Disney Chief Bob Iger Says Hackers Claim To Have Stolen Upcoming Movie (hollywoodreporter.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Hollywood Reporter: Walt Disney CEO Bob Iger revealed Monday that hackers claiming to have access to a Disney movie threatened to release it unless the studio paid a ransom. Iger didn't disclose the name of the film, but said Disney is refusing to pay. The studio is working with federal investigators. Iger's comments came during a town hall meeting with ABC employees in New York City, according to multiple sources. The Disney chief said the hackers demanded that a huge sum be paid in Bitcoin. They said they would release five minutes of the film at first, and then in 20-minute chunks until their financial demands are met. While movie piracy has long been a scourge, ransoms appear to be a new twist. UPDATE: According to Deadline, the movie in question appears to be the upcoming film Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales. Disney appears to be working with the FBI and will not pay the ransom.

Comments

Is it documentary about Pluto?

[Anonymous Coward]

And it's status as a dog -- not a planet?

Re:Is it documentary about Pluto?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, after the success of "Sausage Party", Disney decided to put out some adult films. Based on the leaked scripts and storyboards, there is a bestiality scene with Pluto boning Minnie Mouse. Of course, is dog on mouse really bestiality?

that title

[0111 1110]

Could the title be interpreted as a threat to the hackers? I wonder if it was recently changed.

Re:that title

[ShanghaiBill]

Or maybe this is all a false flag operation.
Cui bono?
Disney is getting free publicity for the movie
A 5 or maybe a 20 minute segment will actually increase demand for the theater release.
My theory is that Disney made it all up and there was no real threat.

Confirmation will be when he goes for the patriotism angle by claiming the hackers are working for ISIS.
So if you view the pirated version of the pirate movie, you are supporting terrorism.
You heard it here first.

Re:that title

[stealth_finger]

Could the title be interpreted as a threat to the hackers? I wonder if it was recently changed.

No, I think it's just a generic pirate line to go with a generic pirate film. Disney haven't shown any actual imagination in a long while.

Piracy?

[halltk1983]

Too bad they already misappropriated the term piracy for online file sharing. This seems more fitting of the name. Ironic, given the content of the theft.

Re:Piracy?

[Anonymous Coward]

'Meaning "one who takes another's work without permission" first recorded 1701....sense of "unlicensed radio broadcaster" is from 1913.'

So it's meant copyright violation for 300+ years, but don't let the truth get in the way of a good pedantic argument over a commonly-understood word.

Re:Piracy?

[arth1]

'Meaning "one who takes another's work without permission" first recorded 1701....sense of "unlicensed radio broadcaster" is from 1913.'

So it's meant copyright violation for 300+ years,

That does not follow. The 1701 example says work, not idea or design. Using work as a noun to represent the physical fruits of labor goes back to the 13th century.

Re:Piracy?

[EzInKy]

Copyright was only for 14 years in 1701. One could renew for another 14 I think. Good incentive to motivate producers create new things I think.

Re:Piracy?

[king neckbeard]

Yes, because the Stationer's Company in 1701 was full of upstanding, principled and honest individuals who wouldn't dare appropriate a scary word for their own purposes. It's not as if their monopoly existed explicitly for the purposes of censorship and spreading propaganda. Oh wait, yes it did, and since it predates the 1710 Statute of Anne, which at least nominally claimed to be for "the advancement of learning," there's not even the slightest hint that they were above propaganda.

Parent's point isn't wrong just because it was misappropriated 300 years ago instead of more recently.

Re:Piracy?

[king neckbeard]

No, copyright was a guild monopoly so the crown could control printing presses. The nonsense about incentivizing creative works didn't come until the 1710 Statute of Anne.

Re:Piracy?

[CaseCrash]

Come on, give them some credit for standing up to blackmailers. Plus no-one who is going to see this in the theater is going to not do so now that they can see the movie 20 minutes at a time on their laptop.

Re:Piracy?

[Maxo-Texas]

He's talking about the original u.s. copyright which came much later.

http://www.arl.org/focus-areas...

Re:Piracy?

[king neckbeard]

It's also in line with the Statute of Anne. My point is that this comes from the era of the ORIGINAL copyright: A state-sponsored monopoly on speech.
That part is certainly relevant in regards to the conversation on whether or not the word was misappropriated.

Re:Piracy?

[91degrees]

But who cares? Pirates in the media are seen as heroic romantic figures. Jack Sparrow is very much a protagonist. Pirates of Penzance has a band of gentlemanly pirates. Even the villains like Captain Hook are presented as charismatic leaders.

