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Ask Slashdot: What Are Some Books You Wish You Had Read Earlier?

Reader joshtops writes: Hey, community. Could you folks please name some books that you wish you had read earlier -- especially because these books presumbably had an impact on your life. The books could be from any genre or year.

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  1. Back to the Future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Grays Sports Almanac 1950-2000... back in 1990

    1. Re:Back to the Future by Cryacin · · Score: 1

      Finally, the cubs win the world series!

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    2. Re:Back to the Future by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Mein Kampf. If I'd known how bad that was I'd never have joined the Illinois Nazis and ended up in this river.

  2. Dune by berchca · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shocking how much more to it than the movie/tv versions. In fact, they only serve as spoilers.

    1. Re:Dune by WDot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dune is really a series that you can start and end whenever you want. Ending after book 1 is fine, or after book 2. If you find it rewarding, you can keep going though it's quite understandable why you wouldn't.

    2. Re:Dune by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      The same thing is true of Harry Potter. I did love the movies, but years later my son and I read all of the books together. It's amazing how much more is in the books than was in the movies. There are whole storylines that were just dropped in the movies. I do understand the reasoning - making a "Completely Textually Accurate Harry Potter" movie would have made each movie 8 hours long and very boring - but the books have so much more depth to them compared to the movies.

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    3. Re:Dune by Moridineas · · Score: 2

      Extremely minor nit, but Chapterhouse: Dune was the sixth book in the Dune series, and it didn't _quite_ finish off the series.

      I've read Dune multiple times, and I read the original Dune books 2-6 once, many years ago. I don't remember a lot, but I didn't like them very much.

      Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson took things in all different directions with prequels, sequels, and whatever you call a book that comes between two sequential and previously published books in a series. They're entertaining--at least the few I read--but they're kind of like trashy pulp function compared to the classic Dune. Totally agree with you that the difference in writing ability is striking. I wouldn't bother with them.

    4. Re:Dune by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I explain The Lord of the Rings this way: walk walk walk walk walk walk fight run run walk walk walk walk run walk walk fight walk walk walk
      Chapter 2: walk walk .....

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    5. Re:Dune by clone73 · · Score: 1, Informative

      I really wish someone had made a Matrix sequel or two. It was such a great film that really would have benefited from an expanded story.

    6. Re:Dune by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I just finished reading "Second Cousins Once Removed of Dune". Quite a page turner.

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    7. Re:Dune by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      I agree about the unabridged Stranger in a Strange Land. The political power machinations of those bastards is some of the most riveting reading. If there ever was a SF crossover book for non-SF fans to read, this is it.

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    8. Re: Dune by dargaud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It depends... I read the whole series twice (or more?) and didn't like the same books each time... For instance God Emperor is quite boring for a teenager, just dialogues. Yet on second reading I found it full of fascinating philosophical insights.

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    9. Re:Dune by haruchai · · Score: 1

      Ugh! I couldn't get all the way through the series. Just... no. Just like I loved the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but couldn't get through the Silmarilion.

      Ones I wish I had read earlier:
      Some Heinlein:
      The unedited Stranger in a Strange Land
      The Number of the Beast

      Some John Norman:
      The original Gor series (not the "new" ones from the 2000's).

      Norman's Gor is crap. Alan Burt Akers (real name Kenneth Bulmer) Kregen stories are far superior

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    10. Re:Dune by mentil · · Score: 4, Informative

      whatever you call a book that comes between two sequential and previously published books in a series

      An interquel

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    11. Re:Dune by LiquidMind · · Score: 1

      Well, ACTUALLY

      give his a read. it would have been a much worthy successor...

      https://sfy.ru/?script=matrix2...

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    12. Re:Dune by Archtech · · Score: 2

      Frank Herbert wrote Dune, Dune Messiah and Children of Dune as a unit. Indeed, the last two books were finished (though not published) before the first. The other books were more or less pot-boilers - or, at most, sequels written in response to demand.

      Many readers were shocked and disappointed by the undoing of the apparently omnipotent Paul Atreides. But that was Herbert's idea all along - to undermine the idea of the supreme hero. See Tim O'Reilly's biography of Herbert for details.

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    13. Re:Dune by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Chris Columbus (aka the first two movies) were the only good ones (as far as faithful to the book). And losing the actor for Dumbledore really screwed up most of the rest - the replacement was terrible.

    14. Re: Dune by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      Interesting what you got out of it. God Emperor was my favorite of the series during my first three readings of the set. All of these were during my teenage years.

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    15. Re:Dune by cfalcon · · Score: 1

      > I prefer the term, "Pretty okay fanfiction".

      When they first announced those I was cautiously excited. Like the first (or near enough) book has a scene on Caladan- the peaceful water planet that House Atreides started out on at the beginning of Dune, where Duke Leto Atreides fights a giant water elemental. It was totally bonkers.

      Even fanfiction would have enough shame not to add that. What those two did was wholly ludicrous.

    16. Re:Dune by dpilot · · Score: 2

      My wife would agree with you, but add something about how unwashed and grubby they usually were.

      But then again, when you're trudgin' across the tundra, mile after mile, trudgin' across the tundra - with not a parish in sight, you get grubby.

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    17. Re: Dune by AntiSol · · Score: 1

      I have almost the opposite opinion, I think the books keep getting better and better. Except for Dune Messiah. I particularly love books 4-6.

      It's a pity that the cliffhanger of Chapter House was never resolved. But I guess that's better than a couple of hacks taking over and tying it into their fanfic.

    18. Re:Dune by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      Stranger in a Strange Land should have been titled, Why I think you should be a swinger too. I got through it, but did not enjoy it.

    19. Re: Dune by enrique556 · · Score: 1

      Leto II is my all time favourite fictional character. He's the definition of a truly selfless hero.

  3. Controlling my mind by fabriciom · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "The power of now" and "A new earth" by Eckhart Tolle. Very simple techniques but very hard to master.

    1. Re:Controlling my mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I too like reading watered-down eastern philosophy to make me feel #deep

    2. Re:Controlling my mind by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Curious. I'm not out to start a fight here, but recently I was reading a web site called Meaningness ( https://meaningness.com/ ) that introduced me to Eckhart Tolle by vigorously arguing with him ( https://meaningness.com/metabl... ). That's about as much as I know about the guy, though, but it discouraged me from pursuing his writings.

    3. Re: Controlling my mind by fabriciom · · Score: 1

      Just took a look at the site and it seems like a simple blog creating controversy. For example he critics how Tolle says you are God when he says "despite all the evidence to the contrary". What evidence? Who can proof God exists and it's not you and me? In the end it's just another way to live your life and free your self from your mind and it's total control over your thoughts, feelings and over all well being.

    4. Re: Controlling my mind by fabriciom · · Score: 1

      How can a person know how people will react to some believe? He might post his interpretation of things and thats about it. If you are curious and would like to know just read the book and find out. It's very simple either it works for you or it doesn't.

  4. The book I wish I had read earlier... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    The book I wish I had read earlier...

    My Diary.

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    1. Re:The book I wish I had read earlier... by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2

      Eh, I just finished your copy of it. It wasn't that interesting.

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    2. Re:The book I wish I had read earlier... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Eh, I just finished your copy of it. It wasn't that interesting.

      Did you read the part where I died. Didn't seem realistic to me.

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    3. Re:The book I wish I had read earlier... by neilo_1701D · · Score: 1

      Eh, I just finished your copy of it. It wasn't that interesting.

      Did you read the part where I died. Didn't seem realistic to me.

      The bit where you snorted coffee up your nose after reading a Slashdot comment, the chair you are on falls backwards and you crack your skull open on a GameBoy you left lying around three weeks ago and couldn't be arsed picking up? Seemed realistic to me.

    4. Re:The book I wish I had read earlier... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Well that part yeah, but the part about a girl sitting opposite me when it happened.

      That was a bit far fetched. I am a Slashdot reader after all.

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    5. Re:The book I wish I had read earlier... by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Actually, I wanted to make a crack earlier about you using a 'strong gay protagonist', but didn't want to offend. ;^)

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  5. Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Diss+Champ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen R. Covey

    By the time I'd read it I had figured most of it out, but if I'd read it earlier I could have saved some time getting there.

    1. Re:Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Along these lines, "That's Not What I Meant! How Conversational Style Makes or Breaks Relationships" By Deborah Tannen

      It is amazing how improving your ability to communicate increases your effectiveness and makes habit 5 from the 7 habits much more achievable

    2. Re:Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Executive summary:
      0. The usual stuff about why all other self-help books are crap but this one isn't.
      1. Be proactive
      blablabla
      2. Begin with the end in mind
      goal-oriented blablabla
      3. Put things first
      prioritize blabla
      4. Think win-win
      the others are your partners pretty easy, eh?
      skip two virtues, something about communicating in emphatic ways, etc. not really important, fuck it
      7. Sharpen the saw
      take a break and never stop learning, etc. blabla

      $$$ SUCCESS
        easy-peasy

    3. Re:Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      #1 habit of highly ineffective people: Don't bother understanding it, just get someone else to produce an executive summary for you.

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  6. The Bible by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Definitely The Bible. Doesn't matter which version. I was well into my 30s before I started sacrificing chickens after accidentally touching women during menstruation.

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    1. Re:The Bible by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      If you are into religious texts I suggest the Indian Vedas.
      For early mankinds Science Fiction it is not to bad :)

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    2. Re:The Bible by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Informative

      Let me suck some of the humor out of this moment with a fact check: chickens weren't part of the Jewish sacrificial system during Biblical times.

      As far as animals were concerned, sheep, goats, oxen, and bulls were regularly sacrificed, with different ones being used for different types of sacrifices. Doves were an acceptable sacrifice in some cases, though I believe they were only used when the person offering the sacrifice couldn't afford the appropriate animal.

      Also, if memory serves, touching a woman during menstruation merely made you ritually unclean until evening, at which point you'd take a bath and then be back to ritually clean again. I don't recall it requiring a sacrifice, though I've only read the Bible cover-to-cover maybe a dozen times so far, so I could be mistaken.

    3. Re:The Bible by Dread_ed · · Score: 2

      Same for me as well, with exceptions.

