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dryriver writes: Major news organizations from CNN, BBC, ABC to TIME magazine, the New York Times and the Economist publish a tremendous amount of information, especially now that almost everybody runs a 24/7 updated website alongside their TV channel, magazine or newspaper. Question: How do news organizations actually keep track of what must be 1000s of pieces of incoming information that are processed into news stories every day? If they are using software to manage all this info -- which makes a lot of sense -- is it off-the-shelf software that anybody can buy, or do major news organizations typically commission IT/software contractors to build them a custom "Information Management System" or similar? If there is good off-the-shelf software for managing a lot of information, who makes it and what is it called?

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  1. If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by sethstorm · · Score: 1, Troll

    If it follows the narrative, they keep and publish it.
    If it doesn't, they purge it.

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    1. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If it's the right, information is not needed. Just shout it loudly and it must be true.

    2. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      True for all outlets more than 5 years old and 90% less than 5.

      Both sides have 'stories', which is all they need.

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    3. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you have ever read a news story where you have first hand knowledge of what is being reported, then you should know that most articles get a lot of facts wrong, and sometimes are wildly inaccurate. So the premise of the questions is wrong.

      Q: How do news organizations keep track of so much info?
      A: They don't.

    4. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by KermodeBear · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There is truth to this.

      You don't have to keep or manage information if you can just make up whatever you want and cite "a source familiar with the situation." I have never before in my life seen news organizations rely so heavily on anonymous sources. CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc., they slap whatever they want up onto their sites, say that "someone told them so," and when the story is later proven false, eh, maybe they issue a correction. Maybe. Mostly they just let it sit out there.

      Pretty sad, but news organizations don't seem to care about the truth anymore. They care more about pushing an agenda and, even more so, making money. What gets money right now? Yup, trying to convince the world that Trump is the next Adolf Hitler, we're all going to turn into cannibals by 2040, and every police officer in America just wants to shoot black people for funsies.

      It's pretty sad. I get more reliable, fact-driven news about the USA from European sources than domestic sources.

      Hate Trump all you want (I'm not a fan either), but he has thrust into the spotlight what many people have known for a long, long time now: The major news media companies are Democrat party lapdogs (save Fox News, which is a Republican party lapdog but that is changing with the Murdochs running the channel). I don't see it getting any better either, because as long as they publish negative stories about Trump (and glowing stories about Obama and Clinton) their audience doesn't care if the stories are true or not. They're stuck in a tribal mindset. "My people GOOD. Those people BAD."

      And that's it. That's all most people seem to care about anymore. Us vs. Them. The truth doesn't have a place in Us vs. Them. Us vs. Them makes money, it makes you Feel Good, it makes you crave more.

      Instead of Us vs. Them, all of this rampant tribalism, I highly suggest trying Truth vs. Fiction. Be on the side of Truth. If that means your guy is a jerk sometimes, well, then your guy is a jerk. If it means the other guy does something good, well, he does something good. What's wrong with that?

      You cannot have a meaningful dialogue about anything if you don't start from a position of truth.

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    5. Re: If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by KermodeBear · · Score: 1, Funny

      Please note that it's the Republican Party more than the political right. The Republicans are a centrist party. The closest thing you will get to a politically "right" party these days are the Libertarian or Federalist parties.

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    6. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      How about "Seth Rich Murder" on CNN, Politico, MSNBC, Salon, NYT, and WaPo? You are a fucking tool...

    7. Re: If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      Please note that it's the Republican Party more than the political right. The Republicans are a centrist party. The closest thing you will get to a politically "right" party these days are the Libertarian or Federalist parties.

      on scale of left to right to 0-100 democrat party are maybe 60 and republicans are 80.

      don't pretend you have a centrist party. if republicans are centrist then democrats are communists and you know very well that they aren't even close..

      thats the scale if you look at globally, like, if you look in terms of what kind of politics you could be running in the country it's all right from the center.

      I mean you could be just as well be trying to argue that democrats are a socialist party...

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    8. Re: If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by Erik+Hensema · · Score: 1

      Correct. Over here in Europe the Democrats would be a right wing party. The US leans very much to the right. Which is not a bad thing, but just an observation.

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    9. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Vs the right who just makes crap up and puts in a few sound bites to confirm it.

      Does that sound unfair too? Well it should. Comment like your use to be funny however we now live in a world where the president will troll news anchors in real time on twitter. And seems to be having a tendency of trusting tv news over the CIA and FBI.

