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Nearly 9 Out of 10 Smartphones Shipped Run On Android (cnet.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNET: Google's Android operating system was the big winner in a big time for worldwide phone shipments, market researcher Strategy Analytics reported Wednesday. Android captured 88 percent of all smartphone shipped in the third quarter of 2016, a period that also marks the fastest growth rate in a year. "Android's gain came at the expense of every major rival platform," Strategy Analytics' Linda Sui said in a press release. "Apple iOS lost ground to Android and dipped to 12 percent [market]share," primarily because of "lackluster" sales in China and Africa, she said. And don't bother looking for BlackBerry and Microsoft Windows phones in the mix. They "all but disappeared" in the period between July 1 and the end of September. While Android's leading position looks "unassailable," it does face challenges in a market filled with phones made by hundreds manufacturers, few of which turn a profit. That's not helped by Google's new Pixel phone, which competes against the companies that made it popular in the first place, Strategy Analytics said. About 375 million smartphones shipped in the third quarter of 2016, up 6 percent from 354.2 million units in the same period last year. Shipments of Android-based phones rose 10.3 percent, while Apple's iPhones fell 5.2 percent.
Trolling for a "funny" there?
For 'brand new' shipping today devices what versions of Android are going out?
version today
https://developer.android.com/...
People that think they matter use iPhones. Period.
Fixed that for ya.
The old Samsung does everything the iPhone does. I noticed the Apple marketing for the iPhone 7 recently, and the things the iPhone 7 camera can do I have been able to do on my Samsung for the last three years. (Not that I do, they're mostly gimmicks).
All of my wife's friends were Apple users until the last 12 months or so, now my wife is the last iPhone user in her group of friends. That's hardly a scientific poll or anything, but white, relatively wealthy middle class women used to be the core iPhone buyer.
Just my two cents worth really, make of it what you will.
Market up 6%, iPhone down 5.2% = same people buying iPhones. Bottom of the market is swapping out really cheap dumbphones with almost as cheap Android "smartphones", but usually all the smart bits are very poor. A quick check at my local price check shows the cheapest Android phones sell for 1/5th of the price of the cheapest iPhone. It's like the market for $100,000 cars vs $20,000 cars, no wonder new buyers are in the $20k market. By itself that's no reason Apple should worry, Android got the volume and Apple the big spenders.
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Let's see, I can choose between:
iPhone: Proprietary, unchangeable, walled garden, one vendor, one device.
Android: Open source, changeable, free, many vendors, many devices.
Is this even a choice?
1 out of the multitude smartphone manufacturers ships with iOS.
I can't understand why some would develop exclusively for such a small market share.
So we ended up with the MS of the mobile world. Don't get me wrong, I use an Android phone, and I think things are OK right now, but if Google decided to become a super dick -- the battle starts all over again.
I think my next phone will run Ubuntu.
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No need to round before finding a nice ratio approximation, it adds error needlessly.
Security updates are for losers.
off course, you ship your note 7 to the customer and back.... twice in the same year, so every note was counted 4 times, it kinda helps...
Over in the Apple forum they're saying iOS and Android are both doing well with a combined 99% market share.
Samsung was the only Android handheld manufacturer making any actual profit (not a loss or breaking even), and the billions upon billions of dollars of costs for the Note 7 issues have wiped out years worth of profit for the things. That means that at this point, Apple is the only company actually making any significant profit in the industry.
So, is it really so bad to only have 12% of the market when you're the only ones making any money?
Depends on where you're talking about. iPhones are definitely dominant in the US. But go outside the country, and Androids flip the scale
"Nearly 9 Out of 10 Smartphones Shipped Run On Android"
And only 3 out of 10 of them experience unwanted explosions!
See that's trolling for a funny.
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You mean the other 7 are wanted?
And that is good for the consumer because???
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There are a grand total of 10 smart phones that can run the latest iOS, or one previous version.
On the Android side, LG, Samsung, Huawei, HTC and Motorola each have as many compatible devices or more. Significantly more in some cases.
I can't find a comprehensive list of all the smart phones that are android compatible (mostly because the market is so fragmented on versions) but it seems very likely that Android has 10x as many platforms as iOS, if not more... so it seems reasonable that they'd have 10x the market share (give or take)
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Quit lying, you iTard. You don't have any Android phones.
Nearly everyone I know owns an iPhone.
That's because you probably work in the US, amid middle class or higher folks income-wise. Just in the US alone, iPhones account for 40% of smartphones. By the time you factor in your income and job, it's likely a much higher percentage.
