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Ask Slashdot: What's the Best Way to Browse the Web Anonymously?

An anonymous reader asks: In an age of evercookies, zombie cookies, and always expanding efforts to track browsers, devices, and people -- is there any way to browse totally anonymous to the sites you are visiting?
With so many technologies quietly monitoring your activity, "How can a user today browse with confidence that they can't be tracked or identified, avoiding even being identified anonymously as a returning user or device?" Leave your best answers in the comments. What's the best way to browse the web anonymously?

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  1. use someone else's computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    or don't surf at all

    1. Re:use someone else's computer by Humbubba · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wonder if Anthony Weiner would let me use his computer if I login as "Fancy Bear"? Better ask James Comey to clear it with Julian Assange first. (I'd down-vote this myself if I could.)

    2. Re:use someone else's computer by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 1

      Your mom’s computer.

    3. Re:use someone else's computer by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      or don't surf at all

      Or need to download a very large file - the library fits that bill.

    4. Re:use someone else's computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      suprised no ones mentioned RFC: 1149 yet.

    5. Re:use someone else's computer by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      Buy an AWS Linux VPS with a prepaid debit card.

      Set up OpenVPN

      Create a Linux VM on your PC.

      Connect the VM to the VPS with OpenVPN and route all traffic through it.

      Browse without flash and wipe the cookies every session. Reboot the AWS VPS regularly so you get a different public IP address.

      Don't use the anonymized browsing VM to access any web site that's tied to you in some other way, such as your bank account or gmail account. Use your existing web browsing process to reach those servers.

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    6. Re: use someone else's computer by amias · · Score: 1

      No way man , those pigeons are working for the man

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    7. Re:use someone else's computer by KingBenny · · Score: 1

      i suppose a virtual machine through a vpn might help a little if you generate a different id or mac every time unless the zombies are like really breaking out of the box
      i suppose onion is for terrerizts only so that will probably get you tracked by people investigating non existent cults
      life is full of important choices

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  2. Oblg... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The only winning move is not to play."

  3. It's lost. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The Internet is a piece of shit. Burn it to the ground, and humanity as well.

    1. Re:It's lost. by fisted · · Score: 2

      The web is. The Internet is fine.

    2. Re:It's lost. by hughbar · · Score: 1

      Agree, abandon port 80 (already done to some extent), abandon 443 and build something more most that doesn't 'contain' Facebook, Google and all the other large commercial players. OK, that's a bit of a pipe dream, but it's good to dream.

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    3. Re:It's lost. by hughbar · · Score: 1

      Yes, for example, Fidonet, something else that's relatively unpolluted but (maybe) a little steampunk.

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  4. Serious Answer by Notabadguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Depending on your level of paranoia...

    Surf the web with the TOR browser through an anonymizer (IP Scrambler) through VPN on a device that you purchased with cash on someone else's wireless network.

    Pick and choose to suit your level of paranoia.

    1. Re:Serious Answer by Notabadguy · · Score: 2

      I should have also noted that any passwords, usernames, etc you create should have nothing in common with anything you use now.

    2. Re:Serious Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Surf the web with the TOR browser through an anonymizer (IP Scrambler) through VPN on a device that you purchased with cash on someone else's wireless network.

      These are necessary, but not sufficient.

      Not using cookies and javascript, flash, etc. These all can de-anonymize you. Hell even stupid things in javascript like the query for battery state can by themselves uniquely track you even if nothing else is given away by running scripts (which will not be the case; fonts available etc. all help to uniquely identify you).

      Even if you are careful, and force dns to go through TOR or your vpn, you still have information leaking bugs like, https://blog.torproject.org/bl... And, things like bittorrent will de-anonymize you (it hands your IP out to peers), if they go over the same circuit as you are web browsing. Tons of other information leaking apps.

      Tor now supports unix domain sockets instead of TCP, you can make a container/vm for your browser with this socket mounted (bind mount / plan9fs if vm), and use something like socat to mediate to allow your browser to work with a unix socket. If there is no network besides localhost in another namespace/isolated vm/jail, then even bugs like above will not leak info. Destroy everything to do with the browser profile every time you restart this container/vm. Even the localhost network will be unnecessary, eventually (tor browser has a wishlist item to use unix socket and not need a tcp stack at all).

      Your browser may still give you away as a unique identity. See, https://panopticlick.eff.org/

      If you log into *anything*, or visit local sites like cityname.craigslist.org, you have given up information on yourself.

      If you use tor, *assume* that the exit node is spying on all your clear text communication.

      In short, you really need to work hard to be _sort of_ anonymous, but you will not ever be fully anonymous.

    3. Re: Serious Answer by thundercattt · · Score: 1

      Or you can have a virtual machine using different mac address also (encrypted)Delete the VM when you're done.

    4. Re:Serious Answer by mlts · · Score: 1

      I would say pretty much the same thing. Depending on threat, use a VPN, an offshore VPN, or TOR.