      There is news then there is commentary. We need to teach the people the difference as it is often blurred.
      News: person x and y did this.
      Commatary: person x was unjustified while person y wasn't for doing this.

      TV news channels make money by keeping viewers engaged as long as they can. That means for every minute of news there is 10 minutes of commentary.

      News papers historically made money from paper sales. So the news was predominant because the big headline got the sale. The content and commintary would be put a few pages in.

      Yes in general their political bias will come across however if they are focusing on the truth someone with a different bias can still get useful info from it.

       

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    10. Re: If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      No they are not. We have abandoned centrists, what ever party we most align to seems the most centrist. But the odd dicominary is while most people wants to seem like they are a centrist they normally reject voting for the more centrist person. Why because you can be a polar opposite of a centrist. You may be pro choice but wants less gun owner restrictions. While the centrist who is running would be pro life and wants more gun restrictions.
      The parties to survive need to be non centrist. Because then the people can choose from their grab bag on their beliefs and pick what they feel is more important and go with that.

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    11. Re: If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      Pulling numbers like 60 and 80 out of your ass is just the kind of superficial and tendentious analysis we have come to expect from the American left.

      In fact the very assumption of a strict left right direction is b.s. For example, although communists/socialists and fascists are conventionally located at the far left and far right, they are ideologically quite close. Progressives are a little more moderate, but also close to either.

    12. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by thunderclees · · Score: 1

      They should restore the restriction where some nameless oligarch could only monopolize one type of media in a given area. When they took this restriction away they said the Internet would keep the discussion open, boy were they wrong.

    13. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by Scarred+Intellect · · Score: 1

      I believe you just "mistakenly" described the Ministry of Truth. Also, we're at war with Eastasia, we've always been at war with Eastasia. The troops need boots.

    14. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by unrtst · · Score: 1

      How about "Seth Rich Murder" on CNN, Politico, MSNBC, Salon, NYT, and WaPo? You are a fucking tool...

      You made me curious, so I searched for "seth rich murder" on foxnews.com (because that's the only outlet mentioned by the GP you referred to as "a fucking tool"). There is only ONE hit on foxnews.com, and it is a retraction of the story, stating:

      On May 16, a story was posted on the Fox News website on the investigation into the 2016 murder of DNC Staffer Seth Rich. The article was not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we require for all our reporting. Upon appropriate review, the article was found not to meet those standards and has since been removed.

      We will continue to investigate this story and will provide updates as warranted.

      So what was your point exactly?

    15. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      And conform to 'the story'.

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    16. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by AF_Cheddar_Head · · Score: 1

      Trump's version of "a source familiar with the situation" is "Some people say" or "Many people say". Even if the some people is a single person named Trump. Technically he isn't wrong.

      From a Donald J. Trump Tweet:

      @realDonaldTrump

      Many people are saying that the Iranians killed the scientist who helped the U.S. because of Hillary Clinton's hacked emails.
      4:45 PM - 8 Aug 2016

      No evidence ever presented.

    17. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by AF_Cheddar_Head · · Score: 1

      Or this:
      "You know, some people say that was not his birth certificate," he told ABC in August 2013, more than two years after President Obama released the document. "I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows and you don't know either."

    18. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by SoftwareArtist · · Score: 1

      I assume (hope?) you meant that to be funny, but even so, the irony of your answer is remarkable.

      The OP asked a serious question, looking for facts from people who actually know about a subject. You replied with an answer that contained no facts at all. In fact, you said things that are obviously, objectively false. You did that to score political points. Or to put it differently, you just posted made up "facts" based on the narrative you want to promote.

      Now reread your post. Do you see the irony?

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    19. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by MatthiasF · · Score: 1

      Fox News redacted their coverage of the Seth Rich conspiracy theory pushed by 4Chan and Breitbart News after they realized they could be sued for defamation and didn't have any proof to defend themselves.

      And of course they don't have the balls or honor to admit they are wrong or to apologize to the family for turning the death of their son into another fake news conspiracy theory like the pizza pedos.

    20. Re:If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by koavf · · Score: 1

      Your point is fair but irrelevant: inaccurate information is still information and arguably much harder to keep track of since you can be wrong an infinite number of ways but only correct one way. (And for what it's worth, I have been involved in a few news stories first-hand.)

    21. Re: If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Please define left and right before making these assertions.