And even if they weren't, nobody associates media pirates with historical pirates. The connection makes a good joke but that's about it.

Re:Piracy?

[dbIII]

I remember reading it in the forward of an edition of "Three Men in a Boat (not to mention the dog)" that came out not long after the first edition of 1889. The author was complaining about "Pirates" running a publishing company in Chicago that were printing and selling his book without him getting a cent. Clear copyright infringement.
That's not 1701 but it's still a while back.
Of course the reprint wasn't that old (it's still in print) but the forward is.

Re: Piracy?

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't copyright an idea, you copyright the work, as per your definition of work.

Re:Piracy?

[Anonymous Coward]

The nonsense about incentivizing creative works didn't come until the 1710 Statute of Anne.

Do you really think that films like Pirates of the Carribbean would exist if there was no copyright? Really?

Re:Piracy?

[king neckbeard]

The exact work? Probably not. In addition to lowering the total number of works published, copyright also tended to shift authorship from informative to fictional, since only the specific words are published, and thus rephrasing a scientific text allows a relatively trivial workaround.

So, we might have fewer blockbuster films (especially since we'd have competitive markets instead of oligopolies), but we'd probably be about 50 years ahead technologically by now, and more focused on learning. Of course, greater tech could mean greater standard of living, more education, and cheaper filmmaking, so perhaps we'd have even more well-produced films.

Re:Piracy?

[king neckbeard]

Nobody? People don't think that infringers are attacking ships, but they are trying to use the bad reputation of pirates as part of a propaganda campaign, since the numbers don't back them up. They also try to conflate infringement with theft, despite grossly different underlying economics.

Re:Piracy?

[91degrees]

Why would you watch it on your laptop? Some people have TVs. They make them with USB slots these days! Sometimes they even work with playlists.

Re:Piracy?

[Anonymous Coward]

So, we might have fewer blockbuster films (especially since we'd have competitive markets instead of oligopolies), but we'd probably be about 50 years ahead technologically by now, and more focused on learning. Of course, greater tech could mean greater standard of living, more education, and cheaper filmmaking, so perhaps we'd have even more well-produced films.

Your username suits you well.

Re: Piracy?

[arth1]

You don't copyright an idea, you copyright the work, as per your definition of work.

There's no mentioning of copying here, but taking.

Re:Piracy?

[Anonymous Coward]

Do you really think that is a bad thing?

We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Anonymous Coward]

If you can pirate a big name franchise before it hits theaters, but we still see huge ticket sales, then we can finally agree that piracy has no real impact on film profits.

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Master Moose]

I seem to remember this happening with "The Wolverine" many years ago. It still made $$. I'm sure it's universal panning has something to do with the early leak.

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Anonymous Coward]

Define "huge" ticket sales. Maybe without piracy the ticket sales could be higher. Or should piracy be condoned and the people set to profit from their original film, music, and literature content have already profited so stealing their work is perfectly justified? When you crowd fund the next multi-million dollar film you can set the terms of distribution but until then you have no right dictating your terms onto someone else's work. You do have the right to not buy the content if you feel the terms or price is not to your liking.

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[SuricouRaven]

'Its,' when used as the possessive rather than an abbreviation for 'it is,' has no apostrophe.

I don't know how hollywood manages to ever not make money. Even the worst movies seem to rake in the cash with ease.

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Anonymous Coward]

'Its,' when used as the possessive rather than an abbreviation for 'it is,' has no apostrophe.

I don't know how hollywood manages to ever not make money. Even the worst movies seem to rake in the cash with ease.

People just want to go out & do something.

The movies have to be truly awful to put them off. (FWIW, I quite enjoyed the first movie in the franchise, but they went downhill so badly after that that I literally would not go to see this movie even if Disney were to pay me $100 to do so,)

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Anonymous Coward]

Define "huge" ticket sales. Maybe without piracy the ticket sales could be higher...

Define "greed". Is it actors who demand tens of millions in salary and bonuses? Is it Disney who has made billions off this franchise? How much is enough?

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly, how much does a company have to make before it's OK to take their stuff without paying?

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Anonymous Coward]

The concern is that it might get reviewed. If the movie is bad, then the piracy really could reduce Disney's revenue. It's better for the industry if people go see movies before they hear or read reviews or opinions. This is why advertising and opening-weekends are so incredibly important to their business. Things need to happen on a fast schedule, before the public can react with knowledge of what they're buying.