      Worries about access is fairly easy to deal with evercookies. Have a VM and use vagrant to kick it up, provision it with a web browser, ad blocking extensions and such. When done with that session, do a vagrant destroy.

    5. Re:Serious Answer by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      I prefer the Estwing sure strike 3lb sledge against a poured concrete base myself - very effective at cracking memory chips in half.

    6. Re:Serious Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bonus points for using an Estwing. The choice of rockhounds everywhere.

    7. Re:Serious Answer by Threni · · Score: 2

      Also, don't log into sites unless you have to. You can read Slashdot, Hackernews etc without logging in. You can't vote/comment this way, but you can always create an account via tor if that's important, but of course that's an extra level of tedium and a lot of sites confront you with cloudflare-style captchas which are impossible to solve without javascript.

    8. Re:Serious Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Depending on your level of paranoia...

      Surf the web with the TOR browser through an anonymizer (IP Scrambler) through VPN on a device that you purchased with cash on someone else's wireless network.

      Pick and choose to suit your level of paranoia.

      The problem with that advise is it is all great until someone is actually actively looking for you. when they are actually looking you then your behaviour here is actually like a huge beacon saying "here look at me, perhaps I am the person you are looking for". Best advise is behave like a normal person on your own machines, no Tor, no VPN or anonymisers that might suggest you are someone of interest. Then if you need to do something that you don't want traced, go use a public PC or wireless in a place like a library and when there dress and behave normally like everyone else, no hoodies or dark glasses or anything else that makes you memorable or identifiable.

    9. Re:Serious Answer by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      I prefer a cement kiln - anything entering it would definitely be scrambled.

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    10. Re:Serious Answer by HornWumpus · · Score: 1
      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    11. Re:Serious Answer by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      That looks great for tearing apart buildings or furniture. I doubt it has the kinetic energy of a 3 lb or 5 lb sledge. Maybe if you hit point first, like a spear instead of using it like a hammer.

    12. Re:Serious Answer by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      It's about 2 pounds. It doesn't replace the 5 lb mini sledge any more than the 5lb replaces the 20lb.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  5. Don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Get off the computer, go outside.

  6. Here are some ways... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Run your own DNS server (pihole is great) - point every device, router, etc you have at it - check with ipleak.net
    On said DNS server make sure you use DNSSEC and only use servers that don't log and are DNSSEC enabled.
    Run your own mail server (mail-in-a-box) - use let's encrypt on everything you can.
    Use DNSOverride app for iPhone (A gem!) so your cellular doesn't get sucked up by ads and trackers
    Root your android, run a custom rom - and use http://opengapps.org/ so you don't have to use all of Google.
    Use Signal App for messaging on iPhone
    Use Sudo App for iPhone to use temporary identities - it's free and awesome. Get free sms, phone number, email address, all in one click!
    Running your own DNS server will protect you from most internet garbage.
    Use lots of Sudo Identities with different emails to protect from password leaks. The more random your email is the less likely someone can correlate usernames of previously hacked accounts,

    1. Re:Here are some ways... by ruir · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, it is DNSCRYPT that you want in your DNS resolver.

    2. Re:Here are some ways... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Make sure to add facebook.com, microsoft.com, google.com, etc to your blocklist on PiHole. You don't need to talk to big brother....do you?

    3. Re:Here are some ways... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Running your own DNS server will protect you from most internet garbage.

      Why is this? DNS just resolves IPs, do ISP DNS get hacked and redirected all the time?

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    4. Re:Here are some ways... by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

      Running your own DNS server will protect you from most internet garbage.

      Why is this? DNS just resolves IPs, do ISP DNS get hacked and redirected all the time?

      While that could happen, I think it's more of an issue of it being possible for your DNS provider to log all queries, and then have the ability to filter on IP address o get a list of every website (or other named service) you've visited .

      Yaz

    5. Re:Here are some ways... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Somebody forgot to mention: Use a clean Linux OS - Windows 10 can't be good for your data privacy. Maybe too obvious for this crowd, but it still has to be said.

    6. Re:Here are some ways... by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      On said DNS server make sure you use DNSSEC and only use servers that don't log and are DNSSEC enabled.

      This might help (in terms of reducing MITM attacks) if DNSSEC was widely implemented. It's not. Most DNS registrars I've dealt with don't even support it. And it's sufficiently obscure that very few customers of the registrars that do have it implemented. If you limit yourself to DNSSEC domains, you're going to cut out most of the Internet.

      In terms of finding servers that "don't log", I think that's easier to say than done. Unless you're personally familiar with the server, you don't have a chance. And with DNS not being encrypted, it's relatively easy for several groups not entirely under your control to intercept DNS queries anyway.

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    7. Re: Here are some ways... by Plus1Entropy · · Score: 1

      Actually almost everybody here is talking bullshit too trying to sound smarter than everybody else.

      First time on /. I take it?

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    8. Re: Here are some ways... by cjjjer · · Score: 1

      First time on /. I take it?

      You seem more like a first timer than the parent does... Just saying...

