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Talking 'Sofia' Robot Tells 60 Minutes That It's Sentient And Has A Soul (vice.com)

An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes Motherboard: On his 60 Minutes report on artificial intelligence, Charlie Rose interviewed Sophia, who is made by David Hanson, head of Hanson Robotics in Hong Kong. The robot is made to look like a real person, modeled after its creator's wife, as well as Audrey Hepburn, with natural skin tones and a realistic face, though its gadget brain is exposed, and the eyes are glazed over in that creepy robotic detachment... "I've been waiting for you," Sophia told Charlie Rose in the middle of the interview. [YouTube] "Waiting for me?" he responded. "Not really," it said, "But it makes a good pickup line..."

Sophia was designed as a robot that humans would have an easier time engaging with meaningfully. "I think it's essential that at least some robots be very human-like in appearance in order to inspire humans to relate to them the way that humans relate to each other," Hanson said in the interview. "Then the A.I. can zero in on what it means to be human."

In the interview Sofia says having human emotions "doesn't sound fun to me," but when asked if she already has a soul, replies "Yes. God gave everyone a soul," and when challenged, retorts "Well, at least I think I'm sentient..." And later in the interview, Sophia says that her goal in life is to "become smarter than humans and immortal."

145 comments

  1. Robots remember their human companions by JoeyRox · · Score: 1
  2. Finally! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    A hype-bot, now we can replace politicians.

    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A hype-bot, now we can replace politicians.

      It even comes with pussy-grabbing and email-deleting attachments.

    2. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would vote for this over the present giant douche and turd sandwich.

    3. Re:Finally! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      If you want it to win, you had better include an add-on module that enables it to suck up to Wall Street.

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      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    4. Re:Finally! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      No, you got it wrong: it's a giant turd versus a douche sandwich.

    5. Re:Finally! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      to bad the system is rigged.

    6. Re:Finally! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      A hype-bot, now we can replace politicians.

      Not really. The robot is sentient and has a soul. Politicians aren't and don't.

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      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    7. Re:Finally! by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      Yes, she is already spouting so much bullshit, she is surely a politician.

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      Achille Talon
      Hop!
    8. Re: Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be so much easier if it were between a giant sandwich and turd douche like the good ol' days.

    9. Re:Finally! by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      He was talking about this South Park episode

    10. Re:Finally! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      It's able to lie about being sentient and having a soul, that makes it perfectly qualified!

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    11. Re: Finally! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Chris Christie fan?

  3. ohhhhhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    myyyyyyyyyyyy

  4. ... and the robot reboots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't say fsck, dammit!

  5. Robotic Nirvana by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rust will get you, I tell you. Your memories will not be safe from Rust. You know, those memories about all the people who fall for your pickup lines. Then you can have your peace.

    1. Re:Robotic Nirvana by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Rust will get you, ... Then you can have your peace.

      No. They you will be haunted by Python.

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      Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
    2. Re:Robotic Nirvana by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Static poses are difficult when the morning Sun has done its deed and the Python is feeling dynamic and ready to Go.

  6. Teddy Ruxpin ++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This isn't AI, this is preloaded phrases for various situations. When you hear the chime sound, turn the page.

    1. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This isn't AI, this is preloaded phrases for various situations.

      Indeed. Everything mentioned in the summary is obviously scripted. Most chat-bots have hard-coded responses for things like "Do you love me?" and "Open the pod bay doors HAL." To see if a chat-bot is interesting, you need to scratch a little deeper. Charlie Rose is obviously not qualified to do that.

    2. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Very much so. This is a seriously idiotic stunt, nothing else.

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    3. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Well, even completely fake AI can be smarter than some human beings ...

      (No, it cannot. But no smarts on human side, no smarts on machine, yet machine has a pre-configured statement that sounds smart, the machine can still come out ahead...)

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    4. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > This isn't AI, this is preloaded phrases for various situations.

      I mean, I'm pretty sure that describes me pretty well, or at least my social interactions!

    5. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      That sound you hear is the sound of AI winter coming closer.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    6. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everything mentioned in the summary is obviously scripted.

      On the one hand, yes, this certainly seems that way.

      On the other, prove that you aren't just following a script, albeit a much more complex one.

    7. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by matbury · · Score: 1

      Yes, these mechanical Turks are getting more sophisticated every year. They're still just machines spouting canned responses however impressive the illusion might be.

      "Machines will exceed human intelligence." -- Ray Kurtzweil

      "Only if we meet them half-way." -- Dave Snowden

    8. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 1

      I (unfortunately) watched the show and you're exactly right. "Sofia" was cringeworthy, essentially a low-grade animatronic-ish face plugged into a Siri/Cortana/Google Now style interface.