      And being libertarian is far right? What the hell does that even mean? Libertarians are predominantly pro-freedom on basically everything. Is freedom a far right concept, or a far left concept? And why?

      For example, for libertarians, free speech is absolute. In Europe however, there are plenty of censorship laws, especially for ones that people label as hate speech with some somewhat vague rules. So which one is right, and which one is left? Again, you need to clarify what exactly right and left mean.

  2. Figure it out on your own, Bezos. by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

    We're not doing your legwork for you.

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    1. Re:Figure it out on your own, Bezos. by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Gosh, I wish there was something like, say, a global search engine where you could type this in as a query, and it'd point to articles on how actual news organisations do this. Pity there's nothing like this around.

    2. Re:Figure it out on your own, Bezos. by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      ...and it'd point to articles on how actual news organisations do this

      Nice try, except for the fact that those articles don't exist.

    3. Re:Figure it out on your own, Bezos. by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Well, I could point you to quite a number of commercial and open-source projects designed to manage the kind of data that goes into news stories. Or mention that Django was developed in large part for news organizations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(web_framework)). And that a quick query on a global search engine could turn up this and more.

      But those facts are obviously alternative to your facts. So Fake, I guess.

  3. Excel pivot tables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Excel spreadsheets tens of thousands of lines long.

  4. Depends on what you mean by "keep track" by jasonla · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is an industry software that gets used a lot called iNews. There's a reddit thread with comments from people who work at news orgs. Vox Media (The Verge, SBNation, Curbed, Polygon) built its own CMS called Chorus. The NYTimes uses WordPress for some of its blogs. And I assume the Washington Post built their own since, well, Bezos.

    1. Re:Depends on what you mean by "keep track" by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if this is industry-specific enough (it probably isn't), but there is a CMS comparison matrix which compares 1,300 Content Management Systems.

  5. Novel idea here. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you tried contacting and asking such an organization this very question?

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    1. Re:Novel idea here. by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Have you tried contacting and asking such an organization this very question?"

      He asked the New York Times, but none of their +1500 reporters had time because each had a real news job to do.

    2. Re:Novel idea here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      lol, this is "news" sites not "information".

    3. Re: Novel idea here. by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      They lie about everything else, so you probably wouldn't get a true answer.

    4. Re: Novel idea here. by denzacar · · Score: 1

      They lie about everything else, so you probably wouldn't get a true answer.

      Paranoid schizophrenic spotted. Proceed with caution.
      He might try to push further conspiracy theories to you or force you to wear tinfoil on your head.

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    5. Re: Novel idea here. by ooloorie · · Score: 1

      Paranoid schizophrenic spotted.

      Yes: you looked in the mirror again.

  6. Some use Python/Django by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    The Python based Django framework was originally designed for this purpose. No doubt others use a different system, but a few use it.

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  7. Some tech, much brain by BenSullivan3275 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Newsrooms depend on well-informed editors and reporters who are often notoriously paper-based. I've worked in six newspaper and magazine newsrooms and it's generally a central CMS/publishing/workflow system, plus a person-by-person armory of solutions (reporter's notebooks, things like Evernote, spreadsheets, etc.) There are systems used in intelligence that could find use, but journalists are kind of sensitive about doing things their own way -- in my experience. The real lifeblood of a newsroom is the channels of incoming info: wires, cable tv, Google News, etc.

    1. Re:Some tech, much brain by rwa2 · · Score: 2

      Woo, had to scroll down FAR to find any mention of a CMS (content management system), but yes.

      The closest I've ever worked for a news site was Disney, with the ESPN folks. They had bought go.com (formerly starwave.com, a Steve Ballmer venture capital spinoff from Microsoft). So they had some in-house thing in Java called GoPublish, which ran on Windows Server back in the day (they had just finished porting it to Linux when I left a few years ago), and all of the content was stored in Oracle DBs and indexed using Apache SOLR for searches.

      Only a fraction of Disney sites used this CMS, though... I doubt ESPN was one of them, actually, since they were a more recent acquisition. Other parts of the org had more modern stuff, or at least stuff that was easier to maintain and deploy updates for. I never worked that closely with the editors and content writers, so I'm sure they had their own workflows and tools. Each branch pretty much had their own separate toolchain and were upgraded somewhat independently of each other... the ones with the most money would spearhead features into the new tools and the other branches would eventually follow on a more conservative upgrade schedule.

