US Intel Officially Blames the Russian Government For Hacking DNC (theverge.com)
It's official, the Director of National Intelligence and Department of Homeland Security has blamed Russia for stealing and publishing archived emails from the Democratic National Committee in July. Wikileaks released over 19,000 emails and more than 8,000 attachments from the DNC in what was "part one of [their] new Hillary Leaks series." The Verge reports: "The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts," the statement reads. "We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities." The release also mentions recent reports of attempted intrusions into voting systems in 20 different states, but says there is not yet enough evidence to attribute those attacks to the Russian government. Despite the acknowledged threat, the DNI says digital attacks are unlikely to directly alter election results. "It would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion," the statement reads. "This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place." "Nevertheless," it continues, "DHS continues to urge state and local election officials to be vigilant."
I remember seeing this 80s, 90s. Ooooo it was the Russians. Reports say Russians deny speculation. More of the same media baloney.
When I'm president, the Russians won't hack us any more. They won't have to.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Whatever happened to "Blame Canada"?
I feel slighted!
Great minds think alike; fools seldom differ.
It's always the Russians or are they just an easy target to blame?
If the Russians had cracked the RNC instead of the DNC, you'd never hear the end of it. Communist infiltration and all that. FOX News would be yammering about it 24 hours a day.
Instead, most of the posters on Slashdot are going to be falling all over each other denying the Russians had anything to do with it.
This is part of why things like Stuxnet are potentially bad. Even if you use a weapon for a cause that is just or good, each new introduction ups the ante. It is pretty clear that the US and its allies use of hacking and similar tools (I refuse to say "cyberweapons" because we're not yet in a dystopian scifi novel) has emboldened other actors to use them also. If the US instead put in nearly as much resources into making things secure as it does into breaking into things, the situation would look very different, and everyone would benefit.
What if it's just people inside the DNC who are sick of the corruption? What if there are people inside the DNC who wanted Bernie to win and were angry when the DNC conspired to steal the primary election from him?
What if the Russians aren't hacking the FBI, the NSA the DNC etc and it's all just people who are disgusted with the corruption? If the Russians were stealing secrets from these groups, you'd expect them to keep quiet rather than causing a ruckus that would result in increased scrutiny and heightened security.
Knowing Hillary's dirty secrets and holding them would be terrific for blackmail. Leaking them to the public weakens her as a candidate and removes the material from future usefulness. My guess is that it's good samaritans rather than foreign spies.
or just smile & wave thank you... truth+mercy=justice.. spirit of creation/language of the heart foolproof.. hand in hand we stand..
If it weren't for the Russians, the DNC and the Clinton camp would have gotten away with voter fraud in the primary! Oh, no one cares. Nevermind.
For those wanting some context, here is a collection of articles from a variety of sources. For those saying "show me the evidence", they wouldn't believe any evidence -- or are themselves Russian trolls.
What Does Putin Want?
5 Oct 2016
The United States should pursue confrontation where necessary and mutual interests without illusions where possible.
However therapeutic and tempting, especially during election season and after Russiaâ(TM)s direct complicity in the Syria horror, the understandable impulse to confront and isolate President Vladamir Putinâ(TM)s Russia is not wise policy. Notwithstanding the many areas of altercation as well as the doomed attempt by President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to âoeresetâ U.S.-Russia relations after the George W. Bush administration, the next president should pursue a dual strategy designed both to challenge Putin where U.S. national interests demand it but find areas of collaboration where interests coincide. The United States should pursue confrontation where necessary and mutual interests without illusions where possible.
http://nationalinterest.org/fe...
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Russia Suspends Nuclear Agreement, Ends Uranium Research Pact With United States
5 Oct 2016
âoeThe regular renewal of sanctions against Russia ... demands the adoption of countermeasures against the U.S. side.â
Russia further curtailed its cooperation with the United States in nuclear energy on Wednesday, suspending a research agreement and terminating one on uranium conversion, two days after the Kremlin shelved a plutonium pact with Washington.