And it's not just poor people that buy Android phones, of course. I bought a rather expensive HTC One (m7) Android phone as my first smart phone, and still enjoy using it. At the time, I didn't own any Apple products, and saw no reason to jump into their ecosystem. On the other hand, I already had a gmail account for my personal mail. I figured if nothing else, an Android phone was guaranteed to work well with that. Plus, of course, I figured I'd have a bit more control over my phone with Android. Of course, that was before I realized Verizon sent me a phone with apps that I couldn't uninstall. Doh. Well, at least I can still load unauthorized apps if I want to.
My next phone may be an iPhone simply to round out my personal development platforms. Alternatively, it may be a Pixel, expensive as it is, simply because I'm sick of carriers pushing their shit that I don't want on my phone (unwanted apps), and NOT pushing the shit I actually DO want (security updates). I haven't quite decided yet.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
Open a shell on any android and type 'uname' or 'uname -a'. That is: if you know what a shell is. My point being that both industry and press bend over backwards to avoid the L-word. I wonder why.
In all honesty: the structure erected on top of it is a horror. From the beginning I never understood the enthousiasm for Java and the necessity to introduce it everywhere. Its strongest selling point was its invulnerability for malware, but once introduced this invulnerability was shortlived. And now this lumbering, vulnerable and slow language is the pivot on which the world turns.
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I see a lot of iPhones around and considered one myself but I bought a Samsung S5 Active at over 700 dollars new. I could have gotten an iPhone and did consider it as I own a Mac computer but.....no SD storage and no battery access killed it for me. I know that doesn't matter to most people but I like the ability to swap batteries instead of worrying about charging my phone. Now Samsung is getting in on the sealed phone fad and my wife wound up replacing her Note 3 with an LG. That's the best thing about Android. Any time one company sticks their head up their ass you can just move to another Android maker. When Apple shoves their head up their rectum you just get covered in shit if you want iOS.
Unless you're using your phone for financial transactions security updates aren't all that critical. I use my phone for phone calls and reading books, you tube, surfing and listening to music. I don't use it to buy stuff because I don't trust it because I have absolutely no control whatsoever over the operating system. It has apps I can't get rid of and I get updates I don't want. I'm never going to trust that kind of system.
Still making a killing on Android patents from direct competitors without having to lift a finger, must be nice.
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Or not, but it doesn't matter, since the desktop really isn't as relevant as it used to be.
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Unlike iOS apps, where Apple actively discourages this, Android apps usually run on fairly old versions too. If you are still running the fairly antique version 2.3, you can still run a lot. If you're on 4.4, you can run almost anything.
Imagine what would have happened if it was the iPhone 7 battery the one exploding here and there. The hit that iOS would have taken would have been brutal. However, while Samsung suffers, Android doesn't even register the Note 7 debacle. Samsung could disappear tomorrow and other companies would take its sales in a blink. Evolution at work. That's because Android is a platform, not a company. In the end, platforms, specially if they are somewhat open, always trump companies.
Some day Apple will make a bad mistake, like Samsung has done, and then its trademark will suffer. If the mistake is bad enough, they might never recover from it. If they don't make a big mistake, they might make lots of small ones, and also lose ground. If they don't make either a big or many small mistakes, then some innovative company with a better product will pop up somewhere and be the next cool thing. And the important thing is that this company will be forced to use Android because Apple does not license iOS.
So in the end Apple always loses, because they use a closed environment and that means that they don't allow evolution to work. That fact has been obscured by the real genius that Apple has shown these past years in creating a whole new category of devices. That gives you a nice head start, of course, but it's finished now. Their market share is starting to reflect the realities of the dead hand of markethistory :-)
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Not sure why this is a troll. I have an Android phone that I bought in 2013 (new, shortly after that model was launched). It still gets occasional security updates, but the last one was about 8 months after the exploit was seen in the wild and it hasn't received updates for the latest string of vulnerabilities. If I wanted to use my phone as a vaguely trusted device, I would need to replace it. Add to that, it was a cheap low-end phone: there's no iOS equivalent, so no one wanting to buy a cheap disposable phone will get an iPhone (or, at least, not a new one).
The big difference between iOS and Android is that with iOS the hardware manufacturer gets a cut of all sales from the default app store, on Android they don't. This means that Apple has a financial incentive to ensure that everyone who bought an iPhone can run the latest apps. If an Android handset manufacturer does the same thing, they just make it easier for Google to make money and decrease the probability that the user will buy a new phone, which is a net loss for them.
