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Scientists Claim 'Cold Spot' In Space Could Offer Evidence of a Parallel Universe (inhabitat.com)

New submitter LCooke writes: A international research team led by the University of Durham thinks a mysterious cold spot in the universe could offer evidence of a parallel universe. The cold spot could have resulted after our universe collided with another. Physicist Tom Shanks said, [...] "the cold spot might be taken as the first evidence for the multiverse -- and billions of other universes may exist like our own." From the report via Inhabitat: "NASA first discovered the baffling cold spot in 2004. The cold spot is 1.8 billion light years across and, as you may have guessed, colder than what surrounds it in the universe. Scientists thought perhaps it was colder because it had 10,000 less galaxies than other regions of similar size. They even thought perhaps the cold spot was just a trick of the light. But now an international team of researchers think perhaps the cold spot could actually offer evidence for the concept of a multiverse. The Guardian explains an infinite number of universes make up a multiverse; each having its own reality different from ours. These scientists say they've ruled out the last-ditch optical illusion idea. Instead, they think our universe may have collided with another in what News.com.au described as something like a car crash; the impact could have pushed energy away from an area of space to result in the cold spot." The study has been published in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.

125 comments

  1. or by Papaspud · · Score: 0

    it could have been caused by monkeys flying out of my ass.................... just sayin

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    1. Re:or by jandersen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      it could have been caused by monkeys flying out of my ass.................... just sayin

      I would say, when a bunch of cosmologists come up with a potential explanation - even an extraordinary one - there is at least a chance they are able to argue for a causal connection and a theory, whereas your lame put-down clearly isn't even meant to meet the same standards.

    2. Re:or by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 0

      With all due respect, the monkey-filled rectum scenario is at least as plausible as the submitted story.

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    3. Re: or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In the multiverse, there is actually a universe where monkeys are flying out of your butt.

    4. Re: or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I spank the monkey nightly, I would say it's more likely monkeys fly into your rectum, good sir. And on w regular basis. Any observed exit, is just that, a departure necessitated by the previous entrance.

    5. Re:or by WaffleMonster · · Score: 2

      I would say, when a bunch of cosmologists come up with a potential explanation - even an extraordinary one - there is at least a chance they are able to argue for a causal connection and a theory, whereas your lame put-down clearly isn't even meant to meet the same standards.

      I fail to see what renders "another bubble universe" substantially less constrainable of a concept for explaining the unexplained vs. "god" or "aliens".

      Personally I'm quite happy with my odds of going through life blindly labeling anyone who goes to the multiverse well to explain something they don't understand a fool. You could call me a short sighted buffoon and I could of course one day end up being wrong...

      Only problem I can't seem to bring myself to give a flying ***** anymore than I care to entertain stories of space aliens and permanent magnet anti-gravity free energy devices.

    6. Re: or by tysonedwards · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There seems to be a language barrier... The postulation is that we can only observe 13.5 billion light years away from us in any direction, and with it there is a wall that we can't see beyond as light, radiation, and general energy just hasn't gotten here yet. Amidst that, we see radiation that isn't uniform, but is mostly similar. As we can't observe past the edge of this wall of sorts, there may or may not be /something/ amidst the vast emptiness of the cosmos. Ergo, in a purely physical sense, there /may/ be something beyond the physical space that we can't yet see, and it may be interfering with what we'd perceive as the cosmic background radiation of our /limited, but vast/ view of the cosmos. As such, it can be that what has previously been defined as the 'universe' may just be a larger iteration of galaxies, and physically separate and adjacent - rather than occupying the same coordinate system in an inobservable way - there exists another very large 'universe' that ours may have previously interacted with, influencing the distribution of the cosmic background radiation. Think of it like "large gravity fields impacts the flow of light by bending it" except instead of inward towards our universe, portions are being pulled /outwards/ effectively reducing the amount directed towards us, or slowing it's travel.

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    7. Re: or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      While that is a perfectly reasonable explanation, and there are even certain ways it may be correct, but the issue is that the cold spot isn't actually at the edge of the visible universe.

      The cold spot begins roughly 6 billion light years away from us, and extends to roughly 10 billion light years away.
      That leaves roughly 3.5 billion light years of space "behind" it before reaching the edge of our visible universe.

      It also doesn't appear to be a sphere of temp difference either, as from our vantage point it only extends about 1 billion light years across at its widest points.