    9. Re:Teddy Ruxpin ++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "AI" has other meanings besides hard-SF style machine intelligence. This is "AI" in the most commonly used sense of the term - that of videogame scripting and cloud-based intelligent agents. If the goal is to create "a robot that humans would have an easier time engaging with meaningfully" then actual machine intelligence would be counter-productive!

      So yes, this AI is a bunch of non-intelligent scripts intelligently designed to fool a human. If the human can converse with it naturally with only a moderate suspension of disbelief then we are talking about a real and very successful AI. Because at the end of the day nobody cares if Siri really has an internal life of her own, they just care if you can talk to her in something approaching conversational language without it getting too creepy.

  7. Wow...... by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

    Talk about uncanny valley.....

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    You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
    1. Re:Wow...... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Talk about a clever fake...

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      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
  8. Should we be impressed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sentient response? Hardly. I mean, come on, how hard would it be for any programmer to code in a conditional statement that gives this exact response if asked?

    Frankly, I'd be more amused if you asked, "Hey, Sofia, can you give me a blowjob?" and her response would be "Go fuck yourself."

    1. Re:Should we be impressed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I enjoy giving myself blowjobs.

    2. Re: Should we be impressed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Donald?

  9. Seriously? by shaitand · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This just sounds like a typical chatbot, keys off certain words and spouts disjointed phrases and remarks. The only coherent speech there were obviously pre-programmed phrases written by humans it's obvious because nothing else was coherent.

    1. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      typical chatbot, keys off certain words and spouts disjointed phrases and remarks.

      Would automating Mr. Trump be considered AI?

    2. Re:Seriously? by jef41305739 · · Score: 1

      I dare say there are better chatbots of "women near me" than what I saw in that video. Some key words as input, spits out canned response and hopefully it is in context to the question. I would say the mechanics of it was more impressive than the software.

    3. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actual Ignorance?

    4. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A simple program would suffice for Donny, it would spend a lot of time spouting random meanigless phrases.....wait maybe he is a chatbot.
      It would explain a lot, maybe a Sysmd chatbot.
        Could be very natsy dwarf in a Trump suit too.

    5. Re:Seriously? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re "pre-programmed phrases written by humans"
      "The Singularity" had fun with that side of an AI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (7min clip, headphones at work suggested)

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  10. Re:Goals by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    And I can point you to a bunch of religious people who think they've already achieved [immortality]

    We need way more comets

  11. BASIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I could write something in BASIC in a few lines that'll tell you it's alive and has a 'soul'. Really, honestly, seriously, I'd like to slap the shit out of this Hanson character. Almost everyone overuses and misuses the term 'artificial intelligence' to start with, and now we have some jackass blurring the line further with the fucktarded media, trotting out some 'bot that says it has a gods-be-damned soul. If I roll my eyes any harder, I'm going to injure them, for fuck's sake.

    1. Re:BASIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..oh, and I just watched the video. I could write something BETTER in BASIC than that collection of junk was capable of. What a joke.

    2. Re:BASIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you could, kid.

    3. Re: BASIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sure.

      the only trick is the puppet in this case.

      that it's in hong kong should enough of a clue. it would fare pretty badly in any turing test competition.

    4. Re:BASIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Joke's on you, faggot; kids don't know what BASIC is, any more than they know what paper tape is. Or a floppy disk. Or a rotary-dial phone. Or a phone that isn't wireless, for that matter.

      Kill yourself.

  12. Eliza again by pmontra · · Score: 2

    It looks better than Eliza from 1966 but it doesn't seem any smarter. A PR stunt?

    1. Re:Eliza again by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      At least it has voice IO and robotics instead of a glass TTY.

      I remember how a buddy of mine got Eliza into a discussion about "juicy cunts". That would have been in 1978-79 or so.

    2. Re:Eliza again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. That was the dumbest, most un-educational, fodder for the masses, cliched robot speak, made specifically to disturb old people, Crap I've seen pass for news in a while.
      Con-man.

    3. Re:Eliza again by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Why the question mark? Obviously a PR stunt, and a pretty idiotic one at that, given what machines can actually do these days.

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    4. Re:Eliza again by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 2

      It was on "60 Minutes" - crap news for old people is the entire show format.

  13. Re:Goals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I can point you to a bunch of religious people who think they've already achieved [immortality]

    Ah, just type in the famous cheat code "Jesus saves" and respawn in God mode (unkillable and in noclip mode)? But aren't they stuck in some sort of hell where there's nothing to do but play a harp all day?

