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Pepe Is Banned From the Apple App Store (vice.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: The rarest pepe is one found on the iOS App Store, and now we know why: Apple has categorized the meme frog as "objectionable content" and has rejected an app called Pepe Scream, Motherboard confirmed. "Your app contains images and references of Pepe the Frog, which are considered objectionable content," an Apple App Review Board employee named Nicole wrote in a rejection notice to Spirit Realm Games, the developer of Pepe Scream. "It would be appropriate to remove the references and revise the images in your app." MrSnrhms, a developer for Spirit Realm Games, gave Motherboard temporary access to the team's iOS developer account, which showed that Apple did indeed reject the app because it contains Pepe, a cartoon frog that has been increasingly associated with the alt-right. Also read: Pepe the Frog Is Dead.
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One way to think of this would be a new form of Denial of Service attack. Just take any icon you want, and create a fake hate group that idolizes it, and start reporting that icon to various organizations to have all content with that icon removed.
It's a cartoon frog, for chrissake. Did the app portray Pepe engaging in a sinful sex act or sumpthin? Jeezus.
Except Pepe the Frog wasn't adopted by racist sacks of shit.
4Chan tricked the media into thinking that was the case. Just like they tricked them into thinking the "OK" hand gesture was a symbol for white power.
Every instance on social media you see of Pepe the Frog or the "OK" hand gesture being used for such purposes is a farce. The media bought it whole hog, with zero investigation, zero confirmation, and zero thinking.
I first read this as peepee banned. I thought that was odd considering the popularity of the doodoo emoji.
How could he even go to the Apple App Store?
Yep, they also convinced a few members of the media that creatine fueled elliot rogers' murder spree.. basically 4chan is a bit like the onion, entertaining but don't even for a second take it seriously.
If you want to see change, do this to Mickey Mouse ASAP.
I have seen that happen with my country's flag.
No, really. I have literally seen people argue NOT to use the flag in a logo because it's heavily used by a political party considered far right/nationalist. So ... the most obvious symbol of a country should not be used in the logo for that country's branch of a global group. Because OMG RAYCYSTS!
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I started at 38k. Unless you are in Seattle, Silicon Valley, or NYC you aren't going to get remotely 80k starting.
The OK symbol false flag failed because people quickly realised where it was coming for. Pepe was identified as an alt-right symbol because well established members of that movement adopted him.
Anyway, what does it matter where it comes from? Racists use Pepe regularly, they adopted him as use him to spread their messages. Doesn't matter who made the memes, the message and effect is the same.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
You can get Pepe Scream on Google Play. I guess Google's not worried about offending snowflakes.
Citations:
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2... http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/2...
It's not like this is new.
Most racial slurs start out as the way to refer to a racial group without invoking the curent slurs, but then the fact that the primary reason to need to refer to a racial group is to stereotype them they inevitably become slurs because the majority of the time people need to use them is when communicating something racist.
Same thing with "bad words: in general. What's offensive is the sentiment being expressed, not the word used to express it, so using a word that sin't in the banned list juts makes that word incrementally more "bad" as people catch on that you really mean to express the offensive sentiment.
Whereas conservative values concerning things like the sanctity of one's personal property and the benefits of strong copyright seemingly evaporate the moment that someone appropriates Pepe for conservative lulz.
Did Matt Furie author the app, or license it to the app? I doubt it, because Pepe is dead.
And I am a private citizen and can decide whether I approve of their censorship and buy their crap or whether I decide to not honor their politics and abstain.
Yes, that is actually a choice you have.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
And mostly likely a sexist-bigoted-racist hiding behind your own extreme puritan ignorance.
Tim will keep you safe. No one will hurt your feelings here.
"But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."
Of course they can. And we can mock them at every opportunity for doing so.
"But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."
It's all well and good until something you think isn't hate speech becomes Apple hate speech.
Or the altcoin you like to use suddenly becomes "against the terms of service". Then so much for your phone investment.
Really, Apple is so filthy rich and they keep getting richer by selling average people a bland comfort bubble, that they should just offer to buy back phones from people who complain about the apps they pull. It would be a trivial slice of their userbase and they could resell the phones as refurbs anyway.
I do think they are doing security right, but I can't even consider using an Apple phone, because I can't have one that may have features I depend on be taken away retroactively. So far, Android is a safe choice for predictability, even if the security is kind of iffy for the non-diligent user.