      Also of note, while our view from Earth outwards is fairly spherical for the most part, using the term "depth" or "distance away" can become confusing if simplified to the point of ignoring the measurements and math behind what we are actually observing.

      The distance is measured as an amount of red shift, not what would be considered travel time.
      The temperature of the cold spot is only being compared with the mean temperature of the other areas of space at the same measured red shift.

      If you exclude the cold spot for a moment, the mean temperature of any other point of space we can observe at the same red shift amount is just under 20 micro-kelvin.
      Including the cold spot again, it differs from the mean temperature by 70 to 140 micro-kelvin.

      No where else in space at this red shift has a difference in temperature even close to 4-8 times colder.
      Thus it is perfectly reasonable to consider this spot an anomaly.

      Back to the postulation you made, like I mentioned you could still actually be correct.
      From our point of view the edge of the visible universe is 13.5 billion light years away, which contains the cold spot and roughly 3.5 billion light years more space "behind" it.

      But from the point of view of the cold spot itself, being roughly 4 billion light years in size along one particular axis, the cold spots visible universe extends 9.5 billion light years away from it, which is very roughly 20 billion light years away from us, far past our visible universe.

      So it is quite possible for something Else to be going on in space basically on the other side of the cold spot, past where it is possible for us to observe, but close enough to the cold spot to cause an effect on it.

      Sadly once we leave "theoretical science" and come back to "science", both of the explanations (actually most any explanation) is not within the realm of testable/verifiable observation.

      Given a multiverse explanation, we likely can never know if that is the case.
      Given your explanation, we certainly can't know now if that's the case, and we would need to still be around in 20+ billion years to do so.
      (Which technically means it's safe to say "humanity" will never know. Whatever our decedents call themselves at that time, assuming they exist, may know, but it won't be humanity)

      The odds of such a spot forming randomly by chance are embarrassingly tiny.
      (On the other hand, it seems the odds of intelligent life emerging at random chance are similarly tiny too, and we know that happened at least once!)
      So it would be very nice to at least rule that possibility out first, before worrying about an explanation on what caused it.

      But both the resolution of our observations, and the detail level of our simulations, are so poor still that we can't rule out chance yet. Some even argue it wouldn't be possibly, so there is no "yet".

    8. Re: or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact we can deduce that there is indeed a lot more space outside our Hubble volume since otherwise the universe would be closed and small enough that if we see a CMB feature when we look to the left we should see the same structure (though possibly at a different time) when we look right. They have looked for that, but found no evidence. So the universe must be larger than the distance to the CMB.

      Further, the fact that the CMB keeps existing from one year to the next shows that there are more light years of CMB out there.

    9. Re:or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Careful, Bruce all mighty may provide you with a butt dwelling monkey that wants to go home.

    10. Re: or by omnichad · · Score: 1

      the cold spots visible universe extends 9.5 billion light years away from it, which is very roughly 20 billion light years away from us, far past our visible universe.

      If this universe emerged from a singularity and expanded at no more than the speed of light, than the observable universe by extents of light reach is the entire universe. How would a far away area get light from further away unless the universe expanded faster than light?

    11. Re: or by NEDHead · · Score: 1

      There seems to be an understanding and knowledge barrier. Your facts are incorrect from your second sentence. After that was not worth reading

    12. Re:or by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      why were you modded down for this? wtf do people have no common sense? "we dont know how it works, but it doesnt work like that"

    13. Re: or by AJWM · · Score: 3, Informative

      Your "if" evaluates to false. The (very) early universe expanded far faster than the speed of light. This is possible because it was spacetime itself expanding FTL, not something trying to travel through it.

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    14. Re: or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. The monkey theory is based in reality because it's occurring within our universe. When you talk about things outside our universe you're in the realm of religion.

    15. Re: or by Tanktalus · · Score: 1

      (On the other hand, it seems the odds of intelligent life emerging at random chance are similarly tiny too, and we know that happened at least once!)

      [citation needed]

      I haven't seen any evidence for it. Maybe I'm just hanging out on the wrong sites.

    16. Re: or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Related:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe#/media/File:Earth%27s_Location_in_the_Universe_SMALLER_(JPEG).jpg

    17. Re:or by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      With all due respect, the monkey-filled rectum scenario is at least as plausible as the submitted story.