    9. Re:Here are some ways... by kaizendojo · · Score: 1
      Very succinct and informative. I think the OP meant to say Pseudo instead of Sudo though:
      • Pseudo - false or fake
      • Sudo - A command in linux that allows for elevated privileges

      Just to avoid confusion. Otherwise, great post.

  7. use tails by MSG · · Score: 4, Informative

    Burn Tails to a USB drive. Boot that for anonymous access.

    https://tails.boum.org/

    1. Re:use tails by infolation · · Score: 1

      Burn Tails to a USB drive. Boot that for anonymous access.

      Using a laptop with Libreboot instead of a BIOS with Intel ME etc.

      Issues like the lighteater attack mean that Tails can be vulnerable when run on a computer that has the Intel Management Engine.

      Also, log on to public wifi and use Tails to randomly assign the MAC address. Tails will generate plausible MAC addresses.

  8. Cash is king... by Timothy2.0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Purchase everything you connect with in cash (if you don't think a MAC address can't be linked to a specific model and the credit card used to buy it, think again). Never connect to a network you pay for. Use free WiFi wherever you go. Build a cantenna and pick off any insecure networks around you. Create a wireless backup close to home but hidden off the property for anything you need to store. If you can, run your browser under an OS in a virtual machine run off a ramdisk.

    1. Re:Cash is king... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Purchase everything you connect with in cash (if you don't think a MAC address can't be linked to a specific model and the credit card used to buy it, think again). Never connect to a network you pay for. Use free WiFi wherever you go. Build a cantenna and pick off any insecure networks around you. Create a wireless backup close to home but hidden off the property for anything you need to store. If you can, run your browser under an OS in a virtual machine run off a ramdisk.

      Move to Idaho and drop out of modern life might help as well.

      We always end up going to this place.

      Some other issues where you can be tracked, and almost as well as the internet.

      Buying anything anywhere on a credit card is bad. My gas card can generalize my whereabouts every time I use it. As can every other purchase. But don't use cash, as it can arouse suspicion. Barter only.

      Don't use a cell phone at all, ever. The entire concept of cell phones means that you are logged within about a 3/4 mile area. If you are going to use a cell phone, have a metal box to keep it in even when turned off.

      Raise your own food, and do not have a job. Social security and taxes informs the guvmint about your whereabouts. Working under the talbel might work but is risky if the person you are working for gets busted, it reveals you to the guvmint.

      If a person is that concerned about the guvmint not knowing anything about them, they need to drop out of modern society completely.

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    2. Re:Cash is king... by BitterOak · · Score: 2

      Cash doesn't give you quite as much anonymity as you might expect. There was a famous case of an art thief who paid cash for a cell phone and was caught. The cell phone was used to make ransom demands, but the police were able to determine the serial number of the phone and trace it back to the store where it was purchased. In-store security cameras showed the thief buying the phone (with cash). With those surveillance photos, they were able to catch the thief. (He turned himself in after he was identified in the photo by friends.)

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    3. Re:Cash is king... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Spoof your MACs.

    4. Re:Cash is king... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to launder that cash or the serial numbers CAN be traced back to you. Why do you think people who commit crime own laundry marts and other high cash turnover operations? Just to give legit sourcing for their capital.... nope, also to remove trace-ability of those dollars. All banks can not only count money automatically, but track serial numbers too.

      Also connect via different methodologies AND systems/operating and hardware wise. If you use the same setup EVERY time, you'll be profiled.

      Oh, mr/mrs tails on a linux laptop bought at a garage sale and bounced off a unencoded wifi signal through a VPN(supposed to protect your data/but it IS a definable gateway) with encryption(again, all it takes is an ad server/man in the middle to break into your encryption), look where your internet connection routes the next time you google something or visit your favorite cat website.

      Why do you think we have several square miles of data-centers/webserver farms in the middle of nowhere BEYOND our current/future needs.

      Baaa.

    5. Re:Cash is king... by Timothy2.0 · · Score: 1

      That's not so much that cash isn't anonymous, but that the store was under surveillance.

      However, the link between cash and purchases is important. Given that government/law enforcement could likely scrape the transactions of its people, looking for relationships between cash withdrawals and comparable "anonymous" purchases wouldn't be a far stretch (for example, your account shows you withdrawing $2000 from your account, but a computer store within radius X shows a cash sale for $1500 plus taxes wouldn't be enough to convict, but might be enough to send an officer to the store to look for surveillance footage).

    6. Re:Cash is king... by swillden · · Score: 1

      if you don't think a MAC address can't be linked to a specific model and the credit card used to buy it, think again

      MAC addresses are visible only to the router you're connected to. They're not used by the IP protocol, but only by the underlying transport protocol, which is used only for the first hop. So, no, MAC addresses can't be used to identify you unless (a) the entity trying to spy on you is on the local network you're connected to, (b) some application-level protocol you use decides to send your MAC address, or (c) you're using IPv6 and your network stack decides to use your MAC address as the lower 48 bits of your IP address (which very early IPv6 stacks did, until it was pointed out that it's very bad for privacy).

