I get nothing.
I stopped having those moments years ago. Every time a woman starts to act like that, I start looking for what she's trying to get out of me. Usually it's money, but sometimes they just want help moving their large objects.
Russia doesn't care if you're gay and fuck men, just that you don't go around in public with a rainbow banner proclaiming "Buttsex with men is awesome!"
Women want no competitors.
Child brides and prostitutes were banned in the US and England around the same time. When women gained political power.
Men have no reason to support their cunt-tries.
Try man man, works for me
VHEMT here too.
But I wouldn't be upset to (briefly) witness an extinction level event.
I thought it was invented by a little old lady in Leningrad.
Porn is the only answer to the question "What do you do if no woman wants to meet YOU?"
Porn is the only answer to the question "What do you do if no woman wants to fuck YOU?"
FTFY
Porn is the only answer to the question "What do you do if no woman wants to fuck YOU because YOU don't want to meet them?"
FT(FTFY)FY
Well they do. So do men. It's possible for people to have sexual market value without it being the sole attribute of value. Your false dichotomy is invalid.
Men with good paying stable jobs (ie good provisioning ability) as well as good genetics (good looks) are valued higher by women than than those without. Like women who don't sleep around, men who show 'maturity' (ie they don't sleep around either) are considered desirable. However, if the man is really high status, he'll often have multiple women, and the women don't mind because they know they got it good anyway.. Of course, if he falters even a bit (does something to cause loss of job/social status), then they turn on him like piranhas. We see this all the time with hollywood sorts.
You might try looking at the world as it is rather than filtering it through half baked extrapolations of 130 year old sociologists' wishful thinking.
And there arent any problems that come from a large population segment of frustrated people. Keep feeling entitled.
try
$ !man womyn
Don't waste your money. Damned things always show up dead in the box.
I totally agree. I did what Amijojo suggested for years, and I had a lot of girl-friends (friends who were girls).
Later, I started spending about 25 seconds on friendly before switching to flirty, than curious, then busy but curious. That worked. *I* am nothing special, but I eventually found an *approach* which really works.
The basic pattern is:
Friendly: make a joke or two.
Curious: Ask about her, some special jewelry she's wearing or whatever. Note *be* curious, don't *pretend* to be curious. Ask how her day is going and actually listen to the answer. From there find something you'd wouldn't mind listening to her talk about for 5 minutes - maybe you find out she's writing a dissertation or a book. That could be interesting.
Busy: Glance at your watch, tell an incoming caller you'll call them back, or even better get interrupted by a passerby (or two) saying hi.
Busy but curious: "I have to get going because some people are waiting on me, but I'd really like to talk to you some more. I'd like to hear more about (topic you discovered). This is a pretty busy week for me, but I think I can get away for an hour at lunch, maybe Wednesday or Thursday. Do you have an hour to grab some lunch later this week?"
The wording of the last bit is quoted because there are a lot of aspects to why those exact words are chosen, in that order. I stated twice that the proposed lunch is an hour, she's not committing to a long evening of a potentially bad date. Also, I only have an hour; I'm a bust man, with important things going on. Busy enough that I have to leave now, I'm breaking off the conversation. That is, there's no worry that I'll become an annoyance whom she'll have trouble getting rid of - if she's not interested, there are other people already waiting for me, probably because those other people like being around me, because I'm a likable guy.
Is this a bit manipulative? Maybe, though I do try to actually mean what I say, to be interested in what she says as opposed to being fake, pretending. Some guys use their money to attract women, other guys use their muscles, I used my brain. If that's bad, so be it.
No porn for you!
They'll inevitably talk.
Also they might sync up before that.
Hey! It's the 90s again!
The "computer nerds" who used to be called libertarians and the U.S. Internet was considered a safe haven for liberty and freedom!
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
How things have changed NSA.
And those people who would get their "homepages deleted in the U.K. for being "homosexuals" deleted by virgin.com and NTL AOL, all rushed for U.S. hosting or hosting in Amsterdam.
It would seem history is repeating itself except for one thing the U.S. Internet lost its freedom, and so did the country.
