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Ask Slashdot: Why Do You Care About Tech Conferences?

An anonymous user is "just starting a programming career," and has several questions for Slashdot's readers: What exactly is the role of tech conferences? I always assumed they were mostly for exhibitors to pitch me things, but then what's in it for me? Am I just going there to network, or am I learning new cutting-edge techniques and getting enlightened by awesome training sessions? Or is it just a fun way to get a free trip to Las Vegas?

And then what's in it for my employer, who's paying to send me there? If my boss has to approve the cost of attending a conference, what's going to make him say yes? I mean, do employers really get enough value from that extra conference-only information to justify sending off their employees for several days of non-productivity? (Don't they know all that networking could lead me to job offers from other companies?)

It's always been a little intimidating the way people talk about conferences, like everyone already knows all about them, and drop the conference's name into the conversations like you should already know what it is. I always assumed people just attended only conferences for their current programming language or platform -- but is there more to it than that? What exactly is the big deal?

I'm struggling to even find the right metaphor for this -- is it a live interactive infomercial or a grand gathering of geeky good will? So leave your best answers in the comments. Why do you care about tech conferences?

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  1. Go to the conference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it's on your employer's dime.

    For you: fun, broadening, exposure to more of what the industry segment is about, chance to make connections which could prove valuable to your career, opportunities to attend technical seminars or paper presentations which will clue you in to what academia or standards groups are up to.

    For your employer: a way of rewarding selected employees with a nice perk, boosting their morale, gflying the company flag to keep up name recognition with others in the industry, giving them a chance to get a clue about what academia or standards groups are up to.

    1. Re:Go to the conference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And return to no work being done so now you are a week behind because you work for a bunch of inept fucktards who let tasks sit instead of doing any of them.

    2. Re:Go to the conference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      chance to make connections which could prove valuable to your career,

      Absolutely this bit. Don't underestimate the networking opportunities at these kinds of events. If you go for no other reason than just networking then it's still invaluable.

      If you're not good at networking, then practice and learn before you go.

    3. Re:Go to the conference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > How exactly do you "practice networking" if you never talk to people because you're an introvert and, you know, an actual nerd.

      Not by assuming it's impossible because "nerd".

      Ask a co-worker to coffee. Find out about an interesting project in a different area and ping them about finding out more.

    4. Re: Go to the conference by ruir · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Granted, you have conferences *and* conferences.
      Some like Web Summit, are just over hyped bullshit.
      Others, are pretty interesting.
      In the IT field, for instance vmworld, some security and Linux/FreeBSD conferences expose you to a variety of sessions and labs with all the new trends, and booths were you can pretty much talk with much of the hot vendors, with actual technicians and/or experienced old timers from pre-sales to talk with.

    5. Re:Go to the conference by jandersen · · Score: 2

      There may be a deeper value to a company on top of these: Networking. It is important for managers and sales people to have a good network, and looking to the world of science, it is perhaps even more important there; but scientists are less under the yoke of business demands, so can go to some serious nerd fests. The problem, I find, is that because engineering, and especially SW engineering, lies somewhere between business and science, the conferences that you will be allowed to take part in, will too often be what managers and sales people feel comfortable with, which often means that it is too flashy and too light on actual interest to an engineer, and as a result, the people you get to meet are less likely to be the ones you would like to talk to. All in all, conferences are potentially very valuable, but in practice often disappoint. Perhaps we, as engineers, need to be much louder (and more persuasive) about what we would actually like to do at conferences.

    6. Re:Go to the conference by ls671 · · Score: 2

      While at it, ask them for the root password to their environment.

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  2. I don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm old enough to remember a time where tech conferences were actually useful, when actual techies were present that actually knew about the tech.
    Of course, there were already salespeople there, as well. But both categories knew their stuff:

    One could actually learn something, get good information from insiders, pose and get immediate answers to relevant questions, access that was hard to get otherwise, in those days.

    But it has been decades since that state of things. I have stopped going to tech conferences when they started getting populated by junior sales folks and booth babes only. All you seem to get now is some bored young person handing you a flyer before losing eye contact and returning to whatever is more interesting on that smartphone screen. I'm making it a caricature, but that's what it feels like to someone like me..

    I can get that flyer as a PDF without leaving the office.. and a lot more information, online.. So why bother going to a conference?