      And in a parallel universe, it may even be the most logical one. Just like, in most parallel universes, Donald Trump is not president. Unfortunately, in the "infinite worlds" scenario, it's guaranteed that anything that could happen, would happen in at least one universe. We just happen to be in "that" universe - the one with the planet that intelligent life avoids at all cost.

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    18. Re: or by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      We know there's intelligent life out there - look how they avoid us :-)

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    19. Re:or by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You want the multiverse two doors down, where what you say is true.

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    20. Re: or by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      I disagree. The monkey theory is based in reality because it's occurring within our universe. When you talk about things outside our universe you're in the realm of religion.

      Bullshit. Nobody is asking you to take it on faith or belief based on a "textus receptus." We may some day be able, at least in theory, to put it to the test, same as we tested other theories, like the existence of bacteria, the failure of the accepted view of spontaneous transformation of meat into maggots, moons around other planets, or even, one day, intelligent life on Earth.

      Your backhanded appeal to religion shows a lack of both imagination and curiosity, two essential ingredients for the advancement of knowledge.

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    21. Re: or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb question, but is there any evidence of the cold spot expanding?

    22. Re:or by jandersen · · Score: 1

      With all due respect, the monkey-filled rectum scenario is at least as plausible as the submitted story.

      Let's examine that claim. On one hand, we have a hypothesis, proposed by a person or a team, who have an established reputation as being scientists, and whose hypothesis ties into existing theories, although the hypothesis itself is largely speculative.They are trying to do what all, good scientists do, namely make falsifiable predictions, and their colleagues can therefore scrutinise their reasoning and try find relevant data. That difference may not impress you, but to a scientist it is important.

    23. Re:or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The globe theory is cold. Flat Earth is HOT! Watch flat earth clues and see why flat earth is hot!

    24. Re:or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't get to say 'we have no idea what the other universe might be like' and then say 'its not like that, thats silly'.

      "it's not like that, that's silly". There, FTFY

  2. So A parallel universe that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is a much colder version of this universe?

    1. Re:So A parallel universe that by Calydor · · Score: 2

      Only in the same way that your car only gets crumbled up in a car crash with another car that is already crumbled up.

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  3. Or maybe ... by thadtheman · · Score: 1

    they used the wrong kind of thermometer.

    1. Re:Or maybe ... by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Right thermometer, wrong hole.

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    2. Re: Or maybe ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is no wrong hole, just happy accidents.

    3. Re:Or maybe ... by Alain+Williams · · Score: 1

      or maybe the inhabitants over there just did not pay their electricity bill ....

    4. Re:Or maybe ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The big question is why 'cold spot' is in quotes in the headline and not 'scientists'.

    5. Re:Or maybe ... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Because most empty space is really cold, and while this may be large percentages colder it's still more or less the same compared to planets and stars.

  4. Multiverse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...of the gaps.

  5. Blind Spot by mentil · · Score: 0

    This makes me think of the eye's 'blind spot', which is actually where the nerves pass through the retina. Perhaps the cold spot is where energy passes through our universe into another, although that would suggest more energy is flowing from this one to that one.

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    1. Re:Blind Spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the passage channeling the images of us grabbing our asses while masturbating straight to God^h^h^hSauron. On a more serious note, it would be interesting to detect or simulate dark matter concentrations, if any, in that area. Actually, the existence of a single, larger cold spot reminds me of the way a chaotic system such as the atmosphere of Jupiter produces persistent, large storms like the Great Red Spot.

    2. Re:Blind Spot by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      This makes me think of the eye's 'blind spot',

      Strange . . . this makes me think of the universe's G-spot.

      Which, if it really is cold, would explain a lot of things that are wrong with the universe.

      . . . and makes it even more incredible that a bunch of geeky scientists were able to find it at all!

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    3. Re:Blind Spot by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      The fact that they found it, means that its obviously not the universe's g-spot.

    4. Re:Blind Spot by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Or maybe the energy is flowing into the past, which we now see today as the cosmic background radiation, big bang, etc. Who knows - it's probably stranger than we can imagine at this point.

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  6. Multiverse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i.e. reglion, a belief system defying logic.

    Of course there are multiple Universes, because there could not be only 1 without some magic one off mechanism. There's not even a viable hypotesis explaining the one universe.

    How would these universes *not* interact? i.e. how would all the known laws of physics magically bubble around them? So of course they interact. So of course they don't exist in their own reality.

