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Labor Department Sues Oracle For Paying White Men More (usatoday.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from USA Today: Oracle is being sued by the Labor Department for paying white men more than their counterparts and for favoring Asian workers when recruiting and hiring for technical roles. The administrative lawsuit is the latest from the Labor Department to take aim at the human resources practices of major technology companies. The Labor Department warned the lawsuit could cost Oracle hundreds of millions in federal contracts. Oracle makes software and hardware used by the federal government. "The complaint is politically motivated, based on false allegations, and wholly without merit," Oracle spokesman Deborah Hellinger said in a statement. "Oracle values diversity and inclusion, and is a responsible equal opportunity and affirmative action employer. Our hiring and pay decisions are non-discriminatory and made based on legitimate business factors including experience and merit." The lawsuit is the result of an Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs review of Oracle's equal employment opportunity practices, the Labor Department said. According to the lawsuit, Oracle America paid white male workers more, leading to pay discrimination against women, African American and Asian employees. The Labor Department also accused Oracle of favoring Asians for product development and other technical roles, resulting in discrimination against non-Asian applicants. Oracle refused to comply with the Labor Department's investigation, which began in 2014, such as refusing to provide compensation data for all employees, complete hiring data for certain business lines and employee complaints of discrimination, according to the federal agency.
Against Asians, but at the same time, on different aspect, against everyone else in favor of Asians.
That's quite discriminatory indeed, albeit, not quite logical.
There's no contradiction in the two statements. The few white males they do hire are being given higher pay, but the majority of the jobs are going to lower-paid Asian workers.
I'm half white, and half Japanese. Does that mean I'll get the job AND get paid more? If so, sign me up! I even live in the East Bay, so I'm local!
Those are not mutually exclusive options...
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
That's bullshit. It ought to value their software's reliability and performance instead. Nothing else.
If that means, hiring more (or less) Asians/Blacks/Whites/Purples — so be it.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
This is a load of claptrap. You don't hire to fill quotas unless you're government. You hire the best candidate to do a job.
You pay what the market is willing to bear and what that employee negotiates.
Unless you don't...
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
I'm sorry, but changing (or choosing to enforce) the current rules does not magically level the playing field. If it did, minorities would long ago have stopped complaining that the system is rigged against them. Then again, the situation I've just described does leave itself open to manipulation by the "good ol' boy's club".
I'd be more interested in knowing if job tenure was considered in analyzing the pay differential that the DOL alleges they've discovered.
Well, if the employee doesn't like what they are offered, or think they can get more elsewhere, damn, they can either negotiate or go elsewhere. Nothing *forcing* them to stay.
I've been in the work-world long enough to know that social factors play a large role in actual hiring decisions/preferences. Humans are social animals and tribal by nature/habit.
We like to THINK we are objective, but in practice we are not. We unconsciously prefer people who think like and have a background similar to ourselves. We don't want mental-world-view-mismatches that take us out of our comfort zone.
Once I inadvertently got the results of my own job interview due to a mix-up. The hiring manager stated, "Tablizer [alias] is technically competent and experienced, but has no personality. He is a stick-in-the-mud. We want somebody more interesting." [paraphrased]
Table-ized A.I.
If they filed before the election instead of the day before inauguration of a President from the opposing party. Once again, if Trump drops the suit, he is racist. If Trump wins the suit, it's Trump persecuting the tech sector while Obama protected minority rights. Who are these jokers kidding?
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
You don't hire to fill quotas unless you're government. You hire the best candidate to do a job.
Tell that to Intel Corp. and their "diversity initiative". Managers were essentially* barred from hiring men unless from a distinct minority (black, hispanic, american indian).
*I don't believe there is written directive to this end, but more than one manager told me directly that this was the case and that it was not uncertain that their own performance reviews depended on their "diversity".
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Here we go...
#OnlyBlackLivesMatter!
The Democrat creed: We must promote intersectional bullshit in order to foment racial and ethnic tensions, divide the population into groups all trying to out-victim the other, then use that to stay in power in collusion with banksters. To make sure that works, we must excoriate any member of a victim class who dares to leave the thought plantation.