      The version is not relevant, as what I was looking for is manuscript evidence, the oldest and most accurate, with the least distortions.

      Next was reading from the original languages for as complete an understanding as possible: sentence diagramming, defining jargon, categorical exploration of subjects/jargon, adopting the viewpoint of the writers and readers at the time the documents were written and read.

      Last was putting away all of the preconceived notions given by believers and non-believers alike, and realizing the language in the book is merely window dressing. The events, interactions, and characteristics described in the book are merely pointers to ideas that are conveyed through all modes of written communication, ranging from blatant exposition, to counter examples and sarcasm, and ultimately to hidden meanings obscured by the reader's incredulity or inability to place themselves in the position of another human.

      I learned quite a bit about what the text of Bible really says. From that I have learned that English translations are mostly worthless, most pastors are full of shit, most Christians are not trying to find God only support for their legalistic thinking, and every single atheist I have ever met is fighting a straw man and not the Bible.

      This really reinforced the paraphrased quote: "Christianity is a wonderful religion. It is too bad no one actually practices it." More than that, it introduced me to the idea that all ancient religious documents were written to convey not the stories they contain, but the concepts behind the stories, allegorical lessons that are intimated and hinted at, which are so much more than the words themselves. If you remove your own prejudice there are many lessons to learn from the ancients on the subject of the divine.

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    4. Re:The Bible by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      So you admit to touching unclean women?

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    5. Re:The Bible by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Thank you. I made many deliberate theological errors in an attempt at absurdist humor. And also because I didn't feel like firing up Leviticus to see exactly what kind of bird needs to be sacrificed and in what fashion. Christians don't even really obey anything in the Old Testament - except when they do.

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    6. Re:The Bible by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I tried to read that and it's all squiggly.

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    7. Re:The Bible by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Probably a bad translation. I mean, the Vedas. The Bible is actually all gibberish.

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    8. Re:The Bible by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2

      most pastors are full of shit, most Christians are not trying to find God only support for their legalistic thinking, and every single atheist I have ever met is fighting a straw man and not the Bible.

      I think most atheists are not trying to fight the Bible, but rather the beliefs professed by those full-of-shit pastors and Christians you mention, who in turn hide behind the Bible to shield themselves from criticism of those beliefs. The kind of in-depth analysis of the actual text you describe is a great way to pierce that shield, and one I've frequently seen used; not quite to the impressive degree of detail you describe, but atheists knowing the Bible better than the believers that hide behind it is a common thing, at least.

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    9. Re:The Bible by kubajz · · Score: 2

      I wish I had read the Bible earlier, but it strongly discouraged in our country. Once I got to it, it profoundly changed how I think about life, how external events influence me, and throughout the years, it has had immense impact on my character, dealing with my selfishness. Without these changes, I doubt I would have finished my Ph.D., my marriage would likely not be that amazing and our business partnership would not work so well. It is a long explanation that is impractical to put in Slashdot comments but please realize that if sacrificing chickens is the biggest take away from the Bible, one may be missing something. And, just in anticipation of a likely reaction - the Bible certainly helps me clearly differentiate between what Jesus' principles are and what empty religion/legalism is.

    10. Re:The Bible by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Just 'cause I made a joke, don't take that to mean it can't be valuable to certain people. But by definition you have to pick and choose what you take from it. Some things are gold and revolutionary (e.g. turn the other cheek), and others are garbage (e.g. don't be a homo). I'm glad you found it helpful, and I have nothing against religion up until the point where it impacts me or my family. Unfortunately, in the US that is more than it should given our supposed separation of church and state.

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    11. Re:The Bible by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Suggested viewing:
      https://www.youtube.com/user/J...

      He delves deeply into the evolutionary psychology of the whole religion thing, and his new lecture series is "The Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories".

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    12. Re:The Bible by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Touching unclean women? Hell, under modern feminism, touching WOMEN is enough to get you fired.

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    13. Re:The Bible by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      ...but atheists knowing the Bible better than the believers that hide behind it is a common thing, at least.

      I meet them frequently, however many of them have a weighty axe to grind combined with a heavy chip on their shoulder. It keeps them off balance and focused on issues that I do not care to drudgingly recount and review with every interaction. I don't blame or judge them for their hyperfocus or their angst. However, what I offer and crave they are incapable of reciprocating.

      I consider the dispassionate atheist, one possessed of cool reflection and able to undertake an unbiased examination of the facts, to be among the greatest treasures I can stumble across in this world. I have met a few and have successfully held on to one of them as a close friend and confidant for years. I have no doubt that I am better for it.

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    14. Re:The Bible by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      You're assuming I'm the one doing the arguing here. I'm just relating something I frequently see other people do.

      In any case, their motives and goals are pretty clear to me, because the maximum implications are far more than "nothing whatsoever". Religious believers frequently push governmental polices and such that have real practical impact on people, which they justify on ostensibly moral grounds, based on a morality grounded in their religious beliefs, which they back up by citing the Bible. To someone opposed to those policies etc, it's thus of enormous practical use to show that the ostensibly moral grounds appealed to for support are insubstantial because the beliefs backing them are insubstantial.

      In other words, when someone is telling you what you must or mustn't do and justifying that by claiming the Tooth Fairy says so and they know that because this book says she does, it helps to show the book doesn't actually say that, isn't reliable even if it did, and there is no Tooth Fairy to begin with, never mind whether it would matter what she said to do even if she did exist.

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  7. Best books I've read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All the Adventures of a Curious Character (on Richard Feynman) by Ralph Leighton
    The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins
    Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes

  8. Consciousness Explained by kisrael · · Score: 2

    Rereading Daniel Dennett's "Conscious Explained" now... really opened my eyes to what consciousness is and isn't.

    (I reference it in my own comic on dealing with mortality, as plugged in my sig)

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    1. Re:Consciousness Explained by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I felt grateful I could read this recent New Yorker piece about the author and the issue and strike hos work off my reading list forever:

      http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/daniel-dennetts-science-of-the-soul

    2. Re:Consciousness Explained by kisrael · · Score: 1

      Yeah, why? I thought it was a pretty fair article, so thanks for that.

      And I think Dennett's more right than not. Consciousness isn't what it intuitively seems to be on the surface, it takes more introspection to get a feel for it.

      At least try "The Mind's I", a book of essays by lots of folks he co-edited with Hofstadter.

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    3. Re:Consciousness Explained by kisrael · · Score: 1

      Ah, glad I didn't come out swinging.

      I admit I'm a little pessimistic about finding definite answers. Trust those who seek the truth, doubt those who claim to have found it.

      Not sure exactly what question you're asking but....

      Like I mentioned, The Mind's I: Fantasies And Reflections On Self & Soul is a great "sampler" if you enjoy asking the questions.

      Also, Hofstadter's "I Am A Strange Loop" has one model, and presented in a particularly emotionally moving way

      Finally, "On Intelligence" by Jeff "I also made the PalmPilot" Hawkins has some very specific possible answers about some of the neuroscience of (tl;dr: it's mostly all "predict and test")

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  9. Citizen of the Galaxy by Robert Heinlein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I first encountered Heinlein's Citizen of the Galaxy in adulthood and I immediately wished someone had introduced it to me in middle school. For the purposes of this discussion, it's about a kid who keeps getting moved from one society into another. Each time he assimilates into a new group he notices the strengths and weaknesses of the new culture. Most of the coming-of-age books I was exposed to glorified the misfit and tried to reassure the reader that it's OK to be different. Citizen of the Galaxy doesn't bother with that at all---the protagonist integrates more-or-less successfully into every society he joins and he never gets angsty about not fitting in. This would have been a good thing to read when I was younger.

    1. Re:Citizen of the Galaxy by Robert Heinlein by Daetrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Another important aspect to "Citizen of the Galaxy" is the emphasis that each of those societies were different for a reason. Each of them had come up with rules, both official and unofficial, which allowed them to survive and prosper in their environment. None of them had necessarily found the _best_ solutions, but they'd found solutions that worked well enough for them. It's important to learn that context matters. You can't just ignore a rule because it seems stupid to you unless you truly understand why that rule existed in the first place, and you can't take rules that worked in one situation and blindly apply them to an entirely different situation.

      (This is perhaps something to keep in mind before reading just one or two Heinlein books and deciding based on the society of the protagonists that Heinlein was a fascist or a hippie or a communist or a libertarian or a cannibal.)

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    2. Re:Citizen of the Galaxy by Robert Heinlein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As an adult I very much enjoyed Citizen of the Galaxy for a very different reason. For me, it was a demonstration about how many different cultures are reasonable in their context and yet they all perceive reality differently. In my own young adulthood, the Robert Heinlein book that I read that opened my eyes to this idea was Time Enough For Love. The book is an effort to show a rational world which has very different taboos than my own culture, particularly about sex. It was a book that made me upset more than once thinking how "wrong" it felt. But upon reflection, I concluded that was the point, to show a culture that could exist with values that feel wrong to me but are rational.

      - JCD

  10. "Snakes in Suits" by mykepredko · · Score: 1

    Before I ended up working for a psychopath.

  11. Down and Out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Down and Out in Paris and London - George Orwell.

    While 1984 is better known, Down and Out is much more relevant especially today.

  12. The User Manual by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    RTFM. Wiser words were never acronymized.

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    1. Re:The User Manual by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      RTFM. Wiser words were never acronymized.

      Here you go:

      The Male Body: An Owner's Manual
      The Female Body: An Owner's Manual

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  13. How to Win Friends and Influence People by lq_x_pl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    by Dale Carnegie.
    Seriously.
    There's a thousand fantastic resources available on how to be a better programmer. Accruing technical acumen has always been the easiest part of navigating my career. Knowing how to work with humans has always been tricky. I wish I would have read this book back in high school.

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    1. Re:How to Win Friends and Influence People by fuzzyf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      +1
      Totally agree.

      But I've noticed that quite a few didn't notice the warnings on not to fake it. You have to work on yourself to actually BE interested in people.
      If you fake it, it will come across as weird.

    2. Re:How to Win Friends and Influence People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What Carnegie is suggesting you do is impossible. If you are really paying attention to others, you can tell the difference between someone who is genuinely interested in others and someone who acts interested in others because they know it is effective at winning friends and influencing others. There's no way to 100% obscure your selfish motive from those who are looking for it.