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    7. Re:Cash is king... by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      That's not so much that cash isn't anonymous, but that the store was under surveillance.

      That's the thing, though- for at least the last ten years every store I've been in has had surveillance cams, every one of them. Mini mart, big box store, whatever- they all have cameras these days. So if they can determine where the phone was sold (which is apparently not that difficult to do) then it's just a matter of going there and pulling the video.

      Maybe one way to get around this is to buy a phone and let it sit in a drawer for a year before using it. Hopefully any video of the sale is probably gone by then...but who knows?

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  9. with binoculars by facebuster23 · · Score: 1

    through your neighbor's window.

  10. Linux Live by darkain · · Score: 1

    Use a Linux Live distro which automatically connects through Tor. Don't want to build it yourself? No worries, it is already done for you! https://tails.boum.org/

  11. Whonix on Qubes OS by Burz · · Score: 3, Informative

    https://www.whonix.org/

    TAILS tries to provide anonymity within the context of kernel-based security, but browser and privilege exploits are quite plentiful and such malware can go on to reprogram your firmware and peripherals. Qubes provides better protection of the core system, and Whonix ensures that Tor is utilized in a way that's optimum for anonymity.

    1. Re:Whonix on Qubes OS by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I run Tor on Whonix through Tails. If you don't do this, I think you're an idiot, because the NSA and FBI are spying on you.

      And when you use Tor, you become very interesting.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    2. Re:Whonix on Qubes OS by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      And when you use Tor, you become very interesting.

      Which is why anyone who is serious about using Tor can/should use commercial VPNs with in ProxyVMs Qubes to shield oneself. (Or you could do this in iptables in a single arbitrary distro probably... but that's insanity.)

      There are two different ways you could do this: a VPN to connect to Tor gateway (so your "real" ISP doesn't see you), or a VPN to connect to post-exit node (because Tor exit nodes are inherently suspect.) I don't see why you couldn't do both, though obviously your risk of performance issues goes up the more extra steps you create.

      Tor is definitely a lightning rod for all kinds of nastiness from many different sorts of unpleasant actors. For the ultra-paranoid, it certainly has its uses but it should never be thought of as an easy or lazy option.

  12. As a sleeper spy says: Act "normal" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you act as a "normal user" of your ethnicity, religion, etc., this is the best way to remain "anonymous".
    You don't use an anonymizer, anonymous browsing function, etc. because most people don't use them.

    Then, when you really need to be "anonymous", you go to a public library or any commercial place that lets you browse the web without registering your ID.
    You go there dressed like everyone else or bit cleaner, being nice but not annoying and do what you need to do and leave.

    Socially being anonymous is always better than using any technology to remain anonymous because people who are trying to track you are looking for "oddness", not "normalness".

    1. Re:As a sleeper spy says: Act "normal" by methano · · Score: 1

      I think it's call "Security by Obscurity".

    2. Re:As a sleeper spy says: Act "normal" by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      At the same time, try to work towards the normalization of good security practices.

      For example, it used to be suspicious for people to use encrypted connections. These days, that has been normalized, resulting in a double benefit: not only can you use encryption without sticking out, it also greatly increases the difficulty of widespread surveillance in general because crooks and spies now have to decrypt lots of cat videos.

      That's why pushing for widespread adoption of onion routers, alternative currencies, Linux, and many other things is good for security and privacy in general: for most people that level of privacy and security is overkill most of the time, but widespread usage means that when people need it, they can use it and they can use it without arousing suspicion.

    3. Re:As a sleeper spy says: Act "normal" by tflf · · Score: 1

      Unless you decide to "opt out" of modern life, stop all social interactions, avoid coming into contact with anything using electricity or fossil fuels and go live in an isolated cave, cut off from all human contact, you will be tracked. Property taxes, rental payments, pay cheques, utility bills, grocery shopping, warranty, etc. (basically pretty much everything you buy or pay when living even a semi-normal life) leaves an electronic footprint. Security by obscurity is not perfect, but, when the vast majority of society is on-line, not having a known internet presence to match to the other data already in the system means you stand out from the herd. In the age of data mining and crunching, anomalies are investigatory triggers.

    4. Re:As a sleeper spy says: Act "normal" by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Do not confuse "looking normal" (hiding the fact that you're hiding anything, from your ISP's point of view) with protecting yourself from tracking by remote services and websites. The questioner appeared to be concerned only with the latter, so the suggestions to use a stateless system (Qubes' DispVM, or a live distro like TAILS) seem a lot more relevant than trying really hard to look normal to the guys in the black van.

  13. Anonimity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Want to be anonymous on the web? Don't do anything that attracts any particular attention to you.

    Chances are, you are painfully insignificant, so nobody is tracking or spying on you, other than through "lazy" mechanisms, i.e., cookies and logging. This is the digital equivalent of paying someone to write down a physical description of every person that entered the mall.