The response is correct: "The complaint is politically motivated, based on false allegations, and wholly without merit."
Merit is the biggest modifier in people's pay, and has been for decades. Equal opportunity has been the law several decades now. More women graduate college than men, and have been superior in terms of years of education for quite some time now. The Gender pay gap has been debunked so often that I honestly question the sanity of people who continue to argue that it exists. US Department of Labor data shows that women make more than men with the same qualifications and work habits, not less.
Simple questions answer the issue easily. If women work for less than men, why does any company run by a man hire a man? I'm really tired of this leftist religion being crammed down everyone's throats. Yes, it has become a religion.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
And that's where the government takes issue. Workers of equal skill should get paid roughly the same wages. It's why the government has such arcane employment ranks - your current rank is based on your skill, and within that rank, there's a guideline to pay ranges. So if you're a software developer 3, there may be a +/- $3000/year variance - a slightly weaker SD3 may get less than the average, a slightly stronger one more. If you aren't skilled enough to make it to the higher level, you can move within the range. But once you get promoted, your pay jumps to within the new range.
That's how they judge equality. They recognize people have different skills and they group them so the group roughly has the same wage. If you're a good negotiator, maybe you get a couple thousand dollars more. Either way, it's a small variation.
Even if all you do is hire the best of the best, they slot somewhere in the scale, and thus get paid roughly the same.
The whole 'negotiate your salary" thing is a scam by managers who know employees generally are powerless and thus weaker in negotiations from the get-go. It's the same as why everyone says to not tell anyone what you're paid - again, a scam to lower wages. (Everyone's afraid they're the ones who are overpaid, while in reality, open wages tends to bring wages up as people at the lower end start asking questions
It's not a foolproof system. It cannot identify that someone is say, a SD3 when they really are ranked lower, and are SD3 just because some manager promoted them because they were white. Though such skill imbalances tend to make themselves well known rather quickly.
The Republican creed: We must promote intersectional bullshit in order to foment racial and ethnic tensions, divide the population into groups all trying to out-victim the other, then use that to stay in power in collusion with banksters. To make sure that works, we must excoriate any member of a victim class who dares not to vote against their own interests.
FTFY - AKA, The southern strategy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
The **Democrat** creed...
Create the KKK
"Founded in 1866, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for blacks. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through **Democratic** victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s"
Fixed THAT for ya...
http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan
The Republicrat Creed, divide and conquer, who gives a shit about liberty.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
It's also bizarre to use your slashdot handle on an application.
Slashdot should fully support this, but as usual accusations of racism triggered most of the posters and mods. This angle is probably the best way you can fight back against H1B abuse, but the programmed Pavlovian response is hard to overcome.
Or perhaps most of us would rather problems with H1B abuse be solved directly rather than through underhanded identity politics. That way madness lies.
Trump's popularity with white males was in no small part because he appealed to their sense of victimhood. Jobs stolen by immigrants, minorities given priority at their expense, constantly accused of being racist and sexist. It's standard alt-right doctrine, and the narrative running through everything of Breitbart which we know is Trump's favourite source of news (being a prolific tweeter has some benefits).
That's the right's creed now. White men are oppressed, so should vote for a white male bigot like Trump who will look out for them. All progressive policies, all attempts to eliminate racism and sexism are just schemes to oppress white people and silence free speech, and the vast SJW army must be defeated by electing someone like Trump who doesn't give a shit about imitating disabled reporters or grabbing women by the genitals. The establishment itself is reverse-racist! Quick, appoint some white supremacists to his staff!
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
You know that Trump has four, that's right FOUR senior cabinet members who are ex-Goldman Sachs ? Tell me again how republicans don't suck bankster cock.
Unicode killed the ASCII-art *
You must have the luxury of not being an Oracle customer.
But sure, let's hold up Trump as the absolute peak of racism.
I wrote Trump administration, not Trump himself. His cabinet picks and followers are the peak of racism. As for Trump himself, his outreach to black people from safe white neighborhoods was too funny.