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Amazon To Build Homeless Shelter In Its New Seattle Headquarters (cnn.com)
Amazon is trying to do its part to help the homelessness problem in its hometown of Seattle. The company announced on Wednesday that it would donate more than 47,000 square feet of space within its newest Seattle headquarters building as a permanent location to house homeless people. CNNMoney reports: "Mary's Place does incredible, life-saving work every day for women, children, and families experiencing homelessness in the Seattle community," Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos said in a statement. "We are lucky to count them as neighbors and thrilled to offer them a permanent home within our downtown Seattle headquarters." Amazon is partnering with local nonprofit Mary's Place to create 65 rooms, which will house more than 200 homeless people every night. The new Mary's Place shelter will open in early 2020. It will also have a resource center like those the nonprofit offers in North Seattle and White Center, where 40-plus local nonprofits and volunteers work with staff to help families obtain employment and permanent housing.
5 hobos for the price of 3 (for opening day only). Or is Bezos using them as guinea pigs for manned missions?
"...life-saving work every day for women, children, and families experiencing homelessness..."
Well, at least men got included as long as they support a family. Wouldn't want all of those useless, disposable freeloading homeless men taking up a shelter slot.
Is that what they're calling employee housing nowadays?
I wonder how many of its own employees will take advantage of this.
Amazon could pay a living wage!
Good work, Amazon! Not often do we see companies supplying housing for their employees! Kudos!
They're exiled Establishment Republicans who didn't support Trump in the 2016 election.
They are trying to save face. If they really gave a shit, they would invest in the actual community. They are pathetic, they are clowns. See if you can find the video on youtube where they try to give a homeless guy a Windows lap top at the Apple store. That is probably closer to the truth.
amazon is running a company town, just like in days of yore
As a homeless man you're only worth something if there's a family attached to you.
Isn't male privilege great!
Some homeless are that by choice or by some psychological inability to stay put. For others it is the problem of affordability. It only makes sense to offer permanent shelter to the last category — to people, who want a permanent place, but can not pay for it.
Now, why would not Amazon suggest to and outright push those people into jobs at Amazon? Warehouse workers make about $13/hour? And how will these shelters then be different from workers' dormitories?
Personally I don't see anything wrong with it — as long as no one is forced into these shelters, but that's just what might happen, if authorities start picking up homeless pushing them into such facilities to pretty-up the streets. Which would make these people into something unnervingly close to slaves...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Seattle is homeless heaven. There are hundreds of them living in tents on the highway medians and sidewalks. Mostly men.
Hey Amazon: They need a huge one in Portland Oregon too. I visited once and haven't seen so many homeless people in my life.
Amazon is partnering with local nonprofit Mary's Place to create 65 rooms, which will house more than 200 homeless people every night. The new Mary's Place shelter will open in early 2020.
But this will have no effect on the homeless population until 2020, how does this help the homeless community today?
Ken
Amazon interns will have first hand work experience at packing homeless people into boxes for shipment as robots drag them off the streets.
Didn't trump just make America great again? How can we still have homeless people?
As noted, this won't be available until 2020, just as President Trump is up for re-election, two years after Democrats "take back the congress" in the 2018 mid-term.
Ken
Of course men. Women have a valuable commodity they can trade for food/shelter/sugar daddy. I see them doing this as a tax write-off. Why not give them jobs? Even if it's a yard worker or garbage picker upper.
It's only about using a Federal government distinction to create a city/state/Federal tax dodge.
I guess they'll only have to do deliveries during the days
cheaper than drones !
(sorry)
You are assuming they would want a job as a yard worker or garbage picker upper. They have a specialized skillset and will not settle for such menial jobs.
No matter where you go, there you are.
Already have slaves. We just call them "starving artists", and pay a pittance, plus mercilessly pirate from them.
Because a good portion of them are not capable of holding a job and those that could are not really looking for a job.
However the people running the place that Amazon is giving land/building to run a long term housing and training charity. So as a mother with child if you are being abused you have a place to get to that will provide a long term bed/food, along with child care, etc or you can be a family that had financial issues and they will do the same. Don't know about this group but with others I had donated to they required that you get a job, take evening classes, and donate time.
