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FBI: Review of New Emails Doesn't Change Conclusion on Clinton (cnn.com)
FBI director James Comey told Congress Sunday that the new scrutiny of emails related to Hillary Clinton has turned up nothing that would cause the bureau to recommend charges against her. The conclusion comes nine days after rocking the presidential race with word that a new trove of emails had been discovered. "During that process, we have reviewed all of the communications that were to or from Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of State," Comey wrote. "Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton." From a report on CNN:"We were always confident nothing would cause the July decision to be revisited. Now Director Comey has confirmed it," tweeted Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon. Comey's last-minute announcement gives Clinton an opportunity for an I-told-you-so moment -- but it's unlikely to undo the political damage of his initial announcement. Trump and his allies have seized on that announcement, using it claim Clinton is likely to face criminal charges. "If she were to win, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis," Trump claimed Saturday night in Reno, Nevada. "In that situation we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt." The political benefit for Trump has been that Republicans who'd been skeptical of their party's nominee have largely followed vice presidential nominee Mike Pence's calls to "come home" to the party -- finding Trump less objectionable than Clinton.
That's pretty damn impressive.
You mean like Trump's foundation illegally paid Trump's legal bills, his personal bills and was used as he and his daughter's personal piggy bank?
Perhaps Trump should explain why the New York State Attorney General ordered his foundation to cease operations in New York because of its illegal activities.
Not to mention the "donation" the foundation gave to the Florida State Attorney General's campaign, also illegal, which oddly made the state's investigation of Trump's fraudulent University mysteriously go away.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Something I don't get: vetting content sent TO her should not be her job. There should be professional scrubbers doing that kind of work. I've worked in many orgs, and executives aren't expected to be doing that kind of "grunt" work. It goes to cubicle peons, like me.
Also, her home server is not necessarily more or less safer than the regular office email. In fact, the regular S.D. email server was hacked. (There is a separate message system for classified content, but it's not technically "email". It's a diff animal.) The home-vs-office dichotomy seems moot, at least as far as handling classified info*. Putting it on the wrong office box versus the wrong personal box seems the same sin to me.
* She didn't get "official" approval to use a home server, and also didn't follow the proper rules for archiving. But that's diff than the classified info issue.
Table-ized A.I.
You know, the one who printed out all those classified e-mails for Hillary and others to read. Is she exhonerated as well? I mean, we already know that Weiner is cleared, even though he had a laptop full of classified e-mails from Hillary and his wife...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Rock it on Tuesday, Hill! Slashdot is with You!
You are clearly reading a different slashdot than I am, in order to come to that conclusion. Slashdot has leaned hard-right for years (often under the pretend claim of "libertarianism"). More slashdot users will vote for Trump than Hillary, and quite likely more will abstain from voting altogether (due to Trump being not conservative enough) than will vote for her as well.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Everyone told me Comey was irresponsible and wasn't worth listening to last week. Why should we care what he says now?
No. Clinton directed her maid to print unclassified emails that were retroactively classified years later.
But that doesn't get yer juices flowing like yet another conspiracy, so carry on!
Trump that Bitch!
Lock Her Up!
Hillary for Prison!
The GOP will ensure that no matter the composition of the house and senate after this week, nothing will be allowed to progress under President Clinton. No supreme court vacancies will be filled, and no bills that have the least bit of "liberalism" in them will ever make it to the white house. There is a growing number of elected GOP politicians promising to start impeachment on her ASAP as well.
It appears we would have been better off electing a Ficus Tree instead, it would have operated on a much smaller budget.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Health issues could also arise with her again. Perhaps Kaine would be a better President anyway.
No matter who wins on Tuesday, we will all lose.
Our Presidential selection really doesn't select the best people. It selects power hungry miscreants.
Also she had her uncleared maid picking up secure faxes from the SCIF in her residence. Ain't no excuses for that one.
No. Clinton directed her maid to print unclassified emails that were retroactively classified years later.
Removing the classified markings from a classified document doesn't make it unclassified.
Classified information is classified regardless of whether it is marked or not.
Hillary had protective markings removed from some documents - see above.
Your claim is basically rubbish.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Well this is after 30 years of investigation for perceived slights by anti-American interests to supporting those who don't like to work, namely all the Republican congressmen. There is no protection of America or defense of American interests by those scum who prefer to not work while taking pay checks for gossiping.
Of course nothing changes. Comey's conclusions in July still stand: Clinton repeated many lies during her remarks to the public and before congress. She destroyed evidence under subpoena. She casually handled classified information on a home computer and passed it around to non-cleared staff. She failed to turn over thousands of work-related emails despite lying and saying that she and/or her lawyers had read every single one of them to err on the side of over-providing ... and on and on.
... and she got to have her immunity-deal-getting staff WITH her in that drive-by interview which was conducted not under oath and no recordings allowed. During which, she pretended to be so dumb, uninformed, and forgetful that she managed to avoid answering pretty much any question that would have demonstrated her obvious guilt. Guilt for doing things that would see any one of her State Department underlings out of a job and possible out of liberty from jail.