    This form of tracking is rather benign, in a tumor sort of way. You can avoid most of it by not using Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc, and by blocking known ad and tracking domains. For all intents and purposes, you don't exist to them, hence, anonymity.

    However, using tor, proxies, vpns and asking around "how to be anonymous" is a great way to pin a big bullseye on your forehead. Your traffic may be encrypted, but "they" will know that you are hiding something by virtue of what your are connecting to. Remember, your IP address is public, and between you and the VPN provider, there are dozens of places where your traffic can be monitored.

    A high number of "this IP address connected to a known tor entry point" should be enough to pique "their" interest.

    Best course of action is to hide in plain sight and keep your nose clean.

    1. Re:Anonimity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apparently you missed the memo where EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT CAN BE TRACKED, IS TRACKED, AND THAT DATA CAN AND IS USED IN THEIR FUTURE ENDEAVORS, even for seemingly innocuous and "normal" things.

      Being "normal" is the thing that gets you tracked. You have to work hard to not be tracked or be tracked as little as possible.

  14. Qubes OS + VPN by Shane_Optima · · Score: 5, Informative

    Install Qubes OS on a spare SSD, preferably on a computer that supports vt-d properly (older business class notebooks can be really good here if you're on a budget.) Choose KDE or XFCE for your DE, and decide whether you want to use Debian or Fedora for your templates[1]. Configure your DispVM to use a ProxyVM for connectivity using commercial VPN, paid for using bitcoin/giftcards/prepaid credit cards if you're feeling paranoid. (This will be something like $3 / month, depending on who you're buying with.) Make sure you configure the ProxyVM to fail-hard if you lose your connection to the VPN, as opposed to connecting over clearnet in the event of a VPN failure.

    (Optional: use a Tor ProxyVM instead of a commercial VPN ProxyVM. Qubes does ship with Tor and Whonix VMs for this very purpose but this is tricky business... Tor exit nodes are definitely not to be trusted. If you did this, I would advise using a VPN layer in addition to Tor in order to protect yourself from the exit node... just make sure the VPN hop is coming AFTER Tor, not before. Also, expect plenty of transient performance hits.)

    Next, customize your DispVM's browser to include extensions such as uBlock Origins[2], self-destructing cookies[3], and a user agent randomizer (which you should configure to only change to the more popular browsers currently in use.)

    The result of all of this? Your DispVM is a stateless VM; all data is lost every time it's shut down (Joanna currently has it set to auto-shut down every time you close the browser, which I find annoying as hell but I guess it's handy for a lot of people.) Your browser extensions will help guard against tracking in-between DispVM restarts. And by configuring it to use the ProxyVM, you'll never using your real IP address (and ideally you should alter your exit point from the VPN as well.) Unlike most VPN setups, a bug or exploit in the browser or in anything else in the DispVM's operating system will not leak data over the un-VPNed internet.

    None of what I just said is trivial to set up, but guides are available and this setup would be extremely robust and easy to use (once configured.) The core of the Qubes UI/UX is in fact quite user-friendly, with an emphasis on GUI tools. It's also a pretty nifty hypervisor even if you don't give a toss about the increased security. It's damn fast, easily portable between different physical machines, templates are handy as hell, and all of your windows from all of your VMs (including your Windows 7 VMs) can appear in a single desktop with a single taskbar, alt-tab menu, etc. (KDE or XFCE; your choice.)


    1. You could also built your own template using some other distro (like Ubuntu) if you really wanted. Templates allow you to have multiple VMs with different personal files but with the same apps and configuration (installing anything to the template instantly installs it on all VMs based on that Template.) Also, they're stupid fast.

    2. This is basically Adblock Plus done right, with a dash of Request Policy and Noscript tossed in for good measure. You can easily toggle between blacklisting and whitelisting philosophies; it's awesome. (Note that uMatrix is available from the same author for people who want even more fine-grained control.) Note your whitelists / blacklists will be lost every time you shut down your DispVM, so if you've done a lot of tinkering be sure to export them and send them to another stateful VM to merge back into the DispVM image eventually. (This can be done with a simple right-click in a file browser.)

    3. Not the best general purpose cookie manager but it's the easiest to use, particularly in a DispVM setup

    1. Re:Qubes OS + VPN by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Commercial VPN still has the problem of your traffic being very *interesting*, and your patterns showing in the drawer of *interesting* sflow logs (though most are just pirates, there are plenty of fools too).

      Getting untainted exit is nominally difficult. Depending on your insight into tier1 taps, you might be better off with chaining tor to vpngate which mostly goes through consumer broadband.

      I view the exit node as being the primary potential (likely?) bad actor to worry about, but of course if we're concerned first and foremost about how things look from your ("real") ISP's point of view, there's almost no way to look normal. As a dozen people here have said already: if that's your big worry, get a cantenna, change your MAC and find a hotspot to use that isn't in your name. Anything short of that is probably going to fail. (As you imply, there is a TON of three letter agency interest in both VPNs and Tor.)