      So, uh, good luck with your new responsibility trying to throw together a newsroom IT setup :P

    2. Re:Some tech, much brain by hey! · · Score: 1

      As I get older I realize that progress usually comes with a cost; when something is gained, something is inevitably lost. The access that search engines and social media have given us to volumes of data is invaluable; and yet for many people their mental life has been reduced to an endless cycle: skim and react, skim and react. Just as it is possible to become more informed than any human being of any past generation, it has also become easy to be plugged into current events, and yet ignorant.

      To someone of my generation, the need to ask the question "what software do news organizations use to keep track of so much information" is baffling. It's like people haven't even considered the capabilities of a group of human brains, each of which is closely studying a particular source of data.

      Not that I don't appreciate the importance and value of computers as an adjunct to the human brain. But it's no surprise we're finding it increasingly plausible to supplant the human brain, because never before have even educated people been using the capacity of their brains less.

      Future historians may well identify this time as the dawn of the Age of Analytics -- or perhaps some machine learning algorithm will. A point in time when the perennial balance between deduction and induction tilted towards induction; when people began to run their lives on masses of data nobody has ever looked at our thought about.

      This, by the way, is where fake news comes from. There's always been fake news, but when you spend time with a piece of bullshit, examining it closely and reflecting upon it, you start to notice that it stinks. But you'll never notice if it's flying past at a hundred miles an hour. We know that the entire stream of BS stinks, but we still build our world view out of the individual pieces.

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    3. Re:Some tech, much brain by onepoint · · Score: 1

      Thank you for a wonderful and thoughtful response.

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  8. Short Answer: They Don't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    At least, not a one-stop centralized system in most/many newsrooms in the US. This generally falls under the category of a reporter's responsibility to maintain this information in the way that works best for his/her/the team (of course, situations vary). It is not unusual to see a reporter storing all of their data exclusively on a personal Dropbox/OneDrive/etc account.

    As for collaboration, organizations may use a product like SharePoint, but I'd be willing to wager that 90%+ of organizations in the US are still primarily relying on a SMB share running on a (probably outdated) version of Windows Server that holds this stuff.

    The real ability to recall previous articles, etc, is based on cataloging, keywords and search. But typically, these only apply to the finalized versions of articles - and rarely, if ever, to the versions that were worked on before being sent for publishing approval.

  9. Historically? LexisNexis... by RyanFenton · · Score: 1

    When news organizations have needed to see what coverage existed on a subject in past decades at least, they'd find the guy who had access to LexisNexis and get some results from that.

    At least that's what always comes up in inside-baseball discussions on news gathering stuff I've seen.

    Ryan Fenton

  10. Reuters and AP by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

    Maybe there is someone else. These are wire services who publish a lot of the raw stories the other news organizations pick up and republish and pay to do so. If it's a really big story CNN and others will send their own reporters out.

  11. I dunno, how do YOU keep track of information? by PCM2 · · Score: 1

    The questions seems weird to me. The media organizations I've been involved with have all gathered, filtered, and kept track of information using a loosely networked system of devices known as trained human brains. Much of information-gathering is subjective; there are many "pieces of information" that cross your desk each day which ultimately can and should be discarded, often because the "information" is simply inaccurate. I imagine it would be very difficult to train any kind of computer to make value judgments on something as vague and indeterminate as "information."

    That said, one system that may resemble what the poster is talking about is the Bloomberg Terminal. It gathers information and news -- chiefly about financial markets -- and allows users to slice and dice it in various ways. I'm not sure any news-gathering organizations outside Bloomberg itself use it (or are allowed to use it), but Bloomberg makes a lot of money making the Terminals available to Wall Street traders and the like. (Subscriptions are VERY expensive.)

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  12. I know this space well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know this space well. My consulting/integration company works with many, many media companies including the majors on this exact area. AMA? I've been doing this for 13 years, and literally work with many of the largest media companies on the planet.

    There are two layers to the answer to this question. The first is storage and networking infrastructure, which is evolving very quickly for many reasons. Object storage, cloud (public/private/hybrid) -- all of these trends are having a massive impact on how the industry does things, but media is 5-10 years behind many other industries in adopting IT to solve particular challenges (our data needs are very, very high). So the move to object and cloud storage, taking advantage of 10GigE much less 40 and 100, seeing where fibre channel goes (SANs are used very extensively), the changing cost environment for all this stuff -- all these things are hitting int he media space big time.

