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Twitter Is 'Toast' and the Stock Is Not Even Worth $10, Says Analyst (cnbc.com)
Twitter is "toast" as a company and the stock is not even worth $10, according to a research note published Tuesday, following the departure of another top executive at the social media service. From a report on CNBC: The microblogging platform's chief technology officer, Adam Messinger, tweeted that he would leave the company and "take some time off", while Josh McFarland, vice president of product at Twitter, also said he was exiting the company. Both executives announced their departure on Tuesday. Meanwhile, last month, Adam Bain stepped down as chief operating officer last month to be replaced by chief financial officer Anthony Noto, who has yet to be replaced. Twitter has also lost leaders from business development, media and commerce, media partnerships, human resources, and engineering this year. The departures prompted Trip Chowdhry, the managing director of equity research at Global Equities Research, and a noted "uber-bear" on tech stocks, to issue a note on Tuesday claiming Twitter is "toast" and "not even a $10 stock." "Many investors were foolishly building (an) investment thesis based on complete stupidity," Chowdhry wrote. The analyst said that Twitter's data quality is "horrible". Chowdhry said that many pollsters used Twitter data to predict a Hillary Clinton win in the U.S. election but the fact that Donald Trump won shows that data quality is poor. One reason for this is too many fake users on the platform, Chowdhry claims.
Chowdry says idiotic things to try to influence stocks. If you look at some of his "analysis" it is nonsense. If you don't look at it, it is best to treat it as lies.
Regardless of your opinions of Trump, it seems pretty ignorant to suggest that Twitter shutting down would completely de-fang him.
It is almost like you're implying that the shutdown of Twitter equates to the shutdown of social media as a concept.
Let us return to the times when a stock's value depended on the P/E ratio and not the mythical confidence fairy.
I have to agree with Trip Chowdhry on this. In my experience you don't see that many high level folks leaving a company if all is well.
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I am glad
Shush, he might hear you and nationalize it.
Sure, Twitter is most notable failure. Other social media is not categorically different and stock values are equally divorced from reality.
Donald Trump has (well, will soon enough) the presidential alert system, so he can message everyone's phone instead. With a piercing alarm, at 3AM, and you can't disable this (unless you root your phone). Trump will be fine.
But where will the Twitter hate mobs go to get their outrage on? What if a scientists wears the wrong shirt - how will they know to be outraged? How will they live if Twitter goes under?
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
We should be so lucky
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
It's been clear to a number of us that Twitter's primary users are more on the social side of the spectrum, lean more to the left, are engaged more in arts and all that, but all of the news snippets over the past year or so seem to come out after the company articulated publicly that they are more or less an SJW platform, that they're going to selectively ban questionable comments under the guise of anti-racism, etc., etc.
Maybe I'm wrong but the timelines literally suggest that Twitter's failure was its political alignment rather than providing a neutral grounds for socializing.
Actually, this is very bad news. Loss of his Twitter outlet might cause le Grande Orange to take full advantage of the upcoming universal cell messaging push technology being rolled out to use in national emergencies. You want to get five messages every day from the brain of your dyehard leader - with no way to turn them off?
If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
This has nothing whatsoever to do with Trump, they're losing tons of money because they don't have a good way to make money.
Besides, even if it did shut down, there's always gab.ai
I suspect that would pretty much guarantee its demise. After all, what's another bankruptcy to him. He can use the loss to avoid paying even more taxes.
I'll just turn my phone off at night.
I think the unprofitable nature of the thing is what is not "a viable business," identity politics or no.
Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur...
"Force shits upon Reason's back." - Poor Richard's Almanac
Good...the cesspool of political correctness is blowing up in their faces
So you are coming out strongly against people making abrasive comments about specific people online?
The analyst said that Twitter's data quality is "horrible".
Using "twitter" and "data" and "quality" in the same sentence made me laugh.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
I've tried several Twitter alternatives some in beta some not and unfortunately, most of the things I dislike about Twitter I dislike about them as well. You can join a network that has a strong anti censorship stance and this seems like progress but then you end up with almost unending amounts of hate and vitriol in excess even of Twitter. Even on platforms populated by people on my side of the political isle (libertarian republican types)... it is just unpleasant and unhealthy and gets old fast. I don't know how you take a global broadcast like platform and make it into something palatable.