    Cheers,
    Anonymous Old Grumpy

    1. Re:I don't by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

      One could actually learn something, get good information from insiders, pose and get immediate answers to relevant questions, access that was hard to get otherwise, in those days.

      Yes, that's the big difference. Going back maybe 15-20 years, if you wanted to learn a programming language, you bought a book or read the manual or help text that came with your compiler. We did have online programming communities to some extent, but they kept in touch through forums like bulletin boards or electronic mailing lists or Usenet groups. Discussions would take place over days or even weeks instead of the minutes or hours they often last nowadays. Those discussions were usually more civilised than a lot of online forums are today, but there were no YouTube videos of presentations by the key people who actually designed the languages and tools you were using, we had manually curated FAQs instead of the huge Q&A sites like Stack Overflow today, and so on.

      In that context, going to a conference meant an opportunity to meet the experts at the top of a given ecosystem, watch presentations on the next big things they were working on, and even pick up a copy of the new version of your favourite compiler to take back.

      Of course, today, we do have much better online channels. We can watch presentations on YouTube whenever we're ready. We can pose questions in forums and have a fair chance that more experienced programmers will answer them within minutes, and we can collaborate with other leaders in close to real time if we're in that expert position for some particular subject ourselves. We can share code snippets for peer review, download the latest tools, or upload our contributions to community projects. And we can do all of these things from the comfort of our own homes/offices, without worrying about where we're going to stay overnight, or who's going to look after the kids, or the frustration and abuse that is common with long distance travel in the 21st century.

      In short, most of the key advantages conferences used to have don't really matter any more, and business travel isn't what it used to be either. Some people argue that they're still worthwhile for "networking", whatever that means. I'm pretty sure I have far more opportunities to connect with other people who share my interests online today than any conference ever offered, though.

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    2. Re:I don't by shanen · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I knew that reply was going to be here, but I feel like you mostly wasted your thoughtful reply on an invisible AC.

      I would say the same thing, but perhaps too briefly as "Improvements in network communications have largely addressed the communications problems that technical conferences used to help with." You didn't mention bandwidth, but I think conferences have also become relatively slow mechanisms when it comes to information exchange. The logistical problems are the same as they ever were and require the same amounts of preparation and lead times. Only the marketing has gotten slicker (but shallower).

      Going meta again, but I think the question would have been more useful with some background about trends in attendance. Maybe they're bigger and better than ever and it's just me who's gotten jaded?

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    3. Re: I don't by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2

      A few of the booth babes are arrogant and resentful of the fact that men find them physically attractive.

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  3. Depends on the conference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    System level programmers (OS, codec, driver, browser, compiler, etc...) don't benefit much from conferences. But people closer to the IT level do. For example, I am a former system level developer and now am writing IT automation systems. Without conferences, I would lack access to resources of information from companies like Microsoft and Cisco regarding automation tools and APIs.

    A great example would be Powershell DSC which is like Puppet, Chef or Ansible but likely to be supported for the next 20 years. Powershell DSC has tons of documentation, but there is no training or structured books on the topic which are relevant to current versions.

    I can spend 1000 hours figuring it out or I can go to Microsoft Build or Ignite and corner a developer from the team and get it spelled out to me in 10 minutes.

    While I'm at the show, I can learn that 125,000 lines of code and 6 months of work I have planned for the year which I'll have to support already exists but isn't obvious where it could be found.

    So, for $10,000 for plane tickets, hotel, food, show entrance, etc... I can probably save my company $100,000.

    Oh, and of course while I'm there, I can build my social network and find like minded individuals.

    1. Re:Depends on the conference by tigersha · · Score: 2

      The conferences also give you a heads-up in the direction and new features products go. I have attended talks about things that makes me understand better WHY a product was designed the way it was, the sort of thing you would not get from a manual

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    2. Re:Depends on the conference by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm a kernel developer and things like X.Org Developer's Conference and Embedded Linux Conference are pretty useful for me to go to, and for the same reasons you cited. Also, we get to meet other vendors and get contacts to start things like plugfests.