It also might explain how pirate TV can be such a threat to the movie business. If you don't see TV ads, then you aren't downloading and executing movie hype.

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Master Moose]

Yes. horrible typo of mine - Forever a blemish on my online footprint :)

Re:We'll see if piracy affects sales

[Master Moose]

t I literally would not go to see this movie even if Disney were to pay me $100 to do so,)

I'm not too fussy about who is paying me. I'll take the money.

Sure as a contractor, I may be able to score more than $100 for 2 hours of my time, but that involves actual work as opposed to sitting down and relaxing.

POTC are much the same, anyway

[turkeydance]

no wonder Disney refused.

Re:POTC are much the same, anyway

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, I mean, I'm sitting here with potential access to a Disney film pre-release, and I'm debating even bothering with the download because... well... that.

Re:POTC are much the same, anyway

[Anonymous Coward]

True, even if hackers released the movie, nobody could tell if it is a new movie or some of the previous iterations.

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales..

[Anonymous Coward]

AKA... Pirates of the Caribbean: Lets Kick A Dead Horse One More Time.

File that under... what?

[DontBeAMoran]

The movie in question appears to be the upcoming film Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales. Disney appears to be working with the FBI and will not pay the ransom.

So it's a movie about pirates that's been "pirated" and a ransom has been asked but won't be paid because hopefully the "heroes" will save the day. I don't know if I should file that under irony, inception, recursive and/or funny.

Re: File that under... what?

[Anonymous Coward]

File it under "who gives a shit".

Re:File that under... what?

[fustakrakich]

A very strange hostage situation here. Doesn't the film want to be released?

Re:File that under... what?

[ArylAkamov]

Apparently the editors didn't know either. "from the _____"

Re:File that under... what?

[n3r0.m4dski11z]

Well that's interesting to think about. Depends on who you ask though. And depends on how good a movie it is. And obviously the quality.

It wouldn't be the first time movies have been leaked. Nothing to see here really.

Re:File that under... what?

[Anonymous Coward]

How about filing under advertising?

Re:File that under... what?

[Anonymous Coward]

They are refusing to pay the ransom because they know the movie's pre-release won't eat in to their profits.

They are well aware that file sharing does not harm their profits, at current levels. They keep the show running because they fear an explosion of file sharing will occur if it ever becomes legal (or is widely seen as "ok" due to lack of enforcement), and THAT will harm their profits (so they fear).

Also, they need to maintain the idea that their intellectual property is valuable, which would be harmed in a free-information culture.

So they won't pay this ransom because they don't care, and they don't care because current levels of enforcement against normal file-sharing are sufficient for their purposes.

Re:File that under... what?

[Tablizer]

a movie about pirates that's been "pirated"...irony

Iger: "That does it! Jack Sparrow diiieees painfully in the next sequel to send a message!"

Re:File that under... what?

[Anonymous Coward]

Not if the movie includes references to Stockholm Syndrome...

Re:File that under... what?

[DontBeAMoran]

Nothing to see here really.

Except a pirated movie about pirates.

Re:File that under... what?

[WallyL]

a movie about pirates that's been "pirated"...irony

Iger: "That does it! Jack Sparrow diiieees painfully in the next sequel to send a message!"

It's about time. The franchise brought in the squid-face in the second film, after all.

Re:File that under... what?

[Tablizer]

So the franchise jumped the shark-face.

Word Is

[OYAHHH]

That Jack Sparrow has been dispatched and will resolve the issue after a brief, but tumultuous, fight ensues.

Re:Word Is

[Rakarra]

That Jack Sparrow [...] will resolve the issue

Uhhhh....

after a brief [...] fight ensues.

You clearly haven't seen the Pirates of the Caribbean movies!

They should threaten to send it to movie critics

[elrous0]

"Give us the moneys or we show the movie critics how awful it is!" warned the pirates.

In other news, this is the lamest publicity stunt ever.

Re:They should threaten to send it to movie critic

[Anonymous Coward]

I read that in the voice of "Karl Hungus". "Give us the money Lebowski!"

Doesn't Matter

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd bet the movie still makes record profits.

Make a movie about pirates and it gets pirated?

[hashish]

Who would have ever thought?

Coming to

[fred911]

Your favorite thepiratebay domain.

Re:Coming to

[Anonymous Coward]

Coming to Your favorite thepiratebay domain.

So, deadmentellnotales.onion???

so, quit outsourcing, esp. your security.