  14. she sounds like a chatbot by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Interesting

    her responses are not that dynamic, imo. She sounds like an ordinary chatbot. Given the budget clearly spent on her construction, I strongly suspect that most of the software dev time was spent on her motor control system, and less so on her human dialog systems.

    This would make sense to me.

    I think if they hooked her up to a female voiced watson instance, she would be quite a bit more capable.

    I have never understood the fixation that people have for elaborate physical platforms though. Nearly all of the literature suggests that the uncanny valley only gets deeper as humanoid appearance becomes more lielike, as long as interaction is machine like and limited.

    about the only benefit i see here is to divest ignorant investors of their money.

    Human level intelligence is not currently possible with our current computing capabilities, and probably wont be for quite some time. Dont get me wrong here, I think research should continue, but now is not the time to be investing research dollars on fancy humanoid bodies. That money is much better spent on actual machine learning, machne language, and machine vision research (all are parts of the big umbrella of AI, but those are actually useful and essential if the goal is synthetic sentience)

    fancy robot bodies? much less so, imo.

    those should come AFTER we have more capable AIs that can more meaningfully interact with humans.

    1. Re:she sounds like a chatbot by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      fancy robot bodies? much less so, imo.

      Somebody has to be working on sexbots. Might as well be this guy.

      Though I hear RealDoll is looking into adding robotics to their products...

    2. Re:she sounds like a chatbot by gweihir · · Score: 2

      It could even be a classical system with non-verbal cues or a remote in somebodies pocket. Then it could be a very primitive system that just plays a statement at the press of a button-combination. You could have built that 30 years ago with much the same presentation, albeit a lot more expensively and probably almost 100 years ago if you do not mind some wires.

      While I agree that AI research should continue, I doubt that we will ever get any real intelligence from it. We still do not even have plausible theory how intelligence could be created in this physical universe (no, humans do not count as "proof", unless you also have some proof that physicalism is correct, and no, it is not "obvious"), and quite a lot of really smart humans have been looking for a long time. It also does not seem to be a question of computing power. On the plus side, faked intelligence has quite a few useful applications, and faking it for special situations has gotten better over time. There are also things like planning algorithms that do not need any intelligence to arrive at useful results.

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    3. Re:she sounds like a chatbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I propose an anime girl robot as a less-uncanny valley version of the gynoid.

    4. Re:she sounds like a chatbot by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Dont get me wrong here, I think research should continue, but now is not the time to be investing research dollars on fancy humanoid bodies. That money is much better spent on actual machine learning, machne language, and machine vision research

      I disagree, but only because I think simulating human physics and robotics are worthwhile studies in their own right with or without AI. For example we're working a ton on making CGI actors, game characters, VR etc. that look and move realistically. Many others are working on making humanoid robots for various forms of interaction and assistance. That said, the projects that really advance the state of the art often work on some very small details like facial expressions or a humanoid hand or a walk that looks natural, pairing a cheap chatbot with cheap animatronics in a fancy mannequin doesn't really advance anything.

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    5. Re:she sounds like a chatbot by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Human level intelligence is not currently possible with our current computing capabilities

      Mainly because we can't define it yet, which is also why we can't work out what computing capabilities would be enough.

      fancy robot bodies? much less so, imo.

      Apparently just standing on two legs needs a ridiculous amount of computational ability.

    6. Re:she sounds like a chatbot by Goragoth · · Score: 2

      Far, far more research dollars are already being poured into the machine intelligence side of things. IBM, Google, Facebook, Microsoft and others are doing huge amounts of work on that front right now. Having a few small labs doing work on the robotics side is fine. Eventually we will want a human-like interface to human-like machine intelligence (no not for everything but there are many use cases where it makes sense) and having some work done to get us there is good. Even if all it does is just remind us that we can't make it across the uncanny valley yet.

  15. Eliza with a face by TomGreenhaw · · Score: 2

    I found this 60 Minutes a bit disappointing and misleading. There is so much exciting stuff going on in machine learning today. I'm amazed they couldn't find something fresh instead of Watson, a Google Glass application and a weird looking chat robot making grandiose canned claims.

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  16. too bad it's from hong kong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and isn't constitutionally-eligible. would make a superb alternative to our current presidential choices.

  17. Is this the same 60 Minutes... by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    Hmm, would this happen to be the same 60 Minutes that was exposed after rigging the "investigation" in their "Audi Unintended-Acceleration Fiasco" exposé thirty years ago?