Obama kept blaming Bush for seven year, so give trump at least 2-3 years to fix the problems of obama.
200 people every night? Like they have to stand in line every night to get a bed? This is one reason that all the temporary shelter solutions don't work. Every evening, the homeless have to stand in line for the chance at getting a place. And every morning they get tossed back out on the street. And maybe they don't get one, so they have to find a warm doorway quickly. Pretty soon they just say, "Fuck it. Not worth the trouble." And move back under the freeway where they can stake out a (relatively) permanent campsite.
Have gnu, will travel.
I sold my soul to the company store...
We call this an insane asylum. Let's see if Bezos can come up with a workable new way of running something like this. He might surprise us.
Good one, if you got more bombs like that you have a stand-up program going. Maybe try to tie-in a routine around suggesting them paying their company taxes instead of stashing it away into tax havens.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Problem is: in Seattle, Amazon is paying way more than a living wage and even the median wage; both have sharply risen due in part to Amazon. This has been one cause of the sharp increase in homelessness in Seattle (the others being drugs and mental illness).
Because the bumming in Seattle is so lucrative. No work, Drugs. A place to sleep. Doesn't get better than that.
when you got no job, any job is better
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Problem is: in Seattle, Amazon is paying way more than a living wage and even the median wage; both have sharply risen due in part to Amazon. This has been one cause of the sharp increase in homelessness in Seattle (the others being drugs and mental illness).
WAT?!
Sig. Sig. Sputnik
when you got no job, any job is better
Hiring managers are reluctant to hire higher-skilled people for minimum wage jobs because they know that people will leave when a better opportunity comes along. When I was out of work for two years, hiring managers told me I was overqualified for minimum wage jobs and recruiters told me I was unemployable for everything else. I ended up working for a moving company on the weekends for six months until I found another full-time job.
[...] so give trump at least 2-3 years to fix the problems of trump.
FTFY — Who knew that governing was so complicated for a businessman?
I'm not sure why I have to repeat what the other AC said, unless you're just stupid.
I'll give it a try, however. They pay more than the median income, which has caused an increase in expenses.
Surely, you're not stupid enough to think their new HQ is where they have their warehouse, are you? No, you couldn't be that stupid. Hmm... Perhaps you're being intentionally obtuse? No, that would make you a shitbag. You wouldn't be a shitbag, would you?
Anyhow, Reddit is probably more your style. You should go there.
Why don't they just build or expand a fulfillment center with sleeping quarters, showers & a mess hall? Then they could give the homeless people jobs in addition to shelter.
Didn't trump just make America great again? How can we still have homeless people?
If they live at Amazon, they aren't homeless. You see? American is great again, thanks to be big business.
Assuming the previous poster is referring to something real but just phrasing it awkwardly, I know what he is referring to.
Amazon and other tech companies pay more than the region's prior wage options. The employees want to live near work rather than have a 2 hour commute. Landlords raise their rates to somewhere between what the current residents can continue to pay and what the wealthier Amazon (and other) employees are willing to pay for that location. This leads to a glut of people who are unable to afford living where they used to and unwilling to move to more affordable areas.
Considering some of the housing arrangements I had in the past to make unemployment checks and dwindling bank account numbers last long enough to get a new job, I have trouble empathizing with that kind of refusal to search for opportunities.
Why not give them jobs?
You have a deep misunderstanding of what causes homelessness and why it is such an intractable problem. They are not "just like you and me" except without homes. Most homeless people have mental health issues, substance abuse issues, and are in general very dysfunctional people. If they were employable, then they wouldn't be homeless in the first place.
So that employees, customers and business contacts won't have to experience homeless people first hand.
This is how NYC real estate developers have managed requirements for affordable housing when they build developments targeted at the wealthy. A small, separate entrance with its own elevator to the floors with the few affordable rentals in the building is part of the building.
While I guess it's laudable to gesture by our e-commerce overlords, if they run the homeless people through an invisible side entrance to some otherwise deprecated space they don't use that just happens to be in the same building, it's hard not to think that there's a large amount of cynical motivation. Bezos gets to claim some kind of noble generosity, and Amazon gets a giant tax deduction on dead space in their building.