There's a way to turn them off. I don't need my phone that badly.
they'll just go to Reddit and whargarrbl into an even stronger echo-chamber. Or get mad when they run afoul of the ever-shifting rules and move over to voat.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Doesn't Trump has to at least assume the office before he has means of enacting tyranny? It is still Obama's show for now.
It's currently owned by Saudis who donated tons of millions to Clinton.
Virtually everyone predicted a big Hillary win and virtually everyone was wrong.
I have a theory about that.
There was a palpable Anti-Trump PC thing happening. Anything that could possibly be interpreted as a Pro-Trump or Anti-Hillary statement could have ended in an online dogpile of people shouting "Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Transphobic, Islamophobic, Xenophobic" so people kept their thoughts to themselves until they got to the one place where they could express themselves without external pressure, the voting booth.
You can't fault Twitter for misreading the tea leaves just like pretty much everyone else.
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
While rampant SJWing certainly didn't help, Twitter sans SJW is still not viable.
Twitter relies on 140 character messages. How are you supposed to monetize the store and forward of 140 character messages?
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Well, if you capitalize TYRANT and all, then it has to be true. Now excuse me, I'm going to go eat an ICE CREAM CONE.
Statistical analysis by unbiased machine learning systems, derived via data on social media platforms including Twitter, that Trump would win. The difference between the correct and wrong predictive systems is that one was just left-wing echo chambers regurgitating Hillary propaganda, the other was a genuine unbiased prediction engine. All these departure protests are is more left-wing bullying to manipulate social media into promoting their bull crap.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28...
"Sorrow is better than laughter, for by sadness of face the heart is made glad." [Ecclesiastes 7:3]
I suspect that many twitterers were just repeating what they were hearing on MSM.
Is MSM also toast?
Seeing as how he's already fucking up relations between the US and China, as well as 'saving' 700 jobs from Carrier, apparently not.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
This is what happens when you arbitrarily ban people because you don't like them.
It spawned gab.ai. Now they hint that they might ban Trump. Which means he would go to gab and take a lot of his 10million folowers with him.
I say this as a non-user, so I acknowledge that I might be ignorant on the subject. But...
I never understood how/why Twitter (or really any messaging platform/app) is a business. I mean, tweeting does actually seem like a useful tool for certain communication needs, but I don't understand why it's handled through a single service. Why isn't the tweet simply a protocol, like email? People would then just build different clients/apps/platforms that utilize that protocol, just like we do with email.
It doesn't strike me as good business to not have a presidential candidate/president-elect on your platform. But most people that are anti-SJW don't really have that kind of pull, so they're less of an issue.
Just think how this will stimulate the economy. People will be constantly destroying their phones... flinging them across the room in disgust. Instant bump
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
Explain how Trump exists so "bigly" on Twitter if it is such a rabid "SJW platform".
It's still used by celebrities, record labels, television shows, etc., to broadcast a message to the people that still effectively utilize said platform which, according to Edison Research last year, is 7% of the American population (which is what I assume you mean by 'bigly').
The "tyrant" leaves on Jan 20th. Trump may or may not work with Congress, we don't know that yet.
Twitter already allows some individuals to engage in "arbitrary amounts of harassments, death threats and stalking". You should have instead said: "If they allowed everyone arbitrary amounts of harassments, death threats and stalking...".
No, Obama is the single best president there has ever been.
The Tyrant enters office on Jan 20.
stupid TFA didn't even mention the VALUATION (who cares about the price of a single share?)...should be around $7.1B at $10/share.
Regardless of your opinions of Trump, it seems pretty ignorant to suggest that Twitter shutting down would completely de-fang him.
It is almost like you're implying that the shutdown of Twitter equates to the shutdown of social media as a concept.
Gab.ai is a twitter replacement that has started up recently and is collecting a lot of interest.
Their product advantage - the thing that differentiates them from the rest of the market - is that they enforce free speech. So long as the speech isn't something that's patently illegal in the US, it's allowed on their site. (Disallowed: illegal pornography, threats and terrorism, doxing/publishing private information.)
Twitter seems to be taking sides with half of it's userbase, and driving the other half away. I've always felt that taking sides in customer arguments (against other customers) was a bad thing, but they're vigorously doing that so I'm sure there's some corporate benefit that I'm missing.
Gab allows each user to filter out anything they don't want to see, either other users or specific words. This seems like it's the right solution, because it allows people to use the system without seeing things they find distasteful, while not infringing on other peoples' free speech. I can only imagine that people will put together recommended word lists in topics such as pornography, or vulgarity, or meanness, that others can download and install.