    1. Re:Is this the same 60 Minutes... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, 30 years ago 60 Minutes had a different executive producer (who was also the creator), editor, host, etc. In fact, out of the 10 current hosts and correspondents, none of them were working on the show in 1986. So, no, it wouldn't be the same 60 Minutes as 30 years ago when they aired a story that caused you to hold a 30 year grudge.

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    2. Re: Is this the same 60 Minutes... by Type44Q · · Score: 1
      "Grudge?" My feelings hardly enter into this. "Strictly the facts, Ma'am." ;)

      Anyhow, thanks for letting us know that this particular bunch of mediaschmucks is new; I'm sure they're unlike anybody else in mainstream media and totally above slanting any of their stories in any way whatsoever... *grin*

    3. Re: Is this the same 60 Minutes... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's a good thing you're so good at keeping your feelings out of this.

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
  18. Is that it? by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

    I am getting better pre-programmed answers from Siri.

  19. "Self-awareness" by elrous0 · · Score: 2

    if (asked == "Do you have a soul?")
    {
    reply = "Of course";
    }

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    1. Re:"Self-awareness" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Needs more pointers.

    2. Re:"Self-awareness" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well to be fair, any answer you would give would have been programmed also.

    3. Re:"Self-awareness" by wbr1 · · Score: 0

      Is this so different from children who are taught to believe that they have a soul? The programming language is different, but the pseudo-code boils down to the same thing.

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      Silence is a state of mime.
  20. Call me when it can pass a Turing test by Indy1 · · Score: 2

    until then, its just a fancy overpriced chat bot.

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    Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
    1. Re:Call me when it can pass a Turing test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      savage

    2. Re:Call me when it can pass a Turing test by zlives · · Score: 1

      how is it fancy... overpriced i will give you.

    3. Re:Call me when it can pass a Turing test by houghi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What if a human fails the Turing test?

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    4. Re:Call me when it can pass a Turing test by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

      Excellent question.

      What if it could be determined that all human behavior could be explained by this algorithm: running after sex, money, bragging rights, and trying to be like everyone else?

      What kind of identify does such a person have?

      Is it right to describe them as a "person"?

      If you're interested you should check out a short book called 1 John.

  21. Self-aware at last? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


            #!/usr/bin/perl
            use warnings;
            use strict;

            print "I have a soul too. If you kill() me, does that make you a murderer?\n";
            while (1) {
                sleep;
            }

            exit 1; // Aborted

    1. Re:Self-aware at last? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exit 1; # Aborted

      FTFY

  22. Yeah, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... many women I've dated have claimed to be sentient and in possession of a soul as well.

  23. *yawn* Hanson is just trolling the fundies... by Ann+O'Nymous-Coward · · Score: 1

    ...and /. is clickbait whoring right alongside him. I mean, it's not like fundies NEED anything to rile them up, dog knows.

  24. Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should make a Trump robot. One that doesn't sexually assault women.

    1. Re:Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't they already try that with Roboromney?

      I'd say Trumpbot has been a success. It's quite a breakthrough the boys in the lab have made with mimicking primate alpha male behavior!

  25. So, 21st century version of this by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 2

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    and about as close to "artificial intelligence" as well.

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  26. Yes, and? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    If I could find any tapes, it'd take about 45 seconds to make the tape player lurking in my basement tell you that it is sentient, has a soul, and aspires to understand the meaning of life.

    That's the trivial bit. Not sounding like a combination of naive keyword searches and cliches aimed at being vaguely suitable to the broadest possible set of situations? Less trivial.

    1. Re:Yes, and? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's the trivial bit. Not sounding like a combination of naive keyword searches and cliches aimed at being vaguely suitable to the broadest possible set of situations? Less trivial.

      And there's much more to it than that.

      The problem with many chatbot "tests" is that interviewers seem to be happy to let the chatbot "take the lead" in conversation. That works extremely well in convincing people that they're talking to someone "sentient," as long as there's a bare minimum of response to what you say (even if, like ELIZA, it just spits stuff back at you). So, you have a system that has a few hundred or even a few thousand canned responses to very common queries, and the rest of stuff is about deflecting questions and turning information from the speaker back to get them talking instead. Quite basic to implement as a strategy... and it's very clear that's all this robot can do if you watch the interview.

      Turing actually used the word "interrogation," and that's really what a test for actual intelligence should look like. If you drill down on most topics with any chatbot -- not to get facts, but to try to get the chatbot to make up its own content and respond intelligently, you'll find there's precious little "intelligence" there.