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If only it mattered, you would have a point.
Seriously, my two year old OnePlus One is on Marshmallow, a version behind the latest Nougat, or two if you want to count the recent 7.1 update. It doesn't matter, I still get security updates, it still runs every app I throw at it. There are a few new features in Nougat but actually a lot of the important stuff is part of the Google Launcher so runs on my phone anyway.
The phone is better than the day I bought it, secure and I'd rather it remains that way instead of getting updates that eventually cripple it or change functionality in annoying ways. If/when Nougat is available I'll evaluate it, but I'm not obsessed with being on the latest version and usually wait a month before installing updates for safety anyway.
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Who. Use "who" when referring to people, use "that" when referring to things.
Makes sense. I'm an android users, have been since 2010. iPhone makes ONE phone, per year. Android(s) make 5,304,504 phones per year from various manufacturers.
... receive regular Android updates from their OEMs?
with many manufactures involved, barely someone cam scream "monopoly!"
People that matter don't need a phone at all, their secretary takes calls for them.
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A robust signed-code infrastructure helps, but was late in coming to both platforms.
"And don't bother looking for BlackBerry and Microsoft Windows phones in the mix."
Lol, there's a Windows phone?? I'm pretty sure that's just an urban myth.
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Ironically, it seems that Jobs' initial closed-mindedness led to an inherently more-secure application environment. Although people can install arbitrary apps after jailbreaking, most iOS users never take that step, leaving the bulk of active devices well protected.
Who. Use "who" when referring to people, use "that" when referring to things.
From one enthusiast of the proper use of the English language to another, thank you.
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Mostly true, but you're leaving out one thing: Apple didn't have any of the public APIs, developer tools, or documentation ready to go when iPhone OS 1.0 shipped. They had a hard release window due to the January MacWorld keynote, and being late would have been a disaster. A lot of those early Cydia apps were horrible, because the developers had to figure out *everything* on their own using tools for developing Mac software.
Apple used the subsequent year between the original iPhone and the iPhone OS 2 in order to get ActiveSync working, as well as document public APIs and get the different tools ready in Xcode, including the device simulator. As well as figure out and implement the App Store infrastructure.
For all we know, 3rd party apps were always in the timeline. Cydia may have accelerated that timeline, and I'm glad it did.
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What part of the manufacturing process of a high end phone adds profit margin?
High or low end phone doesn't matter for profit margin, what matters is where they set the price.
Feature and spec wise, iPhones compete with mid-range Androids, but they are priced like high end Androids, that's why they have a huge profit margin, because they set the price high for the feature set and specs.
Kudos to Apple for finding enough suckers to buy their overpriced junk, but don't confuse profit margin with quality of the good being sold. The two are not related.
And yet my only iphone is in a drawer as it is unusably slow after only a couple years, meanwhile my much older androids are in use as various things from media player hooked up to the TV, to tablet for my daughter to play with, etc.
iPhones get slower and slower with each update, and if you don't update them all the apps stop working as they all insist on the latest OS. Meanwhile Androids get faster with each update, and the apps all keep trucking along. It helps that Android phones tend to be higher end devices with more memory, faster processors, more storage, and features that the iPhone wouldn't get for a couple years further in to the future.
Cult of Mac is one of many industry pubs documenteing this history.
Maybe you should check those stats...
http://www.independent.co.uk/l...
http://bgr.com/2016/10/03/ipho...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...
http://www.digitaltrends.com/m...
http://www.express.co.uk/life-...
Where I work we are half and half. We've also had more people go from iOS->Android than the other way around.
A former iOS user was astonished you could put in a memory card, plug the Android phone in to the computer, and just copy music to it.
Why are amiga computers so expensive still.
I've been an Android user since smartphones became popular, and I've never had malware on my phone. And while it's true that some carriers stop sending updates stupidly quickly, I've never seen one that was "unupgradable", though I'm sure that's a thing that probably does happen eventually. Please ignore the fact that you can't get iOS 10 on a 4 year old iPhone, while you can run Marshmallow, the latest fully released Android version (Nougat is only partially released atm), on 7 year old phones. It's the Android that's "unupgradeable", sure.
Perhaps the Android phones are just too smart for you? Don't feel bad, some people can only handle simple things, and complicated things make them feel stupid. It's much safer to blame the device, so you don't hurt your own feelings.