    3. Re:How to Win Friends and Influence People by MrLogic17 · · Score: 2

      Ditto. The title is deliberately deceptive, in a good way.

      Some of us weren't raised with social skills. This book changed by life.

  14. The Mars Trilogy - Kim Stanley Robinson by eagle52997 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm currently on Green Mars (book two) and absolutely loved Red Mars (book one). Book Three is called Blue Mars. The first books was so good, and so timely with this topic, that I felt compelled to post. I read a lof ot Arthur C. Clarke as a kid, and wish I had read this trilogy when it first came out. The topics related to life back on Earth are so prescient, it is hard to believe the first book is nearly 25 years old. I'm definitely hooked, and will be reading more of Kim Stanley Robinson in the future.

    1. Re:The Mars Trilogy - Kim Stanley Robinson by eagle52997 · · Score: 1

      The first book* was so good...

    2. Re:The Mars Trilogy - Kim Stanley Robinson by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      I read the first book about 20 years ago. It was good, but never had the chance to finish the rest.

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    3. Re:The Mars Trilogy - Kim Stanley Robinson by Sparowl · · Score: 1

      I'd recommend reading the other two. He does a good job of making the story evenly good throughout.

  15. The Illuminatus! Trilogy (not) by skids · · Score: 2

    No... don't. Everyone in our college clique who read it became fantastically unsuccessful. I only got a half way into the first book and somehow managed to salvage my life.

    I'd read the The Book of the SubGenius instead. At least then you'll know how to fail upward.

    1. Re:The Illuminatus! Trilogy (not) by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Aw, that's a shame. It's a really funny series. Now, there's not much I'd take seriously in there (other than maybe a little glee in occasionally being subversive), but I've read it repeatedly without it ruining my life.

    2. Re:The Illuminatus! Trilogy (not) by Minion+of+Eris · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the Pricipia Discordia. Hail Eris, but quietly, you don't want her paying too much attention to you.

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  16. Chainsaw owner's manual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Look up "Kickback". Turns out it's important.

    1. Re:Chainsaw owner's manual by BigT · · Score: 2

      Though you type remarkably well with your remaining limbs...

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  17. Scifi/Fantasy by TWX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Kind of wish that I'd read Ringworld earlier, didn't get to anything Niven until I was already in my 30s. It's interesting to see what all Niven did with works in other genres like in the scripts he wrote for Star Trek: The Animated Series that included characters from N-Space.

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    Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
  18. Re:The manipulated man by TWX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, if you can't experience it firsthand you can always read about it I suppose.

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    Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
  19. Atlas Shrugged by al0ha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was left with two distinct ideas after reading this book that I'd wished I'd had 20 years earlier.
    1) It's damn ok, if not mandatory, that a person feel good about making money off their talents
    2) Pure unabashed capitalism is an extreme philosophy.

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    1. Re:Atlas Shrugged by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Never understood that selection. The Fountainhead is an incredible book. It explains the basic principles incredibly well. And it does so without all the obvious stupid mistakes Rand makes in Atlas Shrugged. Shrugged was obviously written by someone with first hand experience in the problems with Communism but had no idea of how to do Capitalism correctly.

      Don't tell anyone to read Atlas Shrugged, it just makes them stupider. Point them at The Fountainhead, Ayn Rand's true masterpiece.

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    2. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Atlas Shrugged is a powerful book, I think her philosophy is flawed, but she makes a strong statement and case. Never read Fountainhead to know if it is even better.

      The main problem with Atlas Shrugged is that it needed a strong editor. Rand tends to prattle on a lot, there are parts of the book that you could just skip over 20 pages and not have missed anything important. Overall well written though.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    3. Re:Atlas Shrugged by CaptSlaq · · Score: 1

      I was left with two distinct ideas after reading this book that I'd wished I'd had 20 years earlier. 1) It's damn ok, if not mandatory, that a person feel good about making money off their talents 2) Pure unabashed capitalism is an extreme philosophy.

      Anthem by Rand as well.

    4. Re:Atlas Shrugged by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

      "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers

      Seriously, anything by Ayn Rand is the last thing a teenager should read. It's the terrible advice you could get at an impressionable age from that kid that all the adults agree you shouldn't hang out with, dressed up with big words, bound in a respectable-looking book, and coming from an "adult." It's an old man in a lab coat giving you heroin in a pharmacist's bottle.

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    5. Re:Atlas Shrugged by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Atlas Shrugged needed a lot of editing. I may be being somewhat unfair to someone writing a massive novel in their non-native language, but it has problems beyond prose which have more to do with pacing.

      However, asking someone who claims to have read the book if they actually managed to make it through the John Galt radio speech without skipping over it is a good way of determining if they're full of shit, a bit touched, or actually a lizard person in a human suit.

    6. Re:Atlas Shrugged by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      I read the Fountainhead a few years ago. It was the hardest book I ever finished reading*. Ayn Rand's writing style is comparable to hitting her readers with a sledgehammer several times, then dumping a load of bricks on their head for good measure.

      If you finished one of her novels, and are up to more more pain, it was a good story.

      *The hardest book I didn't finished reading, and the only one I quit because I just couldn't force myself to read the horrible abuse of the English language any longer than necessary, was when I did a book report in high school on Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court".

      The book report had to be on either a full book of at least 100 pages, or at least 200 pages of a longer book. I forced myself to read 200 pages, did the report, and never touched that book again. Twain had good short stories, of which I have read several. Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn are classics, and even they have a lot of ridiculous crap. But most of Twain's longer works were just gibberish wrapped as "American humor".

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    7. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bill Buckley, the father of modern US conservatism really disliked Rand's books
        Friedrich Hayek thought she was a silly woman
      As a writer she was almost unreadable
      No real economist would list her as a established economist

      She however has become the darling of conservatives like Koch brothers, whose foundations have distributed her books for free, often required reading at colleges that accept their money.

    8. Re:Atlas Shrugged by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I've found those who say don't read it because you are defective if you do to be akin to ignorant religious folk who hiss and spit if you dare to learn about another religion.

      HELLBOUND SINNER!

      Memeplexes adopt memes that hiss at you as defective for considering a position opposed to them.

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    9. Re:Atlas Shrugged by greythax · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm an Atheist who has read both (Atlas and Fountainhead). The only way I would label someone defective for reading them is if they used them for the basis of some market worship philosophy afterward. In general I found them to be something a first year college student would consider "insightful" because they have no real world experience and precious little empathy.

      They are full of one dimensional characters who's defining traits are egomania and greed, or are impossibly Mary Sue, such as Mr. Roark, who was evidently born with the perfect knowledge of every subject. The central thesis is terminally flawed by the assumption that some sort of capitalist utopia can be achieved by a collective of completely self centered sociopaths. I think in the end they say more about Mrs. Rand than any true economic or social insight.

      But I highly encourage people to read them so they can see their banality for themselves, and to arm themselves for when they get trapped in a corner by a randroid at a party.

    10. Re:Atlas Shrugged by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I picked up her "non"-fiction book, "The Virtue of Selfishness" when I was a teen, and couldn't understand why anyone would pay attention to any philosophy she backed. I read it quite a few years later, and was pleased to find that my original impression was more correct than I'd realized.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    11. Re:Atlas Shrugged by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      I recall Twain's final published story -- "Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven" as being exceedingly funny and quite insightful.

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      You can't see ANYTHING from a car, You've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk...Edward Abbey
    12. Re:Atlas Shrugged by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      I read it as a teenager and came away with two impressions

      1) I ceased thinking I was being constructive with my time by reading 1000+ paged books.

      2) Anything derivative of Ayn Rand indicated severe deficits in thinking (e.g. Libertarianism). Anyone who admired Rand's philosophy have serious personality defects.

      By reading that monstrosity, at least I was able to get a chuckle out of it when RAW lampooned it in his Illuminatus Trilogy.

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      There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, General Electric, and Exxon
    13. Re:Atlas Shrugged by earnil · · Score: 1

      Would it be possible to mention, what obvious stupid mistakes do you mean? I'd agree that from editorial point, the book is really flawed and it would require some serious trimming, but from the philosophical content, I often hear people say that but then usually it comes from some serious misunderstanding like "She says that only thing to care about is money" or that "She advocates that we shouldn't care about other people".

    14. Re:Atlas Shrugged by amalcolm · · Score: 1

      I didn't know Shania Twain wrote novels :)

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    15. Re:Atlas Shrugged by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I don't need to bash Ayn Rand to feel morally superior.

      It's been a while, but I remember a few things. I'd rather not subject myself to that again.

      First, she dismisses pretty much all Western philosophy of ethics without understanding it. She calls it "altruistic", and apparently therefore to be disregarded.

      Second, she laid out a philosophical position that seemed to lack support, big-time.

      Third, no society based strictly on her philosophy can survive. It's not possible to base a society on strong individuals dealing as equals, since we're not strong all the time and often aren't in roughly equal negotiation positions. The trivial example is that no child raised in her Republic would survive infancy, and therefore some level of altruism is necessary for survival. I don't remember if or how she addressed it, but if she special-cased it it was as an aside. An ethical stance based on no altruism except..., leaving the exceptions vague is saying nothing. Certainly it's best if strong people deal as equals, and you'll find little or nothing against that in Western philosophy, but the real questions are about the weaker people, which Rand dodges by assuming the questions are unimportant.

      Beyond that, read the thing and see for yourself. I'm not going to read it again to refresh my memory.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    16. Re:Atlas Shrugged by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      In highschool, at my very first job, the creepy old guy working a shit job who used to be a trucker gave me a copy of the fountainhead and was excited that I read it. After about 2 weeks I gave it back to him telling him I couldn't stomach it. ...But of course, I had already read the Lord of the Rings when I was 8, so I was already corrupted by all those orcs.

  20. The Naked Ape; The Selfish Gene by fgrieu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Naked Ape (a Zoologist's Study of the Human Animal), by Desmond Morris, 1967.

    The Selfish Gene, by Richard Dawkins, 1976.

    These give clues about what we are, and why.