My God, it's Full of Source!
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Yeah and when racist sacks of shit that don't bother with 4Chan see it reported and start doing it not ironically but rather with intent... well, at that point it is a symbol of racist shitbags
Point to some examples of this happening, please. Also quantify them - establish that they were numerous and pervasive, not incidental, and thus justified considering the image to be "a symbol of racist shitbags".
Even the creator of pepe has disavowed his own creation because its been co-opted.
Who the fuck cares what the creator does or says? You're still begging the question. You're claiming it was "co-opted" but have failed to show that it was in fact used by actual racists for racist purposes and have failed to show that any such usage rose to a level that would turn it into a symbol of hate.
It's a shitty looking cartoon frog. The only thing it's a symbol of is weak, shitty memes.
I read the headline as "Pope Is Banned from From the Apple App Store."
Ah yes the "Ha ha you idiot I was only pretending to be retarded" defense.
'Alt-right' are _not_ generally racists. You start from bullshit, you end at bullshit.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Racists use letters too. Letters must be racist.
As the ADL says "The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted. "
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
So, $group isn't oppressed, because $oppressor oppresses all equally?
Where have I heard this before?
... And then was actually used by alt-right in racist memes. The problem with satire is when the crazy people start to take it seriously
And I am a private citizen and can decide whether I approve of their censorship and buy their crap or whether I decide to not honor their politics and abstain.
Nah, you should get government to force Apple to serve you a Pepe app the same way they forced that bakery to serve a gay wedding cake.
I'm not saying which position is correct on either of those issues. I'm just saying people should be consistent across both of them.
Either a business can refuse to sell both those things to anyone or everyone as they please, or the government can compel a business to sell those things if/when somebody asks for them.
Censorship is unacceptable.
You are a sign of racism. I have taken your name and used it to post racist comments all over the Internet. Please delete your Slashdot account immediately as it is a sign of alt-right hate.
shut up n1gger
You, um... by any chance, happen to live in Central Europe, during the 1930's while a certain chancellor with a mustache held office?
Yeah yeah. Groups other than Nazis use swastikas, but most people aren't dumb enough to think that means swastikas aren't strongly associated with the Third Reich.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Yeah like when Obama said he would give us change and we actually took it seriously!
On the one hand, it's all a 4chan con, Pepe isn't really loved by the alt-right... But when the author kills him off, we are gonna go ape-shit and he can't be killed because he's ours now!
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Ban the symbol all you want, it won't change the core values it stands for. I can rename hate to love but in the end of the day people arnt going to start loving each other because of it. People exist in the world with contrary opinions than your own and they always will. I'd rather be able to identify those groups I disagree with so I could better effect change within them.
If you want to see change, do this to Mickey Mouse ASAP.
Change is about all you will have left to your name if you were to try it. Disney has a bit more money and a slightly larger legal team than the creator of Pepe the Frog.
What if it was associated with the far-left? Would that be banned too, and who decides how far to any side of the political spectrum is inappropriate? Nicole the petty dictator/censor with no last name?
Make Pepe gay. Apple will be struggling internally and won't be able to decide if it should be banned or accepted.
#DeleteFacebook
It's not "White Power" it's "White Pride" and you have to do it with the right hand, so the person looking at it sees the WP.
OK
I hope Apple doesn't find out about this!
Did he bother trademarking it?
He owns specific drawings of Pepe, other people can draw frogs and name them Pepe.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
"give us change"
What do you expect, a penny for your thoughts??
Except Pepe the Frog wasn't adopted by racist sacks of shit.
You didn't even have to look hard to see plenty of asshole Trump supporters sporting the frog emoji (implied to be Pepe) in their username. This shit might've spawned from the filthy bowels of 4Chan as a joke, but Dogecoin started as a joke too and as of right now has a $384,751,531 market cap. Once people start taking a joke seriously, it ceases to be a joke.
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DRM is like antifreeze, to the MPAA/RIAA it's sweet, to the consumers it's poison.
4chan is for plebs, the real Pepe Nazis and Kekistani nationalists are on 8chan.
Shit Trump getting elected was just one giant /pol/ trollfest. Even /pol/ cant believe that Trump got elected.