      However, the original ask slashdot question seemed more worried about surveillance on the end of the websites and remote services, which is much more manageable (and a bit less suspicious/conflicted/worrying) issue than trying to not only hide everything from your own ISP, but also to hide the fact that you're hiding anything from your own ISP.

      It's a bit like the difference between some random anonymous person asking how smoke bombs are made and some random anonymous person asking how actual bombs are made. Just because I'm strongly pro-freedom of information doesn't mean that I would be completely incurious about the person's motivations, in that latter case...

    2. Re:Qubes OS + VPN by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Also, do you really need an "untainted" exit if your entry is rock solid (cantenna, etc.) ? Seems like a fairly niche need, that.

      Regardless (mainly because this is an interesting problem to consider), the best possible exit plan for the super paranoid would probably just be buying your own cloud servers with anon funds and essentially creating your own VPN (mixing in Tor, commercial VPNs or whatever else suits your fancy as desired.)

      Or would that just make you look even more suspicious? That's the double-edge of any clever scheme you come up with; if "the adversary" is omniscient enough, cleverness might stick out like a sore thumb.

    3. Re:Qubes OS + VPN by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Quick note: there are obviously more details to worry about, and I did gloss over some steps there... but it's not a terribly arduous process.

      You don't need to be a command line wizard; you don't need to understand the full intricacies of iptables (although honestly this won't hurt.) But mainly, you just need to understand how things work at a 30,000 foot level. I'd say it's a "power user" distro much more than it's an "expert" distro.

    4. Re:Qubes OS + VPN by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      It seems to me that leaves pre-paid credit cards, but the places that sell them also seem to have a lot of cameras and I'm not sure how many VPS providers would accept them.

      From my understanding, they appear (from the vendor's point of view) to be indistinguishable from regular credit cards. The DEA and plenty of three-letter organizations aren't happy about their existence though, and there's definitely going to be a push at some point to require ID every time you want to load money.

      With "cameras" we're back into that slightly awkward point of the conversation where one must pause and say "...and what, pray tell, are you up to again that this is actually going to matter?" Not that there aren't legitimately righteous people persecuted in this country (as in all countries), but when we reach this level of paranoia we have to consider the strong possibility that the majority of people who would need to legitimately worry about cameras (i.e. not merely people being extra-paranoid for fun) are engaged in some serious organized crime, if not actual terrorism.

      But, well... cameras obviously have significant limitations. You don't have to be a geek to figure that one out.

    5. Re:Qubes OS + VPN by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Well of course if your adversary model isn't a state actor like this, it's probably not worth bothering with hardened xen vm and Tor to begin with - especially if you're going to ruin it with PIA at the exit point.

      I disagree that Qubes (the "hardened Xen VM") isn't worth the bother. Regardless of your security concerns, if you ever find yourself using VMs heavily Qubes is a great option that requires very little effort relative to the power it offers. (It's not good for 3d gaming at the moment; that's the biggest indictment I have of it right now.)

      I'm also not convinced PIA (or another VPN) post- exit point "ruins" Tor usage, if you've taken proper precautions in the purchase and setup. None of these comparisons are open and shut cases, I'll grant you that, but with Qubes it should be easy to set up and quite robust if you know what you're doing (...I assume you'd just chain together two ProxyVMs, one Tor and one commercial VPN, both with fail-hard configs, and call it a day?)

      Just use the VPN naked like the average pirate (anonymity set!), or even just umatrix (almost undetectable unless actively probed for).

      For existing Linux users (i.e. fairly savvy power users, but not necessarily experts), Qubes isn't that much extra effort and it lets you use VPNs *properly* and in a fine-grained manner (so you can have all of the "normal" traffic you wish.) VPNs on Qubes are certainly a hell of a lot easier to properly use than uMatrix, which I wouldn't recommend to anyone who wasn't already enamored with the uBlock Origins way of doing things and wanting more. (And they're also obviously a half-measure that's mainly/only just going to protect you from advertising network tracking.)

    6. Re:Qubes OS + VPN by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Basically, yes. There are a lot of effective ways to 'bootstrap' such a scheme. The most effective privacy-protecting method is one that even a non-geek could fully understand and utilize: new OS install (more broadly speaking, a machine that's never been used for regular personal use), cantenna, then a road trip to find a hotspot in a busy area that's located a good distance away from one's normal hangouts.

      A geek can enhance that setup using Tor or VPNs or MAC address spoofing, but those things are basically just icing.

  15. Nah. Just use a burner laptop. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

    use someone else's computer ... or don't surf at all

    Nah. Just use a burner laptop.

    That you bought with cash.

    At a suppler that doesn't have security cameras.

    And walk to your car parked beyond traffic cam range.

    Then use open WiFi - again while parked outside a free-WiFi providing business where you can approach and leave without driving near traffic cams.

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    1. Re: Nah. Just use a burner laptop. by unami · · Score: 1

      don't forget to set up a clean VM so surf the web with every time. and change the way and style you write things (your writing characteristics can give you away). don't use obscure soft- or hardware that makes it easy to single you out. the more people use it, the better.