    1. Re:The Naked Ape; The Selfish Gene by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Nice. Selfish Gene would be on my list. I'll be sure to check out Naked Ape.

      In that sciencey/origins set I'd add:
      * Before the Dawn (using genetic information to trace human development and migration)
      * Song of the Dodo (about extinction)
      * Guns, Germs, and Steel (about geography influencing civilization's development)
      * any of the Leaky or Johanssen books about Lucy, Lucy's child, etc. - as much fun for the bickering between the camps as for the developing understanding of early human/pre-human evolution

    2. Re:The Naked Ape; The Selfish Gene by tedcloak · · Score: 1

      I like The Selfish Gene very much, especially because Dawkins cites me in it. The Naked Ape, not so much.

  21. A Catcher in the Rye by netsavior · · Score: 1

    By the time I read it at age 14 I thought the main character was a whiny annoying little prick. If I had read it 1-2 years earlier it would have been profound.

    1. Re:A Catcher in the Rye by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      I quite agree. I didn't find "A Catcher in the Rye" to be unreadable, but I could never understand what was so so great about it. I suppose that we are deeply flawed individuals doomed forever to blunder through the literary darkness vainly seeking warmth and shelter..

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      You can't see ANYTHING from a car, You've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk...Edward Abbey
  22. Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell by koavf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perennially relevant to critical thinking about power. Similarly, Fahrenheit 451 and Brave New World can explain how we make ourselves slaves. Follow up with Amusing Ourselves to Death.

    1. Re:Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell by greythax · · Score: 2

      I second this. I was in my 30s before I finally read 1984 and it is like a handbook to recognizing political flim-flam.

    2. Re:Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      Geez, what backward hell hole did you come from? It was required reading in 8th grade, and I had already knocked that book off two years before then.

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      There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, General Electric, and Exxon
    3. Re:Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell by Alsn · · Score: 1

      If we're talking Orwell, I personally consider Animal Farm to be his superior work.
      "Some animals are more equal than others".

    4. Re:Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell by koavf · · Score: 1

      How so?

    5. Re:Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      And if you can't be bothered to slog through all that, Here it is in condensed form.

      (And if so, then Huxley is winning.)

    6. Re:Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell by koavf · · Score: 1

      Here. Not in Eritrea. The two aren't mutually exclusive and having a free society and an enlightened mind means fighting against both.

  23. The short list by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People

    The Four Agreements

    Meditation related literature including Buddha's Brain and Wherever You Go, There You Are

    Also "The Bible" and "The Torah", but so that I can properly address the cognitive distortions of the Christian/God-centric mindset as needed in an authoritative manner.

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    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  24. Books I Wish I'd Read Earlier by cogeek · · Score: 2

    Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand One Second After by William R. Forstchen Both equally relative with everything that's happening these days.

    1. Re:Books I Wish I'd Read Earlier by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Perhaps a grammar primer would have been more useful.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    2. Re:Books I Wish I'd Read Earlier by cogeek · · Score: 1

      I think you're confusing grammar with formatting. Easy mistake to make when one's in a rush to pass judgement.

    3. Re:Books I Wish I'd Read Earlier by ZayJay · · Score: 1

      I tried reading Rand's Atlas. I shrugged.

    4. Re:Books I Wish I'd Read Earlier by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      I think you mean punctuation. /shrug

    5. Re:Books I Wish I'd Read Earlier by cogeek · · Score: 1

      No I mean formatting. Missing a couple of line breaks.
      Should have read like this:
      Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
      One Second After by William R. Forstchen
      Both equally relative with everything that's happening these days.

    6. Re:Books I Wish I'd Read Earlier by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Formatting makes periods disappear? Don't think so, fatty.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    7. Re:Books I Wish I'd Read Earlier by cogeek · · Score: 1

      I know reading is hard for trolls, but read on down... you can do eet!

  25. The Walking Drum, Louis L'Amour by flaming+error · · Score: 1

    I actually read it at exactly the right time, maybe I was around 14-15 years old. Helped me put some things in context and get some good priorities in life, helped me get where I am now.

  26. Ulysses - James Joyce by imatter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because if I had started it 20 years ago instead of 15 I might have finished it by now.

  27. I wish I had read more philosophy as a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    but I knew even then that there was only a very narrow path to make a living at it, so I majored in Comp Sci instead...

    Critique of Pure Reason, Kant
    The World As Will And Representation, Schopenhauer
    The Logic of Scientific Discovery, Popper
    Word and Object, Quine

  28. Mere Christianity by whh3 · · Score: 1

    There are plenty of great books that I wish I had read earlier:

    1. Masterminds of Programming
    2. Infinite Jest
    3. The Sun Also Rises

    are just a few examples. However, the one that came to mind first was Mere Christianity by CS Lewis. I really tried to stay away from it because I heard so many people say that it was a great book. I didn't want to read it just out of spite.

    When I finally read it, I really enjoyed it and it helped me think through some things differently that I did not expect.

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    1. Re:Mere Christianity by j-beda · · Score: 1

      The Screwtape Letters is also very good, if you get anything out of Christian apologetia. Or should that be apologetics?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  29. Ready Player One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I didn't read that until several years after it came out, which was way too late given how much I love it.

  30. The Cat in the Hat by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Funny

    This book would have changed my world had I read it when I was four. But now that I'm 44, not so much.

    Yaz

    1. Re:The Cat in the Hat by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      This book would have changed my world had I read it when I was four. But now that I'm 44, not so much.

      Yaz

      Then you must not be part of the illuminati and understand the secret hidden message about the book and the new world order.

      --
      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    2. Re:The Cat in the Hat by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Every time I try that, I end up in handcuffs.

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  31. Ulysses by fermion · · Score: 1

    I wish I would have started to read this book when I was younger as I would have had the stamina and attention span to finish it. I think that everyone should read the little prince early as it makes less sense to an adult who reads it for the first time. I was fortunate that I read Enders game the year it was published. All his other stuff, which I have also read, is mostly spiritual crap.

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    "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
  32. Sherlock Holmes by drnb · · Score: 2

    Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes books.

    1. Re:Sherlock Holmes by ZayJay · · Score: 1

      I got hounded into reading Doyle's longest book

  33. The Go Programming Language by davecb · · Score: 1

    Preferably the day it came out, as I was using C++ at the time.

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  34. The Road Ahead by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

    There is more to read than you can but go for it anyway!

    Bill Gates' twee The Road Ahead is definitely a book that should not be on your list. That dweeb completely missed the importance of the internet.

    Suggestions
            1984
            Brave New World
            Paris in the Twentieth Century
    , by Jules Verne
            The Elements of Style
    , by Strunk & White
            The English Language | A User's Guide –
    oh so readable...
            The Art of War,
    Clavell edition
            The Concise 48 Laws of Power
            The Cogito
    (Cogito er sum my ass!)
            The Selfish Gene
            Guns, Germs, and Steel
            Distinction,
    by Bordieu
            The Feynman Lectures on Physics ,V1–3
            A People's History of the United States
            Asian American Dreams
            The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire: Abridged Edition
            The Demon-haunted World,
    by Sagan
            The Oxford English Dictionary,
    two-volume micro-text complete version as a reference
            You Can Negotiate Anything
            How to Win Friends and Influence People
            Stranger in a Strange Land
            Zen and the Art off Motorcycle Maintenance
    (at east until 2/3 through)
            The Structure of Science, by Nagel
            A Rocky & Bullwinkle coloring-book
    !

  35. Bad Science by Ben Goldacre by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bad Science should be basic requirement in all high schools. People need to understand the difference between good science and bad science. Too many people think good science is bad, and bad science is good.

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    1. Re:Bad Science by Ben Goldacre by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      Some people even think consensus is science!

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    2. Re:Bad Science by Ben Goldacre by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I presume you do your own research in all fields, and don't accept consensus optics or quantum mechanics or biochemistry or....

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  36. Contact and GEB by Volfied · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Contact by Carl Sagan
    and
    Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter

    1. Re:Contact and GEB by Volfied · · Score: 1

      I think I first read The Count of Monte Cristo in middle school. Still one of my all-time favorites. If you like gripping plot-driven historical fiction, I can't recommend Dorothy Dunnett enough. The Lymond Chronicles are the best books I've ever read.

    2. Re:Contact and GEB by Volfied · · Score: 1

      Definitely on my short list. Engaging, clever, and an excellent philosophical examination of science and the human experience.

  37. Never Split the Difference by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    https://www.amazon.com/Never-S...

      Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It

    Interesting read, and you end up with Tactical Listening skills. Changes how you view negotiation situations completely. And everything is a negotiation in life. ;)

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    Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
  38. No, I'm Not getting too old for this, but... by Donoho · · Score: 1

    The Data Warehouse Toolkit: The Definitive Guide to Dimensional Modeling

    I don't have the energy/drive to plow through tech books, absorbing their sweet, sweet knowledge I did 20 years ago.

    I'll still get there, but with significantly more breaks and annoyance at not being done already.

  39. Re:The movie was bad but... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    Are you REALLY sure LRH actually wrote any of them?

    IIRC, "Battlefield Earth" was when he was alive but "Mission Earth" came out after he died. The weird thing about "Mission Earth" was the narrative structure: the first seven volumes was written in the first person, shifts to the third person in the last three volumes, set several centuries ahead and looking back on the story. Makes me wonder if someone else wrote the remaining volumes.

  40. The Mythical Man Month by bobbied · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you are an engineer, manager or other technical career.... OR a MANAGER of anybody who falls into those categories, this should be *required* reading every few years.

    Truths I've learned from this book include...

    "If one woman can make a baby in 9 months... Then let's get 9 to make one it 1 month..." is a logical fallacy often used by management.

    "Technical teams should be clearly scoped and fairly small or the amount of effort required for communications and coordination will consume more resources than the actual work. "

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    "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    1. Re:The Mythical Man Month by netsavior · · Score: 1

      9 mothers can't make 1 baby in a month... and if you try that, in 9 months you will end up with 9 screaming babies to take care of for the rest of your life.

    2. Re:The Mythical Man Month by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Welcome to mindless Management sir! Here is an office with a door, now get that program back on schedule.. How are you going to do it?