Each time this Pepe shit comes up I have no idea what it is, so I look it up and it turns out to be something extremely stupid and/or boring. Who knows why this shy keeps coming up in the news if it's so forgettable. Well here I go again I guess.
I have seen that happen with my country's flag.
Apparently muslims don't like the Saudi flag on soccer balls:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sou...
Well, I live there NOW, actually, which is why you'll see me comment a lot on the state of internet connectivity in Germany, but I'm referring to my birth country, Denmark. Which incidentally has one of the oldest (if not the oldest, period) flags in the world.
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Alt-right is not racist, get a clue.
The KKK probably mostly votes Republican, but most Republicans are not members of the KKK. Same with the alt-right.
The alt-right, in simplest terms, says: multiculturalism doesn't actually work. Mixing cultures leads to conflict. Furthermore they believe specifically that Western culture is threatened by multiculturalism, because too many migrants from non-western cultures are being accepted, and failing to integrate.
There's nothing particularly racist about that. There may well be something racist in the progressive position that everyone except westerners should strive to preserve their culture.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
"But Apple is a private company and can cens^H^H^H^H do what they want herp derp."
They can do whatever they want until market forces convince them otherwise. You can bitch, whine, moan and complain about their app store polices, their glued-together fabrication process, and their locked-down mobile OS, but as long as the masses keep lining up to buy their new shinies every year - Apple doesn't care.
Let's also be realistic here: How many people are actually going to miss this shitty little "racist" cartoon frog game? You can't even find a really good quality copy of Song of the South on public torrent trackers, and that's something which is relatively well known (Disney even has a damn water ride based on it!), and not even really all that racist.
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DRM is like antifreeze, to the MPAA/RIAA it's sweet, to the consumers it's poison.
Actually the latest white power symbol is a white image of an apple with a bite taken out of it, which symbolizes the superior white race being chosen by God to cleanse the earth after Adam and Eve took a bite of the poisoned apple in the garden of Eden.
Proud neuron in the Slashdot hivemind since 2002.
Actually, if you google "mickey mouse nazi" or similar, you pretty much see... well, more or less what you'd expect to see: tons of mickey mouse in SS uniforms and the like. In fact, if you compare "mickey mouse nazi" to "pepe nazi", you get almost the same amount of hits (at least, I do, YMMV). Because that's how the Internet works. However, it's not politically convenient for anyone to try associating Mickey Mouse with fascism, so no one cares.
"None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." --John Milton
This was too easy, we should choose some symbols and icons that are more known and loved by more people. So that we can make them piss all over them of their own choosing, simply because we say they should.
Im voting for Jesus and Mohamad, let the games begin!
Apple is a private company and can do what they want
But Fox News can't, remember.
Proud neuron in the Slashdot hivemind since 2002.
4chan also trolled themselves into becoming racist sacks of shit.
1. "hue hue it's so funny to say such fucked up shit kek"
2. "hue hue it's a big part of my identity to be the dude who don't even care about saying such fucked up shit kek"
3. "hue hue i have spent literally thousands of hours this year posting such fucked up shit kek kek kek"
4. "hue hue i've alienated everyone i know in real life and all my friends are internet strangers who all like to do little else but post such fucked up shit kekekekekek"
5. "now i'm on /pol/"
Don't forget milk. Milk is a sign of alt-right nazi misogynist homophobic racist fat shaming Islamophobic presence in the drinker.
Isn't there an oven somewhere you belong in?
Lets be honest tho... the only reason that shopkeeper had to make a wedding cake for someone when they didnt want to.. is because the last thing that actually happens when the left plays identity politics... is liberty.
Remember when the Liberals cared about Liberty?
"His name was James Damore."
The KKK was a function and part of the Democrats. As late as the 1970's. The transfer of the KKK to the "republicans" was a slight of hand magician's trick by the Media and the Democrats. The greatest hate group in America continues to be the Democrat Party, they just haven't gotten around to banning themselves.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
This is what racist apologists actually believe.
Queue a bunch of assholes that think sophistry is the spark that makes them special snowflakes in defence of the indefensible.
There's no excuse for associating the Swastika with the Third Reich instead of bringing back the positive connotation of Hinduism, Buddhism, Shinto, all others, after you have learned better about its history and etymology.