The Russian government said that as counter-measures to the U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia over Ukraine, it was putting aside a nuclear and energy-related research pact with the United States.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
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Russian state newspapers predict âdirect military conflictâ(TM) with US as it compares Syria stalemate to Cuban missile crisis
5 Oct 2016
'Third World War' fears have been voiced by the newspapers over the growing tensions with the USA
A RUSSIAN newspaper fears a Third World War with the US over Syria.
Tabloid Moskovsky Komsomolets predicts a âoedirect military confrontationâ on par with the Cuban Missile Crisis.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/...
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Russiaâ(TM)s Military Sophistication in the Arctic Sends Echoes of the Cold War
4 Oct 2016
Norwegian, NATO and U.S. officials express concerns over Moscowâ(TM)s increased sophistication in region
When the U.S. wants to learn what Russia is doing in the Arctic, it often turns to the Norwegian military, which has been conducting operations for decades from this Arctic town amid the fiords.
These days, it isnâ(TM)t the volume of Russian military activity in the region that concerns Norway and its North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies. Adm. Haakon Bruun-Hanssen, Norwayâ(TM)s chief of defense, says Russian military activity in the Barents Sea has grown in recent years but still pales in comparison to Cold War levels.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ru...
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Amid Deteriorating U.S.-Russia Relations, Questions Grow About Cyberwar
4 Oct 2016
Just when you thought U.S.-Russia relations couldn't get worse, diplomatic deals on both Syria and nuclear security fell apart this week.
Moscow went first, announcing that it was pulling out of a landmark agreement on plutonium. Russia's President V
Because your vote does not matter. Thanks electoral colleges...
...said pretty much every country in South America and the middle east that have had the U.S. government interfering in their elections for decades.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Now I dont like Putin or the rest of his cleptocracy either, but always pointing to Russia as the bad guys when it is convenient, instead of when it has been proven (or at least shown beyond reasonable doubt) will and already does lead to a desensitivization effect.
The more often it is claimed "Russia did X" without reasonable evidence, the less believeable it will become, until the day when they really do something monstrous and no one will belive it. See the myth about Germanys extermination camps in WWI vs. their actual extermination camps in WWII which were at first disbelieved by many when the first reports appeared.
Already here in Europe we see the first effects of this: Most people are more inclined to believe whatever RT (aka. the Ministry of RussianTruths) tells them instead of facts. Particularly when it comes to anything refugee or Ukraine related.
Russia, if they did it, should have also sold the e-mails for the usual data-mining for targeted ads, or passed it back to the NSA to add these to the privacy violations of all our other citizens.
Then it'd be "dual use", and it'd be fine according to our government and corporations.
In front of a PC coding in C?
Wow it's almost as if you had all these references waiting for an article like this. Who does that? ... he asked knowingly
How dare the Russians expose the fact that the DNC rigged its elections, funneled all the money to Hillary, is using papers like the Washington Post as sockpuppets, or holding clandestine fundraisers their own lawyers forbade! This is the most transparent administration ever!
It's all Russia's fault that people believe the DNC is corrupt! You can't trust those damn Rooskies. I watch out for Rooskies every day, I can see Russia from my back yard.
Wha?
like the dumb sheep they are. The government can just point and hiss at any country or group now, and the people will believe it, no matter what.
tl;dr: Putin is an asshole.
Seriously, you need a LOT of words for saying something so simple.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Tho your point is valid, was putting it in reply to this comment really the right spot for it?
Holy fucking autism, batman!
Just like no one cares we are loosing billions of billions of dollars to tax evasion. We have the proof, Panama papers anyone?.. Only thing that matters in the US anymore is corruption.
This is pretty strong evidence that the Obama regime is blaming Russia for everything regardless of whether or not there are any facts to support their claim.
This assessment is a trememdous disaster. I'm pretty sure it was somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.
Ninjas don't carry tic tacs
I don't care if they blame bigfoot. The information released was still damning of the corruption inside the DNC. Fuck the DNC. They don't deserve any votes for burning Bernie.
> For those wanting some context, here is a collection of articles from a variety of sources. For those saying "show me the evidence", they wouldn't believe any evidence -- or are themselves Russian trolls.
That's exactly what a Correct The Record shill would say.