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      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    3. Re:The Mythical Man Month by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      You just buy a baby that was prepared earlier.

  41. The classics by arth1 · · Score: 2

    Only the classics, i.e.
    TAoCP (Donald Knuth)
    GEB (Douglas Hofstadter)
    The Illuminatus! trilogy (Robert Shea & Robert A. Wilson)

  42. Taleb's Incerto series by mx+b · · Score: 1

    Taleb's 4-part Incerto series (see http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/247576/incerto-4-book-bundle-by-nassim-nicholas-taleb/9780812997699/) is fantastic reading. Changes your perspective on the nature of randomness and how much control we actually have over our system and our environment. Not just control, but how little information we even have about the situation! (it is easy to get "fooled by randomness"). Antifragile is particularly a very good concept we should follow in all of our systems; it occurs to me so often now how fragile our systems are, and many steps we take actually make it more fragile, not less.

    I believe Taleb is working on a 5th book, I am looking forward to it.

  43. Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman by SirGarlon · · Score: 2

    If I had read it before college I am certain I would have learned even more during my years there. As role models go, one can do a lot worse than Richard Feynman. :-)

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    1. Re:Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman by Quirkz · · Score: 2

      I read Surely You're Joking as a high-school junior, and loved it so much I decided to major in physics. I spent most of my college years feeling like I was continually failing to live up to Feynman's example, but not knowing how to get more out of it, because when it comes down to it, few people are as dynamic as that guy. So, you may have missed out on a better college experience, but you might have also just missed out on four years of feeling guilty and inadequate.

    2. Re:Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure, I might have just quit university much earlier if I had read that book before that.

      Because sw production in university level was and still seemingly is pretty much just made up shit that goes in cycles - which is anything but something like physics.

      I think I would have enjoyed it a lot more if it had been geared more in the same way and had more problem solving instead of learning sw development methods that were in flux - which actually were management methods more than anything else.

      As an analogy, at that time software development in university level was more like if it was about how to try to cheat the world about the mythical man month than anything else. They would cycle the methods which would magically do that every few years and they still do. Very little of it was about actual programming, programs, why someone had programmed something in a way that it was programmed into and generally just couple of professors stroking their dicks and selling books they wrote.

      Sure, the thesis might need sources - but the book you were taught from, fuck that, just a 50 euro per course per student revenue generating machine of pretty much completely made up stuff (sw is completely made up so I guess it fits so eh..) - beauty of that is that you have to buy the book to pass the exam because the book is the only place where you can find the right information to pass the exam because it exists only in the book.

      oh and on the list of books I would have rather read earlier.. even for programming, surely you're joking would be the one.

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  44. The Spirit's Book by brunoacf · · Score: 1
  45. Re:I agree for different reasons. by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

    Evidence?

    Whatever you can say about Trump - one thing he is not and has never been is a religious conservative.

    And they no this - look how poorly he did in the primaries with them. And take a look at Utah in the General.

    Look, you don't like Trump. Got it. But making up idiotic sh!t like this. Dude. It's too transparent,

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  46. SJWs Always Lie... by Phydeaux · · Score: 1

    should have been published much earlier so I could have read it 10 years ago. As a conservative working for a University, this would have helped to explain (and counter) many of the bat-sh!t crazy things that go on in public education. I've since picked up most of the book's info the hard way, but it sure would have made it easier along the way.

  47. Most Secret War by dlleigh · · Score: 1

    "Most Secret War" by R. V. Jones
    https://www.amazon.com/Most-Se...

    A story of doing vital technology on the time scales of total war. This book should be read by anyone who cares about practical innovation.

  48. How to retire rich at 25 by MountainLogic · · Score: 1

    If there is such a book

  49. The Game by Neil Strauss by g36054 · · Score: 1

    He took action and changed what he didn't like about himself.

  50. Dianetics by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dianetics. I had money before I read it.

  51. Dot bomb by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    dot.bomb: My Days and Nights at an Internet GoliathOct 15, 2001
    by J. David Kuo

    Ideally in 1995.

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  52. Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    I wish I had read this *before* I had to repair my motorcycle because it, in fact, did not help me fix it.

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    1. Re:Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      It was an awesome read, anyway.

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  53. Re:Provides More Possibilities by arth1 · · Score: 1

    An encyclopaedia would have been more useful, I think.

  54. Re:I agree for different reasons. by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2

    Whatever you can say about Trump - one thing he is not and has never been is a religious conservative.

    Exactly, if anything he is the antithesis of one; he is a real estate promoter and uses the same style as President as he did pushing real estate. Unfortunately, while it worked fine in the New York real estate world and during the election it has caused, and will continue to cause, problems for him as President.

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  55. Re:My recommendation? by GuB-42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would have loved to read it but I am a bit tied up at the moment.

  56. The Elements of Style by Strunk & White by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    The Elements of Style.

    It's not actually a book I wish I'd read early, it was a book I did read early and have been grateful for ever since!

    It's a short, clear, concise book as you would hope for from a book to help improve your writing. It has many small points that really stick with you, in my case for decades.

    For some reason the Kindle edition (linked to above) seems to be totally free at the moment so you have no excuse not to grab it! The paperback itself is fairly small if you prefer paper.

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  57. Re:The movie was bad but... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    I thought Battlefield Earth was bad enough. That cured me of wanting to read anything else by him.

    When I attended Alien Con last year, there was a L. Ron Hubbard table with his all books, someone dressed up as Psychlo alien, and a huge Styrofoam spaceship. If that wasn't crazy enough, I've overheard people talking about their alien abduction experiences and the government cover up.

    https://blog.cdreimer.com/2016/11/20/escaping-from-the-alien-con-2016/

  58. Financial books by Quirkz · · Score: 2

    What I really wish I'd read more of earlier are financial books. How to handle money, how to budget, how to eliminate debt or be much more careful about using it than the average American is, how to invest, how to plan for retirement, all of those things.

    I'm not really attached to these, but they're examples of a few reference points that made a difference to me in terms of how I thought about my finances:

    * a Dave Ramsey book (they're all kind of redundant) - for budgeting, saving, and month-to-month financial management
    * The Millionaire Next Door - some framework for understanding what habits contribute to wealth, and which ones don't
    * The Four Pillars of Investing - a lot of history and basic investing environment
    * The Intelligent Investor - a more detailed perspective on investing and history

    1. Re:Financial books by ISayWeOnlyToBePolite · · Score: 1

      +1 Benjamin Graham - The Intelligent Investor. It's a classic and I believe it should be read with that in mind, not only by people necessarily interested in investing or finance.

    2. Re:Financial books by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      I know a lot of people like that one, but it left me disappointed. It seemed more inspirational than practical, and while there were a few good insights, I also felt like there were a few suggestions that seemed kind of risky. It's been a while, so the details are fuzzy now, but it's not high on my list.

  59. Re:I agree for different reasons. by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

    whoops.

    "And they no this" should be "And they know this"

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  60. Amusing Ourselves to Death by setvik · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by the media theorist and NYU prof Neil Postman.

    Read it a week ago after letting it languish on my bookshelf since college. Really wished I had read it ages ago! I'd have a lot more books than TV series under my belt.

    Postman prophetically saw how TV would drastically reduce both our individual and our culture's collective capacity for critical thought and intelligent discourse by conditioning us to expect entertainment in every sphere of our lives (not just TV). In this important book, he sounded the alarm bell for American democracy. And his warning is even more relevant and critical today in our binge-watching, distractable, and social-media driven culture.

    Here's a snippet from Postman's own forward:

    "... What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture... As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions". In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.

    This book is about the possibility that Huxley, not Orwell, was right."

  61. Lord of the Rings by jrronimo · · Score: 2

    Perhaps I'm just a bad geek, but I've found Lord of the Rings a little challenging to finish, though it's been a while since I've tried. I find that people who read it when they were younger (or had it read to them young) have a reverence for it I just don't quite share, but I feel a little like I'm missing out.

  62. Sagan by shadowknot · · Score: 1

    "A Demon Haunted World" and "Pale Blue Dot" by Carl Sagan are two I wish I'd read in my teens or early 20's.

  63. Re:The movie was bad but... by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

    You should find "Final Blackout". I read it long ago, as well as "Battlefield Earth". It is a very good story.

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  64. Goldstine - Computer from Pascal to von Neumann by johnrpenner · · Score: 1

    The C Programming Language - Kernighan and Ritchie: http://www.cprogramming.com/bo...

    Herman Goldstine, The Computer from Pascal to von Neumann: https://muse.jhu.edu/book/2981...

  65. Theory of Knowledge Implicit in Goethe's World Con by johnrpenner · · Score: 2

    anyone that's going to dig in to Dennett's explanation of consciousness should also consider two epistemological works by rudolf steiner:

    The Philosophy of Freedom - Some results of introspective observation following the methods of Natural Science:

    http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/...

    and

    The Theory of Knowledge Implicit in Goethe's World Conception

    http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/...

  66. The Road Less Traveled by deadwill69 · · Score: 1

    Very enlightening book written by an Army Psychiatrist on human mental development.

  67. Public Opinion by Humbubba · · Score: 1

    Walter Lippmann's Public Opinion

  68. Re:Provides More Possibilities by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

    I read mine when I was 7 or 8.

    It was actually my second dictionary. My first one was a Webster Encyclopedic Dictionary from the late 1940s. It had several dozen pages in the middle of color images of plants, animals, world flags, and other things.

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  69. The Unix Programming Environment by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    If I had got my hands on that book at the very beginning of my Unix[like] career, my whole life would probably have been very different. It would have jumped me up a level in competence at a time when it would have made a seriously major difference in the way I handled an opportunity.

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  70. Aubrey/Maturin, Culture and Kovacs by enjar · · Score: 1
    I read a lot of scifi and fantasy growing up. Historical fiction was relegated to "boring". Someone encouraged me to pick up "Master and Commander", the first book in the Aubrey/Maturin series. It chronicles the journey of Jack Aubrey in the Royal Navy, along with his doctor companion Stephen Maturin. It is hands down some of the best fiction I've ever read, of any fiction genre. The characters are vibrant, and the ship actions/historical events are the result of research from the archives of the Royal Navy. The (excellent) movie "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" only scratches the surface of the world that O'Brian created.