Associating a symbol for negatives is pretty much the mindset of racism (associating blacks pervasively for negative acts from their collective's members), with equal effect of a lowered IQ among society.
The only thing we got out of this discussion is that you think like a racist with the same flawed logic.
This needs to change.
If Apple we're selling a superior product, the market would ensure the iPhone's demise or decline. That the iPhone is popular is not because it is a "bland comfort bubble;" it's because no competitor can offer something significantly better. IMO, as a privacy- and security-conscious consumer who still wants a relatively non-cumbersome user experience, there is precisely zero competition to the iPhone. But, sure, I'm just an average dude who wants a comfort bubble. My crazy ass hears that all the time in real life.
"Apple IPhones, the official phone of the KKK."
If you believed what a politician promised you just because he was the corporate shill wearing your team's letter, you deserve your remorse.
Are you seriously claiming Richard Spencer is not "alt-right"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rh1dhur4aI
Sounds like the only person "out-of-touch" is you
Wow, interesting. In those cultures, touching something with your foot is kind of like shitting on it. Posting as AC so my family doesn't get chopped up by machetes.
Around here, a penny is all most thoughts are worth.
You know you're racist, right?
I'm a pretty big fan of mathematics. I am pretty fan of the scientific method, as well.
You can Google the tests. You can take the tests. I'm willing to bet that the tests will confirm you're racist. The vast majority of us are. I forget the exact numbers but pretty much every human on the planet is racist. You don't even have to take the test in a controlled environment. You can even try to cheat, because it takes into account variations in response time.
Pretty much every person is racist. You might go so far as to suggest it is an inherent trait.
Do try to not read into my comment more than I have written.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Oh, thank you finally! I read 4chan (bad habit) and have seen thousands of Pepes. The reference is 100% always about feelings, laziness or drugs. I see a lot of racist posts but had never seen a Pepe racist post. So I really wondered where all of this came from...
There's one problem with this storyline: 4channers are still responsible for their words and actions. "I'm kidding/trolling" is a possible explanation for your *motiviation*, but it doesn't remove your responsibility for your words.
Can't shake the devil's hand and say you were only kidding.
like the sanctity of one's personal property and the benefits of strong copyright
You do realize you just contradicted yourself? Either you hold actual property dear, or believe in imaginary one. Putting restrictions on what I can do on hardware I supposedly own deprives me of a good part of that possession's value.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
You know, for being a site full of "smart" people. there sure are a lot of people with either no brains or their head so far up their ass you cant tell the difference.
Jokes on you Anonymous Coward, people have been trashing your name for years!
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Heh... Those men made of straw were pretty easy to defeat.
Well, unless you threaded your comment in the wrong spot.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Black 'white power manchildren'?
Asian 'white power manchildren'?
Mexican 'white power manchildren'?
All you've got is worn out overused insults.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Why bother bradley? If you say any of those things about multiculturalism, immigration or preserving Western culture, you're going to be called a "racist" anyway. And who gives a shit? It's just a word.
People crying "Racism!" are only trying to shut you up and divert the argument. Don't even waste your time with them. As soon as you start arguing about who is & isn't "racist" or why certain ideas might or might not be "racism", you're playing their game. Rather than discussing ideas, you're suddenly on the defensive trying to explain why those ideas are not "racist". Screw that. You have a right to your opinions, and if someone else wants to call it "Racism!" so be it. Just accept the label and it loses its power.
Sorry, Archangel Michael, but your nostalgic dive into history neglects to mention that today is...2017, long past the days of yore you fondly remember and nope, it was nothing to do with the Media, it was Goldwater and Reagan, who decided that courting the Strom Thurmonds of the world was the thing to do. They chose to blow their dogwhistles, and the puppies came in a hurry. Pissing on the floor is exactly what you should have expected from them.
It's a strange thing, your devotion to the party that would spit on Lincoln if he gave a speech today, it's like you really want to embrace the deepest levels of hypocrisy.
Oh wait, no, you ARE a modern-day Republican. That IS what you want in your heart.
Deep, so deep in it, you can't even own up to your love for all things rotten and despicable about the party you adore.
so anybody that supports trump is a racist?
Nobody is that old and still breathing.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
It's not associated with the "alt-right", it's associated with Nazis.