[WindBourne]

What an idiot Iger is. He continues to outsource more and more of the company and then is surprised that it is being cracked.

Re:so, quit outsourcing, esp. your security.

[gweihir]

Indeed. Turns out that "saving" money on IT security can become pretty expensive.

Re: so, quit outsourcing, esp. your security.

[Kabukiwookie]

If you think hiring professionals is expensive, wait until you've hired some amateurs.

Re: so, quit outsourcing, esp. your security.

[Joe_Dragon]

we have a room full of H1B's that we pay so low that they have to sleep in it.

Re: so, quit outsourcing, esp. your security.

[Anonymous Coward]

If your experience of hiring (Indian) H1Bs is anything like mine, there's not a single one that has the first clue about their supposed degree subject, or could even engineer their way out of a paper bag, I've heard several openly admit that they cheated all the way through their degree, or even that their so-called university is literally just a certificate printing shop.
Hitting any deadline/milestone no matter how apparently simple has become such a rare event it's now mythical, and the quality of their work is so bad that repeated rework and losses of now very pissed-off customers has gone through the roof.
The real costs from employing them obviously far outweighs any salary savings, yet upper management continue to live in total denial and keep hiring more.

Re:so, quit outsourcing, esp. your security.

[Anonymous Coward]

Expensive in what way?
People aren't going to pirate this movie just because it is released earlier on pirate sites than in theaters.
Heck, since the movie probably won't have the same release date all over the world that would have been the case anyway.
The correct answer to a threat like that is either to ignore it or to involve the police and pay the ransom to be able to track the money.
The threat itself is empty.

not the first time.

[luther349]

it happened to one of those x-men movie where a pre production cut was leaked like a full month before release it had little to no affect on sales. but it is a first to demand a ransom.

Awwww

[Opportunist]

Did shipping jobs overseas backfire?

Here's the tiniest violin, made in the USA, playing just for you.

Re:Awwww

[BeanThere]

I'm going to guess that this is connected to the recent Larson Studios hack (https://www.databreaches.net/thedarkoverlord-leaks-upcoming-episode-of-orange-is-the-new-black-after-netflix-doesnt-pay-extortion-demand/); if so, then it doesn't have anything to do with shipping jobs overseas, as they're a California-based post-production company.

ok so...

[roc97007]

Disney has done some bad things recently (cough-H1B-cough) but I'm kinda glad they refused to pay. And I have a stronger urge to see this film in the theater, regardless of whether the criminals release it or not.

Re: ok so...

[Anonymous Coward]

Well congratulations sir, you have been played by the Disney PR machine perfectly. Enjoy your overpriced pile-of-crap movie.

Re:ok so...

[Anonymous Coward]

I have even less of an interest than before to see this movie because of Disney's action and stance on copy"right". It just reminded my why I refuse to pay to see Disney films. That company has literally undermined democracy and freedom of speech and freedom in general. They are why copyright has been extended practically indefinitely (ie nothing published today will ever hit public domain) and it's worse than that because they depend on violence, actual theft of real property/money, and the destruction of anonymity to enforce. The Freenet Project says it best "You cannot guarantee freedom of speech and enforce copyright law".

The only thing you can do to fight back is to gather with other like minded individuals in New Hampshire. I partook in this huge project because there is nowhere you can go and be free- we're all slaves to the government(s) and corporations whether we like it or not. However migrating enough liberty-minded people to one place we can fight back at a local level. Most prisoners are put there by the state, not the feds, even if the fed is a big problem. But you can't fight back against the fed until you have achieved enough support at a lower level and you won't get that if you focus globally or nationally. You'll only get that if you focus on a small state like New Hampshire. A minority controls the state everywhere so one only needs to achieve a minority that is more active than those in power to achieve success. It's why the Free State Project and Shire Society have been successful in New Hampshire despite only having about 5,000 activists so far here of about 25,000 who are here or working on moving. From guns to weed to filming police to resurrection of the New Hampshire libertarian party (and unlike the national level and every other state we have principled people here, and the only reason libertarian died in NH was because the democrats and republicans interfered with third party candidates ability to get on the ballot as libertarians) we've had successes.

Re:ok so...

[phantomfive]

I have a stronger urge to see this film in the theater,

It's tough to build desire to see this movie that even the cast and writers don't seem to be taking seriously. The first one was good.

Why do they do this?

[Anonymous Coward]

Does anyone actually pay these ransoms? I guess that's hard to know as they would probably keep quiet if they did.

Re:Why do they do this?