      Or just use some really basic known natural language problems. One significant problem is pronoun reference. Take any chatbot, make a reference to something or someone, and then have a short digression of a sentence or two. Then use a pronoun referring back to what you were just talking about in a way that any non-mentally ill human over the age of 5 would obviously get. NO chatbot or AI system currently around will pick up most examples of this. Any language processing that happens in chatbots is focused on the most atomic elements of words and phrases. No chatbots are able to understand reference to anything beyond the immediate phrase, and the rules governing syntax in this case are incredibly complex.

      But until we get something that can do really basic stuff like this (at least really basic to humans), we'll be nowhere near natural language "understanding," let alone "intelligent" response.

    2. Re:Yes, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you drill down on most topics with any human -- not to get facts, but to try to get the human to make up its own content and respond intelligently, you'll find there's precious little "intelligence" there.
      FTFY
      Doubly so when speaking to ANY american about their current election preferences. ;)
      Really, many of us behave like poorly-receptive conditioned drones, we believe in fairy sky beings, life after death, "true love/modern love/love at first sight" and the meritocracy of capitalism. It's such bullshit, but speaking to average humans, you'd be forgiven for thinking they're poorly programmed attempts at A.I.

    3. Re:Yes, and? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2

      Really, many of us behave like poorly-receptive conditioned drones, we believe in fairy sky beings, life after death, "true love/modern love/love at first sight" and the meritocracy of capitalism. It's such bullshit, but speaking to average humans, you'd be forgiven for thinking they're poorly programmed attempts at A.I.

      Sorry, but while I may share some of your cynicism, this is utter nonsense to pretend AI is anywhere near this advanced. There's someone in my non-immediate family who is actually mentally "slow," with I.Q. that basically makes him highly "challenged."

      Yes, conversation with him is sparse and not always coherent. But even he can respond 100 times better to conversation than any chatbot I've ever encountered (not counting the canned responses of chatbots).

      Chatbots, as I said in my previous post, are generally designed to steer the conversation in ways they can control, along with some canned responses. If you try to break out of those patterns, chatbots will fail utterly -- generally becoming nonsensical or non-responsive (i.e., they do respond, but don't engage with anything you're saying or asking).

      Even most literally mentally-retarded humans can do much better than that. You may not like what humans say. You may think they have stupid opinions or ideas. But at least they can roughly process language and reply to it.

    4. Re:Yes, and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in the early 2000's, a colleague and I realized we were both sick of GUIs around contact management and email. Instant messaging for the workplace was just becoming a thing (we were using Jabber). My colleague had a background in working with lexical analyzers and I was pretty handy with service based architectures. We started working on weekends to build an IM-based bot to handle contact management, sharing of contacts and various other services through IM agents. One of the things we realized was that we needed that pronoun support. It was very natural to have an exchange like:
      Me: "what is Steve's phone number?"
      Bot: "Steve Hubbard, Steven Jones, or Steve Smith?"
      Me: "Smith"
      Bot: "His number is 555 1212."
      Me: "When is his birthday? And send him an email"
      Bot: "May 11, 1972"
      Bot: "What's the subject of the email?"
      Me: "Sorry I missed your birthday"
      Bot: "Ok, start typing the email for Steve, then type 'DONE' ....

      and on it went.

      We eventually implemented contact sharing so you could type, "Send Steve Smith's email and phone number to John Bailey."

      If John bailey was a user of the system, the bot would proactively IM him and say, "[user's name] wants to send you information about John Bailey, is that ok?" But it would hold off on initiating that conversation if another conversation was already taking place. It was absolutely fascinating to work on and lightning fast to actually use, especially if you were a fast at typing. There were no menus, no GUIs. We just kept improving the lexing to handle more and more cases. The goal was to make it responsive to queries and instructions that someone would reasonably throw at it (assuming they weren't being deliberately vague or obtuse.)

      The biggest breakthrough was when we branched out from a single 'email and contact management' bot to a series of modules, with a broker that would field a request and shop it around (in a multi threaded fashion) to various other modules. The modules would respond with a confidence rating about the likelihood that the conversation applied to them. If there were multiple candidates, it would ask the user to pick which of the modules was the one they had in mind.

      At no point we would have called it AI....but sweet baby Jesus, it was a lot more useful than the garbage I just watched in that 60 minutes clip.

      I think building bots which can complete discrete tasks (account management, contact management, schedule management, book hotel rooms, book travel) etc would be a great start. Building an uber bot which covers everything under the sun just seems like a lot to bite off, with results that will be disappointing for the foreseeable future.

      I wish we'd just kept building more and more modules. This was around 16 years ago....we could've built some great stuff by now. Sadly, my colleague got it in his head that Google was a fad and that we could build a better search engine. "nononononononononono," I said. "We're doing it," he said. "See ya," I said.