I can't help but think if it was really meant to do something about homelessness, Bezos would just outright fund a large hotel/dorm like structure that would offer long-term transitional housing for homeless people instead of temporary shelter, the kind of temporary home where they could get mail delivered, make phone calls, create resumes and do job searches, in addition to being fed and having a secure place to live.
As usual, the leftists are whining about Trump. Of course, leftist judges are trying to strike down anything Trump does. Liberals are also doing everything they can to discredit Trump with manufactured scandals. It's entirely reasonable that Comey was fired for factors that have no relation to the Russia investigation, but the left won't admit this. This is a great example of why government should leave businesses alone. If you don't force ridiculous regulations on people, this shows that businesses will take the initiative to help people on their own. Despite the left's hatred of businesses and prosperity, this proves that businesses will go out of their way to help the poor when they aren't being raided by ridiculous taxes.
- snruter rotsac
Oh, he's close. Just missing things by a few blocks. Down the street from Amazon is the Allen Brain Institute.
Brain. Institute.
Once they take your brain (for science, of course), your only options are either the homeless shelter or politics. The vast majority of people, even after being pithed, would apparently prefer homelessness rather than politics.
There is some hope for mankind.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Most chronic homelessness is caused by mental illness and addictions. Instead of putting up shelters, why not spend a little extra and reopen public mental hospitals? Before the deinstitutionalization movement in the 70s, states had huge mental health treatment systems in place. Admittedly, part of that was because there was nothing that could be done to treat mental illness before the 50s and the only thing to do was to lock them away. But, we've seen that treatment isn't 100% effective, people relapse, they self-medicate with drugs and alcohol, etc. Why not operate facilities where people who need treatment can be placed until they're stable enough to actually live in the community?
I guess those Night Train Express Dash buttons finally found a home.
Oh boy, I bet Amazon's lawyers and insurance carriers are throwing a tantrum over this. Imagine all that space filled with down and out folks who are going to experience "falls" and other "incidents" due to Amazon's "failure to maintain a safe environment." Seattle has a lot of personal injury lawyers who are going to enjoy a feeding frenzy. What is it they say about "best of intentions"?
This is great for the homeless population, but for those that aren't employed by high-tech. They just can't afford to live in Seattle anymore. Teachers, fire-fighters, police, food service workers, etc can't afford to pay $2000 for a 1bedroom apartment. What we all saw in SanFrancisco/Silicon Valley area, is happening in Seattle.
Hope these high tech workers don't plan on having kids, there will be nobody to teach them. Maybe Amazon can buy Khan Academy and launch Amazon-School. "Alexa, teach my child to read."
Ahahaha how bloody deluded are you?
The left are made up of companies like Amazon. Sure some companies who have even slight care for the world might do this but where are examples or any of Tumps businesses doing anything good? Or any big banks? Or any non "left" company? I suspect you'll be stumped on that for a while...
I find it very difficult to reason with people like you, as it's been said “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience”. But seriously try and use some logical reasoning to the Comey situation. This is a man who basically won Trump the electing with last minute revelations about Hilary and someone who Trump has had enormous amounts of praise for. That was until Trump and his fellow cronies were the ones being investigated, this reeks of what happened with Nixon.
Pushing reasonable policies is a new way of wording screwing working Americans out of everything they've worked for a giving Trumps buddies a few extra millions.
They needed more interns and this was the cheapest solution
People who are not communists?
By problems do you mean progress? I think Trump can regress the progress Obama made to bring America out of being a third-world country in no time at all. He's already undone a lot of progress even in his first couple of months and he and his cronies have got lots of other ways of screwing everyone else over up their sleeves.
Along with this and Paul Allen's donation to fight homelessness, the city can make homelessness and panhandling illegal and the streets of Seattle will be free of hobos once again!
Can Amazonians wear trash bags and burlap sacks to work now?
Yeah, we know. Well, we know that is what you tell us. Only you know if it is the truth.
He hasn't undone a damned thing, yet. Go to Reddit. This is where the adults talk.
Bullshit. Hiring managers know that minimum wage jobs are high-turnover bullshit assignments that nobody wants to do in the first place, and will hire anybody with a pulse to fill them, because that's all that's required - a pulse, and a guarantee that MOST days you won't shit your pants on the clock.