[luther349]

in fact they do.if nobody every payed then nobody would ever do it.

The perps deserve severe punishment, period.

[Anonymous Coward]

Sure, most of us have downloaded a few songs etc.

But demanding ransom as these jerkoffs are doing is asking for trouble, and
I suspect they are going to get more trouble than they ever imagined.

If I were in charge of things at Disney, I'd want to send a worldwide message that
anyone who fucked with Disney would regret it for a long long time, in prison. I respect
Disney's refusal to pay a ransom, that would only encourage more idiocy on the part
of twits who have nothing better to do than try to hold companies for ransom.

Frankly, I hope the perps are caught and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

And take your bullshit "argument" about this stuff not being criminal behavior and
shove it . Any adult knows this is unacceptable behavior.

What's Next?

[Anonymous Coward]

How long until some group tries to "ransom" the power grid?

Disney had some in there pocket and indy to get r

[Anonymous Coward]

Disney had some in there pocket and indy to get raped hardcore in the 5th movie

Re:They should threaten to send it to movie critic

[haruchai]

In other news, this is the lamest publicity stunt ever.

I think the "oh my god, we had to make Clooney's / Routh's costumes twice as roomy in front as Kilmer's / Reeve's" beats that by a country mile

another disney crap...?

[Anonymous Coward]

I am surprised anyone bothered enough to download watch that dribble of movie....

Big deal

[Anonymous Coward]

Pirates of the Caribbean was good. The rest were shit. The new one looks like shit too, from the trailer.

Come on, folks

[PPH]

Lets all chip in to keep this Disney movie from being released.

I'm afraid the studio is going to ask quite a bit more than the hackers to keep it off the screens.

FREE PUBLICITY

[Anonymous Coward]

FOR DISNEY

I have an idea

[slashmydots]

STOP storing your movies on internet-connected computers or at the very least, encrypt them. You know what hackers can't steal? An encrypted movie file with the decryption key on a sticky note on your monitor. Well okay, they CAN steal it but they wouldn't be able to decrypt it.

How many releases untill they get to the movie?

[Diac]

They stated they would release the first 5 minutes of the movie then 20 minute chunks after unless there ransom was paid so with the current before credits scenes in modern moves how many releases do they do to do before they get to the actual movie? lol

Re:How many releases untill they get to the movie?

[Anonymous Coward]

Just one really. Let's not exagarrate stuff.

That's alright, I understand

[Anonymous Coward]

I wouldn't pay for that movie either

Sounds good

[Kernel Kurtz]

Nobody wants cams.

Rumor Has It

[Anonymous Coward]

America's first orange President gave it to the Russians.

Fair enough

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't blame them, I wouldn't pay for it either.

Stolen?

[Lost Race]

As in, Disney no longer has it?

'Cause that's what "stolen" means.

Re:Stolen?

[BradleyUffner]

2nd definition at http://www.dictionary.com/brow...

2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.

Re:Stolen?

[ckatko]

You're right. It's impossible to steal national secrets because you have to have the physical copies from the fax machine.

Re:Stolen?

[Lost Race]

Curses! My arch-nemesis, dictionary.com!

Arrrrr Pirates!

[Anonymous Coward]

3 days, Jack. I come for my booty in 3 days.

I don't care about Disney anymore (H-1B)

[no1nose]

They hire Indian immigrants on the H-1B Visa program and lay-off hard-working American Engineers. Who really cares is a lame Disney movie got stolen. Good riddance.

Re: I don't care about Disney anymore (H-1B)

[Anonymous Coward]

How else would they fulfill their diversity requirements:
http://slapthebaldy.com/comics/15.html

Re:I don't care about Disney anymore (H-1B)

[Anonymous Coward]

How is this related to immigrants or H1B visa?

Oh, I get it. You're a racist , so you can't stop yourself from using every opportunity to make blunt racist comments.

Re:I don't care about Disney anymore (H-1B)

[Anonymous Coward]

Think before you post.

Re:I don't care about Disney anymore (H-1B)

[Anonymous Coward]

It's nothing to do with race. It's big corporates screwing over the little guy.

Re:I don't care about Disney anymore (H-1B)

[Anonymous Coward]

H-1B workers is a race ?

i guess anything is a race to you when you feel the urge to virtue signal shit you havent even thought trough

Re:I don't care about Disney anymore (H-1B)

[Anonymous Coward]

H-1B workers is a race ?

No, no. You see, H-1B is a "dog-whistle" for [insert racial epithet] that only race-baiters can hear. In other words race-baiters are dogs.