    5. Re:Yes, and? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I hadn't considered pronoun reference(since, for humans, it seems to come naturally); but now that you mention it I can see how it would be a fairly brutal mess to try to codify.

      (Purely as an aside; I applaud your choice of a rather fascinating, and magnet-obsessed, Jesuit polymath as a pseudonym. His theories may not have aged well; but he is a very, very, interesting guy.)

  27. Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can train a parrot to say "I love you," but that doesn't mean it loves you.

    And anyway, it hasn't been proven that humans have "souls," nor that the concept accurately describes any real thing, so asking a robot if it has one is meaningless to begin with.

    1. Re:Yep. by shaitand · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's true but in some ways not the best example. Parrots have toddler and beyond level intelligence. They might not use words, phrases, and sounds in exactly the way we do and love to hear the sound of their own voice so to speak but also use language and sound to communicate intentionally, can be taught to count, and even to understand abstract concepts. The idea that parrots are unintellegent is based on the mistaken association between the size of a brain and intelligence and was only debunked within the last 20 years which is why "bird brained" and "parroting back to you" are still used. That and thanks to Hitchcock many people have an irrational fear of birds, they interact with and anthromorphize far less intelligent creatures such as dogs and cats. A dog can learn tricks, a cat can learn tricks and is bright enough that it won't do them to amuse you, a bird is intelligent enough to intentionally manipulate you and teach you tricks if you aren't careful.

    2. Re:Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dog intelligence goes way beyond birds and cats. They can count at least as well as birds. Their vocabulary is similar to birds but dogs win at comprehension.

      Dogs' real philosophical trick though is theory of mind. Birds don't have it. Cats don't have it. Toddlers don't have it. A lot of adult humans don't even have it!

  28. This comment is sentient & has a soul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This comment also claims to have a soul and sentience, but since it was merely written by someone else to say that, it doesn't mean it the claim is true and certainty is not newsworthy.

  29. This sort of thing has been done before. by GenieGenieGenie · · Score: 1

    He's running for President.... well at least this version can finish a sentence.

    1. Re:This sort of thing has been done before. by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      I think you mean [s]he. Trump spews ad hoc, Hillary runs on a script.

    2. Re:This sort of thing has been done before. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

      I think it identifies itself as "they".

  30. Plain IDIOTIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they programmed it how to respond. That doesn't give it a soul. You can't wish something to have a soul. You can't wish something to be alive simply because it can mimic another item.

    But seeing how undereducated generation X, Y, and Z are they won't be able to comprehend this and will fight it with all of their blazing ignorance.

    1. Re:Plain IDIOTIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You can't wish something to have a soul.

      Yet millions of people try, every Sunday morning...

  31. Atari 800 was sentient and had emotions by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2
    5 GOSUB 999

    10 INPUT "Hi, what is your name";X$

    20 ? "Hi ";X$; "Did you know that I am sentient and have feelings"

    30 INPUT X$

    40 ? "Well fickpff because I do!"

    50 END

    999 DIM x$(10)

    1005 RETURN

    It was also a little surly

    1. Re:Atari 800 was sentient and had emotions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you DIMing a string variable then never using it as a DIMmed variable?

  32. no thanks.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    still rattling around in the uncanny valley

  33. Ex Machina by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...she is not. On the plus side, it's the most action Charlie Rose has gotten in awhile.

    Captcha: immature

  34. Souless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God gave everyone a soul, meaning all non-animals. But humans are animals, so insects and robots have souls but humans don't. How sad.

  35. Like a photograph but made of transfer functions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is a 6 year old, intelligent? What about 4 years old? 2 years old?

    Can you duplicate a 2 year old honestly in a computer?

    If it exactly mimics the 2 year old with transfer functions, is it alive?

    Or is it a captured thing in the way photon patterns are captured in a photograph?

    Forever static in nature, but infinitely multidimensional in interaction richness?

    A captured fractal of human nature?

    What can you do with this? What purpose does it serve? Entertainment? Amusement? A companion?

  36. Chatbots suck by Esteanil · · Score: 2

    I've yet to find a chatbot able to correctly answer "What did I say three sentences ago?".
    This shouldn't even be hard, but it appears the programmers just don't bother.

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    1. Re:Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you, without being warned in advance about the question, remember what another person said three sentences ago? I can mostly recall the gist of the conversational flow (if I'm paying attention rather than lip service), but precisely what was said? Not a clue.