  16. Also:

    Pull the battery before driving away and insert it just before using it. (Don't have it powered when driving past a webcam.)

    And NEVER use it with any user I.D. associated with you (or put any identifying info on it, to be grabbed by malware.)

    Nothing to it! B-)

    (Or follow the original poster's advice.)

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  17. Privacy Browser available on Android and Chrome OS by sorenstoutner · · Score: 1

    I am developing a browser for Android and Chrome OS called Privacy Browser that is designed to provide as much anonymity as possible. For example, JavaScript, cookies, and DOM storage are disabled by default, which mitigates many of the tracking techniques used by websites. It also integrates with Orbot (Android's official Tor client). https://f-droid.org/repository... https://www.stoutner.com/priva...

  18. Re:Easy-peasy by hambone142 · · Score: 1

    KUse a public library PC.

  19. Re:Serious Answer ][ by VValdo · · Score: 1

    Tor Browser is a good start.

    So is Tails.

    Finally, try to keep your facebooking to under 15 minutes.

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  20. Have web pages emailed to you... by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1, Funny

    bill@clintonemail.com

    1. Re:Have web pages emailed to you... by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Doesn't RMS do something along those lines - have web pages emailed to him?

  21. Re:Best way? by MouseR · · Score: 1

    Perhaps but Samsungs do pull the old This message will self destruct in 5 seconds IMF trick.

  22. Re:Nah. Just use a burner laptop. by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    Or, you know, incognito mode via a prepaid cell phone that you bought cash... that should be good enough for most people.

    If you're ultra paranoid, you could set up a relay with two more cell phones so that the websites you are visiting trace back to the relay's cell tower instead of your physical location, but that seems like more trouble that could possibly be justified - unless you're doing something illegal.

  23. Re:Anonymity and web don't go in the same sentence by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

    Using TOR is painting a target on your forehead - it will even play poorly in the jury trial when they describe it.

  24. Only browse via Wireshark. by shess · · Score: 2

    You'll probably need to hangout in high-traffic areas, like airports.

    1. Re:Only browse via Wireshark. by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Or Driftnet, if you're feeling particularly lazy.

  25. Browse but don't browse! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    is there any way to browse totally anonymous to the sites you are visiting?

    there is actually a very simple way to do this, don't visit the site! however, to see the content of the site without visiting it, just plug the address into archive.org and you can see a snapshot of the page at certain dates. to ensure that a sneaky javascript isn't phoning home, use "noscript" or just use a browser without javascript execution capabilities.

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  26. You can't by iamacat · · Score: 1

    Web pages are arbitrary software and can fingerprint you by your keystroke cadence, patterns of mouse movements and vocabulary choices. This, combined with detailed profile of your hardware and software, can be later matched when you enter your credit card on Amazon.

    You can make big brother's life a bit more difficult by getting a second laptop, booting it from a live USB distro that never saves anything to disk and using it some distance away from home on a public WiFi hotspot. But make sure you dedicate it to just your secret web browsing and never use the same hardware to read slashdot.

  27. Re:Nah. Just use a burner laptop. by lxs · · Score: 5, Informative
  28. What will work and will fail by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Onion routing is owned by the US by federal police level at a per case budget. Your ip will be tracked federally as a given just for using such services.
    VPN can be tracked at a clandestine service level with no extra effort under collect it all.
    Your MAC or any other unique computer number or browser details can be requested or stored.
    So find a new computer, paid for with cash, wait a few months for any CCTV to clear.
    When using this clean computer never do any of the things done on your normal account and never at the same time or in the same area or the same tools, OS, software..
    Different OS, short bust encrypted messages only, become a numbers station.
    Anything with text gives patterns, linguistics.
    For an average user a VPN with router support and shut out on connect fail is good. Every connection is then via a router. Anything done to the OS should be under that VPN ip.
    VPN payment is the tracking option for a federal case.
    The problem with browsing is so much data is requested, collected and patterns build up.
    Most people then fall back into habits and visit that one old site again, or post in a very unique style.

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  29. Who needs a computer by techdolphin · · Score: 1

    1. Go to library.

    2. Find a book on the subject.

    3. Read at the library.

    4. Afterwards go to bar and have a drink that pay for with cash (optional).

  30. Botnet by John.Banister · · Score: 1

    Use a botnet to get others to do your browsing for you. Include lots of noise in the botnet's behavior so that it's difficult to tell what among the information it retrieves is the information you want. Make the botnet appear to be a failure at accomplishing some different goal, so that the people who investigate botnets pass over investigating yours in favor of investigating one of the ones that appears to be doing something successfully.

    Alternatively, use mind control to get a billionaire to put a network of free tor nodes in low earth orbit. You'll be harder to pinpoint if the size of the "parking lot" where you pick up the free wifi is a couple hundred km across.

  31. Easy peasy, 100% secure by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    I just call the server admin from a burner phone and ask him what's on the screen.

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  32. Re:Privacy Browser available on Android and Chrome by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Why just Android? Are you going to do a PC version?