That's why they pay the MINIMUM WAGE - they're not worried that "Ermahgerd, my burger flipper is going to go become an astrophysics professor at Stanford, and THEN what will I do?"
The answer to that is, of course, "I will hire another mouth-breathing desperate troglodyte to flip the burgers, and my business will continue to run just as smoothly as it ever has."
Minimum wage jobs are minimum wage jobs because there are literally no qualifications for them that anybody with a functioning brain and a non-vegetative IQ can perform.
What specialized skillset? About the most technical thing they can do is inject heroin.
Truly stupid. Epic.
and during the day, thay can help with warehouse operations? Brilliant Bezos!
Bullshit.
No bullshit. There was seven applicants for every job opening when I was out of work for two years. Hiring managers and recruiters would only hire people who had still had a job, writing everyone else off. When I got my full-time job in mid-2011, there was three applicants for every job opening, When hiring managers and recruiters couldn't fill out the head count, they started hiring anyone they could find. I spent the next two years working seven days a week.
. . .we do what we must, because we can. . . .
For the good, of all of us. . .
Well, the ones that own stock. . .
Question is, when will Prime deliver via Amazon Science Portable Hand-held Portal Devices ???
The problem is that a lot of the homeless are mentally ill and can't hold any job.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
Yeah, we know. Well, we know that is what you tell us. Only you know if it is the truth.
It's on the Internet, so it must be true.
Discriminating is not "equal opportunity" at all. When nationally 80% of the homeless population is men, having a program which discriminates against men is flat out evil. That you attempt to claim discrimination is fine because "bogey man" makes you evil.
Real numbers show that gender discrimination is not a problem in the workplace. 61% of all college graduates are Women who are _CHOOSING_ not to go into STEM jobs. The graduation numbers have favored women for well over a decade, and were pretty close for the prior 20 years. The wage gap has been debunked so frequently that you must be mentally handicapped to still believe it. That is not a joke. You should seek immediate psychological help and ask the doctor to consider some strong medication (Thorazine) because you simply ignore reality to support a delusion. Worse, using that delusion to discriminate against people.
Your sig makes it perfectly clear that you are a SJW troll.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
By adults do you mean people who don't have a freaking clue what they're talking about, or is that just you? Repealing regulations and cancelling trade agreements are classed as not doing a damned thing, are they?
I spent the next two years working seven days a week.
But you've always had contracts that forbade overtime and limited you to 40 hours a week. So you were working 5-1/2 hours a day then?
So for two years, every job you applied for, you managed to put yourself at the bottom of the list of hires? Interesting - do you think there's a common thread there, tubby? Like, maybe, you come across as an obnoxious twat to every hiring manager you meet?
Unemployment in California peaked around 12.5% during the great recession. That's a challenging job market, but it's not an impossible one. If it took you TWO YEARS - as a relatively low-skilled worker - to find a job, it says more about how you present yourself and interact with people than it does about hiring managers having some sort of hidden criteria that made it impossible for you to find a job.
So you mean to say that once employers had hired *literally* everybody else they could tolerate more than they could tolerate you, EVEN YOU were able to find a job? That's great!
Unfortunately, irrelevant to your point. Hiring managers for minimum wage jobs are not concerned about turnover - they understand that it's a shit job with low wages, and that there will be *constant* turnover in those jobs. Recruiters saying "you're overqualified for these jobs" is sort of like your grandma saying, "You're such a handsome boy, you're just big boned, not fat!" She HAS to say it because she doesn't want to make you feel bad. The truth is, you ARE NOT overqualified, you're just an insufferable prick with delusions of competency.
The job criteria isn't picky, but when you have a line of hungry peasants desperate for one of the musical chairs in the paycheck club, you get to be picky out of sheer glut.
So your tangential rant is mostly informative about your mind, and suggestive of other hyped-up inaccuracies you have in there.
I'm aware of any mild irony in my own exaggerated emphasis up there, but a little hyperbole is arguably a communication aid when the point still stands: Yes they're "reluctant".
But you've always had contracts that forbade overtime and limited you to 40 hours a week. So you were working 5-1/2 hours a day then?