    As mentioned before, I read a lot of scifi growing up. Some was good, some was great, some was just simply crap. I'd heard a lot about Iain Banks one way or another, but it took I while till I picked up one of his books. They are smart, challenging, thought-provoking and anything but the normal scifi grind. I'm particular fond of Use of Weapons, The Player of Games and Excession. There's been only one book in the series that really didn't work for me (Matter).

    On a similar note, I'd heard about Altered Carbon (by Richard K Morgan) and Takeshi Kovacs for a really long time before I picked them up. Like Banks, he's challenging but he also throws a lot of atmosphere in, and the trilogy is a work of noir mastery. Also some of the tightest writing I've ever read. Morgan can describe scenes in the absolute minimum amount of words required, as to not bog down your enjoyment of the world. The first two are also fantastic in audiobook form, then they changed narrators for the third one and ruined it.

    1. Re:Aubrey/Maturin, Culture and Kovacs by Zocalo · · Score: 1

      Assuming that you are not going to get upset over a number of non-straight sex scenes, graphic violence, and some quite disturbing imagery, then Morgan's Ringil Eskiath books (Steel Remains, Cold Commands, Dark Defiles) contain an absolutely masterful mind-fuck over just where and when the books are set that plays out over the three books, taking it from traditional fantasy and firmly into SciFi. It's not specifically stated though, and occurs over several stages, so you'll need to be paying attention as you go from "generic fantasy world" to... somewhere else (and when).

      His other works, "Black Man" (I think it's called "Thirteen" in the US) is an excellent cautionary tale on genetic enhancement and "Market Forces", a dystopian near-future look at Thatcher-style capitalism taken to extremes, are both worth a read as well. Don't expect particularly happy endings in any of them though...

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  71. Re:Theory of Knowledge Implicit in Goethe's World by kisrael · · Score: 1

    Cool, thanks for the pointers.

    I know Robert O. Doyle's son, Robert has written some survey stuff looking over the problem of free will, like what does that mean in a universe that's seemingly pretty damn deterministic...

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  72. Friedrich Hayek: The Road to Serfdom by jlar · · Score: 1

    Friedrich Hayek: The Road to Serfdom. Reading this book earlier would have enabled me to understand some of the developments in the World much better. The most recent example being the miserable fate of Venezuela.

  73. Tolkien's "The Hobbit" by jimtheowl · · Score: 1

    I read the Lord of the Ring triology skipping the Hobbit.

    When I came upon it much later in life, it seemed that I had somewhat lost interest in imaginary topics.
    I don't mean it as a critic for those who still do, and even feel slightly envious, but I get the same feeling when I try to play golf.
    Even though I should be enjoying myself, I have a constant nagging feeling that there are real things to learn and much to be done.

  74. Re:Genealogy of Morals by Nietzsche by computational+super · · Score: 1

    d'oh!

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  75. Feersum Endjinn by angstel · · Score: 1

    by |@in M. B@nks::Sm@|| n0v3|, Gr3aT |it3r@tur3

  76. Your Erroneous Zones - Wayne W. Dyer by n2hightech · · Score: 1

    This book helped me learn to control my own emotions. The most important thing I learned was that how I responded to any situation was completely under my control. You can choose to be angry or not. This helped me learn to deal with others more effectively and be happier. The sooner people learn that they are in control of their emotions and a situation or event does not force you to feel one way or another it sets you free.

  77. Free books from the UNIX founders by emil · · Score: 2

    A quick google of "The UNIX Programming Environment PDF" shows several available sources. Archive.org has a few other titles.

    The AWK Programming Language

    The C Programming Language - First Edition (useful for old systems, HP-UX bundled K&R compiler), Second Edition.

    Practice of Web Programming (audio), also CBC Spark

    DMR final web page mirror

    The UNIX Time-Sharing System (C Programming Language alternate text)

    1. Re:Free books from the UNIX founders by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Well, to be fair, my first Unixlike was Xenix-286 on a 6Mhz example with 1MB RAM... Not the first I used, but the first I used at home. And I was fifteen, and poorly educated, but beneficially located in scruz. Talk about nerd-privileged.

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  78. Limits To Growth (~1974] by H2OPhalz · · Score: 1

    What now appears intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer, was once dismissed as fiction or viewed as easily address by advancing technology. But the point was always not to worry or be overly concerned; there will always be solutions - either because we took action or because we didn't. We are free to implement solutions or let nature implement them for us. But either way, the problem gets solved.

  79. "The List" Re-post by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

    Suggestions
                    1984
                    Brave New World
                    Paris in the Twentieth Century, by Jules Verne
                    The Elements of Style, by Strunk & White
                    The English Language | A User's Guide – oh so readable...
                    The Art of War, Clavell edition
                    The Concise 48 Laws of Power
                    The Cogito (Cogito er sum my ass!)
                    The Selfish Gene
                    Guns, Germs, and Steel
                    Distinction, by Bordieu
                    The Feynman Lectures on Physics ,V1–3
                    A People's History of the United States
                    Asian American Dreams
                    The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire: Abridged Edition
                    The Demon-haunted World, by Sagan
                    The Oxford English Dictionary, two-volume micro-text complete version as a reference
                    You Can Negotiate Anything
                    How to Win Friends and Influence People
                    Stranger in a Strange Land
                    Zen and the Art off Motorcycle Maintenance (at east until 2/3 through)
                    The Structure of Science, by Nagel
                    A Rocky & Bullwinkle coloring-book!

  80. Knuth's TAOCP by mark-t · · Score: 1

    [nt]

  81. Towing Jehova - James Morrow by Holi · · Score: 1

    I would have just liked to enjoy it as a teenager.

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  82. Starting Strength by bazorg · · Score: 1

    Starting Strength, by Mark Rippetoe.

    Covers the essentials of strength training which has improved my health and well being considerably.

    1. Re:Starting Strength by Philotomy · · Score: 1

      This. Wish I would've read this around 14 or 15.

  83. Life changing by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Dune: Health & Safety Inspectors.
    Accountants of Gor.

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  84. Slaughterhouse Five by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut

  85. Re:Your connection is not secure by kisrael · · Score: 1

    THanks :-D

    Confusingly I grabbed both the regular and misspelled version. SoYour and SoYoure - I think the person helping with LetsEncrypt got tripped up

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  86. Re:The movie was bad but... by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

    I thought Battlefield Earth was bad enough. That cured me of wanting to read anything else by him.

    Try some of his stuff from the '40s, before he did the Dianetics and Scientology thing. Good pulp adventure.

    Most of the Mission Earth series were published after his death, which, of course, doesn't mean that he couldn't have written them. My bet is that he outlined the stories and someone else actually wrote them.

    Word from people who knew him was that he typed exceptionally quickly, and he wrote as fast as he typed-- he was not the kind of writer who stares at the wall for fifteen minutes and then writes one sentence. I don't see any reason to think he didn't write them-- seems consistent with his style. (The suggestion earlier that he wrote the first seven books but somebody else completed the last three after his death is interesting, though-- I hadn't heard that suggested before.)

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  87. 1984 by segwonk · · Score: 2

    The book that has by far influenced me the most is George Orwell's 1984. I read it when I was a teenager (~15'ish), though I don't think I would have appreciated it more if I had read it earlier. It's pretty dark, and its adult themes would have been harder to grok.

    I'm in my mid-forties now, and it has influenced and informed my opposition to a surveillance state ever since. I remember thinking how awful it was that Winston would go out into the forest with his lover, thinking he was alone -- but they were STILL able to record him out there. As others have said, 1984 was supposed to be a cautionary tale, not an instruction manual.

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  88. I reject your premise. Good book is never too late by shanen · · Score: 1

    The question is kind of interesting, but I think it's a loaded question like "Has Donald Trump stopped beating his wives yet?" or "Does the general strike against #PresidentTweety start on Thursday or is that just people calling in sick to watch the Comey testimony?" (See the latest Borowitz column at the New Yorker. http://www.newyorker.com/humor...)

    Anyway, any excuse to write about books, eh? Just now reading an interesting book called Influence about how the compliance professions (mostly in sales and marketing) manipulate people. Rather surprised I've never heard of this guy before, though I've read a lot of related material in psychology.

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  89. The Qur'an by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For a long time I believed that "religion of peace" shit.

  90. Re:Atlas Shrugged off his jacket by shanen · · Score: 1

    If I ever had a mod point I'd give that an insightful, not a funny. The "flamebait" mods much have come from the insane Libertarian contingent. (I've yet to meet a Libertarian who actually understood much about freedom. Most of them are confusing it with one of the senses of "free beer", as in being so drunk as to act completely "freely" at other people's expense.)

    Really disappointed to see the lack of funny book recommendations. Not surprised, however. This is today's Slashdot, after all. Talk about a target-rich environment.

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  91. Robert Trivers by epine · · Score: 1

    Robert Trivers' original papers, or any decent rehash thereof.

    Trivers proposed the theories of reciprocal altruism (1971), parental investment (1972), facultative sex ratio determination (1973), and parent–offspring conflict (1974).

    He has also contributed by explaining self-deception as an adaptive evolutionary strategy (first described in 1976) and discussing intragenomic conflict.

    I really didn't know Trivers' work until edge.org starting featuring these ideas in the early 2000s.

    Instead I slogged through my teenage years reading Roots (icch), Airport (icch), Mere Christianity (icch), Your Erroneous Zones (icch), The Arms of Krupp (painful, but worth the effort), and The Sovereign State (of ITT) (even more painful, but also worth the effort).

    I was a sampler of all things.

    As such, it looks like I managed to read nearly every non-fiction work mentioned on this young thread either A) by the age of 23, B) shortly after first publication.

    The one exception being Ayn Rand, a permanent no-fly zone.

    Big Sister Is Watching You — 1957

    Since a great many of us dislike much that Miss Rand dislikes, quite as heartily as she does, many incline to take her at her word. It is the more persuasive, in some quarters, because the author deals wholly in the blackest blacks and the whitest whites. In this fiction everything, everybody, is either all good or all bad, without any of those intermediate shades which, in life, complicate reality and perplex the eye that seeks to probe it truly. This kind of simplifying pattern, of course, gives charm to most primitive story known as: The War between the Children of Light and the Children of Darkness. In modern dress, it is a class war. Both sides to it are caricatures.