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  4. Knowledge by MasseKid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's all about knowledge. The technical talks are rarely, if ever worth attending. Let's face it, now one is going to give out trade secrets in those things. At best, they are a minor muse towards how you could do something. The real benefits in conferences is seeing things you didn't know existed. Do you need a 10+2 1/10G ethernet, mil-rugged, layer 3 switch in a forum factor the size off your fist? If you do, then hell knowing the right company is the difference between a project going bust and making it. Conferences are about sharing knowledge of the technology that exists that you don't know about, not about saving costs on commodity items. No one is going to go to a conference and say "zomg, I just saved my company 50% on the price of steel!".

    1. Re:Knowledge by aldousd666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      True, but you're speaking only from a hardware perspective. I have been to 'good conferences' where they have talks that spark me to research new ideas that eventually lead to productive lines of inquiry (RailsConf or in a previous life, PDC) and ones that are just advertisements or feature "Touchy Feely" talks about programmer sentiment and egos (RubyConf, total Yuck.) The ones that make me think, or research, are worth it. Even some of the keynotes (RailsConf 2016, keynote by Paul Lamere, from Spotify, fired my imagination and prompted me to take 6 months of courses on Big Data and Machine learning, which will eventually pay my employer dividends and then some,) by big names in their fields are worth the entire costs. It just means you need to know where to go, and what to look for, and what to avoid. Talks about diversity for the sake of coloration, or whatever, are little more than rants about unfairness, which leads to nothing company 'costs' if you buy in to them. But ones about how they take advantage of technologies (like one I saw [by a woman, speaking of diversity, which didn't even mention the fact that she was a woman -- BECAUSE THAT ISN'T THE IMPORTANT PART] about how Github used the Scientist gem to migrate their entire security structure without any downtime...) they can lead to local 'breakthroughs.' My advice is to stay away from 'touchy feely' conferences about developers and how they 'feel' at work, and to go to those that focus on the actual state of technology and what's out there and how to use it for your own personal, professional, and business's growth. Being around people who care about the same things, especially when those things are putting numbers on the board, is a great thing. NOT ALL CONFERENCES ARE CREATED EQUAL. That's just how it is. Do your research up front.

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  5. A step back to see the big picture by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the days of going to tech conferences just to see vendors are long gone. Most I've been to have either a handful or no vendors.

    The reason I like going to tech conferences, is actually to take a step back from day to day work in the industry and think about larger trends. Where is your field going? What is the leading edge of things being done? Do you agree with the common assessment about ways to approach solving problems?

    Basically, to think and inspire new ideas...

    Also of course there are the people. You can't really know until you get to any given conference what the people that attend are like, but to to as many people as you can. The parties (if they are parties) are nice, but more spectacle and harder to talk to people at - find people between sessions and talk to them, just say hi and ask them what they are working on and why they are there.

    When I say talk to as many as you can, listen to Clint Eastwoon and "know your limitations". For a lot of us social interaction is draining so if you've maxed yours out, don't feel bad not chatting for a while. Do what you can.

    These days more and more content is online or streamed so there may not be as much reason to go. But it's still good to just have that break from work and routine, otherwise the videos may be there but you will not watch them or really pay attention they way you do if you are there.

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  6. Back in the day it was a vacation by Snotnose · · Score: 3, Informative

    It was a reward for getting stuff done.

    In the 80's I wanted to go to a Usenix conference in Mission Valley. Boss said "why would I send you there". Me: "because for the past 3 years you've sent me to a week long conference in Vegas that I didn't want to go to and couldn't contribute". Boss: "But your good at what you do (telemetry), and I thought you liked those trips. Me: I don't gamble, I don't deal with customers well, I hate crowds. Boss: No.

    Ended up paying the entrance fee myself and taking vacation days.

    Did I mention Mission Valley was 10 miles from my condo? No airfare, no hotel, no food chits? Something like $60 and a couple days off, and I learned more at that damned USENIX than I did in 8 years of that stupid show in Vegas.

    Best show? Got an all expense paid show to New Orleans, before Katrina. What sucked? Took the wife. I'd do the show, get to the hotel, and say "Ya know, I'd like to see foo" . Her response? "I saw foo yesterday, what else do you wanna see?".

    Of course, back then companies would reserve 3-5 airplane seats 6 months in advance, then a couple days before the show decide who got to go. That all ended well before 9/11 when airlines decided they could charge fees for changes.