And how has watching porn helped with raising your self-esteem? How has watching - using straight porn as and example - guys with big dicks fucking big titty women in the ass helped you get any closer to finding a woman who isn't repulsed by you? Seems I read somewhere that women find as much as 80% of men to be unattractive. Yet, we see attractive women with average looking schlubs everywhere. If this guy can get women, then there's probably hope for you.
As a guy, dating got easier as I got older. I barely dated in my 20s, dated a ton in my 30s and married a woman in her mid 20s slightly before I hit 40. It honestly comes down to having good confidence and social skills, dressing nicely (way more important than actually having lots of money or actually being super fit) and having nothing glaringly wrong with you.
Don't be afraid of rejection and just treat it like a numbers game. Of every profile you look at, you'll want to message a certain number of them. A fraction of them will respond and go on dates with you. A fraction of those will have good chemistry. And somewhere in there you'll find a great long term relationship.
20s
As a guy- your social skills and earning ability are relatively modest, women generally not interested unless they're generally not that desirable. I generally found that no one would give me the time of day during my 20s, even when I was making really good money. A lot of guys (especially engineers) in this age group are timid, afraid of rejection and generally unable to effectively capitalize on opportunities that present themselves.
As a girl- your looks are at their peak and every guy in every age group wants to date you. Women generally don't suffer from the lack of social skills that plague young guys.
30s
As a guy- your social skills are finally decent, your earning ability should be solid by now, you can generally date women in any age group with little difficulty unless you're a complete wreck. Most women will see you as a catch. In my mid-early 30s, dating got surprisingly easy. I think it was a combination of becoming more desirable and being better equipped to notice and take advantage of opportunities as they arose.
As a girl- your looks are starting to fade, your biological clock is ticking loudly, you're a second choice for any guy who can land a woman in her 20s. Women in this age group are generally desperate to land a guy who isn't a complete train wreck and in a great rush to seal the deal, settle down and make babies. A lot of drama and misery arises from this mad scramble.
I agree. It is simply not true (as someone turning 40)
russians do that all the time, don't they
How's the average Josef ever gonna meet someone in real life, when as far as I can tell, every Russian girl spends all day in front of a camera filming for Pornhub and Youporn?
Porn kills ones ability to love.
Because thousands of men and women use cam sites from inside Russia to make a living.
be prepared to be realistic and tolerant of a few flaws.
Been there, done that
One was a psycho bitch
One was extremely depressed
Never again
I'm happier now. Porn satisfies my urges when they become a distraction.
I value my free time, my disposable income and my freedom to choose.
I guess I should thank them for teaching me to appreciate that.
Fapping to someone else having sex is the ultimate sadness. Russia is right. Go meet a real human.
Somehow, Russia is a more religious and moral country than the West these days
That sounds a lot harder than playing Quake in your parents basement.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
I don't think there are any left for us fat poor guys.
Reading between the lines, it sounds like you're not entirely happy with yourself here. It's very difficult to get someone to like you if you don't like yourself. Possibly the first step is to temporarily put dating on the back burner and concentrate on improving things for you and only you, not for potentially someone else.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
so, they block the porn sites but still don't do a thing about all the virus, ramsomware coming out of their country, all of the illegal websites, bot net control servers, illegal credit card processing sites.. but no porn.
A fair amount of it is actually more generic. It's not so much what attracts women but what makes you the kind of person that other people want to spend time with.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
...YouPorn watches...um...no. Not anymore.
Sorry. Never mind. Damn.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
Sounds like someone majored in 'gender studies' rather than STEM. Any regrets?
The Russians are increasingly positioning for another cold war. Better do that porn ban soon in the US, otherwise they'll increase their population faster! While we're at it, a video game ban would also increase the effectiveness.
Mr. President, we must not allow a Minecraft gap!
They have stopped reproducing, and the government is desperately seeking ways of improving the birth rate.
Maybe you should lift weights? Maybe you should dress better? Maybe you should improve your social skills/charisma?