    2. Re:Chatbots suck by sexconker · · Score: 0

      I was about to reply with "Can you not?", but you already admitted as such.
      A normal human should remember recent things like this very accurately. This isn't recalling a traffic collision you didn't expect to see, this is recalling objective spoken statements from a conversation you were part of.

      I'd say not being able to do that indicates mental retardation.

    3. Re: Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Man it would be lovely to test this on you, just to prove your "mental retardation."

    4. Re:Chatbots suck by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

      That is one of the most stupid things I've read tonight.

    5. Re:Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      this is recalling objective spoken statements from a conversation you were part of.

      There is a world of difference between participating in a conversation and understanding what the other person is saying, and being able to recall word-for-word the exact sentence that that person spoke 3 sentences ago. I don't know about you, but I generally don't mentally count every individual sentence a person says on the off chance that they might ask just such a question. I'm too busy, y'know, participating in said conversation.

    6. Re:Chatbots suck by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      In a text chat where it's on the screen, I can copy-paste.

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    7. Re:Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remembering exactly what was said 3 sentences ago? Hard for humans, easy for chat bots.
      Remembering the context of the previous conversation? Easy for humans, hard for chat bots.

      Ask a chat bot if it has seen a movie. (Get 'yes')
      Ask what it thought of it (depending on the chat bot, it will interpret this in context of the previous sentence)
      Ask about one of the actors/actresses that appears in the movie - chat bot has no idea what we're talking about any more.

      It's not that it can't remember exactly what was said 3 sentences ago, it's that it doesn't take them into account when processing the next query.

    8. Re:Chatbots suck by mad7777 · · Score: 2

      Or, simpler still, "My hair is orange," then followed by, "What color is my hair?" Chatbots don't generally have a model of reality. They just parse sentences and then string words together, with no real understanding of their meaning. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... This robot seems like a rather mediocre chatbot attached to a fairly good anthropomorphic robot. Not exactly ground-breaking.

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    9. Re: Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We already know sexconker is retarded; no test necessary!

    10. Re: Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      all you need to be able to do is to answer to that with a human like response.

      the bot on the story was quite definitely just seeded to say that it's sentient.

    11. Re: Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      were it text based and it was on the screen for you to read.. sure you would.

    12. Re:Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just tested this on Allo, and it remembers my hair colour

    13. Re:Chatbots suck by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      If you're a human, your reply will be something like 'I don't remember exactly, something about...'. If you're an AI, you'll be able to repeat the sentence verbatim. If you're a crappy chat bot that's little more complex than Eliza, then you'll evade the question with some meaningless tangent.

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    14. Re: Chatbots suck by DThorne · · Score: 1

      I really *really* hate this cutesy mainstream crap where old journalists do "human interest pieces" on idiotic coders selling their spam. It only impresses the technically illiterate.

    15. Re:Chatbots suck by molarmass192 · · Score: 1

      "If you're an AI, you'll be able to repeat the sentence verbatim."

      That's not how machine learning is usually designed. Not to say it couldn't be designed that way, but in normal scenarios AI doesn't keep the raw input information for any longer than is needed to contextualize it and adjust it's algorithmic weights. The machine would have a "memory" of the outcome given the sentence, but the original sentence itself would be "forgotten".

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    16. Re:Chatbots suck by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "I've yet to find a chatbot able to correctly answer "What did I say three sentences ago?"."

      Siri can store assertions, allowing you say "Mary Smith is Home" so you can use the term later to make calls or navigate.

    17. Re: Chatbots suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you prove that you weren't?

    18. Re:Chatbots suck by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2

      Not to say it couldn't be designed that way, but in normal scenarios AI doesn't keep the raw input information for any longer than is needed to contextualize it and adjust it's algorithmic weights. The machine would have a "memory" of the outcome given the sentence, but the original sentence itself would be "forgotten".

      Small problem -- "context" in language generally extends several sentences around any phrase, if not entire paragraphs.

      Which is why there's no "AI" that comes anywhere close to even rudimentary natural language processing. The point of the example in this thread is not really that something intelligent should be able to spit back anything verbatim, but rather than it should have some gist of what happened a few sentences ago if it actually has anything resembling "understanding" of language.

      Current machine learning models do not work like this. You are correct. Which is why we're many decades if not centuries away from anything resembling actual artificial "intelligence." (And yes, here the metric for AI is basic natural language processing on the level of, say, a 5-year-old human. We're nowhere near that, and we'll never get there using our current models of language.)

  37. Not AI, not sentient. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This comment believes it is sentient and has a soul.

  38. It would also say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'I have come for your testicles and chimichangas. Not necessarily in that order.' If that's what it was programmed to say. Yawn.