  7. Here are the criteria I use to tell if I care by El+Cubano · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've gone to quite a few different events (both as an attendee and as a speaker), including free events, pricey events, events where I went for my own reasons, events where I went for an employer or a client, etc.

    Here are the criteria I have found that help me judge whether I should really care about the specific conference:

    • Cost: cheaper is better, because if the event costs $$$ to attend you know you are getting the business-only crowd where most of them have expense accounts, or plenty of manager-types, or any of a number of other elements that make the conference decidedly less "tech" (sweet spot is $0-$100)
    • Size: too small and you might not get much out of it, too big and you definitely won't get much out of it (sweet spot: 100-1000 attendees, though the number of sessions, tracks, etc., plays an important role as well)
    • Schedule: if it is on a weekend, you know it is all about people who love/enjoy the topic so much that they give up their own free time to hang out with a bunch of other people who are similarly inclined; if it is during the week it is an expensable business boondoggle, though there are some exceptions that I can think of, like DebConf (sweet spot: weekend events)
    • Bonus: If John "Maddog" will be there, you probably want to go, and if he will be speaking (as he often does) you would be a fool to miss it

    For me, this mostly means that I end up attending events that resemble meetups, Linuxfest-type, coding workshops, hackathons, etc. While some of them do have vendors, the type of events which I favor make it pretty easy to stick to the "interesting" parts and avoid the vendors altogether.

    Of course, if you want to just go and socialize, just about any event will end up with groups of people that skip all the sessions and do nothing but talk.

  8. Depends on the community by Natales · · Score: 2

    If you go to a conference that is part of an active community, the biggest benefit IMHO is the human networking. Get to mingle with people who share your interests, values and ideas, and learn from others, teach what you know, and just get to have interesting discussions that can influence the direction of the project.

    In my 29 years in the industry, I've attended many, many conferences. They all have their peak years and peak value, until they don't. Some communities just grow too large and become too broad. Networld+InterOp was one of my favorites to attend back in the 90s, but they grew too much and became too dominated by vendors. Sadly, the same has been going on with the OpenStack community in recent years, with the additional annoyance of petty fights about direction.

    The folks at the Cloud Foundry Foundation keep their conferences deliberately small and targeted to the core audience, which makes them much more enjoyable, although it becomes harder to get talks accepted.

    And let's face it, some conferences (particularly vendor conferences) are not very valuable, but they throw great parties, with lots of swag, free booze and just plain fun with single-serving friends. Those also have their niche, and there is nothing wrong with that either.

    Just be clear what do you (or your employer) want to get out of the conference and go from there.

  9. All of those things and more by Rophuine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > Am I just going there to network, or am I learning new cutting-edge techniques and getting enlightened by awesome training sessions? Or is it just a fun way to get a free trip to Las Vegas?

    Yes. You're going there to network - not just with companies who might hire you away, but with potential future colleagues you might help to recruit. You're going to talk to other attendees about what they're doing, compare notes on what works and what doesn't, and meet subject-matter experts who you can tweet if you get stuck. You're going to get invited to the local tech community Slack, where you can do all of the above (and more) even after the conference is over.

    You might well be enlightened by the sessions - you'll probably run into at least a few things you didn't know about before. You're unlikely to learn all the details, but you'll at least find out that the thing exists, and probably enough information to decide whether it's worth investigating further at work (or away from work). Speaking of away from work, it's likely to pique your interest about things which aren't relevant at work (yet), possibly enough that you'll investigate them on your own time.

    The free trip to Vegas (/ wherever) shouldn't be ignored. Having a good time, and associating that good time with work having paid for it, shouldn't be under-valued - it's likely to be reflected in your productivity and loyalty.

    Many of these things are great for your employer as well as for you. What manager doesn't want a team filled with well-connected, loyal, enthusiastic developers who are interested in the latest developments in tech and may well do some learning on their own time as well?

  10. Most are shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is a HUGE industry for putting on conferences. I work for a guy who does this as an additional job 3 months out of the year and pulls in $100k for about 50 hours of work organizing it.