    The next layer is the software management layer. We call this "MAM" for Media Asset Management. It's a bit of a catch-all term, and sort of folds up to DAM, or Digital Asset Management, and contains within it PAM, or Production Asset Management. It is sort of a shorthand term that refers to:

      Getting your media and other data behind a database

      Utilize software automation and integration technologies to orchestrate all sorts of interesting workflows

    MAM too is taking more and more advantage of the cloud and hybrid deployments. There are dozens of MAM vendors, with a handful of leaders. For instance Avid has PAM and MAM platforms they brand as "Interplay" (it's two different things). There are dozens of others, and I know many of them quite well. Again, my company does major MAM and workflow deployments for top-tier global M&E companies (among others). If I can answer questions, shoot 'em over.

    1. Re:I know this space well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ah, I should add that many news agencies have another layer for information management called a newsroom computing system.

      AP, the news-gathering organization, actually sells one of the main ones, called ENPS.

      Avid has one a lot of people use, called iNews.

      And then there is one a lot of organizations use called Octopus.

      MAMs often integrate with ENPS, using a protocol called MOS. This allows you to associate assets in the MAM with placeholders in a rundown put together in the newsroom system, which is used for playout during a live production (off of separate video/gfx payout servers/systems).

      I mean, information management in media/news is MANY layers of solution, I simplified it too much above.

      Networking
      Directory Services
      Storage & Storage networking & archive systems
      Cloud/hybrid scenarios
      MAM/PAM/DAM
      Newsroom computing systems
      Video servers and video playout automation platforms for production and master control needs
      Media transcoding systems
      Workflow automation systems including ESB (Enterprise Service Bus)

      A big trend is a move from monolithic systems, to SOA (Service-Oriented Architecture). Again, media is a bit behind some other industries in adopting IT. I think because our data is so big, it takes a while for certain elements of IT to be as relevant to us, because our bandwidth/storage needs are so great, relative to many other types of IT challenges. There are formats of 4K uncompressed video that are over a Gigabyte a second. Not many folks outside of Hollywood work in such formats, but still.

    2. Re:I know this space well by Nicky+G · · Score: 1

      www.chesa.com -- I hear these guys are great, if I do say so myself. ;)

  13. Re: If it's the right.... by MatthiasF · · Score: 1, Troll

    Spew hate, false accusations and never admit you are wrong.

    If a fact proves you wrong, call it fake news and build a conspiracy theory with no basis to distract your base with nonsense long enough for their tiny minds to forget the fact that would have changed their world view.

  14. I dunno by bugs2squash · · Score: 2

    I don't know what the news organizations use, but governments have some pretty big data sets and they use platforms like ckan and OGPL.

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  15. They just make it up. by BeCre8iv · · Score: 1

    Once approved by the govt of the day it becomes 'news' if not its 'fake news'

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  16. Join SMPTE by Wizardess · · Score: 1

    Join SMPTE. Get articles from back issues of their "Motion Imaging Journal" that deal with IT in the production workplace. MOS, Media Object Server, is one of the key acronyms. SDI, Serial Digital Interface, is the specification for the video pipeline hardware in many installations.

    MOS leads you to ENPS. Follow that down the rabbit hole to as much knowledge as most people would want if the motivation is only curiosity. The whole system is quite flexible and complex. (MOS is a relatively modest part of the generic "Electronic News Production System". It all fits together and it all works surprisingly well.

    (I worked on some of this sort of software in the 2000-2010 time frame.)

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  17. Journalist here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Just thought the OP might be interested in an actual answer rather than endless ill-informed snark.

    Obviously approaches vary between different organisations. When I worked at the BBC they used a system called ENPS - Electronic News Preparation System. It was developed by the Associated Press, and it was geared largely towards broadcast operations. It collated information from journalists on the ground, agency reports, broadcast scripts and contact information for sources and subjects. Over time, more and more of those contacts were appended: "DO NOT CONTACT - DEAD."