    My second vote goes to Wikipedia. Yes, I mean this seriously.

    Since elementary school, I was no stranger to the Encyclopedia Britannica, its many gaps forming the permanent, eroding skyline of my bedroom bookshelves. Every month or so, I'd have 20 gaps and 3 volumes standing, so I'd gather them up off every available surface, shelve them in order, and start again.

    Then a miracle happened in 2005.

    For the last decade, I've been randomly looking things up in Wikipedia, that I would have liked to have looked up long before, only it wasn't immediate, organized, and convenient.

    Just yesterday I started randomly looking up all the cartoons I grew up with, and a few more recent ones:

    * xkcd — 2005
    * Calvin and Hobbes — 1995
    * Dilbert — 1989
    * Bloom County — 1980
    * The Far Side — 1980
    * Doonesbury — 1970
    * The Family Circus — 1960
    * B.C. (comic strip) — 1958
    * Dennis the Menace (U.S. comics) — 1951
    * Peanuts — 1950
    * Blondie (comic strip) — 1930

    Doesn't that shine a different light on ye olde Dagwood sandwich?

    According to Blondie scripter Dean Young, his father, Chic Young, began drawing the huge sandwiches in the comic strip during 1936.

    Where else would one go to systematically back-fill these (perhaps) inconsequential gaps?

  92. SCO Xenix by emil · · Score: 1

    I actually traveled the country for Deere & Co., installing SCO Xenix running on 286s in dealerships. Most(/all) of the development was done in RM COBOL.

    The hardware was made by Texas Instruments, and the motherboard was in three sections attached by ribbon cables. TI later dumped x86 Xenix and moved to a 68000/nubus (Mac clone?) running their own port of SysV.

    I really don't miss any of those machines. HP bought TI's UNIX line and shot it in the head.

  93. The True Believer by Eric Hoffer by StatureOfLiberty · · Score: 1
    The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements
    by Eric Hoffer

    I read this in a history class in college. Things happening in the world today make me think of it often.

  94. The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    by Thomas S. Kuhn

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  95. Gormenghast by OtisSnerd · · Score: 1

    I wish I'd read Mervyn Peak's Gormenghast books decades ago, rather than after seeing the BBC TV series first. I like the first two books enough to reread them every couple of years. Peak's use of language is just amazing.

  96. Re: A Song of Ice and Fire by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    Specifically books 6 and 7.

    Also wish I'd played Half Life 3 sooner.

    I heard that Chuck Norris has done all of those things. And he has heard the third and fourth movements of Schubert's 8th Symphony.

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  97. Iceberg Slim: The Lost Interviews With The Pimp by modi123 · · Score: 1

    "Iceberg Slim: The Lost Interviews With The Pimp" by Ian Whitaker

    Maybe I would have been in a better career.

  98. Early James Michener by AF_Cheddar_Head · · Score: 1

    Tales of the South Pacific
    The Fires of Spring
    Return to Paradise
    The Bridges at Toko-Ri
    Sayonara
    And maybe Hawaii

    He was writing about something he really cared about and had editors that were not afraid to cut his words down. These books show how prejudice can be subtle and creep into human interactions without anyone really being aware of it.

    1. Re:Early James Michener by vtel57 · · Score: 1

      Basically anything by Michener is outstanding. I loved Texas, Hawaii, Centennial, and many others.

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  99. The Secret, The Moses Code by printwithstyle · · Score: 1

    Both books had a significant impact on my quality of life.

  100. It is not so much about having read the books... by phlawed · · Score: 1

    ... as understanding and practising what they teach....

    How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen R. Covey
    Thinking, fast and slow -Daniel Kahnemann
    The Culture Map - Erin Meyer

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  101. Some SF books by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    There's a lot of excellent suggestions already, but here are a couple i haven't seen yet:

    "Rainbows End" by Vernor Vinge. A 2006 book imagining a future of autonomous cars, wearable computers, mass-digitization of knowledge, augmented reality, gig economies, and mass surveillance to combat rampant acts of terrorism. I know it's not the job of SF to actually predict the future, but it's a bit eerie how many things he included that are on the verge of happening now.

    "Voyage From Yesteryear" by James P Hogan. Uses the concept of post-scarcity to enable an entertaining socialist/libertarian utopia set on Humanity's first off-world colony, and the ideological conflict that occurs when Earth makes contact again. If you're a libertarian or socialist it's an entertaining escapist fantasy, and if you're not it's interesting to pick apart the problems with implementing such a system in the real world. (This is from before the author was attacked by brain-eaters and went a bit loony.)

    The Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold. A space opera series that spans an entire generation in a believable way. The first book, "Shards of Honor" was a little rough and the last couple were clearly written under pressure from her publisher, but the two dozen or so novels and short stories in between feature some brilliant writing and (mostly) subtle humor to go with the battles, adventure, espionage, and mysteries. It also includes occasional speculation about the societal impact of "uterine replicators" and other advanced medical technology.

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  102. Re:Mein Kampf by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    I did. Don't bother. It's sort of stream of consciousness, and it's Hitler's consciousness. One interesting thing was how he could go from something actually insightful (Hitler wasn't dumb, although he sure wasn't a good writer) into a moral abyss so easily.

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    "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  103. The Aubrey-Maturin Novels by Patrick O'Brian by Patricius · · Score: 1

    Literate, historically accurate, complex and well-defined characters, humorous, and the detail transports you to the British Navy circa 1800. Even better, there are 21 of them, comprising one long novel, with the first 6 just great storytelling. Maturin is a doctor: medical research, natural history, naval custom, intelligence gathering, and repressed love for one of the better female characters of the time. Aubrey, starts as Master and Commander, and through courage and seamanship, advances up the chain of command. If you don't like the first ten pages of Book One, Master and Commander, you should stop and come back to it in a few years. You absorb unwritten lessons on friendship, leadership, character, decision-making, and observation as an aide to judgement. I read them 6 times and found something new at each reading.

  104. Sartre's "Being and Nothingness" by some+old+guy · · Score: 1

    I never made it past Kierkegaard in college. Existential nihilism can set you free.

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    Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
  105. Two Books I wish I would have read by Jastiv · · Score: 1
    1) C Primer Plus by MItchell Waite, Stephen Prata and Donald Martin - this book helped my really learn C, something I wanted to do for a long time, but I it never really clicked with me till I read that primer, then the other books I had made a lot more sense. The time when I should have read it is probably at 13 or 14 when I first got interested in programming.

    2.) Second Acts by Stephen M. Pollan and Mark Levine - I should have read it a long time ago, preferably in college or maybe a few months after I graduated would have been the best time to read it.

  106. Books that helped me understand Amerca better by polgair · · Score: 1

    James Baldwin: Notes of a Native Son, Nobody knows my name

    James Salter: A sport and a pass time. Also 'American Express' if you like short stories.

    Phil Klay: Redeployment

    David Halberstam: Fifties, followed by The Best and the Brightest and The Children

    Irwin Shaw: Young Lions

  107. Dale Carnegie books by myid · · Score: 1

    Two books, both by Dale Carnegie:

    How to Win Friends and Influence People - I would have avoided a lot of useless arguments if I'd read it sooner.

    How to Stop Worrying and Start Living - It helped me get through a very rough patch of my life.

  108. The bible by tezbobobo · · Score: 1

    Seriously. Please feel free to interpret this in light of your own beliefs to avoid arguments.

  109. Answering the New Atheism by tezbobobo · · Score: 1

    https://www.amazon.com/Answeri...

    Regardless of your religious views, this is an excellent (and readable) example of seasoned academics taking a poor writer to task. The God Delusion was very popular, but incredibly poorly thought out and written.

  110. The 4 hour work week by Zaelath · · Score: 1

    Be an asshole to employees in a poor country.

  111. Whatever Happened To Penny Candy? by Philotomy · · Score: 1

    Whatever Happened to Penny Candy? (Richard Mayberry) Economics in One Lesson (Henry Hazlitt) The Law (Frederic Bastiat)

  112. Europe through the Back Door by saccade.com · · Score: 1

    I wish I'd read Rick Steve's Europe Through the Back Door back in college. Not just a listing of destination sights, it also shares a lot of insight on how to travel, and how to get the most out of the experience.

  113. First and Last Men and Starmakers by losfromla · · Score: 1

    By Olaf Stapledon. I think it was originally written in Russian. It is sci-fi, political, sociological treatise that spans aeons. The pace is mind-bending, crawling during the current era then picks up and starts taking huge time leaps but pauses to visit certain epochs. I believe it is an epic pair of books and should be on any proper nerd's "Yeah! Of course I've read that" list.

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    Only I can judge you.
  114. General Chemistry - Linus Pauling by tapia · · Score: 1

    In college, I was into math and physics. Though I enjoyed chemistry in high school, my freshman chemistry book just sucked the fun out of chemistry.

    Fast forward about 20 years. I've read "Caveman Chemistry" and "The Joy of Chemistry" as well as "Cooking for Geeks". All of these really brought fun back into chemistry. Recently, I got around to reading "General Chemistry" by LInus Pauling. My reaction was: "Wow, if I'd read this book in college, I might have taken physical chemistry".

  115. Thinking, Fast and Slow by brausch · · Score: 1

    Excellent book.

    Also, Guns Germs and Steel is very good.

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    "Almost every wise saying has an opposite one, no less wise, to balance it." - George Santayana
  116. Dog Whistle Politics by PJ6 · · Score: 1

    Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial AppealsHave Reinvented Racism and Wrecked the Middle Class

    I didn't understand politics at all or think that racism was still a thing until I read this.

  117. Green Eggs and Ham. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I will not eat Green Eggs and Ham, Sam I am.

  118. The "classics" by stabiesoft · · Score: 1

    I read literally hundreds of them in my 20's. They made me realize the problems, thoughts, corssroads in my life had happened to others and worse. I wish I had started in college, but then time was too precious then. Books can be some of the most intimate glimpses into another mind.