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This viewpoint is similar to the Christian "Everyone has sinned" baloney. It's there to establish a feeling of guilt. It serves no positive purpose in society.
So all you're asserting here is "You're racist. Go take the (unnamed) test and find out. You'll see."
I assume you wanted to say something with a little more substance than that.
> it was Goldwater and Reagan, who decided that courting the Strom Thurmonds of the world
Oh puhlease, give me a break. And next you're going to tell me that Hillary Clinton swapping spit with Robert Byrd in the front of cameras was all a figment of my imagination....
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The Harvard AIT test is a good example. Go take it and, again, I did advise you not read more into what I said than I had written. I realize that's difficult for some folks, but try to hold yourself to a higher standard - if you can.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Don't hate, rehabilitate.
You clearly haven't thought this through. What will you do with the alt-right (or whatever group is unpopular at the moment) co-opt other stuff? WIll you ban all of those new hate symbols as well? What if some group makes Sponge Bob memes, or peace symbol memes, rainbow flag memes (this is already a thing), etc into hateful memes? Would you be in favor of banning all that stuff too?
Do try to not read into my comment more than I have written.
Thats not hard because you haven't said much of anything that actually adds to the conversation.
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
I haven't seen much moaning about Apple in the comments for this story. Nothing surprising in Apple floating with every moral panic, or rumor of a moral panic.It's the product they sell, and apparently people like it. Fair enough.
The annoying bit is that one story in the Daily Beast, based on sources that were channers and (naturally) trolled the reporter about Pepe being an alt-right symbol, was all it took for people to believe that nonsense. (The bit where the Hillary campaign called Pepe a hate symbol quoted directly from the Daily Beast story). Astonishing how little critical thinking ability, how little willingness to do 2 minutes of research, people have.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
> You don't have a right to be on every platform. You don't have a right to force Apple to publish your speech.
Tell that to the bakers forced by the government to bake for LGBT whatevers.
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I thought it said Pope. Anyhow, Tim Cook is behind this. Along with the secret HOMOPOD project to turn kids queer.
That is correct. My comment is only on the usage of the term "racist." It's not even remotely important.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
You know you could view it like that: Some people developed all these trolling skills starting 2004 on 4chan or even before then on slashdot and nntp, and now they are just having some fun with all the noobs that think they know how the internet works. Look at the news, everything you can read there is ridiculously grotesque and funny, it's like a fully armed army soldier saying "Step aside, serious business!" to a cute kitten passing by in front of him.
I'm convinced though, meme magic will eventually make people realize that they are taking some things just a little bit too seriously. And if it doesn't, well at least we had a good laugh.
What about Richard Spencer who was wearing a pin of Pepe when he got famously punched in the face on camera? Just a conincidence im sure.
What about the tons of pepe meme I find on alt right facebook groups?
Are we just arguing that these people aren't racist shitbags.
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
Copyright is sufficient. Trademarks deal with how you identify yourself as a commercial entity. The concept of derivative works is protected under copyright law. And copyright is automatic.
That would be over paying!
You can draw pepe's on your hardware all you want. Copyright law says that unlicensed derivative works can't be _sold_ unless they fall within fair-use, and this doesn't.
Pepe is a pretty generic frog. Green, two eyes, four limbs. If another frog is a violation of copyright, then Pepe is as well, he wasn't first.
You can draw a mouse named mickey under copyright law, but you'll get killed by trademarks.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
One is a public accommodation refusing service in a discriminatory manor based on sexual orientation. The other is a storefront refusing to participate in marketing an unlicensed derivative work. They are not the same.
Posting as AC so my family doesn't get chopped up by machetes.
Wait, who gave the Amish machetes? Damned violent fundamentalist Christians!
The problem is that enough people now believe that Pepe is now a symbol of white supremacists, that it might as well be. Hell, even the original creator of Pepe believes it to the point where he gave up on the character.
Lets face it... Pepe is now a symbol of hate. Whether it originated as a prank or not is irrelevant.
The swastika was a good luck symbol before the Nazis used it. Now you can get arrested in some parts of the world if you use it anywhere.
And now Pepe is receiving the same treatment. It's unfortunate, but there it is.
No you can't, that's hate speech! Raaaaah!!! Burn all the frogs! I hate frogs now!