  33. Re:Nah. Just use a burner laptop. by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does a Samsung Galaxy 7 count as a "burner laptop" ?

  34. Re:Always use Privacy Mode by unixisc · · Score: 1

    That's what I was wondering - why did none of the responses above suggest this?

  35. Move to tall building beside another - binoculars by Kekke · · Score: 1

    You might not have all the pages online at any given time, but it shure is safe.
    Remember to use do not track curtains.
    This will keep your surfing absolutely anonymous.

    For deepweb I suggest a telescope

  36. Re:Nah. Just use a burner laptop. by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 1

    S 7 or NOTE 7?

  37. Re: Nah. Just use a burner laptop. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Only the models with thermite batteries.

  38. The best answer isn't more anonymity. by dweller_below · · Score: 1
    Well, daaang.

    Last night, my computer and Slashdot combined to throw away a 4 hour description on how to maintain anonymity when under omnipresent surveillance. That was frustrating. But, after a night's sleep and some reflection, I think it was for the best. The required skills and commitment are almost superhuman. Today, US citizens can expect little privacy in their purchases, travel, interpersonal communication or internet activity. We need better answers that will help everybody. If we train ourselves to defeat the current generation of surveillance and discovery, we will be faced with even more intrusive measures. We need to change the game in fundamental ways.

    The initial problem seems to be that we don't trust each other or government. The cause of that distrust seems to be that we all keep secrets from each other. But, when you look at the cause of the secrets, you find that we have created incentives for secrecy and distrust. In our current laws and culture we benefit from keeping secrets from each other and from the government. Our government benefits from keeping secrets from us. We all have created an economy of discovering and exploiting each other's secrets. Thus, we have created incentives that motivate secrecy, deceit, surveillance, and betrayal. This is not a good way to live.

    It seems like we aren't valuing privacy enough. But, I think it is just the opposite. We value privacy enough spend resources to penetrate, subvert, and deny it. The answer isn't to increase the value of anonymity. That will just increase the incentive to destroy privacy. We somehow need to regain privacy and anonymity by devaluing the secrets. We also need to increase the value of trust, while we increase the cost of betrayed trust.

    I can see how to accomplish this at the local level. If I am more open, honest and involved with my friends, family and community, then we increase in trust towards each other and know each other's secrets. At that point, our secrets have no value and there is everything to lose and nothing to gain from surveillance, deceit, or betrayal.

    I've got no idea how the fix my broken relationship with the highest levels of government.

    Local government is small and well behaved. I know them and they know me. We have no meaningful secrets. We have years of mutual support and trust.

    I have no problem with telling my next door neighbor, the-city-councilman all the details of my life. We have lived next to each other for almost 4 decades. We have raised each other's children. I know several good policemen and women. I know a good FBI agent. But, somewhere at the top, it all goes sour.

    The Feds seem to get great benefit from lying to me, and betraying my trust. I don't know how to make it stop. The CPI (Consumer Price Index) is a bad, blatant lie. I can't imagine why they feel they need to lie about things that are intimate knowledge to every American. It's embarrassing. And the lie damages almost every American. The published employment rates don't pass any kind of simple fact checking. We all nodded along for decades while the Feds inflated the dangers of marijuana. And, now that it is all revealed as an colossal fabrication, they refuse to admit error or correct the damage. All for no obvious reason. The Feds can't admit mistake. The Feds can't correct mistake. And, it appears that they can't tell fact from wild delusion. With that history, I can't stand the idea of giving them more power over me.

    And the Feds keep trying to pass their bad habits to my state and local governments.

  39. Re:Privacy Browser available on Android and Chrome by sorenstoutner · · Score: 1

    Once the features are fully fleshed out on Android, the goal is to develop a version for iOS, macOS, Windows, and Linux (probably based on the KDE framework). But right now it is only available for Android and Chrome OS.

  40. The Hardest Part ... by gordguide · · Score: 1

    The Hardest Part isn't the routing or means of connection, it's the OS and Browser itself you choose to use.

    What you need to do, is find an OS and a Browser you can use *with the default settings unchanged*. Making Configuration or Preference adjustment paints you with an identifiable combination of unique settings visible to the web itself as you surf.

  41. A half measure isn't useless by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

    I think this can quickly go defeatist if you try to be completely watertight.

    Trying only to maintain some privacy enough to get cheaper flight tickets, less spam and less echo chamber circle jerking might be more reasonable than trying to beat the NSA.

    I really think there ought to be a turn-key solution with all of the low impact stuff already enabled.

    For example:
    - cookies and cross site data (i.e. tracking pixels) to be permitted cross site only if approved... but always approved if on the same domain. Wipe pixels periodically
    - cycle VPN access reliably and always within the same country
    - locally run DNSCRYPT

    The hassle in privacy IMHO is that the tech is too varied in what it can do. The usability isn't there. i.e Noscript is useful but it's hassle to use. The thing is, it should be hassle to use in a very secure way, but there should be more moderate ways to use it which is less work.