So if you're concerned about twitter shutting down, check out Gab.ai as an alternate system.
The carrier jobs was possible because Mike Pence (the VP-Elect) is currently the Governor of Indiana, where those jobs are.
As fuck fucking up relations with China, the fact that they are building military installations off the Philippine coast suggests that ship sail long ago.
I have messed around with data mining tweets for sporting events and no matter how I sliced and diced the info it is hard to get anything of value. A high profile event like the SuperBowl will generate tens of thousands of tweets in a 2 hour span. After you filter out all the words like "the", "it", "shit" and "fuck" etc etc etc its just pile of steaming crap. It was fun to fool around with but it was hard to gauge anything from it. Only 1 to 2% of users actually share their geo coordinates. The location field is a mess of "NEW YORK", "NYC", "big apple" and that sort of thing. You could clearly see increased spikes after big plays...but no shit...people are excited so the frequency chart spikes after a touchdown...do tell. I have tried using it to gauge sentiment in my home town on various issues....absolutely worthless.. although some of that might be just me as well.
washington, lincoln, and roosevelt, both, would like a word with you.
certainly not the worst, but by no means the best.
I do hope so.
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
"You want to get five messages every day from the brain of your dyehard leader"? Yes, I do. As the fake news purveyors have been so stridently crowing, fake news is a problem. Getting messages direct from the Trumpa Lumpa would be preferable to getting them filtered through the corporate media spin machine. Trump messages would be just one more direct government propaganda outlet, similar to RT, Xinhua, or the BBC, and therefore more trustworthy than the corporate media.
Now, stick with me here, because I know you just gasped through your ball gag of wadded up manties at someone trusting the government more than the media in this country. Government mouthpieces are MORE trustworthy sources of news, because you know from the get go that they are preaching a party line, and trying to influence your views. Non government sources of news are doing the exact same thing, but then lying to your face with a veneer of impartiality and "just reporting the facts". Since a government outlet is doing the same thing, but with one less whopper, it is therefore more trustworthy.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go read about the latest adventures of Dear Leader in Rodong Sinmun http://www.rodong.rep.kp/en/
As fuck fucking up relations with China, the fact that they are building military installations off the Philippine coast suggests that ship sail long ago.
Indeed it was a long time ago. I recall thinking when they downed the spy plane by ramming it in 2001 with *no* repercussions that we would be seen as a paper Tiger. If it makes the /. crowd happy, this is a legitimate instance of blame Bush II as he was the president at the time.
True. One can have good quality data and still come up with the wrong information. Blaming the data source in a deliverable work hasn't helped many a student in the past. ;)
Ezekiel 23:20
Keep whining old guys.
Buying opportunity IMHO
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This is not funny. In Argentina, former president Cristina Kirchner used to abuse the Emergency Broadcast System to do politics and override all channels at the same time forcibly.
Pretty sure congress decided it wasn't Obama's show anymore a long time ago...
Bottles.
It's been clear to a number of us that Twitter's primary users are more on the social side of the spectrum, lean more to the left, are engaged more in arts and all that, but all of the news snippets over the past year or so seem to come out after the company articulated publicly that they are more or less an SJW platform, that they're going to selectively ban questionable comments under the guise of anti-racism, etc., etc. Maybe I'm wrong but the timelines literally suggest that Twitter's failure was its political alignment rather than providing a neutral grounds for socializing.
Considering that SJW is the new Jewish conspiracy, communist agenda, liberal media, Muslim menace, boogie man, and does not exist as such, I have to believe that your ideas are incorrect.
The only thing worse than a Democrat is a Republican.
I think it's 100% due to the fact that they never even developed a solid plan to *one day* have money.
If ads didn't work for Facebook, they could still charge users $3 a year and be solvent. Reddit is scraping by with subscriptions and gifted "gold". Maybe if Twitter tried $.025 a year they'd be able to stay up.
The Invisible Hand of the Free Market is what punches workers in the nuts.
It's interesting that you view "not being a horrific racist" as a political alignment.
Either you're intellectually dishonest or you're not aware of Twitter's shenanigans over the past year where they'd allowed horrifically racist commentary like "white people must die" or anti-Christian commentary yet banned the accounts of white people who communicated even the lightest of philosophical questions on race or religion.