It's a wonderfully circular set of definitions.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
What if some group makes Sponge Bob memes, or peace symbol memes, rainbow flag memes (this is already a thing), etc into hateful memes
All of those images are very well known across the culture. Pepe the Frog wasn't -- I'd say he has far far more exposure as a hate symbol than from the original usage, sad to say.
This viewpoint is similar to the Christian "Everyone has sinned" baloney. It's there to establish a feeling of guilt. It serves no positive purpose in society.
I wouldn't say it serves NO positive purpose. It's supposed to burst the bubble of unearned pride (re: arrogance) one can get. Unfortunately, many have taken that and turned it into false humility.
,'Alt-right' are _not_ generally racists
Then why do they associate themselves with Richard Spencer's Alt-Right designation? He is absolutely a racist shitbag, and he he created the label. Why associate with that nonsense if it's not what you believe?
People exist in the world with contrary opinions than your own and they always will.
We are supremely confident in the correctness of our beliefs. That's why it's necessary to disenfranchise, silence/censor, and/or kill those who disagree with us. The ends justify the means.
The alt-right, in simplest terms, says: multiculturalism doesn't actually work. Mixing cultures leads to conflict. Furthermore they believe specifically that Western culture is threatened by multiculturalism, because too many migrants from non-western cultures are being accepted, and failing to integrate.
"We're not racist, we just don't believe in mixing of the races. But instead of wearing white hoods and outright calling ourselves white nationalists, by God, we're going to be a little fancy about it!"
The KKK was a function and part of the Democrats. As late as the 1970's. The transfer of the KKK to the "republicans" was a slight of hand magician's trick by the Media and the Democrats
The transfer of the KKK to the Republicans was a result of the Republican "Southern Strategy" to strip political support from the Democrats in the South.
Google "pepe the frog swastika"
so anybody that supports trump is a racist?
Not automatically racist, but It's a fair assumption to start with.
The group grew because their opposition were a bunch of neo-Stalinists using violence.
So now anybody who opposes violent commie children is an automatic 'racist'...racist blacks, mexicans, gays etc.
You can't be willing to kick the shit out of a few actual fascists without being labeled 'alt-right'.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Did he bother trademarking it?
He owns specific drawings of Pepe, other people can draw frogs and name them Pepe.
Even if he trademarked it, what's he going to do? These aren't major companies going out appropriating Pepe the Frog, it's many individuals. He could sue one dude, but so what? He'll be out a lot of money and there 499,999 other dudes in line to be sued. Trademark has to be defended, and if you can't defend it, people can still run roughshod over it. His 'pepe the frog is dead' thing was an admission that there's really nothing he can do about, so he's washing his hands of his involvement.
You may suppress our ethnic Kekistani heritage, but we will triumph in the end.
And his most beloved Pepe will rise again!
Live for Kek.
Die for Kek.
Meme for Kek!
Being against multiculturalism is not about race, it's about being against mixing different cultures and different ways of life within the same society. Multiculturalism leads to communitarianism, even if people are of the same race, and communitarianism leads to the destruction of social cohesion, which leads to hatred and violence. Multiculturalism is extremely destructive to societies.
And no, someone's race does not define his culture or his religion. Associating a culture to a specific race is racism. For example, anyone who thinks "cultural appropriation" is a thing, is someone who is profoundly racist.
Oh puhlease, give me a break.
From what? Reality? I'm pretty sure you're already there. Can you see Archangel Michael from where you sit in your cubicle? (Assuming he's not in the mirror) If so, then you have broken from reality. No thanks necessary, you did it yourself.
Make sure to pick up your daily nickel for dancing like a puppet.
And next you're going to tell me that Hillary Clinton swapping spit with Robert Byrd in the front of cameras was all a figment of my imagination....
Yeah, that's a pet favorite of Archangel Michael's too. He swoons over that, but never dares to mention Strom Thurmond, or if we're going to stick with the living, Richard Shelby, Rick Perry, or Kim Davis.
And that's before you embraced the birther-in-chief. How much time have you spent with your lips firmly adhered to his glistening buttocks?
Yeah, I've seen this making the rounds on some of the less savory 'extremist' sites. Men's Right's activists, usually with a neo-right, religious bent. Trump supporters, of course. The apple with the bite symbolizes the original sin, women's weakness, that caused the fall. Crazy stuff.