Re:I don't care about Disney anymore (H-1B)

[Anonymous Coward]

Think before you post.

With his sort of knee jerk reply, I think you're asking too much.

Re:They should threaten to send it to movie critic

[Anonymous Coward]

You joke, but Sony's North Korean spoof was massively more successful after it was leaked by hackers, and obtained global coverage.

Depp is now toxic, and this film was already in the works. Disney will be desperate to get anything they can from this pointless garbage.

Perhaps....?

[RotateLeftByte]

The Movie is so bad that Disney Management decided to plant this story to make sure that people go to see it when it is released?

Wasn't there a story recently where Johnny Depp was fed his lines in the Movie through an earpiece because he couldn't be bovvered to learn them they were so bad? (or something like that)

As Disney are bloodsucking leeches of a company, I hope it flops anyway.

Re:They should threaten to send it to movie critic

[elrous0]

I wasn't joking on that part. It's an obvious PR stunt.

Of course they aren't going to pay

[91degrees]

Even if the hackers were going to make the movie worthless, it's a hit Disney could afford to take. And might as well, in order to prevent future extortion attempts.

And piracy will hardly affect it at all. Most people don't want a rough cut of a movie. And an action movie like PotC needs the big screen. DVD sales are most likely to be affected, and that will be pirated as soon as it's released anyway.

shake down

[Anonymous Coward]

that's a nice movie you have there. it'd be a shame if anything happened to it...

Exactly: useless threats

[DrYak]

Plus no-one who is going to see this in the theater is going to not do so now that they can see the movie 20 minutes at a time on their laptop.

And also, people who are interested in getting pirated copies of the movies will get one at the thousands other leaks/bootleg/screen cap/DVD-screener/Web-DL/whatever that will pop up in the following months.
Even if Disney *did* decide to pay, and the blackmailer were "honest" and destroyed their copy, that wouldn't stop the countless others.
It's just basically about one more extra download link at your usual download/dtreaming spot.
It's just not worth for Disney to pay.

Cry me a river.

[Qbertino]

Seriously. Disney has such a trackrecord as a bad company I can't even muster a shrug. And, btw., who would want to watch that movie anyway? PotC #5 it is or something? Give me a break. If I had that movie on my disk I would probably delete it without watching, to free up some space. I can imagine countless other things to way better spend 2.5 hours of my life.

Re:Cry me a river.

[ckatko]

I'm really surprised this thread isn't full of comments like this. Disney is considered to the living personification of the devil by many inside and outside the industry. They literally made their billions by "stealing" all their stories from public works, and then lobbied congress to pass copyright laws that made it impossible for any future generation to do what THEY DID.

crimes against mankind

[Anonymous Coward]

After all the crimes Disney Corporation has inflicted on the human culture, in the name of profit... Any action, inclusive genocide, against their upper and middle management and the board is justifiable and should be rewarded.

These fucks are fair game after what they did to copyright, imo.

Is this the new form of Hollywood accounting?

[Anonymous Coward]

1 .Make turd of a movie
2 . claim it's ben hacked and released thus losing all potential profits. Claim of the insurance , 3. 3 Sue lots of pepeople and write it off agaisnt the tax payers.
4. Profit.

Where are not yet even

[houghi]

They stole copyright from the world, so one movie in return is not that bad.

Re:Disney had some in there pocket and indy to get

[Anonymous Coward]

In English please?

And repeating the subject in the text (or vice-versa) looks pretty retarded.

I'm confused... are the assets gone?

[wardrich86]

Did they take everything that was done and then delete it from Disney? I'm not sure what the big deal is, otherwise... release it in Theathres. People that planned on seeing it will see it. People that didn't, won't.

Easy answer

[Anonymous Coward]

If the movie has been stolen by hackers, I'd be pissed!

But it seems Disney can have their movie back if they just refuse to pay.

I don't know what the hackers get out of that, but hey, problem solved.

If you ask me, this should be a news story of the year for "Dumbest criminals".

Good on 'em

[Anonymous Coward]

I wish Disney and its shareholders nothing but the worst regarding this incident!

Piracy of a pirate movie...

[Hydrian]

Publicity stunt anyone?

The real news here...

[Anonymous Coward]

is that they made another pirate movie. Really, we can't be done yet?!

Re: Disney had some in there pocket and indy to ge

[Brockmire]

He said the last Indiana Jones movie was so bad, Harrison Ford is getting raped in the next one.