TIL: slashdot has a 'read the rest of this comment" feature.
what is even more surprising is how long a comment needs to be to hit that.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to post these links.
If it is even true it is interesting to see that the Russians are doing more for transparency then the pop media, the DNC and the alphabet mafia.
Wait, the US Government is accusing another government of attempting to influence an election by exposing wrongdoing?
That's bizarre.
I suppose if the press was doing its job instead of being Democratic spear-carriers we wouldn't need some other country to do the press' work for them.
Excuse to redo the election if Trump wins.
The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.
There's not a whole lot of evidence there. It would be interesting to know what sort of things Russia has done in Europe and Asia.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Where are they?
Instead, most of the posters on Slashdot are going to be falling all over each other denying the Russians had anything to do with it.
See, what really happened was that the Catholic church ordered Trump to have his buddy Putin order his guys into hacking into the DNC to discredit Clinton. But that's not the end game.
See, ignorant people don't realize that Trump's wife is from Slovenia and that it's mostly Catholic. And there's a lot of resentment towards the Russians for their rule during the Cold War and for having been forced to live in a country that was then called Yugoslavia - (ICK!)
What's a girl to do?
Well, she marries Trump to get her green card - and to plan her revenge on the Russians. See, why do you think that Trump has that bromance with Putin? To get close to him! D'uh.
But although Melania thinks she's playing everyone, it's really the Catholic Church is playing everyone and she's just a pawn in their game.
But that's not all, see within the Catholic Church there is a Protestant secret faction who's game is for control. But what they don't know is that they are being manipulated by Presbyterians in NY that is controlled - Yep! You got it! Donald John Trump JUNIOR!
But little does he know that he's being controlled by Ivanka. See, Ivanka want's control of everything and what she doesn't know is that Bill Clinton wants to get into her pants. And the only way to do that is for his wife to lose and he "advises" the Trump Presidency.
So, to make this end a little quicker, it's all Bill Clinton's fault.
Yes, there couldn't be any other reason for anyone to collect such articles...
Foiled again!
I have a theory that Russia is trying to get Trump elected because it's a surefire way to destroy the USA.
This is pretty strong evidence that the Obama regime is blaming Russia for everything regardless of whether or not there are any facts to support their claim.
Yet all I see here is insinuation. Strange that.
That's rich. With all the whining and hand-wringing about not trusting electronic voting machines since the Bush administration, we already know many cannot be audited and leave no paper trail of ballots cast by voters.
Yeah, they can't because we simply won't know if they did.
I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
Trump will build a firewall and get the Russians to pay for it.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
They Stole part of two countries.
Bombed a UN Aid Convoy.
Shot down an Airliner.
Among other things.
Putin's response: What? You Gonna do something about it?
So, Trump is controlled by Russia, Hillary is controlled by China... By control I mean funded by. How come the US populace hasn't decided to elect anyone else?
...investigations will continue to the exact degree Trump either makes it close or leads the race...
-Styopa
Loyal Democrats are urged to not read them and deny their authenticity to Republicans.
"I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
Kinda like the lack of evidence actually showing Russia had anything to do with the hack. Strange that.
Panama papers were 99% eurotaxevaders. American law requires an additional 'cutoff' (corporate shell), very few Americans were using that evasion method.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Just wondering.
Well, the Republicans had 17 people to choose from. Would you rather have Carly Fiorina? Another Bush? Warmongerer Lindsey Graham? The Brain surgeon whom thinks the Pyramids store food (Maybe he plays Civilization 2?)....
I wonder how many people wish Ron Paul had run in 2016?
Anyone else see the irony though in Russia uncovering more political corruption within the USA than the US's own FBI?
But your vote does matter. You vote for the electors. The electoral college was set up to protect the power of the states. If you get a large percentage of the vote in certain states but narrowly lose in many others it is possible to lose the election even with a clear majority of votes nationally. States count more than total votes.
Just makes the Democrats look like whiners on top of being idiots. They should never have put what leaked in writing let alone email. Now they are complaining Russia took advantage of their incompetence.
Having a corrupt administration is bad
Having an incompetent corrupt administration is worse
Having an incompetent corrupt administration that that blames everyone else is Venezuela
"We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities."