    This is what happens when you decide that logic and reason don't apply to your particular branch of science. Time travel (i.e. causality selectively violated to fix up a broken model), selective ignoring of physics, failure to face the reality of the pile of shit you've been shovling.... the growing reality that *you* are the modern "Earth-at-the-center-of-the-universe" joke scientists.

    1. Re:Multiverse by omnichad · · Score: 1

      cold spot = center of the universe. If everything expanded from there, would anything be left there?

    2. Re: Multiverse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your definition and understanding of religion is uninformedâ at best. Read Trent Horn's Answering Atheism and then get back to us. It will blow your mind. Make you realize how little you have researched this issue.

  7. What exactly is "cold" but a void? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are "cold spots" in an oven set to broil. Uniform distribution of energy is Nobody's Law. Just because we can't model things perfectly and anomalies exist, that doesn't mean it must be new physics. "1/10,000th of a temperature difference that we can't explain? It could be GOD!"

    1. Re:What exactly is "cold" but a void? by mentil · · Score: 3, Funny

      The size of the cold spot is hypothesized to be precisely as large as a noodly appendage. Coincidence?

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    2. Re:What exactly is "cold" but a void? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Consider this Flying Spaghetti Monkey convinced.

    3. Re:What exactly is "cold" but a void? by ByteSlicer · · Score: 1

      The real explaination is much, much simpler.
      The North Pole is melting due to global warming, and consequently Santa moved his house to a different galaxy, cooling it down in the process.
      You can totally tell that Santa is an alien btw, because all his offspring are little green men with big eyes and pointy ears...

  8. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't the term "parallel universe" misleading? I think anything that can affect our reality is still part of the universe, isn't it? What would the definition of "universe" be otherwise?

  9. Re:I'm With Her by Z80a · · Score: 1, Funny

    In the good universe, both lost because the US have several viable parties there.

  10. And by cold spot... by Z80a · · Score: 1

    You mean the water on mario's feet he uses to accumulates enough speed to perform the parallel universe traveling?

  11. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "We measure things by what we are. To the maggots in the cheese, the cheese is the universe. To the worms in the corpse, the corpse is the cosmos..."

    To the people on the internet, the internet is... the field of dreams?

  12. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A century ago, before multiple galaxies were understood to exist, the word "universe" was used to refer to our galaxy, and other galaxies were called "island universes" as well. Now that we think of a universe as containing multiple galaxies, recent speculation into multiple universes has led to use of the words "multiverse" or "cosmos" instead to refer to the farthest reaches of our physical reality.

  13. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The darknet is made of dark energy.

  14. Meh. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    It's just the Roseanne Barr black hole decloaking for her new show.

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  15. Re:I'm With Her by Z80a · · Score: 0

    You did good, but sadly there's too much money and corruption keeping it down.

  16. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll keep my distance--lest it be destroyed.

  17. Indian tantric zealots by dschiptsov · · Score: 0

    would envy the level of bullshit modern "science" exhibit.

  18. Re:I'm With Her by Rockoon · · Score: 0

    I voted Green.

    Its your fault then. Thats why the Democrats hate you now.

    ...if only people would face facts and just vote for evil like they were told...

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  19. Re:I'm With Her by Gavagai80 · · Score: 0

    Hi there, I'm Jill Stein's other voter. In the universe where the USA is a parliamentary democracy with proportional representation, she's one of the two Green MPs being ignored by the major parties.

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  20. Re:I'm With Her by Gavagai80 · · Score: 0

    95% of the electorate voted for evil. Not perfect but I really don't think evil is feeling too bad about that.

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  21. Oh dear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why has this site deteriorated to the point where weak speculation on astrophysics can somehow be related to trump vs Clinton? Are Americans so vain that this constitutes a valid discussion point? Grow up please.
    Firstly the universe has no boundary from our perspective. Any other universes exist purely as a concept and most likely occupy the same space - think of a probability waveform. The sources quoted here are hardly reputable. I wouldn't get too excited about it. Sounds like a fluff piece.

    1. Re:Oh dear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think /. is bad for physics fluff pieces, you should stay well away from phys.org.

    2. Re:Oh dear by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      You ask "how speculation on astrophysics can somehow be related to Trump vs Clinton." Since you asked, here's one possibility - there may be a sane universe where neither of them were even candidates. Let's face it - 2 years ago, if anyone had said "President Trump", you'd say they were either deluded or living in an alternate universe. You're not deluded - we are living in that alternate universe, where the improbable happens more often than can be reasonably expected. Hence the attempts to explain it away via "God did it", etc.