It's either all racist or it's not. It's either all anti-religious or it's not. Twitter became a selective judge and jury as to what constituted as racist based on the race and/or religion of the source and target.
Maybe they've cleaned up their act since the summer, when you could easily find #BlackLivesMatters quotes that literally cried for the death of white people or from other groups crying for Allah to kill people... but the damage is already done. Twitter's actions stated 'this is who we are, this is who we support, this is who we don't support.'
I'm so ready for Twiiter to die. The whole concept-—reducing all content to 140 character sound bytes suitable for a child's consumption, is insulting and doing real damage to the world and people's ability to communicate. It almost single-handedly allowed the election of a tyrant to the highest office in the world. Its users need to learn how to write in *complete paragraphs*, with spacing, punctuation, and everything else that makes language worth using in the first place.
Social media bubble bursted time long ago...
Remember MySpace, digg, orkut, Google+?
Clearly the Clinton Crime Family is behind the destruction of Twitter! Oh when will the murderous Clintons be dealt with?
Oh, and Chy-na!
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He has it backwards. The pollsters did not use Twitter data to predict that Hillary would win. They predicted that Hillary would win and then used Twitter data to make it look like it was something other than just wishful thinking on their part. Anybody who predicted that Hillary would win by a wide margin (and many people did) were basing it on wishful thinking. All of the REAL data before the election indicated a close election. Even the Electoral College blowout which Trump got was the result of small leads in many states he was expected to lose.
All of the prognosticators whose predictions were close to the actual results predicted a Trump victory, but made it clear that they had a bias in that direction and pointed out where their assumptions might be wrong because of that bias.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Time to start looking at Twitter's patent portfolio. Gonna be a whole lot of "on a network" patents that can be used in East Texas to extort cash.
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The analyst said that Twitter's data quality is "horrible". Chowdhry said that many pollsters used Twitter data to predict a Hillary Clinton win in the U.S. election but the fact that Donald Trump won shows that data quality is poor. One reason for this is too many fake users on the platform, Chowdhry claims.
Twitter has had issues with monetization, but the idea that the platform is somehow flawed because some idiot used it as a source polling is nuts. You can't determine an election from reading tweets.
Twitter differentiated itself from other social sites by embracing simplicity and mobile. The simplicity of twitter has also hurt it, because it keeps failing at expanding the platform beyond tweets making it a poor growth stock since its user growth has stagnated.
As much as I think Trump may end up being the worst US president since Buchanan, I can't see how his pissing match with China is anything more than a more vocal version of what Obama has been doing for a few years now. The US Navy has been doing sailbys and flyovers of this artificial island for some time now, which in a helluva more direct way is telling China "The most powerful navy that has ever existed on the planet Earth does not accept your concreted seamount as actual territory." On this particular score I think giving Beijing a frequent and very vocal middle finger is rather important.
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He and George W Bush in the critical months of 2008-2009 basically saved the world from a global depression. Say what you will about Obama, but the fact remains that the US's massive effort to prevent a global credit market freeze up will be seen as one of the most important economic interventions of the last 200 years.
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Hell, I'd bet that the other social media outlets like Facebook and Reddit would start a bidding war to become Trump's new official mouthpiece. I'm sure that they is good money to be made in selling ads to his followers.
All those tech companies with their famously large cash hoards should have massive investor lawsuits over dividends -- but they don't. Why?
Because it's more tax-efficient and potentially higher return for companies to reinvest their profits into new development or acquisition. Google's purchase of (and further investment in) Android provided much better use of cash than if they had paid out a $50M dividend, which the recipient would then owe tax on. Instead the shares became more valuable due to the cash generating machine getting bigger.
When tech companies start paying out a dividend, it's a sign or surrender: "hey, we don't know how to invest this.... you can have it." See Cisco, Oracle, Apple, etc.
LOL, well, someone over there is trying, just not very successfully.
Twitter has been dying for years though; Trump ironically brought them back into the limelite, but they still could not profit from it.
The Unicorns will be next though, not Facebook.
The previous poster, "hipp5", may not be a Twitter user, but it sounds to me like he understands it better than most regular Twitter users do!