This phrasing seems weasely. It's like there's missing part of the sentence - "We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities if, in fact, the Russian government was responsible.
Not a single iota of hard evidence has been presented by the government. There's just been lots and lots of speculation by the media and innuendo by US government officials.
Whether the Russians had anything to do with it is irrelevant until people start acknowledging the appalling corruption that the hacks revealed. That should be first and foremost in the discussion. Whether it was the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, or Klingons doesn't really matter. That piece of information takes second priority to that fact that our elections are rigged.
The corruption in the DNC is a problem, and I hope that the registered Democrats will look at it seriously and bring reforms to their own party.
However, it doesn't make the origin of the hack irrelevant. We are now in the general elections and it should be a worrying fact to the American people, both Republicans and Democrats, that a foreign power is trying to influence our elections.
Good God, why is this so hard to understand?
We get it, and God has nothing to do with it.
If there are any voting machines running on PCs, it is essential that they disconnect public-facing USB ports from the motherboard. Because if your goal is to shut down or slow down a polling place, then you don't need a sophisticated hacking device, just a power spike that disables one of your machines.
If we had time, we could design a USB port with an alarm in it so that we could catch tamperers in the act.
They've dumped more money and evidence into shifting attention to the Russians over this than the crimes and deceit unearthed by the hacks. And there's still no definitive proof the hack was state-sponsored. In the end they are just butt-hurt and want to distract you from the real problem.
While I'm not comfortable with them hacking US organizations, I'm not comfortable with the fact we've been hacking Russian systems for ages and influencing politics in their puppet states either. In the end, I'm more inclined to thank the Russians and spend all the money and effort to remove Clinton than to engage in butt-hurt sabre rattling over this.
If there weren't disgusting things committed in the first place, there would be nothing for them to attempt to influence an election with. I'm far more concerned about Clinton's BS than the fact the Russians exposed it.
Both the editors and the most-upvoted commenters seem to be pedaling for Trump and it's gotten to the point where, what I assumed to be a bastion for rationality and critical thinking, has become ad hominem spin.
Yes, the DNC shit was corrupt, but we have an opaque wall into Trump's internal emails considering no nation state has tried so blatantly to get Clinton elected president.
Take off your glasses and see that Trump offers nothing to the country but an enormous and sensitive ego with no sense of compassion nor critical thought.
They're all from the Washington Post too. Didn't we read about the WaPo in the email leaks? Why yes, yes we did -
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emai...
I do post that one link a lot, but mostly because it's gotten no real attention, everyone is looking at Russian boogeymen and getting distracted from the up-front corruption.
Isn't that the point of foreign governments?
Trying to influence things to their advantage?
You must have been born yesterday if any of this is a surprise to you. Or an extreme hypocrite since the US is by far the worst offender here.
Not being able to prove "why" she did it is not the same as proving "that" she did it. "Why" requires a bit of character investigation which was completely ignored. Literally a trail of such "luck" follows both Clinton criminals^Wpoliticians (yes, both of them), mainly because the media has covered for them since Clinton was Governor.
Hillary claimed she had no classified emails on her server. FBI director claimed she "did in fact" have classified emails on her server. Clinton claimed "none marked classified" and again the FBI director stated "there were emails _marked_ classified. Read Trey Gowdy's questions if you have doubts, but I'm guessing that you find facts inconvenient. You can find his portion of the hearing on Youtube if you are too lazy to read.
Clinton and her staff can't even tell the truth about her being ill, which perfectly demonstrates the character of the person. Being responsible and not coughing pneumonia carrying bacteria over at least the dozens of people that heard her speaking was not as important as her lust for power. And go ahead and ask your doctor about that so called "non contagious" variety which amazingly does not exist. I guess this was the great diagnosis from the amazing medical institute called "Chelsea's apartment". Whew, I feel so much better now!
Sadly I don't see Johnson as Libertarian at all. He Governed his State that way from what I hear, but during his Presidential campaign he looks very much like a Democrat. That "could" just be that he's a bad spokesperson for himself, but considering the way this election cycle has gone I'm skeptical of everything and everyone in politics.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Water is wet.