      Well, at least it's a theory that fits the facts ... and answers your question.

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  22. Natural language is not math by lucaiaco · · Score: 2

    You are technically right, but a natural language is not mathematics. A black hole is not a black hole, and the milky way is not made of milk.

  23. They get paid to daydream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their job is to say "hey maybe that's a sign of multiverse, send cash".
    Let's form an indipendent guild of sci-fientist and collect gov cash over our sci-fi formulated hypothesis

  24. No, where you have variation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    you will inevitably get below average.

    The voids in space for galaxies are just places where there's less mass to form galaxies. Which then means there's more gravitational attraction where the galaxies are, which means stuff that is in that lower density region is pulled out making it more of a void.

    Likewise with telescopes, you can get a better optic by buying a bigger telescope then putting an off-axis stop which you can move about to find the bit where the larger lens or mirror is more perfectly the right shape than the average, therefore improving optical performance.

    So, no, "It's colder than average" means nothing more than saying the earth is warmer than average and on average empty space is colder than the average of all space.

  25. Tremendous! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " an infinite number of universes make up a multiverse; each having its own reality different from ours."

    I'm pining for one without orange Hitler.

  26. Re:I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except where the major party is one short of a filibuster proof mandate.

    You know, like Joe Lieberman. There was only one of him but he managed to fuck everyone over by voting for his donors rather than his constituents or the citizens of the USA. Imagine if he'd been replaced by a Green candidate who wasn't bought by the medical insurance industry? You would have had a public option to choose from as well as any other free market choice that the private industry could bring to bear against the "incompetent and inefficient" public option.

    Just one seat fucked you all up badly.

  27. clearly you don't know what religion is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just coming up with something stupid does not make a religion, otherwise you're just another religion. No matter HOW stupid.

    And hypotheses are not religions either.

    "God did it" is a hypothesis. "I know god did it" is bullshit. And "God let it happen because god must exist" is THE RESULT of a religion.

    What turns "goddidit" to a non-hypothesis is that the excuse is retconned as to why the evidence against that hypothesis is invalid. What turns it into a religion is the religious heirachy and the catchetisms and rituals that christianity has.

    Just because you hate science for replacing religion as an explanation of reality does not make science a bad religion.

  28. Perhaps by some+old+guy · · Score: 1

    Could it be that we're quibbling over semantics? Let's examine a word.

    What is "the universe"? What if it simply means "everything, everywhere, all the time". What magicians call "all that is, seen and unseen"?

    "Everything" is an all-inclusive infinitive. Logically nothing can not be included in everything.

    That leaves us with the scientific quest to explore everything, and thereby exclude nothing.

    Just a rambling muse before coffee...

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  29. warm patch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe everywhere else is just a warm patch.

    1. Re: warm patch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're causing universal warming!

  30. Re:I'm With Her by dywolf · · Score: 1

    that just makes you extra dumb.

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  31. Maybe that parallel universe is where by mark_reh · · Score: 2

    "alternative facts" come from...?

  32. Bad terminology by Megane · · Score: 1

    "Parallel universe" makes people think of the trope.

    I think "perpendicular universe" would be better, and it's probably more accurate since parallel things don't intersect.

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    1. Re:Bad terminology by airdrummer · · Score: 1

      orthogonal, maybe...i've always just called them "other people" ;-);-);-)

    2. Re:Bad terminology by Megane · · Score: 1

      Yes, orthogonal is also a better word than parallel.

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  33. Parallel Universe Collision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If these universes collided, what do the universes exist within? Why would universes have collided at a particular point in time, when time is a construct of our own universe? This seems like an attempt apply the laws of physics within our universe to a situation where they don't apply at all.

  34. less vs fewer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "10,000 fewer galaxies"

  35. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Astronomers have had a notion of the multiverse for decades. So while the word universe originally meant all that existed, it has shifted to meaning a variety of things since there are different types of multiverses that have been theorized.

  36. Re: I'm With Her by avocanite · · Score: 1

    If universes were capable of colliding, then the term "parallel" would definitely be misleading (and inaccurate:-) )

  37. Where exactly was that cold spot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was it in Kelly Anne Conway's dead-inside stripper eyes? I think I can see an everlasting vacuum of dark energy when I look at her.