From the first day the service was announced, a lot of us "long timers" in computers and I.T. were left scratching our heads, wondering what the point was in the entire thing? I mean, Twitter was essentially nothing more than yet *another* IM client of sorts, except with arbitrarily short limits on the length of messages. I grant that there's a certain amount of value, in at least the artistic sense, in forcing people to communicate in very brief statements. It forces people to think before they write, and distill things down to the most succinct possible way to get a message across. But building a commercial platform on that and expecting huge profits would somehow follow? Not so much ....
As you can predict, people struggled to find more validity for Twitter as time went on. I saw everything from realtors shooting out updates about the latest properties to go on the market for sale to a laundromat that had Twitter enabled washing machines and dryers, so you could get an immediate notification when a machine was finished or available. But none of this really constituted a "killer app" for Twitter. Rather, it felt like "trying too hard" to prove it had value.
Now it's expanded to try to be more of a Facebook clone, where you can share links, video, audio .... whatever you like. But again, nothing that makes Twitter stand out as a unique tool, accomplishing something I can't already do elsewhere.
Precisely! In fact, he can easily establish a competing channel, similar to the concept behind Trump TV, and direct everybody there - for ratings alone, that channel would prosper. Also, if Twitter is in the financial mess that it is, either Trump himself or the Trump organization can buy it up, and then make it his platform. And being the great negotiators that they are, they'll probably negotiate that market cap down to $4, then whip it up to $4M, and claim a million fold increase in the company, demonstrating their innate greatness
Hope he does! Most of the fake news will be gone
No, a default this time would be the US defaulting, meaning we the people defaulting - so that our creditors, like the Chinese, will be left holding junk. Beijing will be so pissed that they'll ban any Chinese products from going to the US, we'll have to build our own stuff, jobs, jobs, jobs......
The election is over. Can everybody please STFU about politics for at least one day?
No. The trolls who now own slashdot have determined that the days of discussing CPUs, OSs, gadgets, computing platforms and the like are over, and in its place, discussions about politics, Trump, Clinton, climate change, Uber, et al are worthy substitutes
Which is one of the reasons why artificial islands are not accepted under Maritime Law as being actual territory. They are ultimately transient. If China were to abandon this island, within twenty years it would be back under water. It takes continuous import of materials and shoring up to keep artificial islands built atop reefs and seamounts usable. They are not land save in the most temporary sense of the word. It's like calling a bridge land.
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The carrier jobs was possible because Mike Pence (the VP-Elect) is currently the Governor of Indiana, where those jobs are.
As fuck fucking up relations with China, the fact that they are building military installations off the Philippine coast suggests that ship sail long ago.
Actually, no. When Carrier first announced that relocation, Pence did contact them and ask if there was anything he could do to keep them there. They told him that it was a result of federal taxes and regulations that made them make this decision.
The difference after the Trump election is that he had his people look at them, and saw that Carrier's parent company United Technologies had millions or billions in government contracts. He used that, as well as other things as bargaining chips. While Pence, as governor, did provide tax breaks in this case, there was no way United was going to let Carrier sink their business, so they worked out a deal.
Pence did make an effort both before he was even the VP nominee, and after the election. The difference is that the first time, the only cards he had was the IN government. The second time, he had the future US government, and his boss knows how to cut a deal, which was a combination of carrots and sticks. The sticks threatened to be particularly painful, but the carrots were okay, and was IN tax $$$ being used to save a thousand IN jobs. Which is not an inappropriate usage of tax money
As off the mark as mainstream journalism may be, this need by both the alt-right and alt-left (Bernie's angry supporters) to basically invoke some sort of weird journalistic solipsism leaves me pretty exasperated. We are really reaching a place of post-modernist nihilism, where people are convinced there is no such thing as truth, so therefore they are free to say and believe anything, and that such conduct will have no consequences.
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You're right he could have let them stay out of jails, and fend for them self when they were public enemy #1. i can see a whole lot less dead innocent people had that happened.
Yeah. You'd also have to deplete the world's spray-tan reserves and hunt the entire orange guinea pig population to extinction.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Worse, be a US citizen of Japanese descent.
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I just go into my iPhone's settings and turn those alerts off with a simple slider.
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Credit will always be available for rational investments.
Subsidizing legal counterfeiting (i.e. fractional-reserve lending) to distort the market by making any investment "good" (for the banks--because getting massive interest on unbacked imaginary money), and rewarding it with billions in bailout for the -precise cause- that the approach -failed-, does not improve the economy. It just injects some nitro in the bubble-making machine, keeping it going to make the next bubble (and "crucial" bailout) even bigger.