Since they appear even more incompetent if it's anyone else. Sorry guys, it's script kiddies all the way down...
How do we know Seth Rich didn't leak the information.
Oh, he's dead by the way. Murdered and no money stolen.
I'm sure the voting machines will be fine.
They have the latest version of Windows XP on them.
Irrelevant? How is it irrelevant?
There was a time when the Repubs were the law and order party. Nothing could be discussed regarding evidence if the evidence was tainted by illegality.
I fear that your partisanship has altered your moral code. Trump literally encouraged Russian hackers to hack more, hack longer, and hack more effectively, so long as it was aimed at the Dems of course.
Hackers must not be encouraged. Hackers must not be enabled. Hacking builds their skill sets, emboldens and enables them. Hacking is a crime. When will you acknowledge that hacking is a crime? Would you be so blasé if the Repubs were hacked? Do you want your credit cards hacked? Are you OK with it if your medical records are hacked, you know, because someone did something wrong at the hospital (or not)?
It's a sad day when partisanship prevents you from seeing the societal harm. This isn't about Repubs vs. Dems, or the election, or any of that. It's about the ability of citizens to live their lives, unmolested by criminals.
Irrelevant? I think not.
What's the point of trying to shame Russia by publicly accusing them? Does Obama really believe that Putin gives two shits about US whining over Russian hacking? What's needed here is some old school Cold War style tit-for-tat. If I were the US President, I would respond to the hacking by shooting down a few Russian jets in Syria. The US needs to make it clear to the Russians that meddling in our elections will have the most serious possible consequences.
Richard Nixon had the decency to not blame the Russians for Watergate. We are going down a dark path.
Funny that the junta in Washington doesn't mention their own subverting of foreign democracies, or the crass criminality and corruption at the heart of their own regime. It will be interesting to see if they can produce credible evidence this time. Recent statements from the US state department resemble those from Comical Ali, at the heart of the US invasion of Iraq. Does anyone believe a word they say any more. The US political system needs democratic reform desperately. Just look at the 'candidates' for imperial commander. You get to choose between a tangerine halfwit oaf, and a corrupt sociopath, perhaps even a pschopath.
Don't thank him, it's literally his job, check his post history.
Wow it's almost as if you had all these references waiting for an article like this. Who does that? ... he asked knowingly
So your rebuttal to a specific list of clearly identified wide ranging news articles clearly showing Russia is attacking the US is ... to gently hint they might be gathered by someone with an agenda? That's it? And up above your Russian buddies are telling us that we should treat the emails as neutral evidence because the source of information isn't important.
I think some people have absolutely no problems with cognitive dissonance.
LOL...yeah, it's "my job". If a person articulates thoughts that don't agree with yours, and does it well, then â" well, then the only explanation is that they must be being paid by someone.
The irony is that we're having this discussion on the topic of a foreign power actually interfering in the US election, with the express purpose of sowing distrust and discrediting democracy.
I have read many hollow words, yet have not seen any solid proofs, other than many hollow words.
until people start acknowledging the appalling corruption that the hacks revealed.
Yep why are were crying the "Russians are coming" when the acts revealed are much worse the the act of spying?
I've been hearing this for weeks now and have yet to see One shred of evidence that the hack came from Russia. Damn anyone can hack a server in Russia and do a pivot off of that server to make it "Look" like the hack came from there. Really were is the proof?
Personally I think this is a false flag attack so when our own government hacks the elections were have someone to blame.
"Yes, help us cover up our nefarious and illegal horseshit shenanigans." -The Democratic Party
Their proof of "Russia" being the hacker, is that well Russia would be motivated to hack and affect the U.S. election, and therefore we have a potential motivation. Russia also has the capabilities.
Okay, yes, you have the motive, the tool and the opportunity. That can incriminate a suspect. But it utterly fails when a million others ALL have those same things.
'Despite the acknowledged threat, the DNI says digital attacks are unlikely to directly alter election results. "It would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion," '
Meaning: There is no reason to worry about anyone altering the actual vote count because the vote count will never be allowed to alter the outcome of the election.