  38. Can a collision even happen? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Given so-called parallel universes are in other planes of reality that we cannot ever travel to because we have no commonality of any spatial dimensions, how can a hypothesis that talks about a physical collision between the two universes, and even located at a particular geographical spot in ours, even make any sense?

    1. Re: Can a collision even happen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for putting this obvious fact so simply. This story is nonsense.

    2. Re:Can a collision even happen? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      we have no commonality of any spatial dimensions

      1. ... no commonality that we know of.
      2 ... any spatial dimensions that we know of.
      3. ... who says the rules of space-time are uniform even in our own universe?
      4. ... who says the collisions were collisions of matter? cf Matter-energy equivalence, etc.

      One thing we know for certain that that we don't know everything. also:

      even make any sense?

      Lots of things we now accept as nonsense used to be accepted facts. It "made sense" that heavier objects fell faster than lighter objects. It "made sense" that the earth was the center of the universe, since "everything was seen to revolve around it." It "made sense" that fetuses were little humans, complete at conception, and just grew in size over 9 months. It "made sense" to stone gays and lesbians to death. It "made sense" to elect Donald Trump. Oops - those last two show we have a ways to go.

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    3. Re:Can a collision even happen? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      "... that we know of"

      Once you start playing that word game, literally anything no matter how stupid becomes possible, so its pointless to even go down that road.

    4. Re:Can a collision even happen? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      It's not a word game. You're the one playing word games by invoking the "once you start playing that word game" bullshit. That's just a cop-out for those who lack sufficient intellectual curiosity to ask "why?" For example, why does an "arrow of time" exist? It's not like it's required for the universe to exist - it may just be an artifact of our perceptions. Why can't all points in time exist simultaneously, the same as all points in space? Maybe entropy is also an artifact. We don't know, and unless we ask the questions, we'll never know.

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    5. Re:Can a collision even happen? by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      Like trying to travel to the horizon. You can see it right over there, but the more you move toward it, the further it travels away from you. I seems to me that the speed of light limit may be something similar to the horizon. It is there, but it isn't really a thing, but an illusion.

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  39. Re:I'm With Her by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    when the choices are super super evil, and only kind of slightly super super evil.. the pick is evident.

  40. Re:I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I demand you stop your hate speech before i kill you!

  41. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Parallel lines on a sphere collide. If you're not in a rectilinear euclidian geometry space, parallel doesn't mean what you claim it does.

  42. Re:I'm With Her by F34nor · · Score: 1

    I voted Cthulhu. Why choose the lesser evil?

  43. So does that mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...this parallel universe has its own God?

    1. Re: So does that mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least one of them would have a God so powerful He could visit different universes. Oh look. That's exactly what happened. Thanks physics you just PROVED religion.

    2. Re: So does that mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure if you're joking but you're actually 100 percent correct. I wish physicists we're required to take an into to philosophy course before talking about philosophy. Neil DeGrasse Tyson would stop looking like an uneducated simpleton if he knew a little philosophy.

  44. Sounds like the same reasoning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that makes people think cold spots in a haunted house are ghosts.

  45. Creationist view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cold spot is simply where Jesus jizzed. It's gross but you can simply wash the sheets in 100 bleach, then burn it with fire .. not in that order.

  46. Re: I'm With Her by Immerman · · Score: 1

    These days "the universe" mostly means something like "all places that exist within our four-dimensional spacetime", i.e. if you could conceivably hit it if you could somehow shoot a nearly infinitely fast bullet at it

    (in reality, the light speed limitation, plus the accelerating expansion of the universe, places even most of even the tiny bubble that is our visible universe beyond our ability to ever contact. We can only see the light they emitted long ago, before the exponentially expanding space between us had carried them forever out of contact).

    "Parallel" universes, of most of the dozen or so theoretical forms that are currently considered plausible, are something different - there is literally no path through space that can ever reach them - they exist as a completely independent bubble of spacetime and may (probably) have completely different laws of physics, and can only interact with ours during occasional collisions within whatever higher-dimensionality system we all exist in (and possibly through gravity with some forms)

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  47. Sensational reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a classic example of bad Internet reporting. It's gone from a the author of a paper providing evidence against one theory for the dark sport's existence saying:

    "... there are more exotic explanations. Perhaps the most exciting of these is that the Cold Spot was caused by a collision between our universe and another bubble universe"

    To an article stating scientists

    "may have found evidence of a parallel universe"

    To a post saying scientists CLAIM they have evidence for a parallel universe.