    It was labyrinthine, clunky and looked like something from the '80s, but folks understood it, it handled everything from raw material from reporters to the text that appeared on a presenter's autocue. It seemed to get the job done in quite a robust and reliable fashion. But it was largely based around the idea of broadcast running orders, and I think that might be part of the reason it's being phased out and replaced with a software suite called OpenMedia - https://www.annova.tv/en/products/index.php

    These days I work at UK-based newspaper which has become one of the world's biggest news sites. We used to run largely off of Adobe software, but in recent years as we've become a squarely digital-first outlet, we've been using more software that's been developed in-house. We have something that looks a bit like the Wordpress editor to compose and edit pieces, and it's made the process of filing, subbing and publishing content much more streamlined and efficient. We have an image system which reporters and photojournalists can upload pictures to directly, and which also pulls in the latest pics from agencies. They're all tagged by the uploaders, so if there's, say, a bombing in Bangladesh, we can filter for "Bangladesh" and see images as they come in. Similarly, we can see wires stories from the AP, AFP etc. as part of our integrated system. We see it all, and we pay for the stuff we run.

    We also have an in-house system for handling user-generated content. As recently as two or three years ago, people assumed that this would be one of the most important developments in the industry. But it hasn't taken off to anything like the extent people thought it would. People caught up in big events are far more likely to share pics and video on social networks than to contact a newspaper or broadcaster, and whenever a big story breaks you'll see a host of media people on Twitter saying: "Hey, I hope you're ok. Can we use this picture on our site and credit you?"

    But one thing I'd say applies across all news outlets is that a surprising amount of information management is done on a purely human level. Individual journalists have their contact books, and often when they leave an organisation, they take those contacts with them. That's because it's one thing being able to get in touch with a source, but another thing entirely to build a mutually trusting relationship.

    There's also a load of information contained in reporters' notebooks, and it's common practice to hang onto them for years in case anyone queries or disputes something you've written, or the way you've carried out your job (or in case you want to retire and write a best-selling memoir. A man can dream, right...?). The industry might like to portray itself as digital and connected and high-tech, but a huge amount of information is recorded in diaries, notepads and sticky notes affixed to monitors. It's also difficult for the Russians to hack your notebook.

  18. They don't by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 2

    They dont, it is very obvious these days that they are not as fantastic as one once thought.

  19. The outsource it all by houghi · · Score: 1

    It is easy. They outsource it all. No, not to India. They just outsource it to the companies who then send them press releases. That is about 90% of the work done
    The other 10% they copy and paste from Reuters.

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  20. Systemd? by bazorg · · Score: 1

    That's a job for systemd, right?

  21. Associated Press by SharpFang · · Score: 2

    Their editors scour the news agencies, like Associated Press for what they deem "news-worthy". These are standarized gateways, web api for importing purchased articles, which get pushed into local CMS, then manually, or half-automatically laid out. Duplicates are avoided through marking all purchases. If anything newsworthy is announced ahead of time, and the "higher ups" want something exclusive, reporters are send to provide own scoop - but great most of data comes from the agencies.

    Generally, a reporter working for a newspaper or media outlet directly is a much more rare sight than a reporter working for a news agency; news aggregated in the agencies and then distributed to news outlets.

    Source: worked at a news portal. The token reporter team existed only so that the portal would be still protected by press law, as mere "news aggregation" media can't get that around here.

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  22. Content management systems, of course by yelvington · · Score: 4, Informative

    I do this for a living, so my answer is somewhat detailed.

    Newspapers were using content management systems for this purpose beginning around 1970, before PCs. Previous to that, stories were transmitted electronically, stored on punch tape in a 6-bit format, but edited on paper and re-keyboarded as necessary.

    If you wanted to use a story as-is, without editing, you could have a copyboy go find the right punch tape and hand-carry it to the typesetting department.

    Computerizing the editing process/approval process allowed written material to be stored, edited on screens, and output directly to electronic typesetters (which were already computerized; a major use of the PDP-8 was automated hyphenation and justification). The story "files" were typically organized in "queues" or "baskets."

    The earliest CMS were bespoke, but they quickly became standardized -- "off the shelf" with potentially a great deal of customization, produced by about a dozen companies around the world that often designed and built their own hardware components.

    Electronic page layout was pioneered on these systems. One of the first was at the Minneapolis Star and Tribune; the project leader later created founded Aldus, created Pagemaker, and the desktop publishing revolution followed.

    As desktop publishing emerged, it displaced bespoke layout systems, and networked PCs displaced proprietary terminals, and SQL databases displaced proprietary storage, but the putting them together into a usable workflow system remained a specialty. In general, the CMS companies got out of the hardware business entirely and focused on software and services.