He's not changing the fact that he said anyone else doing what she did would face serious consequences, and that different treatment applied to her. He's not changing the fact that the FBI spent more time interviewing Brad Pitt about his argument with his son on an airplane than they spent interviewing Hillary Clinton
Yup, nothing has changed since July. Same corruption and the lasting pressure from the Clinton political machine through Obama down to Loretta Lynch's office. No change at all.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Pointing out her corruption and lying isn't "character assassination." Is it "weather assassination" when the meteorologist tells you it's raining?
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
I should have added a few facts to back my assertions. Whitewater led to 15 Felony convictions, so this is not merely speculation or allegation. Bill Clinton settled out of court with Paula Jones for 850,000.00, again not speculation or allegation. Chinagate ended with an award of 900,000 to Judicial Watch and people fleeing the country to avoid prosecution. Clinton later pardoned Marc Rich who is the person who fled prosecution. Again, not speculation or allegation.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Kristian Saucier went to jail for much less than that: taking selfies in a restricted area. Didn't even send them to anyone.
I'm sympathetic to arguments that classified rules are too strict, but Hillary shouldn't get special treatment. Elites getting special treatment is how we get unfair rules in the first place.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Hillary didn't know what a fax was. She thought it was a wax paper dispenser. She needed wax paper to make a gingerbread house for the neighbor kids. She's absolutely, 100 percent not guilty. You people should just stop investigating her.
The Bush administration lost 22 million emails because their entire crew was using private emails servers for administration business. How come nobody cared about that? oh, right, because at the time we were spending a trillion $ and thousands of lives searching for WMDs that didn't exist while outing CIA agents and letting people drown in New Orleans.
You couldn't care less about emails. You hate Hillary (and Obama) and that's it. No big surprise there--lots of assholes hate Hillary, it's one of the best things about her.
I've never been convicted of any crime. Therefore, by your logic, I'm a more powerful criminal than Al Capone?
I think that you believe that Hillary has not been convicted because she's bought all of the investigations. But among her opponents are very powerful Republican politicians. Not just one or two, but all of them. Some of her opponents are also billionaires. She and Bill are certainly not poor, but they cannot play in the same leagues as the Koch Bros and Sheldon Adelson (and supposedly Mr Trump). Maybe add the Russian intelligence agencies to that list of enemies. And her opponents have been coming after her for decades, and have so far proved that Bill gets blowjobs and Hillary is not competent at email security. Rather underwhelming.
Look, Hillary and Bill are powerful people, and they have some rich friends, but nobody is that invulnerable. Al Capone just had a few government agents who had to work within the rules against him; Hillary has half of the most powerful people in the USA (and many outside of the USA) gunning for her. If she was guilty, there would be proof. Instead, all we get is Wikileaks about, um, black magic or something equally moronic.
No, not the whitewash of Clinton's mishandling of classified data. I accept what the head of the FBI told Congress (under oath), that Secretary Clinton is too stupid to understand what she was doing was illegal. OK, fine.
But there's at least 110 emails sent to her that contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. That's the whitewash. Each of those emails represents at least three federal crimes:
Removing the classified data from secure computers
Removing the fact that it's classified
Sending it through a non-secure channel.
That's a minimum of 330 serious crimes by the people who sent those emails. There is no investigation of those people, and there will be one. No one will ever go to prison for those crimes. I'm guessing that most of them were sent by Clinton appointees, insiders who would be very, very embarrassing to Clinton should they be prosecuted. But we'll never know, because the White House (and it can't come from anywhere else) has whitewashed the entire affair.
That's the coverup.
If you receive a classified e-mail on an inappropriate system, this is called a spillage. In the event of a spillage, it is your responsibility to report this to your security manager. In this case, it would be someone at Hillary's State Department. That person would have confiscated all the devices the mail was received on, and identified the recipients. At that point, an evaluation would be made as to whether the recipients of the classified e-mail would be within USG control. If so, all of their devices would similarly be confiscated. If not, there might be a consultation with the authority in control of the classification guide(s) that made the e-mail classified. If it could be verified as not being under the guide and therefore arguably unclassified, it might end the tale there. But if the e-mail is in fact classified, all devices that have the e-mail on it will be wiped - either partially or wholly - of all evidence of the classified material. In addition, it might be necessary for the USG to take possession of the mass storage devices in question, as they would be assumed classified at the level of the material that passed over them. The technical guidance is that if, say, a "Secret" mail passed onto an unclassified system, the system's drive is now classified Secret and cannot pass out of the possession of the USG without destruction. At that point you'd get a new mass storage device with a new image on it, and your previous contents would be lost.
The documentation for these procedures is publicly available in Army Regulations AR 25-1 and 25.2, for the Army at least.
If you do not follow this procedure, you are guilty of a crime, which could reach up to espionage if intent can be determined.
Everyone who receives a clearance from the USG signs SF312. Hillary signed this too. She is in violation of its terms by her own admission and by the FBI's statements. She is guilty of more than one crime.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Actually when it comes to email security her private server is not known to have ever been hacked, but the State Department email system did get hacked during the same time.