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Then why bring it up? It's irrelevant in terms of marketshare. Unless you think it matters, in which case - why does it matter?
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I'm NOT an iPhone fan; I prefer Android.
Having said that, I find it odd to read things like this, when my daily work position involves walking around buildings of employees to work on workstation and server issues (that's just the start of it, but it gets the point across).
When I traverse the areas of one of the buildings and see peoples' phones, I sort of come to a logically obvious conclusion. There are 4 employees with "current-ish" iPhones. There are 6 with old iPhones (two of the six have cracked displays). 3 employees have flip-phones with pay-as-you-go card plan thingy-whatever-you-call-thems. 4 Have newer-model Android phones, and 2 have older-model ones.
Here's the catch: The areas the employees come from is a generally, um... how to word this.. not low-income areas, but people who don't know how to manage their money or have other issue that prevent them from having month-to-month stability areas.
Second catch: The 3 new iPhone users, Management, and ordered to have them by the owner (owner is management). The 4 with newer-model Androids: developers, me, and a department manager. All of us don't fall into the 'unstable or low income' categories. The last 2 with older-model Androids are not unstable, but making ends meet.
Just thought I'd throw that in. Not to mention that a phone being shipped doesn't mean that it's shipped to an owner or user. ;) Pre-holiday subliminal biasing is disgusting, but effective. Just a thought (because if I were a phone manufacturer, that's what I'd do). Gotta get those things out there to meet demand! Even though we don't know what the demand will be yet. iPhone = 1, Android = 100s of manufacturers.
In spite of having a SGS 6 and having used S2, Note 2, Iphone 6s+, I bought a new HP Elite X3 Windows Mobile device.
I'll have to check myself into the hospital.
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Please ignore the fact that you can't get iOS 10 on a 4 year old iPhone, while you can run Marshmallow, the latest fully released Android version (Nougat is only partially released atm), on 7 year old phones. It's the Android that's "unupgradeable", sure.
This might be the biggest [citation fucking really needed] I've ever posted.
Please show me which Android phone, released in 2009 (2009 + 7 = 2016, and 2016 is the current year in case you weren't sure) can run Marshmallow without hacking or running a custom ROM. Hell, please show me which Android phones (you did say phones, so please show at least two), released in 2009, can run Marshmallow WITH a hack or custom ROM. I'm serious, I want to know which underpowered single-core Android can be hacked into running Marshmallow so I can try it for myself just to see how usable it is. I'm genuinely curious.
As for Apple, sure, you can't run iOS on an iPhone 4S, but that was released in 2011 (5 years ago), which the iPhone 5, released in 2012 (4 years ago) has received the iOS 10 update WITHOUT hacks and is still very usable. You are misleading people and being disingenuous. Why? You compare apples to baseballs and somehow makes you feel Android is superior, and that's OK, but please, please don't try and mislead users into thinking that Android is the platform that will provide them with a stable, supported upgrade path more than a year or two into the future.
No 5S, no 5S => No 5C, no 5S
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What?? How does that work without an application??!? /sarcasm
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The important question that every one seems to ignore is, how many times have you been hacked?
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BYOD, we only use it for calendaring/email. They're personal devices, and I know when they switch as they have to request new devices be allowed access.
Not work issued.
No idea. I don't run an IDS on my phone. It probably helps that I'm one of only three people who run Firefox on Android, so I get a little bit of security from not being a large enough market to bother attacking and that I don't run most of the other default apps.
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Apple does not in any way, shape or form discourage apps from running on old versions.
And it's not just poor people that buy Android phones, of course. I bought a rather expensive HTC One (m7) Android phone as my first smart phone, and still enjoy using it.
And it's not just expensive phones that relatively wealthy people buy. I could buy a new top-of-the-line phone every month, if I wanted to; but I buy cheap Android phones and keep them for a few years, because I don't see any benefit in the more-expensive models.
My immediate family members and most of my friends have iPhones, but I find the damn things utterly intolerable. I won't say Apple has never made anything I liked - the Apple //e was pretty nice - but I cannot brook their "don't you worry your pretty little head how it works" design philosophy.
And Android offers me an assortment of devices with features I do want, like SD card slots, removable batteries, physical SIMs, physical keyboards, root access and a shell... Yes, there's not a single feature there that a majority of smartphone users want, as far as I can tell. But I do, and I'm not interested in buying a Veblen good from a company that thinks choice is bad for its customers.
Is it possible to integrate Adblock into Android?
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