All of the above will improve your ability to attract women. Two of those three will probably involve some real suffering (physical or mental) on your part, but the results are worth it. I know because I worked through the same process myself about 6-7 years ago. If you recognize that you are unsatisfactory in your current state......change your state.
That was scotch.
I'm nearing 40 and recently returned to study, and I get FAR more attention from women (in their early 20's) now compared to when I attended school the first time. You lot must give off bad vibes or something.
Geez, I used a shaming slur which is strictly verboten by feminist ideology. How did you get a gender studies grad vibe from that post? It's nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with shedding his self-delusion. He's justifying his socially isolating perversion for pornography by claiming that its the only option available in lieu of his failure to meet women who will allow him to fuck them.
The 'real woman' and anti-porn bits are common feminist diatribes.
In the USA, if you're a guy & value your freedom, you have a choice of either pr0n, or living like a monk. "Honeytrapping", a favorite pastime of USA LEAs, has become a freedom- and life-threatening epidemic.
You're confusing it with The Snowden Sleeper Cell plan.
lucm, indeed.
I'm married, happy, and watch porn with my SO.
Wow, I haven't been on StackOverflow for awhile, looks like it has changed a lot.
lucm, indeed.
If you're ugly, broke, and can write quicksort in at least two languages, you can get laid all the time.
Does your quicksort/conversation formula works for people who are into midget pegging, shemale femdom and public Asian groping? If not I'll stick with pornhub for now.
lucm, indeed.
> Reading between the lines, it sounds like you're not entirely happy with yourself here. It's very difficult to get someone to like you if you don't like yourself.
Absolutely. Actually he's a pretty cool guy, he's funny and has some good common sense. If he was reminded of *that* just before he struck up a conversation with a lady, his tone and manner might convey that, reading between the lines she might get the impression that he's a an interesting, fun guy to talk to. If he's thinking "I'm fat, ugly, and women don't like me", that'll also come through. Whether he says it or not, she'll hear it loud and clear - and probably believe it.
1. Elrous0 used "real woman" first. I just repeated his phrasing.
2. There are plenty of people who are anti-porn who are neither feminists nor religious followers.
I've started perusing Doctor Nerd Love and he seems to have pretty logical advice. Are you familiar with the site? Would you say your experiences and advice match his?
'He who has to break a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom.' -- Gandalf to Saruman
... Somewhere, in a log hut deep in the Taiga... a lonely blue balled man decides to go on a date with a brown bear... simply because there's no one else around in the real life.
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I RTFM about what really attracts most women, not just in the first 10 seconds but in conversation.
What conversation? The most "conversation" I get from most women* is them saying like "Fuck off". Takes less than 10 seconds. I've always been well off and not even ugly; I just don't look like Brad Pitt, and you cannot very well walk around with a flag on your hat saying how much you earn. I never had a conversation with a girl my own age until I was 25, not counting the "fuck offs".
* Only exceptions are ones I've met via dating clubs. When you meet them by arrangement in meatspace they are in a somewhat "captive" situation so they converse at least for a while.
Okay, so whatever you used to do in the first ten seconds approach didn't work. Four suggestions for the first ten seconds:
Make a joke. Not a wholly inappropriate joke.
In a store, ask "is that a good ice cream?", or whatever she's buying. (Though buying ice cream at or other frozen desserts at night tends to correlate with being receptive to converstation).
If she's not alone, initially include the less attractive lady or the male member of group in the first 10 seconds. When saying hi to a pair of ladies, it would be rude to ignore one. For a group, you want the male's tacit approval to strike up a converstation with the ladies of the group.
I wasn't familiar with doctornerdlove, but I was curious what you were talking about so I just read two of his posts. I was generally nodding in agreement with those two.
The first one I read was his post about being nervous that you'll be awkward, a self-fullfilling prophecy:
http://www.doctornerdlove.com/...