    The vast majority of conferences are built on this:

    1. someone wants to make bank by charging companies 300-1000$ per visit (which is chump change), so they put out a call for "experts";
    2. "experts" send in proposals (often paying 3000-7000$ for prime speaking slots), but the funny part is, you don't HAVE to be expert. There is almost zero vetting of speakers.
    3. These "experts" get to put a line item on their LinkedIn that says "Speaker at Conference X Y Z".
    4. Audience members are usually clueless, and there is very much a "rock star" aura where the audience thinks the person on stage is some kind of authority. Truth be told, most speakers don't know about their topic until a few months before and they just send a proposal and learn on the fly. VERY FEW ARE EXPERTS. (I know this because I have spoken at several, and I've joked with other speakers about how we pulled the title out of our butts, slapped together some slides after googling, and got our company to pay the speaker fee.)
    5. Audience members tell their manager that there is some conference with a name related to their job, and since it is basically a free vacation most employees get per year, blammo, $1k entry fee done and done

    So you get a few dudes pumping money into marketing for a bogus new conference, you get half-assed "experts" who want to pad their resumes, and you get somnambulistic cube-drones getting their corps to shell out for an overpriced ticket to a mediocre event so they can have a half-assed vacation.

    The content is shit, the organizers make a fucking FORTUNE, and the speakers get a gold star on their resume regardless of how little they know.

    There are some good ones, like SigGraph and ISCCC but the vast majority are shit.

  11. Re:obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it's just an opportinity for the middle management to get drunk with their buddies. You can literally get all the product information, customer experience stories and analyses from the Internet. Hell, often even before the conferences. In my opinion there are very few cases where such trips are useful and justified anymore.

    Ignore all the conference bs and just be fucking awesome in your own area of expertise.

  12. Simple by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Easy credits to keep my certifications.

    You see, to retain security certifications, you either have to show some training, or some publication, or you have to go to security conferences.

    Take a wild guess what's the easy way out.

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  13. Re:Conferences are an investment in your employees by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    And if that's what you hire, that's what you get.

    I know, there is this story floating that companies only hire the cheapest idiots for the jobs, and yes, those companies exist. And as usual, you get what you pay for. Just like when you buy the cheapest, crookedest hardware, what you get is an insecure mess that may or may not work for more than the warranty period requires.

    I hire quality, I pay for quality and I get quality. I expect a lot and I offer a lot. So far I haven't met a developer or security person whose willingness to learn surpassed my willingness to send him to a SANS or ICS course.

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  14. Re:obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    P.S. I wont come back to read an answer, so you can continue to write nonsense.

    Ouch, a hit-and-run comment! I can only assume my comment hit your soft spot. You must be among the middle management I mentioned. You can try to fool yourself, but you can't fool me.

  15. Re:obvious by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In your office it is very easy to get stuck with your own way of doing things and your companies approved products. You could be suffering at your job and you don't know it. Going to these conferences even just visiting the sales booths you get to see what else is out there and how to approach a problem differently. Realizing you may need a new class of products to stay competitive. That is companies pay for people to go to these. Also it gives your company exposure too. Sometimes those vendors may not sell anything to you but can become a partner were you can both expand the customer base.

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  16. Re:If you have to ask... by ruir · · Score: 4, Informative

    I had the luck to work for a consulting outfit where my direct manager sent me to all conferences he could (actually several a year), to in his words "broaden my horizons". After all his years, I am the proof he was right.
    While sending guys early in his career does not seem beneficial, believe me it is. He helped me achieve a certain place, and in exchange, I also helped the firm secure several businesses in a market abroad.

  17. My take by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2

    What exactly is the role of tech conferences?

    To establish new business connections. To discover new trends/solutions/ideas which you might have missed due to being busy. To talk to your purveyors and discuss the things in person which are difficult to discuss over the phone/e-mail.

    And then what's in it for my employer, who's paying to send me there?

    Likewise.

  18. I've been to that one. It's called Internext by raymorris · · Score: 2

    I've been to an industry conference which included Ron Jeremy shooting a porno at one of the after parties. It's called Internext (formerly IA2000). It's the online porn convention. The booth babes aren't random models hired for the show, they are the porn stars who actually work for (and occasionally own) the companies at the booths. Everybody who was anybody in porn was there. (This was several years ago, I don't know what attendance is like now.)

    One year, they had us split between two conference rooms at opposite ends of the casino, so to get from one session to the next 1,000 porn people, including a couple hundred models, would walk in masse through the casino to the other conference room. The looks we got from some of the casino patrons were priceless.

  19. Two words by DougDot · · Score: 2

    Booth Babes.