And then the gold standard kooks come out of the woodwork.
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The mods' sarcasm detectors appear to be faulty today.
Every time Twitter comes up on Slashdot someone goes on a rant about how its decline is all the fault of SJWs, safe-spaces or some other perceived PCness.
The fact that Twitter has never had a viable business model is apparently of no importance.
Paul Leader
If it's a US phone, you can turn off weather alerts and EAS alerts, but not presidential alerts.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Ah, the sweet clear clarion call of ideological purity. Unless someone is 100% "good" (according to my way of thinking), they are 100% evil.
All Bush and Obama did was hand a couple of trillion dollars over to bankers. Single largest looting of a nations treasury in world history. Had they instead simply allowed all the investment banks to fail: the world would have kept turning, the sun would have risen, and people would have found a way to accept payment from one another. Oh, it might have taken a couple of weeks to become efficient again, to route around the damage, but commerce would have gone on with barely a hiccup.
But no, we paid nearly $20,000 per taxpayer to bankers. That shows who the real power in America is, and it doesn't seem to matter much who's president.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
William Henry Harrison is obviously the best President. He didn't fuck up anything and refused to kick Democrats out of positions in the government. What a fine President!
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
No modern economy is going to peg to gold anymore. The day is done. Find another hobby horse. This isn't a "left vs right" matter, this is a "sensible vs irrational" thing.
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The world kept turning and the sun kept rising during the Depression, but it still remained an incredibly hideous time for large parts of the world, so avoiding such economic collapses is an awfully damned good idea. And yes, some bad people effectively got rewarded, but the greater good and all of that.
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He can blow hundreds of millions... just to save a third of that in taxes?
You haven't paid much attention to how his finances work, then. Yeah, it would be hundreds of millions in, but it would mostly be in various weird loan mechanisms that are not available to normal members of the proletariat such as ourselves. It would look like his money, but only on paper. The loans would go into default, he would pay almost nothing on them, and then take a giant tax credit on top of it.
In other words his risk would be almost zero. Worst case scenario he goes several more years without paying taxes. Best case scenario Twitter turns around and becomes profitable (which of course he takes credit for).
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Twitter is part of how Trump got elected. It was part of how he played the media for free propaganda. If he was mailing letters to the NYT editors at 3am instead of sending tweets at 3am nobody would have cared (as the mail wouldn't have made it to the mailroom any sooner than one sent at a normal time).
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
The investment banks play only a predatory role in the economy. The economy would not have been the worse for their absence. The difficulty normal, retail banks -- banks in the business of checking/savings accounts and loans and so on -- were having was being handled in an orderly fashion by the Fed. The weak were being culled, but there was no danger of "collapse". The investment banks, OTOH, were on the brink. But they do nothing useful to begin with, so nothing of value would have been lost.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Actually, there is good analyses showing that Government intervention significantly lengthened the Great Depression. And given that our unemployment rate - if calculated as it was pre-2008 - is still around 9%, and inflation - if calculated as it was pre-1990 - is still around 8%, we are still in the recession (lowering the inflation rate artificially results in an artificially increased GDP growth rate).
Yes, the stock market is way up, but when you pump several trillion dollars straight into investment banks, it's no surprise that the value of the investments increases on paper. But hey, we're still adding around $1.4 trillion a year to the debt so we do have another year or two of ever-increasing stock market values.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
yes, and I believe gitmo is the pinnacle of human rights values.
It's less solipsism than cynicism. Truth is truth, and reality exists, but that doesn't mean that trusting confirmed liars at face value is the best way to discover said truth. Accounting for the motivations of the people delivering the news allows for a more accurate picture of reality.
Fun fact: It is actually against the terms of service of both Facebook and Twitter to sign up by incompletely or inaccurately identifying oneself. And, if they were able to actually properly police that, it would destroy their business plan in mere days because everyone would realize that neither platform is nearly as popular or exciting as the swarms of millions of astro-turfing bots suggest.
Meh, this isn't the first time people were less concerned with facts. Post-truth or fake news are just new words to describe something as old as journalism. During the Spanish American war we called it Yellow Journalism. It is the same thing for a different time.
The 'Post-truth' and 'fake news' is just buzzwords to excuse the poor journalism that cannot explain why they were so wrong.
You're not really following what's happening with patents, are you?