Culture is not a racial attribute. Racist to think it is.
The crazy people taking it seriously aren't the ones making and sharing the "racist memes".
Sure man, you're just purporting an inability to handle people of a different culture is somehow meaningfully distinct from racism in a way that doesn't raise flags of intolerance on your own part.
What actually leads to sectarian hatred and violence is that very same intolerance, and it has demonstrated throughout history the destructive societies it creates, whether in the Mid-East, Europe, the Americas, Eastern Asia, Africa, Australia, or the Pacific.
You don't want to deal with that though.
Of course, the fact that people do associate race with certain qualities and characteristics, including ones that are merely cultural, is yet another problem you try to avoid.
You'd much rather just declare other people to be "racist" as part of your own vacuous argument.
The transfer of the KKK to the Republicans was a result of the Republican "Southern Strategy" to strip political support from the Democrats in the South.
Which of course really explains why democrats continue to push segregation, and identity politicos are core party values right?
Om, nomnomnom...
AKA you're showing the world you're actual a bigot, and they're all laughing at you.
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That's how you justify it. It's just barely reasonable enough on the surface that you can continue to be proud of your own support of rights violations while condemning the very similar actions of the 'enemy'.
What about Richard Spencer who was wearing a pin of Pepe when he got famously punched in the face on camera? Just a conincidence im sure.
He can wear whatever he wants. But if you want to use that line of reasoning, liberals and progressives are being very well represented by the events at evergreen college and the riots at Berkeley.
What about the tons of pepe meme I find on alt right facebook groups?
You mean besides the people that use them in order to piss you off so you become a foaming mouth breather who's batshit insane? Seems to be working.
Are we just arguing that these people aren't racist shitbags?
They're not, they're trolling you. And it's why Trump is going to win a second term, the left have done more in the last 6mo drive people fro the left to center and center-right then anything else could have. I personally can't wait to see where it ends up. But considering the left already broke down into violence? I'm guessing that'll be their next attempt again.
Are we just arguing that these people aren't racist shitbags.
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Don't worry. I'm sure you can tell us now why Laci Green is a gender traitor and why she needs to be purged from the annal of feminist literature.
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There are quite a few openly racist Disney cartoons from the 40s too. Those can be conveniently ignored until it's politically convenient, just like the 1924 Democratic Convention.
There are days where browsing at -1 and reading the weird gay porn comments is the best thing to do on Slashdot. Some of those underground gay porn writers are pretty good.
lucm, indeed.
Remember when the Liberals cared about Liberty?
You mean when they were fighting the Republicans and trying to start a new country so they could keep their slaves?
lucm, indeed.
Not interesting, Kekistan is not a country you neckbeard basement dwelling incel motherfucker.
As evidenced by pro-trump rallies, you can't even be in the alt right unless you're a racist. The hazing going on is unreal, some groups going as far as sodomizing each other to prove they aren't gay. There's no expectation to be made at those "freedom of speech" rallies where all they do is help the police arrest protesters.
YHBT. YHL. HAND.
You mean the guy that had disavowed the Klan and apologized for his membership... 30 odd years before that picture?
Are the alt-right crowd foreveralone too?
> Except Pepe the Frog wasn't adopted by racist sacks of shit.
You are correct, BLM never liked Pepe.
>DF kan godt lide Dannebrog
>venstreorienterede: uuuh, nationalisme er farligt, flag=racisme
Jeg hader Enhedslisten og de andre tosser.
Personally, I think it was a wrong decision to force any private company to do something like that. What they should enforce is priests perform gay weddings. If you take government money, you agree to do government's bidding.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Are you genuinely trying to say that anti-fascist groups came after alt-right before people understood them to be fascists?
Your chronology is fucked.
Pop stars have tweeted Pepe. That you weren't exposed to it doesn't mean it wasn't "well known across the culture".
Who is the final authority on what qualifies? You say "enough people", but it seems a HUGE number of people isn't enough since the millions of people across the world who see the hammer & sickle as a symbol of hate have yet had their feelings acknowledged. Does it require something else? Perhaps those millions don't have the correct political alignment... maybe that's it.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
Except the the social cancer types also went full cringe with it. Autism Frog has become the new Guy Fawkes mask.
lol I can never make it more than a few lines into those and it feels like my brain is melting. so I skip over and look for the stupidity(dont have to look too far) which is probably the main reason I return to the site. I love a good laugh.