The only legit complaint about her email server is that is violated transparency guidelines. But note that, nobody else is reacting to it in a way that we get to read their emails; The Bush administration used the RNC email server, Colin Power used a private corporate email (which he really thinks is different than a self-hosted one, but only in that it isn't secure), Bill Clinton refused to use email as President, though he was apparently using it privately for non-work stuff. There are lots of Governors around the country who have an aide whose main job is reading and writing emails, and usually not because the Gov. doesn't know how. We don't have everybody else's email, so the actual transparency problem is hard to pin down.
Clearly she didn't follow President Obama's transparency directives any better than anybody else, but we don't have their emails either "for whatever reason." The reality is that almost everybody in politics agrees that if they think the public will read it later, they can't actually do work in that channel, because even if they don't do anything wrong it will feed lots of "gotcha" type nonsense that is all taken out of context.
I've been stopped by the cops over a hundred times, and I've never even paid a parking ticket. I have paid library fines, 50 cents already this year, but that is my only proven misdeed. I guess I'm a master criminal too! Or I just wear clothes the cops don't like, and they aren't any good at their job.
RWNJ stands for Right Wing Nut Job, and is a left wing smear against anyone who questions the glorious leftist narrative.
Incidentally, due in large part to the growing ubiquity of leftist views in America, a sort of Left Wing Nut Job archetype has been taking shape. These are your basic "Trump is a Russian plant", "Biological sex is a myth", or "Hillary is the victim of a vast right wing conspiracy" type of people.
Really, the alt-right and progressives (AKA alt-left) are essentially the same sorts of people but with different ideological backgrounds. They both clamor for utopian fantasies, berate detractors with hateful insults and rhetoric, and generally wrap themselves up in worldviews that assume everyone on the other side is some combination of evil, stupid, or insane.
Both sides are incredibly toxic and are, in my opinion, regrettable side effects of the rise of internet culture and the ease with which it allows the creation of unassailable safe-space echo chambers where circlejerks and groupthink are the entire point.
YOu either discard both his statement or take both his statement to heart. Choosing and picking which one you want to hear, is partisan politic at its worst : it means you are paying attention to only what fit your worldview/echo chamber and discard what rocks your boat. Note that it works both way : those who wanted to ignore comey last week and take him seriously today (probably pro Hilary) are as guilty as those who wanted to take comey seriously last week and not seriously today (probably pro trump).
Anyway, if you are taking comey seriously all the way, or discarding him all the way , the same conclusion come : the email re-review is not relevant.
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Yes but that only means they should be in the cell next to hers. As the Boss she would have been expected to get off her fat ass, go down the hall and kick the shit out of who ever was sending her emails improperly. She didn't do that.
Basic State Dept email, if it is at all similar to our military email. You could send and receive confidential email all day long as long as you encrypted it before you sent it. I'm sure she had access to the higher level systems as well, but they are a pain in the ass to set up and have to be physically secured (locked doors, safes,etc) which probably didn't jive with her "I'm Hillary hear me roar attitude", which is why we have this mess in the first place.
My time in the Air Force this was hammered home over and over again to all levels. Her claiming she didn't know is very difficult to believe since training is required every year and mandatory briefings on security procedure every quarter with monthly updates and reminders as well. If she pencil whipped her training and briefing requirements that is entirely on her and her Boss (The President) no one else can be blamed for this. Over the course of my career I held everything from a secret (run of the mill security clearance all military get), secret SAR (special access request for my time working on the B2 Bomber, more than a Secret less than a Top Secret), and Top Secret (Russian crypto-linguist which I didn't stay in because I sucked at learning Russian but still ended up with the clearance anyway since they took so long to do.)
I watched dozens of officers and enlisted loose their jobs of much more benign violations of security protocols than the stunts she pulled.
Let's define terms to start off with.
CONFIDENTIAL – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause damage to the national security.
SECRET – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to the national security.
TOP SECRET – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security.
Here are some examples to understand the different types of messages:
"Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, you are probably going TDY tomorrow" not a problem by any method.
"Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, we are sending you tonight TDY." Starting to edge into Confidential territory.
"Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, we are sending you tonight to Krap-ic-stan" (we don't normally go there for any reason.) This is definitely confidential and maybe even higher. You can't talk about this stuff outside on non-gov't un-encrypted systems.
"Hey Joe call work, pack your bag for a 6 month deployment to Krap-ic-stan. We are sending you and 30 other guys to an airfield to support 5 aircraft that are being sent there. This is most definitely Secret or higher now. You are not allowed to talk about this with anyone outside of work. You are not allowed to talk about this over unsecured networks. Email traffic has to be encrypted and only sent over the SIPR network (isolated secured network for Secret/Top Secret traffic) Anything higher level than that was way about my pay grade so if it exists I never saw it.
"Hey Joe call work, pack your bag for a 6 month deployment to Krap-ic-stan. We are sending you and 30 other guys to an airfield to support 5 aircraft. There are 200 other people being sent from the squadrons A, B, and C along with the Spec-Op guys who will be supporting the Army who will in turn will be supporting the rebels in Krap-ic-stan to take down their dictator." This is most definitely now Secret (we've been doing this