I was working for three contracting agencies during that time. A weekday assignment with the prohibition not to work more than 40 hours a week for that contracting agency. A weekend assignment that could start on Friday night from one of the two other contracting agencies.
Like many of my coworkers today, I work 40 hours for my weekday job and another 40 hours for my side business.
By adults I assume you mean people who don't have a clue what they're talking about. That certainly covers your rather accurately. Or does repealing business regulation and cancelling trade agreements amount to nothing? Oh and ushering in a new era of racism and division has got to count for something.
>if they were employable
How circular can you get?
You're obviously a basement neckbeard, because if you had anything better to do than ACing on internet forums, then you wouldn't be here in the first place.
man ... who's sunning himself on a public lawn and masturbating to a magazine
And how is that bad? Yes, it is probably neither pretty, nor stimulating. But as long as he isn't harming anyone, why do you even care?
if the liberals didn't crush incomes with extortionate taxes and corruption. Funny how they cause more problems than solve them with their idiotic taxes and red tape.
Pax Vobiscum
I have played too much Shadowrun to think this can be anything good.
Like, maybe, you come across as an obnoxious twat to every hiring manager you meet?
Nope. I wasn't hired because I wasn't working. Discrimination against the unemployed was a huge problem in 2009-10.
So you mean to say that once employers had hired *literally* everybody else they could tolerate more than they could tolerate you, EVEN YOU were able to find a job? That's great!
When the economy turned around in mid-2011, there was fewer working people looking for jobs and employers had to hire unemployed people to fill out the head counts.
Recruiters saying "you're overqualified for these jobs"
Hiring managers were telling me that I was "overqualified" for their minimum wage jobs. Recruiters were telling me I was "unemployable" for anything else. They were wrong. From 2011 to 2013, I worked seven days a week for 30+ short- and long-term assignments.
I think we can handle it.
Men, at least stereotypically, have better survival skills and can live in a tent somewhere while they do temp construction work to afford a shitty apartment where they can then live while they get hired on full-time at a fast-food restaurant.
Some men of course have mental illness and/or addiction and that is relevant.
I think we need more money for men's rehabilitative services...well all aspects of homeless services need more money, but men are more likely to be street addicts or homeless metally ill and that needs to be addressed
Thank you Dave Raggett
Didn't trump just make America great again? How can we still have homeless people?
Because Seattle is a Progressive/Leftist hellhole that drives businesses and jobs away leaving people unemployed & homeless, for which the leftists then promptly blame the businesses and investors instead of their own insane and self-defeating policies.
Seattle got their homelessness problem the old-fashioned way....they *earned* it! As the Progressive controlled cities of Detroit and Chicago so clearly demonstrate, Progressivism kills freedom, jobs, economies, and the dreams of future generations,
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Original AC here. Yes, you are correct. My vaguely worded post, written prior to caffeination, seemed to blame solely Amazon for the homeless problem, which is not accurate.
Rather, it's like you said: Amazon and other tech (and non tech) companies have been paying above the median wage. As more people come in and get paid the higher wage, the median wage (and livable wage) goes up; currently in Seattle, $60k is livable, $80k is median, unheard of even 5 years ago. With the higher median wage, landlords charge more (supply and demand, albeit with a badly suppressed supply due to the remnants of "Lesser Seattlites"). Meanwhile, the people who were at the median wage are no longer median wage or even livable wage anymore.
The people at the bottom are getting pushed out of their housing and have nowhere to go. Most leave; some to other cities, some to other states. A small, but significant portion stay and try to keep their jobs (mostly service industry: cooks, bartenders, etc), while maintaining a homeless life in RVs and a few in tents. For these people, their job is all they have. Some can't afford to move to a cheaper city and hope they get a job there quickly so they can afford housing.
Unfortunately, these people get unfairly lumped into the homeless drug addicts and mentally ill and shit all over by everyone.
Amazon's homeless shelter won't make a dent in the homeless problem, but it's a step in the right direction. And I never thought I'd say this, but: good on Amazon. I hope this is a trend in Seattle. Next step is to start providing mental health and drug addiction services for the remainder of the homeless. We may just keep up with the rest of the first world.