  119. Leadership and Self Deception by Tora · · Score: 2

    Leadership and Self Deception is an amazing book. If you want something for the tech industry: Activator http://amzn.to/2qYDoT1

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    tora
  120. Curious Omissions by vtcodger · · Score: 1

    Many excellent suggestions: But I think it's curious that neither Candide nor Alice in Wonderland are cited.

    Three others worth looking at if one has somehow missed them. ."One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn ."Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values" -- Robert M. Pirsig

      . "In Retrospect" -- Robert McNamara. McNamara seems almost unique among decision makers not in having made terrible decisions, but in admitting it and trying to provide some thoughts on what can be learned from his mistakes).

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    You can't see ANYTHING from a car, You've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk...Edward Abbey
  121. Books for everyone to read . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I would recommend (in no particular order):
    Brave new world - Aldous Huxley.
    Nineteen Eighty Four - George Orwell.
    Animal Farm- George Orwell.

    I think all should be prerequisites for people who want to vote.

  122. Slavery by Another Name by swillden · · Score: 1

    I wish I'd read "Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II" by Douglas Blackmon many years ago. Of course, it was only published in 2009, so that wasn't really possible, but still. The book has some flaws -- I wish it included a little more data, rather than focusing primarily on anecdotal evidence -- and I don't agree with all of Blackmon's conclusions, but I found it incredibly eye-opening. I had absolutely no idea that blacks were so heavily and so hypocritically oppressed in the post-reconstruction era. I mean, I knew about Jim Crow and "separate but equal", etc., but it went so far beyond that, to outright slavery and worse, torture and murder of a degree that wasn't seen during real, open slavery. This book has done more than anything to help me understand the perspective of modern black Americans, especially in the deep south. Not that the same crap is still going on, but you don't live through generations of that without becoming deeply skeptical of the establishment.

    Highly recommended. Especially if you often find yourself baffled, confused or outraged by events like Ferguson, etc.

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  123. Re: I agree for different reasons. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    it's not just USA... do you have any, ANY idea how much some buddhist monks are making bank selling spells, lottery tips and such? I mean _literally_ selling lottery numbers looked from pieces of wood or whatever. blessing motorcycles, houses, whatever.

    everywhere where you find people really, really believing that they can buy lucky/happy you will find some people taking their money - in some countries it is more than others. in finland not so much though there are some christian sects and movements which .. well, often fail after some scandal or another and money is most of the time involved.

    compare Finland to Thailand though and Thailand is on whole another level - you see, some countries still believe there are these people who know more about "unknown" than they do.. they believe in magic in some way or another and paying for holy spirit is just the same.

    and rich is relative. in context of south east asia having 3 cars, two of which are relatively new(yes,2006 is relatively new) is rich. in context of southeast asia 7k is stinkin rich middle class living (doesn't touch the small upper class rich people grades of course).

    7k dollars would get over 10 unversity graduates in Thailand, or 20 7-11 clerks, as to give some context.

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    world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
  124. Only Forward by lowkeyknight · · Score: 1

    Only Forward by Michael Marshall Smith. Read it, laugh, be freaked out, realise you are not alone in your stranger thoughts. Oh, and everything by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett ever. Because it's never too soon.

  125. Eckart Tolle's two main books by apol · · Score: 1

    The two most valuable books I have read in my life: Eckhart Tolle's "The Power of Now" and "New Earth".

    In my case -- and many people I have met share the same view -- these books have shown the path to escape from every kind of emotional suffering. Even when it is small, such emotional "noise" disturbs our capacity to enjoy life, to work well, to be a good friend or a good relative, finally to be happy.

    In the "The power of now" I specially like the chapter about relationships and the last one, about surrender. "New Earth" is perhaps even better, with a clear and strong exposure of the "egoic mind" and the "pain body", his words for two traps we tend to fall into. But I recommend to read the "The Power of Now" first.

    Rationalism-leaning people like me often reject anything which is named "spirituality". But these people are often those who need the most to escape from unconscious mental traps. Eckart Tolle was an academic, he is clear and precise. In my opinion he offers the best presentation of this kind of wisdom for a rational person.

    I think I would have refused to read these books when I was 20 years old (precisely for being an disdainful rationalist). Eckhart Tolle says there is the right moment in your life to be open to what he tells. This changes from one person to another. But what is certain is that if you endure any kind of suffering, the early you read, the best.

    Note that although there are a lot of easily accessible videos from Eckart Tolle, I don't think they are not a good substitute for the books. These videos are mainly useful when you have already read at least the first book. Especially if you are not used to read about spirituality the videos won't suffice to make you understand that this dimension is important for your life (they will not be persuasive enough to break your skeptical barrier).

  126. Microserfs by Althenar · · Score: 1

    By Douglas Coupland. This one I actually did read as a teenager, and it pretty much defined the next 20 years of my life. From style of writing, through choice of career, my fascination with LEGOs, all the way to how I now manage my teams at work.

  127. "How to Lie With Statistics" by Doghouse13 · · Score: 1

    (Darrell Huff).

    Essential reading for anyone who values critical thinking; ought to be required school reading at age 12 or so.

    During WWII, the US Army engaged a magician and ex-cardsharp, John Scarne, to educate the farm-boys being drafted on the many ways of cheating in crooked games of "chance", and how to spot them. This is something akin to the civilian equivalent: an utterly readable look at the ways that raw numbers can be misused or presented by someone with an agenda, whilst not actually (or deliberately) lying. Arguably more relevant today than ever.

  128. Pretty much anything by Kurt Vonnegut by turp182 · · Score: 1

    Fun to read, great style.

    Science fiction combined with commentary on society and people combined with sarcastic comedy.

    I found his works around the age of 35.

    So it goes.

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    BlameBillCosby.com
    1. Re:Pretty much anything by Kurt Vonnegut by vtel57 · · Score: 1

      I'll wholeheartedly second this suggestion. Vonnegutt has been a fav of mine for over 40 years.

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      Nocturnal Slacker
  129. The First and Last Freedom by happyfeet2000 · · Score: 1

    By Jiddu Krishnamurti. Really opens your mind about who we are, and "why we are". Closest I've seen to a logic explanation of buddhist teachings.

  130. Re:I agree for different reasons. by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    Depends what you mean by "religious conservative".

    What he is is a Presbyterian follower of Dr. Vincent Peale, of "Power of Positive Thinking" theology, an early version of the Health & Wealth gospel narrative in which the pastor is healthy and wealthy and claims that YOU CAN BE TOO if you just send him all your spare change every week.

    Obligatory ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMKeFnlZ-s0

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    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  131. Re: I agree for different reasons. by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    $7k/month is more than I make after 20 years as a Software Engineer. That's pretty wealthy.

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    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  132. Memoirs of US Grant by painandgreed · · Score: 1

    Actually, I wish I had read the Memoirs of US Grant back in high school. His account of the Mexican-AMerican war, reasons for it, creation of Texas, how it related to the Civil War, the chronological account of Civil War itself through his campaigns, and the reasons for it are all put forward in nice straight forward language and easy to understand form that I think would have been a lot more help than the standard texts. Sure it skips most of the Eastern stuff but actually puts history into perspective with reasons rather than just a lot or random dates to be memorized.

  133. Re:The manipulated man by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    To be exact, it's immediately after somebody mentioned 50 shades of grey. Still an immense coincidence though

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    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  134. "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn by hoover · · Score: 1

    Not just "Ishmael", but especially "The Story of B" and "My Ishmael" fundamentally changed the way I view our culture. It's been one of the few books in my life that has answered more questions than it raises; fascinating stuff.

    Check out the author's website at

    http://www.ishmael.org/

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    Ever wondered whats wrong with the world? http://www.ishmael.org/
  135. Make it stick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Also--

    Make it Stick by Peter Brown : the best habits for getting the most out of your education. Every high school freshman should be required to read this book, and re-read it when entering college. Every teacher and policy maker involved in education should read it too.

    The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg : How our choices and habits can be reinforced and manipulated by ourselves and by others.

  136. Old Man Wars by John Scalzi by FrozenFrog · · Score: 1

    Was looking for some good SciFi to read and a buddy recommended the "Old Man Wars" series (6 books) by John Scalzi. Just finishing book 5 now, I highly recommend the series to any SciFi fans. FF

  137. Re:I agree for different reasons. by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

    Well. your mileage my vary but I don't consider Vincent Peale to be a social conservative.

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    Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
  138. Books I Should Have Read in High School by vtel57 · · Score: 1

    Here's a link to a blog posting I made awhile back listing some of the great books that I was assigned in high school, but never read then (except for the Cliff's Notes versions). I've since read and loved them all.

    https://noctslackv2.wordpress....

    Regards,

    ~Eric

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  139. How To Read a Book by ShamblerBishop · · Score: 1

    My girlfriend is currently reading this - wish I'd read it years ago, would have saved me loads of time looking at all those pages of meaningless gibberish.

  140. Re:How to get rich... by soc_cost_priv_gains · · Score: 1

    Rule #2: Always take credit when things go right Rule #3 Always find a scapegoat to blame when things go wrong.

  141. Re: I agree for different reasons. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Must not be any good at it.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  142. Re:The movie was bad but... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Seriously? The movie was better, if only because it only cost you about two hours.

    The book was mind bogglingly awful. Everything wrong with the movie (except parhaps throwing dirt at the cameras for 'special defects') was first wrong with the book.

    I don't say much nice about clams. But they were very true to the book when they made BE. Aweful.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  143. Never believe a girlz by von+Stalhein · · Score: 1

    LOTR. I resisted the recommendation from a girlfriend in the '80s. When I did finally take it up in the early 90's I've read it at least once a year since. A teacher once defined "literature" as something that you got something from every time you read it. Yep.

  144. Re:I agree for different reasons. by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    He isn't- but he is a *religious conservative*, very different thing

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    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  145. How Stuff Works by NewYork · · Score: 1

    How Stuff Works

  146. A couple of recommendations by chud67 · · Score: 1
    On the importance of saving:
    The Richest Man in Babylon by George S. Clason

    On how to beat addiction:
    Rational Recovery by Jack Trimpey (or just visit rational.org)