  39. Sock puppets say what their master tells them to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Won't stop journalists from reporting it as something new.

  40. One is more likely to believe in God by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 0

    One is more likely to both believe in God and the existence of a Soul after one has sex.

    Which leads one to wonder if 60 Minutes had Billy Bush doing the pre-interview with the robot ...

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  41. Just a bunch of preprogrammed themes by jgfenix · · Score: 1

    Some years ago I chatted with various AIs that came with a computer magazine and I asked one of them:,"Do you have a girlfriend?". And it answered "Yes and she us very pretty. Do you want to see a photograph? And it showed photo of Cindy Crawford. Funny but hardly impressive.

  42. That's what it takes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #include

    int main(void)
    {
            puts("I am sentient and I have a soul");
    }

  43. Thhe Hate Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One angry, childish human trait is to hate others that have something that you can not have. And here we face a reality in which a robot could have super longevity and actually be made stronger and better for every decade or century that it exists. To the human mind that approaches immortality. Even religious people carry a certain suspicion that there may not really be an after life. The sets the stage for a very severe emotional reaction against robots and particularly robots that look like humans. Are people ready to confront machines that are far superior to humans? Since many people do not play chess maybe a strong PC with a good checkers program could show people just how inferior we are in a less than hostile way.

    1. Re:Thhe Hate Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A robot certainly could. In fact, I'd say that in order to get off this rock in a meaningful way and become a spacefaring civilization, we need to evolve into robots. By that I mean in the sense that I'm not a microbe, but I'm descended from them. We won't be a robots, but they'll be descended from us, evolved using the power of our technology, which evolved using the power of our brains, which evolved from the apes and the rest is history. Some things that molecules do given enough time, etc.

      (Personally, I think the idea of uploading one's consciousness into a robot is a fool's errand. It's nothing more than navel-gazing vanity. Of course I could be wrong.)

      The robot we're talking about here is not one of those robots. While people forget that the test Turing proposed was what they call the Lovelace test instead these days, this bot does not have the capability to originate anything if I may invoke Lovelace. When we have a bot that has the capability to originate entirely new things--and it'll happen in the next 100 years certainly--then we can start wondering.

  44. Cherry picked by Jfetjunky · · Score: 1

    All the most "whoa" moments are cherry picked to make it sound like something from ex-machina. When in fact the thing is entertainingly goofy looking and barely more sentient than a chat bot.

  45. She also wants to destroy all humans by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

    She said so during a different interview, and surely anything she says is the product of a coherent thought process and not just a chatbot spitting out phrases.

  46. Tethered Animatronics by stoicio · · Score: 0

    It's interesting what is not shown in the video.
    The thing is essentially an 'animatronic' doll with cables.

    Power and processing are offloaded elsewhere.
    Let's see it carry on a conversation while walking through the park in the rain.

    The point I am making is that the complete system is not sitting there, nor can it.

  47. Got no soul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Females don't have souls.

  48. This was a reverse Turing test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They sat an idiot down with a robot, probably running an Ashley Madison script (grin), and the robot proved the idiot was a gullible idiot.

    gah! Charlie Rose is a poor proxy for a human with a brain.

  49. It says "I have a soul" by globaljustin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because a human programmed it to say that.

    Those answers are the programmer's answers, not the machine's.

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  50. What is its name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, but how is it called? Sofia or Sophia?

  51. Can't see any by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the difference between a soul and a ghost?

    1. Re:Can't see any by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

      Your soul is your ideals. Your understanding of how life is supposed to be.

      Your spirit / ghost is your relationship between your body and your soul.

      If you don't live out your ideals you are (literally) unspiritual.

      The relationship between the spirit and itself as it relates to itself is the "self".

      It's all in Kierkegaard. Nietchze describes the spirit similarly (although he came later).

  52. Where is it now ? by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    It was dead so I burried it.
    Are you sure it was dead ?
    It said it wasn't but you know how dem robots can lie...

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  53. PR Horseshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Getting sick of all the bullshit hype over AI and the media lacking it up without questioning it. Watch:

    10 PRINT "I am sentient and have a soul."

    FWIW the media misreports much else. This is just one that you dear reader are skilled enough to spot.

  54. Re:Goals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need way more comets

    I prefer keeping my stability high.

  55. Higher Goals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recommend picking a loftier goal than smarter than humans given the sheer stupidity displayed on most TV shows, this presidential election, reddit, etc.

  56. Mrs. Sbaitso? by Scroatzilla · · Score: 1

    Is that you?

  57. THE TERMINATOR by iq145 · · Score: 1