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Right To Be Forgotten? Web Privacy Debate in Italy After Women's Suicide (ndtv.com)
The suicide of a woman who battled for months to have a video of her having sex removed from the internet is fuelling debate in Italy on the "right to be forgotten" online. The 31-year-old, identified as Tiziana, was found hanged at her aunt's home in Mugnano, close to Naples in the country's south on Tuesday, reports Agence France-Presse. From the report: Her death came a year after she sent a video of herself having sex to some friends, including her ex-boyfriend, to make him jealous. The video and her name soon found their way to the web and went viral, fuelling mockery of the woman online. The footage has been viewed by almost a million internet users. In a bid to escape the humiliation, Tiziana quit her job, moved to Tuscany and tried to change her name, but her nightmare went on. The words "You're filming? Bravo," spoken by the woman to her lover in the video, have become a derisive joke online, and the phrase has been printed on T-shirts, smartphone cases and other items. After a long court battle, Tiziana recently won a "right to be forgotten" ruling ordering the video to be removed from various sites and search engines, including Facebook.
but actions shouldn't be remembered
"after she sent a video of herself having sex to some friends, including her ex-boyfriend, to make him jealous."
Stupidity kills.
You're asking for something that is impossible, to be a "Right"
The "online" part is irrelevant (and just as impossible). I can no more "forget" on demand short of you lobotomizing me, and you don't have that right.
So, lets stop tossing words like "rights" around, when they cannot apply.
BTW, she handled it very poorly. She could have milked it (trademarked the phrase) and become a famous porn star, with a catch phrase and all. Embrace that which makes you famous (like the Kardashians) and you'll be both Rich and Famous.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
How about don't use your real name online? Just because everyone in the world seems to have abandoned that concept in the last 15 years doesn't make it any less important, or relevant.
This is not a problem for the internet, its a problem of novice internet users emailing sex tapes around. I would have some sympathy if she was hacked, but she clearly brought this on herself. We all make mistakes, but we don't all make fools of our self online using our real information. That's a fairly specific choice she made. It may not have been thought through, but let that be a lesson to everyone who decides emailing a sex tape around is a good idea.
As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
The four comments on this story all blame the woman for her own stupidity?
Are you guys for real? Yes I assume you are guys.
Just because someone makes a stupid mistake we don't have the right to keep on blasting her for it! And she asked please would you stop and leave me alone. And the idiots still kept on pestering her. Making t-shirts? I cannot belive it! Sure - it's not illegal to do that but the people doing it place themselves square into the neanderthal part of the intelligence and compassion scales! I bet you guys know how to google - so don't just take my word for it - but an environment in which you are continously beeing harrassed can cause all kinds of damage in a persons soul. Some people in Italy and on the net really should think hard and long about their own behaviour! Are you all 13 years old? I don't think so!
And then to come here and you all continue the blame fest on her for beeing harassed and mobbed enough to take her own life? HELLO! She took her own life. That is no joke!
I had to thaw up my old account for this because I'm shocked and ashamed of what Slashdot has became.
Blame Someone Else for your own stupidity.
Agreed.
She must be an American at heart.
There are stupid people all around the world, my friend. Pointing the finger at a country and calling its people stupid is like pointing at the Sun and calling it helium.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
America takes a lot of derision from other countries because we tend to focus on individual freedom/responsibility.
... that was ultimately her decision alone. If someone "forces" you to commit suicide, it's not really a suicide.
At least compared to other places.
The suicide part
The internet is a very cruel place. We see the worst aspects of the human race on a daily basis. I don't know how we fix that.
-Bob-
Every humans life starts with a specific amount of value.
That humans actions raise or lower that value over time.
She was a person who not only wanted to hurt other people, but did so in a stupid way. Then when her actions unsurprisingly backfired she lacked any ability to deal with it in an adult manner and just made shit worse. She was a bad person, that dug a hole and then attempted to fix it by digging deeper and was of the opinion that the only solution was death.
She looked decent, that though, sadly was the limit of that lives worth.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
When Brendan Eich was "outed" as an opponent of "gay marriage", the online bullies forced his resignation from Mozilla's top job.
When blamed for the resulting degradation of Mozilla software's quality, the bullies insist, it was their First Amendment right to criticize and boycott Mr. Eich — and that he should have known, that "words have consequences" and censored himself.
Resigning is no different from suicide in this case — a person is driven to an unpleasant and unwanted action by the words of those, who hate/despise him...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Well, it's truly a shame that the world has become a place where you cannot escape your mistakes, large or small, if someone, anyone, is the least bit interested in seeing to it that you can't. No matter how hard you try, no matter how sincere you are, no matter what lengths you go to to adjust your behavior or act in ways to mitigate or reverse any damage you might have done, or have been perceived to have done.
It's part and parcel of the retribution over rehabilitation mindset, I think. Despicable, really.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Just to elaborate a bit, all speech is constitutionally protected in the US
... except for libel, slander, perjury, credible threats, inciting violence, copyright violations, security clearance violations, illegal recordings, disclosing sealed court documents, public obscenity, etc.
Actually SCOTUS is designed just fine (screaming Fire ... Building.. Etc). It's the check against their power that is broken... Congress and Executive.
SCOTUS was specifically designed to avoid the whims of the political parties and sway of public opinion. That's why their word is supreme and the positions are lifetime.
SCOTUS only says what is correct per their expertise. Rarely are they wrong. If there are problems with their rulings, it is up to Congress to fix or address. Unlike the Executive, people have direct voting rights to Congressional members.
But I guess it is just more money and fun to talk about ONE position for 2 years... sadly nothing better is on TV.
So this women deliberately had sex with multiple men at the same time. Ok, I understand that. I've had my share of threesomes & orgys/âoegangbangs" and the ladies always loved it.
She had herself filmed while doing so. For free. Ok, I get that too. Some people dig this, and if she and her lovers looked good doing sex she'd being doing other people a favour with nice free amateur pron. Good thing.
Here it gets weird: She had herself filmed to make someone - aparently her ex-lover - jealous. Thats imature, silly and dumb, but whatever.
She sent her ex-lover and some other peole the video. Ok. Fits her plan and intent.
Then she gets hysterical as the video ends up on the internet. Calls for legal measures to have the video removed, gets depressed and finally kills herself. ... I mean WTF??!?
Isn't it blatantly obvious to *anybody* that step 2 already basically guarantees that your sextape will end up on the internet with anywhere between a few hundred up to a few million seeing it? What is wrong with people? ... This whole szenario is so patently absurd I almost have difficulty believing it.
I seriously don't get it.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Why is this a surprise? Why do some people think others should be protected against their own, severe stupidity?
Seriously, it was completely clear and obvious that this video would end up on the Internet. After all, she published it (by sending it to her ex) without conditions or restrictions on its use. That somebody utterly stupid (sorry for speaking ill of the dead, but it is a fact here) may take their own life when they realize how massively they have screwed up is also not new.
There is _zero_ need to do anything here. Stupid people will always be around and it is not possible to make the world safe for them. A lot of damage can be done by trying though, so the effort itself is utterly evil.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.