    Photos came later. Keep in mind that the JPEG standard didn't even exist until the 1990s. The first wirephoto storage-and-editing systems were big bespoke monsters that looked like something from a 1950s sci-fi serial, but they were quickly replaced by Mac-based tools, and then the core CMS systems embraced photo management.

    Broadcasting trailed all of this in many ways. TV stations actually produce fairly little information in the common sense of the word, and have lighter requirements for handling text, but huge amounts of data in the form of video. When I first worked in TV, video was shot on film, then videotape. As video became digitized and companies like Avid created digital video editors, managing the data became a requirement there as well, and a specialty.

    It's now possible to put together a text/image/video workflow system with open source tools. For a single publication, I could do it in a few days with Drupal, and if the Web is the target, it's all pretty straightforward. But the news CMS field is still dominated by specialty vendors.

    Print is still a huge driver of revenue, and that means interfacing with advertising workflow and print page layout tools. Adobe InDesign is pretty much the standard there, although I know of one or two systems that have proprietary layout. As a result, a small (and shrinking) number of specialty vendors dominate. They integrate off-the-shelf components, including open source tools and commercial software.

    Where I work, writers are using CKEditor, but it's implemented in a proprietary Web-based workflow system that publishes to multiple Drupal sites on the Web and integrates with InDesign for print. Wire service information, agency photos, etc., all come into the CMS.

    Because most of the older legacy systems are utterly print-focused, they can be extremely frustrating in a digital world. Some news companies have assemble parallel production systems for the Web, stitching together any number of off-the-shelf components, or writing proprietary code. If you use Django, you should know that it was created at a newspaper company. The Washington Post has created its own system called Arc that it is peddling to other news companies.

  23. If it's the left, just a narrative will do. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    If it follows the narrative, they keep and publish it.
    If it doesn't, they purge it to keep the narrative.

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  24. It's much easier in the US by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

    The news is so partisan that they only need to keep track of half of the facts. I find that reality doesn't fit neatly into the right / left paradigm, or Dem / Rep if you prefer, but many like to act as if this binary representation doesn't have substantial quantization error.

  25. At The AP 2000 - 2007 by Spinlock_1977 · · Score: 1

    I worked at the AP as a software engineer for seven years at HQ in Manhattan. One system I worked on for a few years was the "Desk" system, which is a set of 3 OpenVMS Alpha clusters (NY, London, Tokyo). This was the primary news collection and dissemination system known to outsiders as "The AP Wire". It accepted thousands of stories per hour from contributors, and transmitted thousands to paying clients. Clients were typically newspapers that received various "feeds" from the AP such as Business, Sports, World, etc.

    New stories are tagged (sports, business, world, etc.) upon ingestion, both by editors and an automated system that can infer what a story is about. Additionally, company names are detected and linked to their stock ticker.

    Distribution to clients is based on the tags accumulated by the story after these steps. It's pretty much automated, and has to be, given the volume of news moving through the system. The editorial user interface permitted searching and filtering, which is how folks managed the news of the day.

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  26. teamwork and specialists by swschrad · · Score: 1

    a large news organization will always have specialists, used to be they were called "something" desks in the inky cigar-littered past. the crime desk reporters covered the cops. the business desk reporters covered the business wires, ticker-tape, and wires. sports desk, you had reporters assigned to each team. and so on. Desk Editors rode herd.

    reporter's desks were a mess of folders and papers, and older information was filed in the news morgue, a wall of file cabinets. Facts On File, an annual compendium of important stories and personalities, added filler and color.

    nowdays, it's all in computers, on Nexis/Lexus, and the organization's own servers.

    your Eyewitness Local Team Leader News Source Station, various trademarks licensed but not to me, the reporters who usually work their beats save a copy on their own computer.

    Sloppy Sam who keeps no notes works off the cuff, and doesn't last long.

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  27. Re:How original to say who you are. by MatthiasF · · Score: 2

    Is this one of those middle-school moments and you are trying to say "NUH UH, YOU ARE!"? Try again. Five minutes on Briebart, Fox News, Twitter, or even Youtube shows how vile and disgusting the right has become with their support of fake news and conspiracy theories. None of you can live in reality it seems and need to try to build your own shared hallucination where the world is out to get you and all the lies, hate and violence you push for is justified.

  28. Re:Just calling out your identity politics. by MatthiasF · · Score: 2

    You spend too much time in an echo chamber with your other alt-right crazies, because you're not making any sense.