Because Seattle is a Progressive/Leftist hellhole
Ok, so what's Trump going to do about these Progresisve/leftist hellholes? They are still a part of America that Trump said he would make great
Or is this just an amusingly ironic attempt at whataboutism?
Problem is: in Seattle, Amazon is paying way more than a living wage and even the median wage; both have sharply risen due in part to Amazon. This has been one cause of the sharp increase in homelessness in Seattle (the others being drugs and mental illness).
So, your theory is: a company paying its employees more causes poverty. Really? That's what you're going with?
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Try again. Chicago's main problem is a history of rampant corruption. And Detroit's poverty is largely the result of white flight in the 1970s, which was largely a reaction to race riots. Besides, Detroit didn't turn so strongly Democrat until the late 1980s—significantly after it became relatively poor. If anything, the progressive control was a direct reaction to the city's problems.
Seattle's high number of homeless is largely a result of climate. It is one of the few areas in the country where it almost never gets too cold at night to live out on the streets. As a result of the relatively good weather (though possibly exacerbated by broad availability of various support services), lots of homeless people from other parts of the country end up on the western coast.
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Detroit hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1962. Chicago hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1931.
All of your employees will have a place to live now.
Wrong. That's not what "feminism" is...and it's not what progressive policies are based on.
Well, I'll grant you that if you are a GOPer/Conservative who willfully misrepresents what "feminism" is then your definition is the approved definition from your overlords.
Thank you Dave Raggett
Free bananas too?
So why not retrain them to be a phlebotomist? Because anybody that has dealt with a shitty one knows not just anybody can hit a vein.
Most of the homeless, including the mentally ill, would be happy to live in free housing, otherwise they wouldn't be going to shelters. Let's not throw up our hands and say "There's nothing to be done for these people short of locking them up!"
Never let a lack of data get in the way of a good rant.
And you could not fake your CV accordingly to the problem? You could not show yourself on paper as a less qualified person?
So, your theory is: a company paying its employees more causes poverty. Really?
No, he said it caused homelessness. If the cost of housing goes up because landlords/sellers can charge more because Amazon pays a premium, and your salary doesn't go up too, eventually you reach a point where you cannot afford to rent or buy a house and you become homeless. Your salary doesn't go down, but the amount of house you can get for that money drops drastically.
He may have put it poorly but there is some truth there.
There's a lot of homelessness in NYC and the overwhelming majority falls into two camps: those with mental issues and those with substance abuse issues. The percentage of able bodied and able minded people (is that a word?) who are homeless is a small.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
Of not taking care of the welfare of ALL our citizenry.
In California the majority of mentally ill homeless were in fact evicted as a result of defunding by Reagan in the 70s before he made it to the whitehouse, and then helped push similiar work across the country.
Go read up, it is an interesting and fucked up read.
And you could not fake your CV accordingly to the problem?
That would be unethical. If I have done that, it might have compromised my chances of getting a security clearance for my current job.
You could not show yourself on paper as a less qualified person?
I'm not my brother. He was out of work for two years as well. He committed perjury every two weeks by claiming he was looking for work. He was using his unemployment benefits to start a landscaping design business.
The mayor is not the only elected official in a city. In fact, it is arguably the least important.
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Repeat the myth, yet again.
When Reagan closed the loonie bins they were already empty as a result of the ACLU making the commitment procedures of the day, illegal. Not that I disagree with the ACLU. When government has the power to use the nut houses as political jails, it does.
Now please ignore this post and go on repeating some more mythology on another thread.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
If you're masturbating, you're not doing anything else.
Or, you know, you commute from farther away, like the rest of us, and look for a job close to where you now have to live.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
There are truly needy homeless people who want to have a home. Yes. Society should help elevate those who want to achieve.
But, most of the people you all are discussing are living their chosen lifestyle. So instead of feeling guilty about not doing enough to help them find shelter, realize that you are being played. Vagabonds, Bums, Travellers...all olde world words used to describe this manner of living since time immemorial.
Stop the flow of these losers by enforcing laws we already have on the books. And run them out to the city limits, or put them in the empty former jails where all the marijuana users were kept. If you eliminate these sponges, there will be plenty of resources to help the much smaller number of actual homeless people, and especially children.