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
I hear so are liberal tears, not that I'd care to try them.
And now, temperatures in the Arctic are soaring upwards: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/science/arctic-global-warming.html
All just "funny coincidences"? I doubt it. Obama sure is getting the last word on global events.
That would only be true if the same financial instruments were available to all. Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, a full gold-plated dining set in his crib, and platinum-tinted shoes to fill out the package. He has always had options available to him that >>99% of all Americans will never have access to. No bank that will take someone like me (a mere "thousand-aire") is going to loan on the terms that he takes out loans on - even though my credit history suggests I am less of a loan default risk than he is.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
It's been clear to a number of us that Twitter's primary users are more on the social side of the spectrum, lean more to the left, are engaged more in arts and all that, but all of the news snippets over the past year or so seem to come out after the company articulated publicly that they are more or less an SJW platform, that they're going to selectively ban questionable comments under the guise of anti-racism, etc., etc.
Maybe I'm wrong but the timelines literally suggest that Twitter's failure was its political alignment rather than providing a neutral grounds for socializing.
So what do you do when a popular user starts sending their followers to harass other users and driving people away from the service?
Complete neutrality isn't an option, if you don't enforce rules then the community will be overtaken by its most hostile members, and then Twitter really will be in trouble.
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Youtube used to be famous for how much money it lost, now Google just fills it up with ads and it's crazily profitable.
And the thing with youtube is it doesn't really have a community, it's just a place for people to post videos they generally share elsewhere, and there's no good reason for people to keep sticking with youtube and all its ads other than the fact they're used to it and are willing to tolerate the ads.
I don't see why Twitter can't just start spamming ads until they're profitable, if their user base is like every other user base of a major service they'll grumble and stick around.
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How can the official information channel of the POTUS be worthless?
Complete neutrality isn't an option, if you don't enforce rules then the community will be overtaken by its most hostile members, and then Twitter really will be in trouble.
Twitter is already in real trouble. The community is already overtaken by its most hostile members. They did not enforce the rules equally.
Twitter allowing a virtual and very public lynching when someone said #allLivesMatter in aid of a charity very clearly displays that Twitter considers a minority ideology more important than the maintaining a mass of users.
Twitter allowed itself to be steered by a vocal minority and is likely going to get punished for it by the silent majority. Same as recent US election.
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
This!
Contrary to the jewish conspiracy, the SJW do exist and they are even more dangerous than most could possibly imagine.
I saw it firsthand during gamergate where the simple call for more journalistic integrity (really, just not sleeping with the people you report on would have been enough) was answered by the SJW with a torrent of abuse, slurs, doxxing and death threats.
And of course while we do now finally have at least some integrity in gaming journalism, the SJW also succeeded in tainting this peacful rebellion to make everyone believe that it was about hating women who play/develop videogames, when this had nothing to do with it.
The evil male mysoginist gamers even donated so much money to a feminist foundation that they got to name a mascot after them, Vivian James.
Its funny to read the wikipedia article on it and to check the sources: most point to Gawker and its many subsites for "evidence" of women hating, when it was them who were in the center of the debate for more journalistic integrity. Thats like citing "Mein Kampf" as a source for an article on worldwide jewery.
FDR did far worse things than locking up people of Japanese descent.
And there _were_ Japanese agents in that population. Before the age of political correctness they even interviewed some. Recall the 1970s series 'The World at War', they interviewed several former Japanese agents that had been hidden among the Japanese American population.
If you want to beat up FDR, how about being so clueless he had a guy who worked for Stalin as his chief of staff? It's proven now, KGB archives.
How about trying to stuff the SC so he could ignore large parts of the constitution?
How about putting abuse of the commerce clause into standard practice?
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
The only way Twitter is going to be in trouble is if people read stories like this and believe it. Then, investors freak out and pull out. Then they will go bankrupt and guess who saves the day? Facebook. -_-. Agents are trying to get Twitter into trouble because they revoked the government's API keys for tracking software that they used. Facebook, the almighty private life spy God, steps in to "save the day," just like they did with Whatsapp after being accused as a platform for ISIS communication. Twitter was also asked to help keep a log of Muslim users and they refused. They also refuse on many occasions to take down users because of free speech, hateful or not; it's all relative anyway. That's all this is and won't be anything more if people had half an ounce of intelligence to it buy into this crap.
your dyehard leader -
I see what you did there. Was it intentional or Freudian?