What about Richard Spencer who was wearing a pin of Pepe when he got famously punched in the face on camera? Just a conincidence im sure.
He was also wearing a Hugo Boss suit. Hugo Boss is now a symbol of white supremacy!
What about the tons of pepe meme I find on alt right facebook groups?
Don't forget the Facebook logo on those pages. OMG Facebook is a symbol of white supremacy!
If you haven't noticed - that's the LEFT at the moment. They're trying to get days where whites can't turn up to universities.
Righties nowadays don't care what colour you are, as long as you don't explode and kill some civilians.
Yes, identity politics are core party values for Republicans. They're pretty desperate when it comes to creating their identity as "tough, strong, and TRUE AMERICANS" with a side of fiscal responsibility and being the only rational logical people around. It's part of their portrayal.
Of course, they have a whiny bunch of shits who can't even stand to be honest for five minutes, a tendency to thuggery, and severe problems with their racial gerrymandering, but hey, let's not forget who despises the cities, who tries to make out that winning lots of counties (sometimes by tiny margins) is somehow a sign of a landslide, who tries to write a healthcare bill in secret, and who find illegal voters in their own houses.
Sorry, Mashiki, you're just another pathetic lying right-winger yourself. It is the way of things.
Yeah since you've never heard of a thing that's a good enough reason to ban it. Let's play along those lines. What will you do when I want to ban something you like because some mean people are using it. If I've never heard about it I hope you'll be OK with banning that too. You'd better show your virtue by giving it up so I don't have to be offended. Otherwise you'd be a racist fascist nazi bigot wouldn't you?
The fascist 'anti-fascist' groups started rioting after the election. Only fools don't understand them to be fascists.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
You mean his comment challenged your political convictions and triggered you? Poor snowflake...
Pepe is actually a tranny-chaser which falls under the rainbow flag umbrella.
that's because /pol thinks they are extra clever. In reality they're quite typical - it should have been obvious that trump would win - like the cowboy presiden't, black president etc.
Funny, people used to say such things about the Irish, and the Chinese, and probably every other immigrant group that ever came to the US. This one time, we even rounded up all the Japanese immigrants and put them into camps.
People with different cultures get along just fine if they actually try. The problem is that we have one group of nutters who doesn't want to try, and another group of nutters uses that as an excuse not to try. Both groups have the same mindset: you are different, therefore your existence is wrong. The progressive position is that we should try to get along, try to understand each other, and mutually grow and adapt, and that one group of nutters doesn't define an entire people. It just looks like oppression to you because you are in one of those groups and desperately want the world to justify your obvious intolerance.
Misread this as "Pope is banned from the Apple App Store." Seemed a bit odd.
Sig expected Real Soon Now.
No those were Democrats, not Liberals.
"His name was James Damore."
Why does there need to be a "final authority"? The anti-defamation league has declared it a hate symbol. Apple has now blocked it as inappropriate. There are plenty of more examples that can be found with a simple google search. To me, that means enough people believe it that that belief is causing a tangible impact in the world.
If you're expecting me to give an explicit quantity that defines "enough", you're missing my point and I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish.
"Enough" people believe that vaccines cause autism or a full of toxins or whatever bullshit, to be causing localized epidemics of diseases that had been effectively eradicated. Why don't you ask a parent whose child became encephalitic by measles, how many anti-vaxxers are "enough"?
Yeah since you've never heard of a thing that's a good enough reason to ban it. Let's play along those lines. What will you do when I want to ban something you like because some mean people are using it. If I've never heard about it I hope you'll be OK with banning that too. You'd better show your virtue by giving it up so I don't have to be offended. Otherwise you'd be a racist fascist nazi bigot wouldn't you?
I'm not arguing to ban it. I've never said to ban anything like this, but I suppose Apple can do what they want with their private service.
I'm just saying that the symbol's been ruined for its original context.
When you happen to be accepting of most white cultures, but non-white cultures, well that's multiculturalism, and that's bad. How convenient. No, of course that's not RACIST, it's just against cultures that can't possibly exist together.
It's racist when you say that white and non-white cultures can't exist in harmony together, but you know, it's FANCY racism, gussied up a little more than the Klan was willing to do it.