So you spend forty hours a week writing these shit posts? For the "$50/month" in ads you claim to get?
You'd be better off working at...hell even a Chinese garment factory.
So lose two hundred of that #350 lard you roll yourself around in and quit posting this inane bullshit.
Pray tell - what fucking sort of "minimum wage" jobs are you applying for that they asked for, or reviewed, a CV?
I've worked minimum wage jobs, not a single one of them asked for anything more than "work history", showing that you've had (and held) jobs in the past - they don't much care what the jobs were, and not a single one of them ever told me, "Oh, you're a college student, we couldn't possibly hire you to make pizzas, because you're going to take all the highly desirable skills we'll teach you here, and take them to our competitors for more money!"
"Starting a business" isn't necessarily a disqualifying circumstance. As long as he:
1) "Looks for work";
2) "Doesn't work full time for his own company, even if it's unpaid";
3) "Declares any income he may receive from such work,";
There's no particular issue with collecting unemployment while you work on starting your own business.
You know, it is really easy to tell from the comments here, which people understood calculus and which didn't.
The latter group doesn't seem to recognize second order affects. If a large group seeks a scarce resource (downtown housing), they can't all get it. Some have to settle for marginal substitutes. Uptown, or the town over.
That drives prices up in those areas too, not as much as in downtown, but there is still a ripple affect, each of which have their own ripples
And the result is: life gets better for everyone. That's what happens when successful companies pay their employees more. Life is not a zero-sum game.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Pray tell - what fucking sort of "minimum wage" jobs are you applying for that they asked for, or reviewed, a CV?
Restaurant, retail and warehouse. I did these jobs before I started my technical career. Keep in mind that there were seven applicants for every job opening in 2009-10.
Starting a business" isn't necessarily a disqualifying circumstance. As long as he:
1) "Looks for work";
2) "Doesn't work full time for his own company, even if it's unpaid";
3) "Declares any income he may receive from such work,";
1) Nope
2) Nope
3) Nope
There's no particular issue with collecting unemployment while you work on starting your own business.
We had an uncle who ran his own landscaping business while his family collected welfare. Cash under the table. Never filed taxes in 30+ years. Lived as well as my father who worked 50 years for three generations of owners.
So you spend forty hours a week writing these shit posts?
Nope. Slashdot keeps me amused while I'm waiting for scripts to get done.
For the "$50/month" in ads you claim to get?
That's free money for something I'm already doing.
Didn't trump just make America great again? How can we still have homeless people?
Because Seattle is a Progressive/Leftist hellhole that drives businesses and jobs away leaving people unemployed & homeless, for which the leftists then promptly blame the businesses and investors instead of their own insane and self-defeating policies.
Seattle got their homelessness problem the old-fashioned way....they *earned* it! As the Progressive controlled cities of Detroit and Chicago so clearly demonstrate, Progressivism kills freedom, jobs, economies, and the dreams of future generations,
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The U.S biggest cities are NYC, LA, Chicago. Mind telling me how is it that the "conservative meccas of business" can't attract more businesses then these progressive hellholes? BTW the reason you hear about homelessness and other social issues in Progressive cities is because unlike the conservative hellholes we prefer to have a discussion about how to help those people instead of criminalizing homelessness so we can throw them in jail or force them out of town
Unfortunately, that seems to be as far as it gets, discussion.
That would be what a rational person would do, but Seattle is home to liberal thinking. If people can't afford to live there, charge the wealthy people building apartments more so you can build affordable housing. Never mind that this means higher building costs and less housing being built.
Building a homeless shelter means nothing. When they have numbers that show that they're contributing to the good of society *through* said homeless shelter, then we'll have reason to praise them.
They'll be annoyed at how many times they have to specify "I do not want free shipping" before they get their meals.
The mayor is not the only elected official in a city. In fact, it is arguably the least important.
There has not been a majority Republican *anything* of importance in Detroit or Wayne County governments in decades. Lived here all my life. Democrats own Detroit's (and Michigan's as well) problems lock, stock, and barrel. Republicans have had zero power in Detroit and Wayne Co. governments since before many if not most here were born.
Everyone on this thread is clearly unemployed & unemployable.