I don't disgaree with what he says; I will add a specific instruction, a process, for how to avoid it. Whenever I was in line, at the grocery store or whatever, I would make conversation with whomever was behind me, in front of me, and the cashier. 90% of the time it wasn't a lady I was attracted to. Maybe it's a grandma 30 years older than me, maybe a couple of frat guys, firefighters getting groceries for the fire station, whatever. There was much less nervousness complimenting granny's necklace or joking around with frat guys than the same approach with an attractive lady. After 30 days of talking to six people per day, I had struck up conversations with 180 strangers. This was fun in itself; waiting in line is less boring when grandma is telling you about the time she met Elvis. Eventually I was in line behind a lady who looked mildly attractive, and I did exactly the same thing I had done 180 times before. What's there to be nervous about - I do this all day, every day.
The only difference when she's attractive is the closing line, and I know I won't be awkward with that because I know ahead of time exactly what I'll say "I have to get going, but I'd really like to continue this conversation. This week is pretty busy for me, but I think I can take an hour to go to lunch Wednesday or Thursday. Are you free for a quick lunch later this week?"
* After going to lunch with over 100 women, I chose the best one and married her, so I don't flirt much anymore. Now I occassionally apply the principles in other ways.
Thank god for xHamster!
If you decide to try number one (which you should) you may find this article quite insightful.
The problem arises (no pun) if watching a lot of porn makes a man prefer a real, super hot, young, extremely sexual woman.
War is piece. freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.
I think it's unlikely that no woman in the entire world would want you....The real problem is that finding someone who wants you is hard.
Exactly, it's a communication problem. Like the tragedy of the commons, it is the arse-hats who foul up the system, like scam dating websites, double-talking jocks, gold-digging women etc.
We would all love to date an insanely hot engineer who can hold a great conversation
Stop when you said "engineer", by which I assume you meant an intelligent high-ish earner. Drop that requirement and the field is much wider. I got on best with working-class girls who were somewhat dimmer than most - those self-aware of this compensate by trying harder to be attractive and sexy, and tend to be impressed by a guy much better off and from outside their own social plane. More intelligent girls tend to have tedious issues like advocating vegetarianism or Esparanto, while "duller" girls will be happy to go along with whatever their guy wants.
I never expected or wanted an intellectual sparring partner.
Not the only. For example, you can join ISIS on hopes of getting some sex slaves of your own. There are some theories that polygamy (so fewer available females), combined with harsh attitudes towards porn and homosexuality, is what drives a lot of extremist recruiting among young males in Islamic countries.
There are plenty of real women who want to have sex with you. The problem is that you consider them subpar and unacceptable as a mate, because they're not pretty enough. And then, ironically, whine that the women who you want to have sex with you, consider you subpar and unacceptable as a mate.
... and you cannot very well walk around with a flag on your hat saying how much you earn.
So buy nicer shoes. Same thing.
considering at least half the porn sites i see are .ru.
Self-help manuals won't help you overcome crippling injuries, physical deformities or mental health problems.
Lower your standards/expectations.
That is exactly what porn is.
I find it remarkable the nearly nonexistant amount of discussion of censorship and free speech in this thread. On the one hand, it seems porn in the free speech continuum has thrived in ways that couldn't possibly be overstated in the past few decades. But on the other hand, I guess with something neighboring "the oldest profession", one can accept that human social change has a perhaps unnavoidable glacial drag coefficient.
Thank God for internet pr0n... (including bikini shots streamed in from uuencoded ascii usenet posts at 28.8kbps over copper wires 20 some years ago)
90% of the male homosapiens of the world are blind, 70% of statistics are just made up, and human rights and labor standards are relevent as well as free speech.
Like women who don't sleep around, men who show 'maturity' (ie they don't sleep around either) are considered desirable.
I am not convinced of this in the sense which you mean it.
A philandering son is advantageous and more likely to be produced by a philandering father. The woman's general strategy then is to *marry* the non-philanderer who will support her and her children while philandering herself.
She *knows* the maternity of her children but the father cannot be so sure. This shows up with maternal grandparents being more generous than paternal grandparents.
What shorts this all out is medical tests which can reveal to the father whether the children are actually his. Women should be fighting against allowing paternity tests if they want to hold these advantages. In some cases the law already does this.
Now you know why they are so eager to marry Americans.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?