    For shame.

  48. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Parallel lines do not exist in spherical geometry, so you're wrong. aybe you do not understand what parallel lines are? parallel lines: "Parallel lines are two lines that do not intersect and are exactly the same distance apart."

    see the important part:-->two lines that do not intersect

  49. Fewer not less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The correct English is 'fewer galaxies' not 'less galaxies'.

    1. Re:Fewer not less by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      I'm voting for the Ford Galaxy.

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    2. Re:Fewer not less by airdrummer · · Score: 1

      or ford prefect...

  50. Not evidence by kwack · · Score: 1

    This is a highly speculative interpretation of existing data. Other speculative interpretations are possible. The scientific method would dictate proceeding by designing clever experiments whose outcomes could rule out various alternative interpretations. I'm not convinced this is possible here, and not persuaded that this is true science. Certainly it's not "evidence".

  51. Science Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love science fiction as much as the next guy but when supposed 'scientist' start to deal with it as 'science fact' then we have crept in to a very dark area for science.

    The 'multi-verse' is a HYPOTHESIS, in other words a 'pure ass guess', based on entirely incomplete calculations in 'multi-dimensional spaces'. If you start with math that contains multi-dimensionality what the heck do you think will 'come out of the math'. But such math has never been shown to reduce to the math we know can be used today to make predictions.So it's a pure out mathematical game, nothing wrong with that, math is cool but none of it necessarily acts as a model for reality unless you can make a prediction that no one else has made & then demonstrate it to be true.

    Also, unless you can show how to 'rotate' one of these dimensions in to the 4 we know exist there would be no known mechanism to have an orthogonal universe 'collide' with our own.

    I take shit like this as simply demonstration that the field of 'theoretical physics' has entirely stagnated, I don't say that to insult theoretical physicists, I once thought I'd be one...the math is fucking HARD. Einstein was a genius at a level that may not come along again for thousands of years. If there is a 'Theory of Everything' we can only hope it reduces as simply to E=MC^2 and General Relativity.

  52. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would Define a universe as that which came forth from the Big Bang. Multiple Big Bangs would equal multiple universes. As I read it, this is clearly part of our universe. Although a separate part in a way. Headlines are clickbait.

  53. It's bitztream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The autism-hating, custom EpiPen-hating, Musk-hating, Qualcomm-hating Slashdot troll!

  54. Re:I'm With Her by murdocj · · Score: 1

    Yes, of course, making sure people have health insurance, having environmental regulations, that's all evil, wouldn't want to vote for that, would you?

  55. existence of the WMAP cold spot is doubtful by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2

    The so called WMAP cold spot looks to just be some sort of data error and probably does not in fact exist

    Too bad because the idea was seriously cool and would have been useful for science fiction.

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    1. Re:existence of the WMAP cold spot is doubtful by vandamme · · Score: 1

      Too bad because the idea was seriously cool

      I see what you did there.

  56. Re:I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Highly unlikely, when "didn't bother to even vote" was more popular than either candidate.

  57. Gump Physicist by wasteoid · · Score: 1

    "My momma always said, watch out for the cold wet spot, right after two galaxies bump into each other," says Tom Shanks, aspiring local physicist.

  58. Re: I'm With Her by DavidRawling · · Score: 1

    The 9-ball on my pool table would like to have a word with you...

  59. How's life in the hypocrite lane?

    1. Re:So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
  60. Score:-5, Pwned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
  61. The Royal Astronomical Society? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't they the folks who pooh-poohed using the chronometer as a tool of navigation? Well, nice to see they're still out there pitching.

  62. Re: I'm With Her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which means, it wasn't chance or lack of effort, but rather, the system was rigged against Democrats. Republicans have figured out some way to cheat our election system.

  63. Trajectory by Miamicoastguard · · Score: 0

    I'm sure they could quickly disprove this by the trajectory of galaxies which should have been in the area to begin with. If some were pushed away however, they might be on to something.

    1. Re:Trajectory by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

      Energy doesn't get "pushed". Those words were used by "staff writers at News Corp Australia Network" and not scientists. It's similar to those who claim that black holes suck up light and energy like a vacuum.

  64. Didn't we hear about this a couple years ago? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought astronomers looked into "the great void" and found that it resulted from gravitational lensing from surrounding matter?